A Nasty Little Cut That No-one’s Talking About Will Demolish Social Housing For The Young

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The destruction of social housing will not happen overnight, although it is likely to be largely gone within a generation or so.  Tenants with serious health conditions or those over pensionable age are probably safe for now as long as they die quickly enough.  When they do, and their properties become empty, then new legislation means the most expensive will be sold off.  Alongside increased Right To Buy sales, this will see the number of social houses available plummet – potentially by as much as 95% in one Central London borough.  Meanwhile fixed term tenancies will ensure that anyone who gets a council house is less likely to keep it for life meaning the flow of houses for potential sale is now embedded within the system.

But even these measures are not enough to ensure that the end of social housing happens as quickly as possible.  Something also needs to be done to lock the next generation out of socially managed homes.  So in last month’s Autumn statement George Osborne quietly slashed Housing Benefits for those under 35 who are eligible for social housing.

The Shared Accommodation Rate was first introduced by Labour who casually decided that anybody under 25 in private rented housing should only receive enough Housing Benefit to pay for a room in a shared house.  This was later extended by the Tories to all those under 35 with completely predictable results.  An early evaluation of how landlords were likely to respond to the move discovered that many were introducing policies of not letting to anybody under 35 at all –  whether in work or not – due to fears they would be unable to meet the rent if they became unemployed or took a pay cut.  Despite this shocking report, the cut went ahead as planned and no further evaluations have been carried out.  Street homelessness has risen to record levels since the policy was introduced.

In a savage and strategic move, George Osborne is now extending the Shared Accommodation Rate to the social housing sector* and the results will be devastating for those under 35.  The Shared Accommodation Rate in Sunderland is just £45 a week.  That is the most that a single person under 35 and without children can claim in Housing Benefits in the region.  In Outer East London it is £73.62, whilst in Birmingham it is just £56.77.

The average ‘social rent’ for a one bedroomed council or housing association flat in England is £76 a week. These kind of rents are being phased out however and replaced by so-called affordable rents, which on average cost £117 a week – far above the amount soon to be available in Housing Benefits for younger claimants.  This means it will not just be the private rented sector that under 35s on a low income are excluded from, but social housing as well.

This drastic cut means that three scenarios are possible.  The first is that council and housing associations could cut rents for those under 35.  This is not likely to happen.  Social housing rents are largely controlled by legislation and the recent 1% cut will not come close to making up the shortfall.

Another option is that social housing providers will attempt to bring rents down by splitting up larger properties amongst several young people – or that they will turn to the private sector to provide shared accommodation for young people in housing need.  The problem with this is that many of those under 35 who are eligible for help with housing are care leavers, people with mental health conditions, or those who have been through the hostel or women’s refuge system.  Often, though not always, these are people who have had difficult lives.  Shared accommodation is unlikely to be suitable for a young victims of abuse leaving care, domestic violence survivors or former rough sleepers. And few private sector landlords will be happy renting to gangs of young marginalised people, some of whom may display what social workers like to call ‘challenging behaviour’.

The third option is that these groups will be placed in temporary or supported housing, forever.  Or at least until they are 35.  This will be hugely expensive, but Osborne might even have that covered.  According to the charity Homeless Link the shared accommodation rate will also apply to those in supported housing such as women’s refuge’s or hostels for the homeless.  Rents in these kinds of accommodation are eye-wateringly high to pay for support staff, with the cost of this currently met by Housing Benefit.  If this benefit is cut then anywhere providing supported or temporary housing for those under 35 will close.

Homeless Link report that the government claim they will avoid this by exempting supported housing from the cut using Discretionary Housing Payments.  This is the sticking-plaster money given to local authorities in an effort to alleviate the worst of the homelessness caused by government policies.  The key word is discretionary – local councils are under no obligation to spend a penny of this money. Without legislation to ensure these payments go towards supported housing then any Tory council that decides they want to close every homeless person’s hostel or women’s refuge in their region will be able to do so at the stroke of a pen.

Of course there is also a fourth option, which is that young people will simply be left to fend for themselves.  This will mean the most troubled and alienated young (and not so young) locked out of housing completely or forced to remain in an abusive family environment or relationship.  Or left to freeze on the streets.  Perhaps George Osborne thinks they might as well get used to it.  Because with social housing being made both unworkable and unaffordable then a lifetime of homelessness and desperate housing insecurity threatens the next generation like never before.

*The Shared Accommodation Rate will only apply to those under 35 without children who sign a tenancy after April 2016 and the cut will then not be implemented until April 2018.  It will not apply to existing tenants.

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201 responses to “A Nasty Little Cut That No-one’s Talking About Will Demolish Social Housing For The Young

  1. They’ve just disenfranchised an entire generation at the stroke of a pen. Pure evil. So will the govt choice be:
    A) workhouse?
    B) army?

  2. The people who make these decisions probably intend their kids to be at Uni until 35.

  3. So that’s how the Tories are going to solve the housing problem, clear out the Poor to make sure the Rich have to never become homeless.

  4. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Housing Bubble Burst & Crash leading to a recession in 2016. Affordable housing has been upgraded. Over pricing in everything means stock market crash. Since oil is so cheap they don`t think to stock up, all they do is moan the price of oil is falling every day & lots of % wiped off the trading.

  5. What a fragmented and screwed up society that has been created in this country. Now there’s literally no chance of anyone owning their own home unless they are in a job that pays a lot of wages. Then the double whammy gets driven home that rents are astronomical and you’d be better off buying the fricken’ thing. But they won’t give people a loan because their wages are so shite so they can’t buy!!

    I remember when i was young and council house rents were dead cheap. People working ordinary humdrum jobs could afford them and still have loads left to take care of themselves and family. What has gone wrong with this corrupt Capitalist shithole of a system where a mess like this is created and then tolerated?

    There’s tons of people who will never, ever, have their own home, the system is so skewed and bent.

    Then they wonder why half the fricken population is on anti-depressants.😦

  6. overburdenddonkey

    wow! caged for life, a travesty…!!

  7. Eating cake as instructed

    It’s all about control of the poorer population. The fear of homelessness, youngsters with any job forced to pay their parents rent yet left with pittance to attend college or part time study. Graduates of poorer families forced into agency and menial jobs just so parents can afford to have them home. Saddled with 50k debt pre post graduate study many will become forever students unable to afford graduation! Meantime the capitalist monsters cherry pick applicants for basic jobs leaving many with no hope.
    Capitalists can’t believe how many fell for the “you can have it all be anything you want tosh” reality check: society will always need bin men, street cleaners, toilet attendants. crematorium attendants. Would Tarquin or Jemima take such work?

    • Your point about bin men, toilet cleaners, etc is a very valid one. They are all jobs that are at one and the same time essential, and looked down upon. Anyone who remembers the Winter of Discontent will know what happens when you seriously piss-off such workers! As one anarchist writer pointed out, (I forget who he was, but I have an inkling of a memory that he was Italian) the reason such employment is regarded as lowly is because they are poorly paid, and thus have low status. Pay more for those kinds of jobs, and immediately their status rises.

