Huge Victory For Sick And Disabled Claimants As Atos Chased Out Of Vicious Benefit Assessments

atoskillsgrafFrench IT firm Atos saying they are planning to pull out of Work Capability Assessments, the shambolic and cruel tests designed to strip away benefits from sick and disabled people, is the most humiliating blow yet for Iain Duncan Smith’s bodged attempt at reforming social security.

In a stunning victory for campaigners, Atos say the Work Capability Assessment isn’t working, for them, claimants themselves and even the hapless DWP.  The attempt at early withdrawal from the contract comes just days after protests were held outside Atos assessment centres in towns and cities across the UK.

The astounding announcement also sheds new light on The Guardian story which revealed that the DWP were secretly plotting to get rid of Atos and bring in new contractors to run the tests.  There is truly no honour amongst these thieves as Atos and the DWP bicker in public about who dumped who first.  Meanwhile poverty pimps like Capita and G4S will be salivating at the prospect of Iain Duncan Smith stuffing their mouths with gold to try and keep his bungled welfare reforms alive.

Atos has blamed abuse and death threats made towards their so-called ‘healthcare’ professionals as one reason they want to withdraw from the contract early.  Yet Atos must have known that taking on a contract designed to impoverish sick and disabled claimants would lead to them becoming despised.  It is no surprise that a very small number of people facing the WCA displayed what social workers call ‘challenging behaviour’.  Any social care professional or even copper could have warned them  about this.  If Atos were unable to put in policies and procedures that kept their staff safe then they only have themselves to blame.

When people have been driven to suicide by the vile activities of this company, their whining about few scabby doctors being slagged off on twitter rings a little fucking hollow.  The truth is that Atos have seen their brand made toxic all over the world by their involvement in these tests – which only represent a very small part of their business.  This is almost certainly the real reason they have decided to embarrass the DWP by very publicly trying to abandon this contract.

This announcement does not represent the end of the WCA, but it could be the beginning of the end.  Anything that at least slows the bastards down should be welcomed.  This victory should be used as a springboard to escalate the campaign against whichever odious profiteers decide to take over the hated WCA.

If Atos think they are off the hook however they are sorely fucking mistaken.   There has been no announcement from the company about their involvement (along with Capita) in assessments for Personal Independence Payments – the replacement for Disability Living Allowance designed to cut benefits from 20% of disabled people.  These tests have barely begun and already are a shambles with claims taking months on end to administer.  It will be those in and out of work alike who face these assessments which are little different from the WCA that Atos have just condemned.  If the company think they’ve had problems with out of work sick and disabled people just wait and see what happens when they are assessing lawyers, other doctors, and even MPs.

Atos are also expected to be involved in George Osborne’s mass workfare scheme which begins in April.  Claimants already found ‘fit for work’ by Atos could be abused by company again and forced to undertake 780 hours of unpaid ‘community work’ just for the crime of being unemployed.

Atos may be on the run, but they should be ruthlessly chased down until they pull out of all government contracts designed to bully, impoverish and harass sick, disabled or unemployed people.  Until that day comes, Atos should remain firmly in the firing line.

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232 responses to “Huge Victory For Sick And Disabled Claimants As Atos Chased Out Of Vicious Benefit Assessments

  1. Anyone who replaces them will be just as bad!! Count on it, if so it’s hardly a victory is it?

    • JUDGE J. D. WALL AND TRIBUNAL PANEL GLOAT AS FRIEND PLEADS FOR DLA TO BE RETURNED IN ORDER TO FEED HIS FAMILY PROPERLY”

      I don’t really say a lot, but this week i had the displeasure of witnessing thr true evil in our society. The one that Cameron and his cronies, deny is happening.
      Shocked, i am not. It is occurring in every town across the UK.

      Watching a grown disabled man, a good friend, pleading to have more than the £32 he is given, raised back to his former DLA that was stolen after a worthless ATOS medical.

      Indeed, i left the tribunal with a feeling of mixed emotions, holding back tears as i saw first hand the evil that men do.
      These people on tribunal benches ar far from being human, they are state picked disability assassins.

      My friend explained that he and his partner and son had been reduced to eating cream crackers and cups of soup to survive, going on to tell in detail how they had not been able to light the gas fire for the last four years.
      If the government says that a person needs £71 a week to live on, why force a disabled man and his family to live on less?

      People like Judge J D Wall should be immediately struck off, compassion for another human being is not in their vocabulary!

      I will never forget that awful day as long as i live. It will be firmly etched into my memory.

      The DWP used to pick on me all the time until i mentioned that i had suicidal thoughts. Some things have changed slightly, some treat me like a human being, but others, mainly women, are ever so cruel.
      The rising cost of diesel fuel and forced redundancy caused me to be unemployed.

      Like my friend, we are neither shirkers or whatever else the government run media throw at us, we are trapped by unfortunate events in time.

      Disability Denial is alive and kicking, i have seen it with my own eyes.
      As the tribunal drew to a close, the tribunal judge asked me if i had anything to say.

      I said nothing, tears in my eyes.

      “Why are they persecuting those who are least likely to respond?”

      Or is that government policy, to bully those who already carry the heaviest burden, the disabled?

      • http://inagist.com/all/437226058803576832

        BISHOPS WERE DUPED INTO POSTING ANTI WELFARE REFORM LETTER CLAIMS DESPARATE TORIES

        • overburdenddonkey

          chewie
          why did you post the above….to let me know what exactly…and what action do you feel that i should take other than i already do?

      • @Toddy poor old Geoff they bloody well put him through all this shit and for what ? Not just money butvdome fucking respect.

      • off topic

        I have been married to my beautiful thai wife for over two and a half years,
        She is not a bar girl, she is a nurse in a Bangkok hospital (no i haven’t had a dose, before you ask).
        The wedding took place in my wifes village, the whole village turned out including the mayor, it was a really colourful event.

        My wedding was registered both in the uk and Thailand, through the proper channels and embassy’s yet i have been kept from my bride.

        I applied for her to come over to be with me but was informed that i would have to be employed and earning over eighteen and a half thousand per year.
        I lost my driving job, i was on the brink of despair feeling suicidal……….

        I then asked if she could come and stay with me for a month and return to her hospital in Bangkok to continue working.

        The government agency even blocked this application saying that because i had asked for her to come indefinitely on my first application, it was proof that she would not return after a visit…………

        TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITHOUT BEING WITH MY WIFE, THE CRUELTY OF THE UK GOVERNMENT IS SCANDALOUS.

        • A lot of people are asking ‘What do we do now’ in light of the release of the article yesterday stating that ATOS are ‘Outsource Group Seeks Exit from UK £500m Benefits Contract After Death Threats’ –
          http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/5abc8d36-9a28-11e3-8232-00144feab7de.html#axzz2ttiKQHBj
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          FIRSTLY:
          ———-
          Atos had already stated they were ending their WCA contract with the Govt’s DWP early. This is not to say that the Atos Nat’l Demos were not a success – THEY WERE A SUCCESS AND MUCH MORE!

          SECONDLY:
          ————
          There are three major corporations baying at the bit to snatch up and secure the Govt’s DWP/WCA contract right at this moment, namely:
          1) SERCO
          2) G4S
          3) CAPITA (the ‘scent on the wind’ is that it will be CAPITA)

          By all means keep up the momentum of pressure by continuing to boycott ATOS Centre’s as this will send a clear message to the new in-coming corporation of our disdain and ability to expose them.

          QUOTE:
          ‘Yes, the Demonstrations were a success but this week, next week, next month those envelopes will still drop through the doors of disabled people telling them to attend WCA’s or stating they are fit to work in jobs that simply do not exist.’ ~ Carl Green.

          As for profits and share-holders, it seems highly co-incidental that ATOS’s share’s dropped on the same day as the Nat’l Demo’s:

          https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=770041719691632&set=a.415228958506245.118814.259364897425986&type=1&theater (thank you Glenn Ltb Mrosek)

          As one of our readers, Martin Riemer, aptly said:

          ‘A German saying: “The customer is king”
          – SO LET US RULE WISELY.’

          THIRDLY:
          ———-
          With regards to the ‘death threats’ ATOS say they have received. Currently and at this present time these are heresay, speculation and/or rumours. I would suggest that until ATOS release substantiated evidence and/or a completed or ongoing police investigation, their accusations should be treated with as much validity as rocking horse poop.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          We need to go to the source IMO. Target and challenge the Govt directly.

          1) Lobby MP’s locally as Sarah Hemingway says – work.htmlhttp://www.parliament.uk/about/contacting/mp/

          Contacting your MP
          http://www.parliament.uk
          Contacting your MP, MPs have public contact details so their constituents can get in touch. In most cases you can write, phone, fax or email.

          Use the power we have as a UK citizen and constituent. Book an appointment with your MP on their open surgery days and inform them of what is going on with personal ATOS/WCA stories AND factual evidence of ATOS with reference to monetary misuse/tax avoidance etc –

          http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10442231/Atos-G4S-paid-no-corporation-tax-last-year-despite-carrying-out-2billion-of-taxpayer-funded-work.html

          2) For those that can get to London I recommend looking into attending any Select Committee hearings relating to anything DWP/WCA and Bedroom Tax.

