RIP Tim Salter and Denis Jones. Is This What You Wanted Iain Duncan Smith?

Iain-Duncan-Smith415Ever since this Government weren’t elected the question has been raised whether Iain Duncan Smith really is a murderous tyrant, or whether he’s just a fucking idiot.

The truth is that it doesn’t really matter anymore.  The end result of his policies will be the same whichever is the case.  A result as tragic as it was predictable, as poverty not seen in generations returns to the UK.

The recent case of Tim Salter, who committed suicide after benefits were stopped due to the brutal Atos assessment regime, is far from the first death directly linked to welfare  reforms.  At the end of last month two suicides linked to Atos assessments were reported in just one week. Also reported just before Christmas was the death of Denis Jones, a disabled former soldier who died alone five weeks after his benefits were stopped.  Whilst his death was recorded as natural causes a close friends has revealed the horrific circumstances he had been living in, telling the Bolton News that:

“He was dependent upon income support and without it he couldn’t heat his home or pay his electricity bill. He became dependent on food parcels and the generosity of friends but he was crushed under the pressure of it all.”

It is not just the growing number of deaths linked to welfare reforms which gives a glimpse of the terrifying future many of the poorest now face.  The use of foodbanks has rocketed over recent months, even prompting a parliamentary debate from the ever opportunistic Labour Party.  But all of the main political parties, and the Lib Dems, are committed to the demolition of social security, they are merely quibbling about the details.   This is why the largest cause of hunger in the UK – benefit sanctions which can leave people with no money at all for up to three years – have barely been mentioned by any politician.  The reason for this is that Labour are every bit as committed to benefit sanctions as Iain Duncan Smith.  They started it after all.  Things will not magically and suddenly be alright if the Labour Party manage to win the next election.

The appalling truth is that the entire political class seems to have started believing everything they read in the Daily Mail.  The lurid tales of benefit scroungers have been assumed to be a fair representation of the social security system instead of the warped delusions of the swivel-eyed right.

The impression has been given that welfare in the UK is so generous that vicious cuts can be made without anyone getting hurt.  Politicians and right wing newspapers alike have created the fabrications that claimants are living in the lap of luxury, sick or disabled people are probably faking it and that there is a plentiful supply of jobs and cheap housing for those who choose to look.  The reality – which is that those dependent on benefits were already living in desperate poverty even before the cuts – has been completely ignored in the savage chase to blame the poor for the economic crisis created by the rich.

Over the next year, as bungled welfare reforms take place in the most casual and haphazard manner possible, we are set to see the outcome of this manufactured contempt for the poor – and it really has only just begun.  Many people are dependent on discretionary housing payments to meet the shortfall in their income due to the benefit cap or bedroom tax.  These payments will run out soon.  The number of benefit claims sanctioned is likely to soar even further as ever more ludicrous conditionality is invented to claim the pittance of Jobseekers Allowance. Reform of Disability Living Allowance, which will see around a fifth of disabled people lose benefits, has barely even begun.  The Atos assessments will continue, and even those judged unable to work may still face workfare.  Possibly hundreds of thousands of claimants face court action due to Council Tax benefit reform.   Housing Benefit caps are fast making many cities completely unaffordable for the poor.  And next April, as food prices, fuel bills, fares and rents continue to soar, all claimants, including many of the poorest pensioners, will face a real terms cut in benefits.

The only question that now remains is just how bad are things likely to get?  How many people will lose their homes, how many thousands, or millions, of children will go hungry?  How many more heartbreaking deaths will occur like the ones we heard about throughout December?

Iain Duncan Smith either doesn’t care or is truly deluded about the consequences of making the poorest even poorer.  Despite talk of austerity, the rest of the cabinet seem to think that money falls from the sky, which it does if you happen to be George Osborne or David Cameron.  No-one in this Government, and few in Parliament, seem to have any understanding that money actually runs out if you happen to be poor.  To take away the last few pounds that someone needs to survive will not just make them hungry, desperate and depressed but could be a death sentence.

This inhumanity, in one of the richest countries in the world, must be brought to an immediate end.  A massive escalation in the fight against all welfare reforms is the only way to achieve that.

If things seem bleak that’s because they are.  But Iain Duncan Smith’s welfare reforms are as bodged as they are brutal.  Without the connivance of charities, functioning welfare-to-work companies, employers, health and social security professionals, housing associations and local councils, all of his policies could turn to dust.  There are many places to inflict pressure or just fuck shit up.  Every weakness in this Government’s plans must be exploited to the full, and new vulnerabilities uncovered.  And every time we find one we should be ramming a spanner in the works, until things start to break.

Stay strong next year, as healthy as you can, and most of all stay alive.  Do not give these bastards what they want.

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373 responses to “RIP Tim Salter and Denis Jones. Is This What You Wanted Iain Duncan Smith?

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  2. Well written! I hope you all have a better 2014 than the last bastard. Keep up the exposure of billionaires and their crawling politicians fisting the country!

  3. cliche, yeah, but what nearly killed me made me stronger, and by fuck i wont give in to these cunts

  4. Great writing here again Johnny. IDS if he is a true narcissist will never admit he is wrong. NEVER! He will believe his own lies, and will certainly not have an ounce of empathy or any remorse. This will never happen with those who have no conscience. My heart goes out to the people who died recently, this is outrageous that it is all carrying on, business as usual. WHY are Atos still in business????

    Everyone Google: Whistler blower work test, and see what DR GREG WOOD has to say about Atos. He left because of the vile corruption.

    I am one of those people who will be having a bit of court fucking action with the Council Tax. They are demanding I pay them 600 pounds with court costs. I have to go to court in January. How kind of them to send me this vile piece of filth in a brown fucking envelope Chirstmas eve. I had NO MONEY because my ESA was withdrawn for 2 months in Oct and Nov. Well of course I was unable to pay. This is daylight robbery I tell thee!!!

    Its not easy to keep going and struggling to stay alive, but one has to do what one can. Everyone is probably finding there own way of survival now, weather on ESA and poorly ,or on JSA and being run into the ground. We got to keep going. Fucking IDS and his minions are like rats up a drainpipe.

  5. IBS would love stuff like this if he wasn’t so busy enjoying his arrogance and the proceeds of his sponging.

    Suicide is the final market solution is to the psychopath scum at the wheel

  6. The only way we are going to change things is by demostration and direct action, regardless of new public order laws, we the people should be out on the streets in our droves fighting back against this tyranny!

    These people are killing us! We must fight back! It’s time our rich oppressors felt the full force of our anger!

    I cannot believe the complacency that has seeped into the hearts of the British people, it’s time for change, it’s time we ended once and for all our archaic class system and three party election loop!

    We need to start fighting back properly in 2014!

    • I’m with you krakatoa

      How do we take it onto the streets?
      Maybe Mr void can give us guidance on how to fight as individuals as well as collectively?
      This has to be the year we stop all of this before anymore inhumane deaths occur.

      • We KNOW how to fight back individually, it just aint palatable.
        Civil disobedience, non compliance, non payment, join activist groups…

      • What does Direct Action Mean?
        It means that you are no longer prepared to sit back and allow terrible,
        cruel things to happen. Direct action in human and animal rights means causing economic damage to those who abuse and make profits from exploitation.
        It’s possible to do things alone, slash tyres, glue up locks, smash windows, bankrupt the lot. Throw paint over shops and houses. Paint stripper works great on cars. A seized engine just won’t start, sand in the petrol tank means that delivery’s going nowhere. Try and form a group of people that you know that you can trust and plan ambitious direct action, sometimes risky but a must. Only when you have human liberation will we obtain human freedom

        There’s your answer.. Courtesy of Conflict
        Ref: This is the ALF, The Arrest – ’1984, The Battle Continues’

    • they couldn’t possibly enforce those laws if enough people disobeyed them.

      • The lesson of the riots a couple of years ago is that it isn’t possible to police the UK by force without spending significantly more one the police. The key thing is going to be arranging several simultaneous actions so that they can’t all be contained effectively. We also need to work harder at networking via new media, because the old media will never report the truth when it comes to the establishment screwing over the people and the people fighting back. Protests need to be documented by video and the videos disseminated through new media to try to rival the level of coverage the mainstream media achieve.

        • Yes co-ordination is key when it comes to civil disobedience & direct action but there is one big problem – how do we communicate with one another without our communications being seen/picked up by police/security services? Anything you post on social media or smart phone is going to be picked up, some kind of network which goes ‘under the radar’ is going to be necessary.

    • Most of us who are being targeted are too fucking ill, too weak, too tired to take to the streets. Nobody cares about the sick and disabled, If they did care then none of this could have happened, the lies would not have been believed.

      Do you want to know what happens when we dare to go outside? We’re spat at, screamed at, pushed and shoved, tripped, kicked, and called vile names.

  7. arbeit macht frei Duncan Smith

    Iain Duncan Smith is doing a sterling job of killing off the sick and disabled non workers. And he has managed to apply much of the knowledge he gained from his trips to Treblinka and Auschwitz.

    These deaths mentioned haven’t even cost the treasury anything in cyanide gas canisters either, Zyclon B is no competition for Atos and workfare.

    Iain no doubt sees himself a modern knight of the round table – very similar to Heinrich Himmler in fact. Perhaps he is a reincarnation?

    Sir Iain and the trusty sword of British justice has warded off such enemies of the state that dare to refuse their station of servitude and deference with death and dishonour.

    We have with the UK government and governments in waiting that all are setting neighbour against neighbour in their divide and rule.
    That climate of divide and rule being subtlety and subliminally imprinted via TV radio and the press and everyone now claiming any of benefit is demonised.

    Yet ironically the truly guilty fraudsters like the vast majority of grossly overpaid MPs today fiddling every last ha’penny on duckhouses, wisteria bushes, gardeners and fake secretaries, houses that they’re buying with public funds and selling for large personal profits etc. and their (lol) “independent” yes-men pay committees & comical attempts at making someone like Andrew Mitchell MP who clearly is absolutely guilty of calling the Police officers that day plebs (the rub being for once the police testimony IS true) illustrates just what they actually do think of the soldiers like the guy mentioned by Johnny Void who took his own life because his income support was stopped. Afghanistan and Iraq and the Taliban didn’t kill him but Atos did.

    The Para Olympics for example were just a propaganda tool to justify cutting disabled benefits too…you are supposed to say to yourself look what these cripples can do and you consider your self disabled?

    I believe the true Britain today is the one that rioted before the Olympics in 2012.
    Perhaps it is time for another strike… but make sure you are well disguised this time…. gentlemen….

    And finally to answer the question: Is This What You Wanted Iain Duncan Smith? …… well YES of course it is…….!

    • Don’t forget William Hague meddled with the human rights act back in September which gave the state the right to take life if it quells a riot or insurrection. Have a look here…

      http://earthlinggb.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/william-hague-british-government-have-the-power-to-use-chemical-weapons-on-public/

      Now it looks like that if genuine protesters take to the street, the state can murder them.

      • It keeps the chemical companies in business and that’s what matters.

      • Didn’t Camoron want to invade Syria for precisely the same reason, the government supposedly used chemical weapons on “innocent civilians” when the truth was it was the islamist rabble who actually fired the weapons into a civilian area.
        A breathtaking example of double standards.

    • I have to agree with you concerning the fascist connection.

      Like the demonizing propaganda within The Daiy Mail, nazi Germany had `Der Angriff` (The Attack) that continuously spouted lies, hatred and blame as a means to enforce wrongful ideas and views on both the already ugly minds and as many of the ignorant as possible – As we all know too well, it worked.

      Looks like Britain`s Elite is hoping for the same kinda propaganda outcome, It is trying so hard to enforce views of hatred and blame. It has already caused homelessness, starvation and death. (not far off from the original outcome is it)
      – what more evidence is needed? NONE!!!

    • What about the diabolical flop of a stinking book IDS wrote before he came into power and rained down his filthy tyrannical abuse on the poor. The book was called ‘THE DEVILS TUNE’ how ironic, I think this is a true of what’s going on right now. There was talk of Nazi collaboration in it. Not read it myself but read the reviews, that were absolutely rank rotten. Why is this man obsessed with Auchwhitz?, and why did he visit there just before he rolled out the impossible tyrannical policies? Terrible this man is in charge of the English not so welfare state.

    • IDS and the rest are wrong but they are not comparable to the Nazis.

      That comparison only hurts those against the government/DWP

  8. 32,000 claimants were not paid by DWP due to ‘ error ‘..just before Christmas…
    I noted it was reported by papers that DWP stated it ‘ only ‘ 32,000 so thats alright then.
    Its ironic isn’t it that the usual bollocks of ‘ benefit scrounger ‘ figures and monies lost I’d often down to ‘ fraud and error ‘ well since we know thecfraud part is lower than people think I wonder how much is lost in error
    But this time the error resulted in claimants going without.
    I wonder what the fuck up was this time
    We could guess that the use of IDS universal credit might have caused this fiasco.

    • That, or just a deliberated blip to screw people over right at a time they might (if only for a minute) forget about all the shit surrounding them?

      • If you remember BobChewie, i said on here a few times when i first found you all, it was ATOS throwing me off I.B. on the 26th of December that triggered my spiral of decline leading in to the nuthouse- It wouldnt have mattered what day i was left penniless really, but that date seemed to have a psychological double whammy- how did the brown envelope get through the Christmas post, how the fuck do you ring to fight your corner when everything is shut till new year, and remember there is NO instruction as to what to do next or appeal, just a cold letter saying payment cease on a certain date.
        Yeah it tipped me over the edge.
        The hard survivor that was created from that entire year of hell- and i still get little stabs in the back reminding me of what happened during that time- looks back and wonders why it damaged me so much. That symbolic time, It could have been mid summer and the results would have been the same.
        But i DO remember how it affected me, therefore i can understand, however temporary , that on waking on Christmas eve morning and going to the ATM expecting your pittance to be in there and to find your account empty, the pit in the stomach those 33000 felt.

        • … & as a reminder of ‘who’s in charge’ …

          • sn
            actually it is an attempt to put themselves in charge, create a communications breakdown and cause frustration…which is why we must inform ourselves, assert our rights, and this takes time…most like me assumed, wrongly, that the system would be honest and fair, boy have i had a shock…we live and learn, most will agree that we should not have to learn in this way, at 1st, it takes a lot of efforts to resist their abuse, then after a while we can do it easily…

      • i think they did it because they can.

  9. By the way. Esther McVile claimed £18,000 for accomadation from 2011-2012.
    I had the link from ipso. The parliamentary standards lot.
    I posted it on BTC.
    I wonder what that eighteen grand for accomadation was about.
    And at a time when people becoming homeless.

  10. Eric Greenwood (4727)

    The DWP are guilty of Murder, Anyone who works for the DWP who do nothing to stop these suicides are guilty of murder. They themselves have used the words we cannot do anything, aka we are only obeying orders. I can see this next year will be hell.. If i ever do get bad again and this time i want to carry it out.. i will make sure it is the dwp that caused it and i will send it to every paper and news outlet..

    • £71:70 a week is an impossible amount of jsa to live on, I am fortunate enough to be able to do some cash in hand work but not all have the ability to do this.
      I would have topped myself if I wasn’t able to do it.
      Ironic thing is most of the jobs I do are for wealthy people, they turn a blind eye when getting some work done very cheaply indeed.

    • Everyone, must be positive like me. I never give up on anything. Are you ok Eric ??

        • Eric Greenwood (4727)

          Its going to be a bad year, Sometimes the only solution is to leave..I have had enough of the DWP, If what i feel is going to happen will happen. then that will be a step down a route that leads to hell.. and the sooner i am out of it the better, luckily there is no spawn of eric to see what happens afterwards. labour has said they are going to be even tougher than the tories, I can see enforced work camps coming, I dont meant work programme volunteers, but more like the poor house and some of the work camps in the 2nd world war..

          I dont think i will ever be ok, not when society is against us. I will fight but less and less i dont see any point in fighting or even staying around when no one will listen.. when IDS/Fraud will not listen, when doctors wont listen to the fact that people are being bullied to death. ,.

          • Hi Eric, I hear you, It is truly brutal, The Government (and all political parties) are elite scum with an agenda.

