With Coronavirus Around The Corner It’s Time To Scrap Sanctions And Brutal Benefit Assessments

The DWP has reportedly declared business as usual for benefit claimants as the UK prepares itself for an increasingly likely Coronavirus epidemic.

DWP staff have been told that only those advised by medical staff to self isolate should be exempt from brutal benefit sanctions for failing to attend appointments at the Jobcentre*. Meanwhile there is no information on the website for those on disability benefits called in to be assessed for Personal Independences Payments – the benefit for those with additional living costs due to sickness or disability. And Work Capability Assessments, designed to strip sick and disabled people of out of work benefits by declaring them fit for work, appear to be continuing unscathed.

The DWP’s own guidance acknowledges that benefit sanctions are likely to cause a decline in health even at the best of times. There is ample evidence of the stress and ill health caused to sickness and disability benefit claimants due to regular assessments carried out by private companies like Atos and Maximus. Yet all will still be forced to attend Jobcentres and assessment centres or face desperate poverty as benefits are sanctioned or stopped for non attendance. At the very least vultures like Atos could provide some information on what those facing benefit assessments should do if they are sick or have been advised to self isolate. But as the screenshot above shows, they haven’t even bothered to do that.

If Boris Johnson truly wishes to protect the most vulnerable as he claims then removing the threat of benefit sanctions, and halting reassessments for sickness and disability claimants, should be an immediate priority. Those awaiting new claims could still be assessed on a voluntary basis, with the promise of benefits backdated should they choose not to attend – or even better interim payments until the crisis is resolved. The economic cost of such a move will be neglible and with some workplaces closing, and events being cancelled across the globe, there seems little reason not to do this now. It may not make a huge difference in slowing the spread of the virus, although it will do no harm, but it will at least send a message to those with least that should the worst happen then this Government will have their back. So don’t hold your fucking breath. The spite of the DWP knows no bounds.

Cancelling PIP and WCA re-assessments would also free up thousands of so-called medical staff who carry out the tests to go and do some proper healthcare for a change should hospitals become over-stretched. Meanwhile Jobcentre busybodies could be stationed in public toilets to harass people who don’t wash their hands or something which equally matches their skill set.

Those sanctioned or denied benefits cannot stock up on food and stay at home if advised to by medical staff. Many will find it difficult to afford heating or hot water, buy basic hygeine products, or medication for their symptoms should they become ill. Some will have no choice but to queue up at foodbanks for supplies. Hundreds of thousands of people are currently living a hand to mouth existence due meagre benefits, sanctions and the relentlessly cruel social security system. Scrapping all benefit sanctions, right now, would prevent some of this suffering immediately and allow people to build their health back up, even a little, before the worst of this virus hits.

It is understandable that authorities want to avoid panic – we don’t yet know how far Coronavirus will spread or how deadly and infectious it may yet turn out to be. But there is little more that is panic inducing then seeing a brown envelope drop through your letterbox from the DWP compelling you to attend an Atos assessment or informing you of a benefit sanction or stoppage. Removing this stress from claimant’s lives now would make a huge difference to the resiliance of the poorest and might just improve their health.

If things become as bad as they might then the sooner sanctions and disability benefit assessments are stopped or suspended then the more lives are likely to be saved. And if things don’t turn out so bad and the virus is brought under control then the only consequence will be hundreds of thousands of people having some respite from poverty and ill health casued by the brutal benefits regime. The tragedy is that to a Tory government, obsessed with punishing the poor, it seems that is too high a price to pay.

*Current advice is to contact your Jobcentre as soon as possible to avoid sanction if you are unable to attend an appointment due to being advised to self-isolate by 111 or a medical professional.

73 responses to “With Coronavirus Around The Corner It’s Time To Scrap Sanctions And Brutal Benefit Assessments

  1. Fat chance of DWP doing any of that, Johnny, sensible though it would be, regardless of Coronavirus. At least the fuckers in the Jobcentre will be shit scared if anyone coughs or sneezes on them while they’re signing on.

  2. The Tories and DWP are not just putting claimants in danger, but their own staff too.
    Also, IDS was responsible for the 5 week wait for Universal Credit. In fact his version had a 6 week wait. If he hadn’t introduced this wait then people on the old style Benefits could have easily self-isolated if required.
    IDS will be responsible for every case and death of Coronovirus spread by people who could not keep themselves and others safe. Remember that.
    Oh, and the BBC keeps claiming on every news bulletin triumphantly that Boris has decreed that Stat Sick pay will now be paid from day one. Conveniently ignoring the millions who do not qualify for that because they are self employed or do not earn enough.

    • Very true and families of claimants in rural areas in particular have no access to food banks a trip to the town needing a £11 round fare. Leaving children with no/inadequate food clothes heating will deliver a message they don’t matter no doubt reflected in future eminent criminality? Fat cats with no idea how desperate the existence of many.

  3. Hi Johnny Void.
    Good that you’re back again.
    I posted a comment on this very matter last week in a newspaper article on the virus.
    That was last Tuesday, February 25th.
    I wrote it in The (Glasgow) Herald…………….

    “We have a major problem in UK regards this virus, or any other like it.
    It is to do with Social Security rules the tories have imposed on DWP, and of employment Laws, etc.
    If someone is told they have to stay at home 14 days, but they have an appointment at DWP, they are gonna make sure, they must make sure, they get to that DWP appointment, else they get no money. DWP will stop it there and then. No excuses accepted.
    If a person is on a zero hours contract, or some other low paid work, or some wretched employment agency contract, that gives them no rights of any kind, and they don’t turn up for work, they could easily have no job to go back to, and they will get nothing from Social Security either, in such circumstances.
    How do anyone in those situations, stay at home?
    What steps does Govt at Westminster have in place to deal with such scenarios?
    Because as they stand at present, it does nothing to help anyone, and makes things worse all round.”