          It is free to attend, you can just turn up and walk in/wheelchair/triolerator/walking-stick etc. You will learn much more by being sat in a room feet away from either IDS or Lord Fraud. It also un-nerves them which may be a pleasant experience for some of you –

          http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/committees/select/

          This list is by no means exhaustive.
          Please add thoughts/ideas.

          ~S

          Copied and pasted from recent Atos Miracles blog site..

      • It occurs to me (and most of us) that this is a deliberate persecution by the State towards Geoff, your friend and a much admired contributor here.
        It appears they are making an example of what will happen when the peasants don’t follow the ever changing rules and regulations.
        It is clear from all that you have written about this Toddy, and what Geoff has said about the matter, the State accepts Geoff has problems that affect his ability to work. Though they have also deliberately falsified information to make it sound less difficult on for their paper files.
        It is the Tribunal were not in the least interested in the disabilities or ill health or anything else.
        This guy dared to question the system set in place, and that is not to be tolerated.

        As it has been explained to us here, Geoff was awarded DLA for life. How can the State overturn this when it is clear his own doctors make say nothing has changed regards their client’s condition?
        But that is part of the reason for creating the new PIP system.
        The State can now, at its whim, overturn such Life Awards, and take ppl’s monies away completely.
        It could be argued that all Geoff had to do was fill in the form and all would have been well..…
        But far too many have made that very same mistake, and have found to their cost, it has not been “that simple” Nothing’s been well ever since. Besides, according to Geoff, he asked questions about the actual need for this form in his particular case, and not been given the answers.

        We can only conclude that this appeal panel had its mind made up long ago.
        There was no impartiality. There was no justice. Just as there was no Justice in the English Appeal Court on Friday regards Bedroom Tax.

        It is war against the poor. It has always been war against the poor ever since Thatcher. But the REGIME have taken it almost as far as it can go. There will come a tipping point however………

        • True, it’s like attending a Court of Just-Ice… the ‘verdict’ was already determined before Geoff set foot over the ‘Tribunal’ doorstep.

  2. it’s definitely a major victory showing that we can get rid of corporate scum, force down their share prices and make recruitment impossible for not only ATOS but all the others. However we aren’t going to let ATOS off the hook and have plans lined up to haunt them both at the Commonwealth Games this year and the Pan Am Games in Toronto next year. They may be transnational corporations but our movement and our supporters are also international

    • @Linda Burnip. Hey Linda good to see you on here. Thanks for letting me be a member of DPAC. Proud I am one as well
      If you need help just let me know ok ?
      Cheers Bob..

    • In regard to Linda’s comments, which I fully endorse, I have already written to Atos North America and the organizers of the TORONTO 2015 Pan Am/Parapan Am Games: http://mydisabilitystudiesblackboard.blogspot.ca/2014/02/my-letter-to-atos-north-america-and.html, but have not received a response from them.

      • @mr miller i do so hope they reply if only for the ” entertainment value ” sadly …i rather think though it will be operational bullshit which has become the standard practice
        As an aside I do so hope that the ” death threat ” matter will not be used to silence criticism of govt or welfare policy..

        You can’t trust these feckers ..

      • NICE LETTER SAM, VERY WELL WRITTEN.

        KEEP UP THE PRESSURE ON THE INSTRUMENTS OF EVIL, THE DWP AND ATOS……………..

        SADLY THE ONLY SPORTS THESE ARSEHOLES SHOULD SPONSOR IS;

        “DEATH RACE 2000”

    • So how is it no-one can get rid of G4S? They are running the country I.e prisons and courts. They are much more bullying and amoral than atos ever was!!!!
      Look at the olympics fiasco ran by G4S, they don’t care who they hurt as long as they are making money hand over fist!!!!
      I really wouldn’t be surprised if they got the contract, if so expect things to be much, much worse!?!

      • G4S supply ‘security guards’ for my lame JCP, but I use the words ‘security guard’ very loosely as they can’t do nothing without a rocket up their arses.

        ATOS is short for ‘A Bunch of Tossers’

        One fucking out-sourced company gone. Now let’s target the work programme and force all the scam providers from existence before WPP clients start hanging themselves in their offices at the sheer desperation, lies and despair that these ugly places leech out and claim that ‘we are helping the un-washed unemployed plebs’

        • G4S do supply muppets for JCP but quickly back down if threatened. One security guard was regularly on my case about my phone ringing in their interrogation office, to be told feck off or die, he just used to walk away!
          It has taken nearly 30 years but ATOS want out let them go, at a cost, and keep on at them over any contracts they have while persuing anyone who gets the new contract.

          • One of the G4S goons at my JCP is an arrogant, twisted little cunt – I hate the smug fucking ugly twat. Hope he gets sacked as my JCP is advertising for part-time ‘security’ guards.

      • It’ my fear that G4S will get the contract too. But…after the Atos fiasco they should be running scared. Claimants, campaigners, disability groups and left-wing politicians will be monitoring them closely. One bitten and all that…

    • In case anyone doesn’t know. The BBC’s IT, telephony and broadcast technology were brought together as BBC Technology Ltd in 2001, and the division was later sold to the German engineering and electronics company Siemens IT Solutions and Services (SIS). SIS was subsequently acquired from Siemens by the French company ATOS.

      The BBC BTW is just an empty shell compared to what it used to be. BBC Broadcast was spun off as a separate company in 2002, and in 2005 it was sold off to Australian-based Macquarie Capital Alliance Group and Macquarie Bank Limited and rebranded Red Bee Media. BBC Books was sold to Random House in 2006; BBC Outside Broadcasts Ltd was sold in 2008 to Satellite Information Services; Costumes and Wigs was sold in 2008 to Angels The Costumiers; BBC Magazines was sold to Immediate Media Company in 2011; a photographic archive which had been acquired from the Picture Post magazine by the BBC in 1957 was sold and is now owned by Getty Images. The BBC’s current Political Editor, Nick Robinson, was once chairman of the Young Conservatives – and you wonder why BBC coverage of poverty in this country is so bad.

  3. The real reason for all this persecution of the poor and disabled is a great fear by the elite that one day we will turn the tables and chase them down to answer for their chronic imbalances of justice and truth and they shit themselves for the possibility of a fairer society!

  4. I don’t know about it being a huge victory (yet) but we can live in hope.

    I doubt that ATOS will pull out of the contract. The government are using ATOS to cover for far worse things they are doing to us themselves. ATOS are the perfect distraction. I’d be happier to see both the WCA and the PIP assessments ditched for good.

    It’s extremely unlikely that ATOS give a flying fuck about the “death threats” to their staff as history tells me that a one time boss of ATOS, managed to achieve the highest rates of suicide (ever) amongst the workers of a large French telecoms company, during his period of office.

    Note how they are making a big fuss about “death threats” and not the actual deaths of those whom these unemployable dregs of health care, actually assessed. It would have been more appropriate for ATOS to be withdrawing due to shame.

    There would be huge penalty clauses on both sides to get out of such a massive contract. I don’t think either party would be keen on paying up. If there is to be an early termination of the ATOS WCA contract, then it’s likely to be a last ditch scramble to find anyone they can, even the dead, fit for work.

    Contracts contrived in panic to allow the tories and ATOS to walk away from each other aren’t likely to be contrived to the benefit of the poor claimants are they?

    Unless the WCA and PIP are ditched, things will just get much worse.

    • Also i fail to see how on earth they ” employ ” HCP staff from UDC which does business training …very odd indeed ..

    • The sick and disabled will be blamed!!!

      • overburdenddonkey

        joanna
        yes, they’ll blame anyone they can to keep their denial intact….

        • http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565297/Sickness-benefit-tests-firm-pulls-500million-contract-death-threats-staff.html
          SICKNESS BENEFIT TESTS FIRM PULLS 500 MILLION CONTRACT BECAUSE OF DEATH THREATS.

          Yep exactly as I suspected they are spinning the death threat stuff. Its in the headlines
          So question is who is breifing the newspapers ? Atos or DWP ?
          If Atos then its face saving if DWP then something is afoot ..and my concern would be about campaigners
          Don’t forget this comes on the back of gagging law..which was in papers saying what if they had to close blogs down

          Hollow victory guys ..i dont like this one tiny bit no sirree

          Stay tuned

          • overburdenddonkey

            chewie
            imo, the dwp will be more hands on up to and including the WCA and beyond…”think might work” , reconsiderations, then with mandatory reconsiderations, using the internet for medical condition guidance and make more use of telephone interviews etc…..do more in house…for a while at least…imv, they are trying to keep control of the process…
            http://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/735/

        • Atos Healthcare staff are increasingly coming under attack, source claims
          Around 160 incidents of staff being assaulted or abused each month last year
           Atos has been in discussions about ending contract for ‘several months’

          YOU SEE WHERE THIS COULD BE GOING ??

