What a fucking shambles, the rise and demise of Community Work Placements

Iain-Duncan-Smith-poutIn 2013 the government published an evaluation of the Community Action Programme.  This workfare pilot scheme involved sending long-term unemployed people to work without pay for six months for charities or so-called community organisations.  It was one of several workfare programmes introduced in a flurry of activity after the 2010 election as Labour’s forced work schemes were shut down at huge cost to be replaced by Tory forced work schemes.  As the evaluation later found, the Community Action Programme was a disaster.

Despite attending full time forced work for six months the programme had no impact on whether people were able to secure paid work.  Even unpaid workfare placements could not be found for half the participants, whilst there was some evidence of claimants transferring to sickness benefits as they were too unwell to carry out full time physical work.  So shit were the results from the evaluation that many assumed it would be abandoned, including apparently Iain Duncan Smith who was unusually quiet about the future of the scheme.

Then came the 2013 Tory Party conference.  Whilst Iain Duncan Smith was reduced to announcing a small scale pilot scheme in his speech, George Osborne stole the limelight by pledging a vast £300 million ‘Help To Work’ programme including forced community work for long term unemployed people, for six months, without pay.  And so the Community Action Programme was renamed Community Work Placements and set to be inflicted on all of those leaving the Work Programme.  As ever it would be overseen by private companies from the welfare-to-work sector.

It was clear that Community Work Placements would be shambles as soon as the tender documents were published.  An analysis of the proposed payment structure by Private Eye found that it could be more profitable for welfare to work companies to keep people on workfare rather than encouraging them to take up short periods of real work.  This of course didn’t bother the welfare-to-work sector, who were more concerned with the requirement that if they could not find somebody a placement then they would have to provide 30 hours of work related activity themselves.

Traditionally this has been achieved by herding people into a room containing a couple of out of date newspapers and a broken computer and ordering them to stay there for 30 hours a week.  Even this costs money though, at the very least someone has to be paid to sit in a back office all day playing Angry Birds whilst pretending to supervise the inmates.  And not only did the welfare-to-work companies have to provide this activity, but they wouldn’t be paid anything until they found someone a placement.  With the previously mentioned pilot showing that placements could only be found for half of participants then this was not the kind of DWP gravy train the workfare industry has come to expect.

Very few of the usual welfare-to-work sharks chose to bid for Community Work Placements, and those that did, such as Learn Direct, had little experience of running schemes of this scale.  But there was one firm who were very keen to get back in the Government’s good books.  There was just one problem.  At the time G4S were banned from carrying out government contracts due to being  investigated after the security tagging fiasco.

The companies set to run Community Work Placements were supposed to be announced at the beginning of March 2013.  This announcement never came.  It was not until mid-April that the DWP informed those who had bid for contracts whether they had been successful, and two weeks later before they bothered to tell the public.  The investigation into G4S was closed on the 9th April.  On the evening of the 28th April, the day Community Work Placements were due to begin, it was finally admitted that G4S would be running the placements in most areas of the UK.

This delay meant that the scheme was long behind schedule, but those opposed to it were very much on the ball.  First dozens, then hundreds of charities signed the Keep Volunteering Voluntary statement pledging not to take part in this or other workfare programmes. Demonstrations were called by Boycott Workfare and other groups, whilst even previously enthusiastic workfare advocates like the Salvation Army said they would not take part in a scheme lasting so long.  The problem of securing enough placements was getting worse.

Over the next year and a half thousands of people were sent to work, without pay, for six month stretches.  Yet there was no word from the DWP on whether any of these participants had gained real jobs as a result of the Help To Work programme.  There still isn’t.  It was not until last month that any performance figures for Community Work Placements were made available at all and these neglected to include job outcome rates.  What they did tell us is that less than half of all people referred to the scheme had actually started a placement.  Which was hardly surprising.

Last week George Osborne scrapped Community Work Placements in his Autumn Statement document rather than admit in his speech that his much fan-fared Help To Work initiative had been a flop.  The truth is that these placements didn’t help anybody except the charities and community organisations who benefited from up to 20 million hours of forced unpaid work.  There have been no statistics made available on how many people have had their benefits sanctioned for refusing to take part in this embarrassing and exploitative mess.  Bungled schemes like this carry real human consequences, consequences that can be tragic.

Referrals to Community Work Placements should end in March next year although it is likely to start being wound down now.  It is in no-one’s interests to keep this charade going, not even G4S who for once are probably not making any money, or at least not much.   Workfare, on this kind of scale, is expensive.  Far more expensive than just leaving people the fuck alone.  The DWP spends nearly twice as much on admin, Jobcentre salaries and payments to welfare to work companies then they do on actually paying people the pittance of Jobseeker’s Allowance.  But don’t expect them to have learnt their lesson.

A new Health and Work Programme is due to begin in 2017.  Once again this will be contracted out to private companies although there is some suggestion that local councils are also to be invited on board the workfare gravy train.  It is likely, although not certain, that this programme will make use of the ‘black box’ approach – meaning welfare-to-work companies having the power to mandate claimants to any activity they choose, including workfare.  Until then those on the current Work Programme can still face forced work under the same arrangements.  Plans have also been announced to compel all those under 21 to carry out unpaid work experience for private companies or be sent on community workfare.  Workfare isn’t going anywhere yet, although that should not stop us celebrating this important victory.

It is an open secret that Iain Duncan Smith and George Osborne despise each other.  The lives and futures of benefit claimants now appear trapped between a clash of two egos.  Osborne thought he could do workfare better than Iain Duncan Smith and has been humiliated.  In revenge he seems to have turned off the vast sums of tax payer’s cash that were being used to pay for Iain Duncan Smith’s endless crazy schemes.  What this means for the future is anybody’s guess.  Millions of people are now at the mercy of two warring politicians.  Both believe in a nasty ideology that claims unemployment is caused by unemployed people – and increasingly that sickness and disability are caused by unemployment.  They just disagree on the best way to torment and punish claimants for their perceived sins.   The future is far from rosy for the poor, but in the chaos that is to come there will be more opportunities than ever for collective action to defeat and destroy this bullshit for good.

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165 responses to “What a fucking shambles, the rise and demise of Community Work Placements

  1. Pingback: What a fucking shambles, the rise and demise of Community Work Placements | the void | sdbast

  2. Reblogged this on perfectlyfadeddelusions and commented:
    This is what is keeping me awake at night. I am worried sick, and my advisor at Maximus is pressuring me into doing charity work.

  3. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Health and Work Programme £600 million contracts up for grabs.
    The new charity called “Stop DWP Killings” is the charity to work for as a bullshit confidence trickster spotter. Maximus letters they send are on the cheapest paper with no bar coding & are open to fraud by Maximus not the claimant. A Maximus spokesperson said …. A DWP spokesperson said …… Until you put a name down instead of a spokesperson it is Not Fit for Purpose.

  4. I had a quick look for the Work and health Programme and who is running it and what it is… Well it’s Maximus in bed with Remploy does anyone know any thing different? I went on Maximus site last week and found that, no info about what exactly this programme is about though.
    It’s properly same shit different day/ year.

  5. same shit different shovel shall sign nothing worked last 10 years lol😉

  6. I faced the threat of six months’ unpaid ‘charity’ work by my ‘Jobs Advisor’ at the Work Programme. The threat of being put in a call-centre for a ‘charity’ was the last straw: I’ve taken part-time insecure work instead. I’m not claiming Working Tax Credits as I don’t want anything to do with Conditionality, the Job Centre, the DWP and especially my Work Programme provider. I know for sure that unpaid placements in charity shops / call-centres / chugging don’t lead to work – the experience of my friends at the WP has proven that.

    Christmas is looking precarious, but no more Work Capability Assessments, no more threats of sanctions, no more listening to ‘advice’ that was actually counter-productive, malicious sabotage of my prospects. I found work despite the WP, in a field they advised me against, using my qualifications and experience. The past year has been a waste of my time, led to unbelievable stress and ill-health – let alone the financial toll it’s taken on me.

    A pox on Iain Duncan Shipman and his disgusting arch-foe George ‘Snorty’ Osborne.

    • I knew they was making me unemployable, and for years I believed they were helping me. May not ever be useful to society now, but at least I’m free of them for now.

      • Hi Maria.

        All work programmes, no matter how they dress them all up and give them fancy names under the sun – job club, new deal, flexible new deal, yts all do the same final outcome – make us more un-employable than ever. All those work placements replace real jobs with real wages with slave forced work fo nothing or JSA (if we are that lucky).

        All work schemes under what stupid name have failed and crashed and yet the government see past these true figures of cocking up the rights of us nameless people caught in the radar of IDS and his woolly cronies. I have been on more useless schemes than have had hot dinners – of which none of the placements I have gone through have offered me proper paid work.

        One such employer (along time ago) admitted to me that he only wanted me to be a lackey and dogsbody just to make both him and the JCP look as if they were actually helping me back into a work ethic and he only wanted me for the length of the palcement contract.