      Perhaps not coincidentally, it is these very kinds of jobs that are amongst the first to be axed when money is tight, instead of overpaid management.

      In the city I live in, all the public toilets seem to have been closed, (and one seemingly privatised, even!) and street cleaners are now a very endangered species, (and the streets show it). The bin men seem safe, for now, but there is a plan for a scheme by the council, (and a Labour run council at that) to establish an ‘arm’s length’ company to employ some council staff, on worse terms, and with lower pay, with no access to public sector pensions etc. It doesn’t take a genius to realise that the kinds of worker that will be employed by this arm’s length company will be the essential workers that society needs to function.

  8. In a decade we’ll have the Workhouses back……while MPs claim ever more fatuous expenses and bleed us ‘Plebs’ dry. The streets will be teeming with homeless people.

  9. The thing is none of this will ever be rectified. This country is beyond fucked forever and history will not look kindly on the scum running the show at all. Future historians will wonder why it was allowed to happen the same way we in here are wondering just now. Make no mistake this is Nazi Germany all over again and we are the Jews.

  10. OT: Effects of GidIdiots cuts continue to surface

    http://www.welfareweekly.com/care-worker-scheme-axed-george-osborne-withdraws-funding/

    “A training scheme to create a career ladder for care workers and to address the acute shortage of nurses in care homes has been axed as a direct result of chancellor George Osborne’s spending review.

    The scheme was due to start in the new year, but its backers were told last week that its £178,000 government funding was being withdrawn. Six other projects designed to boost opportunities for low-paid women workers have suffered the same fate.

    Cancellation of the scheme to develop the role of care practitioner has caused dismay in the struggling social care sector, where there was already widespread anger that the chancellor had greatly oversold a supposed £3.5bn package of help for the sector that he unveiled in the review.”

    So – kick low paid in teeth – check, kick those on tax credits in the teeth – check, cut training funding as we’re all in it together – check.

    Why am I not surprised.

  11. For God’s sake not another savage attack on people living in social housing. Attacking people on low income seems to be this bastard government’s main agenda. Whether it’s through housing, workers rights, the benefits system, public transport the legal aid system, trade union membership, or public services, etc, the poor are being disenfranchised at every turn.

    You know, I thought Cameron and his scum government would have left it at the bedroom tax as that was bad enough on people living in social housing. But no, the cunt wants to destroy social housing for good – and it looks like he will do it this time. Destroy fucking capitalism now before it destroys you!

  12. Reblogged this on The Heckler and commented:
    Some more sharp analysis from The Void on the government’s project of ending social housing. The latest tactics from a Tory government waging an ideological assault on working class people are an extension of the right to buy, obligations on local authorities to sell off their most valuable housing stock to the private sector, more cuts to Housing Benefit, and last but by no means least, an end to secure long term council tenancies. All of which are going to make the already serious crisis with homelessness even worse than it is now. So, if we were a local group set up to help homeless people in Basildon, the above is where we would be directing people’s anger to…

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  14. A great many people believe all the Tory spin and lies about welfare and unemployment. The so-called ‘deficit’ and the need for austerity.
    It must be the greatest con-trick in social history, and the most successful.
    These vindictive Housing Benefit cuts are just the latest example in a long line.
    Yet come 2020, a huge section of the British Working Class will cheerfully vote for them again.

  15. Yes, unless we organise to fight back. Let’s be there at Parliament on 5th January – let’s lobby our MPs and Cllrs, and if the Housing and Planning Bill is passed, let’s make it unworkable!

  16. I think some one forgot to say young people grow older , they vote to and so do there families

    • On returning home form each call of duty one thing that struck me was that the children on the hill waving flags were always the same age.

  17. The sick torie pedos ,perverts,molesters…..inadaquates……they so love to punnish……don’t they ,they fettishise punnishing …..becouse there such pittyfull snivlling weak cowardly inadaquates as people ….who haven’t as a commenter on hear recently put it so well …they haven’t got a decent fuck in them …..punnishing people who can’t fight back ,all thease cuts to people ….life support…..yet the pathetic cunt Cameron can find 178 billion for war plus another 10 billion for private jets ……realy,realy,realy,…..vile……when are people gonna fight back???????

  18. If the Tories want only private housing then they should do what Thatcher wanted to do when she started selling people their council houses, turn rents into mortgages and those on housing benefit will have their mortgage paid, like those that were fortunate enough to be able to afford a mortgage are getting now if on benefits, as well as having their interest rate protected with quantative easing.

    • It’s crazy how you can pay a rent (housing benefit) for 25 years and longer, and yet own not one brick!

      • Exactly Breezeblock and then they put in a cheap kitchen and try to sell you the house at inflated prices.
        Most things depreciate with age but with a bent housing market housing appreciates.

        Just like some rental tv services are buy as you view, housing should be buy as you rent.

        Better still, those that have been in them for the duration should have them for free.

        This government loves people to be in debt, especially mortgages where they can play about with interest rates. Most of the politicians have had their houses bought via the parliamentary expenses system.

        • Bricks and Mortar

          Do you still get those TVs with the coin slot? Haven’t seen one for ages! Anyway, housing seems to be the only thing that goes up in price as it gets older, wears out and becomes dilapidated. Cars, washing machines, socks, they call lose value. A house should follow the price cycle of a new car; i.e a new house should depreciate 25% in its first year, be worth half its initial value in 5 years and be worth nothing in 10 years. And after 10 years it would be time to knock it down and build a new one.

          • Housing is very cheap to build. Bricks, mortar, plasterboard are all dirt cheap; throw them together and Bob’s your Builder.

            • overburdenddonkey

              yep…land prices are kept artificially high….and housing is deliberately kept in short supply…which in turn causes soaring house price inflation… millions of for rent (eco) homes need to be built….which will push down rents and house prices…coupled to a UBI will gradually redistribute wealth, across the UK and europe…most pop of the uk crammed into 3m of 60m acres atm…. http://basicincome2013.eu/en/index.html
              this state sponsored millstone ensures obedience, votes and profits flow into the behaviourist based, neoliberal coffers…

              • The Golden Eagles

                obd

                Gotta love the way you causally slip in UBI🙂 Of course any readers just ‘tuning in’ will be unaware that this topic has already been done to death with much civilised debate on previous threads where UBI was torn to shreds and ripped to pieces by some very sharp-clawed commenters. But seeing as you just can’t let go of your personal money-making machine there you go, just slipping UBI back in under the radar. Better hope and pray that any eagle-eyed readers soaring above don’t spot your comment obd🙂

                • overburdenddonkey

                  more worn out cataracted rhetoric…posting is specifically intended to be spotted, otherwise it’s pointless exercise as were many of the unseemly words and phrases that were used to attempt too discredit the notion of UBI, and which has obvs failed…
                  even you with an emotional maturity level of a 2yr old can see that, otherwise UBI wouldn’t be so feared by yourself….