        • Examples on social networking sites include someone calling staff ‘murdering scumbags’, adding: ‘We won’t be smiling when we come to hang you b******s.’ Another said: ‘Know anyone who works for Atos? Kill them.’

          Hmmmm….

        • “Looks like this thread has been hijacked by lazy dole dossers. I’d never heard of Atos but you all seem to know them well. funny how all these comments are in the middle of the night when any one who’s been grafting all week was in bed. It must be nice to be able to play all night and sleep it off during the day in your free house with your tax payer funded PC and Internet connection. God bless this Atos.”

          Daily Heil comment

          • HAHA NOW WE ARE DOSSERS TOO

            So to summerise
            We are: lazy benefit scrounging criminal gangster terrorist over breeding flat screen tellly watching behind closed curtain child and animal killing BMW free car driving DOSSERS living in free mansions in ghettos

            • Fuck the Daily Heil. I’m working my gnads off all the time trying to find any sort of half-decent work. They have a fucking cheek to say I’m lazy.

              Any electronic gadget luxuries I have were bought ONLY after when I had scrimped and saved for months on end before I even had the money to buy them. I don’t get fuck all each two weeks as it is gone straight on rent, nothing else.

              I’m trying to currently save up (very slowly) for more additions to my Model Railway collection. At this rate It’ll take me six months to buy just one more fucking Hornby Locomotive. My gadgets and models stop me from climbing the fucking walls in despair at the lack of any half-decent job. So the daily heil can fuck off if they think people like me are rolling in JSA each week and spending it like water.

              As soon as I get my money in one hand, it’s all gone out of the next hand within minutes on rent.

              • @AWP. Yeah i know. I thought I would collect up all the screeching headlines and put them together to show how stupid and contradictory they all were

                Ps good luck on yr trainset
                I used to have Triang TT series whilst my big brother had double O guage

                • We used to have Fleischmann models – we used to sneak under the roller shutter in the shop and knick ’em… 🙂

              • Slightly off-topic with a mention of my model railway hobby, but the point I am trying to put across is, the government simply don’t want anybody to have some enjoyment out of life and don’t want us to have a bit of money unless in work and thus taxes being deducted from the wages to pay for the public toffs.

                My gadgets and hobbies stop me from going up the wall in despair. The government don’t want people to enjoy life to the full if money is stripped away. They want us to work until we drop and pay their wages through taxation, not be allowed to spend a bit of money for our well-being, and be slaves.

                All benefits are taxed, especially JSA. I should know this as every March/April I get a tax form detailing how much JSA has been taxed their previous 12-month period.

        • A spokesman insisted it would not ‘walk away’ from the contract and that it would continue to provide a service until new contractors had been appointed.

          ‘For several months now we have been endeavouring to agree an early exit from the work capability assessment contract,’ the spokesman said.

          ‘We will not walk away from a front-line service. Our focus remains on delivering the services we are contracted to provide in a professional and compassionate way until a new service begins.’

          However, relations with the Department for Work and Pensions appear to be close to breakdown amid persistent criticism over the quality of Atos’s assessments.

          Kate Green, shadow minister for disabled people, said: ‘People have been badly let down by Atos. But changing the contract isn’t enough. It’s time for the government to fundamentally reform work capability assessments so disabled people who can work are given support they need to find a job.’

          The DWP yesterday refused to comment.

          I bet ….so its business as usual for this
          ” compassionate ” company till further notice

          The article reported that Atos came under criticism from ” Left Wing ” critics

          They must have meant those Tory MPs who contributed to the 3 hour debate in parliament
          Given the Daily Hate stance any Tory MP who is not a dyed in the wool thatcherite neo con is a ” lefty “

          • Chewie

            It sounds like labour are still in the business of forcing the sick out to work (that if there is any work to go to) if Kate Green’s words are anything to go by. It will be business as usual towards the sick if Labour get into power.

          • The DWP will always refuse to comment on anything that will put them in a bad light, either excessive use of sanctions, failing work programme figures, the ATOS scandal or IDS getting rebuked.

            The DWP are a law unto themselves and really should be made fully accountable to every person in the UK. Every company in the UK, by law, have to release end of tax year accounts, unless I am mistaken. And if this is the case, the DWP should also show us in full detail net and gross figures of their expenditures.

            If we were in full facts of how much money they are handed each year and how much is spent where needed or how much is wasted on vanity projects, the final figure would show total outgoings in wastage would be more than payments given to them to keep the corrupt thing going.

            IDS is no more than a corrupt manager using petty cash to keep his company afloat by whatever means legit or not. Managers can be sacked if company accounts are being fiddled. Why hasn’t the bald berk been sacked for excessive wastage along with pure vanity and Daily Heil friendly bollocks?

    • Yep. And meanwhile the DWP get off scot-free. Atos = SS, IDS = the Fuhrer.

    • Yes Lucy
      how sickening they moan about the fact their staff are getting death threats, after they themselves cause so many deaths. They are not upset about the deaths they have caused then? They make my skin crawl. They make me feel sick.

  5. Even better news (although I’ll believe it when I see it) is that Labour have said that they will also reform the whole ESA/WCA system, which is essential – getting rid of Atos would not have been enough, leaving the same absurdly inadequate descriptors in place. This overhaul by Labour won’t necessarily mean getting rid of work capability assessments, but hopefully it may mean fairer forms and assessments, hopefully by experienced and qualified assessors.

    True what you say about the Atos brand being now toxic.

  6. D Cook left an annotation (21 February 2014)

    this is part of a letter I sent David Cameron (personal details I have omitted)

    Dear Mr Cameron,

    I am writing this letter to ask you when you are going to end your attack on the sick, disabled and unemployed. Your polices have driven the disabled to suicide and penury, allow me to elucidate:
    I am fifty-five and in that time I have never involved myself in politics, e.g. I never got involved in the poll tax demonstrations and myriads of other things that put people’s backs up in my lifetime. I led my life quietly, daily caring for two-close disabled relatives and I did this with little money and no complaints, that was until your systematic attack on the disabled, which has made a disabled activist out of me and I was the most politically laid back person on earth.
    As soon as you became prime minister you and your (complicit) ministers’ began the most vicious attack on the poor since the Tudor poor laws, which began initially with the help of the media (especially the Daily Mail) your skiver v striver rhetoric courted controversy and there wasn’t a day go by when skivers’ wasn’t demonised in the news and the likes of Osbourne and Iain Duncan Smith tried to use Mick Philpott as their ‘poster child’ for benefit claimants’.
    Very few people (outside those effected by your cuts) complained: ATOS was exposed on BBCs Panorama and Channel 4’s Dispatches; even then it didn’t have much effect on non-disabled people – that was until you went too far! Since last summer, there wasn’t a week go by that the most sick and chronically physically and mentally disabled wasn’t found fit for work, cases like David Coupe that died whilst found fit for work when on appeal, I’m sure you remember when Dennis Skinner lambasted you in parliament last October? Even Richard III was found “fit” for work!
    I could add hundreds of cases like David Coupe’s: cases like my son who is in a catch 22 situation, you won’t allow him to claim ESA and his autism prevents him from signing on, so all he has is his DLA to live off, until you take that off him with DLA to PIP assessments. It’s galling to think that you had a disabled son that you claimed DLA, how would you have liked to have been treated the same way that you treat others?
    What angers me most is how you kept changing the law to suit your attack on the disabled, firstly, because there were so many successful appeals, you now have to await a mandatory reconsideration before you go to appeal and you have to starve whilst awaiting a decision, some have committed suicide and many have had to rely on food banks because they have no income. Even then the disabled – given no choice – STILL appealed and so you moved the goalposts further by considering charging for DWP appeals, how monstrous can you get? Do you think it will stop the disabled (that have NO choice) from appealing?
    The situation has become that untenable that even the UN has criticised your bedroom tax policy. I am not a victim of the bedroom tax, but, I know that good people that are and it’s making their lives unbearable, especially as there’s NO smaller properties to move to. Is your hatred of the precariat that bad that you are prepared to see them out on the streets or in workhouses? A wise man once wrote: ‘Starvation makes the anarchist out of the meek’ I truly believe the demonstrations outside all the ATOS offices this week are testament to this and it’s just the beginning of the rebellion that’s to come and the acquisition of water cannons et al will not stop the festering anger, anger that will make the London riots like the queen’s tea party. I’m no prophet or anarchist; nevertheless, I don’t have to be either to foresee the outcome of your policies. Even ATOS are abandoning the sinking ship and want out of their contract with the DWP.
    It’s not just the disabled that have been severely affected by the welfare “reforms”, I want to relate to you one experience of JSA sanctioning and please don’t tell me this is humane:
    My friend’s daughter was sanctioned – the week her father died (January 2013) – for not looking for enough jobs! (n.b she was NOT workshy she’d been laid off from her job in hospitality – due to the recession)
    3 months she was without money!!!!
    Have you any idea how your reforms have impacted on:
    The NHS as I write this a mentally ill woman is in a coma because she was denied ESA and mental health problems have rocketed.
    SOCIAL SERVICES are inundated with cries of help off people that they wouldn’t ordinary see pre welfare “reform” days
    THE POLICE the police and courts have been full of people whose crime was to steal when hungry, because you denied them benefits.
    SCHOOLS: have to deal with absences due to sanctions of parents and trying to find places for children that have to move due to the bedroom tax.
    COURTS: appeal courts are bursting at the seams with DWP appeals and debt collection for arrears from council tax and Bedroom tax.
    I could write a thesis on the impact of your welfare “reforms”, but, what’s the point, you will not listen, just don’t say you weren’t warned when the impact on your welfare reforms go into meltdown.

