The welfare-to-work industry are to splash out yet more tax payers money holding a glitzy award ceremony for workfare exploiters and poverty profiteers like A4e and G4S.
ERSA – the trade body paid to spin the facts on behalf of the welfare-to-work sector – have called for nominations for the awards which will be take place at a special drinks ceremony (sponsored by Specialist Recruitment Partners) where Minister for Unemployment Esther McVey will be present.
Awards will not just go to the tax-payer funded spivs involved in the welfare-to-work racket, but also companies who exploit claimants by forcing them to work without pay. Last year’s winners were B&M Stores who have long been the target of anti-workfare campaigners. Let’s make sure whoever wins this year gets what’s coming to them as well.
Appallingly the main sponsors of the event are so-called charity The Shaw Trust, an organisation responsible for sanctioning thousands of benefit claims and forcing unemployed people into homelessness and destitution.
The final awards will be held somewhere in London on 2nd June whilst the closing date for nominations is 14th March. ERSA will be tweeting throughout the ugly back-slapping knees-up using the hashtag #ERSAawards2014. Let’s spoil it for them.
If more proof were ever needed of the staggering incompetence of the welfare-to-work industry, bungling ERSA have recently been re-tweeting the parody twitter account @UKJCP and calling on people to sign the petition to scrap all benefit sanctions without exceptions.
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Well all the conventions they hold are listed as ” trade shows ” with us as ” the trade ”
So making money is seen as a sign of success. Not fucking helping someone
Except they don’t help anyone
It should be renamed ” the screwing as much public money without doing anything ” award..
ERSA can verily fuck off..
By the way did you catch my post where it suggested separating the benefits part of jcp from the job searching part
It said that the job search part should be outsourced to privateers ..I am willing to bet
That the proponents of this are on back handers from the privateers.
More money for their scams
Lucky us the newly privatised job centre
Have you read this johnny? Bonuses for sanctioning claiments !!!
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/4846415
Dark-Times-Benefit-Reform-Thinkpiece-67.pdf
This is worth googling and reading
have you read that david caMoron is going to charge anyone who challenges their sanctions!
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/20/people-stripped-benefits-charged-decision
joanna
they’ll be charging claimants to go on these schemes next…
The White Paper Universal Credit: welfare that work, November 2012 Universal Credit: welfare that works set out proposals to revise the JSA sanctions regime ahead of the introduction of Universal Credit. UC will be phased in through pathfinder areas from April 2013 and nationwide from October 2013. The revised regime will go some way to aligning with the sanctions model for UC and therefore help pave the way for UC and ease the transition for claimants and staff. The revised regime is intended to make the consequences of non compliance clearer and impose more proportionate sanctions for claimants who repeatedly fail to meet their responsibilities. No changes will be made to the requirements imposed on jobseekers and they will continue to have access to flexibilities which allow requirements to be tailored to suit their circumstances, for example, to allow for caring responsibilities. Three categories of sanctionable failure 1 Peters and Joyce (2006) A review of the JSA sanctions regime: summary findings, DWP Research Report 313 2 DWP Research Report 2008, ‘More support, higher expectations; the role of conditionality in improving employment outcomes’ 3Peters and Joyce (2006) A review of the JSA sanctions regime: summary findings, DWP Research Report 313
This needs loads of people to turn up and give all these sheisters a good deal of grief.
Will share widely on fb…
Thanks for the heads up. 😉
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ERSA Call for Evidence: Government Disability and Health Employment strategy
14 February 2014
Following the release of the government’s Disability and Health Employment Strategy ERSA has produced a summary of the strategy and is now issuing an official call for evidence to members to inform its response to the Disability and Health Employment Strategy.
A number of key questions have been identified which ERSA and DWP are keen for members to address. These are set out below. We are looking to formulate our response to government over the upcoming weeks and ask members to make submissions to gemma.hopkins@ersa.org.uk by COP Friday 28 February 2014.
Asks for ERSA members
1. How can we identify the hardest to help? What are the key characteristics we should be looking for?
2. How do we define and measure outcomes – what results should we pay for? What milestones could we develop? How should we define progression – increase in hours / increase in earnings? What incentives should be offered to reward progression?