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps otherwise the mere mention of UBI, wouldn’t be so feared by yourself…

                • Well said 🙂

                • The above reply was to golden eagles.

                • OBD

                  I don’t fear a basic income, I think it is unfair and will become more and more basic for those dependent on it and is why I am not in favour of it.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  you mean just like every other system that has been before, and that has come from state intervention including the inception of the 1947 welfare state…and controlled by the state…something ie UBI, created by the will of the people will stay in the hands of the people, or it’s useless and will not lift people out of poverty…if it ever becomes enacted then it’s is the peoples job to ensure it’s continuation, as it will no longer be in the hands of govt, but in ours….nothing currently on offer by you et al will cure corruption a UBI won’t cure corruption either immediately it will take time and bags of emotional health…ubi will offer and provide economic indy whilst eroding corruption over time…as even a model it provides a litmus of what economic freedom from the clawing grasping state is currently hellbent on pursuing, can be….

                • It is not so much the state but the people that are elected to the state that you can’t trust to run things for the benefit of all, they run things for themselves and their cronies.

                  The welfare state was considered by the poor to be a wonderful thing at the time and anyone who wants to dismantle it in favour of a privatised system that gives money to the rich are not working in the interests of the poor.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ‘It is not so much the state but the people that are elected to the state that you can’t trust to run things for the benefit of all, they run things for themselves and their cronies…

                  The welfare state was considered by the poor to be a wonderful thing at the time and anyone who wants to dismantle it in favour of a privatised system that gives money to the rich are not working in the interests of the poor….’
                  wtf i just more or less said that, you’re even less emotionally mature than i previously considered….

                • overburdenddonkey

                  oh look! ‘the town with no poverty’….i wonder what the benefits were, oh yes, here they are… ‘MINCOME, a Canadian Guaranteed Annual Income (GAI) field experiment ran in the province of Manitoba between 1974 and 1979, and ended with no final report and no analysis of data from the saturation site. This essay uses a quasi-experimental design and routinely collected health administration data to revisit outcomes for the saturation site. We found a significant reduction in hospitalization, especially for admissions related to mental health and to accidents and injuries, relative to the matched comparison group. Physician contacts for mental health
                  diagnoses fell relative to the comparison group. A greater proportion of high school students continued on to grade 12. We found no increase in fertility, no increase in family dissolution rates and no improvement in birth outcomes. Our results document the value of health administration data for historical analysis, and demonstrate that a relatively modest GAI can improve population health suggesting the possibility of health system savings…’
                  http://public.econ.duke.edu/~erw/197/forget-cea%20(2).pdf

                • The will of what people has introduced a UBI – not this person and I am probably more emotionally mature than you or anyone else who votes to give money to the rich and increases the gap between rich and poor.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  http://www.businessforscotland.co.uk/finlands-basic-income-plan-could-change-everything/
                  ‘There have been several limited trials, but only one large-scale one, in the Canadian town of Dauphin, Manitoba between 1974 and 1979. That made the case for a basic income overwhelmingly, but the data was locked away in a warehouse until being rediscovered by Evelyn Forget, who was inspired to write the report The Town with No Poverty. She found that even in that short time the basic income experiment resulted in a significant reduction in hospitalization for accidents and injuries, and massive improvements in mental health, including far less anxiety and depression. A higher proportion of high school students also went on to graduate and although some young mothers did spend more time at home looking after children as they could now afford to, main breadwinners kept working, and there was no increase in unemployment. Historically, basic income has supporters on the right who see the benefits of a smaller state and less complex welfare systems, and on the left, who see basic dignity and an end to poverty as motivating factors.
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                  Driverless Metro in Copenhagen runs 24 hours a day
                  If you thought automation had decimated the manufacturing industry, just wait till you see what happens when the new smart machines enter the job market over the next decade. Driverless cars are proving to be safer than human-driven ones. How long before all taxis, buses, trains and trams are automatic? Have you used the Dubai or Stansted Airport trains, Copenhagen’s trams or the Barcelona underground? There are no drivers and you didn’t even notice….’

                • OBD where are you getting all of this crap you are posting???

                • overburdenddonkey

                  so, fly, to recap you don’t trust the people to administer UBI…YET with your scheme that some how magically happens without we the people…doing what exactly, oh yes, people taking over the now scant peopled operated means of production…duh!
                  it may of escaped your attention that the once industrial powerhouse the uk once was, is now gone, along with the industrial muscle of workers…
                  to produce and supply you with ‘free’ goods and services beyond your wildest dreams…

                • OBD

                  I did say production and distribution of anything and everything for free had to be a world wide undertaking not a uk one.

                  I am sure you are gleaning your information from a European wide conservative network, because it is right wing thinking to give more money to the rich whichever scheme you devise to replace a worldwide welfare state.

                  The only way would be to end all economic ideologies which may or may not follow ‘The wealth of nations’ critique but does not cater for the wealth of nations and never will as long as we are following market philosophies.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  so i your scheme you don’t need, the will of the people, wow!…

                • OBD

                  You can look at any survey and find that there has been both selective questioning and selective people to answer the questionaires, yet this is fed to us as statistics.

                  We have a voting system that is supposed to be democratic, yet we have a party in power (doing whatever the hell they want) that were not elected by the majority.

                  Sometimes it does take someone to take the lead and think out of the box on what would be fairest for everyone throughout the world.

                  When capitalism can close shop here but open up in another country then you have to have a world wide idea that is going to rid us of the elites in favour of the majority and what the majority need, which is what you have been harping on about the essentials of life in all areas and some leisure activities too.

                  Ask people in third world countries if they would like a free world for everyone not just a select few and I’m sure you would get a different response, but the capitalists will not give you freedom where everything has got a price.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  your scheme depends on the will of the people that you simultaneously claim will not exist for a UBI…

                • You are working on the premise that a UBI will lift people out of poverty and it would at a cost, the cost being that they would see their income reduced to basics while others will have their income increased through the tax system on earnings and savings.

                  Only work will set you free if you are working for and being given everything for free, not by working for and giving everything except basics to the capitalists.

                  The world needs the educated to be at one with the rest of the world not paid to be elitist and vote with the elites.

                  It may become the will of the people to work for a better world than to settle for a third rate economic system that renders them redundant and on basics for as long as the capitalist want it that way.

                  If the capitalists wanted what is best for the whole world they would be sharing not hoarding.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  so in your scheme you don’t need, the will of the people, wow!…
                  your scheme depends on the will of the people that you simultaneously claim will not exist for a UBI…on one hand a UBI will be corrupted by the establishment and on the other hand your scheme won’t be…

                • second paragraph – should read by the capitalists not to the capitalists, although both could be right to some extent.

