Oh Ros, You’re An Embarrassment We Can’t Ignore #DontIgnoreIt

WorkieThe last time the DWP used the word workie they were encouraging young people to tweet pictures of themselves whilst they were being exploited on unpaid work experience schemes. It was a predictable disaster that was roundly ignored by the nation’s youth.  Now they have decided that a Workie is actually a giant multi-coloured monster like the one pictured.  Really.

This is Pension Minster Ros Altmann’s big idea to encourage small employers to sign up their staff to Workplace Pensions.  The Workie will debut on prime time televion tonight in a series of ads accompanied by a twitter campaign using the hashtag #DontIgnoreIt.

It is astonishing that the (unelected) Pension’s Minister should attempt to treat the public like small chldren. This is what the government thinks of normal people.  That we are fucking idiots who can be persuaded to do as we’re told by a giant furry kid’s TV character.  At a time of so-called austerity latte slurping wankers at some advertising agency have been paid real money for this embarrassment.  Our money.  £8.5 million pounds of it.  According to a gushing DWP press release Ros Altmann was personally involved in designing the character.  You can tell. It’s shit.

There are lots of things currently taking place that shouldn’t be ignored, besides workplace pensions.  Like Ros Altmann’s idea that we should work until we die.  Or record street homelessness.  Or the growing number of deaths linked to welfare reforms.  This bungled pensions campaign is a good chance to let everybody know just how far the chaos and carnage dealt out by the DWP has gone.  #DontIgnoreIt

Disabled People Against Cuts are also calling on people to tweet using the hashtag #PMQs to highlight the human rights violations of disabled people: http://dftr.org.uk/Songbird.php?TweetFile=PMQs

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621 responses to “Oh Ros, You’re An Embarrassment We Can’t Ignore #DontIgnoreIt

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Dangerous stalking people in parks.

      • The character that would express the mantra of the DWP would be a balding clown dressed in an SS stormtroopers tunic with the deaths head totenkopf inignia of the worlds most evil regime emblazoned on the lapels.

        The public would easily engage with this figure, better known as “DUNKO THE CLOWN”, for he and his despicable departments Eugenics led attacks on the poorest, most vulnerable and disabled……………..

        Each and every time i watch any advertising by the DWP, it reminds me of the trail of thousands of dead bodies left in their wake.

        “PUTTING ICING ON A CORPSE DOES NOT MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE”

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          Neighbours told not to be alarmed if they see actors dressed as armed Nazi stormtroopers at Highgate Cemetery

          Camden New Journal – 14th Oct 2015

          DON’T be alarmed by the wails of distress coming from beyond the walls of Highgate Cemetery, and do not be afraid if Nazi stormtroopers are spotted heading into the historic graveyard.

          This is the message from BBC film producers preparing to bring their cameras to the cemetery to shoot a drama which imagines what might have happened if the Germans had won the Battle of Britain during World War II.

          Read More:
          http://www.camdennewjournal.com/hcfilm

          • why on Earth would anyone want to imagine that? Be thank they didn’t win and put an end to it, all this imaging these awful sufferings will not bring anything positive to the sufferings they did cause when they were in power.

            • Alas…..the NEW NAZIS are in charge in UK right now. If Cameron was in power in the 1930s, he would’ve had Hitler over for tea at Downing Street, and dinner with the King a few blocks up the street. He would be gushing with praise at the newly revitalized German economy. Human Rights wouldn’t get a mention. After all, The tories are doing exactly what Hitler was doing in the 1930s.
              We wonder when it will be a major problem, all these trade deals with China when China starts pushing its weight around, like when they take over a few wee islands out there, etc. What will Cameron do and say then?

          • Every Aldi Helps... Put Tesco Out Of Business

            … had won the Battle of Britain during World War II… we would all be eating Moser Roth chocolate🙂 … oops, we already do😀 And very tasty too is Moser Roth*

            * other chocolate brands are available

  1. And she cares not one hoot about what’s happening to women born in1950s whose pensions are being stolen by her government.

    • overburdenddonkey

      yes and men as well, losing PCG and age related jsa/esa entitlement, (pension age escalator) who have also had to work 5 more yrs for theirs…imo state pension age should be 60…

  2. They’ve been watching too many of those adverts for car insurance that promise customers a fucking toy if they sign up. Presumably, the Daily Mail readers fall for such infantile shit.

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    £5bn Work Programme – launched in 2011

  4. Can someone tell me what age group this is aimed at? My nephew aged 8 likes it. My cousins aged over 16 said “that’s for kids”, I can guess how the rest of the adult population will treat this rubbish….

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    Gibberish and gobbledygook

  6. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Confidence trick

    A confidence trick (synonyms include confidence game, confidence scheme, scam and stratagem) is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first gaining their confidence, used in the classical sense of trust. Confidence tricks exploit characteristics of the human psyche such as dishonesty, honesty, vanity, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, naïveté and greed.

    Vulnerability to confidence tricks

    Confidence tricks exploit typical human characteristics such as greed, dishonesty, vanity, opportunism, lust, compassion, credulity, irresponsibility, desperation, and naïvety. As such, there is no consistent profile of a confidence trick victim; the common factor is simply that the victim relies on the good faith of the con artist. Victims of investment scams tend to show an incautious level of greed and gullibility, and many con artists target the elderly, but even alert and educated people may be taken in by other forms of a confidence trick.[6]

    Accomplices, also known as shills, help manipulate the mark into accepting the perpetrator’s plan. In a traditional confidence trick, the mark is led to believe that he will be able to win money or some other prize by doing some task. The accomplices may pretend to be strangers who have benefited from performing the task in the past.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confidence_trick

  7. Another Fine Mess

    I’m suspecting that Workie is made up, and not a real person,🙂 why didn’t they just call it Ros ?

    Minor errs. there their, Pension’s Pensions, alling calling.

  8. What exactly is a Workplace Pension, Johnny Void? I assume it’s a new Workfare for pensioners, but how does it work? Surely, pensioners can’t get sanctioned. So what’s the catch? Are they just meant to volunteer? What happens if they don’t?

    So many questions about this Loch Ness Monster… I mean, workie.

  9. Fuck me the magic mushrooms and cocaine must have been working overtime.What a trip the ministers must have had to come up with this character!

  10. Another Fine Mess

    Oh dear.
    Veteran Labour MP and former minister Michael Meacher has died after a short illness. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34592381

  11. It makes my Blood Boil when I see too Many in an Oblivious Trance in
    their Tiny Little Worlds

  12. I Notice that More People could be Affected besides those at Redcar at
    Scunthorpe and in Lanarkshire

    Do they become Scroungers Now ? Whilst MPS in the Westminster
    Parliament are on the Expenses Gravytrain

    It is Shocking how Braindead to be so Brainwashed too many in the
    South East of England which is Sadly a Tory Scumhold Are

  13. From the DWP website:

    ‘The humorous ads come with a serious message.’

    I see nothing funny about Workie. It’s distinctly creepy.

  14. Notice that Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as Secretary
    of State for Work and Pensions Now has at Least 112,545 Signatures

    The Resignation of some other Tory Secretaries and Rightists in the
    Labour Party is in Order as Well

  15. ‘Lazy workers’ blamed for Griffin Place Communications job losses😉

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-34595293

  16. overburdenddonkey

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27441009
    ‘It claims that if a 30-year-old worker replaced a takeaway with a home-cooked meal at least once a week, they could save £12 a week….’ + the cost of the home cooked meal…so instead of spending £84+/wk on takeaways get a pension instead….hmmm…!? food for thought there folks..
    all one needs now is a fucking job, and a job for life paying £25000/yr +
    support a UBI…

    • Another Fine Mess

      Ignoring the fact that at work and at home are two separate places, do they really think the plebs spend £16 a day at lunchtime?

    • OBD
      ‘It claims that if a 30-year-old worker replaced a takeaway with a home-cooked meal at least once a week, they could save £12 a week….’ + the cost of the home cooked meal…so instead of spending £84+/wk on takeaways get a pension instead..’
      😉

      • rocket science😉

        • overburdenddonkey

          i read it the worker was/is spending £12/day on takeaways…so whats your point..? i’ve not had a takeaway in yrs, simply can’t afford them….

          • overburdenddonkey

            spending £12/day on takeaways @ home…then there’s breakfast, snacks and food @ work on top..

          • what’s a takeaway?

            • what’s a home cooked meal?

              i haven’t cooked for myself since july 2012, when i was illegally sanctioned.

              • That’s truly awful, but unsurprisingly commonplace for this government. I hope it ends soon and we will all have the help and rights that we need.

                • /we eat just a meal a day and it is borderline quality have a bit of variety, there isn’t much of it and some days we get breakfast, but I have often learned to live without breakfast as far as I remember into my childhood. Sometimes we eat the same thing and it is monotonous, but then the food here is very cheap. it isn’t right though, no way for human beings to eat, then you think about all that food that gets thrown into landfill, surely we can all eat better it everyone in the world had ideals of the people we find in this blog. Surely we can run a nicer, caring world between us all. But I can go on some days without eating anything at all and never feel hungry, suppose over the years my body has been accustomed to being starved.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ‘But I can go on some days without eating anything at all and never feel hungry, suppose over the years my body has been accustomed to being starved.’ ditto…

                • I transferred from JSA to ESA the day my WP provider threatened me with a second sanction if I didn’t sign their documents, which I didn’t have to sign by law. (Fortunately, I already had an appointment at my GP’s for that day, whereupon I just broke down). I didn’t sign the WP documents, and I have a very long history of mental illness, very much helped now by tablets – plus two other disabilities.

                  I have been fighting the sanction since 2012 through the Parliamentary Ombudsman process, even though I didn’t actually lose any monies.

                  Since I was illegally sanctioned, I have had anhedonia. This means loss of pleasure.

                  Not that cooking used to be huge pleasure, so for that reason I used to spend a day cooking proper food like soup, cheese scones etc and then freeze them in portions. (The 20-year-old freezer is more like ‘A Day of the Triffids on Ice’ but still functions.)

                  Also, since I was illegally sanctioned, I have stopped walking every day for pleasure and vitality, and ironically, with that, out went my volunteering (beach cleaning and disposal).

                  My doctor says that I’m ‘blunted’, and I sleep loads. I’m lucky to be on ESA, so I can afford food, it’s just there’s no appetite.

                  However, I’m still alive, there’s only 4 and a half years to go, and my figure’s good.

                • Sian I was like that when they said fit for work with no barriers, they said we know you are disabled but we do not believe if affects the work you can do, or something like that. So they have put me up their with strong and healthy people who have no disabilities. So my support is the same as a healthy person, so they wanted me to do C.v.s and interview techniques (yet again) and at first had me applying for anything, including a chemist, would you believe. And the universal job shite, sorry site recommended I apply for teaching positions, which is strange as I have never had teacher training or even have a degree. Anyway for a while I didn’t want to do anything, not all. But now I think that is where those Tories want you, they want to destroy your spirit and your life and condemn you from any pleasure, because if you don’t work, can’t find work or can’t work, then they believe you to be nothing. But I am not nothing and neither are you Sian, don’t let them get to you, don’t let them spoil any more of your life. Don’t let them win, they are not human, they are not anything that resembles life, but you are human and are way better than them and you do not need money, or fancy qualifications or live in a fancy house to be better than them. Never let them have your self-respect or confidence, never let them put you down again.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  sian
                  we all need enough income and stopping them getting @ one comes over time fighting for income rights certainly empowers one and that process…

                • Professor of Human Nutrition

                  Reducing calorific intake is theoretically one way of increasing your life span; theoretically because this behaviour has been observed in cells under laboratory conditions.

                  Going the way of Jamie Oliver, however, is certainly not going to increase your lifespan. Jamie has recently been presenting TV programmes on the connection between sugar intake and type 2 diabetes; looking at Mr Oliver it would be surprising if he himself didn’t already have this condition or be in the pre-stages.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  prof
                  and just WHAT is the connection between sugar intake and T2D, which i suffer from btw…?

                • No matter how much we ‘earn’, how fancy our house/car/yacht, whatever silly title we have… at the end of the day we all drop our pants on the toilet…😀😀

              • overburdenddonkey

                just shows what a dream world the bbc et al are living in…i’ve on a staple of mixed nuts, raisins in a jam jar and water myself for yrs, in the past….

              • What utter c*nts, how long are you sanctioned for?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  some people are so ill and/or disadvantaged that that can’t find their voice or support to ask for help…which is why i see all these foi and this death stats as so much nonsense…
                  where are the grassroots support groups…??? appeal appeal appeal…

              • overburdenddonkey

                + the costs of the home cooked meal…. yes sian i know it’s extremely difficult to talk about esp when blamer/concern trolls are around…

                • I think my body as become accustomed to Trolls too OBD😀 seen enough of them in my time, but then I must go looking for trouble to read the papers.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  yeah to read the papers and the comments of some you’d think we’re living in pleasantville, utopia, and paradise all rolled into one…

        • The DWP’s own doctor said i could not pepare or cook a meal myself but after my Atos report i am now fit for work.
          The £33.60p that i receive each week would buy me three takeaways but i waste it on absorbent incontinence pads, electric and out of date cream crackers……………

          • overburdenddonkey

            i would have felt like a millionaire with £33.60/wk coming in, @ one point geoff….

            • we were once living off £10 a week for a family of five, it were beans and mash everyday, or tomato sauce butties but there was jam as well. Its a poor diet for a child but there you go.

              • overburdenddonkey

                sage and onion stuffing as a treat, wild garlic, nettles, pig nuts and the odd donated ‘frying tom’ stale bread and lettuce…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  http://paulkirtley.co.uk/2011/conopodium-majus-pignut-forage/ and road kill, and takeaway food from bins…and the odd bit of freegan..

                • sage and onion was good when you make it from scratch makes a meal that, we did have spaghetti but not so often doesn’t have as much nutritional value as beans, stale bread yes, but ok toasted, sometimes I spotted green stops of mould on it, but ate it anyway, well round the green spots.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  yep and spend most of the day working out where the next meal was coming from, a ‘relaxing’ day or so off meant not eating, or fretting about it and hoping to find some change on the pavement or some food to eat…
                  all to keep one’s mind occupied away from feeling hungry or deprived, to keep spirits up…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  but that way of life couldn’t go on…and i had a lucky break that allowed me time and the energy to fight for my rights… appeal appeal appeal…

                • You forgot about, poking all the stones in of the holes in your shoes, made them more water proof, slightly. that took you mind off hunger, it was hell when you went to bed, nothing to take your mind off it then, apparently these are the best days of your life. But then we did have rats some of the time, that took my mind off things for a bit.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  don’t even get me started on shoes stories maria.. but there are still many who are suffering almost unseen out there…

                • Nettle tea, roast roadkill and a bath in a stream – grieving man forsakes modern life to fill the void left by his wife

                  http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/nettle-tea-roast-roadkill-bath-10280860

                • I know I was reminiscing about old times, but as you say after all the time we have been on this Earth and there is still the poor and we have the rich, still not interested in doing a thing about it, I wish people could think of everyone, instead of just a few elite at the top.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  yeah sain …dandelion root is good for coffee, a good herb in general packed with nutrients… you get know loads of things like that, willow bark for headaches, yarrow, for cuts used by the romans, birch sap, etc etc… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandelion_coffee corralling people is the govts aim, pay yer tithe toll commoner… i eventually found space and pleasure in the simple things of life, i recovered my soul…

                • apparently plantain is a good all round cure all, but I don’t trust my hunter gatherer skills, really I’m afraid I might poison someone.

              • We used to have gravy on bread😦

                • Bread, so many poor diets, this country should hang it’s head in shame that some people are still eating so poorly.

    • How many people can afford takeaway nowadays? I couldn’t afford to spend 12£ on one and I’m working!!
      I’m pretty sure the unemployed and sick couldn’t afford it either!!
      They can barely eat and some are reliant on food banks

  17. Maybe Ms Altman thinks we’d all love to see her little furry friend. I wouldn’t.

  18. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    NEWS FLASH:

    The Govenrment has banned food & drink on the Work Fare !!! You are not allowed to bring in a packed lunch.

    £2 a cup of coffee 3 times a day = £6 a day = £30 a week on cups of coffee. Now for the sandwiches. = Getting on for £80 a week just on packed lunch at the coporations model to fit in with Merlin Logic Systems.

  19. The even creepier aspect to the Workplace Pension is that once you reach an age where it can be paid, the whole amount will be eaten up by administration fees. Private Eye did a small piece on this several months ago.

    Workplace Pension, with or without the mutli-coloured furry thing, is a scam, where chunks of your wages are taken and you never get them back. A bit like National Insurance.

  20. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    #twittersclosingdown

  21. Happened to catch a few moments of PMQs today – to find Corbyn asking about the UNs investigation about the abuse and murder of disabled people in the UK. Cameron sneered, looks incredibly like he’s shitting himself, and then tells all how wonderful life is being disabled in Britain – millions queueing up for a job and thoroughly enjoying life under a tory government!!. If ever there was a defining moment when Cameron was LYING it was then – the fucking pig-shagging, venal, scumbag is a FUCKING LYING CUNT – GUILTY AS CHARGED< SEND HIM DOWN

  22. How much more money is IDS going to waste on his own vanity projects? and how many more people will have to hungry for it as consequences?
    The money is there, they just don’t want to spend it on people the deem to be at the bottom of society.

  23. Maria Josephine

    Please tell me that isn’t Tim Key doing the voiceover…

  24. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    False Claims & very dangerous Ad like 1970s BBC tv.