        • Your right Fen they would do well just to pay people the money and leave them alone and if there are jobs to have anyway they would be filled anyway because most people want a job and a life, even people too ill to work want a job and a life and all those lies they tell about people not wanting to work is disgusting.

          • I’ve been on all the 4 week, two-year and 6 month WP bollocks. The JCP can’t stick me on any more now so I hope I don’t see myself time wasted again just to bump up the WP figures and get whomever more money in their greedy pockets.

        • ‘Work Ethic’ ..Helping you back into..
          Utter bollocks tory propaganda.
          Lets see a starting wage, paid weekly, of say £9.99 per hour full employed status and see how many people who have been on J.S.A for two years turn their nose up at it.
          Especially youngsters. They would be kicking the door down unless they are particularly canny drug dealers.
          This spin bullshit ‘means test’;
          (‘Oh, look: if you gut chickens 8 hrs a day for £30 a shift after tax you will be £14 a week better off’_if you walk 5 miles each way)
          does nothing to incite me to make some employer wealthy.
          Most people HAVE a work ethic, it is human nature to seek material things and to improve life status and quality.
          Its also human nature to object to being taken the piss out of and graft forever whilst doing neither of the above.
          The simple fact is deliberate inflation via rent hikes across the board to make the poorest pay for the banking fiasco whilst leaving the gates wide open has resulted in a lot of people who say ‘bollox to it then, you caused the wage drop, I will put me feet up until it changes’.
          FUCK ‘EM !

          • I’m very lucky: my work gives me an excellent hourly rate, even though I barely scrape 15 hours per week. I added up how many hours including travel I was doing at the Work Programme with all the added stress & fortnightly signing on – giving the DWP / JCP 15 chances to sanction me in a fortnight, in effect. Weigh that up against barely £30 p/w better off for the same hours plus travel time on top – no contest, I had to sign off. It was such a relief.

            Added (bizarre) bonus is I’m now treated with respect by everyone I meet – a massive difference to how I’ve been treated since I became disabled and went on Incapacity Benefit. I will never forgive or forget how this government and its lackeys in the DWP, JCP, ATOS and Work Programme treated me and other unemployed and disabled people. We should all be treated with respect all the time: it makes me so angry that we are treated like dirt.

          • well said Nemo, capitalism is for the capitalist not the workers. Who is this Hermes trying to kid and coax into dead end jobs.

  7. They do not even no what they are doing they sent me a letter to attend a post work programme support interview with the jobcentre on a certain date even pit an advisors name on it then I phoned the dwp to be told the letter was wrong it was another date and time with a different advisor and they had not notified me and they also said that it was not what it said on the letter it was just to review if I needed anymore support from them then I did recieve a letter a week later yet again the date and time have changed and they are refusing to name the advisor but this time the letter says for a review of my benefits and they want bank statements which they can have iv nothing to hide🙂 but I also told them the same date as the original interview I also had a hospital appointment to which they said I would have to cancel I would have to attend the jobcentre or face a sanction yet they tell me that it is not to take me if my benefits or send me to work either I am also on pip benefits I have long term illness which could kill me and my gp says no way the dwp said they do not care what my gp says or that I have appointments at the hospital is this not stopping me from getting my treatment? Is this not attempted murder? I see it that way??

    • I never even had one of those post work programme support interviews after I had left those scammy fools seetec earlier this year. All I had was my JSA claim resigned by the JCP back to normal processes from the previous WP/JCP joint system.

  8. Even sanctions don’t get jobs to magically appear and get people into employment, they just make people destitute instead.

  9. The success of tory ideology can be measures within the parameters of your local obituary columns, etched on an urn or signified by thousands of tears………………

    If you wanted the disabled killed, the poor driven to hell and back, then your vote counted………………

    i have never struggled to heat my home nor chose a suitable meal from the smorgasbord of choice from my bloated freezer.

    This will be the fifth year that my family and i have not been able to turn on the gas fire.

    We are neither worthy of eating, let alone being warm…………….

    Hidden behind the hype is a trail of corpses so long that it puts the first weeks of the first world war to shame…………………

    Killing innocent people because they do not fit the government guidlines on acceptable trends is the mainstay of legislative changes.

    Imagine the outrage of the eu in condemning the shape of an irregular cucumber, now it accepted that a human is genetically maligned should be put to sleep,

    I am outside the governments classification of normal. In turn they wish to kill me, hence the actions of ATOS, CAPITA and MAXIMUS to exacerbate my murder using legislation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Fix me, fuck me, place me in a well varnished casket, my voice may be quite silent but the DWP’S hatred and treatment of those considered to be unworthy of living will sing out beyond the place of execution……………….

  10. I would like to post this poem in respect to all those people who have been murdered and punished by Iain Duncan Smith and his evil government. I’m sure a lot of those people who have been hurt by the Tories will understand some of the pain and sense of loss outlined in the verses of this poem.

    Be Silent Forever My Tortured Soul
    Poem written by I (M) SPARTICUS 2013

    An awful wall of sadness rushes to surround me
    Melancholy harvests spill out from my tortured soul
    Gone forever are the sounds of laughter or happiness here
    Only to be replaced by screams of inner strife and self-decay

    Be silent forever my tortured soul

    All inside, a consuming sea of nothingness quickly deepens
    Its greedy waves shallow up what soul remains
    Now quite simply left to be exiled and discarded
    That’s right, I know you’ll all look the other way

    Be silent forever my tortured soul

    Gone forever wonders found or significance valued
    Emptiness arrived at, and yes an early grave yet to lay in
    No choices left just a self-destruction to factor
    Alone, alone, I’m so damned alone – now I know I’m finally at the end of my days

  11. JV

    Well put and spot on.

  12. overburdenddonkey

    there is no doubt that they will continue to purse the same insane behaviourist based neoliberalist nightmare, ‘if you don’t work (for the system, as the system requires), you don’t eat…’
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sermon_on_the_Mound

  13. I love the way millions are spent on the royal benefit scroungers to jet set and party around the globe, yet they begrudge giving the poor £70 a week to live on, or £40 if your on hardship. Can’t that effing old bastard at buckers fund it’s own opulent lifestyle, after all it’s worth TRILLIONS!

  14. We have to work for fuck all to keep rich bastards in vast opulence and they’ve got the cheek to call us scroungers, they should be made to do workfare, lazy scumbags.

    • paultheswineherd

      Marie – I couldn’t agree with you more. Photographs of the ‘new’ royal princess have been released today – when George and Charlotte grow up there will be no ‘signing on’ or ‘workfare’ for them – they’ll most likely go to the very best public school/university and enter a priveleged place in the armed forces – then be pensioned out to live a life of rich idleness all at the ‘taxpayer’s’ expense. No poor living for them, no scrimping or saving to afford to put on the winter heating, or to pay for their groceries.
      The poor and the sick and the disabled will have none of their luxuries – only to be further pilloried and starved by a Tory Government which may well still be in power in 15-20 years time.
      A totally shameful situation in the 5th (but by then the 3rd or 4th) richest Country in the world.

  15. I was on that community work placement for four weeks back in Feb 2012. Guess who I was shoved into for that waste of my time… Seetec – who sent me out to some pokey place out in the sticks where I had to either rely on a piss poor local bus service between my town and the small village where I was bunged off to, or I had walk 5 miles per day, 5 days a week from and to the nearest bus stop that has a regular half-hourly service to and from town.

    I chose the later as it was the only reliable bus service that I knew of that could safely get me home each evening (and have used on a semi-regular basis for many years to date). At the end of the four weeks at where I was sent to on that CWP , I had completed a total of 100 miles on foot. The guy running the small place I went to on that CWP never even once offered or bothered to even take me there and back each weekday I was there.

    So, to sum up on my own experiences of this CWP bollocks, you will get sent anywhere regardless of how they expect you to get there and back in one piece, you will get sent to any old place that will not favour your work history, etc whatsoever. The likes of A4E, seetec, working links will send you to whomever they have a placement contract with; not on the basis of your skills or how you get there and home again.

    • “OSBORNE’S BROTHER FUCKS THE PATIENTS”

      Chancellor’s brother Adam Osborne suspended as a doctor – for second time
      George Osborne’s psychiatrist brother faces being struck off the medical register again as he receives ‘interim suspension’ for a reportedly alleged affair with a patient

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      By Lyndsey Telford

      6:32PM GMT 15 Mar 2015

      The Chancellor of the Exchequer’s brother Adam Osborne has been suspended as a doctor for a second time amid reports he had a sexual affair with a patient.

      The psychiatrist faces being struck off the medical register as the General Medical Council (GMC) confirmed he is not allowed to practise while under investigation.

      Dr Osborne, the younger brother of the Prime Minister’s right-hand man, has been accused of having an affair with a vulnerable female patient, who is understood to be married with children.

      While a decision is yet to be taken, Dr Osborne could be forced to attend an embarrassing fitness to practise hearing, where details of the alleged misconduct could be made public.

      His ‘interim suspension’ comes just days before the Chancellor is due to deliver Wednesday’s crucial budget – the Government’s last before the General Election.