3. Does national commissioning fit alongside a more integrated local/specialist offer?
4. Payment by results – how far should this be used for specialist support?
5. How much should a ‘black box’ approach should be used to achieve outcomes? Should we be more prescriptive?
6. How do we evolve and improve – building on new evidence and best practice?
7. Should we be raking in all this money without giving shit about anyone
8. Is there a better way to exploit claimants in order to line our own pockets
9. What vintage champagne should we order to celebrate our success of being awarded huge contracts
10. How to kill off most of the claimants
A power point presentation by the Himmler Foundation
SOME POOR CUNT ON WARFARE WILL BE WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES, HOPEFULLY SPITTING AND WIPING DOGSHIT INTO THE FOOD .
I CERTAINLY WOULD BE DOING THIS, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!
HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT VENUE FOR THE EVENT HAS BEEN HIDDEN:
NOT SURPRISED REALLY, BECAUSE I WOULD ALS BE A BIT EDGY ABOUT THE CHANCES OF AN EXPLOSION………
THE TROUBLE WITH ALL THESE EVENTS IS THAT SECURITY IS BOUND TO BE TOUGH. ALL THE EXITS WILL BE GUARDED AND LOCKED.
IMAGINE ESCAPING FROM AN INFERNO WHEN THE EXITS ARE CHAINED SHUT?
AT LEAST THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COULD GATHER ROUND AND ENJOY THE GLOW OF THE EMBERS AS THE SNOUTS AIMLESSLY CLAW AT THE SAFETY GLASS AS THEY ARE CONSUMED BY THE INTENSE HEAT……………
SHITHOUSE DUNCAN SMITH WILL PROBABLY BE THERE, SURROUNDED BY SECURITY AGENTS BRANDISHING HECKLER AND KOCH MACHINE GUNS.
WHAT AN EXCITING EVENING, IT WILL BE LIKE PASS THE PARCEL WITH A LIVE GRENADE………
AND PLEASE, FOR FUCKS SAKE!
DON’T START THE MIRRORED DISCO BALL REVOLVING. THE INSTANT SMITHY SEES A RED DOT ON HIS SHIRT HE WILL DIVE ON THE FLOOR!
PASSERS BY WILL THINK HE IS BREAK DANCING WITH A BACKING GROUP AS THE MEN WITH EARPIECES DIVE ON TOP OF THE DWP CIRCUS CLOWN………….
PS THE DWP WROTE BACK TO THIS LADY AS SHE QUESTIONED THE UNIVERSAL CREDIT FIASCO;
Dear Meredith Ong,
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 30 July 2013. You asked;
“How much has been spent on this doomed fiasco?
When will ministers accept that it is not fit for purpose and never will be?
Whose head will roll if it is abandoned?
What happened to the security measures within the software?
How long before it is abandoned, leaving one of the largest bills for a failed project in British
history?”
ANSWER
We hold no information on a doomed fiasco.
If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number
above.
Yours sincerely,
DWP Central FoI Team
——————————————————————————————————
and how about this statement,
In response, I can advise that the term Disability Analyst is not a qualification, it is the title given
to an Atos Healthcare Professional (HCP).
HCP’s are fully trained in Disability Assessment Medicine. Expertise in this field qualifies the
HCP to give an impartial, independent assessment on the way in which a claimant’s illness or
disability affects them in carrying out of a range of everyday work-related activities. Training
includes the assessment of the effects of specific conditions, for example mental health, or
where a condition may fluctuate. Emphasis is always placed on the differing circumstances of
each individual claimant.
Atos Healthcare HCPs are specifically trained to provide decision making authorities with
independent, accurate and authoritative advice and reports on the effects of disability.
……………………yet another crock of shit from the dwp…………
“THE ONLY GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT HAVING THE DOUBLE “O” PREFIX, THE LICENSE TO KILL”
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The forum leads on the development of ERSA policy in relation to all aspects of disability employment services. It is open to all ERSA members who are involved in or have an interest in providing employment support services to people with disabilities.
Key areas of focus for the forum in 2013 are to:
Influence the government’s overall disability and employment strategy;
Ensure that disabled peoples’ needs are effetively catered for on mainstream employment provision such as the Work Programme;
Ensure Universal Credit successfully interacts with disability employment programmes;
Share best practice in relation to warm handovers from the Work Capability Assessment to employment programmes; and
Continue to look for improvement to the design and delivery of Work Choice.