                • Since when was UBI your scheme, according to you it is the will of the people, but like I said it has been proposed by the rich for the people to accept or they will keep diminishing their welfare state until they do.

                  Or the poor throughout the world could demand a ‘real deal’ for their efforts by withdrawing their labour from all things capitalist and taking over the means of production themselves.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  so in your scheme you don’t need, the will of the people, wow!…
                  your scheme depends on the will of the people that you simultaneously claim will not exist for a UBI…on one hand a UBI will be corrupted by the establishment and on the other hand your scheme won’t be…and there is already great deal of support for a UBI, which is more than i can say for your non-nobel prize winning idea….as if, someone in china is going to leap up and down with joy @ the prospect of ‘free’ uk made computers and other goods etc…
                  no your scheme is http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-pish-gallop/

                • ps

                  Those that are making their living as landlords can only do so if they are allowed to own more than one property and that public money is available as housing benefit (if most of the people are going to be out of work) to pay these landlords.

                • You talk some rubbish obd people are only going to produce what people want and need, just as they do now.
                  No point in producing something people don’t need, the only difference is nobody will be undercutting anybody else.

                  Nobel can keep his prize, i’m noble enough for the both of us, which is more than can be said for you and your UBI OBD.

          • Bricks and mortar – knock down houses every 10 years, what are you building with lego bricks?

            • Southern Powerhouse

              Just think of all the jobs it would create😀

              • We need to reduce our working hours not increase them, more free time to go with our free goods (within reason, otherwise wanting too much will make slaves of us all, even the robots.)

                • overburdenddonkey

                  interesting forced labour and conditionality fly, the new freedom…sounds rather like arbeit macht frei….

                • Forced labour, if people don’t want to eat or have all of the other goodies for free they don’t have to work, but remember under the present system you have to work and are unable to afford hardly anything.

                  Or do you think it is fair to sit back and watch your fellow man provide everything for you (if able) or do you think they should contribute to their necessities? It would be interesting to hear what your take is on this?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  but they’re not for free, as one has to provide labour, skills, and other resources, to get what you call free goods and services…3hr working day is enough in hunter/gatherer day…
                  it’s a letts scheme you advocating….
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_culture
                  see also skara brea….

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ‘Forced labour, if people don’t want to eat or have all of the other goodies for free they don’t have to work, but remember under the present system you have to work and are unable to afford hardly anything…’
                  well done you’ve also quoted thatcher… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mound
                  “If a man will not work he shall not eat”

                • well spotted.

                • Then tell me until the automation and robots finally take over who will be doing the work other than people you moron obd and Maria?

                • I hope robots don’t take over the jobs, I like working actually, its just a shame no one will pay me for the work. But whatever you pay people with, goods, resources, money, it always open to corruption. Its not money or currency that is evil, it just depends on what people do with it and how fairly distributed so that all of society can, enjoy it and have their needs fulfilled.

                • Now who is being unrealistic or do you think the fairies grow the food and make the clothes, build the homes and run the transport, clean the toilets and bake the bread.
                  Get real yourself, those in the concentration camp worked and got nothing but the death knell.

                • no and they didn’t get a penny for their work either.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  if you think i’m going to work in a factory/warehouse to feed YOU you’ve got another thing coming… anyway it’s clear as you quoted thatcher where you’re coming from…. you expect the will of the people to support your trumped up letts scheme, yet at the same time denounce the same support for a UBI, as if, somehow then it the same group of people become corrupt… and economic independence which your so called free goods and services, will NOT achieve…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  esp with what you said about a group of warehouse workers linked too in the previous blog post…

                • OBD I would answer you if I knew what the hell you are talking about, I don’t think you have worked much at all, you are a liar and as far as you working for me goes, you say you are too old now so the youth and middle age would be working for YOU, but you would have no wealth like them, but would have everything you need to live a comfortable life as would everyone else in a free world – or do you want more than others, are you one of the greedy Thatcherites you accuse me of?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/09/sports-direct-warehouse-work-conditions your reply to this was this ‘someone has got to do the warehousing, be grateful you are not down the mines. and this ‘zero hour contracts mean they can pay you off when you like or you are free to leave, if the job is that bad then leave, but like I said someone has to do the job and it would be better if those in the warehouse fought for better conditions, joint a union anything other than put up with it….’ which is a typical right wing comment…

                • Those remarks I made about the warehouse was in answer to the way the system is now – not how a free system would work at all and both you and Maria know it.

                  No Maria those in the concentration camp did not get paid a penny not that a penny would have done them any good not having anywhere to spend it. We know you hate and blame the jews you have said so in many of your comments.

                  A free society would eliminate the need for currency but your work would provide you with everything you need and leisure facilities, unlike the system we have now or the system that OBD is proposing.

                • I am not an anti-Semite, nor will I ever be an holocaust denier either. I never said I hate Jews, I was merely pointing out that they were being used in a system where they themselves weren’t allowed to have money because they were seen a subhuman by the Nazis, they were slaves, they worked, those that could work for very little and poor treatment, and those that were deemed unfit for work, were gassed. So those that couldn’t work didn’t eat. And those that could work were given enough to just about survive until they were no longer useful. It can happen in any world, whether currency exists or not, that is the point you don’t understand, you can’t simply get rid of currency and expect the world to be banished of all its evils.

                • We can all trot out stories of wartime atrocities but wanting to feed the world is a peace story not a war story – do you know the difference?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  spot on maria…

                • Maria

                  You seem to be happy with evil so get on with it.

                • That is a poor comment and you know it. Of course if you’re decent, you wish people wouldn’t be evil to each other, but there is always people who want things that way. Point the finger at me and saying I delight in Evil, when I clearly don’t, is an evil on its own, so shame on you Flyhawks.

                • By the way OBD maria is only repeating what I said about my system will not bring about a PERFECT world but it will go a long way to making it so.
                  Perhaps you would care to look back on old posts to when I first broached the subject of a free world.

      • Lol I’m a working single mum and have been in my private rental for 20 years now I must of paid landlord mortgage off by now!!
        Can’t afford to buy and council won’t house me because I’ve got a roof over our heads. Can’t win

  19. A Place of Residence is a Basic Human Right For Decent People

    Defend Full Housing Benefit

    House the Homeless

  20. The Price of Houses to Buy in this Country Not Least London is
    Shockingly Expensive

    Basically a Rip Off

  21. So, not if, but when they start building camps….

  22. No to Neo Liberalism No to Austerity and No to Commercialmus Pantomime
    which is a Distraction from the Need For Social Justice

    Santa Hates You | December 14, 2015 at 8:38 pm | Reply

    For God’s sake not another savage attack on people living in social housing. Attacking people on low income seems to be this bastard government’s main agenda. Whether it’s through housing, workers rights, the benefits system, public transport the legal aid system, trade union membership, or public services, etc, the poor are being disenfranchised at every turn.

