Iain Duncan Smith Should Be Put On Trial Over The Work Capability Assessment Deaths

atos_kills_bannerThe tragic death of severely unwell Mark Wood, who died of malnutrition just five months after he was found ‘fit for work’ by Atos and the DWP, was not just ‘wrong’ as the Government have today admitted – it was grossly negligent.  Whether this negligence was criminal must be urgently investigated.

Morally, and almost certainly legally, the DWP have a duty of care when making decisions which can potentially devastate the lives of those called  ‘vulnerable adults’ by care professionals.  The Work Capability Assessment, which led to the death of Mark Wood, has already been found unfair for people with mental health conditions in the courts.  Instead of halting the assessments based on this judgement, Iain Duncan Smith has brushed it aside – convinced he knows better than the courts, the medical establishment and the thousands of sick and disabled people themselves driven to despair by the current system.

Mark Wood’s death is far from the first linked to welfare reforms.  A recent report by the Mental Welfare Commission for Scotland (PDF) highlighted another suicide which they found was directly linked to the Work Capability Assessment (WCA).  In a damning report, the charity surveyed 56 psychiatrists who had treated patients facing one of these crude, computer based assessments.  Their findings are both horrifying and desperately sad:

“85% of the 52 respondents to this question told us about an increased frequency of appointments. 65% had at least one patient who required an increased dose of medication and 35% reported at least one patient who had changed medication. 40% had at least one patient who had self-harmed after the WCA. 13% of respondents reported that a patient had attempted suicide and 4% (two RMOs) stated that a patient had taken his/her own life. 35% said that at least one of their patients had been admitted to hospital as a consequence of the WCA and 4% told us about a patient being detained under the Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003.”

The Work Capability Assessment must be brought to an immediate halt.  Even the company in charge, the notorious Atos, finally seem to have realised this, confirming this week they will pull out of the contract early.  This is the only way to stop any more deaths, and it needs to happen now, as in this week.  Otherwise more people will die.

It is no longer enough however to call just for the Government to scrap every aspect of the bungled and brutal welfare reforms that are destroying so many lives.  People are dying in one of the richest countries in the world as a direct result of this horrifying attack on the very poorest people.  The politicians in charge know this, but are happy to let these deaths continue as part of the ideologically driven obsession with proving that people on benefits are scroungers or fakes and that unemployment is caused by unemployed people.

According to the Daily Mail, David Cameron has backed an urgent review into the Work Capability Assessment.  This review should not just look into the failures in the process but assess whether negligence has taken place and if so who is culpable and whether criminal charges can be brought.  If Iain Duncan Smith. Atos or the DWP, can be put on trial over these shameful deaths it will not bring anyone back.  But at the very least it will send a message to every politician, today and long into the future, that the UK’s legal system will not tolerate reckless cost-cutting experiments that put human lives at risk.

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148 responses to “Iain Duncan Smith Should Be Put On Trial Over The Work Capability Assessment Deaths

  1. If we could get him up on charges of crimes against humanity it would just be the greatest thing and show that the UK was not prepared to descend any further into barbarism than it currently is.

    • As I’ve said on another thread, we should all bombard the BBC with e-mails to the andrewmarrshow@bbc.co.uk insisting he is held to account for his crimes. IDS is guest on Marr’s show this Sunday and must not get away with the sort of limp-wristed brown-nosing he received from Andrew Neil on the Sunday Politics recently.

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      Just received a letter from one of the DWP’s little Hitler’s, the disability denial section officer, (no names – jv) of Bradford…..

      After submitting more evidence for my upcoming ESA tribunal,in which i gave them one of their own doctors reports that stated i was “incapable of all work”.

      Strangely, replied;

      “It is entirely possible that a claimant may be passed unfit for work under the Personal Capability Assessment but be found capable of work under Work Capability Assessment”

      This is complete gobbledygook, having one purpose only, to steal your disability benefits……………….

      In my further medical submissions to the ESA tribunal, i asked what medical qualifications the DWP DECISION MAKER had.
      replied;
      “I submit that in selecting descriptors for the physical and mental activities the decision maker has considered all the available evidence but preferred the recommendations of the Health Care Professional since it is a functional assessment made by a qualified medical practitioner who is experienced in carrying out assessments and who is independent of the decision making authorities and is disinterested in the outcome of the claim”

      This reply speaks for itself, THE DECISION MAKERS AT DWP HAVE NO MEDICAL QUALIFICATIONS WHATSOEVER!!!

      ……………at the end of my letter, it states;

      “The healthcare professional acknowledged that he suffers from back problems, rheumatoid arthritis,a hearing problem and a bladder problem”
      I submit that the decision maker considered all the available evidence when making their decision and in doing so agreed with the Health care professional’s recommendations and did not award any points………….”

      “IS THERE ANY WONDER THAT DISABLED PEOPLE ARE BEING DRIVEN TO SUICIDE WHEN THESE BASTARDS AT THE DWP GET AWAY WITH SHIT LIKE THIS?”

  2. I noticed the BBC stopped broadcasting its loathsome ‘Saints and Scroungers’ series about the same time Atos announced it was going to try and get out of its DWP contract early.

  3. At very least it should be ‘Willful neglect of persons with limited capacity’ because they know about the continuing deaths and have refused to stop the tyranny 😦

    • Julia three weeks ago I had to drive ex to one of these difficult to park hospital jobs. Whilst waiting on one of these trading estates a guy in a track suit dropped his trousers and peed. It was clear from his body movements he was probably mentally handicapped/mentally ill. And also a product of Thatchers NO CARE IN THE COMMUNITY. In the establishment I use to work in he would have been sanctioned for that behaviour. Instead he’s wandering the streets aimlessly defficating as he pleases.

  4. The biopsychosocial approach to medical conditions, which is the whole basis of the ESA regime, now needs to be properly scrutinised. Some good researchers need to take a good hard look at the datasets and methodology of the medical works the DWP uses to justify its “fit for work” iatrogenic quackology. Waddell, Burton, Aylward Mansell, Dame Carol Black and the Wessely school of psychiatry, amongst others, all inflict their baseless pseudoscience on disabled people without the slightest regard of recording or registering harms to patients.

    Hence the reason biopsychosocial codswallop is so popular with private insurance companies and government departments such as the Dept of Health, the Ministry of Defence and the DWP. War pensions can be stolen from the likes of Gulf War Illness veterans, and payouts denied those with private health insurance, as well as welfare benefits denied those applying to the DWP for help. And there is no way to report iatrogenic effects of biopsychosocial quackology which is used to abuse the sick and disabled in this way. It’s win-win for those in power and hell for disabled people and sick patients.

    • Very well said Joe Kane.

      Wessely and his stinking cigars are behind the abject torture that those with CFS and ME are subjected to known as GET. He’s made an absolute packet out of this crap. He was involved in the development of IAPT too, another dungheap. The ethos of the model is sneaking into every single aspect of our lives, it’s terrifying.

      ATOS still own Positive Step who are one of the main purveyors of this crap within the NHS. They are raking in the cash all the way.

      Crude behaviourism is being used as an abusive puppetry on the most vulnerable people in our society. It kills.

      It must stop.

    • Already been done in the USA and banned in many states.