            Society unfortunately, conditioned to be uncaring – `if it doesnt affect me, why should I care?` But, there are so many of us in the same boat here and we all hear each other. I hope you are okay? You are not alone

            • Eric Greenwood (4727)

              Problem is We know its bad, almost all of us on these sites, yet we have no voice in the wider world.. we are being isolated and being reduced because its so hard to fight against the tidal wave of hatred heading towards us.. Until it hits the wider society we are a series of lone voices, we cant even agree amongst ourselves a lot which divides us and our power further. We get called anarchists, lazy, job snobs, scroungers. because we are daring to stand up and say its wrong.. We are alone i am afraid, until we actually do things to make society take notice but government propaganda is endemic. they have access to more sources of media led and people fall for it. Look at all the anti unemployed stories on bbc/itv/other stations. People will not search out the truth online because we have no voice in most media. Until there is a wave of protest (which the laws are going to be used to limit that), or a mass list of the dead caused by the dwp and government policies nothing will change.. even then they will say they are morally inferior as has been shown as they have killed themsevles they must be insane so we can ignore them..

    • The DWP are a law only to themselves and think they are above the law. It’s about time we held mass protests in all jobcentres as they are now killing off people in order to save just a few pennies in their ever-decreasing coffers.

      The money is being wasted on all those illegal foreigners now swamping our country and is not going to the disabled people in need of assistance.

      The tory twats should hang their heads in shame for allowing the DWP to commit murder.

    • Many of us are vowing not to kill ourselves no matter how bad it gets. If we reach the stage we can’t continue we will disable a Tory MP instead. The worst that can happen is that we will then be killed by armed police if it’s a high enough profile target, and the alternative is to spend many years being sheltered and fed at Her Majesty’s Pleasure. Not fun options, but better and more constructive than suicide.

  11. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
    Johnny Void here reports the tragic deaths of two more people, who died in despair and privation after their benefits were stopped by Atos. It’s another couple of names to add to the long list of victims compiled by Stilloaks and some of the other disability bloggers. And the situation, as this post shows, is about to get worse.

    Unfortunately, Johnny Void is right in that Labour, as well as the Tories, seemed to have swallowed the Right-wing nonsense about benefit sanctions being necessary to motivate the feckless benefit scroungers into helping themselves. One member of Blair’s cabinet has already written that Rupert Murdoch was a constant, invisible presence at cabinet meetings, as Blair worried how his policies would go down with the media moghul. I also seem to recall that Blair was disappointed when he couldn’t win over the Mail’s Paul Dacre. Nevertheless, I think the country would be much better off with Labour in government. However, I do agree with The Void that there needs to be constant pressure on the government and campaigning against their policies and the organisations that seek to implement and exploit them.

    • Benefits are sanctioned for one reason only and that is individual claimants who don’t make it appear to the dwp that they are doing everything possible to find work. It’s no great hardship to visit the u/j site once a day, the dwp themselves have made it easier for claimants who don’t even have to go out of their door to satisfy their jobseekers agreement. Use the u/j site to your own advantage morons!

      • Follow these steps and the dwp leave you alone.
        There are many work from home jobs available too for the ones who suffer mobility problems, there is always a way to earn a living if you really want to!

        • Eric Greenwood (4727)

          I think you are wrong.. the Universal jobs match site is a sanction machine. They can force you to apply for any job, even scam jobs and you cannot refuse.. You cant just visit once a day, you have to visit all the time due to the scamming sites posting non existent or commision only jobs selling avon/betterware etc..and they push all other jobs out. If you search for just one type of jobs the adviser will say you arent looking further afield. I see Phoenix you have fallen for the lie that there are jobs out there for everyone.. you are in essence blaming the unemployed for being unemployed, Not employers for not hiring.. The DWP will never leave you alone.. it is all about stopping people’s money not getting them a job.

          • Eric, I am with you on most you have to say, after all I’m caught in the same net. Most of the u/j advertised jobs are scammers but if you apply without actually getting an interview or response, report the scammers on your diary, if everyone did that what options do the jobcentre have? It’s the only way to make a statement and helps in court when fighting unjust sanctions, all I’m saying is turn their weapons against them!

            • Pheonix, What planet are you on? Are you telling us your single handedness (via diary) has been a weapon against the DWP???

              For goodness sake, You are getting on my nerves, stop posting pointless posts that are an attempt to make us believe you are on benefits.

              Believe it or not, the majority of us have an intellect (exceeding yours clearly)

            • what options they will ignore it, they will say you are deliberately doing this as you dont want a job so sanction time..You are still believing the lie that the job centre is there to help people.. So we are to do what they say as a protest against them.. The job centre is a Sanction machine thats all they care about and want.. they are not there to get people jobs but to get people off benefits and the easiest way is sanctions.. trumped up charges 3 years destitution..I reported a advert that asked for money it was still there a month later..

        • Phoenix..

          I very much doubt if you have ever been given an illegal sanction under the JCP claiming falsely of not doing enough to find work. That is what exactly happened to me a few months ago by my corrupt JCP office. The reality of me having a sanction was simply because I fell into their monthly sanction quota. Nothing more.

          I do all I can to find work, but to the twats running the DWP it is still not enough. The DWP is an insatiable monster – the more it expects, the more it wants, and when it doesn’t get its own way and what it wants, it turns nasty and breaks your spirit for what it claims you are non-compliance to their own self-made rules.

          • something survived...

            and can blokes be mandated to apply too?

            dwp is pimping again! and pimping is illegal. jail ids now
            (or have sex workers kick him a lot – unless he likes being kicked. Adolf hitler liked it)

        • So find me a job. I can generally manage 36 hours during a good week, and at least 12 hours during a bad week. I can’t guarantee to be capable of working on any specific day, or at any specific time, and I can’t be sure of meeting deadlines of less than several months. I will need to be able to lie down for a while every few hours. I can’t safely commute for more than an hour from Brixton and walking for more than half a mile is usually out of the question. I’ll need to avoid any serious stress or I could end up hospitalised again. Though that might happen anyway. Due to the medication I am taking I can’t operate heavy machinery or drive (or cycle). Because of my “twitch” and some problems with my hands I have a tendency to drop things unexpectedly so handling anything delicate is probably not a good idea.

          So find me a job then. Because God knows I’ve tried and there are too many healthier people competing for the few things I might even vaguely have a shot at.

          Alternatively, you, and IDS, can stop talking out of your backsides about something you clearly are utterly ignorant about and let people like me spend the time we need to recover and go back to working and earning good money and paying a decent amount of tax.

          Incidentally I could be unable to work for another year and I’ll still be using up taxes I PAID, and that’s not taking inflation into account and not counting VAT.

          off!

          • Dear claimant can you hurry up and kill yourself as we have targets to fulfil and I get a bonus for the most that die. Stop being selfish and clinging on to life. ( jcp advisor weekly ‘ how to deal with workshy scum for fun and profit )

            • something survived...

              I’m sure we could all find the time and energy if the job involved taking a very large dildo and ramming it up IDS

        • No please you are kidding work from home and never get paid. You sound like those spam posts on youtube. Do you get kick backs for that spamming

          • something survived...

            Also, if you work from home: most tenancies ban that, so you, even if the scammers never paid you (I’ve done home work and it’s been nowt but shite), you can be evicted on the spot for breaching tenancy conditions like not using home as workplace. They don’t care if you are disabled and/or can’t get any other job.

        • @Phoenix, your full of shite!

      • Phoenix, have ever been sanctioned? People who work on the frontline at JCP have confirmed that claimants can be sanctioned for nothing. I know several people who have been sanctioned for missed appointments that they actually did attend! I was once sanctioned for not attending an appointment I was never informed of. If you are vulnerable, have learning difficulties, appear depressed etc then you’re less likely to challenge DWP, it’s always been that way, always. My dad (who is now retired) was threatened with a sanction many years ago during an appointment at JCP that he’d asked for. Imagine the ‘advisors’ disappointment when my dad retorted that he wasn’t a claimant, was in full time work and was merely enquiring about a better paid job. He was a skilled engineer, they wanted him to take a part time cleaning job. If he’d been claiming they’d have sanctioned him. Dad was a winner that day :D

        • I was illegally sanctioned for four weeks either simply because my so-called JCP advisor was bored silly that day and wanted to spite me, or she was trying to honour a bet made between her and the manager on how many sanctions she could get away with in issuing, or because she decided to put me on that month’s sanction list as there was one spare place that needed to be filled otherwise the JCP would not favour their puppet masters.

          • I think that anybody who gets a sanction overturned should get financial compensation – like a sanction in reverse! – to help them out and punish the DWP.

            • Too true, the sanctioned have racked up living expenses that need to be paid, so where does the sanctioned money go to?

            • Yep. And the Jobcentre clerk that raised the doubt in the first place should be disciplined to discourage him/her from raising doubts randomly and upsetting claimants needlessly.

            • Jon,
              I see what you’re saying but there should be the option of raising a sanction ‘doubt’ in first place. It’s quite simply not a civilised way to treat anyone. Someone in work who doesn’t pull their weight or is not considered to be doing “enough” will only be sacked (& not paid) after a series of verbal & written warnings – & then they still (should, by rights) have access to a minimum income to cover basic needs/care for any dependants they may have = from the ‘safety net’ that was meant to be the public fund for people who find themselves in need of it.

              This is just ridiculous. An adult who is unemployed or on benefits for whatever reason is not a naughty child. Taking away someone’s sole source of income isn’t some kind of a ‘slap on the wrist’/reminder to try a bit harder.

              I am incandescent about this and always will be until it’s exposed/stopped.

            • *(“should not be” …)

            • something survived...

              sanction their (DWP’s) fucking oxygen

          • If someone sanctions you illegally wait till their finishing time, follow them home and kill them, don’t be spineless.

        • Proves its a stitch up then. Job centre is now sanctions machine cum death squad .

          • bob, at the risk of stating the obvious and repeating what already been said – they are playing with people’s lives … & half the country are unaware/don’t want to know – the other half do know/don’t care & the other half (yes, i know) are in fear/feel that it’s being done ‘openly in plain sight’ with barely any fuss/people not noticing’ … this can’t be an accident? Even the heinous IDS/McVile double-act have to have some kind of evil plan up their sleeves however innocent they pretend to be …

            (More incensed than usual today following a few ‘days off’ from thinking too much about it & having not had to see the lovely JCP-people for more days than usual).

      • That’s maybe the alleged most often given ‘reason’ that allows many of the sanction ‘doubts’ raised to stick, but other reasons seem to include:

        One of them takes against you – it only needs one ‘adviser’ to raise a doubt on any given ‘occasion’. (You’re ‘difficult’/not accepting of all they explain – even make alternative arguments/suggestions sometimes & all of this makes their job less straightforward – challenges their whole set up);
        You have a mind of your own and they’ve noticed;
        You don’t seem to appreciate their ‘help’ in all the right ways;
        They’re having a bad day/haven’t issued their quota for the week;
        you help them by being a couple of minutes late;
        You stick to your guns about not wanting to use UJ as it’s a (potential) sanction machine;
        they have to do slightly more/different work to verify or look through your ‘evidence’ of searching for more & better work in the prescribed way(s) as a result;
        They don’t like your cv because you produced it by yourself – & it’s ok;
        You’ve not been sanctioned (yet) & they have the bit between their teeth;
        They don’t like the cut of your jib (but probably they can’t say why).
        There’s an r in the month.

        *(Thinking of compiling an alternative handbook for new claimants as it would be preferable to find all this out via through a handy leaflet on day one rather than via stressful & disturbing experience in real time).

        Nitwits!

        • Actually eric is right – it’s job centre(-) that’s the sanction machine.

          ~ which is of course why it’s so horrendous to have to even set foot in there (most people aren’t set up for constant conflict). If we dwelled on that thought 24/7 it would become (even more) distressing than it already is to have to continue to ‘engage’ – so we are trying to make sense of nonsense – constantly.

          It’s quite an effort to be able to put this all to one side & try to keep on keeping on – as most people on here seem to be in agreement about – but that’s what has to be somehow happen – for the measly pittance to be paid … it would be hysterically funny if it were a Python sketch or similar, rather than real life.

          R4 had the temerity to make a ‘satirical/comic’ series recently about ‘the job centre’ just now – complete with ‘characters’ & the supposed idiosyncratic goings-on there. It wasn’t big, or clever – no idea who or what it was for & of course, it was nowhere near the truth – how would it have been?

          • Shirleynott – I too saw that abomination of a `sitcom` and thought `Ang on this is an effing piss take`. No such comedics in reality and if anything an insult to reality.
            Having my conspiracist mind (as ever) I believe such a show was made deliberately at a time to mock us further.

            `Situational Comedy` – My effing arse

            • hi elohimette – first there was a tv one (?), then the radio one appeared.
              So far only ‘league of gentlemen’ have managed to get anywhere near to any (black) humour. R4 clearly didn’t send anyone out to research an actual jcp- … surely they would have scrapped the idea if they had.

            • something survived...

              See last night BBC2 Gregor Fisher as Rab C Nesbitt. They start the Scum Alliance for the unemployed and poor, and rob banks and give the money away. Some of the points about the jobcentre were much more accurate. Food Bank was really on the mark. Rab’s wife gets interviewed on TV, cooking rats and foxes, and eating grease off bin lids. There were lines like ‘you’re punishing people for not having jobs, when there are no jobs’.

            • Excellent. Go Rab !

              There are plenty of people who know exactly what is going on – even if not exactly comprehending the why of it, There were people ahead of me in the queue (yet again) at CAB being informed by the very nice man in there that if, due to redundancy and not being able to sign on til x date, they couldn’t meet essential needs, JcP should have told them about hardship payment. They had asked about a crsis loan and just been told “\we don:t do those any more .. .. bye” ….

              cab man clearly has heard it all before but the young man who was just out of work & his mum who was concerned and offering moral support, were instead asking about food banks and the conversation went down the “You are not likely to qualify for a food parcel, due to being a single male. You would need to have children”. This led on to a discussion about the increase in muggings/shoplifting that is bound to stem from people being desparate – at the same time making it clear that criminal activity wasn:t their cup of tea & expressing dismay, The advice was try to keep your nose clean and do your jobsearch as being sanctioned is no fun …

              That people in this siutation are having to go from pillar to post – no doubt accompanied by a growing feeling of having to virtually beg/being outside what we perhaps thought were the basics of living in society in order to get hold of essential money to live on til a benefit payment is grudgingly made (and having to search for jobs diigently all the while) beggars belief -pun not intended but still, it seems apt.

            • See you Jimmy… Iain Duncan Shite… dinae come roon ‘ere gieing me any o’ yir shite!!

    • why would the country be much better off with labour in. It is pass the parcel time again and they are all in it together.
      We need fresh blood and new movements that emerge as electables.

  12. Pheonix, I do not appreciate being called a moron and your posts merely point that title back at yourself. You are one of two things…… A Moron or a Troll

    Work at home jobs are so easy to live on? Go get one yourself and stop working cash in hand / or Stop pretending you do to evoke a reaction

    As for UJM,have you no clue to the actuality of it? The fake jobs, The sanctioning due to it? / or are you part of it?

    I never use the damn site but instead search for real jobs that do exist, then I print out the emails proving application.

    I truly think you are a troll, no one who is within the system at present thinks like you do. MORON!!!!

    • Terrible ad and the advertiser cannot even spell (too instead of the correct `to`)

      Its diabolical and disturbing all in one go

      • Eric Greenwood (4727)

        AND the dwp can force women to work and apply for that job.. if they dont sanction time.. so a choice of prostitution or destitution..

        • Hi again Eric, I am (thus far) refusing to use UJM on the grounds I say I am but, no evidence needed. I search everywhere but.

          I apply for jobs and tick the ` receive a copy` box and in turn print out my inbox just prior to going into JCP.
          The upside is I have evidence I am looking for work without using UJM

          (The lie that I am using it of course, to prevent sanction because I am told if I do not use it I will be penalized)

          ……… But, in my contract with the DWP it does not state I must use it and alternatively states I have to search and apply for at least 6 jobs a week.