This is on the site…they seem to bang on about ” past successes “
Work Choice: there are no jobs, there is no choice – just backbreaking work you didn’t choose, till you die. E. McVey: “I love sending crips and spazzes on that scheme, as they die quicker.”
What is the difference between Ian Duncan Smith and Dr Mengele?
Both are nazis and mass-murderers.
Both are insane megalomaniacs and sadists.
Both love torturing and killing disabled people.
The main difference is that, since his death, Dr Mengele has become marginally less offensive.
ERSA: This is a typo. It should be ARSE.
Welfare reform
Including Universal Credit, the Work Capability Assessment and “workfare”.
Upcoming events list on their site.
AT LONG LAST THEY USE THE WORD
” Workfare “
This means that DWP can’t deny that ” worfare ” exists now they have used that word themselves
Oh well done..
We know that the employment related services industry is committed to providing high quality services for all jobseekers. We also know that many jobseekers may have complex needs and that public money is not infinite. ERSA therefore supports the industry to share best practice, understand and comply with externally set standards and continually improve the service they are able to offer those seeking work.
Our work here falls into four main categories:
Improving the quality of services to jobseekers: ERSA is committed to ensuring that every jobseeker receives high quality support from their provider.
Working to improve supply chain management: ERSA’s supply chain forum is spearheading work on measures to improve best practice and ease the burden on potential subcontractors when bidding for contracts.
Professionalising the workforce: ERSA is the accountable body for the establishment of the Institute of Employability Professionals, the new industry body for welfare to work practitioners. In addition, our HR forum plays a pivotal role in improving recruitment and retention across the sector.
Preventing fraud and error: ERSA is committed to ensuring that the industry is meeting the highest possible standards and is accountable to the public purse.
****ERSA is also aware that sometimes things can go wrong****
More information on the level of service that jobseekers can expect to receive and how to make a complaint can be found in this section.
“ERSA is also aware that sometimes things can go wrong”
Thanks for that I needed a good laugh
They should call HEARSER instead
“Improving the quality of services to jobseekers: ERSA is committed to ensuring that every jobseeker receives high quality support from their provider.”
Yeah, those old town frame gallows where the executioner had to actually carry you up a ladder before hanging you.
THAT’S their ‘support’.
Our work here falls into four main categories:
Improving the quality of services to jobseekers: ERSA is committed to ensuring that every jobseeker receives high quality support from their provider.
Working to improve supply chain management: ERSA’s supply chain forum is spearheading work on measures to improve best practice and ease the burden on potential subcontractors when bidding for contracts.
Professionalising the workforce: ERSA is the accountable body for the establishment of the Institute of Employability Professionals, the new industry body for welfare to work practitioners. In addition, our HR forum plays a pivotal role in improving recruitment and retention across the sector.
Preventing fraud and error: ERSA is committed to ensuring that the industry is meeting the highest possible standards and is accountable to the public purse.
****ERSA is also aware that sometimes things can go wrong****
. More information on the level of service that jobseekers can expect to receive and how to make a complaint can be found in this section.
Sorry this is fucking up again
Posts disappear. Then when trying to repost they re appear…wordpress bah!
“Preventing fraud and error: ERSA is committed to ensuring that the industry is meeting the highest possible standards and is accountable to the public purse.”
OH HAHAHA..
The whole industry is unaccountable
Only to itself . the DWP operate on their behalf. Not ours.
Btw go and have fun with their ERSA YouTube channel
CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY
The list of former chairmen of CUCA makes for very interesting reading.
They include the following:
Geoffrey Howe
Leon Brittan
Norman Fowler
Kenneth Clark
Norman Lamont
Alan Bradley
David Mellor
John Selwyn Gummer
Andrew Mitchell
Simon Milton
Reunion plus hand grenade
“WORK CAMPS FOR THE DISABLED”
Residential Training Provision – Independent Advisory Panel Report
Section 1: Executive summary
of Recommendations for
Residential Training Provision
Note: The purpose of this report is to review Residential Training (RT)
Provision and not the current Residential Training providers (known
collectively as Residential Training Colleges).