    Link to this

  7. @Johnny as I posted earlier ..it was reported last year that cameron was thinking of ditchng them and Fester McVile even hinted at ditching them too.
    I note that on Atos own blog they reported about the protest against them which is highly unusual for them

    • Only because they’re now doing all they can to save face and appear the victim. How ironic, although it is a horrible irony, to see such despicable people now attempting, for reasons of profit and greed obviously, to build a narrative of them having been under attack from deranged protesters, on the street and online. It is the technique of placing the truth on its head. Of telling a big a lie as possible to combat their failings and vindictive acts. Cameron did the same recently by claiming his welfare mission was morally good, when of course even he knows it is the precise reverse of that.

      They have no shame. They are animals with one goal forever in mind: profit at ANY cost.

    • and again,
      “THE USE OF WORDS LIKE SHOCK AND AWE WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT”

      OUR NATION IS WITNESSING A SIEGE AGAINST THE POOREST AND WEAKEST, THE LIKES OF WHICH, HAVE NEVER BEEN SEEN SINCE THE NAZI’S……………………………..

      DEMOCRACY, THE VOICE AND WISHES OF THE PEOPLE ARE DISAPPEARING FAST AS THE NEW REICH TAKES OVER THE HELM.
      YESTERDAY SAW THE OUTCOME OF THE FIVE DISABLED PERSONS QUEST TO OVERTURN THE DREADED BEDROOM TAX.

      THE JUDGES STATED THAT THE COURTS CANNOT GET INVOLVED IN GOVERNMENT POLICY, HOWEVER CONTENTIOUS.

      I HAVE NEVER HEARD SO MUCH FUCKING CLAPTRAP IN MY LIFE………
      EVERYTHING HAS APPEAL RIGHTS, FOR JUDGES TO REACH THIS DECISION IS JUST BARBARIC, THEY, LIKE MORE AND MORE, ARE UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE NEO NAZI’S IN POWER.

      THE JUDGES SHOULD BE IDENTIFIED AND ALL HISTORICAL LINKS TO THOSE CONTROLLING THEM UNEARTHED!
      THE TWISTED WHIMS OF A SELECT FEW ARE BEING UNLEASHED ON THE MAJORITY.
      POLITICIANS NO LONGER REPRESENT THE PUBLIC, THEY ARE THE PUPPETS OF THE MULTI NATIONAL GREED CORPORATIONS LIKE ATOS……….

      WORK CAPABILITY ASSESSMENTS WILL CARRY ON UNDER A DIFFERENT LABEL, THE OUTCOME WILL BE NO DIFFERENT. IT IS THE SMALL PRINT IN THE CONTRACT WHAT SHOULD BE LAID OPEN FOR ALL TO SEE.

      THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS HAVE DIED ALREADY AND EVERYONE IS CONVENIENTLY LOOKING AWAY.

      “THE DISABLED SHOULD ALL MEET IN TOWN CENTRES AND PUBLICLY BURN THEIR ASSESSMENTS AND REFUSE TO UNDERGO ANY MORE”

      I WILL SAY IT ONCE MORE, ALL THE DEPARTMENTS OF GOVERNMENT AT WHATEVER LEVEL, ARE COMPLICIT IN CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, YOU COULD BE NEXT TO FILL A BURIAL PLOT OR AN URN……….

      OUR PROSPECTS ARE DAUNTING BUT IT’S TIME TO HIT BACK OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE.

      YESTERDAY I UNEARTHED SOME GOVERNMENT PAPERS UNDER THE HEADING “fema camps”…………

      PLEASE GOOGLE IT AND TRY AND FIND THE GOVERNMENTS INTENTIONS TO SEND DISABLED TO WORK CAMPS, TO GET THEIR MINDSET RIGHT.

      I COULD NOT BELIEVE WHAT I WAS READING. IT WAS LIKE AN ORWELLIAN NIGHTMARE DREAMT UP BY DISABILITY HATERS.
      THE CAMPS WOULD ACCOMODATE THOUSANDS OF DISABLED AND THE STATE HAD THE RIGHT TO PUNISH YOU BY REMOVAL OF YOUR CHILDREN……………

      “AUSCHWITZ REVISITED”

      THESE BASTARDS ARE ABSOLUTELY CRAZY AND WILL STOP AT NOTHING IN THEIR NEW EUGENICS DECLARATIONS………..

      OUR DWP WROTE TO ME IN A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION RESPONSE, STATING THEY HAD NO LINKS WITH THE DISCREDITED UNUM CORPORATION.

      THIS IS BULLSHIT, UNUM ARE PULLING THE STRINGS OF OUR DERANGED FRONT BENCHERS, AS ARE THE OTHER MAJOR PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE VENTURE CAPITALISTS.

      YOUR JEWEL IN THE CROWN, THE NHS IS BEING DISMANTLED BRICK BY BRICK IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES AS THE STAKES OF CORPORATE GREED BITE WITH EVER GREATER FEROCITY.

      I AM NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORIST BUT THE EXPLOITS OF WHAT IS UNFOLDING MAKE ME WONDER?

      IT;S TIME TO COME OUT OF YOUR PRIVATE TRANCES AND REVOLT BEFORE YOU BECOME THE VICTIMS OF THE STATE.

  8. gfranklinpercival

    We have to elect members of parliament who will form a government which will use the money raised in taxation to finance the state and its obligations (A Civil Service, if you will), rather than letting contracts to crooks.

  9. YOU ARE BEING HERDED TO GO FOR AN EXAMINATION OF YOUR ABILITY TO WORK, IN FRONT OF A STATE SPONSORED CHARLATAN WHO HAS BEEN ON A SHORT COURSE TO GET A GLOSSY CERTIFICATE, NOT RECOGNISED EVEN IN DEEPEST PERU…………………

    ATOS AND ALL THE OTHER FINANCIAL MALINGERERS THAT PURPORT TO UTILISE HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS ARE NOTHING BUT A SPIN OFF, OF THE DISABILITY DENIAL MACHINE OF UNUM CORPORATION OF AMERICA.

    I AM COMPLETELY BEWILDERED WHY THE AUTHENTICITY OF A CHARLATANS STATEMENT, OVER THAT OF A TRUE DOCTOR, HAS BEEN GIVEN ANY CREEDENCE IN THE UK.

    THEY ALL SING FROM THE SAME SONG SHEET, THESE BASTARDS………………

    REPLACING ATOS WITH ANY OTHER IS JUST A THREE CARD SHUFFLE………..

    SAME OLD SHIT, DIFFERENT UNIFORM!

  10. may i say thank you to the british people who have campaigned in this and saying enough is enough to this allowing disabled people suffer.the next massive demonstration should be on the governments front doorstep.

    • ..and the government will bring out the water cannons to prevent the people from demonstrating on their doorsteps against their failed policies.

      • and said water cannons are full of “smart water” no need for high pressure just spray and arrest anyone with as much as a drop on em and bang em up as terrorists

        • @totally well they are terrorists
          Anyone who complains terrorises this lot

        • So anybody on one or other form of benefit is now a terrorist in the eyes of the tory tossers?

          Nothing new then as sometimes it either feels like a nursery school or borstal in my WPP. My crime? Losing my job in 2008 because the bankers conspired with Labour to crash the economy.

          Labour 2008 – lose my job through government denial of the bankers

          Tory’s 2014 – Potentially lose my meagre JSA if I don’t ‘play’ ball

          I can’t fucking win with all of those public schoolboy wankers.

  11. ALL YOU ARE WITNESSING IS A GOVERNMENT COVER UP OF MASSIVE PROPORTIONS OF A SCALE NEVER SEEN BEFORE IN THE CIVILISED WORLD………………

    THE GOVERNMENT, WITH THE FULL BACKING OF THE QUEEN, HAVE INTRODUCED WELFARE REFORMS THAT HAVE RESULTED IN THE DEATHS OF MANY THOUSANDS………………..

    THE ATOS DEBATE IS AN ATTEMPT TO SHIFT THE BLAME FROM THE DWP AND THEIR CO CONSPIRATORS, THE COURTS AND TRIBUNAL SERVICES………….

    THE POLICE CAN SPOT A SINGLE MURDER BUT HAVE BEEN ORCHESTRATED IN SUCH A WAY TO TURN THEIR BACKS ON THE CARNAGE THEY WALK OVER DAILY, THE FALLOUT FROM THE WELFARE REFORMS.