          My evidence of job applications does exceed the 6 and with my contract in my bag every JCP visit, I am at all times ready to prove my contract is never faltered by me.
          If asked `Are you using UJM?` I reply `Yes` and point out a random job applied for, saying I was transferred to the site via UJM – Its shit of course but, the pressure is off somewhat.

          • I was told my my Post work programme support adviser,, I HAD to use UJM, I HAD to bring print outs of all the jobs i applied for..if i didnt sanction time.. Because i “failed” the work programme they put the blame on me.. forget i was applying for 2/3 or more jobs a day.. it was all my fault so i had to do all this stuff..

            • I am told this too, but, with contract in hand and evidence of applied for work I am scraping by…. believe me, I fear the JCP working a loophole round mine.

              But, it is working for me at present. It seems it wont be long before I am up shit street then? I have just completed 6 mnths on the work program.

            • Mr Duncan Smith is carrying out gods will by cracking down on atheist communism and mass idleness with is an organised plot by KGB using fake disability to wreck this country. We should praise this lone warrior against evil not criticise him ( extract from ‘ diary of a tory lunatic)

            • something survived...

              ‘Diary of a tory Lunatic’, was ghostwritten for him (IDS) by a Vogon poet, Grunthos the Flatulent’s, ‘small lump of green putty I found in my armpit’. It’s reportedly commented as having been upset it’s yet to receive any royalties.

        • Then the DWP are pimps & should be prosecuted!

        • @ Eric the answer will be ” at least its better than sitting around on your arse doing nothing sponging off the state “

      • By ticking ” I will use UJM ‘ will result you going to heaven . IDS is just trying to fast track you there.. Bless him

        • That’s why it’s called ‘universal’ – there’s no escaping it even in afterlife?

          • Will no one rid us of this evil ?

            • something survived...

              yes if, can anyone come up with the bus fare?

              The tories like reshuffles so here is a suggestion. Sack the whole government and replace them with sex workers. They could run the country so much better. All those cocks left to be sucked, well, since workers are (according to DWP/JCP) blank slates and interchangeable, the ex-government tory scum can be forced to be sex workers instead. They wanted this situation, let them bloody do it. See how a job, ‘any job’, gives meaning and purpose to their lives..(!)

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  14. Eric Greenwood (4727)

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/09/AR2007020901925.html The Better Business Bureau has received 20 complaints about the three companies, and all share similarities. USA Voice, Instant Human Resources and Internet Solutions advertised such positions as “gossip reporter,” “IT assistant” and “quality control administrator” on employment sites such as Monster, CareerBuilder and Yahoo HotJobs, and contacted people who had posted résumés there. But after being enticed to give up personal information, job seekers never heard from the companies again and instead began getting inundated with spam. (today that would be Universal Jobsmatch as well)

  15. That vile cunt needs to go.

    • something survived...

      Which particular one? So many you could be referring to.
      (but I guess, given the context, you mean IDS/Idolised Dog Shit)

  16. Reblogged this on gingerblokeblog and commented:
    An interesting question:

  17. RIP Ian Duncan Smith, may the bastard drop down dead in 2014. May the Jobcentres all burn to the ground. May the House of Commons be struck by lightening.

    • The smug tory twat should be arrested for assisting in the deaths of those two innocent victims – victims of his dangerous social re-engineering.

      If I had committed manslaughter or murder I would then be looking at a prison sentence for anything up to 25 years life imprisonment. So why then has the smug tory wanker got off without a police investigation after helping to kill two innocent people?

  18. Would be a good start to the new year lol

  19. Read the background details of any serial killer, anywhere in the world, from Jeffery Dahmer to Rose West & they all have several details in common – many were beaten or sexually abused from a young age or were victims of neglect & indifference. Some had been in care as their families could not cope with their behaviour. Many have been diagnosed as psychopathic as they have no conscience or remorse for their actions.
    Does anyone really know anything about the early life of George Iain Duncan Smith prior to being in the army? He displays all the symptoms of a serial killer,he is certainly psychopathic, but unlike most serial killers he has his minions in the DWP to carry out his deeds as he’s too much of a coward to do otherwise.

    • IDS, the ex. Fred West, the ex. Jeffery Dahmer have all one thing in common. They are psychopaths with criminal intent to commit mass murder and see how long they can get away with it before anybody notices.

      • Betsy Fremantle Smith (Mrs)

        Oh, why don’t you sit down and be quiet? My husband has been losing sleep dreaming up ways to help get moribund persons like you into some kind of employment or other. Digging ditches, or packing biscuits, or putting crockery into boxes – or whatever. Be thankful that so fine a man has your best interests at heart 24/7.

        He is working for you.

        • SOD OFF.

          ids is a complete and utter wanker

        • How could anyone stay with such a complete, thickheaded wanker? Must be as evil & twisted as him as you certainly didn’t marry him for his looks, personality or sparkling repartee & were the rest of your family happy about him sponging off them while he was fiddling the dole?
          Answers on the back of a stamp, please.

      • IDS real name is George Iain Duncan Smith, sharing that name was George Smith (executioner) (1805–1874), English executioner also known as Throttler Smith, George Joseph Smith (1872–1915), British “Brides in the Bath” murderer

    • @kitty he is trying to prove to his party that they were wrong to dump him. Thats what this is all about.

  20. Iain Duncan Smith MP (King of the DWP)

    Dear Friends

    Many comments featured on this page are rude, insolent, and unseemly.

    I would advise you to mend your ways as soon as may be.

    Hop to!

    We are working for you.

    • FUCK OFF, YOU MASS MURDERER. THE BRITISH PEOPLE HAVE NOW SEEN YOU IN YOUR TRUE COLOURS TO WHAT YOU REALLY ARE…

      ONE SADISTIC, PAEDOPHILLIC PSYCOPATH.

      DIE IN HELL, YOU SMUG BALD-HEADED MURDERER!

      • Iain Duncan Smith MP (King of the DWP)

        My Friend

        The people mentioned in this scurrilous article are despicable individuals guilty of committing the very great sin of self-murder or suicide. By their actions they themselves transgressed by taking a human life – in this case their own! – and are hence ipso facto mightily sinful souls according to the tenets my religion, Roman Catholicism, doomed to suffer the pains of hell in the afterlife for God alone has the right to give and to take life according to the method of his means.

        What you call “murder” I call “nature’s discretion”.

        God bless.

        We are working for you.

        • I suggest you keep looking behind you at all times. Nature’s discretion will strike you down at any moment. Nobody will mourn your funeral, you lying scumbag.

          Karma is coming, smithy. prepare to meet your own downfall from the human race …

        • “God alone has the right to give and to take life” tell that to the abortionists.
          Vatican 2 revokes it’s damnation of those that commit suicide, not that it should ever have been considered a sin in the first place, but that’s the skewered thinking of catholicism, a bit like the work ethic of protestantism.

        • Call yourself a christian do you? I fucking hate those who wear their so-called “faith” on their sleeve, as they’re all bloody hypocrites. You’re a lying, murdering scumbag & believe me, Karma is coming for you, big time,and all the minders with guns surrounding you won’t save you from your fate, so keep watching your back!

          • Landless Peasant

            I contacted the Holy See at the Vatican some time ago to complain about IDS and try get him ex-communicated, but never got a reply.

          • IDS now gets accompanied by armed bodyguards like some South American dictator… Or should that be dicktator?

            http://beastrabban.wordpress.com/2013/12/11/ids-and-armed-bodyguards-no-one-trusts-the-man-who-trusts-no-one/

            He would be hard very hard to assassinate these days.

            • He always wears a light coloured shirt to see any red laser dots dancing about his person.
              A head shot would be nicer than a sanction though?

          • @kitty just had a spat with christians on another site I got sick of their stuck up holier than thou crap. Seems that we will go to hell for not believing in him. I guess that makes IDS better than us lot. He will be saved as he is believer. He can bump us off. But he is on gods side as he is a god worshipper
            That means he is better than us.

            • something survived...

              he’s catholic and against: sterilisation, refusing sex to husbands, anal sex as alternative to pregnancy, condoms, femidoms, the pill, abortion, etc etc. So his rules say Thou Shalt Be Constantly Pregnant (but only married hetero women). However he goes on to say poor people should not have kids or have more kids. What if they are catholic or anti abortion too? They can’t abstain as that is against the church. Sew their bits up? kill them in case they have kids? blow up the mum in case she has an abortion? A survivalist Louis Theroux met, believed in doing that. ~Blow the kid to bits in the womb to prevent its mum aborting it.
              If they follow nature they will usually have another kid. So they want to punish people for having kids. Make up your sick little mind, ids.

  21. I THINK ATOS ORIGINALLY WANTED CLAIMANTS TO ATTEND A MEDICAL EXAMINATION WHERE THEY WOULD BE PUT TO DEATH MORE HUMANELY, AN INJECTION IN THE ARM AND A FALSIFIED CORONERS REPORT……………

    DUNCAN SMITH, AFTER TORTURING ANIMALS AS A SCHOOLBOY, DECIDED THAT THIS IDEA WAS TOO SWIFT.
    HE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF A PROTRACTED DEATH USING SANCTIONS.
    THIS IDEA HAD THE BLESSING OF THE CABINET AFTER HE SHOWED THEM HIS COLLECTION OF HOLOCAUST TORTURE FILMS.

    SANCTIONS HAD AN INSTANT GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CONCEPT TO THEM, IF A DEATH SHOWED THE HALLMARKS OF THE DWP, GOVERNMENT COULD CLAIM THAT THE MURDERED VICTIM HAD THE CHOICE OF APPEALING………

    THIS IDEA WAS FINE UNTIL THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS MET THEIR MAKER AND PEOPLE STARTED TO WONDER IF THESE MURDERS WERE CONNECTED IN ANY WAY.

    AS THE BODY COUNT ROSE TO AN UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNT, EVEN THE POLICE WERE BAFFLED AS TO THE CAUSE. COULD IT BE THE WORK OF A SERIAL KILLER, A MAN DRESSED AS A CORNFLAKE, OR SOMETHING MORE SIMPLER, A GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT PERHAPS?
    COULD THE DWP, THE DEPARTMENT THAT IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN CHARGE OF WELFARE, BE MURDERING TO ORDER.

    SCOTLAND YARD, MI5, THE METROPOLITAN POLICE AND ALL AND SUNDRY ARE STILL BAFFLED BY THE RISE IN SUICIDES AND DEATHS AND STILL NOTHING IS BEING DONE………

    COULD IT BE THAT THEY ARE AFRAID OF TAKING SO MANY STATEMENTS FROM THE STAFF OF THE DWP, THAT SURROUND THIS MYSTERIOUS SURGE IN FATALITIES?

    WHAT STARTED AS AN EXTERMINATION OF THE WEAKEST HAS NOW TURNED INTO A PANTOMIME FARCE…………..

    YOU CAN CONTROL THE MEDIA, PROTECT THE POLITICIANS, CONTROL THE JUDICIARY, AND BURY YOUR MISTAKES, BUT WHOSE GOT THE BOTTLE TO STAND UP AND ADMIT YOU WERE WRONG?
    THE ANSWER IS NOBODY!

    IT’S GOVERNMENT POLICY TO SOLDIER ON AND CONTINUE WASTING MONEY RATHER THAN END THE FARCE.

    THE FARCE THAT IS FUNDED BY THE MONEY THAT HAS LED TO THE DEATHS OF SO MANY UNFORTUNATE VICTIMS.

    THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND WAITING. COULD THIS CRAZED SERIAL KILLER, BLESSED BY THE QUEENS ROYAL ASSENT, BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE BEFORE THERE ARE MORE HOUSES THAN PEOPLE………………….

    WHEN CAMERON SAID “WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER”, HE MEANT EXACTLY WHAT HE SAID………….

    THE BIGGEST COVER UP OF A RENEGADE DEPARTMENT, THE DWP, IN THE SPIRALING LOSS OF LIFE SINCE THE SECOND WORLD WAR!

    THE HANGMANS NOOSE IS TIGHTENING AS YOU STRUGGLE TO COME TO TERMS WITH THE INSURMOUNTABLE GHOSTS OF YOUR VICTIMS……………………………………

    • @geoff I don’t think MI5 are interested ..they are far too busy protecting MP child abusers.

      • That’s right Bob, so many MP’s, Senior police officers,Judges,etc etc…..
        Protecting the kiddy fiddlers is a full time job, whereas bringing politicians to justice over the thousands that have already died, becomes secondary…………………..
        Not too much secondary, probably not at all, because they will have been briefed to look the other way and have coroners reports altered.

        • @GEOFF almost certainly. Already we have had disinfo and attempt to discredit two key witnesses in operation fernbridge plus top investigator had his phone hacked plus a bogus website that appeared which attempted to discredit someone in the investigation
          Thats the degree they will go to to wreck the investigation ..

    • The Right Hon. Iain Duncan Smith MP

      I am so sorry to hear of the unfortunate deaths of Tim Salter and Denis Jones :-) [Ho, ho, ho] but may I remind your readership that ALL benefit recipients who have their benefits withdrawn in the first instance for infarctions of the rules are entitled to Appeal the decision.

      We are working for you

      The Right Hon. Iain Duncan Smith MP, Secretary of State for the Department of Work and Pensions.

  22. “ONE MANS SANCTION IS ANOTHER MANS DEATH SENTENCE”

    DEATH BY DECREE, A JOINT VENTURE BY THE QUEEN AND THE DWP……………..

  23. “As a nation we are sliding inexorably down a slippery moral slope to a place where integrity, honesty, human decency and just plain, simple ethical conduct will have no meaning and no identity!”

    http://rowans-blog.blogspot.co.uk/2013/12/how-far-down-scale-of-integrity-do-we.html

  24. Mad as Hell Aussie

    Hey l hope you guys are going alright over there l just read this blog & those comments :( Our new Australian Abbott Government wants the British Welfare Reform to come here & after what l just read l Bloody Don’t think so :( Its Murder in 1st degree of what’s going on over there l feel for you all Eric don’t you dare give up or give in then those barstards will win :( Hey lm just an Aussie who was born into the Intellectual Disability World 39 years ago with more then 1 impairments or disorders & l know for bloody fact that l can not Medically work can’t those short sighted dirt bag’s is that :( Why in the hell has WW2 return in the year of 2013/2014 l thought it was done & dusted not by the looks of it not by a long shot a you all need to stand together as 1 & tell that Governments & jobs providers the TRUTH l don’t what is British Welfare to came to Australia at all :( 😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢

    • “Australian budget update foreshadows sharp austerity cuts”

      “The treasurer yesterday reprised the central theme of his 2012 “end of the age of entitlement” speech, which declared that governments could no longer provide welfare or basic services.”

      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/18/myef-d18.html

      • Mad as Hell Aussie

        It was Australian Lynton Crosby that was David Cameron’s Election campaign manager. I guess the aussie’s are getting their own back on us for exporting our criminals to the country of the aborigines in the first place.