In this report, the term Residential Training has been used to encompass a
potentially wider training offer that could comprise residential and non-
residential training, and other options including on-line and distance support.
If the provision continues following this review it will be subjected to an open
competition to tender for contracts for provision post August 31st 2014.
The Independent Advisory Panel was set up in August 2012 to review DWP funded
Residential Training Provision, by the then Minister for Disabled People, Maria Miller.
The panel’s aim is to make recommendations following Liz Sayce’s review of
employment programmes, “Getting in, staying in and getting on” 1 on the way forward
for the delivery of services provided by Residential Training providers.
Considerations of the panel included:
• Residential Training’s unique employment support offer and its role into the future;
• How government support should evolve to reflect the Sayce recommendations;
• How to address the issues of transition, sustainability, retention of expertise and
geographical variations.
Although the primary focus of the panel’s work has been to review the provision of
what is often referred to as specialist disability employment training as delivered by
Residential Training providers, the panel has been mindful of other DWP
programmes such as Work Choice and Work Programme and note the disappointing
statistics published recently.
The panel are keen to see some robust analysis of the outcomes and outputs of the
Work Programme and Work Choice against the initial expectations and the learning
accounted for in the forthcoming Disability Employment Strategy
LEE RIGBY’S KILLERS ARE TUCKED AWAY IN JAIL YET THE DWP ARE STILL FREE AFTER KILLING THOUSANDS?
Not only that; if you murder someone or commit some heinous crime then you’re locked away and have to be looked after with meals, healthcare, everything taken care of. If on the other hand you happen to be unemployed or disabled or ill then your benefits are sanctioned you’re left with nothing and basically for all they care you can go and die.
So it’s ok to commit violent crime and you’re looked after forever but become unemployed ill or disabled and you get shafted and shat upon.
Something tells me something not right here!
@ Raining – Also prisoners get free legal aid, unlike (in the near future) those who wish to appeal being sanctioned.
Shaw trust have some nasty characters employed, especially the ones from CDG. Mostly with business private sector backgrounds “helping” there “customers” into sustainable work, using the very vulnerability of there “customer” into signing whatever and questioning nothing. They use coercion on there customers, a sales pitch approach, and confuse them with jargon, verbal aggression and mobbing, some CDG staff are known for this. They actively take part in sanctioning the vulnerable, in whatever nasty way to achieve personal targets. Money is the most important thing to them. They are vile.
“TYPICAL DWP RESPONSE TO DEATH IN OUR IMPOVERISHED SOCIETY”
Dear Mr Reynolds,
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 18 April. You asked;
Please explain at length what happens to persons who have been denied benefits of any kind
and fall through the poverty net and succumb to despair, homelessness,starvation and death.
What steps are being taken to monitor this?
How would it be remedied and what moves are being made to stop this before it spirals out of
control?
Identify the impact assessments responsible for recognising these unacceptable occurrences.
ANSWER,
Freedom of Information is only about providing recorded information held and not about
providing benefit advice or creating new information to respond to queries. When a person
gets no help from the state, or is not engaged with the state we would not hold information on
that group.
If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number
above.
Yours sincerely,
DWP Central FoI Team
@ Geoff – In other words, they don’t know and they don’t care.
Has anyone had negative experiences of CDG?
Dear Mr Reynolds,
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 23 April 2013. You asked;
You recently quoted these paragraphs below, in a FOI request I sent you.
The European Convention of Human Rights does not give an automatic right to receive
benefit. Where a State does provide benefits, there is no right to a particular amount. The
Government has set the rate of benefits at an amount that it believes to be reasonable, and to
ensure that no individual suffers destitution. This is compatible with the Convention .
Destitution refers to persons who are suffering hardship derived from lack of food, clothing and
shelter. Does your department deem that destitution is not apparent in the uk, and getting
worse, day by day, as a result of the Welfare Reform Act?
How bad must it get before it becomes uncompatible with the European Convention?
I can confirm that the Department holds no recorded information to answer your questions.
It may help if I explain that the Freedom of Information Act requires public authorities to
provide copies of information they already hold in a recorded form, subject to certain
exemptions. However, it does not require the Department to provide opinions, explanations,
generate answers to questions, or create or obtain information it does not hold.