    “EACH AND EVERY POLITICIAN, HEAD OF DEPARTMENT, HOWEVER INVOLVED, SHOULD BE SWINGING FROM A READILY ASSEMBLED GALLOWS”

    THE NOOSE OF TRUTH IS TIGHTENING ROUND THE NECKS OF THESE EVIL BASTARDS.

    THEIR DOWNFALL CANNOT COME SOON ENOUGH……………

  12. “The question many potential voters may well ask is will the real Labour please stand up!”

    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/newly-appointed-labour-donor-opens.html

  13. Of course it would never occur to this wretched govt that they could run these assessments ” in house ” and have proper trained doctors to run them and open to scrutinity instead of being told its ” commercial confidentiality ” to deny anyone from finding out wtf is going on with them
    But that is what the gagging law is about
    1 shut up anyone complaining (even blogs which had been suggested in newspapers)
    2 keep all business lobbying secret too

    But this govt is wedded to free market principles and ” private is best ” ( ha fucking ha)
    And since they want to rid the country of
    All public services and turn into free for all
    With democracy thrown to one side

  14. Atos is the monkey, but the DWP is the organ-grinder. The plight of UK’s sick & disabled won’t be ameliorated by replacing the existing monkey with another monkey—unless the Work Capability Assessments are either scrapped or the assessment descriptors (created by the DWP) are radically changed.

  15. ATOS STILL KILLS!!

    Fuck these Nazi bastards!

  16. It is a victory, a small one but a victory nonetheless to hear these b******s whining and whinging about a few threats online. Well too friggin’ bad! that’s what tends to happen when you deliberately conspire to cheat people out of benefits so that they have no shelter, no food, no heating, nothing. All the while we have a government who think it’s important to give a tax cut to millionaires.

    If they get out of the contract they’ll be replaced by another bunch of exploitive b******s out to make a buck at the expense of others suffering.

    The message is this is only the start the pressure must be increased through blogs like this and we must hound them relentlessly. Expose them whenever you can, write to local papers and try to get your letter printed. Let everyone know about their criminal and deviant conduct.

    What we mustn’t do is slacken off in any way. The pressure and campaigns have to be escalated.

    • @rainibg yes let’s play into their hands and dismiss the death threat thing as trivial

      • Not sure what you’re on about there bob. For a start i don’t believe there were any death threats. Probably just made up crap to make ATOS appear the victims because they know the games up. Anyway i don’t care if they were threatened that’s nothing, nothing compared to what they’ve done to others.

        I repeat again: when you’re in the business of conspiring to cheat people out of their lifeline and try to cheat them to the point they have to make themselves homeless with no money for food then you should probably expect to get death threats and abuse.

  17. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
    This story was also on BBC News yesterday. They reported that Atos were pulling out due to death threats to their staff, illustrated with shots of protestors waving anti-Atos placards. They acknowledged that the company was controversial, and talked to people, who had been declared fit for work. They also reported that the DWP had called the company ‘unprofessional’ for going public about it.

    Lucy, one of the commenters to this post, states that with the horrific employment record of their boss, Atos probably doesn’t care at all about the death threats made against their employees. This is probably right. Thierry Breton, the head of Atos, was brought in by the French government to run France Telecom when it was being privatised. Under his bullying regime, 35 employees committed suicide.

    What was noticeable is that the BBC report did not mention the tens of thousands of people, who have died in despair and poverty after being thrown off their benefits due to Atos and the DWP. But then, this would raise awkward questions about government policy, which might be embarrassing for Jonty, the head of newsgathering, when the BBC next meets someone from the Coalition banging on about ‘Leftwing bias’.

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    Great news but heed to replacement from another unethical company.

  19. overburdenddonkey

    this is a major victory won through the sheer guts, and determination of all who have stood up and spoke/shouted out…..atos et al are but tools of state oppression….imo, next we must get rid of the WCA, it is toxic and wedged in, as a wall between, sick and disabled people and their lawful benefit entitlements….the WCA must go, as must sanctions and conditionality, also there must be an increase in our benefits, a call for decent social accommodation, rents reduced and capped at levels that we can all afford…we are natural in our needs, and our response to sickness and disabilities…capitalisms reaction to sickness and disability is not….as something survived rightly states, sickness and disability manages YOU…

    • overburdend

      I agree with’ sickness and disability manages YOU’ yes something survived is correct. No matter how much I try to deny my chronic pain, and think lets get back to work ,just like how Dwp, Atos, Cbt ,Gov, Seetec,bald Ids ,and Pain management all want me to deny it ,but sadly, still my body will continue to tell me, ‘No it has had enough!!! and it is sorry but it can not work right now!!!!’. Fuck off and leave me alone,you atosing bastards!!!!!’. ‘The body never lies’ unlike this government and Atos.

      I was happy about this news but guess what I had in the post today, a letter inviting me to a atos assessment. My luck is rotten. Here I go again, having my pittance taken away. Sadly this time I have too much council tax debt and I think the bailiffs will have a field day as they are ready and waiting with nashing teeth at my door. Atos are reminding me of that nasty cop in ‘terminator’ they ain’t done with me yet. What the feck am I going to do now, with the not being allowed to appeal. This is the third time now in just 18 months. I am exhausted!!

  20. If they are getting death threats it’s their own fault for taking away people’s only source of funds.

    • @Thomas yeah well done just play into their hands so they can close us down..idiot.

      • You need to calm down and stop name calling. Thomas M was only stating what most of us feel. You don’t even know anything about these death threats and yet you’re calling someone an idiot for voicing their opinion. If you think death threats are in any way comparable to the amount of human misery and destruction ATOS and this government have caused then you’re sorely deluded.

        Cut out the name calling against people who are on our side.

  21. Some might see it as a victory, but it is a victory both ATOS and the government are happy to let us have. ATOS are happy to give up their WCA contract because they have been struggling to fulfil their commitments to the PIP contract. Withdrawing from the WCA contract will allow them to devote all their time, resources and attention to carrying out the government promise of removing benefits from over half a million disabled people currently receiving DLA.

  22. Duncan smith should never have been allowed in politics.he was a failed leader.he has cost this country millions of pounds on useless schemes.

    • Duncan Shite should have stayed playing soldiers in the girl guides and never have entered politics. What previous qualifications or experience does he have above anybody else in being allowed to run the DWP?

      WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR YOU, SMITHY, TO LIVE ON £53 PER WEEK LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD IF CHALLENGED. ARE YOU A LIAR AS WELL AS A PSYCHOTIC LUNATIC?

      ONLY COWARDS SAY ONE THING AND LATER ON THEN DENY THEY EVER SAID IT OR GO OFF AND DO SOMETHING ELSE. IDS IS A COWARD.

  23. …………so the Queen is poised to name a new navy warship.

    I think my choice of a name would be,

    “THE FALLEN DEAD”

    It would be a lasting memorial to the thousands that have died since she gave Royal assent to the Welfare Reform Acts……………………

    Hopefully the bottle of champagne will bounce back and hit her in the face, not that it would do much damage!

    • ……….so they are tinkering with the idea of charging claimants £250 to challenge a DWP decision at tribunal………..

      being out of pocket you would have to seek a payment from Wonga………

      calculating Wonga’s lending rates, coupled with the amount of claimant appeals…………………

      i reckon you could double the suicides and treble the death count in a matter of months……………

  24. Hopefully Rebekah Brooks will pull out a semen stained tie just as the judge makes a deliberation on her case…………

    i bet David is shitting himself, wondering if the day they masturbated the police horse would come to light…………..

    • And those cum stains are traced back to the baldy wanker Duncan Shitface. Government corruption is spreading into every aspect of British life – newspapers, the courts, welfare, basic healthcare. nobody is safe from the evil tentacles of tory supremacy.

  25. they need to get rid of Ian Duncan Smith not just ATOS.

  26. Nice article on the mars photo’s.
    I may try this for myself, but I will not trust the photo as genuine or
    not believe it wasnt doctored by Nasa for a gigle.

  27. something survived...

    Atos says they were wrong? Then like a polluting chemical firm, they should reverse all their decisions against people, and undo all the harm caused, and pay billions to us in compensation. Then they should be dissolved and their bosses banned from running any company again.

    Except oops, you can’t un-kill all the people Atos has murdered!

  28. not sure i believe this artical but if true it will just be a case of rebranding and renaming to SERCO

  29. and now let us turn our attentions on the other foul companies.

    • Why what have they done ?

    • “That’s true but if a company is getting large numbers of death threats all the time that’s going to have an impact in terms of staff turnover, productivity etc isn’t it. So looking at it from a practical point of view no wonder they want to pull out”

      Comment from a recent forum on this matter.