  25. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The cabinet are so despirate that they are now calling the Tory voters terrorist to the state.

  26. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Fast tracking your Bill Of Rights will mean mistakes – so dave the UN report of the DWP of Human Rights Breaches will be published before you Bill Of Rights race.

  27. Increase the State Pension Reduce the Retirement Age

  28. I wonder if DreamWorks will be taking Mr Smith to court for stealing intellectual property??

    • Maria

      Short answer is Nop. Dreamworks after observing everyone take the micky out of this poor excuse of whatever will back away – who wants to be associated with such a disaster?

  29. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    PMQs live – 21 Oct 2015

  30. OT: Working Tax Credits [WTC] & Zero Hours Contracts

    hat-tip to ‏@refuted hours ago
    WTC and Zero Hours Contracts

    http://www.rightsnet.org.uk/forums/viewthread/8905/

    “tax credits are really not suited to zero hours contracts and overpayments or underpayments are likely”

    So if you’re on a Zero Hour Contract watch out.

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  32. OT: Tax Credit Comments on Guadian

    LOL’d when I saw the following:

    TEARS* “I voted Tory because i love beer and bingo. How am i going to afford either of these now!”

  33. Tweeted @melissacade68

  34. You’re right Johnny, I live in social housing and currently we are having some modernisation works going on, the company that are doing it, Seddon, have put loads of posters up all over the building, the posters have pictures of workmen in safety hats, and they are like something for primary school kids. I actually said to a neighbour in the lift, these posters say everything about how both our landlord, Salix Homes and the contractor’s Seddon, see us. these posters infantilize the 200 or so tenants; Salix and Seddon view us as children, not as adults. The posters, and there are various posters, are like something from one of those legal loan shark adverts on daytime tv… They simply show a contempt for their target audience.

  35. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Blue Peter Presenter Politics.

  36. paultheswineherd

    Well I never! – Another £8.5 million wasted by IDS and his crew on this crap. What gets me is that there are people almost starving in this shit-hole of a country – having to go to foodbanks etc.
    Where is the Taxpayer’s Alliance now I ask myself – is this not another waste of public money – using it to make a film featuring a furry coloured animal and treating the public like fools. What the fuck are these prats thinking of? ‘Welfare Reform which is saving nothing and costing even more and more. IDS who is a psychopathic, delusional madman – a Prime Minister who is an alledged ‘pig-fucker and a Chancellor of the Exchequer who couldn’t run a machine which takes 20p’s for public toilets.
    A lavish ‘dinner/banquet’ two nights running for the Chinese premier and the total scroungers who are in the form of the pampered and totally uncaring (for the poor) Windsors.
    A total shower of shite and largely a stupid flock of sheople who helped to vote the cruel uncaring Nazi bastards into power in the first place.
    However, good for Corbyn for tackling Cameron about the UN investigation in today’s PMQ’s – but I doubt that we will hear very much more about it in the press/broadcast media in the future. Most people in Britain will be totally unaware that this is currently happening!

  37. Anyone bring this rubbish up at DWP and I’ll repeat back “Wankie” everytime

  38. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

  39. Another Fine Mess

    The crazy monster in a park ad is coming on at 7:25, ….I’m still waiting.

  40. Tryweryn: Locals on the Welsh village ‘drowned’ by a reservoir

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34597653

    One of the bombers (Emyr Llew) taught me at primary school. BBC, stop giving me ideas.

  41. I really thought I was hallucinating when I saw Workie in the Mirror earlier today.

  42. MP Justin Tomlinson sent Wonga draft parliamentary report

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-34591534

  43. 17 months now since my WRAG reconsideration was submitted. do you exist Maximus?

    • overburdenddonkey

      why would you submit a reconsideration to a contractor and not direct to the dwp…?

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Once signed to Maximus you signed for life.

        • overburdenddonkey

          step
          eh….!? send esa50 to them, perhaps, then attend WCA be found fit for work, then ask dwp for reconsideration, that fails then MR that fails and then appeal to FtT

          • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

            Maximus lose all the paper work. One reason Maximus has bar coding on any of their paper work.

            • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

              Typo No Barcoding.

            • overburdenddonkey

              which is why one fills in 2 esa50’s and photocopies everything…

              • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                I have & never will fill in a ESA50 Questionaire aka bogus form. Which means because I have been put through the Maximus system without my consent or me signing it. The Terms & conditions of the ESA50 is to agree to be sanctioned within the terms & conditions. Worse comes to worse I have myself in for £800,000 disability fraud.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  fair enough, your choice.. but still doesn’t answer the question i asked of sian…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps i’d also like to know how anyone can apply or maintain SS claim without filling in and signing forms inc hardship payments…?

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  By still being contracted by the DWP & not HCP`s Maximus & Atos.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  yeah that would do it but the system doesn’t work like that…i did ask you if it does work differently though…?

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps the dwp have the power to sanction one anyway….!?

            • overburdenddonkey

              but still doesn’t answer the Q why one send a reconsideration to a contractor…

      • I did send it to the DWP. Then it was sent to Maximus?

        • overburdenddonkey

          sian
          what you had a WCA you were put in wrag, you objected to it, sent your objections to the dwp for reconsideration, they in turn sent it to the contractor 17mths ago and you’ve not heard back from anyone since…which means you’re still in the support group…?

          • ‘…you had a WCA you were put in wrag’.

            Does anyone get put straight onto Wrag after a WCA? Any stats on this?

            No OBD, at the WCA, I was found fit for work. Then I went to court (alone) to appeal this, using Regulation 29 of the ESA Regulations 2008, and they put me onto Wrag. This is what I’m appealing now, that is, to be put into the support group.

            And all this just because they’re questioning the integrity of our/their doctors.

            • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

              There is a third group called “The Grey Area”.

            • To be put into the WRAG group it can be helpful if a registered GP states, unequivocally, something to this effect: “This man/woman is not fit for work. It is unlikely that s/he will become fit for work at any time in the foreseeable future”. This can then be duly disregarded at WCA, ahead of appeal/stress/tribunal & ~ if ‘luck’ prevails(!) reclassification.

            • overburdenddonkey

              sian
              1st you implied that you had no income since 2012, then said you had, as you were now on esa so either placed in wrag or sg, but are ‘blunted’ ie no interest in life…then maximus was holding onto wrag reconsideration, which means you had submitted an appeal…so i wondered why maximus had been sent your wrag reconsideration and it hadn’t gone to the dwp…all info on esa and appealing is of interest…so you were latterly put put into wrag after evoking reg 29 (2) @ FtT and then submitted a gl24 appeal to dwp DM to be placed in/moved to sg, giving the DM 28 days to come up with this decision…but instead have been left for 17mths in wrag whilst awaiting decision on 1st reconsideration from maximus and not dwp DM, thus open to all the vagaries of wrag, and should they not uphold your appeal to be moved into sg @ 1st reconsideration move onto the next which is MR, which means no income until they’ve decided whether or not to award sg, or move onto submit appeal to FtT which i believe is paid @ assessment rate until FtT and after decision either put in sg, wrag, or found fit for work…
              yes people are put straight into wrag or sg by dwp DM
              and yes our gp’s the nhs and ourselves have decided that we’re not fit for work, so it is an insult for another org to overturn that decisions and indicative of something being very badly wrong with our health care system..

  44. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Maximus are trying to back out of the DWP contract.

  45. tell us more steppin’

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      A contradiction is predictable.

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        “Workie” The sectioned Mascot`s PR has cost £8.5 million.

        • “CRIPPLE KICKER TOMLINSON GIVES MINISTERIAL INFORMATION TO WONGA LOAN SHARKS”

          SWINDON North MP Justin Tomlinson is facing calls to stand down as a minister after he passed on a confidential report to a Wonga employee.

          The Minister for Disabled People has admitted giving a draft of a sensitive report into payday loan companies to an employee of Wonga in 2013 when he was on the Public Accounts Committee.

          The Wonga employee then made suggestions to the MP which were then added to a final copy of the report into rules surrounding the loan companies.

          Although Mr Tomlinson has admitted passing on the report and apologised, a full investigation has been launched as it is considered such a serious offence.

          • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

            Disability Hate Crime Minister Justin Tomlinson said we endorse Disability Hate Crimes. Feeling very Disability Unconfident now.

            • “WHY HAVE MINISTERS TAKEN NO ACTION?” – DAUGHTER SPEAKS OUT

              Video C4 News: Prime Minister questioned over suicide reports“The DWP has reportedly undertaken 60 investigations into suicides that occurred after benefits were withdrawn… will the Prime Minister publish these findings?”That was the question from Scottish National Party (SNP) MP Angus Robertson to David Cameron at Prime Minister’s Question time today.

              Posted by Channel 4 News on Wednesday, 21 October 2015

  46. I dont find it astonishing at all. Most people go to work a shit job for 8 hrs a day for money so pathetic its a fucking crime_When they get home they sit down before tea and watch ‘Neighbors’. They also watch ‘East Enders’, and ‘The Apprentice’ , and other such indicators as to their state of life catatonia.
    David Cameron has never actually had a ‘J.O.B.’,;
    SO WHAT THE FUCK WOULD HE KNOW ABOUT IT?
    Nothing,rest assured,is the answer.

  47. The pension and national insurance scheme is a bloody joke.
    Since the government have turned unemployment and sickness benefits into a punishing torture regime (with no refunds for people thirty years into the national insurance system I might add) I would not be at all surprised if seeing how the deal has been changed without notice people simply asked for their fucking money back.
    If you paid in to any insurance scheme and the insurer decided to re-write the cumulative payout terms you would be within your rights to cancel the contract retrospectively.Thus it is with pensions and benefits..
    I suspect the biggest reason for a clampdown on no win no fee solicitors is fear of some smart arse launching a class action against the government on behalf of short changed P.A.Y..Earners.

  48. Margaret McLaughlin

    Isn’t Ms Altman a previous campaigner against the unfairness of women’s pension age being jacked up from 60 to 66, without any ‘phasing-in’ provision for those born in the 1950’s who now face utter poverty for the next 6 years? (Well I’d like to see anyone who’d carefully planned for retirement at 60 trying to beg with an employer to let them stay on or even FIND a job at 60!). They’ve simplistically been ‘advised’ that there are Out-Of-Work benefits if they care to apply – yeah, schlepp to the Jobcentre once a fortnight to be treated like an old scrounging HagBag.

    But since Our Ros got her cushy number at the pensions dept. all we’ve had is…….the sound of silence!

    Thanks a bunch Sister………

    • overburdenddonkey

      marg
      divide and conquer the tory way, men lose out as well…imagine men and women queuing up @ 68 outside jcp to sign on..or still on 1st phase esa…no peace for the wicked…

      • So you have the absurd situation whereby women are enjoying the safety and security of a pension at 60 while guys are still having to sign on JSA, with all the attendant sanctions, workfare and risk of homelessness until age 68!? You never hear the feminists mention these blatant examples of sexism; kind of like a widow’s pension but no such thing as a widower’s pension. Incidentally if you retire at 60 you are expected to live for another 18 YEARS; retire at 65 and you are expected to live for another 18 MONTHS. Small wonder that men have a shorter life expectancy when they are stressed out and worked to death paying for women’s pensions and all their other crap!

        • overburdenddonkey

          oap
          you’re right it’s not as simple and clear cut as some make out imo 60/2 is about right for retirement age…i could also argue who the hell says we should work in any case blah blah… of 30m workforce only 8m have occupational pensions, by cause of reasons of affordability…there IS age pension age escalator… http://www.ageuk.org.uk/money-matters/pensions/changes-to-state-pension-age/
          a woman with an occupational pension can retire @ 60, but now will get no state pension @ 60, but @ least have an income which may not be much depending on length of pension inputs granted, men usually have to work till 65…SERPS will also go in 2016 replaced by a single tier pension, and will be roughly the same amount as PCG and age related esa/jsa is now…but no longer means tested unless one has not contributed 35yrs NI anything below 10yrs get nothing @ all, between 0/35yrs if one wants the full amount will need means testing…i could fill this page up with detail, to cover the inaccuracies of GLIB/SPITTAL FLECKERS statements, people would glaze over and switch off, so the GLIBBERS point dominates…

  49. David Cameron & George Osborne are having lunch with Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday at Manchester Town Hall. Apparently we were not clear enough when we told the Tories to get out of Manchester at their conference. So let’s show the the visiting dignitaries how despised Cameron & Osborne are in Manchester. And that all Human Rights abusers are not Welcome.
    Rally point: side of Central Library opposite Midland Hotel.

    • David Cameron is coming back to Manchester despite the 60,000 strong that demonstrated against the vicious cuts he is making to our public services. This time he will be hosting a dinner with the Chinese president at Manchester Town Hall. Join us and other groups to voice concerns about the human rights abuses going unchallenged by David Cameron and the continuing attack on all sections of society. Junior doctors, unions, disabled people, the low and middle waged plus many others. ‪#‎TakeBackMcr‬

      Bring your lollipops, banners and whatever good chants you have. Meet us at lunch time in Albert Square.

  50. Ros Altmann’s CV

    Biography
    UK Parliament* Current Government Post
    Post Date
    * Minister of State (Department for Work and Pensions) (Pensions) May 2015 –
    Professional Life
    Job title Organisation Date
    Director General Saga Group 2010 – 2013
    Director Natwest Investment Management 1991 – 1993
    Director Rothschild Internation Asset Management 1989 – 1991
    Vice President Chase International Investors 1984 – 1989
    Independent Consultant Self Employed 1994 – 2010
    Independent Consultant Self Employed 2013 – 2015
    Chair Lord Chancellor’s Strategic Investment Board 2014 – 2015
    Public Life
    Job title Organisation Date
    Business Champion for Older Workers HM Government 2014 – 2015
    Governor LSE 1988 –
    Governor Pensions Policy Institute 2001 – 2015
    Adviser International (Longevity Centre) 2014 – 2015
    Trustee The Age Employment Network 2005 – 2010
    Non Excutive Member/Adviser Court Funds Office/Official Solicitor/Public Trustee Investment Board 2004 – 2015
    Non Executive Director Independent Press Standards Organisation 2014 – 2015

    Is there any wonder this laughing hyena thinks what she says is wonderful? Rothschild is the give away!

    • Another Fine Mess

      Perhaps the idea is she’ll keep swapping jobs until she finds one she can do.

    • Another Fine Mess

      All of her jobs seem to involve living off other peoples money.
      To take just one “Business Champion for Older Workers HM Government 2014 – 2015”. What’s that achieved, – nothing, never heard of it.

  51. I Despair Of Zombie Do Nothing Keyboard Warriors Sat In Their Armchairs Drinking Tea And Eating Bourbon Creams Being Led Like Lambs To The Slaughter

    • where were you 20 odd years ago when disabled people didn’t even have an equality law to fall back on? where you there outside LWT demonstarting for rights of access and communication? did you see Chris Tarrant – he of charitable giving claims – poke his head out of a window and tell us all to ‘fuck off’? were you there? I was.

  52. Another Fine Mess

    Low-Skilled Apprenticeships A ‘Waste Of Time’
    Sir Michael is also expected to comment on the fact that too many employers “are wasting public funds” and “abusing the trust” placed in them.

    He described many courses as simply “cheap labour” and called upon business leaders to take responsibility.

    Speaking to Sky News, Sir Michael said: “Those apprentices are being sold short, spending one year doing a pretty worthless job – not really an apprenticeship – and having no employment prospects at the end of it.

    “That’s not fair and it’s not doing the economy any good and it’s certainly not doing those youngsters much good either.”
    http://news.sky.com/story/1573946/low-skilled-apprenticeships-a-waste-of-time
    https://www.skyacademy.com

  53. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Sugar Tax & Jamie Oliver is so fat these days. Does that means Jamie is going on a diet & stop eating sugar since he`s so over weight !!!

  54. Indeed a Utter Outrage

    The Dismal Tory Prime Minister Eating Out with the Tinpot Tyrant Dictator
    of the Peoples Republic of China a State Dominated by Slave Labour and
    Suppression of Political and Religious Freedom

    No to Tory Arrogance and Stuff the Tyranny of the Peoples Republic of
    China

    GEOFF REYNOLDS | October 22, 2015 at 11:09 am | Reply

    David Cameron & George Osborne are having lunch with Chinese President Xi Jinping on Friday at Manchester Town Hall. Apparently we were not clear enough when we told the Tories to get out of Manchester at their conference. So let’s show the the visiting dignitaries how despised Cameron & Osborne are in Manchester. And that all Human Rights abusers are not Welcome.
    Rally point: side of Central Library opposite Midland Hotel.

  55. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Youth Mental Health Awareness launch today.
    Now take your Prozac & shut up.

  56. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Tory Voter are Cameron`s NME.

  57. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    I am now up to £805,000 Disability fraud

  58. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Life Coach I have run out of bog rolls, can you be a good Life Coach & get some from the shop !!!! Don`t answer back bad Life Coach I will need my toilet cleaning next.

  59. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    DWP Press Office Retweeted

    Min. Disabled People ‏@MinisterDisPpl · 1h1 hour ago
    2/2 Eg @wiltshirepolice hiring disabled ppl in their control room – staff whose crucial work can make the difference between life and death

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Don`t ask the disabled person to make the tea. Sizzle !!! Tripped over again all the tea has gone over the control panel.

  60. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    DWP Press Office ‏@dwppressoffice · 4 hrs4 hours ago
    Congratulations Employment Minister & Indian Diaspora Champion Priti Patel who won Woman of the Year at #GG2Awards

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      David Cameron has recently appointed Priti Patel MP to a new role as UK India Diaspora Champion. In this role, Priti will work to strengthen the links between the Government and the Indian diaspora in the UK, and promote the commercial, diplomatic and cultural ties that exist between the two countries. David Cameron made this announcement in India on 14th November 2013 during his third official visit to India since becoming Prime Minister.