If you have any queries about this letter, please contact me quoting the reference number
above.
Yours sincerely,
DWP Central FoI Team
——————————————————————————————————
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/uk/article4015206.ece
Peter Bone MP most hardline of Tories questioned about possible 100.000 benefit fraud
Queen and Charlie lining their accounts with thousands of pound of housing benefit money from renting property. Daily Mirror
http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/2645-all-repeat-wca-medicals-to-be-stopped
good news for once
“Since the Columbia City Council approved its exile plan in August, the city has been trying to herd its homeless people to a shelter on the outskirts of town and keep them away from downtown. If charities continue to provide food in downtown parks, the thinking goes, it will allow homeless people to continue to live downtown, rather than being forced to leave.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-02-24/south-carolina-city-implements-law-requiring-120-permit-feed-homeless
ttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2543590/Im-socialist-NHS-doctor-I-know-Benefits-Street-telling-truth-lazy-welfare-cheats.html
” socialist NHS Doctor claims people on benefits are all cheats ”
Thats nice of her…those fucking ” cheats ” campaign to save the NHS so she can keep her job
But this is daily mail world isnt it ?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2543590/Im-socialist-NHS-doctor-I-know-Benefits-Street-telling-truth-lazy-welfare-cheats.html
This link
That’s a bit rich coming from an NHS doctor to claim us un-employed are in this situation by choice and that we are fucking the system over for a free house and free food. Silly bitch needs her head examined. Other people in the same situation as me – forced redundancy should be spitting fury towards the Daily Fail and their on-going campaign to endorse the victimisation of us work-less plebs.
I try my ass off in securing a job, but I am up against a brick wall. Any application that I HAVE made succesfully, the employer or ‘recruitment agency’ is more than likely to be harvesting CV’s for their own gains and that the said job I have made an application for later is discovered by me to be fake and originating from another country.
That silly cow should be struck off for what she is saying. I was forced out of work through Labour colluding with the bankers (or I should say wankers) for crashing the economy.
The Daily Fail supported Hitler and his regime before WWII broke out, and times have not changed. They now support the new hitler regime in this country – in other words the Nasty party currently squatting in government.
So let me guess…no one gets sick
If so then why is she a doctor
Or people on benefits never get sick
Only striving working hard people get sick which if that is the case then they take time off to be sick or the job is making them sick..so working people have earnt the right to be sick and non working haven’t ..so disease chooses hard working people then
Maybe she wants to work on boob implants and botox for the uberclass?
If she is a socialist why give an interview to the Daily Mail? (Today the tories branded themselves the Workers Party. That’s sick. It would be like the Green party opening 40 nuclear power stations…. I think they mean Wankers Party.) {an easily-defaced sign}
Perhaps she is a NATIONAL socialist.
It should be obvious that poverty makes you sicker and die earlier, like living in slum houses full of mould so your kids get lung infections. Malnutrition, starvation. People are actually getting scurvy from not affording fruit and veg, or any food at all.
What did she do to pass her exam to become a doctor – stick a plaster on a knee?
“Tribunals are now upholding almost 9 out of 10 of appeals against DWP. This confirms the evidence that sanctions are applied unreasonably.”
http://dpac.uk.net/2014/02/sanctions-ids-behaving-unlawfully-on-a-large-scale-almost-9-out-of-10-of-sanction-appeals-against-dwp-are-upheld-by-independent-tribunals/#sthash.ZCwDqLKP.dpbs
How does IDS keep his job!!!.
he is hanging on to his job by bribery tactics. He know he is wrong on all counts be he won’t admit his failings as a leader or as a human being.
I often wonder if he has got a secret tattoo on his hairy arse and engraved in-between his butt checks is the number ‘666’
nasty and vicious slur on the poor beast 666
if you check, the number is actually 616.
@ Annos – explains the plans to charge to appeal a sanction.
DWP don’t like losing!
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Reading this, I did wonder if one way to get the message across to the media and the public about how exploitative workfare is, would be to hold an alternative totalitarian workfare party. It would be like this ceremony, but make explicit reference to the type of forced labour for commercial gain used by the Nazis and Stalin’s Soviet Union. You know, you could have the Heinrich Himmler award for most extensive use of the slave labour of the Arbeitscheu throughout the industrial sector, or the NKVD award for most creative tactics used to imprison workers for industry (foregone conclusion this: the winner would definitely be Atos). And of, course, there would be the Josef Goebbels award for propaganda, and the Alfred Hugenberg award for most Right-wing media coverage (winner: Rupert Murdoch, joint second places Paul Dacre and Richard Desmond).