  4. Yes, I and many others, are hoping the one good thing that could come out of this is for the government to be shaken out of their collective delusion and cruelty at long lost and just see how ridiculous and dangerous their ideology has become. It would be a great opportunity for common sense to prevail and for people to be paid on Day 1 of UC and for sick pay to be available for all workers regardless of income or try of employment. On Channel 4 news the table showed we were one of the worst for sick pay in apart from one other country (Malta)

  5. Labour never noticed that sanctions were obscene anyway.
    http://www.clivelord.wordpress,com

    • True. Labour’s 2019 manifesto didn’t say explicitly that the party would scrap them.

      • They couldn’t put that in the manifesto even if they wanted to. The right wing press would have gone bananas over the idea of claimants getting benefits with no requirement to look for work.

  6. Good to have you back jhonny no chance of the DWP stopping sactions

  7. Good to see you posting again. I know it’s not much but I started a 38-degree petition early today about this, well did not mention sanctions, I will go and add removing them to it, but did as for guarantees that money will still be paid if people cannot attend assessments and JC appointments etc.

  8. PDF Delivery Driver

    If you don’t turn up for one of these ‘self-employed’ home delivery driver jobs not only do you not get paid but you get ‘sanctioned’ to the tune of £250 a day!

  9. The only thing that this poxy government are worried about re the coronavirus is its possible negative effect on the economy/boss class’ profits. They couldn’t give less of a fuck about ‘unproductive’ members of society dying, such as elderly pensioners, the unemployed etc., just as long as the wheels of commerce keep turning. Everything Boris and his chums do, no doubt dressed up in fancy language, will be directed to that end.

  10. Pingback: Coronavirus and Universal Credit Claimants. | Ipswich Unemployed Action.

  11. DWP Secretary Therese Coffey, has made this statement to House of Commons.
    ……………………………
    The department is fully prepared for all eventualities and has conducted extensive planning against reasonable worst case scenarios. I have been in discussions with the chancellor and will continue to work across government to prepare.
    If claimants cannot attend their jobcentre appointment in person because of self-isolation, work coaches can exercise discretion, so claimants should engage with them and they will not be sanctioned – as long they let us know before the appointment.
    And as my Rt Hon Friend the Prime Minister set out last week ‘nobody should be penalised for doing the right thing’.
    That’s why the government’s safety net also extends to those who are self-employed or who work in the gig-economy. They can apply for Universal Credit or new-style ESA. Advances are available for Universal Credit immediately.
    Madame Deputy Speaker, these are exceptional circumstances and we will support workers to do the right thing for their health and the protection of public health.
    ………………………………………….

    I am not impressed with this statement.
    It talks about the adviser’s “discretion”, and claimants” should” not be left out, etc. But is still leaving too much open for doubt.
    This is just not good enough.
    Theresa Coffey is to be condemned for this shocking lack of leadership, and proper decision making, at a time of major crisis.

  12. Even if you can barely stand on your two feet and your head is spinning it is always better to attend the jobcentre. And if I get hit with this coronavirus unless I am flat on my back I will be attending the jobcentre. Let me make that perfectly clear. Coffey has to come up with something better than this mealy-mouthed crap. Claimants need official written notification that they are excused from attending. Anything less than that then it is business as usual.

  13. BBC FEAR breaking news….

    A 110-year-old woman from Hampshire has died. She had ‘underlying health conditions’. This brings the total deaths in the UK in the past 24 hours to 1500. And brings the grim death total in the UK from March last year year to 552,000.

    Lots more to follow on this fear-mongering breaking news non-story…

  14. £350 bn for business! It’s nice to see that the Tory twats have found that Magic Money Tree, after all.

  15. WHEN WILL WE SEE SOME DWP HANGINGS?

    ……………….Firstly the Dwp stated that there was no causal link to welfare related deaths and a spike in suicide rates.
    The Dwp then stated that they did no investigations into claimant deaths before accepting that 19 investigations had taken place.

    Suddenly that figure leapt to nearly 70 and now the Dwp have reluctantly admitted to investigating hundreds.

    When the actual number of claimants who had either committed suicide or led to an early death (117,000 according to Dwp’s own figures, but the truth will be into the hundreds of thousands), hit the headlines, the Dwp decided that destroying their own investigations would be a smarter plan.

    After destroying their complicity into the early deaths and suicides of those deemed fit by rogue operatives paid huge bonus salaries to spew out fake medical reports by ATOS, CAPITA and MAXIMUS, the Dwp are at their wits end to try to hide the crime of the century, (APART FROM THEIR COMPLICITY IN THE PACE MEDICAL TRIALS WHERE THE DWP REQUESTED THAT DOCTORS WORKING FOR THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY FALSIFIED MEDICAL TEST RESULTS)

    The DWP’S latest ploy to hide the cull of the disabled is to form a totally independent panel made up from members of the DWP heirarchy and political figures to investigate the very deaths that they authorised in the first place.

    It’s more akin to Fred and Rosie West investigating their own crimes.

    This Serious Review Panel will be adept in sanitising the colossal growing mortality statistics that would put an extermination camp’s tally to shame.

    Just recently a freedom of information request was sent to the DWP asking who would be sitting on the truly independent panel.

    It would not surprise me if either IAIN DUNCAN SMITH or Esther McVey have been invited.

  16. Captain Mainwaring

    WALMINGTON-ON-SEA

    BRITISH MILITARY PLANNERS DRAFTED IN TO HELP MAINTAIN LOCKDOWN IN COUNCIL AREAS.

  17. Julie Hutchinson

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/continuity_of_government

    Dear Ministry of Defence,

    What plans have the UK Military been given for the Continuity of Government in case of major disaster / economic collapse / invasion / mass civil disobedience, etc?