    • n particular, this sort of thing afflicts the Lefty blogosphere. Posts by serial fantasist Dr Éoin Clarke are regularly exposed as trash, but he keeps posting, and people keep believing him.
      There are a huge amount of people who believe what he claimed is true who’ve never bothered to read his grovelling apologies. What happens is that they aren’t regular readers of his blog, they just see it shared on Facebook, are appalled by the “corruption” that he’s “uncovered” and never check back.
      It’s not just blogs, either. Any search through a prominent Lefty tweeter’s feed will find them sharing an image of the Bullingdon club, accompanied by some “fact” about how David Cameron eats babies and is making a billion pounds off every packet of aspirin that someone paying the “#hatedbedroomtax” gets from “#OurBelovedNHS”.
      Increasingly, it’s hard to know who to trust, and some people will believe any website or image that looks half-credible. We – both journalists and the public at large, but especially celebs with huge Twitter followings – need to become much more discerning about what we believe and share online. Ultimately, if a story sounds too good to be true, that probably because it’s not true. Or, as we say in the trade, “too good to check”.

      From the Torygraph. Btw when I was on twitter i was exchsnging views with Eoin Clarke. a decent chap ..the Torygraph had been taking the piss out of his name ..its irish

    • The failed Work programme should be shut down and all of the corrupt providers be forced into handing over every single penny from their coffers to all the WP clients made to attend the same old drivel week after week.

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  32. Today’s Sunday People newspaper and the smug cunt is headline news once more over his hated bedroom taxes. Fucking cunt has been trained in denial and psychotic delusions…

    # Bedroom tax scandal wrongly charged to 40,000 council tenants – and Iain Duncan Smith is ‘in denial’#

    ”That is already four times more than the amount whom the Work and Pensions Secretary had predicted would be hit by his failure to close a housing rules loophole.”

    Bungling Bedroom Tax villain Iain Duncan Smith has been accused of being “in denial” over his mishandling of the hated levy.

    The attack on him came as the number of council tenants wrongly penalised in the scandal headed towards a shocking 40,000.

    Results from 175 of Britain’s 346 local authorities now show that 19,140 homes had the cruel charge slapped on illegally.

    That is already four times more than the 5,000 people whom the Work and Pensions Secretary had predicted would be hit by his failure to close a housing rules loophole.

    The figures are revealed in freedom of information requests by Labour to councils – and it is likely the tally will more than DOUBLE once all the results are in.

    The loophole means that social housing tenants in the same property since 1996 should not have had housing benefit cut.

    They included tragic gran Stephanie Bottrill, 53, of Solihull, who killed herself – blaming the hated tax in her suicide note.

    Shadow welfare minister Chris Bryant said: “Mr Duncan Smith is in total denial over the numbers hit by his loophole blunder.

    “Despite Tory, Liberal and Labour councils across the UK contradicting him, he refuses to accept he was wrong.”

    The DWP stubbornly stuck by its original figure.

    A spokesman said: “We expect very few people to be affected.”

    But Birmingham council alone says 2,100 of its tenants were illegally charged.

    Glasgow has identified 913 cases, Lambeth in London 648, Warrington 452 and Cardiff 220. Those wrongly hit have been overcharged an average £640 each.

    Mr Duncan Smith is looking at a £2.5million compensation bill before the loophole is closed next month.

    The tax hits 660,000 social housing tenants, who pay £12 extra a week for one spare bedroom and £25 for two or more.

    They include the “Angel of Woolwich” who tried to help soldier Lee Rigby after he was hacked to death on a London street last May.

    Ingrid Loyau-Kennett, 49, of Helston, Cornwall, said: “David Cameron praised my bravery and said people like me make this nation what it is.

    “Now I can’t pay my bills.”

    Last Friday five disabled tenants lost their Court of Appeal bid to have their benefit cuts ruled unlawful.

    They now plan to go to the Supreme Court.

    Mr Bryant said: “The Bedroom Tax is cruel and unfair. The Government should ditch it.

    “If they don’t, a Labour government will.”

    Campaigner Peter Barker, 53, who first found the loophole, said: “There are far fairer ways of saving far more cash than this tax.”

  33. Stuff what the press are saying, stuff what Atos are saying as well. As for demonstrating in London, I am not one bit frightened about water cannons. And besides, if the people demonstrated all over the country they wouldn’t have enough cannons, police, courts or cells to hold the amount of people!
    All I can really hope for is that Scotland wins independence – Salmond (no matter what you think of him), has promised that PIP would be dropped, the WCA would be altered towards the sick and disabled and that help would be available towards the people of Scotland who need it! We already don’t have to pay bedroom tax here – as Holyrood are actually making the difference up so no-one has to pay anything extra here. Everything that this disgusting, evil, un-elected coalition does helps the people of Scotland say Yes!
    I’d like to know if the staff of Atos, who had no-one demonstrating last week, (I couldn’t believe how few people actually turned out, and how none turned up in some places), are telling people that the demonstrations frightened them or made them uncomfortable, seeing as they weren’t involved! I wonder if someone could find out if any of them are reporting having demonstrators outside their buildings and are in the media about it?
    There is more going on behind this Atos debacle than is being said, we had all better watch out at what is coming next…

    • I have a massive doubt that ATOS received any death threats at all.

      Yet again, it’s the typical response from a bully (ATOS) that it is they who are the victims in all this.

      • Lucy
        your right, DARVO

        Denial
        Attack
        Role reversal of Victim to Offender.

        The big bully tactic. A leading psychologist wrote about this, will have to find her name later. We are up against narcissists here.

    • About 60 of us were at the demo on Cadogan, in Glasgow for several hours. I stayed for about 3 hours. Think the demo ended not too long after that.
      I agree with you that there ought to be more in the way of demos, protests, etc.
      (I was not impressed with turnout at the “Big” anti Bedroom Tax protest on June 1st at Glasgow George Sq.)

      As for Scotland…. I do believe Independence is our only chance of creating a fairer society.
      It is shocking the Labour party is implacably opposed to it. They talk of justice for all across UK ,etc, etc, etc.
      The reason we are in this mess to begin with is so many poor ppl didn’t vote Labour lat time around because Labour gave them nothing to vote for. The Brown-Blair administration started this current war on the poor. Gordon Brown took it to new levels, by following the ramblings of Westminster based think tanks and so on, without seemingly to care will it would all lead to. Anything to placket the right wing NAZI media.
      The last tow Labour DWP guys were evil, and gave the tories much of the policies we have now, they have merely raised the level that wee bit higher.
      Did no one in Labour not foresee this? Perhaps they did. And it suits them perfectly well !

      What I hope for is Independence, and I am hope Labour in UK will see we voted for a fairer society as they were not to be trusted, and perhaps be forced to change their own tory orientated ways.
      I also believe a YES vote could bring own the present REGIME.
      I can’t see how the Cameron-Clegg coalition could possibly continue. There would be absolute turmoil in Westminster. Total chaos in Whitehall.

      So if Scottish Labour ppl want social justice, and an end to Cameron, Clegg, IDS, etc for all in UK, then voting YES is the one sure way to get it.
      Never mind what the hell their selfish , uncaring Labour MPs say. They too have to be gott rid of.

      • That should have read Yes vote will bring DOWN the Regimee……etc

      • You are right in asserting it was LABOUR that started these disgraceful and unfair policies and not the Tories. I know because I was sent on New Labour’s farcical crap of the so-called ‘New Deal’ which was nothing but being made to sit in a room for 5 days a week with crap computers and look constantly for non-existent ‘jobs’.

        I hope Scotland doesn’t leave the United Kingdom though. I can certainly understand your frustration and that of many other Scots but those of us who live in the rest of the United Kingdom need your help to put this country on the right track again with reference to having sane welfare policies.

        • overburdenddonkey

          steven
          how about YTS…way before blair/brown…

          • And before YTS it was YOPS (Youth Opportunities Programme) and TOPS (Training Opportunities Programme Scheme for those a bit older) under Labour. The point is both government’s have always had these schemes ever since unemployment hit one million back in 75 for the first time. But in those days, you could do all sorts of interesting training things, you got a bit extra money for doing them and most important they were voluntary.

            • overburdenddonkey

              moggy
              jim callaghan…yops…there were even some before that, agreed nowadays these schemes are even more m/t….everyone knew back in, say ’75 they were useless then…in one place i worked there was a yts poster on the company noticeboard with thatcher lopping the limbs off of youth as they entered through the door…most everyone i knew, management and employees were disgusted with yops….yts…transient participants one could not get attached or get to know the person….it was dreadful then and even worse now, pointless crap…no future, no future, no future, for you…

              • overburdenddonkey

                ps moggy
                come to think of it these schemes made everyone/most feel insecure, threatened…the thin end of a wedge…like jobs would no longer be for life, and that the younger working class generations would be valued less and less as time went by….