      A GMC spokesman said that the interim suspension was not an indication of guilt

      ………………….BE WARY OF TRICK CYCLISTS POSING AS VULNERABLE PATIENT ADVISORS

      http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/11473444/Chancellors-brother-Adam-Osborne-suspended-as-a-doctor-for-second-time.html

      • Dr Osborne appeared before a fitness to practise panel in 2010, where it emerged he had written a false prescription for a cocaine-addicted prostitute, giving her anti-psychotic drugs to help her cope with withdrawal from the Class A drug.

        He also wrote a prescription for the Pill for his then girlfriend and an anti-smoking drug for a member of his family.

        Dr Osborne, now 38, faced being struck off the medical register, having failed to inform their GPs or make note of the prescriptions in question.

        During the public hearing, Dr Osborne was questioned about details of his relationship with the prostitute and revealed he only knew her first name when he wrote a false prescription in May 2008.

        The hearing heard that Dr Osborne agreed to help the prostitute when she telephoned him while suffering from a psychotic episode.

        The doctor, who converted to Islam in 2009 to marry Bangladeshi-born plastic surgeon Rahala Noor, had left the woman in the car park of Wythenshawe Hospital in Manchester, where he worked as a trainee psychiatrist, as he tried to get drugs for her.

        After a first attempt to get the drugs, which included the Class C-controlled Lorazapam, he went to another pharmacy where he didn’t write any name or address on the form.

      • Being a psychiatrist, he fucks the patients in more ways than one.

  16. i got the sack from my mwa placement and got 10 quid as well to do 1.

    still got sanctioned for non attendance and 1 cos there fucking liars as had proof i turned up on time.

    so even wanted the fee for me even tho never done 1 day at the place.

    jcp/dwp are complicit in letting the providers commit fraud and let them get away with it cos it suites them.

    • “THE LEGACY OF DUNKO THE CLOWN”

      The recent academic research that attributed 590 suicides to the work capability assessment also found that the assessment process caused 279,000 additional cases of mental health problems, and required doctors to prescribe to assessment victims an additional 725,000 antidepressant items. Can you just imagine: You’ve been made so ill by the WCA process that you need to go and beg for antidepressants. And when you get to the doctor you find yourself face-to-face with someone saying “hey! We might have just given you an extra mental illness on top of whatever condition you already had. But how about we send you on a workfare placement? That’ll perk you up. Or kill you. But either way, you won’t be a useless scrounger any longer.”

      • “DWP LAUGHING AT THE FAMILIES OF THE DEAD”

        Coroner states that death of claimant was as a direct result of a fit for work decision by DWP

        G Millward made this Freedom of Information request to Department for Work and Pensions

        Waiting for an internal review by Department for Work and Pensions of their handling of this request.
        From: G Millward

        18 September 2015

        Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

        I would refer you to the following article in which the coroner
        stated that the death of the claimant was as a direct result of a
        DWP decision that he was fit for work

        https://glynismillward189.wordpress.com/

        DWP finally promised in March this year – at the conclusion of the
        legal case – that it would work with Maximus, the controversial US
        outsourcing giant that took over the WCA contract from Atos this
        year, to develop a pilot programme to test new ways of collecting
        evidence for ESA claimants with mental health conditions.

        But so far – more than six months after that promise, and more than
        18 months after the coroner’s report was sent to DWP – there has
        been no sign of a pilot.

        Can you provide me with the following information;

        1) Will the DWP be undertaking a pilot programme to test new ways
        of collecting evidence for ESA claimants with mental health
        conditions?

        2) If the answer to 1) is yes, when will the pilot take place?

        3) If the answer to 1) is yes, how will the pilot be conducted?

        4) If the answer to 1) is no, why not.

        I look forward to receiving your response.

        Yours faithfully,

        G Millward

        https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/coroner_states_that_death_of_cla#comment-64781

  17. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – thanks for putting these on here.
    Also, I am wondering, after just seeing an interview with Elliott Johnson’s father on Sky News, where he says that they are going to go on and on until the people who are ‘responsible’ are brought to justice – whether in future there could be some linkage set up with other families who have suffered such cruel and uneccesary suicides under the jurisdiction of this terrible Government and it’s totally failed ‘welfare reform’ policies. Perhaps support in numbers could force these issues at last into the proper public limelight where it actually should be (and not covered up by Government/IDS/DWP intransigence). After all, there are other Coroner’s Inquests/Reports as well. Only a thought – but maybe yourself or any others on here may have any ideas about this, or how it could be achieved.

  18. paultheswineherd

    Grant Shapps has gone – but it is all very much far from being over yet!
    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/11/29/tory-bullying-row-set-to-rumble-on-despite-grant-shapps-quitting/

    • David Cameron muttered about how no parent should have to go thru such a thing as this.(Their son’s suicide.)

      While we have great sympathy for the position this poor boy ended up and for his parents and family………. we do note the great concern here by the Conservatives over this one suicide…..Not a single word of concern or care over the thousands and thousands of suicides due to the rules brought in under IDS.
      The Regime knows full well of the outcomes of its policies. Also, apart from the benefit sanctions and withdrawals of disability benefits due to ATOS/MAXIMUS, etc, we have the DWP in a state of shambles. Folks are sent forms, they fill out, and yet, weeks later get a notification JSA is stopped because said form has not been returned or completed or whatever.
      Just a few years ago, such matters could easily be cleared up at a local JobCenter. Now it must be a phone call, and even the local JobCenter seem either unable or unwilling to deal with it. “You have to phone this number or write. It is out of our hands”.
      Again…how many are plunged into destitution, despair and thence to suicide over such administrative chaos, which by the way, it must be pointed out, will cost DWP millions each year, tens of millions in fact, as reams are used up for this senseless admin, as well as the cost of the mail.
      David Cameron doesn’t even show the slightest concern for the family of a former soldier in his own constituency. George Ian Smith responds on live debates in front of millions that he is “Proud to get people off benefits” when confronted with the Glasgow man who died of heart attack due to benefits being stopped. No response from David Cameron to that poor man’s son, still at school who wrote him, demanding answers.
      All of this being supported by the New Nazi London media. Had Labour not been at war with itself, had so many of its present MPs not been secret tories, which we now see brought fully out into the open, IDS would have been out of Office within a year or two. Had they supported Independence for Scotland, Cameron would have been out of Office….then there was Clegg and his minions…….
      Instead. it is inner turmoil of the tory party itself, that seems to be doing all the main damage.
      The unfortunate death of this boy forces resignations. The deaths of thousands, the destitution of millions, the young and the poor, being forced out of their homes, the plight of the disabled, it means absolutely nothing to them at all.

      • overburdenddonkey

        gordon
        imv it’s how it plays out in msm as if they’re concerned about the emotional impact/affects of bullying…..

  19. Oi ! Smiffy! Back from the club again; we MISSED you..
    (The bailiffs had been round earlier and took the Dart board..)
    Are you SURE you dont wanna sell your Misssus?
    I promise you she will
    A) feel the diif and
    B) Not regret it.
    Hows tricks wi Ozzy Osborne anyway? I heard he pinched one of those ideas you pinched off some other fucking Lune, messed your Yang right up.
    Do you expect to get the No. 1 job whilst still breathin? Cos you WONT pal. Fucked is what you are; Fubard.
    But dont ‘let it get you down.or mess you up’ cos when you are lowered into the earth we will be dancin.
    Literally.
    Gettin back on the dole juice now, gotta coupla ‘ganster’ chicks in tow think I am your bodyguard. TTFN, Fuckwit.

  20. ‘Never gonna GIVE YOU UP, Never gonna LET YOU DOWN, never gonna blah bla bleugh blah, da doo do’..
    Fuck, lifes grand. Smiffy, if only you could enjoy life like we do on the states money,you would realize being a detested cunt all your life is just not worth it.
    Have a drink o swimmin pool piss, Ya detested cunt.

  21. Here, take one home to give to the Missus. I’m sure she will enjoy the change.

    • Mhairi Black: Why is food poverty on the rise in a rich nation?
      November 28th, 2015 – 12:28 am Mhairi Black

      A REPORT recently released by the Trussell Trust highlights a staggering increase in the use of food banks in Scotland over the past six months. As we come to the end of 2015, it is shocking to think that food poverty – the inability of people to feed themselves and their families – is actually rising in what is a rich nation.

      According to the Trussell Trust over 60,000 men, women and children in Scotland had to turn to a food bank for support. This is a 17 per cent increase since the same time last year and must raise a serious concern as winter approaches.

      Of the 60,458 emergency three-day food supplies distributed, 19,058 went to children. The scale of the issue can also be seen in the growth of food banks in Scotland run in partnership with the Trussell Trust. In 2011 there was one foodbank but as of November 2015 there are now 50 such food banks across twenty-seven Scottish local authority areas. Trussell Trust foodbanks in Scotland were responsible for 10.85 per cent of the overall emergency food provision in the UK, which is beyond Scotland’s population share of 8.2 per cent.