      • Mad as Hell Aussie

        Grrrrr l just more Mad as Hell Aussie l did hear for Joe Hockey that we have to live within our means or lifestyle :( What l can’t understand is what fucking lifestyle is Hockey talking about that’s what making my Blood Boils :( Whose with an Acquired Disability from Birth or later in life has no choice then to live within your means :( We need food on the table to eat,We need the power on to keep things cool or fresh to frigate or frozen even to keep those who have trouble breathing alive & to keep the house warm or cool depending on what weather it is :( All of this does cost money but there’s all a number of other’s who got a Disability that is visible to see eg like a walking stick or wheel chair then you those with Down Syndrome & others Right :( Then you also have those who are less visible or should l say Invisible & Hidden for those to see even when they look so able-bodied on the outside but if its a Neurological Birth Defects or the Central Nervous system including many others :( Then those with an Acquired Disability can not medically work for crying out loud if what’s happening in the British & Hockey Jockey want to bring it here :( Then those who are doing it tough struggling living in poverty now from then Rudd Government Cuts back in late 2009 & 2010 Big Ears Abbott Government now wants to take our souls & lively hoods away for what HOW can we pay for bills even the Telephone bills :( What the Hell is the United Nations Convention on the Rights of a Person with a Disability is doing anything about it all or not so much for Protection or are they covering their ass too :( 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

        • mad aussie
          we have to inform ourselves, know our human rights is to have free access to all vitals of life, develop or rediscover the self esteem humanity was born with..ie know thyself and know that we are right and assert those rights from our souls, soul is just another word for mind, (free soul = free mind)…these cuts are bullying spite….we must know that bullies DO prosper, under this capitalist set up, and remove their/the mechanisms of them prospering at our expense….we must learn not to tolerate, therefore we must be intolerant of abuse, we must learn not to take it, but to express ourselves towards the injustices inflicted upon us….we must make bullies irrelevant to our lives and shun them….we must find creative ways to defeat this tyranny, there is no island that we can retreat/escape to, too feed/shelter ourselves from this tyrannical storm….ranting at abusers to make them stop, will never stop them, because they have created a need of them, they control access to our vitals, access that they should never have in the 1st place….reject them, tell them to get lost! we must widely expose what they do…get rid of one atos/ids another will appear…

          • I hate to say this but things could be even worse for Austraulians than they are for people in the UK if the welfare reform bandwagon starts rolling down-under. Why? Because the Aussies have no human rights or data protection legislation from Europe to help them, even a little, in the way that British citizens have while the UK remains a part of the EEC.

            Which is one bloody good reason why it would be a terrible thing if our country was stampeded out of Europe by the frenzied Tories or barmy UKIP.

    • Whatever happens to welfare in Australia should NOT be based on the Tory so-called “welfare reforms” that are ruining and even ending the lives of many in the United Kingdom. Most of what has happened since 2010 has been disastrous. Please try to encourage your countrymen not to go down a blind alley like the one we now have ended up stuck in.

      • Mad as Hell Aussie

        Lolly l think its what Hockey wants what the British are doing at the moment witch is scaring the hell out of me :( So l’ve got to look out for the Troy so called Welfare Reform as l do not want & many others as well don’t want that type of Welfare anywhere near my Island home of AUSTRALIA at all :( Guy fawkes l don’t think so as that was well over 2000 years ago :(
        Annos :( thank you for those links l did seen & watch some of Hockey Jockey crap :( There is something going on around our so called World & its to do with that 2008 World wide Finance that hit Wall St & major banks from around the World l say but WHO is it :(
        😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈😈

  25. “Stay strong next year, as healthy as you can, and most of all stay alive…”.

    Or if you do kill yourself, make sure to kill a Tory or two first :) In the words of Winston Churchill when Britain was facing invasion in 1940, “You can always take one with you!”.

    • They should send us suicide kits out and soon people are going to start stealing livestock from farmers fields. I dont get why these idiots who shoot kids in schools dont go shoot them in parliament instead!

  26. After waiting a year for my ESA tribunal I finally had my hearing at the end of July with the result being going to 15 from 0 points.

    Today I received a new ESA50 “questionnaire” to fill in, my ESA was only fully reinstated near the end of August and already I have to go through the mill again. What makes it worse is that the form was dated the 24th December and as I only received it today due to the Christmas post backlog I only have 3 weeks instead of 4 to fill it in and return it by the 24th January.

    It’s as if all this is engineered to cause maximum stress and worry to ESA claimants who have the audacity to not let this brutal treatment stop them from claiming the benefits they are entitled to. I can only hope against hope that 2014 might bring some relief to people suffering at the hands of this system.

    • A friend of mine who works for the Tribunals Service tells me that the DWP have something the Tribunals people call the “win bin”. When a case is heard by a Tribunal the result is faxed to the relevant DWP office within 15 minutes of the decision. The “win bin” is why you will then get two weeks of the DWP claiming they haven’t received any paperwork and then a further few weeks of being told the paperwork is with another department.

      In fact the DWP could ALWAYS start payments again within one working day of the tribunal, and make the backpayment within a week. The reason they don’t is pure spite.

    • I wonder what will be the next ” crack down’ . So far its been claimants immigrants pensioners. Who is next ?

  27. I have to hope that IDS is thrown out of the cabinet, or that he dies! I also have to hope that Scotland becomes Independent as the bedroom tax, the PIP and the ESA would all be abolished!
    I may not like Alex Salmond but one thing I can’t fault him on is his determination to help the Scottish people.
    We have to hold on to some kind of hope – we have to to keep us going.
    And I’m with the person who said that they are complaining to their MP about the way Mr Smith brought armed guards and police with him – this was not proper conduct and it actually frightened the disabled people there. He cannot get away with flouting the rules about raised weapons!

    • The ones with the ammunition hold the balance of power and that is not the sick, the unemployed or the disabled. Brutality seems to be having the last word at the moment. It will only be when the armed forces turn their guns on this criminal rabble running the country that we will get any justice.

      • @ guy are you suggesting insurrection ? My god the feckless idle will take over…time to leave the country ..good thing corps have stashed their cash abroad. ” if we don’t pay top people enough money they will leave the country ” ( to live with their dosh )
        The rich have it covered both ways in fact every way.

      • g fawkes
        where’s chewie?

        • Hello donkey. Been busy posting on guardian CIF. Bloody hell seems I’ve got a few fans on their now..shock horror..one said on a thread about rail fares I was the only one who talked sense…at that point I made a hasty exit …not too keen on getting trolled or flamed…
          Oh btw there were twats claiming that commuting was a ‘lifestyle choice ‘ refugees from tthe daily hate I shouldn’t wonder..

          • chewie
            that’s a new disease classification being attacked by right wing anti-bodies….it’s a nasty world out there…best stay here and talk sense…imo opinion trains should be peddle powered…

    • I read that police guns were aimed at protestors

    • I hope IDS is thrown out of a window.
      That would be a window of opportunity

  28. They orter bring back the werk ousiz. ( working class tory an prowd ov it
    Aka Lord Luvaduck Gorblesshire, Guvner , Ingland )

  29. CBI: Firms must pay workers more http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25547574

    Really ? Paying a fair wage ? This guy must be a communist surely …tut tut…

  30. Just watched Shrek Forever After, I can’t be the only one who thinks Grant Shapps looks like Rumpelstiltskin.

    So, we didn’t get what we wanted for Christmas which was IDS choking to death on a mouth full of scrounged turkey but lets hope the New Year brings about a temper tantrum so violent he finally has the stroke he deserves. Or one of his armed guards points his machine gun in the right direction for once.

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  32. There are political parties that want to help us like the TUSC-but they only have 1% to 3% of the votes.

  33. as a disabled person i am waiting to be ordered to wear a yellow star and to be invited to take a shower.the similarities between this government and the nazi party of the 1940s are showing more and more each day

  34. DEAR DWP;

    IT’S NEARING THE START OF A NEW YEAR, THE DAWN OF 2014.

    ANY CHANCE OF AN UPDATE OF HOW MANY YOU HAVE KILLED AS A CONSEQUENCE OF YOUR HEINOUS, VILE, TWISTED POLICIES THAT DISCRIMINATE AGAINST THE DISABLED AND POOR IN OUR SOCIETY?

    I THOUGHT NOT!

    BUSINESS AS USUAL, THEN……………………

    WHO WILL BE NEXT?

    ONLY THE TABLOIDS WILL TELL, THAT IS, THE ONES YOU HAVE FAILED MISERABLY, TO KNOBBLE, THE ONES NOT DRIVEN TO DECEIVE BY CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND PEOPLE WITH POWER, THE MONEY MEN…………………

    ANOTHER DAY, ANOTHER HEADLINE, ANOTHER INDIRECT MURDER OF A CIVILIAN…………….

    THE WORLD IS WATCHING AND LISTENING.

    YOU MY DEAR FRIENDS, ARE UNDER THE SPOTLIGHT AND SHOULD BE CLINGING ONTO THE RAILS IN THE DOCK OF THE HIGHEST COURT IN THE LAND………..

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  36. Everyone please sign, only 14 days left to sign it, just got the info of the Keiser Report,
    http://basicincome2013.eu/

    The Unconditional Basic Income (UBI) is a recurring, universal payment to everyone – as an individual right, without means test or any obligation to work or perform other services in return, and high enough to ensure an existence in dignity and participation in society. The current social security systems are demeaning and inadequate in addressing the roots of poverty. UBI would transform social security from a compensatory system into an emancipatory system, one that trusts people to make their own decisions, and does not stigmatize them for their circumstances.

  37. pat
    …a ubi is vital for humanitarian progress in the 21st centuary…

  38. Jobseeker Warning

    “Actively seeking employment is considered over a complete benefit week. A benefit week is a period of seven days (including Sunday) which ends on the day you were told to sign on at the jobcentre to receive payments.”

    —- so says the Decision Maker

    So beware jobseekers that if you are found not to have been seeking work over the whole 7 day benefit week you will FAIL the Actively Seeking Employment test. And you can forget about NOT actively seeking work on Christmas Day and New Year’s Day while you at it!

    • Jobseeker Warning

      * unless there is a hidden regulation that allows exemption from actively seeking employment on Christmas Day and New Year’s Days because it is all about REGULATIONS!

    • Jobseeker Warning

      “In order to have the best chance of gaining employment a person is expected to have taken more than two steps in a week unless the decision maker decides that taking one or two steps in that week is all that is reasonable. There is no “magic number” of steps that will insulate a person from an argument that they are not ASE. The overriding test is whether the person, in the week in question took such steps as could be reasonably expected to be taken in order to have the best prospects of securing employment. A person can be held to have failed that test even if they took three steps in any given week.”

      —- Decision Maker

      “three steps a week” – you are having a laff!

    • Jobseeker Warning

      you were told to sign on at the jobcentre to receive payments.” means that if you sign-on on a Monday your benefit ending day is a Monday which also means that you should have recorded jobsearch activity for the day you SIGN-ON!

    • Jobseeker Warning

      Another thing, what evidence you produce at your sign-on appointment, joblog etc. counts for nothing, it is what the “adviser” types into the ASE stencil that the “decision” is based on. So for instance they can record that “you made no record of any jobsearch activity steps taken”.

      • something survived...

        this happened to me. And the time they said where is the evidence? I said in the job log, just read it. JCP scum: ‘I can’t be bothered, I’m not going to read it’. (their actual words) Puts down I’ve done nothing, and says they are raising a sanction doubt.

        Write: ‘Last week I rode a triceratops through town, since you told me to make my own transport arrangements. I went to your parents’ house, and sucked off your dad. He gave me £300 and said it was the best blow job he’d ever had. It’s on YouTube.’

        These fuckers either don’t read the job log that’s taken you all fortnight to write; or they pretend to read it. Then they say ‘there is nothing about looking for work here’. Proving they’ve not read it, since it’s about nothing else. As you’re so desperate not to be sanctioned, you filled it in correctly. Then they call you a liar/lazy, and sanction you anyway.

      • Happened to me too, as with somethingsurvived JCP never read the joblog, promptly binned it and filled out the ASE doubt stencil in order to raise a doubt. And guess what on the written statement of reasons it stated those very words “you made no record of any jobsearch activity steps taken”. btw if you are sanctioned always ask for a written statement of reasons – the ‘decision letter’ is not the same thing, the JCP try and trick you into thinking it is (statement of reasons already included with decision letter but it is NOT). The statement of reasons goes into in more detail and you can also deduce from it what the cunty adviser typed into the ASE stencil. DO NOT rely on a joblog, make sure you can produce evidence of ‘other job-seeking activity’ such as screen-shots from jobsites, correspondence with employers etc.

        • Just thinking: why aren’t these JCP scum ‘advisers’ sacked for this shit?

          • And what if a claimant is claimant is articulate, has learning difficulties, or maybe English isn’t their first language, how are they supposed to fight this shit. How many jobseekers are losing their benefits because of these underhand tactics. Something really needs to be done about this.

            • * claimant is inarticulate

            • too many. One would be too many, but it’s way more & set to get even worse (claimant commitments whenever they start to be ?phased in?). Have been told as pleasantly and sympathetically as it’s possible to imagine by a section manager just now that this is set to begin from February here… (i don’t know if this refers to new claimants or just people like me who are about to have their JSAgreements amended – again). They raised this in the context of shifting from ‘numbers of steps/jobs to be applied for’ to “How many hours/week do you think you spend job searching on average?” …

              … meanwhile, at the next desk, someone (a young person who was remaining very calm and appearing to want to give the ‘right’ sort of information to the adviser) was being berated for not having done 17 things between xmas and new year (just 9). They were made to sit & write out what steps they had taken before having them minutely picked apart while repeatedly being told “it isn’t enough”; “We need a written record” etc. It sounded very much like new information that was being give that suddenly – having been previously ‘accepted’ – no longer was, without any advance warning. And this mirrors my own (recent) experience. Goalposts changing every few weeks as more pressure is put on advisers to get more from us/meet whatever sad/misguided targets have been given to them. Even some managers tacitly acknowledge this. Anyone who is vulnerable in any way (along with anyone who might not think of themselves as being) is likely to be clobbered with a sanction at some point – if only by the law of averages. How can the majority of people meet these levels of conditionality on an ongoing basis? They can’t always manage it & any small mistake is being looked out to be pounced on. Manager’s insist this isn’t the case & they’re not all about trying to catch people out … as if they really believe it to be true.

              • As far as I am aware, this new CLAIMANT COMMITMENT, is for everybody on JSA.
                It is due to start being rolled out across the board from mid spring.
                It is causing real concern as the demands will probably be pretty difficult for ppl to follow.
                A lot of it also depends on the whim of each JSA advisor deciding what they think best for each individual claimant.
                For example, not every one will be asked to do 35 hrs job search. But even the demand for any actual hors per week could be fraught with difficulties, for how does one prove they have done this or that number of hours jobsearch?
                As for the story about folks not doing enough over Christmas, well, that is just unacceptable. How are plebs supposed to look for work to the degree they DWP want, when DWP know most recruitment of any kind doesn’t happen during this period? … This is quite deliberate, of course by DWP, merely in order to be able to sanction folks. It is also totally evil !

            • Gordon K,
              Agreed. It’s causing me consternation – definitely.
              Last week was the first time “number of hours spent job searching” has been raised directly with me – in the context of discussing an upcoming JSAg ‘review’ (a discussion lasting an hour and a half) …
              According the the manager i had my (pre-arranged) appointment with – CC’s are due to start being introduced from Feb. here, but they could have just been saying this – or i might be one of the (un)lucky ones to experience a CC sooner rather than later. i feel another trip to CAB coming on …is

              (Since having fought hard to not accept an unrealistically high number of steps/jobs to be applied for/week while opting not to use UJ, there’ve been repeated attempts to increase conditions/raise doubts in various ways – mainly to do with ‘presenting evidence’, and this time asking how many hours on average per day/week jobsearch gets done – so i know what’s up ahead, around the next bend). The steps are bad enough (ongoingly) but number of hours is worse & almost certainly more potential for them to be called into question/not ‘accepted’, whatever proofs we offer … They did at least ask me the number of hours rather than just randomly coming up with a number, so perhaps – in some cases anyway – we at least might get to start the bidding (though telling people 35 hrs will not surprise me depending on circumstances etc.). Even half of that (or 15 or 10) is going to be a nightmare to prove/keep up with. It’s so senseless it almost begins to make sense (as i seem to recall winston smith saying when they’d finally chewed him up and spat him out).

  39. I have no goodwill to scum like Duncan Shite; I wish only misery, sickness and curses on them. The man is lowlife scum, with absolutely no benefit for humanity whatsoever

    • something survived...

      Oh I can spare him some goodwill. May the lower half of his body meet with a steamroller. May he be tossed while still alive into a vat of hot sewage and boiled till dead.

      You see I can be nice….

  40. It’s now 2014 & I, for personal reasons have an aversion for years ending in “4″, some of my worst experiences in life have occured in “4″ years, at the moment I just want to bury myself until 2015. as I am already having bad feelings about 2014. my dearest hope is that this time I’m proved wrong but I can’t rid myself of this feeling of dread…

  41. Dr. Sigmund Freud (David Freud's Great Granddad)

    You, my dear, are suffering from teseraphobia

    • Yeah, and we all know that psychoanalysis is a load of hooey.