                • Yep, Donkey, but as I said before on TOPS you could so some really good and useful stuff so some of them were like apprenticeships, this would have been about 76. But the key thing is you weren’t FORCED. You were cajoled with an extra tenner a week which in 76 was believe you me a lot of money. Add that on to your Supp Benn which was also worth a lot more and it wasn’t a raw deal at all. Unemployment at one million seemed shocking then but it wasn’t until Thatcher’s monetarism that we saw unemployment rise to 3 million and stay there. Employment was still more secure in those days. It just doesn’t compare with what it’s like today.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  moggy
                  i know what you mean and can see why it was attractive then coz it offered some hope of work, and a tenner, a lot of dosh back then….me, i started my apprenticeship in 1968, so i was one of the last lucky one’s, that could sniff snot back into my throat, say gissa job, your loss if you won’t employ me sort of attitude…i trained apprentices, and even if they were full apprenticeships, i had no heart for it, nor did they, they knew no matter what, most would be gone….the apprenticeship scheme was running but with no/rare jobs outcome, even back then, but we all had to try to get them taken on…they were no different as human beings to me no less potential than me, except there would be no job for them at the end of it….much much much worse now…1000000 jobs short, but people didn’t give a fig for part time jobs, we wanted and expected full time decently paid jobs with prospects, to be created, anything less was preposterous…not part time work…and the dole was decent back then….

                • Hi OBDonkey
                  Yes, those were the days when people could just walk into jobs and tell the boss to F-Off if they didn’t like the job and walk straight into the next one. I just missed that. Unemployment was just hitting a million when I left school but still decent dole. This is what gets me about the government’s argument – if people just wanted to sit around not working how come when the dole was a decent amount everyone didn’t just give up work and sign on? Just shows the flawed logic of the govt.

        • “You are right in asserting it was LABOUR that started these disgraceful and unfair policies and not the Tories.”

          Wrong, it was in fact a Tory Peter Lilley that started it all off, he was/is very close to Unum who he brought in as advisors” for the all work test for Incapacity.

          NuLabour just carried on where the Tories left off!, (The truth is they are all in the same party anyway, we live in a one party state).

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  36. So Atos staff are being assaulted and receiving death threats. My heart bleeds for them. It’s nothing compared to the misery they’ve inflicted on the sick and vulnerable. When these so-called professional finally fall off the twig, I hope they go straight to hell and are forced to spend an eternity administering fellatio to an endless stream of livestock.

    • Anyone who works for them is COMPLICIT in evil and needs to take a long,hard look at themselves. “I was only following orders” is not a sufficient ‘defence’ of their actions. That is what the head honchos of the Third Reich stated at Nuremburg but it didn’t save some of them from dangling at the end of a hangman’s noose.

      • I agree, anyone who works for them is benefiting from money taken to destroy others lives. Even if they had death threats i can’t find it in my heart to have any sympathy for them bearing in mind what they and their decisions have subjected others to. Suicides because people are so desperate they feel no way out and then their family has to live the rest of their lives without someone they loved.

        Atos and their henchmen get no sympathy from me.

  37. Robin The Boy Wonder

    They deserve everything they get. Some NHS scab or failed midwife (none of those ‘examiners’ are nurses or GPs) judging a person’s physical and mental state with a bloody points system and ridiculous quiz is dehumanizing. And the sickening questions they ask: ‘Do you go to the pub?’ Why do these bastards think that every welfare claimant goes to the pub (They shouldn’t even be asking anyone that anyway)? Even Stephen Hawking would be given a hard time by these sadists…. Besides, what the hell are a French company (that are nothing to do with the health service) doing judging which British people are sick and which aren’t? They are whining about intimidation and getting threats now, are they? Well they shouldn’t murder people….

  38. Robin The Boy Wonder

    You know the ‘Don’t Buy The Sun’ campaign: part of the justice for Hillsborough movement…. Well, a serious ‘Don’t Buy The Daily Mail’ campaign should be started. These fascist pigs are spreading so much poison and feeding misinformation and propaganda about the (as they put it) ‘Scrounging Classes’…. How come right-wing fascism is outlawed in Germany, yet one of the best selling newspapers/Nazi rags in the UK gets away with it almost every day?!

    To quote Morrissey: “I sometimes throw everything up in the air, and shout ‘The world is derailed!'”

    • The Daily Fail supported hitler before WWII and now they support IDS and his failed social reforms and they also support government censorship of the internet.

      2014? More like 1984 – George Orwell where state control of the individual is the in-thing.

      Camoron spouting off this bollocks ‘we are all in in together’ – unless people are without jobs and money, and now housing because of the flooding crisis.

  39. The heart lifts in joy to read this post! I only wish further that IDS had a heart to feel shame…

  40. What’s it with UJM advertising for ‘snipers’ ffs

  41. Robin The Boy Wonder

    I remember the press conference for The Stone Roses reunion: A reporter from the Daily Heil was introduced, and Ian Brown tore right into him. The Heil journalist didn’t even get to ask the band a question…. We need more (much more) of that.

    Does anyone else think that Cameron will dump Iain Dickhead Smith well before the General Election in 2015? Some might see the possible removal of IDS as a positive gesture: and that it is a sign that the Tories are trying to change….

    But only somebody completely stupid would be fooled by that. IDS and the wretched coalition have done the severe damage, and there can be no way back for them… Any removal of IDS would only be sacrifice so that all the rest of the Tory parasites could survive… Mind you, I can’t think of anyone else I would rather sacrifice than Iain Dickhead Smith. I would pay to see that!

    • Robin, Scameron tried to remove IDS in the last reshuffle but IDS wouldn’t be removed. Even DC doesn’t want him there and they all know he’s a liability. The In Deep Shit is really hitting the fan.

  42. Talk about delusional. This guy makes me sick. Trying to defend the indefensible.

    • Urgh. That baldy bonce makes me feel sick just looking at him. Who the fuck did he bribe in order to grab a cushy little number running the corrupt DWP? and what qualifications does he have other than being a girl guide that counts him in pretending to be in a position of power?

      The sooner he gets the sack for sheer incompentance, the better for all. I can’t see how he has the moral rights to illegally claim a job like that nor how he can hang on by his fingertips whilst people are dying from the bedroom tax or being evicted through illegal sanctions.

      *Currently wasting my life away as I type this, whilst in the crappy WPP office. All those smug cunts at their desks pretending to do real work and telling us clients what have we done, or ringing up dodgy recruitment agencies they have links to.

      • Did you hear in that interview when the interviewer asked him why the people on workfare were not being paid? he then has the cheek to say they’re being paid in their dole money! What has this country become when this kind of attitude has been allowed to fester and grow?

        If people are working they should be paid full stop. No if’s but’s or maybe’s.

        As bad as this odious cretin is the companies that have signed up to take part in this and benefit from the slave labor are equally culpable.

        This is all part of the long term plan to totally outlaw benefit payments unless the person works full time for them. This is the road they’re headed down in this country make no mistake about it.

      • For anyone who’s not yet heard the IDS rap, it’s a must watch and listen:

        ‘Iain Duncan Smith
        I’m sorry but you’re a fuckin prick
        what kind of man picks on the poor and the sick..’

    • Yep,Raining, that was brilliant that interview. James O’Brian made IDS look an even bigger tit than he is. I did a transcript of it on my blog.

  43. “Tough austerity measures in Greece leave nearly a million people with no access to healthcare, leading to soaring infant mortality, HIV infection and suicide”

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/tough-austerity-measures-in-greece-leave-nearly-a-million-people-with-no-access-to-healthcare-leading-to-soaring-infant-mortality-hiv-infection-and-suicide-9142274.html

    • @Pat @Shirley @Lucy @Donkey @Geoff CASE ANYONE IS INTERESTED HE WAS HOME OFFICE MINISTER ie in charge of police and crime.

      IT SHOULD BE FRONT PAGE NEWS !!!!!

      • IT SEEMS information about Tory minister ABUSING CHILDREN ISNT IMPORTANT.

        • overburdenddonkey

          chewie
          i’ll put this simply, hounding child sex abusers does not cure it, it makes it in every respect worse…. curing all of it’s affects does work…

          • Child poverty plans to be unveiled http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26318963

            CHILD POVERTY to be tackled

            @Donkey ” hounding ” OH DO FUCK OFF

            You make it seem we are being a nuisance to these poor child rapists.

            You have no idea what you are talking about
            Come back when you have grown a brain

            • @DONKEY it cannot be ” cured ” re offending rates are very high even after ” cures ”

              You know fuck all

              • overburdenddonkey

                chewie
                it is curable, you know fuck all….

                • @Donkey re offending rates are over 70% even after chemical castration

                  All fuck know you

                • overburdenddonkey

                  chewie
                  but these people have NOT been cured….and that you condone chemical castration as a treatment is stupid blindness and/or contemptible…because it is the mind that is cured, not the body….people like you make things even worse….behaviourism/management, self control and drugs make things even worse as they actively block healing…cures/cured need none of these things as the victim is now free of what caused their offending and/or distress, as the mind is set free ….johnson,miller, moncrieff, rowe, whitaker, james….and many others agree with me…even if you and successive govts including the present gov that weren’t elected do not…all of these people i have mentioned, and often seen their careers evaporate, but are also now beginning to gain wider recognition…they have also actively protested to our govts and global govts for decades, over this issue…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps chewie
                  punishment cures nothing, not crime, not sickness and disability, nor unemployment, nor underemployment, nor social ills, nor hunger nor cold nor distress nothing, all punishment does is make things even worse…ie even more draconian….