    Do you have plans for internment camps and for engaging the British People should the proverbial hit the fan?

    Are there European Union wide plans for Continuity of Government as per the outline above?

    How many of our military personnel are over in the United States of America working with the Department of Homeland Security, and more specifically, with FEMA?

    What arrangements are made with the US Administration for the international management of FEMA Camps with the UK Military?

    What legal restraints are on the UK Military concerning policing the British People, i.e., what military / civilian laws are in place to protect the British People from illegal military activities against the same people (like the American law, Posse Comitatus, which, incidentally, has just been repealed in the past two months by President Obama).

    I would like all relevant documentation that the UK Military has on all of the above.

    Yours faithfully,

    Philip Brennan

  18. This is latest from DWP… They appear to have suspended signing on for time being.. This should have been made more publicly known……………

    This is DWP Official Statement…………..
    Changes to jobcentre appointments (19 March 2020)
    People receiving benefits do not have to attend jobcentre appointments for at least 3 months, starting from Thursday 19 March 2020. People will continue to receive their benefits as normal, but all requirements to attend the jobcentre in person are suspended.

    People can still make applications for benefits online if they are eligible.

    Jobcentres remain open, and will continue to support people who are not able to use phones and online, including homeless people.

    For people already claiming support
    Special arrangements will be in place for people in receipt of benefits who cannot attend reassessments or jobcentre appointments because they are required to stay at home or are infected by coronavirus.

    The arrangements are:

    disabled and sick claimants who cannot attend a reassessment for Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) or Universal Credit will continue to receive their payments while their assessment is rearranged
    people who need to claim ESA or Universal Credit because of coronavirus will not be required to produce a fit note.
    when claimants tell us in good time that they are staying at home or that they have been diagnosed with coronavirus, they will not be sanctioned – we will review their conditionality requirements in their claimant commitment, to ensure they are reasonable
    claimants who are staying at home as a result of coronavirus will have their mandatory work search and work availability requirements removed to account for a period of sickness
    For people who need to make a new claim for financial support
    We understand people who are required to stay at home or are infected by coronavirus may need financial support, and quickly.

    We announce that:

    those affected by coronavirus will be able to apply for Universal Credit and can receive up to a month’s advance up front without physically attending a jobcentre
    the 7 waiting days for ESA for new claimants will not apply if they are suffering from coronavirus or are required to stay at home – so it will be payable from day one
    Employees and self-employed people
    To make sure people in work can take the necessary time off to stay at home if they are suffering from coronavirus or to prevent its spread, changes have been made to Statutory Sick Pay and how Universal Credit supports self-employed claimants.

    This includes:

    people who cannot work due to coronavirus and are eligible for Statutory Sick Pay will get it from day one, rather than from the fourth day of their illness – we intend to legislate so this measure applies retrospectively from 13 March 2020
    Statutory Sick Pay will be payable to people who are staying at home on government advice, not just those who are infected, from 13 March 2020 after regulations were laid on 12 March 2020 – employers are urged to use their discretion about what evidence, if any, they ask for
    if employees need to provide evidence to their employer that they need to stay at home due to coronavirus, they will be able to get it from the NHS 111 Online instead of having to get a fit note from their doctor – this is currently under development and will be made available soon
    self-employed claimants on Universal Credit who are required to stay at home or are ill as a result of coronavirus will not have a Minimum Income Floor (an assumed level of income) applied for a period of time while affected
    Businesses
    The government wants to ensure businesses are supported to deal with the temporary economic impacts of an outbreak of coronavirus.

    Employers with fewer than 250 employees will be able to reclaim Statutory Sick Pay for employees unable to work because of coronavirus. This refund will be for up to 2 weeks per employee.

    ( From DWP Official Web page )

    • Boffy the Jobseeker

      This is the usual mealy-mouthed, ambiguous kind of statement that we have come to expect from the DWP. It makes no mention of whether JSA claimants still have to sign-on or not. It would be quite a simple matter to send out an official notification. Until I receive one I will be attending the jobcentre.

    • Boffy the Jobseeker

      Lots of peeps have been asking questions on the Twitter feed. Like to JSA claimants still have to sign-on. As yet they remain unanswered. This DWP statement is meaningless. They want you to read into it what you want to read but it can be read in many different ways.

      • Yes. I agree. It could and should be a lot clearer.
        It means we will have to try get in touch with DWP to find out what’s going on.

      • I rang my Jobcentre and they said no. Keep a record of your jobsearch I was told and wait until we contact you; until then stay away from the Jobcentre.

  19. Saray7 is back. FUCK!

  20. The Jobcentres are closed: libraries are closed: non-essential shops are closed. The public has been ordered to stay at home except for essential excursions, e.g., to buy food, as seldom as possible, to exercise alone or with members of your family once a day, or to go to work preferably on foot or by car rather than public transport. So how the fuck are claimants going to be able to honour the 35 hour jobsearch requirement foisted on them by the DWP and not be sanctioned for not doing enough along these lines? If the DWP and Jobcentres shirk their obligations to us shouldn’t we be able to ignore the 35 hour jobsearch under threat of sanction until the Covid-19 epidemic has died down? When I looked on Indeed.co.uk for jobs where I live only the supermarkets and a few other employers were advertising. During a time like this how the hell can everybody be able to do enough jobseeking to fulfil the insane strictures demanded from everybody by the DWP and not suffer a serious penalty even though it’s not their fault?

    • We wonder how those who rely on libraries, etc, for computer, or internet actually manage to apply for anything, with all these places now closed?
      This stuff hasn’t been thought thru by those in power.

      As for JSA, there has been much needless of confusion.
      The DWP webpage contact details are hopeless!