      • kc58
        alice miller and many others have a lot to say about sigmund freud…. http://www.theguardian.com/science/2010/may/31/alice-miller-obituary

        • Interesting read, seems like Freud clan have a habit of arrogantly overestimating their abilities.

        • obd

          If Alice miller did not believe in psycho analysis, how did she get the backgrounds of her subjects to ascertain that it was childhood traumatic experiences that mouldeth the man?

          • g fawkes
            she did not have subjects…
            psychoanalysis is passively listening to a persons story and passively regurgitating what is said and interjecting with advice and treatments to rectify the faulty thinking of the subject….alice miller did not see a faulty mind, but a mind traumatised by abuse in childhood, she was an instigator…listen to person get to the abuse events, get frozen feelings expressed at it, job done, cure caused, no need for “therapist” any more…person now free and independent to say to abusers, no! fcuk you, get lost…we don’t need armies of paid advisor’s/enforcers, sucking us dry….there are no jobs….know your human rights, to vitals of life…if they are truly not available to us, that is bad, how on earth did we get our selves into this mess, wot no food/shelter on planet earth for human beings, we’re done for, coz we need vitals or we perish, but please don’t bullshit us, it is insulting….”we worked hard for our lavish lifestyles, we deserve our wealth”… “but you have the wealth of a thousand people, did you do the work of a thousand people to get it?”…

        • Alice Miller was a cunt.

  42. I think it’s as clear as day and night that in all but spoken words the Tories are advocating legalised murder of the mentally and physically disabled and to a lesser degree the unemployed too. No matter how hard the Tories try to con us thinking this country is on the up we know differently, and soon we shall see how low a rich democratic country can plead poverty in order to sustain the template of capitalism which serves a minority as opposed to the majority of this country who are the cogs in the machinery.. the smoke and mirrors act they wheel out about the economy on the up and unemployed down is the biggest insult since the Tories came into power.

    Many people this last Christmas probably adopted a devil may care approach towards finance in order to give their kids a resemblance of a normal xmas with presents but this new year we shall see the price paid in order to do that with more debt stricken families seeking help. They say greed is good… it’s natural… it is actually a human shortcoming, an infliction of bad character, often born out of the fear of losing wealth because once you become wealthy the biggest fear of all is losing it and having to go back to rags… there are good rich people and they give much to charities and so forth but the greater percentage are merely arrogant, self-motivated towards the materialistic trapping of their lavish lifestyles and lose touch with the reality because they don’t live in reality as we do, that is why a Tory led coalition at this moment in time is the worst kind of government even if it may appear it’s the best choice of a bad bunch… it’s not.. it’s corrosive and it’s creating a compliant anodyne society.

    The biggest disaster come 2015 would be another four years of this, it’s so important to try and dissect the Tories out of any potential coalition or potential majority success in that year. No matter what happens between now and then it would never be enough time for this coalition to change, and of course they never can.. it’s in their DNA I call them the blue bloods and indeed it does lead all the way to Buckingham palace too.. their only saviour is they bring in tourism and money to the country, if that was not the case they too would need to go.

    I’m sure many people here in many different ways have been emotionally and/or physically affected by the hideous vanity project policies this Tory led coalition have made since sneaking in through the back to take up residence. Nobody wanted Cameron, he is there as a result of voting indecision by a majority of this country and that allowed the rich to get their man in and pave the way for blind eye tactics and policies that will always reward greed and power… it’s a case of … see the buildings in the city rise, see society fall.

    Too many people in government with no understanding of reality are making decisions that affect us all and care not for the fallout resulting from those decisions… many more will die… men, women and children.. starving, desperate, trying to hold on to what dignity still remains in their lives and maybe projecting a proud image whilst their hopes and dreams are tumbling like a castle built out of sand. And the Tories light up big fat cigars and open a bottle of the best, whilst waiting for their daily papers to arrive from being warmed in order to see what delusional mayhem they can spring on the poor and ill people of this country in 2014… one last throw of the dice before next years election… by that time what could be left of the country we called home?…. People’s pay becoming less and less and just being grateful they have a job, European immigrants entering and taking up employment for peanuts and undermining the economic rights of UK born employee’s to a fair and just wage, people on benefits losing what little they have… death, despair, hatred and hopelessness, more job losses, further dismantling of our NHS being slowly privatised in all but name, further draconian enforcement of slave labour for no pay and not being in any position to seek tangible employment for a proper wage.. Selling off more to countries like China so we lose even more of our identity as a country and as citizens… the pain is endless unless we stop it…… ladies and gentleman welcome to the Tory led Coalition for 2014.. more of the same and worse to come I’m afraid.

  43. European immigrants entering and taking up employment for peanuts and undermining the economic rights of UK born employee’s to a fair and just wage

    It’s the bosses doing that. This is now, more than ever, Not the time for false division(s)

    • There’s a report on Sky news about a Romanian guy landing at Luton who’s come here to wash cars, begs the question, don’t Romanians have the need for car washes? And also in the same report a Herefordshire fruit farmer claiming that eastern europeans have “a great work ethic unlike UK workers” Otherwise I can work them to their knees for peanuts unlike UK workers who’ll expect at least the minimum wage & of course I’m too greedy & selfish to even comprehend such a thing.
      What happened to british jobs for british workers as Gordon Brown famously announced? Camoron has overseen the giving away of what precious few british jobs left to any Tom, Dick & Harry who turns up on these shores, & then pushes the myth that the unemployed are “lazy” “feckless”, “job snobs” & whatever cliche the backroom boys can sum up on any given day. Karma can’t come a day too soon..

      • The real danger isn’t immigration into the UK from Romanians or Bulgarians but that a brain drain from Romania and Bulgaria will make things very much worse for native citizens of those countries; if doctors, nurses, chemists, engineers, dentists, pharmacists, surgeons and so on and so forth, whom poor countries like Romania and Bulgaria have paid small fortunes to train up to professional levels, leave their homeland to work in the UK, we gain and Romania and Bulgaria lose terribly both financially and commercially as some of their best qualified and most expert people migrate somewhere else.

        That’s the truth.

        • Taking your argument to it’s logical conclusion,what do all newly-qualified individuals in the UK , unable to find jobs due to a possible Romanian brain-drain, do? Move to Romania & hopefully find work there?

          • If they want to help others in a poorer country and take a pay cut, yes. Most often the traffic tends to move in the opposite direction. Romanian and Bulgarian professionals come here to earn more doing the same thing than they would in their homeland.

    • Thats bloody obvious…wtf would someone come here to deliberately lower wages…

  44. totally given up

    lets not forget that they will also need accomodation,landlords will have a heyday,i know mine will,they can charge more rent for more people,ie 4 in one flat instead of one four times the rent quids in,i live in an area already populated by polish so now come the rest fuck it time to go

  45. Swivel-eyed left Daily Mirror

    Employers have a right to employ those immigrating to the UK instead of the Daily Mail reading fascists. Let them be sanctioned because they refuse to work for a pittance.

  46. Benefits overpayments being targeted http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25576588

    DWP overpayment fines. And Lord Fraud finally admits that benefit fraud figures are quite low…after fucking ages of mass benefit scrounger scaremongering ..

  47. I don’t know what game the BBC is playing..fucking mike Sargent banging on about benefit fraudsters and how they operate and wreck the country ..and on BBC news site you get Lord Fraud admitting the fraud figures are low..

    I checked out select committee and the are roasting DWP over costs to do with universal credit .even a Tory roger bacon rips into them…

  48. totally given up

    i moved due to antisocial behaviour of my nieghbours i informed them the moment i got off the train,paid 20 quid in a phonebox in order to tell them,later i recieved a “civil penalty” of 100 pound for them overpaying me by 2,00 and not informing them “in a timely manner” i will be honest i cried,if ide have hit someone ide have got less…i dread these comming months and i know ultimatly i will take my life,but ide like to thank you guys on here you make me realise im not on my ownmim truly greatfull

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  50. ids is a fucking wanker i despise him karma is coming for that fat cunt!! and i cant wait.

  51. Hang IDS from a lamp post

    How can anyone believe a single word this proven lying bastard ever says!! Incompetent cunt.

  52. I can’t believe such a lovely guy as IDS has had death threats. How do I do a smiley face?

  53. Rachel Reeves in the recent food bank debate raised as an Opposition Day by Labour. Hansard, column 851 :

    ” While we all applaud and thank the food banks, the volunteers and the people who donate food, THAT IS NOT HOW OUR BASIC NEEDS SHOULD BE MET. The basic need for food should be met through WAGES AND A SOCIAL SAFETY NET WHEN IT IS NEEDED. The basic need for housing should be met by our wages or by a social safety net when it is needed. The basic need to be able to heat one’s home and turn on the lights should be met by having a decent wage or a social safety net when it is needed.”
    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201314/cmhansrd/cm131218/debtext/131218-0004.htm

    Reeves repeatedly uses the phrase “a social safety net when needed”. Labour isn’t “committed to the demolition of social security”.
    Some of other Labour MPs speeches from the foodbank debate, collected by Jack Monroe:
    http://agirlcalledjack.com/2013/12/20/what-they-really-said-at-the-foodbankdebate-spot-the-difference-between-mps-speeches/#comment-31638
    I watched it on Parliament TV and I don’t think they were being opportunistic – they were genuinely appalled by what’s going on in their constituencies.

    • findlow
      fine and true words by reeves..but she suffer the brunt of these cuts, would she be able to work as an mp if she did, no! imagining being in our shoes is NOT the same as being in them…turn the heating off in parliament and the lords. have a “choice” heat or eat…sorry, but due to austerity your salaries will now be £71/wk, new transport arrangements exist, pick up your bus passes and cycle clips on the way out….they decide who is in need, and that is what is wrong…

  54. Findlow

    That is why most of the labour party voted for the bedroom tax, for unemployment benefit to be changed to job seekers allowance etc etc.
    They are all in it together, the labour party just want to be elected.
    We should all be voting for the TUSC as an opposition party not New labour with their self serving middleclass elite destined to become cabinet leaders.

  55. Jon

    A hell of a lot of them voted for it that is how it got through parliament.

  56. over the last couple of days there have been stories in the media about unemployment causing mental distress, of course it does, but the reasons cited present an incomplete picture/story of the daily realities of people, who face the the plight of having no foreseeable future and this is the devastating impact on lives of human beings, in fact more people are “in work”, poverty than ever before…it is the desperate lack of decently paid work in our economy, which is showing no signs of abating and in fact getting worse on a daily basis, is the true cause of despair… m/t heroic stories of how a very few have “worked hard” to overcome unemployment, as if all can conjure up decently paid ethical jobs out of thin air.. these stories are.proof they exclaim that unemployment is bad for one’s health, and work is good for one.
    no!, what is bad for one is lack of access to resources that provide the basis of a decent income that meets our vital needs….work is the process of gathering up resources to meet our daily needs for the foreseeable future ie reliably and with certainty…it is uncertainty that causes emotional turmoil…in our economic structure this equates to money as an income, it is lack of access to money/mobility that limits our sense of certainty. in skara brea food shelter was easily found, so people made their livings and community there…we are not superbeing machines, that can magic up resources in the form as is to today decent ethical jobs and wages….jobs without wages abound…many decades ago @ 16 i had a choice of 4 apprenticeships there was no complacency in me, i wanted a future full of reliable vital resources, as do ALL, human beings…i obviously could only take one of these full time jobs on offer,i and worked hard, as is the way of the working classes, i did not need “work reading training”, as i AM WORKING CLASS, only a paid job with a foreseeable future…in paid work training…being unemployed/sick and disabled in a reasonably structured society is no more or less stressful than anything else we do, we would all rather be working, but we do not live in a reasonably structured society….stress frustration. however is caused when the immature and unrealistic expectations are dumped on us by fools, expecting the unemployed et al to conjure up wondrous abilities skills and jobs….we will always remain human beings despite the attempts of others to turn us into machines…

  57. PS I am not talking about the u turn bedroom tax vote, I am talking about the initial vote on bedroom tax whereby even if they voted against or abstained, they knew it would be lost because of the lib dems cow towing to the tories, but most of the New labour mp’s were for it.

  58. New labour under Blair and Brown were happy to hand council housing over to housing associations so that they could set the groundwork for the bedroom tax because of housing shortages. They should have been building more social housing not turning social housing sites into a mixture of private housing and part private part rental properties, they started all of this crap in the first place and I for one had stopped voting for labour long before Blair came to power.

  59. throw there class war back at them everybody please feel free to murder all tories ,bankers,english upper classes,kill,kill,kill the gloves are off ooh i forget strip the uk white middle classes of all finnancial and material wealth make them do hard labour for the rest of there lives ,lol,lol,lol

  60. damo

    They have already started this on “Emmerdale” where the economics graduate was forced to take a job as a male chambermaid lol. Most economic students study politics too so I would like to see all politicians being forced to do chambermaiding instead of being sat in Westminster as a so called opposition party, the same will apply to the tories and lib dems when I can get them on the dole too. Vote TUSC if they are fielding candidates in your area.

  61. something survived...

    it’s called chamberperson and I’ve done it. I lasted a couple of hours before being sacked

  62. something survived...

    I was presumably one of those whose benefit didn’t turn up at xmas.’ids-mas’. No special meal, fun activity etc.Was told to go to jcp on 30th. When I did get there thru floods the jcp before closing time shut me out and wouldn’t let me in, trying to get me sanctioned. they’d told me to go though there are no machines on and nobody was signing anyone on. i was told to go there to work on the jobpoints looking for jobs. they turned them all off and wouldn’t let me in. repeated on 31st. today said what happened, they said they wouldn’t sanction me. they aren’t paying me dole till late jan now! scum

  63. something survived

    You seem to have been victamized continuously by the dwp, why not take your case to the European courts (for a laugh if nothing else), you should be on sickness benefit with your illnesses.

  64. If only we could get atos workers sacked and told to work down the sewers, or the psychiatrists and psycho analysts cleaning toilets that would be a good start for a party worthy of election.

  65. @something survived -thanks for the tip about emoticons. Sorry to hear about your mistreatment at the hands of the JCP.
    Can’t believe such a lovely guy as IDS has received death threats. :D

  66. Something survived

    I am surprised the dwp didn’t get you fixed up as one of santa’s elves given your self proclaimed size, although you’ve got plenty of stature for the comments you make on this blog. :)

  67. Recovering Alcoholic Committed Suicide After Being Ordered To Prove He Was ‘Unfit For Work’ordered-prove-unfit-work/

    http://welfarenewsservice.com/recovering-alcoholic-committed-suicide-

  68. The man with 900 houses the BTL landlord who wants to kick out all benefit claimants from his properties. As mentioned in today’s guardian. ( 4/1/2013 )

    • Chewie

      Just watched the pilot show of the renegade economist – renegades my arse. They are the greens all in favour of renewable energies so that they can sink their capital into something new and become the new entrepreneurs and wealth creators. The latin american wanted us to form cooperatives as an antidote to predatory capitalism that owns all the prime land and businesses leaving little for cooperatives to work with other than poisioned land or non-profit making businesses.
      The best thing about renegade economist was the tootsie rollers.

  69. i just watched that video …vile…vile..just vile..this is the society so called that we now live in greed out of control,capitalisum gone mad…just vile

    • “Report reveals the new face of UK poverty”

      https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/01/04/pove-j04.html

      • excellent post Annos well said,

      • Annos

        I agree with the Joseph Rowntree foundations findings on poverty more than depressing and a little confusing.
        If poverty figures reveal the fraudulent nature of the living wage because two fifths of families in poverty earn more than the living wage, then there can be no such thing as a set living wage, especially when you figure in housing costs which vary from city to city and the availability or desirability of housing being out of reach of people whether in or out of work.

        The final sentence “What CANNOT be said is that this means putting an end to government of by and for the super rich and fighting for socialism.
        Surely this is what can be said not cannot.

  70. ITS NOW A NEW YEAR AND THE FALLOUT (DEATHS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DUE TO DWP POLICIES), HAS ALREADY ENCROACHED INTO THIS NEW DAWN…………..

    THE QUESTION ON EVERYBODY’S LIPS IS,

    “HOW LONG WILL THIS INDIRECT MURDER OF OUR CITIZENS CONTINUE?”