    You know, I thought Cameron and his scum government would have left it at the bedroom tax as that was bad enough on people living in social housing. But no, the cunt wants to destroy social housing for good – and it looks like he will do it this time. Destroy fucking capitalism now before it destroys you!

  23. The 15th of December Mark’s the Anniversary of The Drobytsky Yar Massacre in 1941 AD.

    This Occurred at a Ravine in Kharkov in the Ukraine when Nazi Forces had in the Region of 15,000 Jews Murdered with Children thrown Alive into the Pits in expectation of Quickly Freezing to Death

    No to Nazism in the Ukraine then and No to Nazism in the Ukraine Now including Kharkov

    The Horrors of Nazism should be Remembered just as with the Horrors
    of Thatcherism One of the Most Evil Tyrants in British History

  24. Indeed None so Thick as those who will Not Think

    Lackeys and Dupes of Oppression and Tyranny

    Common Sense Really Needs to be more Common

    Jeff Smith | December 14, 2015 at 11:50 pm | Reply

    A great many people believe all the Tory spin and lies about welfare and unemployment. The so-called ‘deficit’ and the need for austerity.
    It must be the greatest con-trick in social history, and the most successful.
    These vindictive Housing Benefit cuts are just the latest example in a long line.
    Yet come 2020, a huge section of the British Working Class will cheerfully vote for them again.

  25. Hackers trace ISIS Twitter accounts back to internet addresses linked to Department of Work and Pensions

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/technology-science/technology/hackers-trace-isis-twitter-accounts-7010417

  26. Present Britain does seem to Resemble Nazi Germany Sadly

    Cephalus | December 14, 2015 at 8:37 pm | Reply

    The thing is none of this will ever be rectified. This country is beyond fucked forever and history will not look kindly on the scum running the show at all. Future historians will wonder why it was allowed to happen the same way we in here are wondering just now. Make no mistake this is Nazi Germany all over again and we are the Jews.

  27. Proper Funding for Local Government and Local Government to
    Provide Public Services

  28. Defend the Welfare State No to Austerity Stoogery from the Parliamentary
    Labour Party and No Vote for the Liberal Democrats

  29. FAKE MEDICAL REPORTS, LOOK NO FURTHER THAN CAPITA, ATOS AND MAXIMUS………………..

    Be on your guard, you sadistic murderers because a spell behind bars looks probable.

    Two nurses who failed to carry out blood glucose tests on patients and then faked the results have been jailed.

    Lauro Bertulano, 46, and Rebecca Jones, 31, neglected patients on a specialist stroke ward at Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend.

    A third, Natalie Jones, 42, was given a community order for the same offence.

    Cardiff Crown Court heard they failed to check blood glucose levels at least every two hours on multiple occasions.

    All three previously pleaded guilty to multiple charges of wilful neglect.

    Rebecca Jones was sentenced to eight months, Bertulano to four and Natalie Jones was given a 12-month community order.

    ……………..All those reports you wrote where claimants scored not one point.
    Did you really think that you could walk away from ending someones life?

    “HOME VISIT”

    Are you expecting a visit in the future?

    • “TUT, TUT, WELL FANCY THAT”,
      THE DWP ARE LATE WITH A RESPONSE CONCERNING UNITED NATIONS INSPECTIONS……………

      From: Paul Taylforth

      16 October 2015

      Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

      Please send me copies of all correspondence (emails and letters)
      sent from DWP to all media from June 2015 to date regarding the
      UNCRPD enquiry on disability being held in the UK during 2015.

      Yours faithfully,

      Paul Taylforth

      Link to this
      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/uncrpd_enquiry#incoming-745261

    • paultheswineherd

      Geoff – Also, a few days ago it was reported that Nicky Morgan (the Tory Education Minister) was going to try to get a case together to present to the Crown Prosecution Service to go after the 3 ‘headteachers’ in 3 ‘unregistered’ Birmingham schools. It is interesting to note that, (although no one has died due to negligence or alleged criminality) these three people could, if prosecuted by them be facing a spell of time in jail.
      (I bet that she or any of them does’nt go after their own murderer and minister disgracing his own public office, IDS!)

  30. Margaret Thatcher has left an Evil Legacy with Her Diabolical Attitude
    of ” There is No such Thing as Society ”

    There is a Need For a Caring Society so No to Austerity and Neo
    Liberalism

  31. From their website:

    Protecting animals

    “We often get asked why we prosecute people.

    Wherever possible we offer advice and assistance to improve animal welfare, including giving people time to make improvements to their standards of care.

    But this is not always possible or appropriate, for example if there has been a deliberate act of violence against an animal, where people won’t accept assistance, or in extreme cases of neglect.

    It is under these types of circumstances when we consider prosecution under laws such as the Animal Welfare Act 2006. You can read just some of our recent prosecutions in our animal cruelty stories section.

    The power to prosecute

    Everyone in England and Wales has the right to bring a private prosecution against someone who they believe has committed an offence.

    Section 6(1) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985.”

    No power whatsoever! That’s that cleared up!🙂

    • “IT TOOK TWO PROMPTS AND A THREAT TO REPORT THE DWP TO THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION COMMISSIONER, BUT NOW THEY CLAIM THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE TO RESPOND BECAUSE A PILOT IS UNDERWAY”

      I CALL IT DESPERATION AND CORPORATE MANSLAUGHTER

      DWP finally promised in March this year – at the conclusion of the
      legal case – that it would work with Maximus, the controversial US
      outsourcing giant that took over the WCA contract from Atos this
      year, to develop a pilot programme to test new ways of collecting
      evidence for ESA claimants with mental health conditions.

      But so far – more than six months after that promise, and more than
      18 months after the coroner’s report was sent to DWP – there has
      been no sign of a pilot.

      Can you provide me with the following information;

      1) Will the DWP be undertaking a pilot programme to test new ways
      of collecting evidence for ESA claimants with mental health
      conditions?

      2) If the answer to 1) is yes, when will the pilot take place?

      3) If the answer to 1) is yes, how will the pilot be conducted?

      4) If the answer to 1) is no, why not.

      I look forward to receiving your response.

      Yours faithfully,

      G Millward
      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/coroner_states_that_death_of_cla#incoming-745439

        • @geoff

          UNBIASED NEWS, YOU MUST BE FUCKING JOKING

          BBC HIDING DEATHS BEHIND GLAD TIDINGS

          MURDOCH’S INSIGNIFICANT LITTLE PIMP AT THE BEEB

          • YET ANOTHER DEATH NOT LINKED TO THE DWP

            Changes to the benefits system in June last year meant that Mr Smith was invited to submit a Personal Independent Payment (PIP) claim, as his disability allowance was about to expire.

            But after the Department of Work and Pensions ruled that he was ineligible, Mr Smith and his partner Lucy Stewart, who was also on benefits relating to a learning disability, saw their weekly total cut by £137.55, and left the 50-year-old in depair over his financial situation.