      But I have heard a recorded message on the DWP contact phone Number, and it does say JSA appointments have been suspended until further notice.
      But as it stands, there seems to be no need to sign, at present.
      It would be useful for DWP to make that quite clear.
      It would save a lot of ppl unnecessary concern, and not to end up with folks going to a Jobcenter for nothing.
      Not everyone has access to internet, and not everyone has access to a Landline phone either.
      The whole thing has been shambolic!.

  21. Julie HUTCHINSON

    MORE QUESTIONS REGARDING CLAIMANT DEATHS DUE TO DWP WELFARE REFORMS

    Our Ref: 2020-1070

    29 January 2020

    Dear Brian O’Grady,

    Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received on 11 January 2020.
    You asked:

    “I am making a request under the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

    All three requests listed below should cover the years 2010 to the present day.

    1) I would like the statistics for the number of claimants who have died after their
    benefits have been reduced or denied. This should include the following benefits:
    Employment Support
    Personal Independence Payment
    Disability Living Allowance
    Universal Credit

    2) I would like the average time that sick claimants are on Employment Support before
    their benefits are reassessed, the total numbers on ESA, the numbers and percentage
    moved from ESA to Job Seekers Allowance.

    3) I request the number of claimants who are critically ill and denied benefits, whether
    ESA, PIP or DLA”

    We are unable to proceed with your request without clarification of the information you wish to
    receive. In this instance, it would be helpful if you could clarify what you mean by “reduced or
    denied”. Do you mean where a decision is made, following an assessment for Employment
    and Support Allowance (JSA), Personal Independence Payment (PIP), Disability Living
    Allowance (DLA) and Universal Credit (UC), to reduce or remove the amount paid?

    It may help if you refer to our statistics for ESA, PIP, DLA and UC published here:
    https://www.gov.uk/government/organisations/department-for-work-pensions/about/statistics

    It may also help if you could clarify what time period you mean by “after their benefits have
    been reduced or denied”, e.g. do you mean within 1 month, 6 months, 12 months of the
    decision?

    Please note that if we do not receive appropriate clarification of your information requirements
    within three months from the date of this letter, then we will consider your request closed.

    If you have any queries about this letter, please contact us quoting the reference number
    above.

    Yours sincerely,

    DWP Central FoI Team

    PREPARE FOR AN EARLY GRAVE

  22. Julie Hutchinson

    GAME CHANGING CORONAVIRUS TESTING KITS HEADING FOR UK MAY BE DUFF…………

    The Spanish government on Friday said it already sent back a batch of 58,000 rapid antigen tests from a Chinese producer because the first 8,000 proved flawed. It said the producer agreed to replace the returned tests and another 582,000 tests ordered with kits that would meet requirements.

    Chinese authorities said Thursday that the manufacturer did not have a license to sell the products. But Spain said the company did have permission to do so in Europe and the kits came with European Union certificates.

    The Spanish government initially said 9,000 tests, not 8,000, had proved unreliable. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson this week called the rapid tests a “game changer” and said his government had ordered 3.5 million of them.

    The U.K. hopes the tests will allow people who have had COVID-19 and recovered to go back to work, safe in the knowledge that they are immune, at least for now. That could ease the country’s economic lockdown and bring back health care workers who are being quarantined out of fears they may have the virus.

    https://www.mail.com/int/scitech/health/9823364-virus-test-minutes-scientists-question-accuracy.html#.1258-stage-hero1-7

  23. Julie Hutchinson

    ‘DESK KILLERS’………………………..The perfect definition of the DWP and it’s staff.

    The perfect office worker’s capacity for evil

    This book seeks to reflect on the modern phenomenon of impersonal, bureaucratic murder.
    The memo is reproduced in its all its extensive, mind-numbing horror in Dan Gretton’s book, I You We Them: Journeys Beyond Evil: The Desk Killers in History and Today. Part personal odyssey, part meditation on the nature of evil, the 1,000-page book seeks to reflect on the modern phenomenon of impersonal, detached, bureaucratic murder.

    Group conformity and psychological compartmentalisation do seem to lie at the heart of this subject. Anyone who has ever worked for a large organisation will recognise the importance of both these traits.

    Like those writers, Gretton raises profoundly unsettling questions about the capacity for doing evil that exists within all of us, and the ways in which the distancing effect of technology allows perpetrators to avoid thinking about the consequences of their actions.

    THE DWP HAVE BEEN CITED FOR SUCH EVIL PERPETRATED AGAINST THE MOST VULNERABLE IN SOCIETY TODAY.

    • Everything contained in DAN GRETTON’S new book illustrates the wilful ignorance of the Dwp staff. The incremental changes, de-humanisation and peer pressure to push staff to do evil against others whilst sat at a desk while distancing themselves from the horrors of their actions.

  24. Therese Coffey is the latest in a line of ministers of the Conservative party to stand as the figurehead of the DWP.
    Each and every one of the head’s of the DWP have expressed via their prior voting records, a complete hatred of the disabled and poor.
    If you google any of the previous heads of the department of death you will identify that they all harbour the same traits of wishing harm upon those they see as useless eaters.Each and every one voting for less favourable living conditions for those in greatest need.

    It is no coincidence that the DWP has had a high turnover of bosses. They all jump ship when the stench of death starts to permeate their very existence

  25. How would overwhelmed hospitals decide who to treat first?

    NEW YORK (AP) — A nurse with asthma, a grandfather with cancer and a homeless man with no known family are wracked with coronavirus-induced fevers. They are struggling to breathe, and a ventilator could save their lives. But who gets one when there aren’t enough to go around?

    We are all born equal?

    What a complete load of fucking bollocks!