      David Cameron said:

      “I’ve made a personal commitment to strengthening UK-India relations because I believe we can be one of the great partnerships of the 21st century. And I firmly believe that British Indians – who already bring so much to our country – can play a vital role forging this strong relationship.

      To date, I don’t think we’ve made the most of all they have to offer so I’ve appointed Priti Patel as our diaspora champion.

      This new role will increase links between the government and the British Indian community, enabling us to draw on their experiences and expertise, and strengthening the bond between our 2 countries.”

      To welcome this role, Priti said:

      “The Prime Minister has made it his personal mission to strengthen the bond between the UK and India and I am delighted to support him on forging a closer relationship between our 2 countries. We are already bound together by many common bonds – economic, social and cultural. British Asians in the UK contribute hugely to our country and enrich our communities, which is why it is a privilege to have been appointed to a role which will enhance the special relationship between our 2 countries’.”

      Read More:
      http://priti4witham.com/content/priti-patel-mp-appointed-uk%E2%80%99s-first-indian-diaspora-champion-0

  61. David Fraud is a joke and a very poor one at that. Next he’ll be getting Peppa Pig to include storylines about Daddy pig’s workplace pension – that way we’ll subtly know what a ‘great’ idea it is.

  62. “TWO UPPER TRIBUNAL JUDGES WHO ARE BOTH EX DWP COMMISSIONERS, IGNORE SUICIDE THREATS OF DISABLED MAN”

    Judge Mark Rowland and Judge David Williams have complerely ignored the fact that i have reported having suicidal thoughts after my disability benefits were stopped.

    Police have attended my home to ask if i needed counselling.

    Judge Mark Rowland handed my appeal papers to a second judge after i complained that my human rights had been breached.
    The basis of my complaint is that under article 6 of the human rights act, a litigant must be given a fair trial by an independent judge.

    Both Rowland and Williams are former Department of Social Security Commissioners……………..

    When anybody appeals to the upper tribunal, these judges cherry pick what you can take forth to the next level, in effect, disallowing pertinent evidence to go forward.

    These judges are nothing but a pair of cheap crooks that steal benefit payments working on evidence furnished to them by the DWP.

    Within my last submission to the upper tribunal i gave evidence from my ATOS WCA report……………

    My report states that i was seen to sit in a chair, be examined on a couch and be seen to stand in one place, holding onto my walking stick for the entire duration of the assessment.
    The report contradicts itself entirely. It also states that “i declined” to be examined on seventy five things that i was asked to perform.

    Anita Bellows, a leading anti disability denial activist used my report to request a freedom of information response from the DWP.

    From: Anita Bellows

    25 January 2013

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    With reference to ESA Work Capability Assessments

    What does ‘Declined’ mean when used in an ESA medical report form?

    Is there an option in LIMA other than free text which allows giving
    reasons for a client to decline to attempt to do something or to
    decline examination? Because of pain for example?

    What do DM interpret ‘Declined’ to mean when seen in a medical
    report and when there are no explanations?

    How can ‘Declined’ be shown in a medical report when the available
    LiMA documentation doesn’t list ‘Declined’ as an option for the HCP
    to select?

    Yours faithfully,

    Anita Bellows

    Link to this
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/meaning_of_the_word_declined_whe

    …………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    The DWP CAME BACK WITH THIS REPLY;

    The explanation does not appear in guidance, but in order to provide an explanation “decline” is
    a word used by our computer system (“LiMA”). It does not differentiate between ‘will not’ and
    ‘cannot’ perform a movement, but highlights the fact that it is not a movement a customer
    followed through on the day of the examination. It is intended as a descriptor to highlight to the
    Decision Maker at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) the customer’s ability on the
    day of the assessment.

    Yours sincerely

    DWP Business Management Team
    Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………….

    THE REPLY BY THE DWP IS A COMPLETE LIE………….

    The healthcare professional has a screen in front of them that gives them the option of ticking a box that states the claimant was not able to do what was was asked of them due to pain etc.

    The hcp types in the words “CLIENT DECLINED” and this is interpreted to mean that you refused, by both the DWP DECISION MAKERS AND THE APPEAL JUDGES.

    The entire WCA programme is nothing but a fraud on a universal scale.

    The judges, like Rowland and Williams, DWP puppets…………

  63. “DWP DIRTY TRICKS TO STEAL DISABILITY BENEFITS”

    I have in front of me a medical report where the word “declined”
    was used over 70 times during an examination. You would want me to
    believe that the claimant responded 70 times NO, without adding a
    comment. How believable is that?

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/150382/response/371367/attach/html/2/IR216%20Bellows%20response.pdf.html

    • overburdenddonkey

      geoff
      the tribunal is a WCA….

      • “DWP SIX POINT PLAN TO AVERT SUICIDE”

        1/ HIDE THE DEATHS WITHIN STATISTICS
        2/ DITTO
        3/ DITTO
        4/ DITTO
        5/ DITTO
        6/ ASK CHRISTOPHER GRAHAM, THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION COMMISSIONER, TO STALL PROCEEDINGS…………

  64. I thought I’d help the government out with a pension advert myself: https://vimeo.com/143268488

  65. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    David Cameron dismisses UN inquiry into DWP’s treatment of disabled people

    The apparent UN investigation came to light in August

    Independent – 21st Oct 2015

    A United Nations investigation into the treatment of disabled people by the British Government may not be all it has been “cracked up to be”, David Cameron has said.

    The Prime Minister said he was proud of his Government’s record on people with disabilities and said he would cooperate with any probe, but downplayed its significance.

    “Of course I will look at any United Nations investigation but sometimes when you look at these investigations they are not necessarily all they are originally cracked up to be,” he said.

    There are many disabled people our world who don’t have any of the rights or any of the support we have here in Britain and I think we should be proud of what we do as we cooperate with this report.”

    A leading disability rights charity said in August that it had been contacted by the UN Committee on Rights of Persons with Disabilities to help with the probe.

    The charity, Inclusion Scotland, reports that it was asked to assist with the investigation, said to focus on changes to the social security system to help disabled people

    Such investigations are conducted “confidentially” by the UN and the body will not confirm or deny whether the UK is currently being put under scrutiny.

    The Department for Work and Pensions has previously declined to comment on the possibility of an investigation.

    Read More:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-dismisses-un-investigation-into-dwps-treatment-of-disabled-people-a6702531.html

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Dave stop giving Disability Hate Crime to disabled people.

      • “THE GALLOWS ARE CALLING”

        The Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith has taken four months to reply to a damning report by the Work and Pensions Committee.

        After months hearing evidence, the Committee called for a full independent inquiry into the sanctions regime – suggesting it appeared to be “purely punitive”.

        Duncan-Smith has agreed to trial some changes to the system, including a yellow card system for sanctions, but has refused the number one recommendation – an independent inquiry.

        “I am incredibly angry today,” Thompson said, adding that she had been crying ever since she heard the response.

        “What crime had David committed? If he had been a criminal, he would have had a judge, a jury, a trial. But he didn’t get anything. The DWP just decided he could starve to death .

        “He never even got an inquest.

        “Wouldn’t you want to uncover what had happened not just to David but to all the other people who have died or had to go hungry because of a sanction? It sickens me. What is wrong with these people?”

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ids-slammed-over-pathetic-response-6684030#ICID=sharebar_twitter

        • Geoff.

          “Duncan-Smith has agreed to trial some changes to the system, including a yellow card system for sanctions”

          Its not being introduced until Next Year!

        • I wrote another time, that there must be something on the go here. Smith must have knowledge of some Court case on the offing. How is it, that now, after all this time, he takes a measure to try do something, anything> He must be concerned over some investigation of some kind.
          The fact is, the NEW NAZIS are well aware of what their policies have been responsible for. They know of the things you tell us here, Geoff every other day. They haven’t given a damn 5 years now. Clegg’s Liberals have a large part in this, as they allowed Cameron’s Hog Party Nazis to stay in power. The appalling ineptness of Miliband, etc.
          Yet, now, George.I.Smith makes a little, and let it be said, very inadequate response to a bunch of recommendations months ago.
          Cameron just more or less brushed aside SNP MP Angus Robertson at Parliament the other day. “I will look into it” The Hog Boy has not the least intention to do anything of the sort.
          Hopefully, we will learn more about what is going on, they dare not tell us yet.
          But Smith and Cameron, really should be in an International Court for crimes against Humanity.

          • “WHY WOULD DWP WANT TO RETRACT A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION RESPONSE ABOUT BENEFIT DEATHS?”

            “WHAT IS IT THEY SEEK TO HIDE?”

            Maybe you are right Gordon to presume that Corporal Clot is under some pressure from a source that we are not party to………
            I noticed that the Eugenics department has retracted an answer which they gave to a query regarding statistics of those that had died within 14 days after being transferred from other benefits to jsa, hence:

            Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

            I have seen the recent release by Department re ESA deaths who
            where found fit for work released on 27/8/2015.

            DWP recently generated ASMRs (age standardised mortality rates) for
            many categories of claimant, but not for the category of most
            interest: those who have been taken off IB/SDA after being found
            fit for work. Many of these move to JSA or other benefits so can I
            please have those statistics of those who died within 14 days after
            transferring to JSA or other benefits from IB /ESA .

            Yours faithfully,

            G Ward

            ………………………………………………………………………………………………….

            The DWP claim that they don’t have to give an answer because the cost to retrieve the information will cost more than £600.

            We know this to be a blatant lie as the DWP has all the statistics to hand following their embarrassing admissions in which 2380 deaths were cited.

            But why are they wanting to cover something up?

            From: DWP IGS FOI
            Department for Work and Pensions

            22 October 2015

            DWP IGS FOI would like to recall the message, “Freedom of Information request our ref FOI 2015-IR598”.

            “THE BLATANT LIES AND MASKING OF THE DEATHS OF CLAIMANTS IS BEGINNING TO TRIP THEM UP”

          • There have been a number of reports of manhole covers being stolen. Police say they are “looking into it”😀

    • paultheswineherd

      Government denying any responsibility for it all as usual and also not confirming or denying anything – a traditional and well tried trick to deceive.
      Let’s hope that the U.N. people really do their stuff and don’t believe any of the untruths which are probably going to be told to them thrown by this pathetic bunch of Tory twats who are just Nazi’s, but without the hats, uniforms and jackboots to go with it.
      The people who have died by their, and IDS’s cruel policies deserve nothing less.

  66. Santa hates you

    Thanks for your post JV. I can’t believe the Tories have spent eight and a half million quid on this stupid gimmick. Are these are the same hypocrites who have been telling us over and over again that the welfare budget is too much? How can they rob the disabled, unemployed and those struggling to put food on the table out of what’s rightfully theirs, yet at the same time waste millions on pet projects? Then again this is the classic Tory party – the same nasty bunch of wreckers that in the 1980s deindustrialised the UK in order to the teach the working class who’s boss. They stuck the knife into British manufacturing industry, then stood back and watched it bleed to death. Whole communities and millions of skilled jobs where destroyed with no hope of governmental support. Now because there are no jobs in the manufacturing industry left people have to take any low paid service industry job that comes along to make ends meet. Yes these are the same people who have to claim tax credits. Shamelessly the Tories blame them for claiming this benefit, then cut it. Yet the Tories are the ones who hide the fact that it was their fucking policies that destroyed millions of better paid skilled jobs in this country. TORY FUCKING SCUM!!!

    • paultheswineherd

      Santa hates you – Well said. These bastards should be ashamed of themselves, but they are not and never will be – the Nasty Nazi party is well and truly back with a continuing vengeance (but maybe for not too much longer – their own policies will most probably catch up with them – not least because of the proposed Tax Credits reductions)!

  67. North Lanarkshire Council proposing to axe 1,095 posts.

    John Young, North Lanarkshire Council steward for the trades union Unison, said: “This is devastating for everyone living in North Lanarkshire and once again it is the low paid and vulnerable, including children, elderly and disabled people who will be the worst affected.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34603330

  68. paultheswineherd

    Please don’t forget that Cameron & Osborne, as well as the Chinese Premier will be in Manchester tomorrow at Manchester Town Hall (Friday). Rally point for demos side of Central Library opposite the Midland Hotel. I hope that the Mancunians give them a very raucus and very unwelcoming ‘visit’! After all, they really deserve this. Please ‘spread the word’ far and wide in any way that you can!

  69. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

  70. my name is " my, name

    John: I’m interested in investing in a retirement plan. What kind of plans do you have?

    Demented Furby : Well, we have a very special plan for you! It’s a plan that will give you the utmost sense of security for your old age years.

    John: Good. How does it work?

    Demented Furby: Well, you pay us a percentage of your paycheck each week. Better yet, you don’t have to do a thing! To make it easier for you, we’ll automatically deduct it from your paycheck every week. And when you reach retirement age, we’ll pay you your retirement money on a monthly basis.

    John: Do I determine for myself how much I pay into this plan every week?

    Demented Furby: No, we decide how much we will take from you.

    John: How much do you deduct each week?

    Demented Furby: That changes, depending upon how much we need the money to pay the current retirees.

    John: What is the retirement age?

    Demented Furby: Oh, the retirement age is whatever we say it is. It changes. As people live longer, we raise the retirement age up to compensate for our possible losses.

    John: Hmm, I see. And if I start today, will the retirement age be locked at its current age?

    Demented Furby: No. If people are living longer when you reach retirement age, we will raise the age limit. I’m really sorry, but there’s nothing you can do about it.

    John: And just how much will I get paid once I retire?

    Demented Furby: Oh, that changes also. We are always lowering the payments as more people retire and draw from this system, because there is not enough money coming in to compensate for all the money going out. You see, we take the money that others have paid into it and, after we pocket most of it, we divide it among new retirees.

    John: But, isn’t that called a Pyramid Scheme?

    Demented Furby: Yes, it is. But we call it something else.

    John: And aren’t all Pyramid Scheme illegal?

    Demented Furby: Yes, they are. But, as I said, we call it something else. And besides, we are immune from those laws. You see, we’re a subsidiary of a big corporation, and we have the backing of that corporation. Those laws don’t apply to us.

    John: I see. May I see the contract please?

    Demented Furby: There is no contract. All you have to do is trust us! Have faith in us. We’ll give you our word that we’ll pay you.

    John: But, if there’s no contract to sign, there’s no guarantee that I’ll get any retirement money from you!

    Demented Furby: Correct, but you do have our word.

    John: If this office decides to cancel their retirement plan service, do I get back the money I already put into it?

    Demented Furby: No, we keep it all. We don’t have to give you a penny. That’s the law.

    John: Well, I don’t think I like what I’m hearing. It sounds like a scam. Give me one reason why I should consider your retirement plan if I am the one taking all the risk, and if there are no guarantees?

    Demented Furby: Well, 99% of all Brits partake of our retirement plan because they are led to believe it is mandatory to sign up.

    John: So, let me get this straight. Your retirement plan is based upon the Pyramid Scheme, which is illegal in. There is no guarantee that I’ll get paid once I retire. You can change the retirement age at will. You can change how much is deducted from my paycheck at will. If this office decides to cancel this retirement plan service, I lose all the money I put into it. There’s no written contract between us, only your word. There’s no obligation for you to keep your word, but there appears to be an obligation for me to keep paying you money, regardless.

    Demented Furby: Yes, that is absolutely correct.

    John: And what happens if I decide to stop paying into your retirement plan?

    Demented Furby: Oh, you can’t stop. Once you start, you cannot voluntarily drop out.

    John: Really? Well, let’s say I decide to join your system. What happens if I stop paying into your retirement plan?

    Demented Furby: In that case, we will garnish your wages, confiscate your possessions, sell your house, car, and everything else you have. Then we’ll take that money from those sales to pay your fair share of this retirement plan, plus interest and penalty fees. And, in addition to monetary damages, we will have you arrested, taken to court, and thrown in prison. And then we’ll add court fees to your debt.

    [Dear reader, what would you do if you were in John Doe’s position?]

    John: I don’t believe what I’m hearing from you! What kind of security is this? I’ve heard enough! I’m leaving!

    Demented Furby: But, Mr. John Doe, according to our records, you have already joined our retirement system! It’s called, “Social Security.”

  71. IDS And The Welfare Cuts

    The first cut won’t hurt at all
    The second only makes you wonder.
    The third will have you on your knees
    You start bleeding I start screaming.

  72. Twitterstorms for Tomorrow Friday 23rd October 10am – 3pm
    News Add comments
    Oct 222015

    The Tories have been generous for once ! They have provided us with not one but two juicy targets for twitter attacks tomorrow !

    Target 1: From 10 am – The DWP are holding one of their ridiculous and patronising Disability Confident events in Swindon – and they have provided us with the hashtag #DisabilityConfident with which they intend to broadcast propaganda that everything they do is good for disabled people!. We are calling on all disabled people on their supporters to tell the people viewing #DisabilityCONfident what the government are really doing to disabled people. We have prepared a tweetlist which you can use to send tweets into the hashtag – or you are very welcome to send your own – pig tweets welcome!

    Target 2: From 12.30 pm – Off to Manchester now where Cameron and Osborne are taking the Chinese President Xi Jinping to Manchester Town Hall for lunch. We want to know “Which part of ‘Fuck Off’ do they not understand?” Apparently we were not clear enough when we told the Tories to get out of Manchester at their conference. Manchester DPAC and allies will be there to show the the visiting dignitaries how despised Cameron & Osborne are in Manchester, and that all Human Rights abusers are not Welcome.