How much is a ticket for this ‘lovefest’?
Ask Iain Duncan Shite for ticket prices.
Fuck a *ticket*. A flamethrower, or shoulder-launched high-speed rocket or grenade, ought to be good credentials for entry.
Seen this ‘job’ vacancy advertised under a dozen different UJM reference numbers today on Universalfakematch…
X Jobs
Sales Operatives
Job description
To APPLY go to: http://www.x-jobs.com/display-job/1307/
We are looking for ambitious individuals who want to take their career to the next level. Self motivation towards hard work and responsibility is a must.
As well as providing ongoing sales coaching and one on one mentoring to help develop both business leadership skills and progression, we also introduce you to new skills in customer service and sales.
Levels of responsibility are rewarded on individual merit as well as criteria based progression.
This is an exciting opportunity for anyone who has a flair for dealing with customers, with a drive to succeed in a sales representation role.
Whether you have years of experience or are looking to gain new skills, we can offer full product training, although individuals should be confident, self motivated and driven towards high customer service and sales targets. However we welcome candidates with previous experience in sales, customer service, advertising, promotions, retail, call centre, hospitality or marketing.Â
If you are Enthusiastic, keen to learn and looking for a New Career, then…
IMMEDIATE STARTS AVAILABLE!
APPLY ONLINE NOW !
Please note that all openings are sales based in the field with income purely based on performance, the harder you work the greater your rewards, which includes face to face customer service and promotions work. There are also business development opportunities for the more ambitious that achieve consistent high quality sales. This is a self employed position. The Company has given an assurance that this vacancy enables workers to achieve a wage equivalent to the National Minimum Wage rate. Self-employed people are responsible for paying their own National Insurance contributions and Tax. For information on how benefits are affected, and whether entitlement may be lost, speak to a Job Centre Plus Adviser.Â
this looks like just the job for me – post election of course!!
in all that waffle they’re hoping we don’t notice that they haven’t actually said anything.
Like what the fucking job is.
#povertypimps gathering #ersaawards2014
Funny that I didn’t see this announced in the ‘Daily Fail’…
Press release
Universal Credit expands to Bath and Harrogate
Organisation:
Department for Work & Pensions
Page history:
Published 24 February 2014
Policies:
Simplifying the welfare system and making sure work pays and + 1 other
Topics:
Employment and Welfare
New jobseekers in Bath and Harrogate will be able to make a claim for Universal Credit today as the new benefit rolls out.
ERSA can be contacted here:
http://ersa.org.uk/contact
I’ve just been told by the DWP that as of the 1st April I’ll be more than likely litter-picking for 30 hours a week for 30 consecutive weeks. Has anyone else been informed of this? I know they announced it in September but presumed it would fall through however that doesn’t appear to be the case…
Haven’t heard anything yet but I won’t be fucking doing it. I’ll take a sanction and fuck ’em.
No more reassessment by ATHOS.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/atos-quietly-dropped-from-carrying-out-repeat-reassessments-by-dwp-internal-memo-shows-9151893.html
That’s good news for the disabled but I’m non-disabled, currently doing voluntary work, haven’t got a criminal record, always do my job search, have never been sanctioned and am still going to be litter picking for 6 months. And as much as I’d like to tell them where to stick it cannot afford to do so. My issue is thus; surely 30 hours of what amounts to a criminal punishment will actually prevent me from finding real work as I won’t be able to apply stuck in the middle of Forbury Gardens…
Of course it will.
If they make you do that then at the end of each day I’d tip all the litter back onto the street, every single fucking time.
Tell your JCP to fuck off. I’ll be doing that to my JCP now that I have found a fatal website (with security threats issued against it) advertising jobs on UJM today…
@ Trapdoor. I haven’t personally been told anything like this. As April Fool’s day (or IDS day) approaches I am afraid to ask, in case I am told something similar. But a previous poster (I can’t remember who) had posted details about how EVERYONE had a CHOICE of forced unpaid work or signing every day. If they could post this again it would be much appreciated and then we could all print it out brandish it at the JCP staff if necessary.