  26. Julie Hutchinson

    It is shocking that DW
    P does not have suitable processes in place to identify these tragic
    cases. Even where it does try to learn lessons, the Department has no system in place
    to check to see whether recommendations from its own investigations have been put in
    place, or whethe
    r there are any trends or systemic issues that could be identified. It is
    therefore entirely possible that recommendations made after people have died have not
    Work and Pensions Committee
    House of Commons, London, SW1A 0AA
    Tel 020 7219 8976 Email
    workpencom@parliament.uk
    been implemented, and that DWP is missing opportunities to prevent deaths of the
    people it serve
    s as a result. This cannot be allowed to continue.
    I am pleased that the initial response to the report, including the commitments made by
    DWP in the report itself, suggests that DWP is taking the NAO’s findings seriously. We
    would, however, be grateful
    for further information about your plans, and in particular for
    answers to the following questions:
    1.
    What are the main procedural changes the Department has made as a result of
    its investigation of the 69 deaths by suicide since 2014

    15?
    2.
    What information have
    Ministers
    received about the outcomes of those
    investigations and the recommendations arising from them?
    3.
    What specific actions has the DWP already taken in response to the NAO’s
    report?
    4.
    What actions does the DWP still plan to und
    ertake in response to the NAO’s
    report?
    5.
    How long will it take for the remaining actions to be implemented?
    6.
    How will DWP evaluate progress in this area? How regularly will progress be
    evaluated?
    7.
    Which Director General is ultimately responsible for ensu
    ring that DWP
    resolves the above issues, and that DWP learns all lessons it should from
    these tragic cases?
    8.
    How regularly will you, in your capacity as
    Secretary of State
    ,
    receive updates
    on
    progress in resolving the point
    s raised by the NAO?
    The NAO reports that a new ‘serious case panel’ has been established in the
    Department, to consider the most serious systemic issues raised by investigations and
    to make recommendations to the Department.
    9.
    Can you describe in detail
    what the role of the serious case panel will be, and
    how it will fulfil this role?
    10.
    What will the membership of that panel be?
    a.
    Will the panel include independent members who are not DWP
    employees or contractors? Will the panel include anyone with medica
    l
    expertise?
    b.
    Will the panel membership be published?
    11.
    What information about the panel’s work will be made public, and in what
    form?

    SIXTY NINE CLAIMANT DEATHS……………..JUST THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG AND NOW THE DWP ARE DESPERATE TO DESTROY THE EVIDENCE BEFORE THE SHIT HITS THE FAN.

    PS THEY ARE EVEN SETTING UP A TRULY INDEPENDENT CASE REVIEW PANEL USING THEIR OWN STAFF AND THE POLITICIANS INVOLVED IN THE DEATHS….

  27. Just seen an interview with Dan Gretton about his new book on RT NEWS

    IT PERFECTLY IDENTIFIES THE DESK KILLERS OF THE DWP AND MAKES A COMPARISON OF THEIR CRIMES TO THE SS DURING WW2.

    ‘DESK KILLERS’………………………..The perfect definition of the DWP and it’s staff.

    The perfect office worker’s capacity for evil

    This book seeks to reflect on the modern phenomenon of impersonal, bureaucratic murder.
    The memo is reproduced in its all its extensive, mind-numbing horror in Dan Gretton’s book, I You We Them: Journeys Beyond Evil: The Desk Killers in History and Today. Part personal odyssey, part meditation on the nature of evil, the 1,000-page book seeks to reflect on the modern phenomenon of impersonal, detached, bureaucratic murder.

    I HOPE THESE BASTARDS STAND TRIAL FOR EVERY OUNCE OF BLOOD THEY HAVE SPILLED.

  28. I,YOU,WE,THEM DAN GRETTON’S NEW BOOK DESCRIBES THE DWP PERFECTLY.

    I You We Them is a study of the psychology of some of the least visible perpetrators of crimes against humanity, the ‘desk killers’ who ordered and directed some of the worst atrocities of the last two hundred years. It is also an exploration of corporate responsibility and personal culpability today, connecting the bureaucratic blindness that created desk killing to the same moral myopia that exists now in the calm, clean offices of global capitalism.

    It is a journal of discovery, based on decades of research, interviews with hundreds of participants, and extensive first-hand experience. It encompasses extended investigations into a number of specific cases, moving from the brutalities of Empire to the scorched oil fields of the Niger Delta, from the industrial complex of Auschwitz to the empty sites of the Bosnian genocide; bearing witness, recording, and attempting to understand.

    It is a synthesis of history, reportage and memoir, a sustained meditation on the nature of responsibility and injustice, and a book that will change the way we think about our past, present and future.

    THERESE COFFEY, THE LATEST IN A LINE OF PSYCHOPATHIC KILLERS.

  29. I You We Them is a study of the psychology of some of the least visible perpetrators of crimes against humanity, the ‘desk killers’ who ordered and directed some of the worst atrocities of the last two hundred years. It is also an exploration of corporate responsibility and personal culpability today, connecting the bureaucratic blindness that created desk killing to the same moral myopia that exists now in the calm, clean offices of global capitalism.

    It is a journal of discovery, based on decades of research, interviews with hundreds of participants, and extensive first-hand experience. It encompasses extended investigations into a number of specific cases, moving from the brutalities of Empire to the scorched oil fields of the Niger Delta, from the industrial complex of Auschwitz to the empty sites of the Bosnian genocide; bearing witness, recording, and attempting to understand.

    It is a synthesis of history, reportage and memoir, a sustained meditation on the nature of responsibility and injustice, and a book that will change the way we think about our past, present and future.

    the DWP in a nutshell, with THERESE COFFEY THE LATEST IN A LINE OF PSYCHOTIC KILLERS AT THE HELM.

  30. Johnny Void’s info about clampdowns in Serbia etc have made me think. We thought Boris and Dominic Cummings were incompetent idiots in the early stages of CV19. Were they actually trying to make it bad enough for martial law? http://www.clivelord.wordpress.com

  31. ONE THING IS CERTAIN

    BESSIE BUNTER’S (THERESE COFFEY) AND THE DWP DEATH, SQUAD WILL NEVER HAVE THEIR MORTALITY FIGURES BEATEN BY THIS DAMN VIRUS…

  32. Just been to put gas in the pick-up truck…Big fucking sign – ‘Card Payments Only’. Cashless society to protect us from dirty money, here we come. Visited Aldi yesterday for some essential supplies, only 10 persons allowed in store at any one time, one out, one in. The queue stretched around and around the parking lot, with everyone silently standing 10 feet apart……………….