      From Disability News Service:
      The US courts discredited Unum Provident’s “non-medical” model for assessing medical conditions(8) yet successive UK governments adopted it to reduce the welfare budget, regardless of the human cost of this imported US medical tyranny. Now known as Unum Insurance, the company have rebranded periodically over the years, depending on the numbers of $multi-million fines imposed due to unacceptable medical assessment practice(9), and they offer income protection (disability) insurance but, as a company, have a disturbing past history of resisting paying out when an insured person hits hard times with illness, or the onset of a disability, and needs to make a claim.(

    • Well said.

      If there is one thing to learn from the evidence of the WCA circus, it is the sheer abusive and cruel humbug of trying to cobble a loophole to ‘prove’ that an individual who has been signed off by his/her own doctors might still, somehow be fit to perform ‘work’. (Where ‘work’ is redifined, according to a fly-on-the-wall investigation of Atos, as a paraplegic being forced to mindlessly press a button for hours on end with his one functioning finger.)

      And forced workfare for the disabled attempting to claim through our National Insurance system, is like, if someone burgled your home, but then your insurance company could sentence YOU to unlimited months of forced labour in ‘community payback’. (At least when UNUM Insurance wrongly blocked claims and acted as a ‘disability denial factory’ in the US, it didn’t herd many of its customers into a chain gang clearing out parks, as our DWP is currently doing.)

      When someone has a serious illness or injury from which there is any hope of recovery, they invariably need rest to do so. Tiring or stressing them out will invariably mean recovery takes longer or be incomplete, with an increased likelihood of future complications and exacerbations. Archaeology tells us that even the NEANDERTHALS knew this, with evidence of the elderly, weak or injured being nursed and looked after until they either recovered or died. However the BPS Model denies a knowledge as old as the human race to accusingly insist that ‘there is no such thing as illness’, and that the ‘illness behaviour’ arising from, say, cancer or a broken back, is a form of moral deviancy arising from laziness and scrounging.

      Certainly, many sick and disabled individuals can still work, but generally it is those who are generally healthy but with an impairment (like most of the paralympians), or a chronically sick individual who is in the EARLIER stages of their condition, and not yet housebound or bedridden. There again, there are unique individuals such as Stephen Hawking. Anyone know the cumulative cost over the decades for the ‘reasonable adaptations’ in terms of cutting-edge equipment and nursing entourage? While easy to justify for a world class scientist, would Poundland be happy to provide such support for Atos’ iconic paraplegic able to move just one finger to press a panic button?

      Underlying all this is a ‘mass surveillance model which assumes that ALL British citizens are potential criminals needing to be watched and monitored every moment of the day and night, lest we shirk or scrounge. Matters IN the workplace are bad enough with incessant monitoring of everything from keystrokes to toilet breaks and increasing gov’t pressure to deny short-term sick leave.

      The point of the WCA is ONLY to overturn the doctor’s reccommendations that individuals rest and recover at home. It does not attempt to identify fraud (where, if it existed, the doctors who diagnosed the disease would be accomplices). And since few employers would risk taking on a worker who might be facing regular periods of severe incapacity and hospitalisation, the WCA then conscripts these people back to JSA (hacking into their benefits) or WRAG, as a means of herding them into forced labour (which will shorten their lives and save the DWP their benefit and pension money).

      The idea of forced work for the disabled must end, together with the cruel inquisitions leading to this sentencing.

      For that matter, CAPITA is the company that has harrassed the vulnerable over BBC TV licences for many years, and googling the cruelties and abuses of that system makes for enlightening and horrifying reading. (Incidentally and Atos ‘inspector’ entering your home to test you for PIP, WILL be checking for any equipment that could recieve broadcast TV, and should they spot any evidence for the use of, say, cannabis, on your premesis, they WILL be tipping off the police as company policy – because all this has happened over recent years to BBC refuseniks).

      • Great post 🙂

        • Please contact me
          you make perfect sense but I have info and evidence of unprecedented invasion of privacy and large scale criminal activity within the dwp spy depts in Hull. If you ask, I will get contact info to you.

  5. On March 4, 2014 I wrote to Mike Penning, formally requesting that Mark Wood’s Atos and DWP files, along with the coroner’s report, be sent to Jorge Araya, UNCRPD Secretary, pursuant to a possible UN inquiry into his death.

    “I am willing to give your Department sufficient time to collect and send a copy of these documents (including written permission from Mr. Wood’s family, if necessary) to the UN’s Mr. Jorge Araya—but kindly ask that you acknowledge my request within 20 working days, to both myself and Mr. Araya, expressing your compliance.”

    The death of “Ms DE” (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/mental-health-watchdog-calls-changes-3287142) also merits attention.

    Montreal, Canada

  6. I so agree with your blog post – the WCA needs to be stopped right now! Never mind Cameron saying he’s backing an urgent review – so says the Mail who lie as much as the government – the urgent review should be to stop it immediately!
    How many more have to die?
    This should keep going worldwide so that other countries can see just how bad the vulnerable people in the UK are treated by this government. The EU ought to do something but they are only interested in money, like this government. The UN should keep rattling the government so that they know for certain that this country is going backwards, and, the rest of the world should know just how the UK government despises the disabled and long term sick and continually hounds them. Hounds them to death 😦

    • At very least Cameron should call a moratorium and suspend the WCA test pending the outcome of the review.

      Tens of thousands have already died. How many more before this is stopped.

      And why hasn’t LABOUR yet pledged to axe the WCA test and drop the idea that ANY sick or disabled person should ever be forced back to work against the advice of their doctors.

      There is NO excuse for this carnage to continue.

      • @anon: “And why hasn’t LABOUR yet pledged to axe the WCA test and drop the idea that ANY sick or disabled person should ever be forced back to work against the advice of their doctors.”

        Because they agree with harassing and bullying sick/disabled and unemployed people almost as much as the Tories. Also they want to spread the propaganda that anyone on benefits is a drain and should be made to suffer for getting that benefit, through things like the humiliation of Workfare and the work program.

  7. Reblogged this on Jay's Journal and commented:
    They are all culpable, the government the DWP, Atos and any of the other so called “Health providers”!

  8. Good post Johnny. An inquiry should be held and people should be held accountable for the things this Government are doing but it wont be. As for the government holding an inquiry into the work capability assessment, they are merely paying lip service. Nothing will be done, and why should it? It doesn’t affect them. Like the way they brushed off any criticisms of Universal Job match this government are hardly going to find their own policies to be at fault.

    • True, but this is where Labour should be stepping in and promising that they will axe the WCA test and pay the full ESA amount to any person whose doctors have signed them off as unfit for work.

      And that this benefit would be payable for as long as that individual remained sick (no more contributions-related WRAG, where people are left penniless after a year, even when they are still disabled).

      Labour needs to reintroduce compassion to British politics, and become the party of common decency, as well as doing something to restore its credibility as the party for the ‘common people’.

  9. overburdenddonkey

    we have been forced to endure pure hell, by cause of the deluded imaginations/imaginings of ids, mcvie, et al…they need urgent and provident psychiatric treatment…the war on the poor sick and disabled etc must be ended…urgent review gossip, will resolve nothing as it implies the WCA can be fixed, or needs to be fixed, not that the WCA is a fix, that could never serve ANY logic purpose….terrorizing us so we deny our symptoms, and blame ourselves for not getting this that or the other right, is disgusting and outrageous…our gp’s have signed med certs confirming that we are “not fit for work”, therefore they are also saying that our opinions, the gp’s opinions, and the nhs opinions are crap…where on earth is/are the political mechanisms to stop these things happening?