    POLITICIANS TURN A BLIND EYE, AS DO THE MEDIA AFTER BEING INSTRUCTED BY THEIR PAYMASTERS

    OUR POLICE FORCES HAVE BEEN BRIEFED ON A POLICY OF IGNORANCE AND THE EUROPEAN COURTS OF JUSTICE SEEM TO PLAY ALONG HAPPILY WITHOUT GETTING INVOLVED.

    YET THESE PEOPLE WHO DISAPPEAR AT WILL FROM OUR STREETS ARE REAL FLESH AND BLOOD. IT SEEMS AS IF THE BRITISH PUBLIC HAVE BEEN HYPNOTISED INTO THINKING THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE EXPENDABLE DUE TO BEING ON BENEFITS.

    DIVIDE AND RULE POLICIES FAVOURED BY OUR GOVERNMENT SEEM TO MAKE THE WANTON MURDER OF OUR DISABLED AND POOR A CREDIBLE ALTERNATIVE, BUT A CRIDIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT, I MAY ASK?.
    SHOULD THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE, AND I MEAN THOUSANDS, BE TOLERATED FOR THE SIMPLE PLAN OF DOCTORING UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES?.

    WHEN WILL ALL THE LYING AND DECEIT STOP?

    WHEN WILL THE BUTCHERY OF THESE PERSONS, START TO BE INVESTIGATED?

    BUT MOST OF ALL, WHEN WILL THE TYRANTS WHO GAVE THE THUMBS UP TO THESE ATROCITIES, BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE?.

    OUR BELOVED QUEEN, THE BIGGEST SCROUNGER IN THE REALM, SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED FOR GIVING THE “ROYAL SEAL OF APPROVAL”, TO THE WELFARE REFORM ACTS THAT ARE DECIMATING THE WELFARE OF HER LOWEST SUBJECTS……..

    SHE DOES NOT GIVE A TOSS ABOUT WHATS HAPPENING IN THE REAL WORLD, EVEN HER CHRISTMAS SPEECH ERRED ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND FAILED MISERABLY TO HIGHLIGHT THE STATE OF BRITAIN ON HER WATCH………………………

    …………..NEVER MIND, NO DOUBT THE WELL CONCEALED WILL CONTINUE TO BE LOST AMID THE FURORE OF A RECOVERING ECONOMY, AN ECONOMY THAT NEEDS TO THRIVE BY MAKING CERTAIN THE POOR ARE SHAFTED TO APPEAR TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

    TALK OF DEATH THREATS AGAINST IAIN DUNCAN SMITH, NEVER!!!

    THE BASTARD SHOULD BE DRAGGED THROUGH OUR STREETS AND STONED AND KICKED, HUNG TILL HALF DEAD AND THEN QUARTERED IN PUBLIC AND HIS BODY FED TO THE RAVENS.

    THIS IS NOT A MAN, THIS IS AN EVIL PSYCHOTIC MURDERER WHO PLEASURES FROM THE DISTRESS OF OTHERS…………..

    I WOULD PULL THE TRIGGER WILLINGLY AND THERE ARE MILLIONS WHO WOULD DO LIKEWISE…………

    THIS FETID, PILE OF SHIT, DESERVES NO LESS THAN THE NAZIS AT NUREMBERG,

    ………………AND SO SAY ALL OF US!

  71. i read the guardian article on this couple the wilsons [900 property landlords] good god unbelievable evecting 200 people becouse there on benefits vile just vile cunt scum landlords like the foul couple have made there millions by houseing peole on benefits and chargeing the maximum rents for wot is in most cases unenhabitable hovels just like the one i live in were my landlord charges the max hb regardless of the chronic damp and reocuring cheast infections i get but wot chouise do we have there are no real world jobs out there paying a liveing wage esp not in london .there will be a special place in hell for this couple and there like…..

  72. ………..and yet the British government are insisting that the Libyan government, hunt down the killers of a British man shot dead in a seaside resort in Libya,demanding a thorough investigation…………..

    …..and yet the same government, choose to overlook the thousands of victims lost to the MURDERING DWP POLICIES, yet the perpetrators are already known……………..

    STRANGE, BUT TRUE, DEATHS OF BENEFIT CLAIMANTS GO UNNOTICED????

  73. ………….STRANGER STILL………….

    WHY DO OUR LAWLORDS RESTRICT THE RIGHTS OF A PERSON TO END THEIR LIFE IF THE QUALITY BECOMES UNBEARABLE, YET OPENLY ENCOURAGE THE DWP TO ADMINISTER WELFARE POLICIES THAT DRIVE MANY TO SUICIDE?????

  74. …………the reasons are readily apparent.

    On the global scene, we have to be recognised as setting precedents for the world to follow, whereas domestically, at home, fuck the disabled and poor, what’s a few bodies to massage the unemployment figures………………………..

  75. Geoff we are being ignored because we are on benefits, which means we have no valued identity in their greedy consumerist books. Because we do not join in the consumer society [ that this country is so desperate for people to do right now] We have devalued identity and in the Governments books we do not exist. They have made the people of this country blind and greedy. All they care about is people working and buying, working and buying, working and buying. Us poor ol fuckers that have become ill or just can not get a job are not part of this robotic charade. We are left out and forgotten about. Will we ever be able to get back on this merry go round now?

  76. Hi overburdend

    Thank god there are still people who care for humanity. The world is going so mad. Greed and corruption everywhere. Never did I think our country would go this far down the garden path of allowing such a Authoritarian Dictatorship to cowardly scapegoat and denigrate the poor and sick in our land.

  77. THE DREADED “BEDROOM TAX” IS AFFECTING SO MANY PEOPLE, YET THE GOVERNMENT ARE HELL BENT ON REFUSING TO ACCEPT THE TITLE, AND PREFER TO CALL IT “SPARE ROOM SUBSIDY”.

    ………..strangely there seems to be no mention of any such subsidy within legislation or benefits prior to April 2013.

    DWP have been challenged to explain where the so called subsidy came from and are doing all they can to block freedom of information on the subject…………..
    THIS BRINGS TO LIGHT, THE LEGALITY OF THE BEDROOM TAX………

    WHY ARE THEY SO AFRAID OF ANSWERING A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST???

    …………COULD IT BE THAT THE, “SO CALLED SPARE ROOM SUBSIDY”. IS A FIGMENT OF LIES DREAMED UP BY A THINK TANK TO FURTHER PUNISH POOR HOUSEHOLDERS?

    THE FOI IS AVAILABLE HERE:

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/spare_room_subsidy#outgoing-316141

  78. IF LORD FRAUD HAS SPECIFIED THAT ONE BILLION POUNDS IS BEING DEFRAUDED EACH YEAR IN BENEFITS………………………….

    WHY IS IT THAT THE DWP HAVE ANNOUNCED THAT SIXTEEN BILLION POUNDS WORTH OF BENEFITS LAY UNCLAIMED DURING 2013…….

    WHO IS DEFRAUDING WHO?

    ………..IF THE DWP KNOW THEY HAVE SHORT CHANGED CLAIMANTS OF THIS VAST AMOUNT, THEY MUST KNOW WHO WAS ENTITLED TO IT IN THE FIRST INSTANCE FOR THEM TO DO THE MATHS……………..

    I MAKE THIS 15 BILLION THAT THEY HAVE DEFRAUDED FROM LEGITIMATE CLAIMANTS!

  79. In an answer to a freedom of information request regarding the DWP and it’s understanding of disability discrimination………….

    In response, I can advise that the government are legally obliged to uphold the Disability
    Discrimination Act and Human Rights Laws.

    If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number above.

    Yours sincerely,

    DWP Business Management Team
    Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    …………………….why do they give this answer, but continue to breach every Disability Discrimination, Equality and Human Rights Laws?

  80. This is something that I do not understand at all, if UK is one of the wealthiest countries then what is the fucking point in cutting benefits just so rich MPs can line there pockets with even more UNNEEDED money? The sick/disabled that are on benefits are on benefits for a reason, the reason being that they would find it hard to get by without them. We are not rich like these toffee-nosed wankers. Almost everything these days is all about making money. What is the fucking point?!? Money isn’t important.

  81. You are quite correct in the fact the “spare room subsidy” didn’t exist. I wrote to UN complaining about that, back in summertime. Still waiting a reply,
    There was no such thing as a spare room subsidy. It was HOUSING BENEFIT. And that was it. It was the local authority that decided in many cases where a person was put, and if it meant they gave person two rooms, that was council’s own rules.
    The REGIME of NEW NAZIS, know full well, most ppl have nowhere to go. As for Nicholas Clegg, D.Alexander, Menzies Campbell and the rest of the evil traitors to democracy… it cannot come soon enough for every one of them to be wiped out at election time.

    As for the “Queen of England” (I always use that little Americanism, ‘cause I don’t consider her my queen in the 1st place,)…..once upon a time, when I was a little bit younger, and a little bit more innocent, I used to like the idea of monarchy. I would still be in favor of some form of it, even, but, but…..when I see the queen of UK, allowing this evil satan worshipping REGIME to get away with what it is doing…knowing she has both the powers and more importantly, the influence to do something about it, then I no longer have any time for her whatsoever now.
    Constitutional monarch she may well be, but Tony Benn and his lot don’t care about that . They don’t care either about “privilege” and neither do I care about privilege in that sense, there will always be those with a certain privilege in life. What Benn cares about is that the monarch in UK really does have powers. The fact this present one chooses not to use them, doesn’t wash with the likes of Tony Benn. What if some one comes along who does want to use those powers? Where then lies democracy? That is their concern.

    My concern though is that in choosing not to even so much as exert even a little influence, laying aside any real or imagined powers, by signing everything put before her, by “her” prime ministers, regardless, she not only does a herself no favors, but allows the destruction of the society she is supposed to help maintain.

    How long will all these needless deaths go on for? We do not know, but I am sure the ground is stirring.
    When this new “CLAIMANT COMMITMENT” comes, April, the conditions will be so extra-ordinary, practically no one will be able to go along with it.
    As for the party that used to be “Labour” they don’t appear to be doing much real opposing. We wonder why?
    When the ppl see no hope, no real, genuine alternative…well, it’s anyone’s guess what transpires. And it tends to be something called “chaos”

  82. Arthritis WAS considered a disability on the Equality Act 2010. No such disability of this ridiculous kind exists now!!. Nonsense !! arthritis is all in the mind, and never was a chronic condition. Atos phoney docters have never heard such rubbish in their lives. This government have dismantled the Equality Act and taken away human rights on purpose.

    Your right Geoff, the smarmy dangerous idiots have changed the names to every benefit entitlement that ever existed to its rightful claimants. They say bedroom tax subsidy like they have just dished out another generous discount of some kind. Bollocks!!! this is to cover insidious abuse. ABUSE that the general public will not recognise. Council Tax reduction is another one. Its is sickens me, the evilness of it. Reduction!!!! BOLLOCKS!!!

  83. DHSS Department of HEALTH and Social Security- changed to
    DSS Department of Social Security-Changed to
    DWP Department of Work and pensions

    DLA Disability Living Allowance -Changed to
    PIP Personal Independent Payment, [your be lucky to get it mind].
    ABOLISHED all
    Incapacity Benefits – Changed to
    ESA Employment Support Allowance (to be taken off you totally in due course} Sooner or later.

    Housing Benefit -
    Spare room subsidy aka Bedroom Fucking Tax

    Council Tax Benefit ABOLISHED!!!!
    Council Tax reduction scheme – {Your be billed a beastly amount still, followed by court case and court costs if you do not pay as they. DEMAND} “we want that pittance of reduced benefits of 71 a week we a giving you, we want it back”
    So we end up with sweet fuck all really!

    It all ends up at a Food Bank. They are turning us into beggars. That’s what they think we are now, and they laugh about this.

    Slavery is the norm now. Workfare.

    What happened about care for peoples Health and Social Security? Why change the name then? To change disability is disgusting.

    • jasmine
      it is all about them controlling/restricting access to justice,(see pavlovs dogs et al)…barriers to justice are set up. the WCA is a barrier to justice, as is the Disability Discrimination Act and Human Rights Laws, hard faced lcovering what is seen, or in view, and can be emotionally expressed, by the sick and disabled and non sick and disabled…the sick and disabled are already short of physical energy, emotional energy, income energy, very likely information energy and truth energy from others …physical demands placed on one, quickly become emotional demands when the “wall” lack of physical energy is reached ie emotional will power to push one’s self physically to get benefits etc….to get access to justice in the uk one needs 5 main things….economic energy, emotional energy, information energy, truth energy and physical energy…

  84. totally given up

    yet another name to the atos murder list sean pilkington 58 shot himself after losing his esa and benefit..rip mister pilkington..how many more

  85. Benefits Street.

    Channel 4 – 9:00pm Monday 6th January.

    This documentary series reveals the reality of life on benefits, as the residents of one of Britain’s most benefit-dependent streets invite cameras into their tight-knit community.

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/benefits-street

  86. Also recently disappeared -

    Statutory help for people on a low income towards the cost of school uniform/s (it wasn’t a huge sum but it would go towards shoes or part of uniform). The letter sent out about this ‘change’ did not mention ‘this is being scrapped’, was very vague & used various euphemisms. Essentially it said that council can no longer see a way to fund this help but there might be other help out there … and alluded to charity in whatever form as the new ‘non-government’ form of assistance。

    School meals now to be allegedly offered (free) to all children up to a certain age – every child regardless of parental income. Above that age though, older children (who have growing dietary requirements) from families low, but not quite as low as is possible, incomes, will not be entitled to a paid meal at school ,,,

    Up until around 3 years ago, a back to work grant existed which was for lone parents/single income households, that effectively helped with the transition from being out of work to starting a new job with all the costs incurred. Arguably, equally essential for anyone starting back to work but it at least existed and was a great help/idea. This is now gone (not even renamed, just gone) around 18 months ago, along with crisis loans/help towards costs of essentials for work – clothing allowances (-)\ etc, etc.

  87. Obi

    If these programmes are not knocking benefit claimants they are then patronizing them or encouraging them to do voluntary community work for nothing.
    Cameron on Andrew Marr show telling how he has been generous to pensioners as opposed to others on benefits which he discriminates against. He is only giving to pensioners because they are the largest voting block, many are wealthy in their own right and don’t even need a state pension so is again giving more to the rich, and as care homes take 90% of inmates pensions to pay extortionate fees he is giving a leg up to his mates who own care homes.
    Due to my mother being in a care home, my father has had his and my mothers share of their matrimonial home separated and tried to write a will leaving his share of the house to his children.
    The robbing solicitor told my father that she would only separate their joint ownership if he left his share of the home to his wife who is in care.
    The state not only has my mothers share, they also want my father’s share too even though he would kill himself before being put into a home, seeing how my mother lives.

  88. ps

    What chance have the sick got in arguing their case for not being forced back to work, when the likes of Andrew Marr after having a stroke and being paralysed down one side happily shows how it is possible to be sick, disabled and still work,( providing your not a manual worker of any kind that is) but these middle class people in their middle class sit down jobs have no comprehension of how the working class are able to carry on regardless of illness.yet they vote in accordance with their own lives on how policies are formed not our lives.

    • It’s OK for the likes of Andrew Marr, all he has to do is sit & read off an autocue. it’s a lot different for the likes of my ex (a qualified electrician) who also had a stroke last year. It’s left him with a paralysed hand, memory loss, & balance problems.There’s no way he could do any work, he certainly wouldn’t be covered by any employers insurance.Can you imagine someone with a useless hand trying to stack shelves in Poundland? Fortunately thanks to the intervention of a mental health team, (he was also left with severe depression), he has now been put on to a higher rate of ESA.
      So those who sit in judgement of the sick & disabled, take no account of individual circumstances, & arrogantly believe that “it could never happen to them” when none of us know what nasty surprises could just around the corner.

  89. “Exporting Grandma to Care homes abroad”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25438325

    The world gone mad….

  90. Annos

    The world truly has gone mad, to say that the elderly are better cared for abroad where there are no safeguards to guarantee that this will be the case, with relatives being unable to visit due to distance and the fact that the resident has dementia and could not tell anybody about whether their care is good or bad, is just plain stupidity.