    Lets show our support for them on twitter as well. Once again we have prepared a tweetlist which you can use to send tweets – or you are very welcome to send your own!

    http://dpac.uk.net/2015/10/twitterstorms-for-tomorrow-friday-23rd-october-10am-3pm/

  73. But what about the UN’s investigation? forget it.

    Lawyers express concern over ministerial code rewrite.

    Conservative ministers have been accused of quietly abandoning the longstanding principle that members of the government should be bound by international law.

    A rewrite of the ministerial code that sets out the standard of conduct expected has omitted a reference to the subject – a decision that senior lawyers say could have far-reaching implications for the UK and its relationship with the rest of the world.

    Lawyers say key issues affected by the change could include decisions about whether to go to war or use military force, such as the use of drones in Syria, any decision made by an international court about the UK and any laws not incorporated into English law, such as human rights legislation and the Geneva conventions.

    http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/oct/22/lawyers-express-concern-over-ministerial-code-rewrite

  74. “INTERESTING QUESTIONS”

    From: Helena Watson

    21 October 2015

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions
    I understand that we have an amount to live on if we get any
    benefits and that is called the “applicable amount”. In all Benefit
    letters it advises reader that the “law says”, which law would that
    be and when was it passed?

    Also if the “law says” that one has to have an “applicable amount”
    to live on is it not illegal to sanction people?

    Lastly whilst having worked and paid full stamp for over 45 years
    why is my state pension called a benefit?

    Yours faithfully

    Helena Watson

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/amount_by_law_one_has_to_live_on#incoming-723098

  75. Smiths icon Johnny Marr blasts ‘cruel’ council and vows to fight decision to axe transport for disabled kids

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/smiths-icon-johnny-marr-blasts-6686831

  76. Another Fine Mess

    I hope there’s some Ch4/5 and independent journalists following some of these 4,500 ex-steelworkers on their ‘customer journey’, from their claimant commitment, through their endless ’employability and CV re-writing courses, right though to their new full-time ‘job’ – standing in a charity shop for their benefits.

    • overburdenddonkey

      they’ll find out what the term ‘let go’ means…

    • Another Fine Mess

      They’ll find out what “800,000 vacancies available every week” on UJM means in practice!

      • overburdenddonkey

        ie robots take over cowley car plant used to employ 28000, now it employs 4000 and produces more vehicles…

        • overburdenddonkey

          ps a UBI will change everything…

        • I always wondered that if you replace human beings with robots, sure they will make stuff faster and quicker, but if eventually everyone becomes unemployed, who in the world can afford to buy them. soon there will be only a limited amount of jobs of people doing things that a computer will never be able to do properly, will it be then that everyone ill be paid a survival wage and be endlessly searching for work everyday just in case there was a vacancy in one of these very view converted jobs, and all made to interview for them, only to taken on by one of their friends? Its not a very utopian world is it? Doesn’t really make sense in the. Of course we need robots too, but robots are taking jobs away from people who even enjoy doing their jobs, there has to be some sort of balance too. Just a thought.

          • overburdenddonkey

            global market with global pop of 7,375,855,000 10% of that is 737,585,500 = plenty of consumers….

            • but still OBD it will probably shrink even further, until there are a load of rich people with their own robots all producing a load of things no body needs while the rest of the people starve an die off . A sort of mass genocide by neglect, but then again the fewer of them the more the uprising right?

          • Another Fine Mess

            Maria, we’re there already.

            • AFM then something must change soon, in that case,

              • overburdenddonkey

                LOL🙂 it already has…’THINGS CAN ONLY GET….!?’ oh, we’ve had that one… WORSER…

                • OBD sadly yes, but I don’t like to think of it

                • overburdenddonkey

                  maria
                  we’ve always traded globally the difference is not many are employed locally to produce the goods that were once traded….capital is traded instead..it follows cheap labour…
                  our local capitalist economy has become global…
                  in the sense that we’re NLR to workforce service/supply it….
                  as we don’t hold the capital that trend will not reverse, @ least anytime soon…sorry and all that but that’s the way it is… http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/oct/22/new-class-war-politics-class-just-beginning?CMP=share_btn_tw
                  but imv it’s the same shit different day, class division never went away, our temporary involvement in the means of production has though…

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps not many are employed locally to produce the goods that; typo insert, ‘are now globally traded, as exports from the UK’..

                • OBD so let me just clarify, that instead of products or things being made that are traded, it is now money that is the commodity, money is being traded for money, products don’t really have a place in trade any more? as for classes I suppose their will always be different groups of people, but is it right to be able to destroy peoples lives and cause them misery, if effort that they may a few peoples lives at the top in paradise. That people at the bottom should still be made to be able they have all they need, regardless what those have at the top and I think basic rights should be expanded, not just to food, clean water and shelter, but access to justice, to a social life, to pleasure too, access to hobbies and fair access to be productive, but that doesn’t always have to be commercial, work either. if you care for your own relatives and care for your own children, or watch out for the neighbours that is valuable work to me, even though its not really seen as work in the eyes of the DWP, what I’m trying to say is that you don’t have to be economically active to be a value to society . And when it gets to a point like it is now, where people are now being denied a fair life, a comfortable life, like I believe all should have, just for a selfish few at the top. I think it ought to be changed, don’t you? Is that what UBI is about? or have I got it wrong? um I’m not trying to get your back up, but I like politics and take an interest in them, although I have not long had this interest and there is much I do not yet know, sorry if I may seem ignorant and please feel free to put me right, if I am not?:)

                • overburdenddonkey

                  maria
                  money is being abused….i believe in the reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life for all, this IS social justice…my comment re ‘we’ve always traded globally the difference is not many are employed locally to produce the goods that were once traded etc’ is where we are now…i’m a strong advocate of community which is why i often ask where are the grassroots support groups etc…. http://basicincome2013.eu/en/index.html i can only post it it is for you to read it….

                • sorry OBD you have posted that many a time and it has gone over my head without any thought to read it but it is exactly as I grasped from what you said before. I’m not trying to challenge you, more erm publically gather my own thoughts as well as sharing opinions, I do believe we share the same ideals though, that we must all care for one another and make sure we all have enough, make sure everyone is treated decently, make sure everyone is treated with respect. It seems that UBI could achieve that. It is a way better plan than the Tory selfish ideals.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  maria
                  i merely repeated what i’ve always said, i never say any different…i don’t care if you’re trying to challenge me or not that is your prerogative to do so or not…capital is traded instead..it follows cheap labour…meant capital is invested globally in factories etc.. http://allofusfirst.org/

              • I know you have but I haven’t always understood UBI, well to the full extent, is it something that is just being worked on in Scotland or could it be in England too? I don’t want be stuck in England to live in dark dystopian Tory world. When you get Scottish independence, and I don’t blame you after who we have in England, if you came and took over the north, I wouldn’t protest. I think it is very good that Scottish politics has not changed, regarding to welfare policies, that their attitude remains a caring one. But its depressing living here, everyone is now working to their own ends, disregarding what happens to their neighbour. But I think you are right and wish you well, with your work.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  the link i posted is for a european UBI…scotland is still part of the uk and we have the barnett formula which actually tells the r.uk where it’s is economically and distributively, as it is linked directly to per head capita uk…
                  the scottish gov doesn’t have control over the welfare budget, it is a reserved matter….it’s depressing living anywhere in the uk if one is income short….dwp is the same where ever… selfishness is always depressing, depression is always caused by oppression…
                  http://wingsoverscotland.com/a-poverty-of-imagination/

                • OBD its peoples attitudes that make the difference, I don’t really know because I don’t live in Scotland, but people around me have become selfish and down right nasty, I hope they still look out for each other up there. But thank you for the link and I will have a look tomorrow.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  http://wingsoverscotland.com/kezia-dugdale-fact-check-part-674/
                  “Developing our own social security system”, of course, is a total lie. Almost all of welfare, including pensions and Universal Credit, remains reserved to Westminster under the Scotland Bill 2015, with the Scottish Government allowed to fiddle around the edges a bit by diverting money from elsewhere to help people suffering from the Conservatives’ reforms.’
                  you’ll obvs get an idea of how scotland differs by the comments…
                  also how corbyn is turning a blind eye to what slabs are saying locally ie that slabs are autonomous from r.uk labour, this is simply not true….

                • ok OBD Westminster goes on and on so much about England and Scotland having their own say and their own say. I get the idea that everything is now different, that Scotland are to have different rules about welfare and Scotland should have different rules to what they have now, if they did change that would be progress in the right direction. But I suppose you get a bit hopeless living here in England, thinking your going to be under this austerity regime, forever and ever. While other parts of the UK move on from that. I don’t know what going to happen, but I don’t want to be stuck somewhere that continues to have these regressive values.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  maria, what part of nothing has changed/will change in scotland, unless we become indy, don’t you get…!?

                • I think I’m getting my wires crossed here, I think mean the attitudes of people won’t change, you know of people, and I’m worried England will get left behind, I’m sorry OBD I got other things on my mind I’m probably not explaining what I mean properly, there is a lot of politics I don’t know about and when I get a minute I should probably look into it more thoroughly, before I continue. But I enjoy chatting to you about it anyway and I’m learning as I go along.:)

                • overburdenddonkey

                  it’s good/constructive to worry that england aka r.uk will be left behind….

                • Is that wing over Scotland page yours? its very good any way very informative.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  no of course not, don’t listen to trolls…..

                • Thank you OBD, and you never know who will turn out to be a troll really, I’m trying to seek out the truth, it isn’t always easy. I am trying myself to write a fictional novel, about politics, but I feel out of my depth to do it, but at the same time, it is something I must do. But I need to find the truth and reality before, I write it, I want it to make an impact, that the welfare of people and human rights are important and to try and convey that message to other people, even change a few trolls attitudes.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  good luck with your project, maria…bye…

                • Thank you:)

          • Another Fine Mess

            Perhaps the great tory recession of 2016 will make people listen.
            While there’s so many non-productive ‘jobs’, that don’t produce anything but a loss, we need less people working. The whole of the welfare to workfare industry and the Waste Programme can go for a start.

      • overburdenddonkey

        0 hr contracts are growing exponentially atm they’ll sure be able to land themselves one of those…. 19% up on last yr….
        http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/sep/07/nothing-good-about-zero-hours-contract-abolish-them

  77. Scunthorpe’s Tata steelworkers to get £9m in help

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34615017

    Benefits changes could add to cancer patients’ money woes – charity

    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/oct/23/benefits-changes-could-add-to-cancer-patients-money-woes-charity

    • Another Fine Mess

      Why are they throwing 10s of £millions of hard-working taxpayers money at it? Can’t the ex-steelworkers just ‘get another job’ just like everybody else is supposed to do in the rest of the derelict areas of the UK.
      It’s almost like the Gov claims of creating millions of ‘jobs’ are not true.🙂
      The whole area is going to be overrun with providers/parasites.

      • Working Links have already taken over a 100-storey office building in Redcar town centre😀 Ingeus and Seetec are due to move in soon😀

        • paultheswineherd

          Workie – You are most probably right there, (as is Another Fine Mess also). The ‘money hungry’ parasite ‘Companies’ who will want to get goodness knows how many millions of pounds of ‘hard-working tax-payers money’ from this Tory Government will inundate these areas which are soon going to be hit by ‘unemployment’.
          They will have never had it so good – while the poor ‘workers’ will be hit by a lorryload of shit from reduced benefits/no benefits/to not being able to pay their rent/mortgages.
          I only hope that not too many of these ‘workers’ voted ‘Conservative’ in the last General Election – if so, then they will be crying into their ‘last’ beers.

  78. Well someone thinks like me and got a assessment of Workie by children.

    Workie… or as I call him now “Wankie” has been judged by children… check out the cost they estimate to make “Wankie” [out of the mouths of babes] and the elder childs comment about visibility of Wankie.

    • paultheswineherd

      Gazza – that video is brilliant – even ‘adults’ do not know what ‘Workie’ (Wankie) is on about (apart from being completely patronising!) – let alone the children that were filmed. I can only assume that before too long a revamped version of ‘Furby’ will be completely remarketed as ‘Workie’ and be sold by Asda in time (for the children’s market) for Christmas 2015.
      Look forward to the advert on TV very soon my friends!

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      The last question was – What do you think about Workie?
      Answer – Weirdo !!!

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  80. OT: Sanctions “Yellow Card” [Trying to show system is fit beyond date of un investigation]

    hat-tip to unemploymentmovement

    http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/news/3176-dwp-yellow-card-for-sanctions-scheme-widely-condemned

    The End Sentance is telling it as it is:

    “As long as the DWP believes that threats, traps and cruel punishments are the best way to deal with claimants, tinkering with the system is no more than a PR stunt.”

    Hoping the UN investigation finishes soon then back to the way it was.

  81. Indeed Spot On
    Nazi Britain Totalitarian Mainland China

    GORDON KEANE | October 21, 2015 at 8:30 pm | Reply

    Alas…..the NEW NAZIS are in charge in UK right now. If Cameron was in power in the 1930s, he would’ve had Hitler over for tea at Downing Street, and dinner with the King a few blocks up the street. He would be gushing with praise at the newly revitalized German economy. Human Rights wouldn’t get a mention. After all, The tories are doing exactly what Hitler was doing in the 1930s.
    We wonder when it will be a major problem, all these trade deals with China when China starts pushing its weight around, like when they take over a few wee islands out there, etc. What will Cameron do and say then?

    • paultheswineherd

      And – what happens if/or when China and Japan have a fall out over the ‘disputed’ islands between them (as happened I think last year). If hostilities broke out between them, would Cameron be inclined to support China? Or would he support Japan (so that he would not upset the Americans!) Or would he just be neutral/abstain/say absolutely nothing about any of it!
      Or would he just fly off to The Bay of Pigs in Cuba to take refuge!

  82. The 23rd of October does Mark’s the Anniversary of the First Meeting of the First Parliament of Great Britain in 1707 AD.

    This was Following the Act of Union of 1st of May 1707 AD.

    It is Important that there is British Unity For Social Justice and the Welfare
    State so No to the ” Scottish National Party ” and Division

  83. I Hope the House of Lords Rejects Attacks on Tax Credits

  84. overburdenddonkey

    disability CON fident thinks disability is a WORD…

  85. FUCK WORKIE

    WATCH THIS!!

  86. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    DWP blamed by second coroner for incapacity benefit claimant suicide

    VoxPolitical – 23rd Oct 2015

    So you thought Mary Hassall was the only British coroner to have blamed a benefit claimant’s death on the DWP? Think again.

    Read More:
    http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/10/23/dwp-blamed-by-second-coroner-for-incapacity-benefit-claimant-suicide/

  87. paultheswineherd

    It looks like Sky News (10 PM News) and Faisal Islam was over the moon in talking up Camerons/Osbornes/XiPings visit to Manchester. Lots of Chinese youngsters especially saying how much they really loved their ‘People’s Government’ – even the ‘welcoming red and yellow placards’ had been especially flown in from China in special ‘Diplomatic Boxes’.
    Apart from a brief mention of some demonstrators upset at ‘Tibetan lack of Human Rights’ – there was no coverage at all that I could see of our own ‘home grown’ demonstrators -whether they were drowned out or deliberately ‘not shown’ I have no idea (but I suspect both to be the case)!
    I really wish that I (and many others I would imagine) could say that ‘I love our Government’ – but that is far from the case – I HATE THE FUCKING BASTARDS WITH AN ABSOLUTE VENGEANCE AND THE SOONER THEY GO THE BETTER.

    • Is Faisal Islam A Tory?

      Do bears shit in the woods?
      Is the Pope a Catholic?😀

      • Anyone know what was in the briefcases that those Chinese guys with the ear-pieces in surrounding the Great Leader all seemed to be clutching on to?😀

      • paultheswineherd

        Is Faisal Islam A Tory?
        Well, it has to be said that with what I have seen so far – most probably!
        Bears do definitely shit in the woods & the Pope is a Catholic and the BBC is also a puppet trumpet of the Conservative Party – no bars held – I also say that David Dimbleby is also a closet Tory.
        I reckon that the BBC will eventually going to be broken up and probably be sold to that arch-liar Rupert Murdoch and his BSkyB empire. The TV licence will be scrapped in favour of a ‘Sky’ Subscription that will also incorporate the BBC. That fucking bastard will get even more viewers and then he will buy out BT (Sport) and have most of BT also! Oh – and then he would also get money from BT broadband etc! – The old, but nevertheless, very shrewd fucker!

    • Anyone know what what is the briefcases that those Chinese guys with the ear-pieces in surrounding the Great Leader all seemed to be clutching on to?

      • Funny thing was that they were all slim cases and they all had one. If it was papers or something why not throw them all into the one case. Or one of those cases-on-wheels😀 Wonder if they were armed too? Looked like something out of some Attack of the Ninja Warriors film😀

  88. “ONE MANS KILLING SPREE”

    No wonder he needs round the clock security………….

    Julia Kelly took her life in November 2014. At her inquest in March this year, according to the Northampton Chronicle, “Coroner Anne Pember, recording her verdict of suicide, said she also believed that the ‘upset caused by the potential withdrawal of her benefits had been the trigger for her to end her life’.”

    Ms Kelly had been forced to give up work in 2010 due to pain caused by a car crash (which was not her fault) five years previously. In 2013, she was involved in a second crash and had to undergo a six-hour operation on her spine as a result.