  10. It wont make a bit of difference to this horrible government if people die due to their inhumane practices, they are beyond human themselves

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  12. btw, record numbers of people are now being evicted here in Yorkshire due to not being able to afford the bedroom tax, I have just received my council tax for the year and it has increased 38% on last year, so my 1% jsa rlse will not even touch it!

    • There are noticably more people ‘on the streets’ even compared with this time last year, and people who are visibly unwell/malnourished – almost (though not) all are young/male.

  13. there must by a way of putting him on trail im sure if we put our heads together we could find one,

    • Misconduct in public office

      Misconduct in public office is an offence at common law triable only on indictment. It carries a maximum sentence of life imprisonment. It is an offence confined to those who are public office holders and is committed when the office holder acts (or fails to act) in a way that constitutes a breach of the duties of that office.

  14. Excellent post Mr Void. Somehow we have to find a way to get through to these sadistic goons that this rape and pillage of this country and its people must stop. They have gone beyond all care in their abuse of us, the acknowledgement of Mark Wood’s needless death is an insult to him and his family.

    Since day one of their stolen power, this government has behaved like it’s on a supermarket sweep of the country, grabbing everything they can. It seems to be speeding up too. Soon there will be nothing left, which is what they planned all along.

  15. if realtives of all the people who had died sued atos sued atos for medicail malpractice.

    they might in there defence implicate the dwp.

  16. An excellent post, yet again. The whole cabinet (including the LibDem collaborators) should be named in any action in the Courts, however, as they are all responsible for the policy implemented. The question still lingers that if Cameron wanted IDS out, but he refused to go (!) what is actually going on there?

    It’s been crystal clear for a long time that there really is a class war being waged, and the destruction of millions of lives is not simply “a price worth paying” for the Tories, but a central objective. Why? It’s a simple enough question, but no-one can provide an answer, beyond conjecture and the obvious.

    There are very dark forces at work here, from the protection of the banking sector through to the enrichment of the wealthiest, along with the economic purging of the poor from government responsibility, and from the care of society in a wider sense. When viewed through the latest economic projections of financial meltdown, lead again by the unreformed bankers and the oil industry having to admit that production is now set to fall from 2015, to the IMF urging the money & power in the world to support LESS inequality (huh?), there is the sense that there is another, bigger, crisis just around the corner. The one where nothing will be too big to fail this time.

    • If Cameron wanted IDS out he could have got him out, it was a half-hearted effort and DC never intended to move him even though it appeared so in that reshuffle…. it was a sham…. another example of thinking the people of this country are fools….could prove to be fools yet… for allowing this poor excuse for a coalition to continue beyond 2015.

      • totallygivenup

        bang on moi i live in an area where the orwellien “beer and bingo” strategy is working,plebs singing “we love beer and bingo” late into the night they think its fun but most are under 25 and dont give a shit yet,i say yet cause the national service bill gets its second reading soon,lets see how they react to that,i think that could be the straw….hence why nobody is even mentioning it

        • National Service – while the young working class are forced to shovel shit, the offspring of the entitlement class will be sunning themselves on bogus overseas aid developments or swivelling on Daddy’s tax deductible office furniture.

  17. we can get rid of Iain Duncan Smith by simply putting an X in a box at the next elections. simple

    • Yes but that wouldn’t be sufficient Robert for the heinous and disgusting crimes he’s perpetrated against the weakest and poorest souls in society. No he needs to be held totally accountable for his crimes and preferably in a court of law. Any civilized society would not accept someone getting away with what he’s done. It’s not on.

      • he must be huanded after he leaves just like is happening to tony bliar.

        • Good idea nuggy. Bliar is now a pariah and can’t go anywhere without a nice warm welcoming committee waiting for him to tell him how much the country loves him. I hope, and i’m sure it will happen, that the same thing will happen to IDS and after he exits stage left the public will not allow him to forget his crimes against the people of this country.

    • Labour are going to keep WCA in some form or other.

      • Well, ultimately Labour can’t, and clinging to the WCA in the run-up to the election will only damage them.

        The corpse count is already massive, with the worst of it hidden in figures that the DWP evenually WILL be forced to disclose. (And meantime the cat is already out of the bag with most mainstream media now regularly acknowledging and reporting on WCA deaths).

        It’s becoming clear to all (and globally!) that the alternative to leaving disabled people ‘festering’ on benefits (in Cameron’s immortal words), is a festering mountain of corpses that would rival Auschwitz.

        Does Labour want that festering mountain on its doorstep? Or will they find it more politically expedient to dump the corpses back on the doorstep of Tory HQ, while playing the outraged compassion card?

        This is Labour’s ONE CHANCE to offload their lethan and failed disability reforms, while bleating that what IDS did was never what they had intended would happen.

        It is obvious which approach to the WCA will keep Labour safe from prosecution, and win them the most lasting support.

    • A more humane way of getting rid of ole’ slaphead is a tazer gun set to maximum…

    • But that will not necessarily slaughter the neoliberal ride and tie donkey of welfare reform.

    • Iain Duncan Smith is a WAR CRIMINAL! The scumbag should stand trial at The Hague!

  18. THIS IS A RESPONSE TO ME UNDER THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT;

    In response to your questions there is a requirement for each Healthcare Professional
    (HCP) to be approved to conduct medical assessments; this role is undertaken by the DWP
    Chief Medical Adviser (CMA) who is also a qualified Doctor who is registered with the
    General Medical Council.

    The CMA approves the HCPs employed by Atos Healthcare to carry out medical
    assessments, and separate approval is required for each benefit area in which the HCP is
    involved. Approval is dependent on strict recruitment criteria being satisfied, successful
    completion of all stages of their training process, as well as evidence of the HCPs
    satisfactory performance within the training course and ongoing demonstration that the
    HCPs work meets a satisfactory standard.

    If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number
    above.

    Yours sincerely

    Business Management Team
    Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)
    ………………………………………………………………………….

    ………..MY QUESTION IS SIMPLE.

    WHY IS BILL GUNNYEON, THE DWP CHIEF MEDICAL ADVISOR, STILL IN A JOB?

  19. money for noyhing vand your spliffs for free

    it’s been shared over 920 times the DM artical and over 630 comments wanting that fucking bastard ids up in front of the courts!!! lots of comments regarding the other deaths as well.

  20. IN ANOTHER FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST, THE DWP SENT ME THIS;

    In response to your questions 1 and 4, the Equality Act requires service providers, such as Atos,
    to make reasonable adjustments to take account of an individual’s disability when providing that
    service. Under the terms of their contract with DWP, Atos are required to ensure they remain
    compliant with Equality Laws and the Disability Discrimination Act 1995.

    Race, Disabiity and Gender Equality Scheme information can be accessed at the following link:

    http://www.dwp.gov.uk/about-dwp/diversity-and-equality/dwp-equality-information/
    If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number above.

    Yours sincerely

    Business Management Team
    Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)
    …………………………………………………………………………….

    MY QUESTION, AGAIN, IS SIMPLE;

    WHY ARE ATOS AND THE DWP BREACHING BOTH DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION AND EQUALITY LAWS BY FINDING DISABLED PERSONS, FIT FOR WORK, WHEN THEY CLEARLY ARE NOT?

    • I’M QUITE SURPRISED THAT THE DWP HAVE NOT SOUGHT HELP TO REPLACE ATOS, FROM THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT.

      THERE HAS BEEN A SPATE OF ARRESTS RECENTLY OF PERSONS ASSOCIATED WITH ATROCITIES COMMITTED IN NAZI EXTERMINATION CAMPS, SURELY THESE COULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION?