    • g fawkes
      yeah, we live in a vast populaced global economy, ripe pickings for an “enterprising” mind devoid of morals, when in order to make money anything goes…30yrs of “enterprise” schemes, to mitigate the loss of proper jobs, have gotten us here…older generations of business people and older generations per se, would shudder at today’s antics..

  91. Annos

    Tell me someone who does not yet know that the BBC is on the side of Murdoch and mad ministers. Their director general is hand picked to televise the propaganda of right wing parties and is well paid for doing the job no matter how short their term in office.

    • I was on my computer the other night, the tv was on, the program/ documentary that was on was about World War II and I heard this…”Lord Halifax was appalled by the Nazi regime”….That is a LIE.

      “In 1936 Halifax visited Nazi Germany for the first time. Halifax’s friend, Henry (Chips) Channon, reported: “He told me he liked all the Nazi leaders, even Goebbels, and he was much impressed, interested and amused by the visit. He thinks the regime absolutely fantastic.”

      http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/2WWhalifaxL.htm

      They even try to change history to make themselves look good.

      Many in the Houses of Parliament FULLY supported EVERYTHING Hitler was doing, the ONLY reason most of them turned against him and went to war was the realisation that he could not be controlled, he was a loner and they found out (nearly too late) that he intended to put them up against a brick wall when the opportunity presented itself, It goes to show how insane some of them were/are, even known that, some like Halifax and Edward VIII still wanted to throw their lot in with Hitler, you see, this is what the working class does NOT understand, these people are 100% fanatical in keeping their hold over power and money, the greatest insight into thier insane minds was told to us by such as the fanatical far right winger Benito Mussolini…”Better to live one day as a lion, than a lifetime as a sheep.”

      Trust nothing the mainstream media tell you, NOTHING!!!.

      • annos
        the 1st thing they do, is to stop/block all avenues of rebellion, block opposing voices, hitler did it with a gradual purposeful deprivation, of resources, to starve opposition of all protest energy….

      • Annos

        They have rewritten history of the welfare state, if you send for one of their free educational packages on the subject you will find it is distorted and distances itself from the real facts of it’s inception, the BBC say that it was a universal benefit for all when it knows that it was only universal when in need not in greed.
        Universities are also churning out rubbish as facts to it’s students.

        • g fawkes
          the romans did it, pol pot used the yr 0, did it, hitler did it, all an attempt to wipe out their own personal histories. an interesting read, “The Ignorance or How we produce the Evil” blog, by alice miller

          • obd

            Although I agree with some of what Alice miller has written I can’t agree with all of her conclusions on those that I have read, nevertheless she was groundbreaking in her field, but she was in the psychiatric field nevertheless.
            I am waiting for someone to write a book on parents abused by children or when can we divorce a child like they can divorce a parent :)

            • g fawkes
              imo psychiatrist’s should grow in maturity to see the label of psychiatrist as incidental, in favour of the predominance of humanity….in that sense alice miller rejected the culture of psychiatry, and acknowledge that it has painted its self into a corner…she was not however an anti-psychiatrist, rather she knew it had lost its way and is buried in/by cultural dogmas…she was keen not to be tarred with the same brush as the reputation of psychiatry has now evolved into…psychiatry should have remained an art, its adventure into a pure science, is a failure…. psychiatrist dr bob johnson had the same spat with the authorities at parkhurst prison, which is why he became known as dr bob…kids, who’d have ‘em ‘eh…

        • “History will be kind to me for I intend to write it.”

          Winston Churchill

      • The Queen Mother, an evil old cow on a par with Thatcher, also supported the nazis, a fact that has been conveniently swept under the carpet.

    • I have put this on before, so for those who missed it the last time.

      http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=14556&page=73

  92. Did anyone see the big question programme following the Andrew Marr show, it’s a pity, even though it had Owen Jones on, that we did not get the big answers.

  93. Hi everyone
    This is the snakes in suits getting in everywhere now. Deception every where you look on the welfare state. It has been bombed totally, with casualties. Perhaps the Gov would just call this a bit of collateral damage to their wonderful polices that really are going to’ change people’.

    A key trait of the psychopath is to always make people think the evil is comming from someone else.

    I am going to read this link overburdend

  94. Overburdend
    Yes this link does say it all, and so do the comments of the people. When is this vile abuse going to stop? Or are these greedy, ignorant mp pigs going to carry on robbing the poor and claiming expenses for their duck houses etc. etc. I’ve been feeling really angry again lately,

  95. I have heard a rumour from a reliable source (100% reliable).. this friends friend turned 100 so she got a card from the queen, However you may feel about the queen.. But she also got one from Iain Duncan Smith.. and apparently she wasnt impressed at all.. (i said to my source well it was probably a letter to say get off the dole and get a job or she will be sanctioned)..

  96. IT USED TO SAY, “R I P”, ON GRAVESTONES………………………………

    NOW IT SAYS “D W P”…………………………..

    WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT, THE DEPARTMENT OF WORKS AND PENSIONS, LIFTED THE GUN TO SHAUN PILKINGTONS HEAD.

    ……..AN OUT OF CONTROL STATE KILLING MACHINE USED FOR THE SIMPLE PURPOSE OF FALSIFYING THE UNEMPLOYMENT COUNT…..

    MURDERERS SPONSORED BY THE QUEEN……………

  97. In less than 18 months Parliament will be dissolved (sadly not in a vat of acid) and IDS will, for the brief period of the election, find himself no longer a minister or even an MP but an ordinary citizen no longer entitled to armed guards provided at the taxpayers’ expense. If he wants police protection he will have to proove there is a real threat to his life and if he’s just a snivelling coward he’ll have to hire (or more likely scrounge) private rentathugs, who are expressly forbidden to carry offensive weapons in this country. During the election Smith will be fair game for any potential voter who wishes to approach him. May I suggest someone follows him everywhere in a grim reaper costume.

  98. preferably with a tape measure so that the the right size cold slab can be provided down at the mortuary.

  99. the filthy stinking backwards inbreed parasite vermin that is the royal family and the english upper class were allways nazi sympathisers .i watched the news this morning osbourne is going to slash another 25billion from the welfare system people are dying now theaes tory fucks and the slithering vile middle class new labour uni fuckends dont reolise is that were not all born with a silver spoon up our areses some people actualy have to work for a liveing and theaes two groups of cunts over the last 35 years have fucked up and destroyed this country…there are no jobs not real ones we have no industry left wot the industry of this country now is selling and renting fucking property..wot the fuck has happened to this country

  100. “Patient data to be collected from GPs”

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25588544

    I think this is for the benefit of the health insurance industry!, getting itself ready for the privatisation of the NHS and tied into denying people health insurance and denying people when they come to make a claim by using the get out clause “pre-existing condition” and “hereditary condition” which will not be covered by people’s health insurance policies. Many people will think they are covered, they will find out double quick when they make a claim that they were not covered!!!.

  101. The terms of the Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011 mandate that the next General Election will be held on 7 May 2015.

    That’s 17 month’s and one day away.

  102. Roaul Moats solution for IDS

    I’ve been reading the various accounts of people committing suicide after ATOS have thrown them off benefits. In particular the former game keeper that shot himself.

    Don’t you realise ladies and gentlemen that this actually is what IDS and Cameron want you to do… they must crack open a bottle of vintage champagne each and everytime this happens and have a good hearty tory boy laugh… another one off the welfare etc and another house freed up for cheapo slave labourers from the EU.

    Now if you are so desperate to feel that suicide is the answer then I let me suggest that you polish up your sawn-off shotgun and pay a visit to IDS or his wife and lay in wait and the same medicine for the head of ATOS and give them a doubled barreled blast.

    IDS won’t be able to cough off that. …. come on … do it!”!

    • They Want You DEAD!!

      Just heard Max Keiser (who obviously reads the Void :-) Hello Max :-) *waves* ) on RT commenting that a lot of people in the UK feel like the “government wants them dead”, “that this coalition would prefer it if you just went and topped yourself”

  103. The DWP mortality statisticians must be asking to work evenings and weekends to keep up with the rising deaths associated with their department and its role with ATOS………………..

    Have you noticed how the deaths are escalating as the welfare cuts start to bite?

    This is just the beginning, wait till the shit hits the fan and the deaths seem to be an everyday occurrence……………..

    ………….and yet the odious politicians claim there is no link, therefore the line of coffins that stretch for over a mile and three quarters, must be down to the inclement weather we are facing…………….

  104. EVERYONE MUST BE WONDERING, HOW MANY WELFARE CUTTING RELATED DEATHS ARE DOWN TO THE KING OF CLOWNS, DUNCAN SMITH?

    MONEY WASTED ON THE UNIVERSAL CREDIT FIASCO HAVE TAKEN LIFE AFTER LIFE, YET THE MINISTRY OF SILLY WALKS CONTINUES TO PERSECUTE THE DISABLED AND POOREST WHILST FUNDING THE “GREATEST CIRCUS SHOW ON EARTH”…………………..

    ONE MANS DREAM HAS BECOME ANOTHER MANS COFFIN……….

    COMMITTEE’S TRY TO HIDE THE INCREDIBLE AMOUNTS OF MONEY WASTED, NOT BATTING AN EYELID AS THE MORTALITY STATISTICS GO THROUGH THE ROOF……………………..

    WHAT GIVES ANY PERSON THE RIGHT TO SQUANDER, WHILE THOSE AROUND HIM ARE FORCED TO TAKE THEIR OWN LIVES?????

    IT COULD ONLY HAPPEN IN THE CIRCUS CAPITAL OF EUROPE, THE UK!

    ……….THERE ARE NO WORDS THAT COULD EVER DESCRIBE THESE ACTIONS.

    HAD ANIMALS DIED, I AM SURE THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN AN UPROAR, BUT TO SEE HUMAN BEINGS BUTCHERED TO SATISFY THE DREAMS OF A PSYCHOTIC DESPOT, IS SURELY BEYOND BELIEF?

    …………..HISTORY WILL DEFINE HIM AS A COLD, CALCULATING KILLER, BUT WHAT OF THE POLITICIANS WHO SEEK TO HIDE THIS?
    THEY ARE AS GUILTY AS THE MAN HIMSELF, AIDING AND ABETTING SOMEONE TO TAKE A LIFE IS WORSE THAN ACTUALLY DOING IT……..

    MEANWHILE, OUR POOREST STARVE, LIVES ARE LOST, FOODBANKS ESCALATE AND THE INSATIABLE WALLET OF AN IDIOT, FOOLISHLY TOPPED UP!

  105. Let’s have a look at how other nations deal with the problems. This is about the Norwegian Social Insurance Scheme (in English): http://www.regjeringen.no/upload/AD/publikasjoner/veiledninger_brosjyrer/2013/Engelsk_2013.pdf.
    £1=NKR 10.

  106. When I first rejected to join UJM, my advisor told me that “it wasnt there to catch me out”, he already knew what I was thinking and tried to convince me otherwise, but he obviously just confirmed my suspicions by mentioned what he did, it was all too dubious. Stay away from UJM or at the very least, do not allow your advisors to have access and untick the box.

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  108. The bigger picture …
    Since the economy has gone tits over arss and the big cats have frauded too much money out of a world wide treasurey cause lets face it its dreadful nowadays being a millionaire not like itused to be so trillionaire was the trend …True mr. Fat cat you did jail the man you held responsable but he i fear was a scapegoat.
    Now you all DO NOT PAY TAX but give to charity which you all have declined to give as much …as a result our tv’s constantly give us brutal images o
    Now you are creating propergand to take away your responsabilitys towards society just in ethics this is I feel what mr. Fat cat isnt understanding of is that you cant just turn back the clock 300yrs to hide your criminal behaviour people are dying , we understand you sooooi dont care about that after all your scedual is so tight

    f dying kids, animals ect ect begging for cash we are acosted in the street maybe 4 times a day by charities begging for cash we cant even shop without people at the end of our till insisting to pack our bags for money for one cause or another.

    • Had so many problems posting this ..hope you can get your heads round it …

      • IN AN EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW CORRUPT THE DWP HAVE BECOME IN THE HIRING OF A RENEGADE COMPANY, ATOS, I WILL QUOTE THE FOLLOWING TWO STATEMENTS.

        BOTH ARE BY HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS HIRED BY THE DWP…………..

        05 JUNE 2007.
        JULIE SIMPSON, HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL.

        PROGNOSIS;
        I ADVISE THAT THERE IS UNLIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE PRESENT MEDICAL CONDITION OR THE FUNCTIONAL EFFECTS IN THE LONGER TERM.

        JUSTIFICATION OF ADVICE;
        THE INFORMATION ON FILE INDICATES NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE SINCE THE LAST EXAM.
        THE CLIENTS LEVEL OF DISABILITY IS UNLIKELY TO VARY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE.
        ………………………………………………………………………………

        10 JULY 2012.
        EMMA BRODRICK. ATOS HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL.

        ZERO POINTS AWARDED.

        FUNCTIONAL PROBLEMS.
        I ADVISE THAT A RETURN TO WORK COULD BE CONSIDERED WITHIN 3 MONTHS.
        ………………………………………………………………………………

        …………..and just to show the hippocracy of the DWP once again………..
        06 November 03.
        Dr. j. Rickinson.

        Condition is unlikely to improve.

        12 September 95.
        Dr. R. Colman.

        No significant change anticipated.

        19 September 95.
        Mr, A. Heaten.
        Adjudication officer.
        Incapable of all work.

        ………………………………………………………………………………

        Everybody has a right to require the DWP to furnish them with all the information that they hold.

        I would not have the records above, to fight my case, had i not requested them……………

        THREE ENVELOPES ARRIVED, THE FILES THEY HELD ON ME WERE OVER 7 INCHES DEEP.