                • @Donkey Wonkey chemical cures dont work
                  Either….

                • overburdenddonkey

                  chewie
                  “@Donkey Wonkey chemical cures dont work
                  Either….”
                  do you want to engage in this conversation or not…? because from your usual inane, “please like me”, reply, “look at what i’m going through etc etc”, i get that you don’t…..i do like you, but you do make it difficult at times….i know you hate it where you are, but that is where you are, ie get some ear plugs….”grant me the wisdom to know what i can change and what i cannot, and live with it”, gradually push for macro change….the trouble is we never reach a conclusion in our conversations and it always comes up again…you snipe what people say and don’t like, so they fit into your world view and dare not upset you with a retort, you won’t admit that you are anxious as if this cures it, it does not…denial cures nothing…

                • Vetinary Surgeon

                  ffs bob, have you been reading the Daily Heil. (chemical) castration is a load of old bollocks. It used to be peddled as a cure for aggressive dogs but like DWP ‘back-to-work’ programmes it DOES NOT WORK!! Overburdendonkey is correct – it is all in the mind, it is the mind that has to be cured. (Chemical) castration is straight out of Nazi Germany ffs next think you will be suggested electric-shock therapy for depression!

                • Vetinary Surgeon

                  ffs bob, they say we become the thing we hate…. with your venomous lust for ‘punishment’, bob you are turning into the DWP…. be careful… have some compassion for your fellow citizens or don’t expect anyone else to give a flying fuck about YOU!

                • overburdenddonkey

                  vetenary
                  all our toxic system does is re-traumatise and re-abuse, abused human beings…in the guise of treatments…and make things worse than ever…

                • And you know this because ….

                  You are the leading expert employed by the
                  World health organisation or read it in a book somewhere..

                • overburdenddonkey

                  chewie
                  have you read what you have posted, you actively support chemical castration, punishment, and hounding people, as a cure…..you are a right winger and use right wing rhetoric…you regularly/constantly post right wing stuff on this blog…and try to goad a reaction, that favours your views…you said “come back when you have grown a brain”…immediately you start with verbal abuse….and try to abuse/discredit me straight away…..because i have a different out look than you….

      • It’ll never be front page news for as long as the tory toffs secretly control the media and also the courts.

  44. Being in the WPP office makes me feel sick and depressed each time. I hate the fucking place, i hate the fucking ‘staff’, i hate the fact that I only et £71 per week and they get an attendance bonus of £250 each time I have to go under illegal threat of sanction, I hate the fact that they pipe out crappy music in the place and I hate the smug office manager who always avoids dealing with any issues or problems I have with them.

    The place needs to be shut down asap for taking money illegally whilst falsely claiming £250 per week per client and not doing a fucking thing to help me, except forge links with dodgy recruitment agencies only offering zero-hour contracts and NOT any real offer of part-time or full-time work. bastards.

  45. What about the people yet to be tested (ME). So myself and lots of others will be tested by a company that has no confidence in the system!

  46. I watched a video last night and it was actually pretty alarming as in the ‘Big brother is Watching you’ type Orwellian nightmare. It’s all to do with this Universal Job Match garbage. A guy got his JSA sanctioned because they checked and looked into how many times he had logged on to that site to look for vacancies. They said he hadn’t logged in to look for the rquired amount of times and so he wasn’t trying hard enough to get a job!

    The guy said that was total BS he’d logged in tons of times, he’d been for an interview just a few days before and had sent his CV out to zillions of different companies.

    The bar has been raised to a level that people can’t reach any/more as far as pre-conditions for receiving benefit. It’s totally scandalous what this country has become.

    The alarming thing is that Universal jobmatch is a thing where they can log in and check all your movements in your account and everything you’ve done. That is truly revolting. I looked at a job there one time and wanted to find out how to apply for it so clicked the button and it told me i had to make an account. I smelt a rat straight away and thought “this is just a ruse to track you and find out everything you’re doing”

    They should get done for infringement of human rights.

    • European law clearly states that it is an offence for anybody to remotely track an individual user’s online account. Tell your advisor that they are breaking the ECHR and the DPA 1998.

      Jobmatch toolkit is your first line of defence against what your JCP is claiming. Nowhere in the official UJM guidelines does is state access must be given freely.

      Each JCP does not follow official governmental policy. They all interpret the laws according to whomever works there. Each JCP is different and not uniform to what THEY are supposed to do in accordance with their rules laid down to them by the DWP.

  47. they keep moving the goalposts

    OT I know so I do apologise. Anyway, here goes. After 6 months of (much needed) employment my contract came to an end on the 15th Feb. On Monday 17th Feb I made a new claim for JSA. Today I had to attend an interview. It seems in the 6 months I have been away from the JC the ‘rules’ have changed.

    I took with me a copy of my previous Jobseekers Agreement. ‘Oh no, we no longer have those agreements. We now have comittments!!’ Fair enough. I would still ,like to look for the same kind of work and the same hours. ‘Sorry, that’s all changed. You must be availablle to for work at any time of day’

    Plus, it’s no longer about numbers. It doesn;t matter how many jobs applied for or CV’s sent out. It’s all about ‘prospects’ I asked for her to define ‘prospects’ and she said it is down to individual advisers who will assess my ‘prospects’ every 2 weeks and decide whether or not I have tried hard enough.

    So no real guidlines. No targets. No actions. Just the whim of the adviser!
    it really does stink doesn;t it? It is all geared to trip people up at every opportunity.

  48. “In the first interview, John le Carré, the foremost spywriter of our times, discusses the endemic practice of money laundering among some of the world’s biggest banks (the juicy part begins about nine minutes in), and the vital role that money laundered drug money played in propping up the global financial system during the post-Lehman period.”

    http://ragingbullshit.com/2014/02/24/two-must-watch-interviews-on-money-laundering-and-tax-havens/

  49. Reblogged this on The Heckler and commented:
    Okay, we haven’t won the war but…we have won a battle… It shows what can be done if enough continuous pressure can be applied on a scumbag organisation. Onwards and upwards…

  50. totallygivenup

    what concerns me is that it seems too close to the election,get rid of atos win back a few votes win by a whisker or manipulation then reek revenge on the sick and poor im waiting now for a “review” of workfare jsa etc..hence why the queens speach has been cancelled…just before the last election ch4 ran a prog the real cameron,not the official the real david cameron run by the bbc in the 4 version a former aid had recored his private meeting on election policy then through feeling a public duty gave it to ch4 in it cameron actually said “we need to get in this is big fucking bussiness i dont care what it fucking takes,the lazy bastards wont know whats hit them” i contacted ch4 to request a copy but its been censored due to libal,a friend watched it she was a conservative till she saw the prog does any body on here remeber it?

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  52. Norman Stephenson

    The way unemployed and dissabled people are treated in this country is disgusting. Try that in Franch and EVERYONE affected would protest together and make things impossible. This country plenty moan about things but do nothing about it. Everyone needs to complain to the right people every time.
    What I would like to see is those that caused people to suffer or take their lives because they couldn’t cope held RESPONSIBLE. I know its a word not understood by government unless it applies to someone else but we can live in hope if not comfort.

  53. Great news now the big questions are when is people going to get their backdated money!?

  54. Not much of a victory really. Tens of thousands are now waiting on the basic ESA amount for their WCA.

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  57. Where have you for your information from its not correct atos provided an assessment to me in January 2016
    Maximus iv never spoken or has any dealings for 9 months since I commenced ESA
    So I think you should get your facts right before you write such stupid nonsense out of a rumour

    • Wayney, Atos do PIP assessments in some areas and also they pulled out of reassessments of ESA so they could clear the backlog before handing over to Maximus as I understood it.

      • no it was Atos ok I have recently failed my first appeal
        despite ten years of abusive ignorance against people with genuine disability’s
        my GP supported me yet they still ignored my appeal evidence
        the missing document esa50 which they used was from my first assessment that failed to be executed because of the dwp and finally upon my fifth appointment for a esa medical they failed to provide me an esa50 which I believe voids the assessment medical report because my disability changed I am administering higher dosage medication and its all about the money
        however to me its all about everyone’s right under the disability’s I suffer to be treated as equal under the equality act 2010
        I have one more appeal when this fails which would Be because they are corrupt and don’t want to give me my rights alike others
        I have a gay friend whom split up with his partner and cried wolf instead of moving on now he gets esa how discusting and ignorant to people with real disability’s and their rights as a disabled person entitled to nothing in life because the system is too busy feeding the wrong kind of none disability applicants instead surprise me then I will be rid of the statutory system hello EU common law I will be alike to rest of the nation I will not pull out of the eu by voting out because our human rights are the prime reason for this and I think disabled people have lost enough if not their own life because of these corporate manslaughters

  58. I worked for atos in he US. Hey treat their employees like shit. So embarrassed to admit that I worked for these horrible Europeans. Hey should be kicked out of the US

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