  33. Julie Hutchinson

    DID YOU KNOW THAT NO CURE WAS EVER FOUND FOR SARS VIRUS?

    The SARS pandemic

    SARS originated in China in 2002. It’s thought that a strain of the coronavirus usually only found in small mammals mutated, enabling it to infect humans.

    The SARS infection quickly spread from China to other Asian countries. There were also a small number of cases in several other countries, including 4 in the UK, plus a significant outbreak in Toronto, Canada.

    The SARS pandemic was eventually brought under control in July 2003, following a policy of isolating people suspected of having the condition and screening all passengers travelling by air from affected countries for signs of the infection.

    Treatment for SARS

    There’s currently no cure for SARS, but research to find a vaccine is ongoing.

    A person suspected of having SARS should be admitted to hospital immediately and kept in isolation under close observation.

    Treatment is mainly supportive, and may include:

    assisting with breathing using a ventilator to deliver oxygen
    antibiotics to treat bacteria that cause pneumonia
    antiviral medicines
    high doses of steroids to reduce swelling in the lungs

    There’s not much scientific evidence to show that these treatments are effective. The antiviral medicine ribavirin is known to be ineffective at treating SARS.

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sars/

  34. Julie Hutchinson

    THE IMAGINARY TORY MASK DELIVERY THAT NEVER WAS

    On Sunday, the government boasted – in its daily press conference and its social media – that it had delivered 170 million safe face-masks to NHS staff on the front line of the fight against the coronavirus.

    The claim was immediately dismissed by angry staff who had either no masks at all, or only basic surgical masks that do not protect against the virus. The claim was also contradicted by footage of staff in action – none of whom were wearing masks of the minimum standard recommended by the World Health Organisation.

    And just two days later, the government has been forced to drop its claim – because it was untrue:

    FAKE MASK FIGURES
    FAKE VENTILATORS
    FAKE TORY BULLSHIT

  35. Julie Hutchinson

    AUGUST 10TH 2019
    EXTRACT FROM NEWSPAPER

    Doctors warned the comedian he would drop dead on stage unless something changed. Large’s health took a turn for the worse and was rushed to hospital where his wife was told he might not survive the night.

    After weeks in intensive care, his life hinged on whether doctors could find a new heart from an organ donor before his old one gave up.

    A heart transplant is an operation to replace a damaged or failing heart from a donor who’s recently died.

    https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/health/1164164/eddie-large-latest-health-little-and-large-syd-little-heart-transplant-still-alive

  36. Wilfred Owen (A Random Poet)

    “ if you could hear at every jolt the blood come gargling from the froth corrupted lungs, obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud, of vile incurable sores on innocent tongues – my friend, you would not tell with such high zest, to children ardent for some desperate glory, the old lie, dulce et decorum est., pro patria mori.“

  37. HOW IT STARTS, THE QUEST FOR POWER.

    The brevity of this post is out of proportion to the enormous importance of the subject. But I want to let you know I am thinking and working on it.

    It is a recognised pattern for dictatorship to commence with emergency measures designed to combat a threat. Those emergency measures then become normalised and people exercising arbitrary power find it addictive. A new threat is then found to justify the continuation

    It is by no means clear to me that it is a rational response to covid-19 to tear up all of the civil liberties which were won by the people against authority through centuries of struggle, and for which people died. To say that is not to minimise the threat of covid-19. It is also worth pointing out that a virus pandemic was a widely foreseen eventuality. People keep sending me links to various TV shows or movies based on a virus pandemic, generally claiming this proves it is a man-made event. No, that just proves it is a widely foreseen event. Which it is.

    The lack of contingency preparedness is completely indefensible. It is partly a result of the stupidity of Tory austerity that has the NHS permanently operating at 100% capacity with no contingency, and partly the result of the crazed just-in time thinking that permeates management in all spheres and eliminates the holding of stock.

    It is incredible to me that the UK is willing to throw away some £220 billion and rising on Trident against a war scenario nobody can sensibly define, but was not willing to spend a few million on holding stock of protective clothing for the NHS against the much more likely contingency of a pandemic. What does that say about our society?

  38. ‘SUPER PRAT’
    PROFESSOR NEIL FERGUSON OF IMPERIAL COLLEGE.

    IN ORDER FOR BORIS JOHNSON TO IMPOSE A LOCK DOWN ON THE UK POPULATION HE DECIDED TO CALL UPON FERGUSON TO COME UP WITH A MAGICAL FIGURE OF PREDICTED VIRUS DEATHS…

    IMPERIAL COLLEGE AND FERGUSON HAVE A HISTORY OF GETTING FIGURES WRONG AND ARE LOOKED UPON MANY AS BEING A JOKE.

    FERGUSON WHO CALLS HIMSELF A BIOLOGY MATHEMATICIAN FIRST SAID 500,000 UK CITIZENS WOULD DIE FROM THE PRESENT VIRUS…………..

    THEN HE LOWERED IT BY HALF TO 250,000

    AND NOW IT STANDS AROUND THE 5700 MARK!

    Professor who predicted 500,000 Britons could die from coronavirus and prompted Boris Johnson to order lockdown accused of having ‘patchy record of modelling pandemics’

    Professor Neil Ferguson, director at Imperial College, London, authored report
    He said even plans to slow the virus would result in around 250,000 deaths
    Rival academic Professor Michael Thrusfield accused his work of being ‘patchy’
    virus symptoms: what are they and should you see a doctor?