      Food poverty has a serious impact on people’s physical and mental health, especially if it is not short term, but happens on a repeated or regular pattern. New research from England has highlighted a rise in patients suffering from malnutrition and it is no doubt the same in Scotland’s NHS, as those who are not able to consume nutritiously balanced meals over time find their health affected and have an inability to ward off infections and diseases.

      http://www.thenational.scot/comment/mhairi-black-why-is-food-poverty-on-the-rise-in-a-rich-nation.10520

      • Nato general Sir Richard Shirreff warns air strikes on Syria are useless
        November 30th, 2015 – 12:34 am Kathleen Nutt

        A SENIOR military figure has warned UK air strikes on Syria will not defeat Daesh and could be the first step towards Britain being involved into a “bloody” and protracted war.

        General Sir Richard Shirreff, former Nato deputy supreme allied commander Europe, said a large number of western forces would eventually be needed to fight alongside local groups in order to recapture Raqqa, the extremist movement’s self-proclaimed capital. He spoke out after David Cameron last week ruled out the deployment of British ground troops when he pressed the case for bombing missions over Syria, saying the proposed air attacks would be coordinated with ground attacks by some of the 70,000 local troops in Syria linked to “moderate” groups opposed to Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad’s regime.

        But yesterday Shirreff told a national newspaper such a military strategy would not defeat Daesh or recapture Raqqa

        http://www.thenational.scot/news/nato-general-sir-richard-shirreff-warns-air-strikes-on-syria-are-useless.10604.

  22. “THOUGHT OF THE DAY”

    It amazes me how the DWP are always unable to produce up to date statistics due to ‘data lag’, yet Maxmimus appear to have no difficulty in invoicing the DWP to get their payments – I assume they do so on the basis of up to date information detailing precisely how many assessments they are carrying out?

  23. All Decent People Need to Get Out and Protest Against Universal Credit

    Call For Increase in Welfare Benefits and No Victimisation or Harassment

    Yes to Social Justice No to Slavery and Nazi Eugenics

    • overburdenddonkey

      i expect noop will be out there again on w/e protesting, defending and supporting the almost non-existent welfare state….as All Decent People Need to Get Out and Protest Against Universal Credit Call For Increase in Welfare Benefits and No Victimisation or Harassment…Yes to Social Justice No to Slavery and Nazi Eugenics….
      where was the protest this w/e just gone, or any other time for that matter, and how did they go, noop…?

  24. Labour MPS Need to Do the Decent Thing and Vote against UK Air Strikes in Syria

    Afghanistan and Iraq Suffered Enough Damage due to Western Aggression so let Syria be Sovereign.

    End Austerity Slavery End Western Establishment Warmongering in the
    Middle East

  25. Community work placements are punishment for being unemployed or sick. I know people who have been on them and they will never learn any valuable work experience, a scam to hammer those the politicians believe are worthless.

  26. Indeed there is More Need than Ever For Mass Public Protest and
    Political Lobbying to Say Defend and Restore the Welfare State
    Increase Welfare Benefits Increase the State Pension Lower the Retirement
    Age Scrap Degrading Assessments and Oppressive Sanctions

    House the Homeless and No UK Involvement in Western Warmongering
    in the Middle East or against Russia

  27. The Labour Party should Offer an Alternative to EU Enslavement Namely National Independence and Sovereignty without the Oppressive Costs of EU Membership.

    The EU did Not Save the Life of David Clapson and has done Nothing to Help the Homeless in this Country.

    Michael Foot was Right to Offer in 1983 AD Labour to Support Withdrawal from the EEC.

    Michael Foot was a Better Man than Evil Margaret Thatcher was Prime Minister

    Norway and Switzerland Survive outside EU Enslavement.

  28. Apparently 213 out of 231 Labour MPS Support Pro EU Campaign

    That is Despicable when One Considers the Misery Poverty and Oppression
    that EU Membership has Not Stopped the Death of David Clapson Nor
    the 10% MPS Pay Hike in Westminster

    That is Despicable considering the UK had a Trading Surplus prior to
    Joining the ” Common Market ” instead of a Massive Trading Deficit under
    the EU and the Costs to the UK of EU Membership which can be Better
    Spent on Public Services in the UK

  29. There is Money in the UK even if it is Wasted by Selfish Rich People
    in Auctions on So Called ” Art Pictures ” Hundreds of Thousands of
    Pounds and sometimes Millions of Pounds that can be Spent on Public
    Services

    The Present Leaves a Lot to be Desired but I Despair what the Future
    Holds unless Slavery Loving Apolitical Millions out There come out of
    the Townie Trance and Demand a Caring Society instead of this
    Nihilistic ” Every Man for Himself ” Pahlava

    2020 AD Unless Things Improve will probably Worse than Now unless
    there is a Sea Change in Political Direction and should Rightists in the
    Parliamentary Labour Party Undermine Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of
    the Labour Party then many in the Country may Conclude that the Country might as well Vote Tory as without any Effective Opposition it is a One Party Tinpot State .

    Shame on Liberal Democrats over the Tuition Fees Betrayal and Shame
    on the Rightists in the Parliamentary Labour Party for Undermining
    Jeremy Corbyn as Leader of the Opposition and Ordinary Decent People
    outside Sick of Austerity Pantomime

  30. The 1st of December Mark’s the Anniversary of the Former Slave Ship
    Sinking off Tromso Norway in 1768 AD .

    May the Evil of Slavery be Sunk in Great Britain Today

  31. This was the Fredensborg

  32. It Sank off Tromoy

  33. Should MPS Vote For UK Airstrikes against Syria how many Hopeless
    and Hungry People in the UK will it Help ?

    Answer Probably None

  34. paultheswineherd

    The Tories are doing a lot of ‘in-fighting’ – Feldman has the ‘full confidence’ of Cameron – so he will probably be gone before too long!
    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/11/30/tory-bullying-claims-must-face-independent-probe/

  35. Everything that this tory moron has been involved in has failed miserably, supposed to be saving us money by getting everyone off the sick but all he’s done is hurt many innocent people and pissed away an absolute bloody fortune with his evil, cruel, callous, cold hearted, hair brained schemes, UC is an epic failure, supposed to be set up by now but failed, was then pushed back to 2017 to spare his blushes, now they say there’s still problems with the system and now it’s going to be pushed back to 2018!
    Everything this arsewipe has been involved has turned out to be an total and utter disaster, failed as tory leader and has failed at this job, does Camoron not realise that IDS, and his idiot bitch sidekick Thickie Patel, is completely and utterly useless at his job, he is an absolute joke, he’s failed in high ranked jobs, twice, and yet he is still in this job, either he and Davey boy are very tight mates or he has something on him because his arse should’ve been fired by now, I’m pleased it’s all come tumbling around his ears, he thoroughly deserves it, he is a vile, odious, contemptable, little turd of a man who should be arrested and imprisoned for violating human rights and murder, I for one would gladly lock the door of the cell he should be inside in and throw away the key!

  36. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Spending Review: Welfare cuts rely on troubled Universal Credit

    BBC – 26th Nov 2015

    Following Chancellor George Osborne decision yesterday to scrap his tax credit cuts, one of the key ways he is going to meet his manifesto commitment of cutting £12bn from welfare spending is through Universal Credit.

    This is the government’s main welfare reform, bringing together six working age benefits into a single monthly payment.

    But it is a programme that has been beset by problems that was further delayed on Wednesday, costing money.

    The latest figures show there were 141,000 people claiming Universal Credit in October 2015.

    In November 2011, Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said a million people would be on the benefit by April 2014 and all 7.7 million households would be on it by 2017.

    The latest schedule sees Universal Credit fully rolled out by the end of 2020/21.

    Further delays

    Despite George Osborne’s confidence that Universal Credit will help deliver his savings, on Wednesday the Treasury itself said: “Universal Credit has been substantively delayed on at least three separate occasions in the past three years. The rollout schedule is now around three years later than expected.

    Read More:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34936367

  37. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    DLA has not closed down, was meant to be 2017 two late, but is now meant to close down in 2020. Same with all existing benefits. So should be somewhere around 2023 when all the old benefits close down for good. For new claims it does not apply.

  38. Groundwork is Greed

    I have had no JSA for months now because I live in a rural area with no public transport and I could not afford to run a car to attend CWP with Groundwork, so I was sanctioned, and then apparently my claim was closed for conflicting reasons (the Jobcentre saying something different from what the Benefit centre said in the official letter they sent). How ironic that GROUNDWORK, which is supposed to be an environmental charity, was involved in the penalisation of someone for not being able to afford to run an environment-polluting machine.

    • overburdenddonkey

      http://edinburghagainstpoverty.org.uk/node/68
      3hrs travel/day i think is the stipulation…

    • Groundwork expect you to go out and buy a car? Or is it because it is a rural area they already expect you to own a car? You might have (occasional) *access* to a car, but no way could anyone afford to RUN a car out of what CWP *pays*.