      WE ALREADY HAVE BILL GUNNYEON AS THE THE CHIEF MEDICAL DIRECTOR OF THE DWP, SURELY THE EQUIVALENT OF DOCTOR DEATH, JOSEF MENGELES……………….

      CHIEF MEDICAL DIRECTOR, WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!!

      WITH SO MANY DEATHS ATTRIBUTED TO HIS EUGENICS CLEANSING MACHINE HE WOULD BE MORE SUITED TO AN ABATTOIR PRODUCTION LINE…………………..

      WHAT YOU SEE IS WHAT YOU GET, HE AND THE TWISTED STUDENTS OF THE FACULTY OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE, ASSISTED BY NONE OTHER THAN DAME CAROL BLACK, ARE THE SPRINGBOARD FOR ALL THE SHIT HAPPENING AT THE MOMENT.

      THEY ARE THE PUPPETS OF THE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURERS, HELL BENT ON BRINGING DOWN THE NHS, BRICK BY BRICK………..

      THE TRAIL OF DEAD DISABLED, TO THEM, IS THE PRICE WORTH PAYING TO BRING ABOUT THIS TRANSITION.

      GREED, CORPORATE GREED, IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.

      THESE PEOPLE ARE THE TOOLS NECESSARY TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS. THE ROTTEN APPLES THAT WILL BRING ABOUT THE DEATHS OF THOUSANDS FOR A FEW ILL GAINED FAVOURS.

      THE ROAD TO THE CEMETERY IS A LONG ONE, BUT THIS GOVERNMENT AND IT’S HEINOUS OBJECTIVES WILL EXPEDITE THAT JOURNEY, TAKING NO PRISONERS ALONG THE WAY………..

      THEY ARE BEYOND CORRUPT……………………….

      “A FETID PILE OF STEAMING SHIT”

  21. ………………WHAT A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT TO THE DWP.

    THEY WROTE PAGE AFTER PAGE IN FREEDOM OF INFORMATION RELEASES, EXTOLLING THE VIRTUES OF THE PROFESSIONALISM OF ATOS HCP’S.

    WHAT THEY COULDN’T DO WAS NOBODY’S BUSINESS……………….

    THEY WERE SO HIGHLY TRAINED AND KNEW EVERYTHING THAT WAS RECORDED ON MEDICAL MATTERS.

    “THEY COULD BRING A CORPSE TO LIFE”

    PAGE AFTER PAGE ON THE MERITS OF THIS FANTASTIC “ATOS”,
    THE BE ALL AND END ALL OF DISABILITY KNOWLEDGE…..

    ……………………..AND NOW

    AS THE TWO MILES OF COFFINS (AT LEAST),HAVE SNEAKED INTO THE MEDIA, THE DWP HAVE DECIDED TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES SO FAR AWAY FROM ATOS, EVEN TELLING THEIR OWN DECISION MAKERS NOT TO ACCESS ATOS MEDICAL INFORMATION UNTIL ALL OTHER AVENUES HAVE BEEN EXHAUSTED!

    “FROM MEDICAL GODS TO MASS MURDERERS IN THE COURSE OF A HIDDEN CONTRACT”

    A CONTRACT HIDDEN FROM THE PRYING EYES OF THE PUBLIC FOR OBVIOUS REASONS, THE DISABLED WOULD BE DECIMATED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT WORTHY OF ENJOYING A LIFE………………EXPENDABLE!

    IT SEEMS THE RAVINGS OF A LUNATIC AND THE ASPIRATIONS OF THE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURERS, SUCH AS UNUM, IS WORTH MORE THAN THE LIVES OF THOSE WITH A PHYSICAL OR MENTAL DISABILITY.

    KEEP UP THE KILLING SPREE WHILE THE BMA PRETEND TO LOOK AWAY………………………..

  22. …………..if the DWP had gone on the RATED PEOPLE.COM WEBSITE, it would have saved so much hassle and thousands of lives………………..

    USE COWBOYS TO BUILD A HOUSE AND IT WILL PROBABLY FALL DOWN.

    USE COWBOYS TO ASSESS MEDICAL AILMENTS AND THEY BURY THEM HASTILY, PRETENDING THE MORTALITY FIGURES ARE NON EXISTENT…….

    IN THE THOUSANDS, IT SEEMS!

    THE DWP KNEW EXACTLY WHAT THEY WERE DOING WHEN THEY TOOK ON ATOS, IT WAS A FRIENDSHIP MADE IN HEAVEN…….

    WE WILL PAY YOU MILLIONS AND IN RETURN WE EXPECT YOU TO PROVIDE DODGY MEDICAL ASSESSMENTS THAT WILL BE USED TO DENY BENEFITS……………..

    IT DOESN’T MATTER ABOUT YOUR HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS BEING PROFICIENT OR QUALIFIED, WE WILL ARRANGE FOR A CERTIFICATE TO SUFFICE THAT IS ONLY RECOGNISED BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE.

    “THE BMA WON’T DARE SPEAK OUT BECAUSE WE HAVE THEIR BOLLOCKS IN A VICE”

    ………….yet strangely, according to legislation, a GP cannot make a decision on a persons fitness to work, but they have been doing this………….

    “THE BMA IS ANOTHER TOOTHLESS TIGER THAT STANDS BACK AND SAYS FUCK ALL AS THE PATIENTS ARE LOADED INTO WOODEN CASKETS”

    HIPPOCRATIC OATH, MORE LIKE HYPOCRITICAL BASTARDS!

    ATOS ARE ALSO KNOWN BY MANY OTHER NAMES;

    ……EACH ASSOCIATED WITH DEATHS OF ESA VICTIMS, AS IT SEEMS, ARE THE BMA……………………

    MARVELOUS THING THIS SILENCE………..

    SPINELESS AT EVERY LEVEL,

    JUST ANOTHER COG IN THE DWP MURDER MACHINE……….

  23. Geoffrey .. Dig deep into the Faculty of Occupational Medicine (registered as an independent charity) and you will find that they too are a member of the same Atos family along with their partner the Royal College of Physicians of which the FOM is a faculty member of, and living rent free in the same accommodation.. By both groups distancing themselves and pertaining to be a different organisation from Atos/Unum they can gain additional seats on government advisory panels, give support to policies, and be additionally consulted on new legislation to give strength to the intended changes., all whilst being part of that same group.

    In 2009 the FOM held their 30th Anniversary celebration at the House of Lords supported by their sponsors Serco and Atos Healthcare..

    Occupational health services serving more than 1,000,000 Government and private employees had achieved SEQOHS accreditation by October 2012. this is managed by the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) on behalf of the Faculty of Occupational Medicine (FOM). Staff working for some of the country’s biggest employers are receiving occupational health advice and support from accredited services; this includes 1,000,000 staff looked after by ATOS healthcare. A hint came from Cameron when he said “We are all in it together.”.

  24. Reminds me of the concerted efforts of the nazis within the concentration camps, having a last ditch effort to cremate as many witnesses to the horror of their ways, as possible, just before the liberating troops came on scene…….

    Filing cabinets were taken outside and destroyed but shrewd jewish trustees had kept duplicate documentation hidden from there arian masters in such an event happening.