    Together with her father, David Kelly, she formed a charity – Away With Pain – to help fellow sufferers of chronic back pain.

    But then the Department for Work and Pensions told her she had to repay £4,000 in Employment and Support Allowance payments, saying she had failed to declare capital funds.

    It seems the government department was referring to money held by the charity, rather than funds owned by Ms Kelly herself.

    Ms Kelly, who had fought for every penny of her benefit at three tribunal hearings, was bombarded with a series of repayment demands. According to her father, it was this relentless stream of brown-envelope letters that pushed her to suicide.

    He told Channel 4 News about it. Take a look at the report:

    A few months later, the DWP started stridently claiming that no causal link had been shown between claims for incapacity benefits and the suicide of claimants, in response to demands from almost 250,000 petitioners – and more than 90 MPs including the new leader of the Labour Party, Jeremy Corbyn – to publish the number of claimants who have died on benefits.

    We all know the DWP was lying, thanks to Ms Hassall’s report on Michael O’Sullivan.

    The facts about Julia Kelly mean we must now question the magnitude of the lie.

    We know the DWP examined the cases of around 60 people who committed suicide after their benefits were withdrawn or reduced – that fact was most recently mentioned in Prime Minister’s Questions, in the House of Commons on Wednesday (October 21) – but the Department has refused to publish its findings.

    All Cameron would offer was that he would “look … at” the question asked about publication. He can look at it all day without doing anything about it, of course.

    Meanwhile, serious questions are arising as we learn more about these deaths and the extent of the DWP cover-up.

    How many people have died due to the reduction or withdrawal of incapacity benefits?

    How many of these deaths happened long enough after their benefits were withdrawn that the DWP never bother to record them – on the grounds that it was none of the Department’s business (this is what happened with Mr O’Sullivan)?

    How many more coroners’ verdicts have implicated the DWP in the deaths, but have been quietly swept under the carpet?

    And – as the United Nations investigates possible grave and systematic violations of incapacity benefit claimants’ human rights – what can be done to secure the release of the facts?

    ………..and all the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn’t put Dunko together again.

    • Judas!

      Left’s rage as benefits activist joins ‘other side’ for £75k: Anti-cuts firebrand’s job with disability tests firm

      Sue Marsh campaigned against welfare cuts claiming to be too sick to work
      But she’s taken £75,000-a-year job with the firm used by the Government
      Her volte face has infuriated supporters, who have branded her a ‘Judas’
      She claims to have undergone ‘enormous – almost cosmic – mindset shift

    • paultheswineherd

      Geoff – this incident needs to be reported by someone to the U.N. investigation too!

  89. “CORONERS TOLD TO CUT AND PASTE DUNCAN SMITH’S NAME ON ALL DEATH REPORTS TO SAVE TIME”

    A DWP spokesman said that it would speed up medical reports of those found fit for work, who later died.

    Health Care Professionals working for ATOS, CAPITA and MAXIMUS are now requesting changes to their DWP contracts for fear they will be implicated in the deaths.

    A senior MAXIMUS official declined to comment, insisting they all looked well enough to work as they limped away from the examination centres.

    Sue Marsh, a former opponent of disability denial, now working for MAXIMUS, insisted that her £70, 000 salary had no effect on her views and the 2380 deaths were teething problems…………

    • paultheswineherd

      Geoff – The so called ‘health care professionals’ should be made aware before they sign their ‘work contract’ (if such a thing exists in these parasite companies!) that they could become ‘personally liable’ for any decisions that they themselves make – perhaps this would knock their ‘recruitment’ program on its head!

  90. I Despair Of Zombie Do Nothing Keyboard Warriors Sat In Their Armchairs Drinking Coffee And Eating Malted Milk Biscuits

  91. The 24th of October Mark’s the Anniversary of Nazi Thug Heinrich Himmler Ordering Victimisation of the Edelweiss Pirates in 1944 AD.

    Unlike the Hitler Youth which Aimed to turn German Youth into Brainwashed Nazi Sheep the Edelweiss Pirates sought to Not be Slaves of the Nazis

    Down with Nazism

  92. For October 24th Read October 25th but still Himmler was a Evil Nazi
    Tyrant

  93. UK Involvement in Air Bombardment of Syria will only Probably make the
    Situation Worse .

    Better that The UK Restores its National Health Service Instead

  94. I Generally do Not Drink Coffee or Eat Malted Biscuits and at 11.24 PM
    last Evening I was Not on a Computer and Thinking more of Food and
    Sleep

    NoOppression | October 23, 2015 at 11:24 pm | Reply

    I Despair Of Zombie Do Nothing Keyboard Warriors Sat In Their Armchairs Drinking Coffee And Eating Malted Milk Biscuits

  95. Greece has done much to Resist Austerity such as Voting No in a Referendum this Year despite being Let Down by Leadership Afterwards

    Greece’s Rejection of Austerity as shown in that Referendum is
    Commendable

  96. I Hope House of Lords Votes against Attacks on Tax Credits

    That would be something Honourable

    • George Osborne Accused Of Bullying Over Tax Credit Cuts By Baroness Meacher.

      Crossbencher Baroness Meacher complained at the way she and others were treated over proposed “fatal” amendments that would kill off the policy to cut tax credits,

      Threats included that he would “close the House of Lords, that he will create 100 new Conservative peers”, she added.

      http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/10/24/george-osborne-accused-bullying-tax-credit-cuts-baroness-meacher_n_8376950.html

      • paultheswineherd

        The nasty ‘Nazi’ party tries to strike again – they think that because they are so very ‘priveleged’ that the ‘law’ does not apply to them. Unfortunately though, if it really came to the crunch, then the ‘Judiciary’ would most probably ‘side’ with them.
        If one cares to see Prime Ministers Questions – I assume that those ‘powdered-wigged’ judges at the head of the table would most probably overrule everything.
        The total bastards! (I stand to be corrected on this assumption)

    • overburdenddonkey

      they should have never been allowed to be introduced, they were always a con..red tories paving the road to where we now are…

  97. The 25th of October Mark’s the Anniversary of Nazi Thug Heinrich Himmler Ordering Victimisation of the Edelweiss Pirates in 1944 AD .

    Unlike the Hitler Youth which Aimed to turn German Youth into Brainwashed Nazi Sheep the Edelweiss Pirates sought to Not be Slaves of the Nazis .

  98. Health conditions that exempt you from work-related activity.

    Description How certain health conditions affect your Universal Credit Content.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/sick_while_claiming_old_style_js#incoming-721952

  99. “DWP EUGENICS EXPLAINED”

    #DWP ‘Benefit sanctions: Britain’s secret penal system’ by Dr David Webster University of Glasgow

    Benefits claimants are subjected to an ‘amateurish, secret penal system which is more severe than the mainstream judicial system’, writes Dr David Webster of the University of Glasgow.
    By Dr David Webster Published by the Centre for Crime and Justice Studies

    DrDavidWebsterFew people know that the number of financial penalties (‘sanctions’) imposed on benefit claimants by the Department of Work and Pensions now exceeds the number of fines imposed by the courts. In Great Britain in 2013, there were 1,046,398 sanctions on Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants, 32,128 on Employment and Support Allowance claimants, and approximately 44,000 on lone parent recipients of Income Support.

    By contrast, Magistrates’ and Sheriff courts imposed a total of only 849,000 fines.

    Sanctioned benefit claimants are treated much worse than those fined in the courts.

    The scale of penalties is more severe (£286.80 – £11,185.20 compared to £200 – £10,000).

    Most sanctions are applied to poor people and involve total loss of benefit income.

    Although there is a system of discretionary ‘hardship payments’, claimants are often reduced to hunger and destitution by the ban on application for the first two weeks and by lack of information about the payments and the complexity of the application process.

    The hardship payment system itself is designed to clean people out of resources; all savings or other sources of assistance must be used up before help is given.

    Decisions on guilt are made in secret by officials who have no independent responsibility to act lawfully; since the Social Security Act 1998 they have been mere agents of the Secretary of State.

    These officials are currently subject to constant management pressure to maximise penalties, and as in any secret system there is a lot of error, misconduct, dishonesty and abuse.

    The claimant is not present when the decision on guilt is made and is not legally represented.

    While offenders processed in the court system cannot be punished before a hearing, and if fined are given time to pay, the claimant’s punishment is applied immediately.

    Unlike a magistrate or sheriff, the official deciding the case does not vary the penalty in the light of its likely impact on them or their family.

    If the claimant gets a hearing (and even before the new system of ‘Mandatory Reconsideration’ only 3 per cent of sanctioned claimants were doing so), then it is months later, when the damage has been done.

    ‘Mandatory reconsideration’, introduced in October 2013, denies access to an independent Tribunal until the claimant has been rung up at home twice and forced to discuss their case with a DWP official in the absence of any adviser – a system which is open to abuse and has caused a collapse in cases going to Tribunal.

    Yet the ‘transgressions’ (DWP’s own word) which are punished by this system are almost exclusively very minor matters, such as missing a single interview with a Jobcentre or Work Programme contractor, or not making quite as many token job applications as the Jobcentre adviser demands.

    http://blacktrianglecampaign.org/2015/10/23/dwp-benefit-sanctions-britains-secret-penal-system-by-dr-david-webster-university-of-glasgow/

    • It is simply a delay of 14 days in imposing a sanction, during which the claimant will be able to make representations.

      * The government has admitted at:

      https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/jsa-sanctions-impact-of-not-sending-written-notifications-to-claimants-jan-2014-to-dec-2014

      . . . that 47,239 JSA claimants (6.9%) who were sanctioned in 2014 did not receive notification before the money failed to appear in their account.

      Applying this percentage to the whole period of the Coalition government, there will have been about 279,000 cases where claimants had their benefit stopped before being notified.

      This issue was highlighted by Oakley in July 2014.

      The government now proposes to deal with this by reintroducing computer-generated notification, but admits that this will be unlikely to be 100% successful.

      * The current provision that sanctioned claimants, other than arbitrarily-defined ‘vulnerable’, cannot apply for hardship payments for the first two weeks of a sanction is responsible for destitution and food bank use on a large scale.

      The Committee firmly recommended that all sanctioned claimants should be able to apply from day one.

      The government has now agreed only to consider extending the definition of ‘vulnerability’ for the purposes of day one application to ‘a wider group of claimants’.

      Duncan Smith’s parliamentary statement, but not the response itself, specifically mentions people with mental health conditions and the homeless.

      The government says it has also speeded up the hardship claim process so that awards are paid within 3 days, and that subject to feasibility the decision maker will in future set up an appointment to discuss hardship payments where claimants are ‘vulnerable’ or have children.

      * The government has flatly refused the Committee’s recommendation to track what happens to claimants in terms of employment and claimant status after a sanction, in spite of clearly having the capability to do so.

      * The government appears to have given up any attempt to ensure that the one third of all sanctioned claimants whose alleged ‘failure’ is not actively seeking work do not wrongly lose housing benefit as a result.

      These claimants are ‘disentitled’ as well as ‘sanctioned’ and the response (p.5) accepts that Housing Benefit (HB) may be affected as a result.

      A recent clarificatory circular to local authorities, HB Bulletin U1-2015 (30 Sep 2015) related only to the two thirds of penalties which are purely ‘sanctions’ and not ‘disentitlements’.

  100. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    More than £13bn in benefits is going unclaimed

    VoxPolitical – 24th Oct 2015

    “Vulnerable people are missing out on an astonishing £13.23 billion of benefits. The total includes over £2 billion in unclaimed benefits for jobseekers, and more than £3 billion for pensioners.

    The figures were revealed in an answer that employment minister Priti Patel (pictured) gave to a question in Parliament – which highlighted that 45 per cent of people who are currently out of work aren’t claiming Jobseekers’ Allowance – so more than £2.5 billion is going unclaimed.

    The largest unclaimed benefit is Housing Benefit – of which £4 billion isn’t taken up by people who qualify – followed by Pension Credit and Income Support. At the moment slightly more than one-third of people who are entitled to Pension Credit are not claiming it.

    These figures do not include unclaimed tax credits, or Council Tax benefit – so the total will actually be even higher.

    The enormous complexity of the system is playing a part. Someone who has lost their job doesn’t automatically receive the help they are entitled to: they need to know which of the complex web of benefits they could get – and how to apply for them.

    The second issue is pride. This is particularly common among pensioners, many of whom have never claimed a penny in benefits throughout their working lives, and don’t want to start now.

    Third is embarrassment. The demononisation of benefits claimants in Parliament and the media means people are too ashamed to claim the help they need – and to which they are perfectly entitled.”

    http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/10/24/more-than-13bn-in-benefits-is-going-unclaimed/

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      The Tories have already spent the £13bn.

    • overburdenddonkey

      they create fraud in the system to avoid paying out SS, which is the real fraud…it used to be for much higher dole payments than now ‘done any work in the last fortnight’ ‘no’ ‘sign here, bye..’ they removed trust from the system..they created the ‘shame’ and ’embarrassment’ by implication…it’s the system that creates the stigma…
      gone back to the original tory justification for trying to derail the introduction of the welfare state, that the working classes ie those in most need were not to be trusted…
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5dl9fhj7o the pension age escalator has also removed £bns from our local economy as have welfare cuts…

  101. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    MP Justin Tomlinson revives Disability Confident campaign

    ToryBBC – 24th Oct 2015

    The Tory MP for North Swindon is reviving a national drive to encourage firms to employ disabled workers.

    As part of the Disability Confident Campaign, Justin Tomlinson’s forum uses a new approach where employers match their needs with recruiters.

    First launched two years ago, the initial campaign was criticised by some as patronising and alienating.

    Mr Tomlinson said: “With some very small changes you can get some really impressive members of staff.”

    Read More:
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-34612815

  102. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The fall of the dictatorship creating a rogue state is crumbling before our very eyes & so is the national media.

  103. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    You should be paying the REAL WRITERS of Disability, poor & unemployed & unemployable. Not same old same old national media. There are many good writers out there doing real work writing the truth about the failures.

    The rest of the country are turning into crack pots not me !!!

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      A dictatorship runs with contradictions. The failure of contradictions are contradictory to the contradiction.

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        So everything is gibberish and gobbledygook

        • much like what you are saying – why the fuck do we have to have so much crud from this poster – is it part of the contract?????

          • Razor Stepping Plate Sound System

            I went for a 50,000 mile run on my pushy bike today, Ron. When are you going to sue me for £10,000,000,000,000 of DWP disability benefit fraud over the past 40 years? Are you going to cycle all the way to the Moon to catch me.

            • paultheswineherd

              Stepping – DWP is going to send that demented furby called ‘Workie’, AKA Wankie after you on his very slowly shuffeling Employment Training bicycle!
              If ‘Workie’ catches up with you – you could be finished – or may not!🙂

              • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                Paul @ What happens when Workie gets a cold & has to get a sick note. Is the vets or the GPs !!!!

                • paultheswineherd

                  Stepping – ‘Workie’ (because he is not a human) would probably have to go to the vets. The vet would say you are not human or animal – “Workie – you definitely need to “work” at all and every cost – so you will need to make an appointment (via their supreme highnesses at Job Centre Minus) to see Iain Duncan Smith”.
                  Workie turns up at the appointment – he sees IDS and IDS says to him: “Workie – you will have to work at all costs” or lose your benefits. Workie says “Fuck Off IDS – according to your ‘health care professional’ at ATOS I was deemed ‘not fit for work’ so I am therefore ‘not fit to work'”
                  Workie then has to do the usual and apply for a Mandatory Reconsideration – then has to wait for the ‘Decision Maker’ to make a decision. The ‘Decision Maker’ has made a decision – he has put ‘Workie’ into the ESA Support Group due to ‘Mental Health’ considerations.
                  Workie is totally confused – he is not an animal – neither is he a human – he will go into the ESA Support Group and hope for the very best!

          • Hard-working Taxpayer

            SSRPS’s posts make no sense at all!

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          The Tory Trolls – So everything is gibberish and gobbledygook

  104. Protestors and police clash at St Pancras station

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34629313

  105. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Justin Tomlinson MP Retweeted

    Shaw Trust ‏@ShawTrust · Oct 23
    .@JTomlinsonMP @MinisterDisPpl @PlussInspires working together #DisabilityConfident #Swindon

    The shaw Trust are traitors.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Working together to be Disability unconfident.

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Justin Tomlinson MP ‏@JTomlinsonMP · Oct 23
        Tea & cake will be served throughout our Reverse Jobs Fair #DisabilityConfident at @steam_museum 10am-1pm

        But not for the Disabled who are not Disability Confident.

    • This would be so much better if Keith Levene, Jah Wobble & Jeanette Lee were back in the PiL fold. But it’s not a bad track at all. Cheers Sian🙂

  106. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

  107. paultheswineherd

    Sky’s Chief Political Correspondent ‘Faisal Islam’ has seemingly been replaced by ‘Jon Craig’. Perhaps Faisal Islam’s report was not ‘Tory’ enough for Rupert Murdoch. I reinstate my belief that that arch-liar Rupert Murdoch also has the BBC also in his sights as a continuous stream of money for him and his billionairreship (let alone Lord Sugar who Murdoch will probably go into partnership with in the future – two arch-twats together!)

    • Just like the Sky takeover of BSB when it became BSkyB then just Sky🙂 the BBC will become BSkyC then just Sky😀

  108. paultheswineherd

    Corbyn could win something at last!

  109. paultheswineherd

    But – with the Liberal-Democrats!!??