      CWP still have to pay “petrol money” which is shit compared to what MPs receive and anyone who claims mileage allowance receive. It doesn’t even cover the petrol never mind the other costs of running a car; insurance, tax, tyres, maintenance, repairs, and a thousand an one other things …

  39. I Notice that Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as
    Secretary of State For Work and Pensions Now has 114,906
    Signatures

    No to Universal Credit Ever it is a Disaster

    Increase Welfare Benefits

    mrmarcpc | November 30, 2015 at 3:10 pm | Reply

    Everything that this tory moron has been involved in has failed miserably, supposed to be saving us money by getting everyone off the sick but all he’s done is hurt many innocent people and pissed away an absolute bloody fortune with his evil, cruel, callous, cold hearted, hair brained schemes, UC is an epic failure, supposed to be set up by now but failed, was then pushed back to 2017 to spare his blushes, now they say there’s still problems with the system and now it’s going to be pushed back to 2018!
    Everything this arsewipe has been involved has turned out to be an total and utter disaster, failed as tory leader and has failed at this job, does Camoron not realise that IDS, and his idiot bitch sidekick Thickie Patel, is completely and utterly useless at his job, he is an absolute joke, he’s failed in high ranked jobs, twice, and yet he is still in this job, either he and Davey boy are very tight mates or he has something on him because his arse should’ve been fired by now, I’m pleased it’s all come tumbling around his ears, he thoroughly deserves it, he is a vile, odious, contemptable, little turd of a man who should be arrested and imprisoned for violating human rights and murder, I for one would gladly lock the door of the cell he should be inside in and throw away the key!

  40. HonestGeorgeOsbourne

    Here’s a tip for anyone claiming ESA. Just put on your form that you are suffering from a plethora of personality disorders, paranoid and have extremely violent tendencies. They won’t summon you for a face to face interview then!
    Don’t tell that Right Honourable Idiotic Dumb Shit that I gave you this tip.😁

  41. Indeed Utterly Tawdry it Appears

    paultheswineherd | November 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm | Reply

    The Tories are doing a lot of ‘in-fighting’ – Feldman has the ‘full confidence’ of Cameron – so he will probably be gone before too long!
    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/11/30/tory-bullying-claims-must-face-independent-probe/

  42. Universal Credit Needs to be Stopped just like Tax Breaks for Millionaires
    and Austerity Slavery

    The More who Protest the Better

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System | November 30, 2015 at 3:21 pm | Reply

    Spending Review: Welfare cuts rely on troubled Universal Credit

    BBC – 26th Nov 2015

    Following Chancellor George Osborne decision yesterday to scrap his tax credit cuts, one of the key ways he is going to meet his manifesto commitment of cutting £12bn from welfare spending is through Universal Credit.

    This is the government’s main welfare reform, bringing together six working age benefits into a single monthly payment.

    But it is a programme that has been beset by problems that was further delayed on Wednesday, costing money.

    The latest figures show there were 141,000 people claiming Universal Credit in October 2015.

    In November 2011, Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith said a million people would be on the benefit by April 2014 and all 7.7 million households would be on it by 2017.

    The latest schedule sees Universal Credit fully rolled out by the end of 2020/21.

    Further delays

    Despite George Osborne’s confidence that Universal Credit will help deliver his savings, on Wednesday the Treasury itself said: “Universal Credit has been substantively delayed on at least three separate occasions in the past three years. The rollout schedule is now around three years later than expected.

    Read More:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34936367

  43. Let the Rightists in the Parliamentary Labour Party Resign including from
    the Shadow Cabinet

    Let their Places in Parliament be taken by People who Care about the
    Poor and Vulnerable and Decent Public Services

    Increase Welfare Benefits and No to UK Airstrikes against Syria

    • Yes i agree. What Corbyn should have done is forced their hand and told them they had to vote against air strikes. Instead he caved in to pressure and gave them a free vote. Not good for anyone apart from Cameron. it bolsters his desire to beast into Syria for his very own ‘Tony Bliar Moment’ and will make the UK an even bigger target for extreme terrorists.

      • So much for the hype around Corbyn,. Huh!! What a wimp!
        We now see just how many MPs Labour really are pro tory….and always have been all along. They tried to hide it long enough, but they got found out in Scotland. Now, with Corbyn, they are no longer trying to hide it. It is atrocious. And how many other rebellious moments will this shower have?

        I wonder how all the No voters i Scotland feel, when they see UK bounced into yet another conflict, courtesy of the Labour Party.
        Daesh are truly evil, no doubt about it, but we have the French and Russians in there, and they do actually have the resources. UK has damned all, mainly thanks to Cameron. Neither does UK have the money. But when it comes to war…..money has never ever been a problem for the tories….Just look at the billions they are wasting on destroying the Social Security system…then claim it is about reducing the Benefit bill !?!
        Apart from that Cameron is as big a murdering tyrant as Assad.

        • paultheswineherd

          Gordon – He’s probably done it to look ‘good’ and ‘honest’ and not to antagonise the Blairites any further – but – it’s all too late – it cannot go on like this in the ‘Labour’ party – something has to give and my thoughts are that, before too long, it will probably become a totally ‘split’ Labour party.
          They may even try to force Corbyn to go, or even have a vote of no confidence in him – if he lost, he would have to stand down.
          To be replaced by who though? Andy Burnham perhaps?
          The whole thing is a nice big and fat gift on a plate to the Tories and Cameron. If there was no ‘official opposition’ before, then there certainly won’t be after all this lot is done and dusted!

          • paultheswineherd

            And yes, youre right – the Tories are slowly starving some of Britain’s population – but for a war in Syria, no problem at all – millions and millions of £ are soon set to be wasted – for what? – absolutely nothing!

        • Exactly mate. There are at least 3 or 4 countries bombing ISIS just now. The US, Russia, France and i think i read Canada as well. What is this little shithole of an island going to bring to the party that those others haven’t? Oh but i forgot what i heard that idiot Osborne say on the news tonight: ‘We don’t outsource our security to anyone’ or words to that effect.

          What crap what utter shite. All to piss away millions on bombs and armaments that are going to make not a bit of difference in the long run.

          My advice to those pricks in government, both Labour and Tory is this; Don’t get involved in other people’s friggin’ business on the other side of the world and we won’t become a target for every nutter with an axe to grind. Play the big bombing superpower and there will be consequences.

          • Raining – well said and exactly so. Recently it was reported on here that this Tory Government had sold millions of pounds of ‘toxic’ mortgage debts to a large ‘arms’ firm from America. I am wondering if the Tories get the vote to go ahead in Syria whether there could have been some secret promise made in return to buy armaments off of them.
            What other corruption and secrets are going to come out.
            And I am another one on here that is constantly asking ‘why is that psychopathic murderer Iain Duncan Smith still in his job’. He has been an abject failure in all that he has been involved with and he is also a proven liar. I am sure that something is going to come to the surface about all of this before too long. There is no pigshit that does not eventually stink!

        • Cat O' Nine Tails

          Has the Labour party not got any Whips? Jelly Corbyn should have made the Syria vote a 3-line whip. That would have soon brought these rebellious bastards into line!

          • lol at Jon multi-coloured socks Snow asking Jelly Corbyn the EXACT same question on Channel 4 News tonight: “Why don’t you impose a 3-line whip?, “Why don’t you just whip your MPs through the lobby? Of course Snow failed to acknowledge that he reads the Void as well as lifting his questions from this site.

            • It was the “3-line whip” bit that gave it away. Bet Jon had to look that up🙂 Only a Professor of Politics would have heard of a 3-line whip. “Whip” maybe but no way a 3-line one. It threw Jelly too, not just the question, but the 3-line whip lol You could see Jelly struggling to answer the question whilst trying to work out what a 3-line whip was. That is why Snow gave the Jelly the impression that it was an actual physical whip: “whipping them through the lobby” lol😀

  44. HonestGeorgeOsbourne

    We need a War so that companies like BAE Systems can still take on low paid Apprentices. Expect a Poster soon saying “Your country needs your Benefits.”

  45. paultheswineherd

    More shit is gradually emerging from the Tory bowels!
    Feldman involved in £1 million sign-off to fund Conservative campaign.
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/30/lord-feldman-conservative-campaign-bullying

  46. December 9th, noon join MHRN in Southwark to fight back against exploitation of disabled people.

    You are invited to join the Mental Health Resistance Network between noon and 3pm outside the Southwark ‘Employment Academy’ at 29 Peckham Rd, London SE5 8UA on Wednesday 9th December as we express our outrage at yet another attempt to replace mental health treatment with benefits removal and sanctions.

    http://dpac.uk.net/2015/11/december-9th-noon-join-mhrn-in-southwark-to-fight-back-against-exploitation-of-disabled-people/

  47. Off up the club again Georgios Smiffy, with your money, Ya slap head tosser.

    • Nemo – yes indeed. As the murderous cunt knocks back a few more whiskies he will knowingly sentence a few more unfortunates to suicide.
      The utter bastard, but I think that it’s going to catch up with him.

      • “THE TERRORIST ACTIVITY ON OUR SOIL WILL ERUPT JUST AS IT DID IN PARIS PAUL”

        CAMERON IS PLAYING BRAVADO WITH HUMAN LIVES……….

        HE WILL BE MADE TO LOOK THE BIGGEST CUNT UNDER THE SUN !!!