    The trail of information and eye witness accounts led to the Nuremberg gallows where the architects of death met their own fates, sadly at a termination of life much easier than they had bestowed upon the victims of inexcusable hate crimes………

    HISTORY HAS A WAY OF REPEATING ITSELF AND WHAT HAS BEEN PERPETRATED UPON THE WEAKEST IN OUR SOCIETY, IS NO DIFFERENT TO THE NAZI IDEOLOGY OF THE PAST…..

    IN FACT IT IS FAR WORSE, AS WE ARE ALWAYS TOLD, LEST WE FORGET………….

    THE RESURRECTION OF THESE HATEFUL CRIMES AGAINST HUMAN BEINGS, LESS ABLE TO DEFEND THEMSELVES, IS TOTALLY ABHORRENT IN THIS CENTURY.

    IT EVEN GOES, NOT ONLY AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS, BUT ALSO AGAINST THE GENEVA CONVENTION………….

    NO AMOUNT OF COMPENSATION CAN BRING BACK THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO HAVE DIED OR SUFFERED AT THE HANDS OF THESE COWARDS WHO LOOK DOWN FROM THEIR SAFE BASTIONS OF POWER.

    THEY SHOULD BE JUDGED ACCORDINGLY FOR THE ATROCITIES THEY HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST HUMANITY….

  25. When all this comes to pass, and eventually it will I do genuinely believe there is a case to be answered, and they should be guilty as charged… it’s an extreme right-wing fascist cancer ripping into peoples lives who are unable to defend themselves. They are indeed all cowards the lot of them for this kind of nastiness… It’s hard to believe that well educated but albeit unexceptional men and women who make up the Tories could ever behave this way but we must remember they have not a clue how to run a country and build a genuine economy beyond their own hidden agenda’s.. yet these days they cannot even hide it.. it’s all smoke and mirrors with them and they are complete scumbags… they have a look about them wouldn’t you agree?, I can spot a tory a mile off… they are dinosaurs of a time that was… that was Thatcherism… strikes, destruction of our manufacturing industry, the slow dismantling of the NHS by breaking it up and selling it off to the private companies, the same with the Royal Mail, they sold it cheaply and now many there will be losing their jobs soon…. I see strikes there too… they went cap in hand to china and sold off the rights to our energy in the uk. It’s already looking bad but if this continues there will be nothing in this country that can be identified as British. They are gambling with the country’s assets and we can simply sit right back and watch them do it or make a change come 2015… another five years and most people will not wish to continue living in the UK because it will no longer be United Kingdom.. hardly that now…. boom and bust waiting to happen once more… people have blown what savings they might have saved.. maybe last xmas or got loans etc and soon the green shoots will rot once more…. it’s sheer folly what the Tories are doing.

  26. i think IDS will have to answer in the courts at some point on many suspect deaths not just Mark Wood’s death

    there are hundreds of families at this time who I’m sure would wont closure on how there loved ones lives came to a premature ending

  27. Check his qualifications !
    See : http://www.ukcolumn.org/forum/anything-goes/ian-duncan-smith-has-no-qualifications-and-lied-his-cv
    He is not fit for office and one wonders how he git a commission in the Army. He should be booted out and probably will be at the next election.

  28. well i;de hang the bastard!

  29. The slap headed lunatic should be fucking hung by the feet until it gasps its last breath on earth. How the hell is the bald monster getting away with henious crimes such as dealing in death (bedroom taxes), the Unfunny Joke Machine or the mis-work programme? Makes me want to be sick in how David Camoron and his cronies are turning a blind eye to the people of this country being treated worse than dog shit.

    My serious allegations of data breaches at my WPP better be resolved in my favour, as it it not I shall go even further with sending a full DPA (1998) complaint against them. They better hope and pray it goes in my favour and that I don’t buy writing material tomorrow when in town or break out my computer as a dangerous typing weapon via an Outlook email onslaught to the top person within Papworth Trust.

    I am after blood now with those stupid fuckers – if they think that I will back down after my latest complaint, they need their fucking heads examined. I am ready to spit blood against them regardless of whether or not my complaint goes for my favour.

  30. If I do see the top person at my WPP office tomorrow, I shall vent the full facts of their failings against my effective job searching/applications and my basic human rights as a person and as a free citizen of this country.

  31. Ingeus are fucking criminals intent of assisting their WP clients into suicide, depression or loss of health. I really hope the bastards realise what they have done to me through their sub-contractor Papworth Trust.

    The only thing they care about is money at the end of the day. One more stunt I will get from the fuckers, I shall go further in trying to bring them to account of their crimes against me.

  32. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
    There are some truly horrific statistics in this piece showing conclusively that the strain of the assessments administered by Atos is immensely harmful – sometimes to the point of causing suicide and self-harm. Private Eye pointed out a few years ago in connection with the case of one young woman, who tried to end her life after being assessed by Atos, that such assessments are explicitly forbidden by law where there is a danger that this will make a person’s mental health worse. The government and Atos clearly are either ignorant of this, or simply don’t care. I’m not a lawyer, but I think in this case there is a very good case for bringing charges of corporate negligence, perhaps even manslaughter, against the company.

    I am extremely pessimistic, however, about how much good the inquiry will do. We’ve seen previous inquiries into the DWP by the Work and Pensions Committee take a very soft line with IDS. Mike over at Vox Political has expressed concern at the way the Commission has not taken on his partner’s account of her problems with the DWP as evidence, but will only circulate it as ‘background information’. This inquiry looks like it’s going to be another whitewash by the government, a token gesture to make it look like the government is concerned and doing something, when it actual fact it has no intention of making any more than cosmetic changes to the system. I hope I’m wrong, and look forward to the day when charges will be brought against Atos and IDS and some of the others responsible for this murderous policy.

    • The system cannot do an enquiry into itself. It’s simply ludicrous. It needs to be a totally independent body with power to make the government act on it’s recommendations. That will never happen. Remember how IDS changed the law overnight regarding illegal workfare? Well when you’re above the law no one can touch you.

      This has to go down the UN or EU route as regards a crime against humanity or a violation of basic human rights and be investigated by the UN or EU as such. What powers they may have over the UK i don’t know but as much pressure as possible needs to be put on them regarding this.

      Let’s see, hounding people and illegally withdrawing their benefits leading to said persons death, i’d say that’s a crime against humanity when it’s done on a scale where thousands are affected. It is thousands that are affected and that’s why they won’t release the ATOS death figures of people that have died after being found fit for work in the WCA.

      It’ll be covered up and swept into the long grass if we let it happen, don’t do it.

  33. MOST PEOPLE HAD ADVENT CALENDARS ON THE RUN UP TO CHRISTMAS, BUT NOT IAIN DUNCAN SMITH OR BILL GUNNYEON…………….

    THEY HAD CUSTOM MADE ONES THAT GAVE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES MURDERED ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY.

    AS EACH DAYS CULL OF THE WEAKEST WAS REVEALED AS THE TINY PANEL WAS TORN BACK, THEY COULD HARDLY CONTAIN THEIR EMOTIONS!

    “HOW MANY THOUSANDS HAD WE ACTUALLY KILLED?”

    BOTH BILL AND IAN COULD BE HEARD CELEBRATING MANY STREETS AWAY………………

    BEST RING UNUM AND TELL THEM THE GOOD NEWS, BILL DECIDED, AS HE BENT FORWARD AND TOOK THE GLOWING TABLE FORK FROM HIS COAL FIRE AND BRANDED THE SCREACHING HAMSTER…….

    CHRISTMAS HAD COME ALL AT ONCE…………..