  110. paultheswineherd

    Latest News: (I told you all so!) – Tax Credits are going to be the downfall of the Tories – Churchmen and Tory Backbenchers are ganging up upon George Osborne as they are saying about the so unfair policies of ‘Tax Credit cuts on low-paid working people!

    • There ia absolutely nothing wrong with the WCA process apart from the two thousand, three hundred and eighty that died shortly after being found fit for work (NOT THE REAL FIGURE, A GROSS UNDERESTIMATION FROM DWP FICTIONAL MORTALITY CENTRAL)

      If i was a farmer that selected this many cattle and they all suddenly died i would probably wrap in.

      I make reference to cattle because LORD FRAUD calls us, disabled, “STOCK”…………………………..

      The word stock is reminiscent of the head count of a Nazi concentration camp of it’s inmates by a mentally insane commandant, hence the logic to use such a twisted vocabulary.

      Tomlinson, THE WONGA LEAKS WEASEL, is just trying to keep his head above water.
      The only reason he is not out on his arse is because CAMERON relies on political donations from his old chum ADRIAN BEECROFT, the investor behind WONGA……………

      “2380 DEATHS GIVE THE SO CALLED, HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS OF ATOS, CAPITEE, SEETEC AND MAXIMUS, A COMPLETELY NEGATIVE RATING”

      “ANYONE CAN PLAY AT BEING A DOCTOR, BUT BURYING MISTAKES SEEMS TO BE A FULL TIME OCCUPATION FOR THE DWP”

      ………..THE LIST GETS LONGER, THE LIES MORE LUDICROUS, THE PUBLIC BAYING FOR BLOOD, THE OPPRESSED LEFT TO STARVE…….

    • Another Fine Mess

      Gidiot making a gidiot of himself, I hope he continues with the cuts, he thinks the best way to expand the economy is to cut £50bn from it.

  111. “THE REASON JUSTIN TOMLINSON HAS NOT BEEN SACKED”

    BEECROFTS DONATIONS TO PIG SHAGGERS GANG

    Subsidiary (parties only)
    11/12/2006 Paul A Beecroft £54,576.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    07/08/2007 Paul A Beecroft £12,500.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    21/12/2007 Paul Beecroft £70,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    10/09/2008 Paul A Beecroft £50,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    16/11/2009 Paul A Beecroft £100,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    01/04/2010 Paul A Beecroft £250,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    19/07/2011 Paul A Beecroft £50,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    28/04/2011 Paul A Beecroft £50,000.00 No Campaign Limited
    27/10/2011 Paul A Beecroft £6,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    12/12/2012 Paul A Beecroft £100,600.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    04/09/2013 Paul A Beecroft £8,600.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    27/03/2014 Paul A Beecroft £20,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    30/06/2014 Paul A Beecroft £40,200.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    22/09/2014 Paul A Beecroft £30,600.00 Conservative Party Central Party
    23/12/2014 Paul A Beecroft £43,000.00 Conservative Party Central Party

    • paultheswineherd

      Geoff – This just shows how currupt and sleazy the present political system is – you scratch my back and I will scratch yours – and shag your pig into the bargain!
      But don’t let anyone know about it! (Where is the incriminating photo now I wonder!)🙂

  112. Watching rt news this morning the vile Cameron gloating about a golden era between china and uk……wot a fucking traitor……the Tories like the discusting windsors will slit your throut for 1p ….fucking vile

    • “JACK MA”

      …………Strange you should search the other world news channels to find out the truth damo.
      Even more stranger is the BBC , the spoon fed authors of tory propaganda, omitted to mention that Cameron has been “advised” by the billionnaire boss, Chinas wealthiest man, Jack Ma……

      One of China’s top businessmen, Alibaba founder Jack Ma, has been appointed by British Prime Minister David Cameron to advise him on business, the UK government said.

      The announcement came the day before a four-day state visit to Britain by President Xi Jinping and as Britain seeks to boost its business ties with the world’s second-largest economy.

      READ MORE: Deals worth over US$46 billion to be signed during Chinese President Xi Jinping’s visit to UK

      Cameron’s spokeswoman told reporters the two would meet later on Monday and that Ma, currently executive chairman of the e-commerce company Alibaba, would be joining the prime minister’s business advisory group.

      The e-commerce boss will provide help and advice on how to get small and medium sized British businesses boosting their exports and gain access to Chinese markets through platforms like Alibaba.

      …………..even stranger still is ALIBABA UK?

      Just type in ALIBABA UK REVIEWS and what you will reveal is totally shocking.

      …………………yet this man who formed this company is now sitting on a uk advisory committee is beyond belief.

      Keep your eyes fixed on political donations to the Conservative party, as money t seem to override human rights breaches, especially in the uk.

      • AND LO AND BEHOLD, ADRIAN BEECROFT OF WONGA FAME, AND A MAJORITY DONOR TO CAMERON, IS ALSO AN ADVISOR TO THE ISRAELI PRIME MINSTER…………………………………

        In addition to Mr Beecroft, former consultants include the hawkishly right-wing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the would-be 45th President of the United States, Mitt Romney, now leading the Republican charge against Barack Obama.

        http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/revealed-how-adrian-beecroft-made-a-career-out-of-cutting-jobs-7789303.html

        During his time at Apax Mr Beecroft rode the wave of the private equity boom, becoming involved in a number of leveraged buyouts. These involve borrowing to fund a takeover and then loading the debt on to the company that has been taken over.

        Private equity firms also frequently borrow to fund the payment of dividends. Again, the companies they own, rather than their partners, pick up the tab.

        Initially most of the industry’s activities went under the radar, involving takeovers of relatively small and unloved companies in old and (then) unloved industries which could be restructured and sold on with little attention being paid.

        But as private equity grew and its targets got bigger – including firms the public had heard of, such as Yell, the owner of Yellow Pages, the fashion retailer New Look and the supermarket chain Somerfield – it was exposed to ever harsher scrutiny. And its activities were seldom cast in a favourable light.

        Somerfield is a classic example. A source at Usdaw, the shopworkers’ union, described Apax as “extremely difficult to deal with”. “To be honest we were glad when the Co-op turned in and we were rid of them,” they said.

        John Hannett, the general secretary, is similary blunt. After the takeover, he said, there was “a wholesale attack on workers’ terms and conditions” and Usdaw “very much welcomed the Co-Op Group’s takeover of the chain in 2008”.

        It is not only Apax’s treatment of workers that has proved controversial. So have the structures used to facilitate deals.

        When Apax teamed with Guardian Media Group to take control of the trade titles and events business of the publisher Emap, it was handled through an offshore vehicle located in the Cayman Islands. GMG has stated that the structure used was at the private equity company’s request.

        With incidences like this, and the struggles of debt-laden companies sold back to public investors through stockmarket flotations, increasingly drawing criticism in the media and in Parliament, Mr Beecroft was one of those who rose to the industry’s defence.

        He has been a leading figure in the British Venture Capital Association, and insisted, in a 2007 interview, that “we have nothing to hide”.

        Although he pooh-poohed suggestions of a personal fortune of between £50m and £100m, the estimate might not be far off. Mr Beecroft lives in a mansion in fashionable Hampstead, bought in 1999 for £2.26m and now estimated to be worth £6.4m. While colleagues have claimed that he is not flashy, he does own four ruinously expensive classic Aston Martins and is unashamed about his ambition to win a race at the Goodwood Revival festival.

        The use of such language suggests that, while he has complained about the personal attacks which have been coming his way, he might just be getting a taste for controversy. And not just through the support of his new venture, Dawn Capital, for the controversial payday lender Wonga.com.

        Having spent so many years in the obsessively secretive world of private equity, perhaps he is acquiring a taste for publicity too.

        That might prove to be something that Prime Minister David Cameron may yet have cause to regret, as his report and subsequently statements have threatened to undo his rebranding of the Tories, resurrecting the spectre of the “nasty party” all over again.

        ………………..Is there any wonder that Grant Shapps was recently in the Cayman Islands bolstering up the domain of so many tory tax dodgers?

        • paultheswineherd

          Geoff – This sounds like another ‘Robert Maxwell’ – another scheister that ran off with people’s hard earned money!

  113. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Anger at Cameron’s £100,000 trip to honour dead Saudi king

    Cost of visit to pay respects to King Abdullah sparks fury as it underlines links to kingdom amid human rights worries

    Guardian – 24th Oct 2015

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/24/cameron-trip-cost-saudi-arabia-king-death

    Transparency data

    Rt Hon David Cameron MP overseas travel, July 2014 to March 2015

    Published 15 October 2015

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/468379/Prime_Ministers_Overseas_Travel_July_2014_-_March_2015.csv/preview

    • paultheswineherd

      Stepping – thank for putting this on – where is the Taxpayer’s Alliance now I wonder? They should be speaking about this!

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Paul@ Seems like dodgy dave is sucking up to all the worlds Human Rights abusers for help with his Human Rights abuses for safety.

  114. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Tony Blair says sorry about mistakes going into Iraq

  115. Disabled man who killed himself over benefit cuts had attempted suicide before

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disabled-man-who-killed-himself-6699722

    • Shouldn’t be too long before a firm of uk solicitors picks up the gauntlet and challenge the Dwp on the subject of “issuance of fake medical reports with intent to decieve and gaining pecuniary advantage by deception”

      Several U.S. firms are chomping at the bit to expose DWP criminality that models itself on UNUM DISABILTY DENIAL TRIALS.

      The sooner the better, i would say ………………………..

      It’s just a matter of time before the tide turns and the uk law society accept they have been taken for mugs by Graylings meddling.

      The shit storm is upon us.but the commonality of phrasing used within medical reports used across the spectrum of disability denial dodgers will soon be headline news.

  116. “TICK BOX SOFTWARE”

    …….FEEDING THE DWP SUICIDE FRENZY

    The LiMA software assessment used by Atos Healthcare is a ‘tick box’ occupational health computer assessment and is designed and used for efficiency, not accuracy. This assessment tool is unacceptable for a comprehensive evaluation of any chronically sick and/or disabled person. The possible answers offered are limited in scope when compared to the possible variances of medical conditions and enormous range of possible physical disabilities. This type of software may be a useful tool in an occupational health department, for example, when confirming that staff are fit enough to consider certain work related activities if their fitness is in doubt; not their health. This would usually be carried out in a company, where the staff are considered to be fit enough to be at work, and not in a clinical assessment situation where the actual physical wellbeing of the patient is under consideration.

    Note however, that when you click one of the lists to open it, you may not find all the usual choices available to you. LiMA uses its database of logical rules to restrict the available choices to only those that fit the information you have already provided

    Curtailment of high scoring cases has been developed in conjunction with the Department for Work and Pensions as a way of reducing the time to complete lengthy cases where many activities are affected by multiple disabling conditions.

    Curtailment is managed automatically by LiMA and reduces the amount of justification required in high-scoring cases. Based on your choice of descriptors, LIMA will only ask you to justify those activities needed to comfortably exceed the benefit threshold, beginning with the activities with the greatest apparent functional loss. (For those parts of the assessment that are curtailed, LiMA will automatically insert an appropriate standard summary phrase into the printed report.)

    a sordid attempt to transfer the deaths of thousands of claimants onto a discredited software system………………

    Nothing more, nothing less, EXTERMINATION BY DETERMINATION………….

  117. DWP death data – full of holes.

    Shocking ‘back to work’ results for people claiming all kinds of sickness benefits in Great Britain over a 4 year period show that just 37,770 obtained a ‘job outcome’, whereas in just over a two year period over 81,000 people died whilst claiming sickness benefits between December 2011 and February 2014.

    http://ilegal.org.uk/thread/7258/serious-flaws-governments-statistics?page=24&scrollTo=23008

  118. paultheswineherd

    Whatever planet is this rich and priveleged ‘Lord Heseltine’ living on?
    Where are all these ‘jobs’ in the economy that he’s on about?

    http://www.aol.co.uk/news/2015/10/25/probably-as-good-a-time-as-any-for-steelworkers-to-lose-jobs–lord-heseltine/

    • Another Fine Mess

      Where are all these ‘jobs’ in the economy that he’s on about?

      Most of them appear to be unpaid in charity shops and social enterprises, are you suggesting the Gov’s claims of a ‘jobs miracle’ are not true?🙂

      • paultheswineherd

        Another Fine Mess – Yes, that’s true – I really feel sorry for all of those workers – thrown out and into the welcoming arms of JCP, the charity shops and Work Programme/Workfare ‘providers’.
        A lot of shite could be heading their way!

    • Another back door way for the tories to circumvent the neccessity of adhering to international rules.

      JEREMY WRIGHT Attorney General thought he would try to scupper international law by making this speech to the Conservative cabbages in the hopes of leaving the Human Rights and Geneva Convention far behind

      https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/the-importance-of-international-law-for-government-lawyers

      But not one MP gives a flying fuck about conflicts of interest
      In fact it is so blatant, each and every one of our MP’s and members of the lords should not be voting on any element of healthcare, each fulfilling a single wish to expand their investments and involvements……….

      Over two hundred members of the lords have links to healthcare and pharmaceuticals. A gentlemens club to advance the wallet……..

      The Guardian contains these comments;

      In a sharply-worded letter to the Guardian, Paul Jenkins claimed the obligation that ministers must comply with international law had caused “intense irritation” to David Cameron.

      Jenkins, who was the government’s most senior legal official from 2006 until he stepped down last year, is the most high-profile legal figure to raise the alarm over a rewrite of the ministerial code published last week.

      Until last Thursday, the ministerial code referred to an “overarching duty on ministers to comply with the law including international law and treaty obligations and to uphold the administration of justice”. The new version simply refers to a duty to comply with “the law”.

      Jenkins wrote: “It is disingenuous of the Cabinet Office to dismiss the changes to the ministerial code as mere tidying up.

      “TRY AND IMAGINE A UK WHERE NO POLITICAL FIGURE CAN FACE A CHARGE OF WAR CRIMES, DISABILITY DENIAL OR HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES?”

      ESPECIALLY AS THE CHILCOTT ENQUIRY MAY BE RELEASED AND THE DWP KILL AT WILL HIDING BEHIND OUR MONARCHS RECOMMENDED WELFARE REFORM BILL.

      AT THE SAME TME OUR GOVERNMENT ARE BEING INVESTIGATED FOR GROSS BREACHES OF HUMAN RIGHTS……………

      “THE TORIES ARE ATTEMPTING TO PLAY A “GET OUT OF JAIL FREE”, CARDI

      • ………..AND JUST BEFORE WE ENTER ANOTHER WAR TO BOLSTER THE BANKS AND WEAPONS MANUFACTURERS…………

        Remember, Banking loves war. It creates debt which in turn bolsters profits.

        That and the fact our politicians are all BENJAMIN NETANYAHUS PUPPETS, signed up to the “FRIENDS OF ISRAEL”

        ……….therfore putting our sevice personnel at risk to protect Israel.

        “Whether the new wording alters the legal obligations of ministers or not, there can be no doubt that they will regard the change as bolstering, in a most satisfying way, their contempt for the rule of international law.”

        The Cabinet Office has insisted that the code was clear on the need to comply with the law, including international law.

        However, some lawyers believe the change signals a “marked shift” in the UK government’s respect for the rule of law, which they say is particularly concerning at a time when the UK is expanding its use of lethal force abroad.

        http://www.theguardian.com/law/2015/oct/26/ministerial-code-no-10-showing-contempt-for-international-law

      • “WHY WOULD THE TORIES TRY TO SLIP OUT OF THIS LITTLE LOT?”

        Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works
        Convention on Biological Diversity
        Convention on the Rights of the Child
        Crime against international law
        Declaration of war
        Directive on harmonising the term of copyright protection
        EU Copyright Directive
        European Union law
        European Company Statute
        General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade
        Geneva Conventions
        History of public international law
        Human Rights Committee
        International copyright
        International Court of Justice
        International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia
        International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda
        International Criminal Court
        International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights
        International Covenant on Economic, Social, and Cultural Rights
        International human rights law
        International humanitarian law
        International judicial institutions
        International Prize Court
        International trade law
        Laws of war
        List of treaties
        Madrid Agreement
        Notable UN General Assembly Resolutions
        Permanent Court of Arbitration
        Refugees
        Treaty of Maastricht
        UN Economic and Social Council
        United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees
        United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East
        United Nations System
        Universal Copyright Convention
        WIPO Copyright Treaty
        WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty
        World Health Organization
        World Intellectual Property Organization
        World Trade Organization

        • @GEOFF
          Perhaps why the Dwp refuse to answer this Freedom of Information Request.

          From: Shona Scott

          9 September 2015

          Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

          Assessments are carried out on behalf of the department to see if
          people are fit for work.
          Please tell me who carries out these assessments, how many people
          they interview and how many were found fit for work in 2011, 2012,
          2013 and 2014.

          Please provide any guidelines issued for these assessments

          Please give the minimum medical qualifications of the people who
          carry out these assessments for them to be valid

          Yours faithfully,

          Shona Scott

          Link to this
          https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fit_for_work_2#incoming-723991

  119. How about Honouring David Clapson and other Victims in Great Britain ?

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System | October 25, 2015 at 12:39 pm | Reply

    Anger at Cameron’s £100,000 trip to honour dead Saudi king

    Cost of visit to pay respects to King Abdullah sparks fury as it underlines links to kingdom amid human rights worries

    Guardian – 24th Oct 2015

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/24/cameron-trip-cost-saudi-arabia-king-death

    Transparency data

    Rt Hon David Cameron MP overseas travel, July 2014 to March 2015

    Published 15 October 2015

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/468379/Prime_Ministers_Overseas_Travel_July_2014_-_March_2015.csv/preview

  120. OT: Tax Credits Losers According to IFS

    (h-t to Refuted)

    http://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/7975

    “national minimum wage for those aged 25 and over, which the Chancellor described as a new “National Living Wage” (NLW).