        WHY DON’T YOU REQUEST YOURS TODAY?
        “ALWAYS SEND THE REQUEST IN WRITING, RECORDED, AS THEY WILL INSIST THEY NEVER RECEIVED IT OTHERWISE…….
        Reply

      • THOUGHT THE READERS WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS ARTICLE ABOUT ATOS AND THE DWP GOVERNMENT CONTRACT, AND HOW IT WAS BROKERED TO CHEAT THE DISABLED OF THEIR MEAGRE PITTANCE OF BENEFITS ON WHICH THEY RELY, SO MUCH……………………………….

        http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree…

        Leaked data suggests the Department for Work and Pensions is holding Atos to extremely tight tolerances. Photograph: Janine Wiedel Photolibrary/Alamy
        Ask Atos, the company responsible for executing the work capability assessment (WCA), or the Department for Work and Pensions, which defines how the WCA is conducted, and they will tell you that they have no targets for the number of people who pass. Yet a new report from the Centre for Welfare Reform, How Norms Become Targets, uses a leaked set of Atos data to suggest that the DWP is holding Atos to extremely tight tolerances on its results.
        Atos and the DWP admit to the existence of “statistical norms” and that these are used to manage the performance of individual healthcare professionals carrying out the assessments. Campaigners have long claimed that these norms function as de facto targets, but were surprised by the detail of the data logged and matched against acceptable ranges. Not only are there figures for overall numbers of people awarded the points needed to qualify for the employment and support allowance (ESA), figures also exist for individual prognoses, for the points awarded, even for the word count of the summary findings. And each Atos region is expected to stray no further than 20% from the national average.
        Combining any data-gathering system with pressure to meet expectations will drive staff to converge on the “official” numbers; norms will become de facto targets, and no manager wants to be forced to justify their region’s figures. Unfortunately pressure to meet expectations is exactly the process described to the Guardian by Atos whistleblower Dr Greg Wood, who went public after being repeatedly asked to change assessments, including at least one case that conflicted with his professional medical opinion.
        Whether the Atos data represents targets, as the CWR report suggests, or norms, as Atos insists, the numbers themselves are deeply problematic. An assessor is expected to see about 40 people per week, 65% of whom, the data shows, are expected to fail the assessment. The remainder will be split between the ESA support group (14.5%) and the work-related activities group (20.5%). Those who pass, in either group, are then further divided across five sub-groups, which specify whether an applicant should be expected to recover in six-24 months or “longer term” (in practice three years). Only 2.6% of WCAs are expected to result in a “longer-term” prognosis, which effectively means an assessor can allocate the prognosis to just one person a week; allocating a single extra person across a month hovers on breaching the allowed 20% variation. All other applicants, no matter their disability, are labelled as expected to have recovered within two years or less.
        This suggests an explanation for some of the stranger Atos rulings, where people with lifelong or degenerative disabilities have been told their conditions are expected to improve in six months. Any assessor struggling to keep down their average for longer-term prognoses has to be tempted to assign a shorter prognosis instead. Someone with a long-term disability should theoretically face an assessment once every three years, but if they are consistently assigned to the six-months prognosis group, they will potentially face not one but six assessments in that period.
        Similar problems exist for points awarded during the assessment. The “descriptors”, if matched, are worth six, nine or 15 points, and many disabled people will match multiple descriptors. It takes 15 points to qualify for the ESA, yet the report suggests national averages of 2.1 points for physical issues and 3.6 points for mental issues. The only way to maintain such low averages is by scoring several people at zero points for each one who passes. Are cases of people who score zero points when they clearly should pass simply evidence that the assessor saw too many seriously ill and disabled people that week? There is already an outcryover the state of the work capability assessment, with roughly one in six of all assessments successfully appealed against, at a cost to the Tribunals Service, and the taxpayer, of more than £75m per year. If that failure rate is not caused by poor quality work at the healthcare professional level but is a consequence of the Atos management system, which in turn is driven by the contractual requirements placed on it by DWP, then shouldn’t that out

        • JUST THOUGHT THAT SOME OF YOUR CONTRIBUTORS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THE FOLLOWING PARAGRAPH TAKEN FROM AN INTERNAL MEMO THAT DWP CIRCULATED………………………

          IT CONCERNS THE DWP DISTANCING THEMSELVES FROM ATOS HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONERS, WHEN IT WAS EXPOSED THAT THE MEDICAL REPORTS WERE SERIOUSLY FLAWED

          EMPs will no longer be available as a source of evidence
          (except for RPP cases). DMs may however use CCM guidance, Health and Wellbeing
          Directorate recognised internet sites such as Cancer Research UK and NHS Choices, the
          information in the claim form, request factual reports, ESA85 reports, care plans, information
          available from schools or social services. They can also telephone the claimant or carer,
          discuss the case with fellow DMs, colleagues, their HEO, or seek advice from DMA Leeds if
          the enquiry concerns applying the law to the established circumstances. This list is not
          exhaustive.
          ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..

          AN EMP, (AS STATED IN THE FIRST LINE), IS AN EXAMINING MEDICAL PRACTITIONER, (ATOS HCP)…………………………………….

          THE MEMORANDUM SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT THESE PEOPLE WILL NO LONGER BE AVAILABLE AS A SOURCE OF EVIDENCE!!!!!

          WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS THE MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS CARRIED OUT BY ATOS PERSONNEL HAVE NO RECOGNITION AS THE ANALYST DOES NOT HAVE THE MEDICAL EXPERIENCE TO FORMULATE SUCH A REPORT ON THE HEALTH OF A CLAIMANT…………….

          ……..in laymans terms;

          “THE WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENTS THAT ATOS PROVIDED FOR THE DWP ARE NOT WORTH THE PAPER THEY ARE WRITTEN ON

  109. ………..extract taken from staff bulletin to DWP internal departments on 7th Nov 2013, as highlighted in Daily Mirror;

    evidence to be obtained before a decision can be made on balance of probabilities.
    12. In exceptional circumstances, should all sources of evidence be exhausted and it is still not
    possible to reach a decision on balance of probabilities, the designated person may seek
    advice from ATOS using the DBD 385 via the medical evidence wizard.
    ………………………………………………………………………………

    …………..they are saying, the use of ATOS material in making a decision on a disabled persons claim, must only be used if every other avenue has been thoroughly exhausted…………….

    A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ATOS WERE HERALDED BY THE DWP AS THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS OF THE HEALTHCARE WORLD.

    TODAY THEY ARE NOT EVEN ON THE BACK BURNER……

    NAMED AND SHAMED AS THE CHARLATANS THAT THEY REALLY ARE,
    “THE PRODUCT OF A STATE ENLISTED, DISABILITY DENIAL MACHINE THAT HOLD NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER, A SHAM IN EVERY RESPECT”

    …………a ruthless organisation that has brought about deaths in our community, sponsored by the DWP in collusion with another government department, Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunal Service,

    “A FINELY HONED, WELFARE AND DISABILITY KILLING MACHINE”

  110. My son has brain damage and I his mum has cancer and they have stopped his esa. Bottom line we are deteriorating and dying. This is heartbreaking and Im being passed around with nobody taking responsibility. We are not greedy we just want to eat and keep warm. HELP!

    • Hello lisa hun , Im in a similar situation I survived treatment in 2007 but things have caught up with me again im awaiting results I was rushed through Atos within a few months and await there forgone conclusion of fit for work.
      Trapped I feel trapped if my childs father actually paid his way I could get out this nightmare but he is only interested in pro creating new life and moving on no one holds the fathers responsable .
      God bless you . Good luck x

  111. I dont know what else to do! Shall I just kill us both now. We are elegant human beings not greedy and only want the minimum. This is manslaughter and I will end up in hospital if esa dont give us what we are entitled to. thanks for listening.

    • YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A GENIUS TO SEE THAT THE DWP AND COURTS AND TRIBUNALS SERVICE ARE SHAFTING THE DISABLED AND POOR…………

      IT’S A COLLABORATION MADE I HEAVEN WHERE ONE DEPARTMENT ROBS YOU OF YOUR ENTITLEMENT THEN THE OTHER ONE ENDORSES IT.

      EQUALITY LAW GAVE THE DISABLED A STATUS OF HAVING A “PROTECTED CHARACTERISTIC” THAT OFFERED THE HOLDER A FORM OF PROTECTION FROM BEING BULLIED, BUT NEITHER OF THESE DEPARTMENTS GIVE A DAMN, RUTHLESSLY TREADING THE RIGHTS INTO THE GROUND…………

      WHAT YOU ARE WITNESSING IS A GIANT CULL OF THOSE OF US UNFORTUNATE TO HAVE A MENTAL OR PHYSICAL DISABILITY.
      THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE PAIN, SUFFERING AND DEATH.

      TO THESE TWO KILLERS, YOU ARE A MERE STATISTIC, A PAT ON THE BACK FOR SOME ARSEHOLE WILLING TO INFLICT PAIN
      HIDING IN AN OFFICE KOW-TOWING TO HIS SENIORS AS THEY ARE, IN TURN REWARDED FOR THEIR INHUMAN ACTIONS.

      ………….NOBODY NEEDS TO DIE, BUT YOU MY FRIENDS, OFFER THE PATH OF LEAST RESISTENCE!

      YOUR BODIES AND MINDS ARE ALREADY FRAIL AND CARRY THE HEAVIEST BURDENS, YET YOU ARE CONSIDERED A WORTHWHILE TARGET.
      IT REMINDS ME OF HUNTING FOR THREE LEGGED ANIMALS, TRAPPING THEM AND STATING THE MOST DECENT THING TO DO IS PUT THEM OUT OF THEIR MISERY…………………….

      ……………THE DWP AND COURTS AND TRIBUNALS SERVICE IS A STATE KILLING MACHINE, ONE ENDORSES THE OTHERS ACTIONS………

      HOW CAN IT BE FAIR THAT A BIASED ATOS MEDICAL REPORT IS USED TO STEAL YOUR BENEFITS WHEN IT ISN’T WORTH THE PAPER IT’S WRITTEN ON?

      MORE TO THE POINT, WHY ARE THE COURTS AND TRIBUNALS SERVICE ALLOWING HEARINGS TO GO AHEAD WHEN THE BASIS OF THE SANCTION WAS A SKEWED REPORT THAT GENERATED ON A ROGUE SOFTWARE DEVELOPED BY A DISABILITY DENIAL GROUP?

      THEIR IS ONLY ONE ANSWER, COLLUSION!……………..

      HOW CAN A COURT BE INDEPENDENT WHEN HANDLING AN ISSUE OF WELFARE, WHEN THE QUEEN GAVE ROYAL ASSENT TO THE WELFARE REFORM ACT OF 2012, AND THE COURTS CARRY THE TITLE OF ,”HER MAJESTY’S COURTS AND TRIBUNAL SERVICE?”
      IT’S JUST FARCICAL, IT IS NEITHER INDEPENDENT, FAIR OR JUST……………….

      IT’S A BIG CON TO ROB YOU OF THAT, WHICH HAS BEEN RIGHTLY GRANTED PREVIOUSLY.

      WHEN YOU ATTEND A COURT OR HEARING, YOU ARE TREATED LIKE DIRT AND SPOKEN DOWN TO……………

      YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE HEARD BY YOUR PEERS AND THIS IS DEFINED IN ANY DICTIONARY AS SOMEONE OF EQUAL RANK OR MERIT.

      ALL THE BULLSHIT OF SWEARING ON A BIBLE, A DODDERY OLD FART IN A WIG AND A TEAM OF TOFFEE NOSED EDUCATED BARRISTERS IS SO FAR FROM THE THE REALITY OF A FAIR TRIAL, IT’S BEYOND BELIEF.

      MONEY BRINGS ABOUT JUSTICE, IT ALWAYS HAS AND IT ALWAYS WILL……………………

      ANDREW MITCHELL MADE NO MISTAKE WHEN HE USED THE WORD PLEB.

      YOU, MY FRIEND, SHOULD KNOW YOUR PLACE AND THIS IS DICTATED BY ONE THING ONLY, THE PECKING ORDER.

      THOSE SITTING NEAREST TO THE HEAD OF THE TABLE ALWAYS RISE ABOVE THOSE WHO ARE FED THE CRUMBS OF COMFORT………I MAY BE A PLEB BUT I HAVE AN OPINION.

      AN OPINION AS GOOD AS ANYONE, BUT STIFLED BY THE FACT THAT I SIT AT THE OPPOSITE END OF THE TABLE FROM THE SERVER……………………..

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  114. Im almost certain this government is breaking the law. I have sent in evidence that has not been acknowledged which proves them wrong. They are relying on people giving up without a fight and I’m not just fighting for my son and I, I am fighting for everyone as long as I can. Thank you to all those who are sanctioned because you/we paid for bbc1 new year fireworks with the money they saved!

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  116. ANOTHER SUICIDESOMEONES DAUGHTERIT WILL BE DENIEDTHAT THIS IS MANSLAUGHTER SOMEONE ELSE HAS DIEDSOMEBODY’S SONHIS BENEFIT WAS DENIEDTHEIR WORK IS NOT DONE CAN ANYONE HELP? PEOPLE ARE DYING!STARVING SLOWLY, AT BESTCAN THEY HEAR OUR CHILDREN CRYING?HOW CAN THEY SLEEP OR REST?

    Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 10:11:24 +0000 To: lisajyqop@hotmail.co.uk

  117. google; 38 DEGREES SAMUEL MILLER

    A LETTER TO THE HAGUE OUTLINING THE MISTREATMENT OF THE SICK AND DISABLED

    I WOULD ADVISE ALL TO SIGN IT……….

  118. I am very scared for our poor people. I think the government has a final solution in store. They know people are dying and yet still are cruel enough to call us scroungers! Im sure they have 20 year plan to kill us off when prisons are full. Im dying and my son doesnt exist and is being denied his rightful benefit. He has no money and has braindamage and epilepsy.
    We are being deprived of the basics not luxuries. They want us dead.

  119. GEOFFREY REYNOLDS

    ONCE AGAIN, THE DWP, DISABILITY WELFARE PARIAH’S, ARE SPOUTING SHIT THROUGH THEIR “COCK IN THE MOUTH COLLEAGUES”,
    THE BBC, GENERAL PATTON;S PROPAGANDA PUPPETS!

    THE SPIN DOCTORS OF THIS STATE SPONSORED KILLING MACHINE ARE ABOUT AS HONEST AS AN ATOS MEDICAL REPORT!

    TWISTING THE TRUTH IS EASY WHEN YOU CONTROL THE DUMBFUCKS
    OF THE HAND IN POCKET MEDIA.

    THIS IS THE BBC HEADLINE;

    The DWP claims 980,400 people – 32%, of new applicants for Employment and Support Allowance – were judged capable of work between 2008 and March 2013.

    …………NEW APPLICANTS, MY ARSE!!!!!

    THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN RECEIPT OF SICKNESS BENEFITS RECEIVED A LETTER INFORMING THEM THAT THEIR OLD BENEFITS HAD CEASED TO EXIST AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO RE-APPLY FOR A NEW ESA BENEFIT THAT WOULD REPLACE IT.

    A QUESTIONNAIRE WAS SENT TO EXISTING CLAIMANTS ASKING ABOUT THEIR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL ILLNESS AND THEY WERE THEN ASKED TO ATTEND A MEDICAL, BY THE NOW NOTORIOUS, ATOS HEALTHCARE.

    A DISABILITY DENIAL UNIT THAT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY SHITHOUSES LIKE BILL GUNNYEON, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF THE DWP AND HIS TWISTED NETWORK OF CRONIES FROM THE FACULTY OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE.

    BOLSTERED BY THE EFFORTS OF A SELECT NUMBER OF PROMINENT MEMBERS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IN TANDEM WITH HEALTH INSURANCE GIANT, UNUM CORPORATION OF AMERICA,

    FORMERLY CHARGED WITH DISABILITY DENIAL LAWSUITS IN THE USA, THEY SET OUT TO CRUCIFY THE DISABLED OF THE U.K.

    SADLY, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT, BUT IN AN EFFORT TO QUELL THE GROWING TIDE OF DISSENT, OUR GOVERNMENT HAVE SOUGHT TO TRY AND INTRODUCE GAGGING OF ITS PEOPLE……………………………..

    OUR LAWS ARE NO LONGER TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF OUR NATION, THEY ARE BEING REWRITTEN TO HIDE THE ANTICS OF THE WEALTHY ELITE FROM SCRUTINY……………………

    ASK YOURSELVES, WHY IS THE DWP ONLY TOO GLAD TO HERALD IT’S ACHIEVEMENTS, YET COWER TO HIDE THE GROWING MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES LEFT IN ITS ASSAULT ON THE POOREST, WEAKEST AND DISABLED?

    OUR QUEEN, OUR MONARCH, IS THE BIGGEST WELFARE SCROUNGER THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER KNOWN!

    THE STATE SUPPORTS THIS FAMILY OF NOBLE “INBREDS” WHILST SHAFTING EVERYBODY ELSE…………………….

    ON THIS PLATFORM, I GEOFFREY REYNOLDS, CHALLENGE YOU, IAIN DUNCAN SMITH, TO AN OPEN FISTED CAGE FIGHT………..

    I MAY BE DISABLED, BUT THE HATE AND ANGER THAT I HOUSE WITHIN MY FRAIL BODY WILL PUT YOU TO SHAME ANYDAY!

    “YOU ARE BUT A COWARD LIVING WITHIN THE BODY OF A MAN”

    WHY NOT TAKE UP MY CHALLENGE AND LET THE WORLD SEE WHAT A CRAVEN JELLY OF A MAN YOU REALLY ARE?

    HAVING BODYGUARDS IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT, IT’S NOT A MATTER OF SOCIAL PROMINENCE, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SIMPLE SCUMBAG WHO MILLIONS WOULD LIKE TO SEE ERADICATED…………….

    TAKE UP MY CHALLENGE, I DARE YOU?

    I WILL FIGHT YOU FOR THE RELEASE OF THE TRUE MORTALITY RATES YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS INFLICTED, THE ONES HIDDEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

    THE FINAL NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN…………….

    ……………and maybe the reason that i am being paid only £32.30 per week, disabled for life………………………..

  120. I too am outraged by the cruel reality of what I believe to be another holocaust. I may be dying and I am clinically underweight but I will fight not just my cause but all our fellow disabled but elegant human beings. Take each day as it comes. I wish you well. Lisa xxx

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