    By Stephen Adams Medical Editor For The Mail On Sunday

    Experts have cast doubt on the work of a key scientist whose apocalyptic prediction that coronavirus could kill 500,000 Britons led Boris Johnson to decide he had to lock down the country.

    Professor Neil Ferguson, director of the MRC Centre for Global Infectious Disease Analysis at Imperial College, London, authored a report which forecast that terrible death toll if nothing was done to stop the spread of the disease.

    Even plans to slow the virus – letting around two-thirds of the population catch coronavirus to build up ‘herd immunity’ – would result in 250,000 deaths, according to Imperial’s mathematical model.

    Prof Ferguson’s devastating conclusion led the Prime Minister to perform a drastic U-turn a fortnight ago. Schools were closed and people told to stay at home.
    Professor Neil Ferguson, a director at Imperial College, London, said that even with control measures 250,000 people could die in the outbreak

    Professor Neil Ferguson, a director at Imperial College, London, said that even with control measures 250,000 people could die in the outbreak

    Last week, Prof Ferguson told MPs these measures could see the eventual death toll cut to ‘substantially less’ than 20,000. Meanwhile a paper by separate colleagues at Imperial predicted just 5,700 deaths if the lockdown continues.

    • BUT HOW MANY ELDERLY DEATHS HAS PROFESSOR FERGUSON, SUPER PRAT, CAUSED BY THE LOCK DOWN THAT HIS DODGY FIGURES INSTIGATED?

      HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF OPERATIONS CANCELLED AND MANY HOSPITALS NOW COERCING ELDERLY PATIENTS TO SIGN ‘DO NOT RESUSCITATE’ FORMS.

      JUST HOW MANY UNNECESSARY DEATHS HAS THIS FREEMASON CAUSED?

  39. Age is certainly no guide as to the coronavirus disease course, unless you want to use the virus to find out if you actually have an underlying health condition you were previously unaware of? A bit too much like playing Russian Roulette for most people.

  40. Julie Hutchinson

    SPANISH DOCTORS ORDERED TO TAKE VENTILATORS FROM OVER
    SIXTY FIVES AND TO GIVE THEM INJECTIONS TO ENABLE THEM TO DIE WITHOUT PAIN.

    VENTILATOR SHORTAGE FORCES DOCTORS TO CHOOSE WHO LIVES AND WHO DIES

    https://dailymanchester.co.uk/news-details/shocking-message-from-spain-madrid-dailymanchester-co-uk-daily-news-manchester-day-and-manchester-evening-news-dailyn-news-coronavirus-covid19/

  41. https://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/15837/
    Anyone with queries regarding sanction suspension should read this thread.

  42. REVERSE engineering

    In order to pull off a hoax of the magnitude of the Coronavirus pandemic you have to count on all your players keeping quiet.

    Rising numbers of deaths will prompt some of these covert figures to have second thoughts as their arses begin to pucker. Keep your eyes open for any mysterious deaths within high finance or big pharma as the rest of the members close ranks to kill off those who pose a threat to the most evil regime ever released on fellow human beings.
    The powers that concocted this stunt will already have been vaccinated with an anti viral that is set to produce a sickening amount of profit when the share price hits the expected target in about eighteen months time.

    The release of the virus coincided nicely with the fact that an economic crisis that would make 2008’s debacle look small fry was waiting just around the corner.

    America has been printing money via the release of worthless bonds and the gaping irregularities would soon be exposed. America and it’s corrupt governance within the Federal Reserve saddling a whopping lie that needed to be covered up fast.

    Britain playing it’s part in the big scam by imposing it’s austerity on it’s poorest as the magic money tree shoveled vast stolen wealth into the pockets of legislators paid billions via lobbying dirty money.

    Already we are hearing claims that the pandemic is actually lowering Co2 levels. You are being brainwashed by the actions of a Davos Doomsday Cult who treat human lives as a currency to power and increased riches within their own group.

    They are leeching your savings, investments, pensions and livelihoods as we speak.

    That one percent we hear of so often, pissing on you from a great height as you huddle together to fight for your lives wondering where your next crumb will come from.

    Wake up and start to realise who will prosper from the crime of the century?

    …………………THERE WAS A CROOKED MAN, WHO WALKED A CROOKED MILE, WHO WORE A CROOKED FAKE TAN, BEHIND A CROOKED SMILE……………………………

  43. IT’S ALL ABOUT CONTROL……………….

    WORLD GOVERNMENTS INTEND TO MONITOR YOUR EVERY MOVE.

    THIS MORNING I WAS WATCHING AL_JAZEERA NEWS AND AN ARTICLE CAME UP STATING THE THE UK GOVERNMENT WAS TOYING WITH THE IDEA OF ‘IMMUNITY PASSPORTS’

    THIS IS THE GIST OF THE IDEA

    The UK plans to roll out “immunity passports” to allow people who have contracted COVID-19 to leave the lockdown early.
    UK Health Secretary Matt Hancock said the certificates would be issued to people who have built up immunity to the coronavirus so they can return to “normal life.”
    Citizens would need to test positive in an antibody test before being issued with the certificates.
    However, the UK has yet to identify a reliable test for antibodies to the virus.

    …………..IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WOULD BE KEPT IN PERMANENT HOUSE ARREST NOT BEING ABLE TO RETURN TO WORK UNLESS YOU UNDERTOOK A TEST TO SHOW YOU ARE COMPLETELY FREE FROM THE VIRUS.
    THEREFORE ANYONE NOT ACHIEVING THIS WOULD BE DEPRIVED OF A ‘NORMAL LIFE’

    THIS MOVE IS YET ANOTHER FACET OF THE OLD THEORY OF DIVIDE AND RULE WHERE THOSE BEING HELD UNDER PERMANENT HOUSE ARREST WOULD CONFLICT WITH THOSE ALLOWED TO WORK.