    If the NLW were to have no effect on GDP, employment or hours of work it would offset 27% of the drop in household incomes from the impact of net tax and benefit reforms. In fact, as the Office for Budget Responsibility stresses, the NLW is likely to depress GDP and employment, and the money for it has to come from somewhere so this can be taken as a “better case” scenario, at least in the short term.

    The new NLW offers such little compensation because the boost to gross wages is smaller than the announced fiscal tightening and almost one-third of the increase in gross wages goes to the Treasury in higher tax receipts and lower benefits and tax-credit entitlements.

    Among the 8.4 million working age households who are currently eligible for benefits or tax credits who do contain someone in paid work the average loss from the cuts to benefits and tax credits is £750 per year. Among this same group the average gain from the new NLW, is estimated at £200 per year (in a “better case” scenario). This suggests that those in paid work and eligible for benefits or tax credits are, on average, being compensated for 26% of their losses from changes to taxes, tax credits and benefits through the new NLW.

    The average losses from tax and benefit changes in deciles 2, 3 and 4 of the household income distribution are £1,340, £980 and £690 per year, respectively. These same groups are estimated to gain £90, £120 and £160 from the new NLW (again on a “better case” scenario). This suggests that a “better case” estimate of the compensation these groups are receiving is 7%, 13% and 24% respectively, on average.

    There may be strong arguments for introducing the new NLW, but it should not be considered a direct substitute for benefits and tax credits aimed at lower income households.”

    So:
    – I was wrong to say NLW was not legislated its rebranding Nat.Mim.Wage [a bit like the rubbish about apprenticeships being a Brand perhaps?]
    – This will effect 8mil people not the 3mil being touted about.
    – NLW will only compensate for 26% of losses, rest gone to Tax office
    – The announced cuts costs to the claimant are clearly understated [how much is anyones guess but I’d say double the figures being touted around, this lot of ConCons don’t do things by halves do they?]
    – No one is putting out figure for cost of living increases & impacts etc [i wonder why?]

    Another fine mess by GidIdiot the Wankie Worm

  121. When a nation has to depend on its unelected House of Lords for redemption, whilst the tories quote a law from 1641 in their defence you know you are in the wrong country – what a fucking sham

      • Mc Broon And The Ink Cartridges

        obd
        Get real! Labour don’t just want the tax credit cuts just as much as the Tories, the want then even more; it is imperative for Labour to realise their goal that these cuts go through.

        It was all part of the Masterplan when McBroon introduced them. Lower wages to get the workers used to accepting lower rates of pay but at the same time top them up with tax credits so that the net effect in household income was zero, or even an increase.

        Once the workers became ‘hooked’ them slowly ‘wean’ them off tax credits. But now you have left by the short and curlies as you have made sure that wages are so suppressed they have no where to run and will just have to accept the intended drop in income. Clever, eh…😉

        Don’t see why people didn’t see this coming years ago.

  122. I posted this elsewhere on another website……….
    For all those who think the Upper Chamber has done any real damage to the NEW NAZIS…..here are a few thoughts on what actually Labour 300 a day dudes have given you, in failing to support the Lib Dem vote…..
    Those presently on Tax Creds will be protected (and only if Regime goes along with it, they might not)…….
    But anyone who becomes eligible for the Credits, and that is from tonight…..YES THIS VERY NIGHT, take note everybody, will have those cuts put thru immediately!
    Anyone still on the Credits will have the cuts later, but pay for them thru deductions on Universal Credit.
    The total amount of cuts will actually be more than what Giddy originally planned.
    This is what Labour has given us. The anti austerity party. Who will now support every other New Nazi social security policy. After all, John McDonnell said so himself.
    Labour have destroyed themselves here. Dunno what the hell Corbyn is playing at, but it is fast proving to be more inept then Miliband…..and that would take some beating!
    Very, very disappointing indeed. We hoped for better as well.

    • and don’t forget, they’re still killing disabled people

    • Conditions have been/are being put on to ‘council tax support’ – new claimants of, who are ‘job seekers’. Not if someone already receives council tax support/a claim is up and running. Info sent out in a friendly-sounding leaflet and letter & a package from the council here regarding additional ‘support/help’ being offered – in addition to JCP. You don’t need to agree this package of support, but if you don’t …. you revert to paying full council tax. You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to/wouldn’t do anyway but … etc. etc.

      Is there no end to the madness? No, it seems not.

      As above, with the tax credit ‘protections/additional support for those who need it most …’ etc. the new council tax hoop-to-jump-through applies ‘from now on’ & if a break in JSA has occurred, that comes within this category.

      The ‘W’ monster is on the sides of buses here – bigger than life, scaring children & adults alike & Hard to Avoid.

      • *Conditions come into force after a six-month period of ‘grace’.

        • It’s all gone quiet over there…………..
          Or has it?
          Gordon’s right Shirleynott, the scumbags are trying to worm their way out of paying us plebs, whatever the uprising.
          Trying to resurrect laws that date back to 1641, like Jeremy said, is an act of sheer desperation.
          What new thrilling instalment awaits us Shirl, microchipping or electric shock collars, penal servitude, rock busting or mandatory work for profit hungry supermarket chains?

          One thing is for sure, the pasty faced vampire has had a crucifix shoved into his smug clock.

          Nothing will change, bandying words will never recover the money that will be eventually stolen from those who need it most.

          Soon there will be another gun and knife amnesty. The police so desperate to avert the oncoming bloodbath of a civil uprising.

          Strangely the guys are stocking up on hardware, ready for the big chill.

          Never have i seen so many unauthorised firearms and hand weapons in the public domain, it’s as though the stand off is on the cusp of ignition.

          We all know what rioting brings, yet the tories are willing to pit police and army against the people. As though history is to be repeated once again…….

          The politicians will not be fielding any fighters, like Iraq, Afghanistan, THE SANCTITY OF THE LEATHER SEATS OF WESTMINSTER WILL ENSURE THEIR SAFETY.

          Dead cops, dead rioters, dead demonstrators and dead civilians………

          All in a day’s work for the parties of the new holocaust…….

          • overburdenddonkey

            the difference is geoff we in scotland still trust each other……
            https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-people-versus-carmichael#/updates and have a wicked sense of humour as carmichael swears an oath on our bible the ‘wee blue book’….

          • Hi Geoff, whilst watching the odious cunt philip davies respond to a 10 minute rule bill brought by SNP to stop sanctions and review – he’s in favour of more onerous sanctions, possibly people dying on the job isn’t good enough for him – heard comment about this tory scum government planning on stopping all central funding to local councils as soon as … tits – up – comes to mind!!

        • … There is now a giant ‘pincer’ movement in play. So people can be ‘boxed in’ and so one way, or another … – to quote Blondie.

  123. wordpress is shit

    wordpress is a pile shit

  124. Osbourne has been defeted for now over tax credits but………brace yourselves he’s a spitefull vindictive pityfull inadaquate public school boy he and his ….chums…..will be plotting a revenge …..more than likely on the poorest and most vulnerable……bullys never take on the strong ….the mentality of a dispicable little runt like Osbourne is for revenge he like Cameron,Johnson,IDs will be a vengefull sore. Loser ….so people brace yourselves and watchout for each other.

    • overburdenddonkey

      not true, rather have been facilitated…

    • A sham performance by ham actors chasing the same goal while trying to look concerned.
      Nothing more, nothing less…………….

      The only reason they turn up is for the £300 per day attendance allowance.

      As much in tune with the poverty of the lower castes as Julie Andrews is to Deep Throat……………

      • Lord and Lady Muck

        @ GEOFF

        £300 a day equates to an MPs salary! But is is paid DAILY which means the Lords & Ladies have to attend DAILY (or get another Peer to punch their card*) unlike an MP who is on a SALARY – BIG, BIG distinction!

        And it is quite possibly the case that they have to ‘clock-in’ by a certain time. Are they really going to travel into the House of Lords to ‘clock in’ and leave immediately? Like Euro MPs do on a Friday!

        If you watch BBC Parliament the Lords is pretty busy most of time. It is standing-room only at time. And they do have debates with very long-winded and detailed speeches.

        Of they can be seen to nod off at times, but come off it, everyone nods off when they reach a certain age.

        Not that any of this justifies their existence or lack of one way or the other. Although Wee Nicola up in Jockland appears to hate them with a passion. Maybe angling for a peerage…😉 Lady Sturgeon of Jockland?🙂

        * Notice that you can see a lot of them wearing security passes on a lanyard although none of them look remotely like terrorist bombers lol

        • The lords voted with the strivers because they believe there is a distinction between skivers and strivers and they put themselves in the striver capacity, even though they are long past their sell by date for work.
          They voted against government policy not because it is wrong, (it is also wrong to sanction benefits but they didn’t vote against that), but because they want to keep themselves and their second chamber in a life to which they are accustomed.

          The first chamber should be abolished never mind the second one.

          Now we are told if we come out of Europe we still have to pay into it so that ex prime ministers have somewhere else to feather their nest if the Lords gets abolished.

  125. Musicals millionaire Lord Lloyd-Webber votes to cut tax credits for the poor after flying in from New York

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/musicals-millionaire-lord-lloyd-webber-6713290

  126. Another Fine Mess

    What is the current state of the UK economy?
    By Andrew Walker BBC World Service economics correspondent

    “The other side of that equation is that unemployment in the UK is low at 5.4% of the labour workforce. That means people who want to work and have made an effort to find work.”

    Yeah, they’re not making enough effort are they, cheeky bugger.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-34621440

    • and Michael Heseltwat has been diagnosed with dementia……..

      • “NURSE EMMA BRODRICK (ATOS) DISAGREES WITH DWP STATEMENT”

        According to Atos gold digger, nurse Emma Brodrick, writing on my medical report;

        “The evidence does not suggest the client has a condition which means there would be a substantial risk to the mental or physical health of any person if they were found capable of work or work related activity.
        The available evidence suggests that a return to work could be considered within 3 months………………………

        YET 2380 ARE KNOWN TO HAVE DIED AND THE DWP GAVE THESE COMMENTS ON A REPORT FUELLED BY THE DEATH OF MICHAEL BRENDAN O’SULLIVAN.

        PART 31.

        A decision that a claimant does not have Limited Capability for work, or Limited Capability for Work Related Activity, is colloquially referred to as a decision that the claimant is “FIT FOR WORK”. However, what this actually means is that the claimant does not meet the functional descriptors set out in the ESA Regulations for LCA or LCWRA.
        IT DOES NOT REPRESENT A FINDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE CLAIMANT IS EMPLOYABLE OR WHETHER THE CLAIMANT WILL BE ABLE TO FIND WORK.

        DWP FORMER AWARD/ DISABLED FOR LIFE………….
        NURSE EMMA BRODRICK’S SCORE/ ZERO POINTS AWARDED………

      • … but Michael ‘Tarzan’ Heseltine, he of the infamous House of Commons Mace brandishing incident where he nearly chopped the Speaker’s head off has always been demented…😀

  127. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Oh no a witch hunt for working people scrounging off the welfare state. A class system of scroungers. Of course the disabled are the worst scroungers & have no class.

  128. I have leukaemia and worrying about benefit cuts is making me sicker
    Stacie Lewis

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/27/leukaemia-benefit-cuts-sicker-work-poverty

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      The answer is get a job then your leukaemia will be cured so you don`t have to think about it anymore.

      DWP Advice.

  129. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    I have a cold at the moment & am trying to get it cured by Atos & Maximus since they can cure any illness. Does the work coach want a cold as well.

  130. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Disability benefit cuts will actually make it harder for disabled people to find work, coalition of 60 charities warns

    The charities have called on the Government to reverse sharp cuts to the Employment and Support allowance payment

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/disability-benefit-cuts-will-actually-make-it-harder-for-disabled-people-to-find-work-coalition-of-a6710646.html

  131. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    ESA is paid to people with disabilities and illnesses in part to to cover additional costs they might face finding employment or in their day-to-day lives.

    Wrong – ESA is pain to disabled people who in the eyes of the DWP are able bodied & can find a job & cure their disability that never existed in the first place.

  132. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    ESA was always been a working benefit – Incapacity Benefit. FRAUD.

  133. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Work yourself out of poverty & work yourself out of being disabled.

    Not a very good confidence Tricks it`s Flawed.

  134. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

  135. This site is shit now!

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Why – Too much truth. Or perhaps you still believe in politics !!

      • “HELPING THE DISABLED A DWP MYTH”

        More jobcentre recordings: We can’t help disabled claimants at this jobcentre. You’ll have to go elsewhere

        In the recording below, an adviser at a north London jobcentre actually tells me that advisers at this jobcentre can’t give extra jobsearch help or support to the disabled claimant who I’m with. The adviser doesn’t try to pretend otherwise. He says that the jobcentre can’t help this disabled man, because there are no Disability Employment Advisers at this jobcentre now (DEAs are advisers who are meant to have additional skills and time for disabled benefit claimants). Nobody else at the jobcentre can give the man extra support. The adviser said that the man’s only choice was to move jobcentres to one that does still have specialist disability advisers. That was the end of that. So much, I thought, for the DWP’s claims to me by recent email that disabled benefit claimants can expect “tailored support specific to their individual needs,” at jobcentres. These DWP claims of “tailored support” for disabled JSA claimants are rot as far as I’m concerned – as great a lie as the DWP’s use of fake benefit claimants and quotes in leaflets. It seems to me that when the DWP talks about “tailored support” for disabled claimants at jobcentres, the DWP pretends to offer a service that it does not.

        http://www.katebelgrave.com/2015/10/more-jobcentre-recordings-we-cant-help-disabled-claimants-at-this-jobcentre-youll-have-to-go-elsewhere/

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          “””The reason given? – this jobcentre no longer had a Disability Employment Adviser to provide that sort of support,”””

          I saw that article in one of the local papers yesterday. Can`t seem to find it.

        • Recruitment Consultant

          @ GEOFF

          We all know where that application form is heading – the round filing cabinet in the corner.

          It is a piss-take on the jobseeker if the job centre are allowing this to pass for a job application!!

        • exactly what they said to me Geoff on more than one occasion and through many of their private enterprises did they repeat they could not offer help to do with my disabilities, they only will give help they give to everyone, they will not help people overcome barriers to work, they just think of getting the easiest people into work then they can collect a bigger bonus.

    • Just what do you believe in SRSPS other than the sound of your own voice the amount of times you post on here, none of which explains your take on anything – truth, you wouldn’t know the truth if it knocked you down.

  136. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Simple words for simple people.

  137. why isn’t osborne stripping existing esa claimants of £30, rather than just new esa claimants?

    • “CROWN PERSECUTION SERVICE”

      The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) just attempted to prosecute a woman over a sticker placed on a window, even though she didn’t put the sticker there herself – in a bid to all but outlaw peaceful protest in Britain.

      It all started with a protest about ‘poor doors’. When Dr Lisa McKenzie, a research fellow at the London School of Economics, heard that a block of luxury flats had installed separate entrances for its less wealthy tenants, she was pretty disgusted. To her, segregated entrances smacked of the kind of unequal, class-based society of which she wanted no part. So she attended a protest about it. During that protest, someone put a small sticker on the window of one of the flats.

      Two weeks later, the CPS charged Dr McKenzie with criminal damage, claiming that the sticker caused £50 of damage – although this £50 was entirely hypothetical as a builder had simply pulled the sticker off the window. Furthermore, they had no evidence that Dr McKenzie actually put the sticker on the window either. Instead, they sought to use ‘joint enterprise’ – a law put in place to deal with drug and gang offences – to try her.

      http://www.thecanary.co/2015/10/26/our-country-just-tried-to-jail-a-woman-over-a-sticker-in-a-bid-to-outlaw-peaceful-protest-video/

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      When one part of society has different rules for the same thing. Equality is a word best forgotten.

    • Give Ozzy time, sian👿👿 Is is not that case that ESA claimants are regularly ‘booted off’ ESA and have to make a new claim?

    • Anyway, nobody has ever explained why an ESA claimant with say, “depression” needs £30 a week more than a JSA claimant? Surely a JSA claimant on a much reduced income would be more “depressed”. There should really be an actual real and genuine need why they need the extra money, if say someone had to by incontinence pads, then fair enough. But an above the board increase just sound stupid. ESA could be scrapped and those with a genuine need to given extra money for their ‘extras’.

      • overburdenddonkey

        ozi
        one can be on assessment rate for a very long time….it is more costly when one is sick and disabled and jsa is paid @ a very low rate as is eandsa… http://www.coe.int/t/dghl/monitoring/socialcharter/Conclusions/State/UKXX2_en.pdf see article 12, The Committee concludes that the situation in United Kingdom is not in conformity with Article 12§1 of the Charter on the ground that: the minimum levels of short-term and long-term incapacity benefit is manifestly inadequate; the minimum level of state pension is manifestly inadequate; the minimum level of job seeker’s allowance is manifestly inadequate…

        • obd
          You haven’t answered the question! Nobody was arguing anything other than the rates of JSA, ESA and pensions are manifestly inadequate. The question was why does an ESA claimant arbitrarily need more money than a JSA claimant? To save administration costs? Surely it can’t be fair and just to award a claimant extra money without enquiring if they have a need for extra money over and above what JSA would pay?

          • Or put another way: why does being on ESA equate to incurring automatically extra expenses? Nobody, nobody ever gives a satisfactory answer to this!