            However, a follow-up call from the DWP explaining its decision did not take place, prompting Mr Smith to send a formal letter to reconsider the assessment in November with the help of the Disability Advice Centre..

            A second error at the DWP in December resulted in Mr Smith’s details being updated, before his appeal was mistakenly closed down before it had been labelled for reconsideration. The DWP in its statement said it admitted that errors had been made.

            At the inquest in IP-City Centre Ipswich yesterday, Miss Stewart’s father David said the ensuing anxiety and reduced payments were the triggers for Mr Smith’s suicide.

            The inquest also heard that Mr Smith had begun mental health treatment in 2000 after the death of his mother, but had been stable in recent years before anxiety over his benefits caused his symptoms to become worse.

            Assistant coroner Nigel Parsley said: “I do find it a truly tragic case. Lucy was a real positive factor in his life and that kept him on an even keel for a considerable part of the time, but I cannot ignore the fact that he suffered from mental illness and had admitted suicidal thoughts.”

            A conclusion was recorded that Mr Smith had taken his own life

            http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/leiston_man_50_died_after_being_unable_to_cope_with_changes_to_benefits_1_4345054

            ……………………………………………………………………………………………………..

          • The Beeb, just another public sector gravy train for those educated at public schools, totally agree Sarah 7.

          • Apologists for Israel take top posts at BBC

            The American poet T.S. Eliot wrote that “April is the cruelest month.” The phrase springs to mind in April 2013, the month that a new director-general took up his post at the BBC and, within two weeks, had installed a line-up of hardline Zionists at the top of the world’s largest publicly-funded news organization.

            Tony Hall, whose role as director-general commenced on 2 April, is a former BBC director of news and can boast a total of nearly 30 years working at the corporation. As such, he is well-versed in the BBC’s values — he knows what the BBC wants.

            Soon after his own appointment, Hall named James Harding as the BBC’s new director of news and current affairs. Until December, Harding was editor of The Times, an avowedly right-wing, pro-Israeli paper owned by Rupert Murdoch’s News International group.

            In 2011, Harding spoke at a media event organized by The Jewish Chronicle, telling his audience: “I am pro-Israel. I believe in the State of Israel. I would have had a real problem if I had been coming to a paper [The Times] with a history of being anti-Israel. And, of course, Rupert Murdoch is pro-Israel.”
            Glee

            The strongly Zionist Jewish Chronicle reprinted those words with glee as news of Harding’s BBC appointment broke. And it also took the opportunity to remind its readers that, during the Israeli massacre in Gaza in late 2008 and early 2009, when more than 1,400 Palestinians were slaughtered, Harding wrote a Times editorial titled, “In defense of Israel” (“Signs of The Times at JCC,” 14 April 2011).

            Now bringing his pro-Israel biases into the top ranks of the BBC, Harding will be in charge of its flagship news and current affairs programs including Today, Newsnight, Panorama and Question Time. He will also be responsible for daily news bulletins on the BBC’s main television channels and radio stations.

  32. Here we have one of the big problems with employment nowadays. They (employers) don’t want to hear any dissenting voices from workers, despite them enduring rubbish working conditions. It’s no coincidence that the Tory party want to pass anti-union legislation to further weaken an already useless set of organisations (The Unions)

    http://leftfootforward.org/2015/08/amazon-factory-conditions-shut-up-or-robots-get-your-job-says-times-writer/

    • Robots could also be programmed to chop off the head of their employers, save us the job 🙂

    • Another Fine Mess

      Raining.
      At the same time they want to sanction the workers for not improving their hours/pay. Forget about ‘progressing’ in work, even if all 350,000 low-paid/not-paid shelf stackers somehow ‘progressed’ to become the CEOs, we’ll still need 350,000 low-paid/not-paid shelf stackers, they’ll just be different people. We really need to start building the gallows.

      • In a free society we would probably need even more shelf stackers and no pay but everything would be free, only more would be need to be produced for the ones who are going without now, although plenty goes in supermarket skips if they can’t sell the goods so maybe not.

        • overburdenddonkey

          oh dear, reality is creeping into your thinking…

          • You just have no vision of what could be reality OBD!

            • ps you are the one that said there will be less jobs and more automation and robots, therefore maybe’s not so much for the workers to do, or are you going to contradict yourself again.
              What work needs to be done needs to be shared out amongst the able.

              • overburdenddonkey

                no! it won’t work (commence) coz we have no access to the means of production (global and/or local) and never will have, not now….

                • Says who Mr defeatist?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  you’re the one who threw in the towel and refused to appeal coz you had something else to fall back which precipitated the decline in our welfare state..i fought for my rights…

                • How many times do you and your cronies have to be told I did appeal, did my own appeals and they never got an airing, was denied any info on how appeal was doing and denied hardship benefit.

                  First from the new labour lot, then from the twisted tories.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  you said you couldn’t get hold of the appeal forms….

                • Never in a million years did I say that, stop storytelling obd.
                  I fought everything and everyone on my own, because I was the one who had the real facts of what new labour was about at the time and the only student who refused to get into debt for tuition fees.

                • OBD you will never be free because only the truth sets you free and you wouldn’t know it if it hit you with a sledge hammer.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ‘ps Did you not read that my appeals never got a hearing because they were discarded being one of the first to challenge the withdrawal of benefits, which you appear to think is ok so long as it is providing work for you as an advocate.
                  I was one of the first people to be sanctioned after Blair came to power and I was only claiming benefit because I refused to get into thousands of pounds worth of debt to pay for further university tuition which labour brought out.
                  I did find work temporarily and part time, had to submit the hours I worked and my income made up to benefit levels as I still had a dependant at home.
                  All my appeals were binned by dwp staff when I refused to do work voluntarily for benefits and after being sanctioned, so appeal forms were not much good either then or now.

                  Both the dwp and council offices would say they had sent out forms when they hadn’t, making you walk miles to their centralised heated offices in all weathers and I’m sure such bastards would be given some kind of congretional type medal for their evil deeds.’

                • It was not appeal forms I did not get, they sent them alright knowing they were going to throw them in the bin.
                  It was the hardship allowance forms I did not get from job centre and housing benefit forms from the council, both stating they must have got lost in the post – very funny!
                  You mouth off about things you know nothing about.