    …………….yet miles away another claimant raised the gun to his lips…

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  35. See what’s happening here, though: those twats at the BBC have put a spin on this. They broadcast a story the other day that “The government has ended ATOS’s contract early”. Whereas, in fact, it was ATOS who wanted out. Put simply, ATOS divorced the DWP, not vice versa.

    This is IDS and the other bastards’ way of avoiding responsibility for their own actions making it look like ATOS were the only ones to blame. Don’t let them get away with it.

    The cocksuckers at the BBC should all be “worked assessed”, preferably by an AK47.

  36. Politicians have a free pass to do what the heck they like called “collective responsibility”. See, nothing happens unless both the Cabinet AND enough MPs and Lords agree that it should happen or that somebody should have the power to make it happen. Thus responsibility for any suffering, pain or death that results is spread across hundreds of democratically elected individuals which prevents any one person from being blamed for anything that goes wrong. The best you can hope for is that a very incompetent, wicked or insane Minister of State can be forced to resign or sacked by the Prime Minister of the day and Cameron, despite wanting rid of IDS, for God alone knows what reasons hasn’t cut the deathly old fucker loose yet.

  37. What have we been saying for months/years about the Tories and the NHS and their deviant plans:
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fury-tory-party-donors-handed-3123469#.UySWQPU7yGo.twitter

  38. Look at the language used here to describe human beings. This is the real face of the Tories, referring to people as “stockpile”

  39. In the words of Caroline Lucas in the WOW debate she mentioned ‘corporate manslaughter’. the first time I’ve seen an MP refer to it as that.

    • The Green’s come from the same neoliberal political root, dependency would be swapped out for unsustainability in their welfare reform lingo.

      • Not true. They’ve always supported unconditional basic income scheme – the only sustainable way. Others in Europe are taking it seriously – it’s only the most unequal societies that say we can’t afford it

        • @Moggy,
          The basic income incentivising work principle is no different from the making work pay slogan of IDS. A basic income would always be at or below subsistence levels for the poor and unemployed. Based on we are all in this together universality rather than need it could turn out to be the biggest poverty trap ever created.

          Some of the calculations put the basic income below JSA levels.

          • No, you’re barking up the tree. I am NOT talking about Universal Chaos which isn’t UNCONDITIONAL. That’s a bastardization of it if even that. I will get you a Facebook link about it so you understand it when I’m next on here

          • hear hear voidseeker!

          • overburdenddonkey

            voidseeker
            no! the basic pay would always HAVE to be way above subsistence levels otherwise it would be useless ie the ESC report states that our benefit level are 40% lower than they ought to be and has asked the uk pretend govt to address this…

            Click to access UKXX2_en.pdf

            • Overburdendonkey – they don’t understand about unconditional basic income because they’re confusing it with conditional bastardization that IDS has called Universal credit which is nothing like unconditional basic income. If they can’t be arsed to go over to the Facebook Page to find out what’s happening and learn to think outside the box then they deserve to stay in ignorance. As I and many others see it, it’s the only thing that is sustainable and rids us of the con that money is conditional on us working. Er no, food, shelter and warmth are our birthright, simple as

              https://www.facebook.com/groups/basicincomeeurope/

              • Basic income is not thinking outside of the box, it is condemning you to a box!

                • GF, once again you are showing your complete ignorance and poor grasp of the argument. I can see that you’ve not increased your education or brain cell count since last time you showed your complete misunderstanding regarding the idea that everybody, no matter what they do or don’t do in life gets an income. Who the hell would argue with that? Go to the Facebook page and comment there. You might learn something (except I think you’re afraid to lest you have your preconceived ideas challenged). I’m not returning to this post to argue with someone who has no concept of the arguments so you can talk to yourself

              • overburdenddonkey

                moggy
                right…it will save billions in admin and health care….the list is massive, wellbeing would rocket…too tired atm to write much more, now..

                • Basic Income is the principle behind Universal Credit – making work pay – or as the BI lobby say incentivising work, the pressure on that basic income would be downwards or stagnation like the minimum wage.

                  Both BI and UC appear to share the same imperative keeping the unemployed on or below subsistence level in the uncertain objective of full employment.

                  In a grotesque twist of politics IDS shares the socialist ideal of full employment even to the point of imagining those jobs into his reality.

                • To obd and voidseeker

                  I have had all of these arguments with moggy before, she/he does not consider that basic income can be anything but a success and that their are no downsides to this economic theory or it’s cost analysis of it, instead prefers to throw insults at someone who can see beyond the end of their nose and thinks they are being objective.
                  I can’t stand people who think only they have a god given given right to an opinion, or insisting I read this by visiting facebook, I have read all i want to read on basic income and argued enough about it and I still have the same opinion thank you.

                • there not their.

                • I caught your reply in my emails obd and Voidskeeker’s. Voidseeker please read posts before commenting. Let me write it in capitals. UNIVERSAL CREDIT IS NOT UNCONDITIONAL BASIC GUARANTEED INCOME OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT. GO TO THE FACEBOOK PAGE – TO IGNORE IT IS TOTAL IGNORANCE. READ UP ABOUT UNCONDITIONAL GUARANTEED BASIC INCOME WHICH WAS AROUND FAR BEFORE IDS BASTARDIZATION. HIS IS CONDITIONAL, IT’S ALL ABOUT WORK WORK WORK. UNCONDITIONAL GUARANTEED INCOME FOR ALL MEANS GIVING EVERY HUMAN BEING AN INCOME. YOU SEEM TO HAVE BOUGHT THE ARGUMENT LOCK STOCK AND BARREL THAT YOU OWE WORK FOR YOUR LIVING. COME ON. YOU’VE BEEN SOLD A DUD

                • Ooops, sorry obd, only just seen your latest reply. I don’t read Guy Fawkes posts any more because he is rude and arrogant and won’t bother to read the difference between what we are saying and anybody with a bit of nous knows. I made all the same arguments ad nauseum but he can’t see past Universal Chaos. Maybe that was IDS is plan to confuse people who don’t understand. There may be still a hope with voidseeker though if he can get past the fact that we’re all singing from the same hymn sheet regarding universal credit/chaos and that what we’re talking about is the complete opposite. It is the word universal that is throwing them but IDS UC is not at all universal

                • overburdenddonkey

                  voidseeker…g fawkes…moggy
                  the basics imv….
                  UC and “enough hours” “enough pay” is different subject and i am not arguing for the retention of UC….that is if it ever rolls out and/or was ever intended to roll out and be anything other than it is, a figment of the pretend govs imagination…is not the same as a basic income, say of £150/wk per adult as basic benefits, with no conditionalites attached to them….which should go to all unemployed/sick and disabled people…ie those in need of an income as they have no jobs and cannot work….there will never be 4m+ extra decently paid “wellbeing” jobs in our economy, atm jobs are falling out of our economy like autumn leaves…
                  we definitely cannot continue in this destructive direction, as the toll on human lives is barbaric…wellbeing is caused by having work, and/or an basic income that provides enough income and in so doing/from, as what is comfortable for a human being to do on a daily basis ..so a new economic structure is required other than the present capitalist model…imv is should be based on permaculture and not the monetarist monoculture that exists now…the key stone of socialism is in knowing one’s own human rights and the natural application of human rights… the solution to the jobs puzzle… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22874889

                • overburdenddonkey

                  moggy
                  that all right it is a heated subject i understand that….