        • …………..we ain’t got enough coppers to monitor car tax disks let alone a jihadist backlash.

          • Our Trident nuclear deterrent will prove as efficient as snot in a snowstorm, the parameters of a dirty war changing with each confrontation.

            The element of surprise playing the leading role.

            • Disturb a wasps nest and be prepared to get stung.

              • “BRITAINS RETIRED GENERALS, EACH WITH A PEERAGE AND A COMFORTABLE PENSION”

                WHAT A FUCKING JOKE FOR A TINY ISLAND NATION

                1931 Promoted to field marshal on 14 February 1992.
                22 October 1987[259] Sir Charles Huxtable 1931
                2 November 1987[260] Sir Brian Kenny 1934
                1988 Sir Robert Pascoe 1932
                9 September 1988[261] Sir John Stibbon 1935
                24 April 1989 Sir Patrick Palmer 1933 1999 Promotion to full general on 24 April 1989 with seniority backdated to 15 August 1988.[262]
                27 November 1989 Sir Peter Inge 1935 Promoted to the local rank of full general (in Germany) on 27 November 1989.[263] Promoted to substantive full general on 3 January 1990.[264] Promoted to field marshal on 15 March 1994. Later Baron Inge.
                1 October 1990[265] Sir John Waters 1935
                1990 David Ramsbotham, Baron Ramsbotham 1934 Local rank awarded in 1990. Substantively promoted 1991 with seniority backdated to 1990.
                1991[266] Sir Peter de la Billière 1934
                1992 Sir John Learmont 1934 local rank 2 December 1991;[267] substantive rank 14 January with seniority 13 January 1992[268]
                1992[268] Charles Guthrie, Baron Guthrie of Craigiebank 1938 promoted to field marshal in 2012
                1992 Sir Garry Johnson 1937 acting rank 14 April 1992;[269] substantive rank 27 July with seniority 1 June 1992[270]
                1992 Sir Edward Jones 1936 2007
                1994 Sir Jeremy Blacker 1939 2005 local rank, 18 April 1994;[271] substantive, 13 June 1994[272]
                5 July 1994[273] King Harald V of Norway 1937 honorary
                1994 Sir Jeremy Mackenzie 1941 acting rank, 8 December 1994;[274] substantive 22 March 1995 with seniority 8 December 1994[275]
                17 March 1995[275] Grand Duke Jean of Luxembourg 1921 honorary
                1995 Sir Michael Rose 1940
                1996 Sir Roger Wheeler 1941
                1997 Michael Walker, Baron Walker of Aldringham 1944
                2 June 1997 Sir Alexander Harley 1941 Acting promotion on 2 June 1997.[276] Substantive promotion on 1 September 1997 with seniority of the same date.[277]
                1998[278] Sir Samuel Cowan 1941
                1998 Sir Rupert Smith 1943 Acting general from 1998. Substantive general from 1999.
                2000 Sir Mike Jackson 1944
                6 January 2003[279] Sir Timothy Granville-Chapman 1947
                2004 Sir John Reith 1948 Substantive promotion to general on 1 October 2004.[280]
                1 January 2005[281] Sir Kevin O’Donoghue 1947 Previously local general (date unknown)
                2005 Richard Dannatt, Baron Dannatt 1950
                2006 Prince Charles, Prince of Wales 1948 promoted to field marshal in 2012
                23 August 2006[282] Sir Redmond Watt 1950
                2008 Sir David Richards 1952
                2009 Sir Nick Houghton 1954
                2009 Sir Peter Wall 1955
                1 October 2010[283] Sir Nick Parker 1954
                4 March 2011[284] Sir Richard Shirreff 1955
                5 September 2014[285] Sir Nicolas Carter 1959
                See also

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  ……………….and the only fucker that caused a stir was GENERAL STRKE.

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  “Note Prince Charles is a fully blown General”…………….

                  He has so many medals he cannot stand upright. The nearest he has been to a battle zone is planting a tree or shaking hands……….

                • I think its a little more than ‘comfortable’ Geoff.
                  It is likely it is so much money one can only wonder what somebody of senior years would do with it all, though I suspect some of them are not nearly as senior as we might think.

                • New Ultimate Force Knobhead Police Interceptors on High Octance Driving Evos and Rally Spec Imprezzas

                  Funny how they use the word “substantive”. Only the other day we heard the “Police Interceptors” refer to a “substantive driving licence”. The Liverpudian doing the voice-over commentary said: “Substantive Driving Licence is Police Interceptor speak for Full Driving Licence”. Of course the suspect as usual didn’t have a licence, no insurance, was disqualified, was still at primary school….😀

              • overburdenddonkey

                it’s us who’re being stung though, geoff….

            • The rich would love to get rid of nuclear weapons then they could make even more cash setting off more and more conventional wars, GEOFF. It’s like the days of CND – the Campaign for NUCLEAR Disarmament – CND were OK with CONVENTIONAL warfare, you know they kind of warfare where our YOUNG MEN get sent off to the killing fields. The reason CND opposed nuclear weapons was because the were “indiscriminate” and “killed women and children”. So it’s OK to kill men then?😉 It is middle-class knobheads who are most vocal in opposing nuclear weapons. What do you think would have been the consequence if Oppenheimer hadn’t invented the “bomb”? How many “conventional” wars would have been fought in Europe in the intervening time? As if the middle-class would have given a shit as YOUNG MEN from POOR families were being sent to their deaths.

          • New Ultimate Force Knobhead Police Interceptors on High Octane Driving Evos and Rally Spec Imprezzas

            Car Tax disc are a thing of the past, GEOFF. Your tax status, insurance status, if the car is registered to a qualified driving, is reported stolen, is registered to a ‘known’ criminal and lots of other ‘flags’ is flashed up on our in-car MIDAS system. We now have fancy ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition) cameras (one pointing forwards, one pointing backwards😉 ) We no need to trudge around the streets in the driving rain and biting wind to check your tax disc, GEOFF😉 Our ANPRs will do if for us🙂

          • New Ultimate Force Knobhead Police Interceptors on High Octane Driving Evos and Rally Spec Imprezzas

            And PS it is “Vehicle Excise Duty”; it depends on your vehicle emissions. “Car Tax” and “Road Tax” were a misnomer. We always laugh when an irate motorist says something like: “Those fucking cyclists don’t even pay any Road Tax”😀

            • The government looks to have lost as much as £80m of revenue as a result of its decision to scrap car tax discs a year ago. The move has also led to a doubling in the number of unlicensed vehicles on British roads.

              The Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) ended the need for drivers to display a valid tax disc in October 2014, saying that the move would save the taxpayer £10m a year by making the system more efficient. However, that decision looks to have backfired, after official figures published on Thursday showed that the exchequer has lost as much as eight times the intended saving

  48. Just came back; two punch ups in one night,both caused by STEAMING PISSED east european Labourers.Very unhappy with their lot it seems.
    Two to a room and £30 a day cash wages. Up at 5, home at 6.
    Thrown glasses, facial disfigurement, you name it.
    The result of deliberate open door labour force policies from the gov. tied to agency exploitation by fronts for the rich.

  49. Still drinking your MONEY Georgy Smiifo boy. What you got to say about that then, eh?
    SANCTION THIS;
    ‘Y’
    Up YOURS,YOU CUNT.
    Better start thinking about your life after those coppers arent around.

    • He will be swallowing a cyanide pill unless he can get another runway built at Heathrow for them to all make a quick escape from in the new ministerial plane.

      • “UK CANCER VICTIMS AND THE CONSERVATIVE CHRISTMAS PRESENT”

        Thousands of people with cancer will feel “cold and lonely” this Christmas because they do not have enough money to celebrate or heat their homes, a charity has said.

        Almost 170,000 people in the UK with cancer are unable to join in special family events such as Christmas due to a lack of cash, according to Macmillan Cancer Support.

        Its survey of almost 1,000 people living with cancer found 9% had to miss out on visiting family and friends because they could not afford it.

        Other research of more than 1,600 people who have been in touch with Macmillan found 28% were unable to adequately heat their home in winter due to money worries.

        The charity has previously found 83% people with cancer are on average £570 a month worse off as a result of their diagnosis.

        Reasons include being too ill to work, needing new clothes for a changing body shape, needing to heat the home (cancer patients are more likely to feel the cold) and extra costs such as transport to hospital appointments.

        Macmillan said the government must rethink its plan on welfare, which it said would take £30 a week away from people with cancer who are too ill to work.

        http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/nov/30/thousands-of-cancer-patients-too-poor-to-celebrate-christmas

        • …………….followed by a letter of support fron DUNKO THE CLOWN’S henchmen at the Big Top, formerely known as the DWP…….

          A Department for Work and Pensions spokesman said: “The vast majority of those with cancer will not be affected by the changes and won’t be expected to look for work, and no one already claiming employment and support allowance will be worse off under these reforms.

          “People facing a cancer diagnosis will continue to get the support they need through the benefits system.”

          • “The vast majority of those with cancer will not be affected by the changes and won’t be expected to look for work,

            …………which in turn, translated, means that a minority, who are already suffering from cancer, will be affected and will be forced into work…….