  33. fsjkdfasldjaslfjaslfjaslfjaslfslafjaslfjasljfaslfjas

    sdfjkllasfhasofhdld;gljksd;gjopgtiwepotjk;lghjeoptuiweopgl;sdgjdpsgtuiweptjl;sdjgoituqw0rehjkl;efghioawtjlwgjodfgjlefk3riotueofjksdpfisqpryuweroptyefklgjwer[tjgrujyghjeflpgjap[tueroyuhjtrlhjtrioyuweriopguotihjyeprgjdfp[gueropgueropgjeiopgjeprogtjuerpotuoghfjiogjweoptheripthjowerpgejropgjeroptjueorpitueorigjerogjeroptgjueropgtjufpgbjefoptueroptuiwepofuoer8tyeorgjoperjgoejgeoprgjeorpgjeropgjeropgfueroptjugeprgjeoprgjuoerupgoperugjoperdfjkfjsdlfjsdlgjasoptujerpgtjuaiotiopueroitopweugftjyepfjgpaeut0qwerutjpawejugtweptjgpjugoperwutjpoerjgopidfsugoweqpgjdtjopwertuperogjoerptugowerptjugeopgjeorituqwoptueio[0fgtuowertjgperogjutweropqtjpweojgoertujpwergjeropgjeroptujweopterptuo

  34. The SNP is backing a climate change deal to save the haggis from extinction:

  35. Our national dish up north is peace pudding and duck 🙂

  36. Probation service in Wales faces ‘disastrous’ 40% budget cut

    Working Links was awarded the contract to run the probation service last year, and does so through a firm called Wales Community Rehabilitation Company (WCRC)

    http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/probation-service-wales-faces-disastrous-10606246

  37. “DUNKO THE CLOWN TRIPS OVER HIS BIG SHOES”

  38. Down with Slavery and Oppression Austerity is Evil

    Remember David Clapson

  39. It makes my Blood Boil the Sheepish Scum out There who are Oblivious
    to what Oppression is Collaborating by being so Dammed Clueless

    A Plastic Shop Dummy has More Character than the Scum Ivory Tower
    Toff to Townie Thug Meathead Shower of ” Modern People “

  40. Haggis is Worth Saving the Liberal Democrats and Austerity Stooges of
    the Parliamentary Labour Party are Not Politically

    People can Eat Haggis it tastes Good Austerity is like Eating Excrement
    Revolting and Harmful so Shove Austerity

  41. Only Seen 1 Nativity Scene Display so Far when Out

    Christmas has Degenerated from being about the Birth of Jesus Christ
    to a Orgy of Degenerate Materialist Commercialism whilst there is so
    much Degrading Poverty Misery and Homelessness

      • A beautiful version of silent night if listened to right through.

        • overburdenddonkey

          temps one of my fav bands…
          this is a terrible/dreadful song of false hope in horrendous conditions….

          • Not if you believe the world war 1 story about enemies all singing silent night together on xmas eve.
            Only an anthiest like you and Scrooge could put a dampener on Xmas.

            • overburdenddonkey

              don’t tell me what to believe, i get fed up with it being crammed down my throat, can’t move for fucking hypocrites, like yourself….the religious society of friends for one don’t celebrate christmas…

              • Friend for one what is that a slogan.

                I’m not telling you what to believe,it seemed you were telling others they shouldn’t believe and they live in false hope.

                cram nothing down anybody’s neck unlike these UBI followers, and I am most certainly not a hypocrite.

                • I cram nothing down anybody’s neck.

                • I have already read your pish gallop, there is plenty of it coming from you too obd.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  no i stick to the facts and certainly don’t intrude on personal believes in the way you think is your right of free speech….which btw is the right to fair comment, and therefore must be honest and founded..

                • You obd were the one that was jumping all over Christian beliefs.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  that’s my choice….as you jumped over mine FIRST…

                • Where did I jump over yours first?? You make anything up!

                • overburdenddonkey

                  here you twat… ‘Not if you believe the world war 1 story about enemies all singing silent night together on xmas eve.
                  Only an anthiest like you and Scrooge could put a dampener on Xmas….’
                  got to argue about everything haven’t you….!

                • I posted the temptations xmas song and you started screaming horrendous song giving false hope etc. So you started the bloody argument not me.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  WOW! i made fair comment, you seem to think what you say can’t be questioned….

                • I am proving a point that you were happy to blame me for and which was actually you that started the argument – pissoff obd you’re a wanker.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  no you’re not getting away with that…i said temps one of my fav bands…
                  this is a terrible/dreadful song of false hope in horrendous conditions….this is fair comment
                  you replied; ‘Not if you believe the world war 1 story about enemies all singing silent night together on xmas eve.
                  Only an anthiest like you and Scrooge could put a dampener on Xmas….’ which is insulting and therefore NOT fair comment…

              • I said that in reply to you insulting Christianity which according to you is fair comment, I posted a song for heavens sake get over it.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  no! fly….
                  you posted a song that according to you is beautiful, and you responded, as if, your view’s are established (establishment) fact and should not be challenged…if glorifying war and using a well known song to do it, is your christian belief then this view should be challenged…as your subsequent ref confirmed is what you’re doing…which is what this song is tellingly associated with is ww1…the cruel and fleeting hope of peace set to calm the soldiers battle weary nerves/minds for the briefest of moments….the people who were forced to, and continue to fight war…
                  ‘Not if you believe the world war 1 story about enemies all singing silent night together on xmas eve.
                  Only an anthiest like you and Scrooge could put a dampener on Xmas…’
                  i disagreed with your pov as i’m entitled to do…as i made fair comment i don’t have to concern myself with whether you like my comment or not, as i expressed my views in well founded and certain knowledge…
                  i am entitled to challenge your pov you responded with personal insults, when i did…not rational argument…basically what you’re saying is that i’m not entitled to challenge anything you say and/or agree with, as you see this as your authority being challenge, therefore see it as a threat and a personal insult/slight/affront to your command status…
                  your reply which is so often posted by yourself was by implication ‘how dare you challenge me’….i protested about your use of a song to justify your version of what christmas is really about….together with this songs well known associations, that you did not disagree with and even confirmed, and are in fact true…

                • There you go jumping to conclusions again, although I will not deny I do love the lyrics to silent night, it was the beautiful harmonising particularly the base notes that I felt gave this version justice, that was why I asked people to listen to the end.

                  Have you go OCD OBD because you will not let anything drop but you are never correct in your thinking.

                • J. Robert Oppenheimer

                  You support the SNP’s fuckwit anti-nuclear policy, obd? Anti-nuclear war but not ant-war? i.e pro-conventional war, the conventional war that led to the horrors of trenches, and the slaughter of our young men. If you and the fuckwit right-wing SNP had your way you would turn the weapons technology clock back 100 years and join with Wee Nicola, the fat fascist Alex Salmond and the rest of SNP in sending our young men to their doom in the trenches.

                • J. Robert Oppenheimer

                  You support the SNP’s fuckwit anti-nuclear policy, obd? Anti-nuclear war but not ant-war? i.e pro-conventional war, the conventional war that led to the horrors of trenches, and the slaughter of our young men on an industrial scale. If you and the fuckwit right-wing SNP had your way you would turn the weapons technology clock back 100 years and join with Wee Nicola, the fat fascist Alex Salmond and the rest of SNP in sending our young men to their doom in the trenches.

                • I’m A Christian and OBD has never insulted me once or I have never seen anything that insults Christians in general, you on the other hand insult me in every other post about all kinds of things, maybe you should take your own advise.