Here is an article about it and yes this gives the impression of a choice also;
http://metro.co.uk/2013/09/30/go-wombling-to-pick-up-dole-jobless-put-on-litter-duty-to-get-handouts-4127884/
I’ve not heard anything yet on the grapevine about ex-WP clients being forced to pick litter or anything else such as cleaning bogs as part of the CWP so to keep their piss-poor JSA allowances.
More concern to me at present is UJM is carrying fake ‘sales jobs’ made up by a serial conman with failed/dissolved businesses in his wake.
PS Do they actually think there is enough litter for millions to pick up for 30 hours per week for 30 weeks? Also, apologies to April Fools for comparing them to IDS.
Apologies to dog turds for comparing them to IDS.
Osborne’s spiel in September did indeed give the impression it was a choice between daily signing and forced labour and I even asked an advisor a few months back who informed me people already were daily signing in some cases twice a day. Although yes I’d find signing on daily preferable to litter picking but then again it could be like a classroom set-up at the dole whereby you are there all day doing a job search. However the litter picking itself was only directly mentioned by my advisor a few weeks back and at that point it didn’t sound like you had the choice of the two..
@ Trapdoor – I honestly don’t think they have the staff or the computer equipment (or even the space!) to deal with keeping everyone who opted for daily signing in the JCP in the Jobcentreminus all day, and certainly not for 30 weeks. They would have to contract it out, and the Work Programme Providers don’t seem so keen to take on the job now that they are to be paid by results instead of attendance.
Director Overview
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The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where Peter holds a current appointment equals £1, with a combined assets value of £56,932 and liabilities of £58,405. Roles associated with Peter Dobson within the recorded businesses include: Director
Registered Details
Short name Peter Dobson
Year of Birth: 1981
Director ID: 915567703
Registered Address
93 Suite 351, 4th Floor, Central Chambers
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Glasgow
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Bunch of cunts, they need a bunch of fives.
Work choice? Like telling a prisoner to ‘choose’ injection, hanging, gas chamber or shooting…. there isn’t a choice called ‘go free and have a normal life’.
If there was a job for a hangman to execute IDS, I’m sure they’d be inundated with applications. Proving we are most certainly NOT workshy, not when there is useful work to be done. Or a patriotic duty. Or environmental cleansing…. Or public entertainment.
Don’t those twats know that if they weren’t on our case all the time, we could go out and look for actual real jobs?
Our JCP has almost no working jobpoints left, 2 crap knackered /UJM computers (1 broken), a maximum of 40 hours open per week – and 4000 fucking jobseekers. And no fucking jobs. And the disability lift just completely broke. So zero working disability lifts.
Now it doesn’t take a maths genius to tell you that those figures don’t add up. If every jobseeker, around 66% of whom (here) are longterm unemployed and sick/disabled, was forced to be here 35 hours a week… where there’s no fucking toilet, not even just an ablebodied one; hardly any staff, and only Pigface to keep people in line…
[Pigface is by the way a G4S Security Guard who also works at the Atos Sanctioning Centre, and while working at the JCP has been observed actually issuing sanctions or causing his JCP colleagues to issue sanctions. Although he is a G4S security guard and not a JCP member of staff.]
If all the above variables were in place, though it’s a largish/medium JCP, there is no way you could fit 400 people in it let alone 4000. If you even let in 40, there is still only one fucked-up, shitty knackered Universal JobBotch computer and no fucking chairs. Half a dozen or less frontline staff, when they can be arsed to turn up, and a few more behind the front line staff.
While Pigface makes an energetic bid for Cunt of the Year Award, the combination of clueless morons and active sadists among the signing/sanctioning staff, makes for a toxic and hopeless atmosphere. It’s a wonder they don’t take a look at themselves, then go home in self-disgust and shame and drink a bottle of sulphuric acid. Trouble is, a conscience is an automatic bar to this job.
B & M Store in Shepton Mallet Somerset has taken on workfare placements.
This is 1 month after cutting staffs hours by 50%
This means I am earning less than those on workfare (now 10 hours).
Needs some protest done I think, any ideas?