            THE EU HUMAN RIGHTS INVESTIGATORS MUST BE TURNING A BLIND EYE……

  50. Jeremy Corbyn Needs Backing and Support so the Leader of the Opposition Actually Provides some Opposition as Opposed to the Previous Leader of
    the Opposition

    Better Jeremy Corbyn than Austerity Stoogery and Austerity Slavery

    Let Rightists in the Parliamentary Labour Party Resign in Disgrace as
    They are a Utter Disgrace

  51. No to Bombing of Syria No to Islamophobia Racism and Warmongering
    which Diverts Public Attention from the Need For Social Justice in the
    United Kingdom including Increased Welfare Benefits and Housing the
    Homeless

    No to Universal Credit and No to Tax Breaks for the Rich

  52. Any MP that Could Vote for UK Airstrikes in Syria is doing this Country
    and World Peace a Grave DisService so as many People as Possible
    Need to Kick Up a Fuss about it and any Labour MP that would Vote in
    Favour apart from being a Tory Stooge like the Liberal Democrats have
    been over too many Issues from May 2010 AD to March 2015 AD Needs
    to be Made to Resign and De Selected

    No to Warmongering Yes to the Welfare State and Abolishing Slavery

  53. One Hears that there will be Protests Against Attacking Syria with UK
    AirStrikes Today

    The Country Needs Demonstrations Not this Stale Commercialmus
    Pantomime of Materialism

  54. Household bills targeted by chancellor as Labour raises fears over benefit cuts

    George Osborne and Sajid Javid want more competition to drive down prices, as Labour claims thousands could lose out due to in-work benefit cuts.

    George Osborne is to announce market reforms aimed at reducing household bills by about £470 a year, on the same day a House of Commons analysis for Labour shows thousands could be worse off by £2,500 a year because of in-work benefit cuts.

    On Monday, the chancellor and business secretary Sajid Javid will launch a plan designed to help people pay less for their water, banking, broadband, legal services, medicines, dental treatment, school uniforms, energy and car insurance

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/30/george-osborne-market-reforms-cutting-household-bills

    • …………and the expected words of wisdom from the government department that kills at will, the DWP………

      However, the Treasury and the Department for Work and Pensions hit back at the independent studies, saying it was “completely misleading” to suggest families would lose money, because the universal credit rates will only apply to new claimants.

      • “EARN £100 AND YOU CAN KEEP £35 OR LESS”

        ……..THE FOOLS GUIDE TO DESTITUTION,

        As the amount of Universal credit is dependant on many other things, and not just the number
        of hours worked or level of earnings, we can not compare the circumstances as you ask in
        your example.
        In simple terms, this means that 35 pence in every pound earned would be kept: claimants are
        £35 better off for every extra £100 of net earnings.
        Claimants in receipt of large amounts of housing support receive a higher award of Universal
        Credit than those with low or no housing support. In order to address this and target resources
        fairly, claimants who receive no support with their housing costs are allowed to keep more of
        their earnings without loss of benefits. This is done by setting higher work allowances in these
        circumstances.
        The taper is the rate at which benefit is reduced to take account of earnings. Universal Credit
        has a single taper rate of 65 per cent.
        Universal Credit offers better incentives to progress in work:

        as the single taper rate will ensure that Universal Credit reduces gradually as a
        claimant’s earnings increase; and

        claimants will no longer need to move between the tax credit and benefits
        systems simply because their hours and earnings change.
        If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number
        above.
        Yours sincerely,

        DWP Strategy FoI Team

  55. ** Off-topic*

    I thought I would pass on this latest scam doing the rounds on Outlook. I have been receiving daily phishing scams (for weeks now) from these wankers based in America – and these scam e-mails are offering me tyre coupon offers.

    For starters I have never even signed up to these fake offers nor ever signed to their mailng lists, so some fucked-up hamburger eating fat yank at their organisation is wearing my patience thin now by sending me complete scam every day.

    info@emarket.work

    Don’t contact them direct on their own email website link (as posted here) as it is a phishing scam that will bombarde anyone with endless scams. The Trafficlight add-on on my Firefox has marked them up as a phishing warning when I tried to check out that web link.

  56. Fuck the Salvation Army

    The Salvation Army have got their “Christmas Appeal” up and running: Text CUNT to something or other to give these bastards ££ 19 knicker of your hard-earned dosh – don’t think so!

    • paultheswineherd

      Fuck the Salvation Army – The Salvation Army and all of the other main charity cunts are up and running their ‘Appeals’ to get the unwary and stupid to pay £2 to £10 per month. Yes, hold onto your hard earned money – they specialize in getting people to feel guilty and then they laugh at them as they take it and their CEO’s get an even bigger mansion and heated swimming pool. They are nothing short of legalised scammers – and then they also have the gall to use slave labour in the form of ‘workfare’ to ‘run’ their shabby charity shops.
      Look out for even more ‘Appeals’ now if we also go into Syria!

  57. This is an example of the over privileged knobheads whom George Obsorne’s “Help to Buy’ Scheme is ‘helping’. Poor people have to make do with “‘Help’ to Work”.

    Middle-class knobheads get free Government cash to buy huge mansion in Surrey

    • “We both grew up in detached homes. It’s hard to explain without sounding like a huge snob. We were just used to having our own space.” You don’t say!

    • They must think we are fucking stupid, well we are, but, we all know that is the Bank of Mum and Dad who bankrolled this scam. Wonder what Mummy and Daddy do to earn a living? And I bet they have a huge fucking property ‘portfolio’.

    • This is where your hard-earned taxes are going when you are stood on your feet working 12 hour shifts seven days a week gutting chickens just so you can put a stale crust on the table to feed your hungry kids.

    • And bet this fucking knobheads daddy owns a fucking huge chain of fucking low-life estate agents or some such shite!

  58. When did I say that.

    Positive affect as coercive strategy: conditionality, activation and the role of psychology in UK government workfare programmes.

    Social media are a primary source of personal accounts of the experience of psychological coercion; Twitter Facebook, the comments section of online articles and blog platforms represent some of the few opportunities for claimants to speak out about the content of mandatory training courses, psychological ‘referrals’, receiving daily ‘positive’ emails and the prevalence of positive psychology ‘messaging’ by Jobcentres and welfare-to-work subcontractors. Boycott Workfare also receives personal testimonies via email and the ‘name and shame’ forms submitted to the website (identifying business and charity users of workfare schemes). We deal with these forms of personal document in the course of our activities with Boycott Workfare; they can be made public where permission has been granted from the person involved. We have also sought permission before citing experiences detailed in blogs and other social media accounts. The ephemeral nature of social media, the use of pseudonyms, claimants’ fears of sanctions and retribution if identified and the painful nature of many of the experiences described raise a number of difficulties in accessing, collecting and selecting these data. Addressing these challenges is an important future research agenda for the medical humanities and forms part of a project on workfare at the Wellcome Trust.

    http://mh.bmj.com/content/41/1/40.full

  59. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – you comment to me this morning is absolutely correct – they will rue the day should they ever go into Syria – that could really open up a load of terror incidents on British soil.

    Here are a few more news stories and one video.
    (With the latter, it should be noted that one needs a stack of money to be able to afford enough solar panels to run your home electrics in the first place!)
    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/12/01/bullied-tory-activists-father-calls-for-party-lord-feldman-to-quit/
    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/12/01/more-households-not-paying-their-water-bills-ofwat-says/
    http://www.aol.co.uk/video/fuel-poverty–the-cold-reality-of-one-womans-life-519290679

    • “THE BBC, A PUBLICLY FUNDED COMPANY, HIDE LORD ALAN SUGAR’S WAGES”

      Could you please outline the budgeted, detailed costs associated with the making of ‘The
      Apprentice’ series for 2015, and subsequent earnings made by and relating to any enterprise
      representing Lord Sugar in the making of the program and any spin off programs eg. ‘The
      Apprentice -you’re fired’,also series 2015. Thank you.

      The information you have requested is excluded from the Act because it is held for the purposes
      of ‘journalism, art or literature.’ The BBC is therefore not obliged to provide this information to
      you and will not be doing so on this occasion.

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/300768/response/739073/attach/html/3/RFI20151855%20Final.pdf.html

      …………………WE SHOULD KNOW HOW OUR MONEY IS BEING SPENT.

      REFUSE TO PAY YOUR LICENSE FEES

  60. paultheswineherd

    sorry – it looks like that aol may have taken off the first link!?

  61. “A TRIBUTE TO THOSE THE DWP KILLED, THE POOR, THE WEAK AND THE DISABLED”
    ……….Shame on the scum who parade as the judiciary who are complicit in the murders…….

      • “DWP BULLYING OF THE DISABLED ESCALATES”

        Insane as it may seem, the Department for Work and Pensions is actively pursuing people with long-term illnesses, apparently in order to make them increasingly anxious and thereby worsen their health.

        This will not be news to anybody who is familiar with the benefit system for the sick and disabled. All you others, take note.