    THIS IS A CHESSPIECE MOVE TO SET DIFFERING FACTIONS AGAINST EACH OTHER WHILE THE ATTENTION IS DRAWN FROM WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS DOING……………………………IT’S THE OLDEST TRICK IN THE BOOK TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER!

    …………………..IT’S LIKE THE WORK CAPABILITY ON STEROIDS.

    ……….”SORRY BUT YOU HAVE NOT MET OUR TESTS TO RETURN TO WORK AND YOU MUST CONTINUE IN LOCK DOWN”.

  44. KISMET, DESTINY, FATE, KARMA…………………………………

    CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL…

    WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND….

  45. as the Premier laid flatlining in intensive car, the ATOS HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL asked the patient if he could lift an empty cardboard box above his head or pick up up a pound coin with either hand……….

    Unfortunately the Premier had not asked for his work capability assessment to be recorded and scored zero points meaning he was, ‘fit for work’…

  46. ”WHY IS EVERYBODY WHO DIES BEING LABELLED A KILLER VIRUS VICTIM?”

    WHILE IMMOBILISED IN YOUR HOMES UNDER HOUSE ARREST YO MIGHT START TO WONDER WHY THE WORLD SUPER POWERS DECIDED TO USE KARY MULLIS’S RTPCR TEST TO CHECK FOR SIGNS OF A PANDEMIC……………..

    MULLIS SPECIFICALLY SAID HIS TEST MUST NOT BE USED FOR TESTING PANDEMICS AS IT WOULD GIVE THE WRONG RESULTS BUT THE DARK STATE DECIDED TO USE IT JUST FOR THAT PURPOSE.

    ANYONE AND EVERYBODY WHO HAS RECENTLY DIED HAS BEEN LINKED TO HAVING THE KILLER VIRUS

    THE SIMPLE REASON IS THAT THE TEST THAT MULLIS INVENTED HAD TO BOOST THE ENZYMES OF ANY ILNESS IN ORDER FOR ANY DETECTION TO OCCUR.

    IF YOU DIE OF HEART ATTACK, CANCER, ASTHMA OR PILES FOR THAT MATTER, THE MULLIS RTCPR TEST WILL SHOW YOU HAVE DIED FROM THE KILLER VIRUS…………………..

    HOW MANY SIGNIFICANT SOCIAL FIGURES WHO HAVE DIED RECENTLY HAVE BEEN SAID TO HAVE PERISHED FROM THE KILLER VIRUS?

    EVERY HUMAN GUT CARRIES AN AMOUNT OF BACTERIA THAT LAYS DORMANT AND WILL CAUSE NO HARM UNLESS TRIGGERED.
    THE RTPCR TEST AMPLIFIES THIS BACTERIA TO THE EXTENT THAT IT WILL PRODUCE A FALSE POSITIVE BUT THE GOVERNMENT DON’T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

    MILITARY FIELD HOSPITALS HAVE BEEN SET UP AT ALARMING SPEED TO GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT A PANDEMIC IS RIFE.

    YESTERDAY A JOURNALIST WAS JAILED FOR DARING TO FILM AN EMPTY HOSPITAL AND TODAY THE GOVERNMENT HAVE BEEN FORCED TO PLACE A FEW PATIENTS INSIDE DESPITE NO LACK OF NHS BEDS.

    YOU ARE BEING LIED TO ON A GRAND SCALE BY USING FIGURES BLOWN OUT OF ALL PROPORTION TO KEEP YOU IN LOCK DOWN.

  47. START TO QUESTION WHY HOSPITAL STAFF HAVE BEEN ASKING THE ELDERLY TO SIGN ‘DO NOT RESUSCITATE FORMS’?

    THE ELDERLY HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THE LIFE SAVING EQUIPMENT AND STAFF WILL HAVE TO TAKE PRIORITY FOR SAVING THE YOUNG….

    THE MORE ELDERLY THAT DIE CAN BE USED TO BOOST THE FIGURES OF THOSE SAID TO HAVE PERISHED FROM THE KILLER VIRUS THAT DOES NOT EXIST.

    ALSO START TO QUESTION WHY OFCOM DECIDED TO BAN ANY FOOTAGE OF LINKS TO THE ROLL OUT OF THE 5G NETWORKS AND HUMAN DEATHS.

    IT IS OFCOM WHO PROFIT FROM THE ALLOCATION OF 5G NETWORK LICENSES AND THEY STAND TO MAKE BILLIONS.

    THE HUGE RADIO FREQUENCIES THAT 5G TRANSMITTERS USE CAN HAVE DETRIMENTAL EFFECTS ON THE LIVES OF THE ELDERLY AND TO THIS DAY NO MEDICAL RESEARCH HAS BEEN DONE ON THE EFFECTS OF HAND PHONES AND HEALTH.

    START TO JOIN THE DOTS………

    ..

  48. WHY HAVE OFCOM TRIED TO HIDE THIS?

    In an appeal to the European Union, more than 180 scientists and doctors from 36 countries warn about the danger of 5G, which will lead to a massive increase in involuntary exposure to electromagnetic radiation. The scientists urge the EU to follow Resolution 1815 of the Council of Europe, asking for an independent task force to reassess the health effects.

    “We, the undersigned scientists, recommend a moratorium on the roll-out of the fifth generation, 5G, for telecommunication until potential hazards for human health and the environment have been fully investigated by scientists independent from industry. 5G will substantially increase exposure to radiofrequency electromagnetic fields (RF-EMF) on top of the 2G, 3G, 4G, WiFi etc. for telecommunications already in place. RF-EMF has been proven to be harmful for humans and the environment.”

    https://www.jrseco.com/european-union-5g-appeal-scientists-warn-of-potential-serious-health-effects-of-5g/

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