                • No worries, OBD. I just get sick of trying to explain to people who don’t want to understand…

                • OBD

                  You are wrong regarding the job situation, yes jobs are being lost for working class people but are being created for administrators, local law enforcers, baliffs etc, all of the jobs nothing but overbearing jobsworths would want and they will be increased to keep the general public in line.
                  Bi is not going to help those that will be left to rot on the basics, only those who will benefit from an extra income while taking up the right wing jobs, that believes in penalizing and punishing the public especially if they are out of work or belong to some other minority grouping.

                • by the way obd, I think Moggy and voidseeker are Fink playing out his good cop, bad cop routine again!

                • I can say with almost certainty that this isnt true, different ip addresses and Moggy’s been commenting here a long time.

                • Thanks Johnny. I’ve no idea who this Fink is and I’m usually a reasonable person but I am getting increasingly frustrated with this brick wall and confusion between Universal Income for all (as being pursued by more free-thinking and relatively Socialist-minded people in Europe) and Universal Credit aka Chaos as bastardised by IDS which is nothing of the sort. Perhaps you might think of doing a post on it as these people will listen to you but they’re not listening to me or OBD or anyone else who tried to explain it to them. I started off being polite but it’s just useless. Too many people have got stuck in the Protestant Work Ethic idea that in order to get the fundamentals of existence eg heat, warmth and food, you owe somebody something in the form of work. I don’t believe that. There’s not enough ‘work’ to go round. We don’t have to ‘pay’ for existence in terms of this narrow definition of ‘work’. Whether artist, carer, voluntary worker, old person, carer, disabled, layabout, we are all deserving of the basics of existence. It ain’t got anything to do with IDS. His pie-in-the-sky ideas are all to do with saving money, applying conditions and sanctions. Couldn’t be further from the idea of a universal unconditional income for all.

                • Johnny I know Moggy has been commenting here a long time with the same insulting, arrogant attitude as Fink. It is the voidseeker that is new and could be related to the fact that ‘the void’ has taken his comments off the site. Different ip addresses mean nothing.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  g fawkes
                  yes, many control freaks are being employed, at the loss of working class jobs
                  but those jobs are not being funded by extra economic capital/activity and also represent a net loss to the economy…which is part of the point i am trying to make see link regarding jobs riddle solved…
                  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22874889

                • Thanks for that obd,

                  Johnny Moggy has only ever been polite in their initial comments after that it has been insults all of the way, look back on old comments.

                • OBD

                  Just read your link to bbc ex economics editor stephanie flanders and googled her, see below.
                  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/10367545/Did-Stephanie-Flanders-flee-the-BBC-because-of-James-Harding.html

                  Economists like the legal profession are working mainly for the state, the state may convince those training in these disciplines who fight amongst themselves in the belief that their input can have any relevence to how economic decisions or judicial outcomes are arrived at, but we know it is the money men pulling the strings behind the puppets they have put in positions of power.

                  The banks are not lending not because of sub prime lending mistakes and all of the rest of the crap they have been feeding the electorate, they are either using banking capital investments to invest in manufacturing abroad where they can make huge profits, not by lending to industry here until they have reduced wages enough for the working class to make it worth their while to invest in industry and production and even then most of the work is done by apprentices when they start lending to business again.

                  The private sector has only increased jobs by stealing public money to fund the poverty pimps, increase the publics fear of crime and disorder to employ more so called crime fighters who believe they are doing their duty as a decent citizen to fine people for littering etc.
                  We have a week now of this crap being fed to us in the pipeline from channel 5.
                  If you ask me we definitely need more disorder in an effort to get rid of the quango’s, the unelected chamber and puppet politicians.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  g fawkes
                  yeah, briefly, i’m afraid so, follow the money and the banks are at the end of the trail….

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  41. Iain Duncan Smith MP

    My Dear Friends

    When you fight a war, against an enemy or benefit dependency, sadly collateral damage and deaths caused by friendly fire are inevitable. Every soldier lost diminishes us but sacrifices must be made, voluntarily or otherwise, to achieve positive effect and outcome. Benefit claimants who die to allow us to achieve a better tomorrow for all – particularly top rate tax payers – are heroes and should be remembered as such for all eternity. With their families and loved one we mourn those who have laid down their lives to help build a better future for our country for our children.

    God save the Queen!

    God bless you all!

    We are working for you.

    Iain

  42. Reblogged this on uppitymonkey and commented:
    Reblogging this because I completely agree, and I would love to see other leaders, ministers, etc held accountable for their criminal neglect when people’s lives are at stake.

  43. totallygivenup

    LORD HAW HAW LABOUR PEER RECOMMENDS PAYING TO STAY IN HOSPITAL WHAT THE FUCK!..LABOUR!

  44. Labour can’t be trusted, but the true left wing parties are too small.

  45. My WPP cannot be trusted. Not being given free first refusal over their ‘so-called’ job referrals goes againt my basic free rights as a UK resident. I am being treated worse than a prisoner. At least they have more freedom and rights than I get at present.

    I might mention to those useless tossers that I have been having sleepless nights yet again because of the hate I have now against them. I no longer trust them anymore with any of my personal information, whether or not they pass it on to outsiders with my writtten consent.

    One more stunt they pull, and this will be a formal written complaint about everything they have messed up.

  46. ‘An Update on Some JobCentre Madness’:

    An Update On Some JobCentre Madness

    At about 3:25 minutes into the video the JCP member of staff requests that he not be videorecorded, as he doesn’t want to give his personal data to the person filming. Yet JCP are quite happy to share jobseekers’ personal data with Work Programme Providers. JCP staff can also direct jobseekers to create a profile and CV on Universal Jobmatch, a site run for the DWP by Monster.

    • The WPP’s are no different than the Joke Centre Minus when it comes to jobseeker’s personal information. Yet when they are requested to cease and desist by consent withdrawal letters, they blatantly ignore this.

    • I’ll give the lady 10 out of 10 for stamina. I would have lost it very quickly.

  47. Lots of great posts on this, well done all.

  48. Another Fine Mess

    George Osborne aims for full employment.
    Well he might as well, he’s failed at everything else. More sanctions on the way then.

    “George Osborne has committed the Conservatives to targeting “full employment”, saying that tax and welfare changes would help achieve it.”
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26814423

    • overburdenddonkey

      a f s
      the man is barking..what’s he going to do import flat pak jobs from abroad?

    • Another Fine Mess

      They create 1.6 m fake non jobs, and then they wonder why;
      Britain’s tax take comes up short http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/08b32a50-b7fa-11e3-92f9-00144feabdc0.html#ixzz2xXnUJAdp

    • Any updates on the “help to work” mass workfare due to be introduced in April?

      I wonder how this latest announcement ties in with these workfare plans…

      • Help to Work is supposed to start tomorrow on April 1. Let’s hope it’s an April Fool joke! I’m eligible and haven’t heard a word about it from the jobcentre yet.

      • Another Fine Mess

        No updates, JC ‘advisers’ don’t know anything about it!

        “I wonder how this latest announcement ties in with these workfare plans…”
        I wondered that, he’s probably forgotten about that, although he did mention apprenticeships. Which just means sticking ‘apprenticeship’ on the front of everything and dropping the pay to £2.68 ph.

    • More hard sanctioning and tougher compliance measures to come AFM you can bet on it. There are no proper jobs just a bunch of zero hour contract shit one’s and the fake one’s that are everywhere. So he’s going to force more people into workfare to make it look as though they are employed or sanction them to get them off the register.

      That’s how this pathetic bunch want to “create?” full employment.