                • Maria stop being Rabs doll.

                • you unbelievable flyhawks. There is no point in trying to have a conversation with you.

            • OBD/Fly.. Chill out for Christ’s sake! (Whoops).

              Besides, listen to The Dickies version. It’s much faster and funnier. Merry Xmas.


              • There you go. The Dickies – Silent Night 1979

                • where the Dickies did you get that from Razor.
                  I hope it cheers the homelsess what No oppression was on about and why I posted the temps version – OBD thinks everything is about him.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  the usefulness of my recent posts is to demonstrate that beyond doubt some demand to be served without question…and will say anything to justify themselves and try to fade memories of what they have previously said…summed up in this post… http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-pish-gallop/

                • OBD you have proved nothing because I most certainly do not DEMAND to be served, but just for you and because it is xmas I will not do a Steve Davis, but will concede the point to you, despite it being bullshit.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  a truce how sweet fly…! all you need to do is to make fair well founded honest comment and there would never have been a problem in the 1st place…lets see how long you’ll last, before you’re back to normal….
                  and btw you must concede the point for real not pretend just for now…

  42. Shame on the Stooges and Scrooges of the Parliamentary Labour Party
    Slave Labour Run Councils and also the Liberal Dictatorcrats for being
    Stooges of Austerity and Scrooges to the Poor

    Proper Funding to Local Government

    Increase Welfare Benefits and End Austerity

  43. Who makes this crap up? And how do they manage to massage the figures to this extent? Unreal.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-35111020

  44. We hear the same thing about the NHS now costing £1.7billion to run – I would love to see a breakdown of expenditure.

  45. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    DWP – Jobcentre – Food Bank Christmas Carol Songs.

    Decks The Halls With Lots Of G4S.
    Sanction Bells.
    The Good King Went To IDS.
    All I Want For Christmas Is A Sanction.
    Away In A Sanction.
    Ding Dong Merrily On Food Banks.
    God Rest Ye Merry DWP Deaths.
    Hark The Herald Angels Sing On A 35 Hour A Week Job Search.
    O Little Town Of Rocket Bunkers.
    Silent DWP.
    While IDS Watched Their Flocks.

  46. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Some posters !!! All day posting thinking they are getting somewhere.

  47. paultheswineherd

    Let’s hope that if it does turn into a court case, then the judges aren’t bent or paid ‘extra’ by the Tories to keep any ‘challenge’ at bay!
    Cuts to Universal Credit may be illegal:
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/16/benefit-cuts-universal-credit-illegal-labour

  48. Here you go everyone, a little bit of seasonal cheer to brighten up our days, from the bloke who’s never earned a penny of his wealth in his life, who is only answerable to his mum, who secretly gets to know about all that is going on in his theifdom …. and is one of the nation’s biggest benefit scroungers

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-charles/12055234/Prince-Charles-and-Camilla-hug-on-Christmas-card.html

    enjoy and may homelessness, pennilessness, joblessness and discrimination and oppression always be ours :0)

    • well said Jeremy

        • So the penny has finally dropped on what I was implying – peace at Christmas, you should try it.

          • overburdenddonkey

            wow! and the rest of the yr should be battle bloodied and gruesome…
            the song silent night, is one of desperation, futility; inevitability and of surrendering one’s fate and soul to a higher power…
            a song/prayer of capitulation and resignation, marking what tomorrow will bring, ensuing death and injury… it’s a working mans/soldiers prayer, a prayer of the living dead….you posted a song that according to you is beautiful, and you responded, as if, your view’s are established (establishment) fact and should not be challenged…if glorifying war and using a well known song to do it, is your christian belief then this view should be challenged…as your subsequent ref confirmed is what you’re doing…which is what this song is tellingly associated with is ww1…the cruel and fleeting hope of peace set to calm the soldiers battle weary nerves/minds for the briefest of moments….the people who were forced to, and continue to fight war…‘Not if you believe the world war 1 story about enemies all singing silent night together on xmas eve.
            Only an anthiest like you and Scrooge could put a dampener on Xmas…’
            i disagreed with your pov as i’m entitled to do…as i made fair comment i don’t have to concern myself with whether you like my comment or not, as i expressed my views in well founded and certain knowledge…
            i am entitled to challenge your pov you responded with personal insults, when i did…not rational argument…basically what you’re saying is that i’m not entitled to challenge anything you say and/or agree with, as you see this as your authority being challenge, therefore see it as a threat and a personal insult/slight/affront to your command status…
            your reply which is so often posted by yourself was by implication ‘how dare you challenge me’….i protested about your use of a song to justify your version of what christmas is really about….together with this songs well known associations, that you did not disagree with and even confirmed, and are in fact true…
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Patch ww1/christmas didn’t/does not bring peace as you continue to imply….but respite…to the inevitable…

            • posting a song was not giving a point of view, asking people to listen to the singing to the end as I explained earlier is not throwing anything down your neck.

      • “ALL THOSE CLAIMANTS MARKED AS ZERO ON THEIR MEDICAL REPORTS, ANYONE WOULD THINK THEY WERE FAKED”

        Yesterday i tried posting a link to a freedom of information request to the Dwp regarding how many claimants with disabilities had been awarded zero points at work capability assessments.
        Six times it was blocked…………….

        The DWP are refusing to answer the request at the same time as UN inspectors are wondering how come so many previously disabled have miraculously been found fit.

    • Ha! Ha! Jeremy, I believe the word is fiefdom as in fief 5-4 fum he’s got the blue blood of an Englishman.

  49. Yes to a Christmas in a Caring Society with Decent Public Services with
    the Homeless being Housed One that Acknowledges Christmas as being
    about the Birth of Jesus Christ

    No to a Commercialmus in a Evil Individualistic Materialist Abomination of
    a Society where People on one Hand get Drunk on Champagne whilst
    others are Oppressed by Poverty

    • NoOppression

      I notice OBD is not jumping down your throat for your beliefs, he typically has double standards and is selective about who he picks his fights with, which should not be me because I beat him every time.

  50. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Number of homeless families living in B&Bs hits 12-year high in England

    TheGuardian – Thursday 17 December 2015 11.40 GMT

    DCLG figures reveal 45% rise in households with children living in emergency bed and breakfast accommodation

    The number of families with children living in emergency B&Bs in England rose by 45% in the 12 months to the end of September, the highest level in 12 years, official figures show.

    A total of 3,000 households with children were in bed and breakfast-style accommodation on 30 September 2015, the Department for Communities and Local Government (DCLG) said. Of these, just under a third had been in that kind of accommodation for more than six weeks.

    The figure is the highest since the summer of 2003 and underlines how councils are struggling to find suitable lodgings for homeless families.

    Read More:
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/dec/17/homeless-families-bed-and-breakfast-england-dclg

  51. Seeing is believing

    The cost for 2 kids and their mother to live in a b&b is £300 a week, I bet you tossers all still vote for the labour party.

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