        On Monday, Mrs Mike received a letter from the DWP. It said:

        “Notification of Customer Compliance Visit

        “We will be calling at your home.

        “A customer compliance officer … will be visiting you at your home on Thursday 3rd December 2015… It is essential that you are available for this visit and provide the documents requested in this letter. This interview has been arranged because your circumstances may have changed and we need to ensure your payments are correct.

        “When you claimed benefit you agreed to tell us immediately if the circumstances relating to your benefit entitlement changed.

        “What will happen if we do not hear from you?

        “If you fail to be available for this visit and do not contact me, your entitlement to benefit may be in doubt and your payments will be stopped.

        “If there has been an unreported change in your circumstances then any overpayment will have to be paid back. Further, you may be liable for financial penalties.”

        And then there’s a list of documents the ‘customer compliance officer’ wanted to see – ID, bank/pensions/earnings details.

        http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/12/01/my-bid-to-foil-dwp-persecution-of-people-in-the-esa-support-group/

        • “SEND THE DWP A CEASE AND DESIST LETTER”

          “This letter has caused me considerable distress and has exacerbated my illness. Should the DWP persist in sending me further letters of a similar nature I can only conclude that it does so knowing that it will cause me alarm or distress. Such actions are a criminal offence under section 2 of the Protection from Harassment Act 1997 and I retain the right to make a criminal complaint to the police.

          “As the DWP is acting contrary to the Welfare Reform Act 2012, please regard this letter as notification to cease and desist all such activities immediately.

          “I will not be accepting the customer compliance visit and in doing so I will not be placing my entitlement to ESA at risk. Any suggestion by the DWP to the contrary will be considered harassment.

          “I remind the DWP that I will continue to comply with all lawful requirements in respect of my ongoing claim for ESA.”

        • But GEOFF a lot of claimants on disability benefits are in receipt of ~ £300 a week. What kind of salary would you need to have £300 a week left over after you have paid your rent/mortgage, and that doesn’t count ‘in-work’ expenses. It is also obvious to anyone (DWP) conclude to suspect that this group of claimants have more than a few ££ss tucked away. It is this group of claimant you often see in the media being caught with £thousands tucked away in an ISA. That is exactly why the DWP go after this group.

          Same goes for ‘pensioners’, always pleading poverty and giving the impression that all they can afford is value custard creams and can’t afford to turn the heating on. Until they ‘are gone’ and it is discovered that they have £thousands tucked away. It is also easier for older people to squirrel money away since they don’t have the same expenses as younger people.

      • He is as bad as the South African Ian Smith!

  62. Bollocks To Workfare

    Ive been kicked off of CWP before I even started, but have been referred to some other bollocks instead called Pinnacle People , an 8 week course that includes à 6 weeks unpaid work placement. How the fuck do I get out of it? If I get sent on any placement I’ll try getting sacked on the first day, I’ll make a bollocks of everything & try create as much havoc as possible. But ideally I want to avoid going at all.

    • Bollocks to Workfare

      ‘Pinnacle People’ sounds like a right load of wank, does anybody have any experience of these tossers?

  63. paultheswineherd

    Bollocks To Workfare – I have looked them up – looks like the usual load of trash who ‘take money from the Government’ – ’employs’ slave labour lackeys – takes the money, gets rid of the ‘trainee’ and then gets another person to do the same for another tranch of dosh!
    Same thing that happened to me very many years ago – try to get out of it if you can! Here’s the website for you to have a look at.
    http://www.pinnaclepeople.co.uk/

  64. paultheswineherd

    P.S. I have seen it said on here that legally, there are only two signatures that are required, one is your original jobseeker claim and the other is the fortnightly signing on one.
    For a ‘workfare’ company etc it seems that you do not have to sign anything – but also make it clear that you are not ‘refusing’ to do the workfare placement! Maybe someone will correct me if any of this is incorrect.

  65. Succesive governments, via the DHSS, DSS, and DWP, have made my life a misery for 35 years, crushed my hopes, ended my dreams and destroyed my Soul. First it was YOPS in 1981, then CEP in 83, Restart in the 90s followed by Training For Work, then came New Deal in the 2000s (5 fucking times), followed by the Work Programme and MWA, now It’s CWP and fucking unpaid work placements. There is no end to this shit and I’ll be glad when I’m dead. 13 more years to go to Retirement, if I make it.

    • don’t know how you stuck it 8 years was enough for me. That’s as long as I’ve been alive 35 years. you deserve a medal and a cash prize or compensation for your ills, no one should be left without a life for so long, it amounts to torture.

  66. Not to mention the cumulative devastating effect of permanently existing in longterm grinding poverty whilst constantly under threat of Sanctions, all of which has a debilitating effect on health. Its time JSA was abolished & replaced with an unconditional guaranteed citizens basic income.

  67. This is a long post, but I hope you can read through and enjoy the insanity of the situation from JCP.

    I was unfamiliar with the Community Work Programme scheme, but when I was referred to Seetec I took it as a sign to get invaluable experience in a career change I’d been looking in to (admittedly not many hours per week) and spoke to my Seetec adviser about my existing training and past experience.

    The new role in question. Early Years practitioner in a nursery setting. I have already completed a level 1 certificate in caring for children, which is aimed at baby sitters and others caring for their own children. It’s fully class room based so there was no placement.

    So from Seetec I was referred to a second company who would be charged with finding me a placement within my area of choices. A couple of weeks and I get an interview and blow them away with my focus and level of back ground research – I’ve read the EYFS paper work and focused forums. The nursery immediately starts the enhanced DBS process which I complete at home that evening and it’s only a matter of waiting for the certificate to come through.

    It comes through about fourteen days later on a Tuesday and I take it to the nursery the next day. I start and was given a shirt so I’d be more visible as someone who should be there. The first day was brilliant and I went home with a smile on my face and my muscles aching. The next day, after waking up early and excited to get back to the nursery went well, until the dinner time when I receive a message to speak to the second company.

    This is when it all goes wrong. The adviser at Job Center Plus has pulled me off the placement with – at the time – no reason given. I find out by making a few phone calls, that it relates to my “lack of experience, background check and qualification”. I realize I’m not getting the answers I need to understand what’s going on as I have a qualification, the nursery has conducted the enhanced BDS check and the placement will give me the experience I’m looking for. I keep the nursery in the loop and why I won’t be attending. They’re confused, they’ve done the back ground checks, seen my qualification certificates and as an unqualified volunteer I’m not left unsupervised and they’ve had people before who has gone on to gain paid employment in the same sector because of the experience and references they’ve been able and happy to provide.

    I go to see my adviser without an appointment and get pretty much fobbed off but a meeting is made on the Monday to go through “stuff”. What he doesn’t explain, but asks me to bring in the DBS form and certificates of qualifications. The Monday meeting involves answering questions about my CV and previous experience and references available. I ask the question “What does this have to do with the placement?” and it boils down to someone him or someone else deciding to take upon themselves a background check on me, despite the nursery having a duty of care to do it themselves having already done it anyway. Despite this a meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to and I quote “explain the gaps in my CV” – I update my CV to include the months of employment and provide a copy of both the general and Early Years Education focused. But he also wants me to provide reference details. I can provide one reference, which may or may not be enough, we shall see. This leads to a third meeting in a span of five days, although I’m not certain why as I will be giving him the details of my referee tomorrow and he doesn’t believe I’ll get put on the placement till the end of next week.

    I’ve lodged a complaint with the job center and with my local MP as it’s looking more and more like gender discrimination. No one else currently on the CWP that I have asked has an adviser requesting references. Seetec nor the second company has asked for references or to see the certificates.

    Thanks for reading my not little rant, I just want people to be aware that there are people that the CWP would be a benefit to some people, but the JCP fails to communicate or be consistent with their partner companies as to what is required. The Job Center has had a month while I was first put on the CWP to ask for these details, but because they decided to wait it has resulted in an overly long delay in starting properly. Instead of having six months of experience to show on my CV I’ll have five months or less.

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  69. I’ve been referred to CWP repeatedly five times during the last two months. It should be crystal clear to my JCP advisor that I’m not interested in attending, so why refer me time and time again? It’s a last ditch attempt to get some sanction mileage out of CWP before it is scrapped in March 2016.

    If you are referred to CWP or a work scheme without a mandate a (MAN) then don’t go – the pricks haven’t got a leg to stand on. The current CWP’s are not written in law, they are pilot schemes aimed at people who have been unemployed for 2 years or more. Section 17 of the Jobseeker’s Act 1995 and Section 8a of the Jobseekers Allowance Regulations 2013 state that you must be between 16 and 24, or only referred if you have been subject to a learning difficulty assessment. Makes you wonder why they bother quoting these Acts at all… it’s detrimental to their argument.

    JCP and the DWP are just trying their luck with people who would rather follow their suggestions instead of going to the trouble of fighting the sanctions the JCP, DWP and their decision making DLDM’s invariably impose through the tribunal service.

    These neo-nazi’s can only win if you let them pull the wool over your eyes. They depend on people being ignorant of the law and their own rights. They can go and fuck themselves.

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