      What a friggin’ joke.

      • The JCP/WPP/DWP can fuck off if they are even thinking of pissing over us.

        My WPP is now asking for trouble from me for pissing me around with sanction threats today. cunts. I’m demanding they get my fucking rights as a uk citizen taken notice of,

      • Another Fine Mess

        A job is what you do for 35-40 hours per week, get paid for doing it, and no longer have to visit the sanction center.
        The fact that he thinks ‘tax and welfare changes would help achieve it’ shows even he doesn’t believe his own bollocks.

      • The DWP no longer sanction any JSA claimant if they fail to take up, apply for, or continue in zero-hour contract work. If offered no pay work, tell the cunts the law now is on your side.

  49. Whatever we think of IDS we know he will end up in the house of lords one day getting a nice few quid for sleeping on a comfortable seat. It wouldn’t surprise me if it’s a labour government that makes him a lord in the distant future.
    I’m still waiting for Miliband to speak like a true caring labour leader but I don’t think that will happen in my lifetime and no decent caring person will ever get to the top of the labour ladder again with it being taken over by career minded politicians.

  50. I got a call from dwp on thurs telling me I had failed my medical and was therefore fit for work…for the sake of my young daughter I managed to get to the jcp the next day to start signing on again…after enduring the ordeal during which I had a panic attack and was crying virtually throughout I returned home to a weekend of hell……the stress of it all brought on a major depressive episode resulting in a visit to my docs this morning where I was given 2 new lots of medication and told to up my existing tablets…..prior to this I had felt I was making slight progress but am now back to minus square 1….. so thanks a feckin bunch to the lot of them…..NOT

  51. Another Fine Mess

    Live Work and Pensions questions starring IBS @ 14:30.
    According to freeview C81. I can’t wait!

  52. According to a report in today’s Daily Heil, Osborne is saying the Tories will be the party of job creation. He also added that Help to Work will force long-term unemployed people to do tasks to claim their dole from next month.

    We shall see.

    • Yep. Osborne didn’t actually say that full employment meant paid employment for all. The workfare nation is here folks. The underclass will be transformed into the workfare class.

  53. Robin The Boy Wonder

    Of course IDS should be put on trial for all his heinous crimes, lies and discrimination. But he won’t, we all know that… Just like we know there will be no major riots in the UK this summer. There are far too many people who just aren’t arsed: Either because it doesn’t affect them (or their pockets), or because they swallow all that Daily Heil/Express/BBC bollocks about the “Scrounging Classes”….

    If anything, IDS will probably become Lord Duncan Smith somewhere down the line (he will probably be given a peerage by a Labour fucking government!), and he will get all the perks that go with it until he dies. Just like Maggie got away with murder, lived to a ripe old age and then got a bloody state funeral!

  54. Formal DPA 1998 complaint has now been sent to my WPP after they have failed to take notice of me with last weeks letter.

    • Another Fine Mess

      They’ll have booked a party for your leaving date.
      Anymore on the ’employers fair’ date. Google the location and date and you might find some organisations claiming to be going.

  55. I’ll know this week which employer will be attending the jobs fair. My complaint has been sent by e-mail to head office. If they take no notice or ignore it, i will send copies to the JCP and the WPP office in person. I may even e-mail a copy to my local MP for good measure.

  56. My WPP is now fully in the loop over fucking me over. I expect a full apology and recognition of my rights from them when I next attend again, otherwise my MP gets to hear about this.

  57. Another Fine Mess

    First item on tonight’s Newsnight was Osborne’s full employment, Paxman vs. clueless Nicky Morgan, still no clues to where these mythical 4m jobs are going to come from.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04004mw

    • Yeah i watched that AFM, she was totally clueless and would have been better not turning up as she made herself look a bit silly.

    • Workfare, that’s where these mythical 4m jobs are coming from. Simple as that. It’ll drive wages down a treat, that one…

  58. could you please warn people before they click on daily mail links! some of us prefer not to give that rag anymore web traffic than they already have.

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      LET’S KICK AWAY THEIR CRUTCHES,
      IGNORE THEIR PAINS AS WELL,
      CONGRATULATE TRIBUNALS,
      AND SEND THEM OFF TO HELL….

      SELECT SOME NEW ASSASSINS,
      THOUGH ATOS DID IT’S BEST,
      PLENTY MORE NEED MURDERING,
      WITH A TICK BOX KIND OF TEST….

      BILL GUNNYEON AND CAROL BLACK,
      ENABLED WELFARE KILLING,
      IAIN DUNCAN SMITH, MCVEY AND FREUD,
      BUTCHERS THAT WERE WILLING…..

      IN CEMETERIES AND ORNATE URNS,
      YOU LEAVE YOUR TWISTED BRAND,
      COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF DEAD VICTIMS,
      THAT IS GETTING OUT OF HAND………..

      CORPORATE MANSLAUGHTER COMES EASY,
      WHEN UNUM PULLS THE STRINGS,
      OF IT’S PUPPETS IN THE GOVERNMENT,
      THE MURDER WELFARE KINGS…………

      ALWAYS LOOK BEHIND YOU,
      YOUR ILL DEEDS SEEM TO SAY,
      WILL CATCH UP WITH YOU TOMORROW,
      FOR CRIMES YOU DID TODAY…….

      YOUR VICTIMS SING FROM ONE HYMN SHEET,
      WE WANT YOU BASTARDS CAUGHT,
      FOR CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY,
      AND THE TERROR THAT YOU BROUGHT………

      SO, CARRY ON YOUR HEINOUS CULL,
      OF THOSE TOO WEAK TO FIGHT,
      THE TRAIL OF DEATH THAT YOU INSPIRED,
      IS STARTING TO COME TO LIGHT………..

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  60. http://alextalbot.blogspot.co.uk/2014/04/the-great-psychology-experiment-with.html
    ‘…the irrationality and cruelty demonstrated by some of the examples that MP’s gave hinted at something more sinister and I began to wonder if something along the lines of the Stanford experiment was in fact taking place. The mind-set of those some of those operating the system was most starkly revealed by a recruitment agent Kelly-Jane Stone who openly boasted on Twitter of the satisfaction she felt when her actions led to someone having their benefits stopped.[2]

  61. There is one way to stop Iain Duncan-smith and the DWP and the Jobcentre Plus and the job centre plus staff and the g4 security staff and that is to use your mobile phones and use the video on your phone to record everytime that you go to your local job centre plus and please make sure that you have a piece of paper that the DWP put on line saying that you can record in job centre plus and also make sure that you take plenty of copies, instead of the original and also that g4 security guards are not police officers they cannot put their hands on any jobseeker and if they do, the police will be called and they will be arrested for assault and you will press charges and you will make sure that they will lose their job and make sure you have the assault on video for evidence against you and than explain to the police, why you were filming for your own security and to make sure that you was not being tricked or coned or miss said anything or that you didn’t turn up for any appointment or interview at the job centre.

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    • nigel musgrove

      yes that was terrible wasn;t it, this time last year i was readin these tragic things and thinking, well to be honest not sure what because it seemed no way out, but?/

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  64. After being tested and tested and tested and tested, told fit for work, appealed, left with no money for months, having to beg at Food Banks after being hospitalized through hunger, I’m told I have to go through it all over again with Maximus???

    I can’t take it any more!!!!

    Isn’t anyone, anyone like the United Nations going to something?

    These Conservative bastards are killing thousands of us!!!!

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