            • overburdenddonkey

              the questioner is showing a profound lack of knowledge of the system and yet @ the same time implying by what they’re asking a knowledge of the system…therefore i see you as a TROLL…bye….

              • obd
                Why can’t you answer a reasonable question without coming out with the “TROLL” mantra. Because you have no answer! All you are doing is proving the point! Pas de touche! Bye!

                • overburdenddonkey

                  once again you have proved my intellectual capacity to suss out and spot EL troll….bye…

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Sounds like a LIMA tick box system to fit around a reasoning that is full of contradictions.

                • The Questioner

                  obd
                  You are beyond pathetic!

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ps i saw the 1st post as from ozi a troll and answered it accordingly….ie without going into to great detail as it would end up with me posting for ages and you never admitting you’re wrong and then you change your name and start arguments all over again under a different guise…..bye….

                • The Questioner

                  obd
                  I’ve read Ozi’s post – you have avoided the question completely!

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  i will try and answer your question.
                  I URINATE INVOLUNTARY DURING THE DAY AND DURING THE NIGHT.
                  I SPEND AROUND EIGHT QUID PER WEEK ON CHILDRENS HUGGIES NAPPIES THAT I SPLIT IN HALF TO TRY AND SAVE MONEY.
                  MY WASHING MACHINE IS ALWAYS ON WASHING MY BEDDING WHERE I LEAK OUT.
                  CERTAIN FOODS BRING ON BOUTS OF ARTHRITIS SO I HAVE TO BUY MORE EXPENSIVE FOODS.
                  I DRAG MY LEFT LEG AND MY SHOES WEAR OUT MORE QUICKLY THAN AN ABLE BODIED PERSON.
                  BECAUSE I CANNOT HOLD MY URINE I OBVIOUSLY WET MY UNDERCLTHES AND TROUSERS AND I HAVE TO BUY CLOTHING MORE OFTEN BECAUSE THEY ROT AWAY.
                  I GO THROUGH WASHING DETERGENT AT AN ALARMING RATE.
                  IN WINTER THE NEED TO PUT THE HEATING ON BECOMES MORE APPARENT AS MY JOINTS BEGIN TO ACHE.
                  BECAUSE I WET MYSELF MY GROIN AREA IS PRONE TO THRUSH LIKE INFECTIONS AND HAVE TO BUY SPECIAL CREAMS.
                  TOILET PAPER IS USED MORE, DRYING MYSELF DOWN AND BATHING SORES AT THE TOP OF MY LEGS.
                  I USE AN INDUSTRIAL TENS MACHINE TO TRY AND EASE THE PAINS IN MY LOWER BACK, MORE ELECTRICITY IS USED AS I OFTEN HAVE TO LAY FOR HOURS.

                  SADLY I DONT EVEN GET ESA, ATOS NURSE EMMA BRODRICK TOOK AWAY MY LIFETIME BENEFITS BY WRITING A CORRUPTED MEDICAL REPORT.

                  MY INCOME IS JUST £3360 PER WEEK AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE THE DWP STOLE MY MEAGRE INCOME 27 MONTHS AGO.

                  IF YOU DO NOT NOW REALISE WHY A DISABLED PERSON NEEDS EXTRA MONEY, TRY TAKING A WALK OUTSIDE CONSERVATIVE CENTRAL OFFICE AND SEE THE REAL WORLD …………………….

                  MY HEATING HAS NOT BEEN ON FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS

                  PS I PAY ALL MY PRESCRIPTIONS AND DENTAL BILLS AND I WORKED ALL HOURS TILL AN INDUSTRIAL ACCIDENT TOOK AWAY MY DIGNITY. AND THE FUNCTIONS TO OPERATE AS A “NORMAL” HUMAN BEING.

                  IF YOU SEE ME STRUGGLING, JUST BARGE PAST ME, SPIT ON ME AND INSULT ME AS IT SEEMS THAT I AM NOT WORTHY OF THE LIFE THAT WAS TRAGICALLY TAKEN FROM ME………………..

                • OBD

                  “Once again you have sussed out my intellectual incapacity to suss out el troll”?
                  It took you long enough to say goodbye to el Maria.

              • obd
                Then why can you use you vast knowledge of the system to answer a simple question?

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Give it a rest questioner that is why you are called question – Idiot.

                • SRSPR

                  Idiot is an anagram of ‘I DO IT’, and those called such usually are asking the right questions or speaking the truth, something you are not capable of Mr disability hate crime mouthpiece.

          • And at the end of the day, there has to be, just has to be claimants on ESA receiving significantly more money than JSA claimants with exactly the same living expenses. Can anyone argue with this? Seriously!

            • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

              Confused – It`s the way you put it like you have no knowledge of the Welfare State.

            • Or as the case may be lower, significantly lower particularly if they have the support of friends/family. Get the feeling that they are lot of ESA claimants being hit by the hard realisation that the gravy train is hitting the buffers, and as always they hide under the coat-tails of ESA claimants who really do have serious illnesses. And of course Georgie has employed the old ‘divide-and-rule’ tactic of continuing with the higher rates for existing claimants. So now it definitely will be the case of claimants in exactly the same circumstances receiving significantly different rates of benefits.

              • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                Seems you have never heard of sanctions !!!

                • The Questioner

                  We are talking about absolute rates of benefits. You are still not answering the question!

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Sanctions fall under absolute rates.

                • The Questioner

                  We are not talking about sanctions! Any in any case an ESA sanction doesn’t bring the ESA claimants income down to less than a JSA claimant. You are not on ESA by any chance SRSPS?

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  You ain`t got a clue with that last statement – really sanctions don`t bring the money down –

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  The Questionaire – You are a bully & if we don`t answer your questions you treat us like crap on your shoe – Answer None of your bizzness what I am on. Perhaps I am on common sense.

                • The Questioner

                  SRSPS
                  So a sanctioned ESA claimant doesn’t receive any less money?! Pardon my ignorance of the system.

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Sanctioned can mean you get no money.

                • The Questioner

                  So a sanctioned ESA claimant can be left with no money?!

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Am I a disabled parrot or just open to disability hate crime from a tory troll !!!!

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Is there an ECHO !!!!

                • Trolls are like busses you don’t see one for ages, then a load of them come at once, in this case they all have the same driver.

            • It is JSA that needs to be increased not benefits for the disabled decreased, because those that have the greatest need get a higher rate of DLA than those with only mild disabilities already.

              Osborne knows he has scored a home goal with his attack on tax credits so he is looking for other victims to rob so that he can give tax relief to the rich – higher tax thresholds does not help those who are not paid enough to pay tax or are reliant on tax credits, so all of his talk on reducing taxes is for his own followers and recipients, which includes mp’s from every party.

              • If the government are looking for ways to save money then let them stop all parliamentary expenses in both houses.

                If a tradesman has to work out of town or abroad, he has to pay his own fares, living accommodation etc., out of his income therefore mp’s should pay it out of their salaries.

    • Probably because he’s seen yet another opportunity to divide the groups affected. He wants those on JSA to hate those on ESA WRAG and those on ESA WRAG to hate those in the Support Group.

      Despite so many thinking that it’s a total fucking breeze living on ESA, it really isn’t.

  138. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Tory Minds

    Why don`t those fucking disabled, unemployed & unemployable stop writing, we tried the talking bullshit & that didn`t work. What else do we have to do to get rid of the scroungers fucking up our plans.

    Now now Tories use your education instead of being thick & stupid.

  139. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Politics & politicians give Disability Hate Crime to the disabled.

  140. Now,obd everytime I make any comment on here you counter with a snyd little remark and its not the first time you do it to others also……………….you obviously know so much more than every one else ……………lol

    • If obd can’t ‘defend their position’ without resorting to snide remarks they have simply lost the argument.

    • overburdenddonkey

      no i’ve not made a snide remark merely posted the truth…

      • overburdenddonkey

        ps damo to my knowledge that’s the 1st time i’ve ever posted back to you in that manner…’not true, rather have been facilitated…’ and it’s not snidy…you’ll be able to show example of where i posted back to you in a snidy manner, then of course…??

  141. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    LOL obd your pissing off all the tory trolls – LOL

  142. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Shame the Tory Trolls can`t read on understand the basics of reading rather than being lazy readers.

  143. You thought the tax credit cuts were cruel? See what Osborne is doing to the sick and disabled

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/you-thought-tax-credit-cuts-6714663#rlabs=49%20p$5

    • Hard-working Taxpayer

      @ Stepping
      Since when did asking a simple question become ‘Disability Hate Crime’? You gonna call the cops? This is the sort of distorted thinking we expect from the DWP. You are WORSE than those you accuse!

      Good luck to Osborne is slashing your benefits to the bone!

    • questioner, please see my reply posted above.

      £33.60 p the life of RILEY

      • overburdenddonkey

        geoff
        sian posted a link from the mirror that explains why people with sickness and disabilities are paid more…it is so childishly obvs why, only trouble makers would ask such a rude and intrusive question….

      • Which is £1747.20p per year.
        No christmas bonus, no tinsel, no heating, inadequate diet but plenty of pain and suffering.

        Would you like to swop roles for just one day?

        • Like i always say, i welcome all discriminatory comments as it is proof that someones cage is being rattled, as were the tories last night……..

        • That’s terrible Geoff, I don’t think your worthless though, your a victim and so am I. Lets hope this Tory nonsense comes to an end soon.

          • overburdenddonkey

            it’s not going to come to an end anytime soon maria…

            • maybe not OBD, but as I have learned recently, it is better to have hope that it will end soon, than be with out:)

              • overburdenddonkey

                no, hope is a cruel/can be master…hope in some situations are ok like i hope they’ll be some bargains @ the food shop etc…but in situations where ones very existence depends on others, not so…be realistic, know whats out there, whats actually going on, be as best equipped as one can be and act accordingly… ie appeal sanctions etc….

                • I never appealed I just left before they could sanction me, after 8 years of misery on what was more reasonable JSA, when labour was in, it was still hell, having so many rejections was enough a alone to kill a person and a waste of part of my life, I couldn’t go through that again and have all the extra hassle on top, so I stopped going. The charity may end one day and I may find my self on the street, but I will still have hope, even when all else is lost, but my existence does truly depend on others, I have become like a child, live like a child, in terms of finance of course. I don’t really have a choice in that. But if I had just had the right help, I may well have been financially dependent by now, but if not I may have had a level playing field with everyone else. But yes people should appeal if they can, I’ve just had enough of them and the endless job search myself. I used to think hope was cruel, but then it’s not hope at all, its despair that’s the cruel beast.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  but i bet it was hope that dropped you in the shit in the 1st place, and not certain knowledge of what’s really out there..?

                • Living in hope is like dancing without music🙂

                • OBD it was an uncaring society that dropped me in the shit, I wouldn’t let me be a part of it because I am a bit different. I had hope and been without and hope is better. Maestro You can dance without music perfectly well, because it is always in your head, and so you can live and carry on with hope in your mind. Nowt shakes my hope any more:) But yeah you do have to fight things as well, its no use hoping and doing nothing, but you can fight in more ways than one, And my weapon is the pen.:)

                • Japanese Samurai Warrior

                  The pen is mightier than the sword🙂

                • JSW of course In many places you have to leave your sword at the door, but the pen gains better access; and strikes an heavier blow.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  maria
                  it is knowledge that is power, not hope…
                  but in the case of tories red and blue hope of change anytime soon is pointless, which brings us back to the original point i made to you…you were able to escape a hostile system…and you post to gain info as you’ve already said…the sword of truth shall set you free…live in hope and we get manipulated, and dropped in the shit by words and deeds of others…and as you say, ‘ But yeah you do have to fight things as well, its no use hoping and doing nothing, but you can fight in more ways than one, And my weapon is the pen.:)’ so even you see hope as a small fraction of the function of survival…

                • OBD we have obviously found different ways in which to survive, yours works for you but hope is a big factor in my life, I was doing things before, I was as writing when I didn’t have hope, but it wasn’t getting me as far as I would be without hope. we’ll have to disagree on this one, I think:)

                • overburdenddonkey

                  no! agree to disagree is crap, maria…you had other options that you were able to take and took them, many others don’t have those…always think of the most disadvantaged…
                  i don’t hold with behaviourism nor behaviourists….
                  there is no hope in our needs, those needs MUST be met or we all suffer….
                  i post to paint the bigger (inclusive) picture as far as i am able to, from my own experiences of recovery from CSA/CA and of our toxic system…
                  i think about what will do it for all ie a UBI, scrapping conditionality, sanctions, eandsa, the WCA and building millions of eco homes….reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life for all, is a MUST….for many hope for it is just another word for lottery….and for others, hope is another word for certainty…

                • OBD I am not saying that we can’t physically survive on hope, without having access to clean water and shelter, and all the other social needs. I’m not talking about whether we live or die determines on hope, when you hope I was referring to more spiritual needs. And we need to fight for peoples rights, yes but in terms of physically doing things I am not much use in those respects, my talents lie in arguing for the need to look after the disadvantaged, the need that looking after each other is a better than looking after ones self. I am disadvantaged in this world, not in all ways, and my life isn’t in grave danger at the moment, it still has the potential to be in the future. I believe hope motivates people, it motivates me anyway. Everyone is different I am merely saying that we must use the tools that help us get along in life. I can understand why people despair, I’ve been there myself. It works for me.

          • Cheers, my dear….

            • “WHAT HAVE DUNKO’S CLOWNS GOT TO HIDE?”
              ………everything it seems;

              From: Shona Scott

              9 September 2015

              Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

              Assessments are carried out on behalf of the department to see if
              people are fit for work.
              Please tell me who carries out these assessments, how many people
              they interview and how many were found fit for work in 2011, 2012,
              2013 and 2014.

              Please provide any guidelines issued for these assessments

              Please give the minimum medical qualifications of the people who
              carry out these assessments for them to be valid

              Yours faithfully,

              Shona Scott
              https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fit_for_work_2#incoming-723991

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Like it – Johnny Rotten – Great Entertainer.

  144. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – That’s awful what they have done to you – and how they have made you suffer so needlessly. I just so wish that Emma Brodrick could be properly be brought to book for apparrently fraudulent behaviour – this is definitely not right that she can get away with all of this. The WCA has been and is continuing to be a complete disaster – especially it seems for people with long term, as well as mental health conditions. Although I am no fan of the House of Loungers & Scroungers, last night, they did have some success with the tax credits issue. However, I have a strong feeling that Gideon/Cameron are going to come up with some way of circumventing it. Probably by giving that cunt IDS even more of a ‘wink’ to further attack the poor/vulnerable/sick/disabled. Before too long I’d have thought that IDS would have to have his ‘personal security’ increased even more than it is now. What a right cruel shower of Nazi shite the Tories now are – Bastards.
    And Stepping, Maria & Overburdenddonkey – yes indeed!

    • Paul it’s seems now they are alienating everyone, except their friends of course, if you give them enough rope they may well hang themselves.

    • overburdenddonkey

      paul
      http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-abstainers-ride-again/
      this is what actually happened… ‘In other words, rather than the cuts having been stopped and the Tories being forced into an incredibly controversial and difficult gerrymandering of the second chamber:- Anyone who becomes eligible for tax credits from now on will suffer the cuts immediately, without any three-year “protection”.- Anyone already on tax credits will still suffer the cuts, but they’ll pay them through reductions in Universal Credit rather than tax credits.- The total final amount of cuts will actually be HIGHER than those planned by the Conservatives. We fully expect that spontaneous demonstrations and rallies from low-paid workers cheering Labour’s heroic intervention are breaking out in the streets even as we type this, as the grateful poor celebrate losing more money in a slightly different way to the one originally proposed. We’re off out for a look.’
      red and blue tories are culpable….
      the WCA is doing exactly what it is designed to do, and should be scrapped…but it can be beaten in appeal, there is a need for more grassroots support/advocacy groups….. http://edinburghagainstpoverty.org.uk/node/5
      ‘The Work Capability Assessment….designed to cut your benefits through trickery, but read on to learn how, with advice and support, you can get what you are entitled to.’

  145. “WHY ALL THE DEATHS ARE BECOMING RATHER EMBARRASSING FOR DUNKO THE CLOWN PRINCE”

    From: Trudy Baddams

    25 September 2015

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    how many people have been found fit
    for work under the work capability assessment who had submitted an
    appeal against that decision and subsequently died prior to the
    appeal being heard.

    Yours faithfully,
    Mrs Data Buddy
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/how_many_people_have_been_found#incoming-723961

  146. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System
    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      9.41am
      09:41

      Duncan Smith says there are 750,000 vacancies in job centres.

      The key priority now is to help people progress in work, he says, not to help them get into work in the first place.

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Contradiction.

      • SRSPS you know when I was looking on there again I think it were two years ago now I was looking everyday for more than two months and every two weeks the same jobs came up in exactly the same businesses, the wage was the same, the contact details were the same. at first I thought, maybe they didn’t find who they wanted. No these were made up jobs, so that’s at least 50,000 true vacancies I think. And do you not think its funny that no matter how many migrants they let into the country there is still all these jobs available? And if their are all these jobs available how come the country hasn’t collapsed? I mean a strike of 750,000 people is significant to cause billions of pounds loss to economy even in a day.
        And yet they think people like you, me and all those that post on here are stupid. They think the country falls for stuff like that, but they don’t. Most people never look at this stuff, their lives are too busy to, if they looked they would know they were being took for a ride, most of them anyway.

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          Propaganda runs it before & after the election. Propaganda aka brainwashing the masses to all think on mass rather than an individual. Only now are the national media & society waking up because it effects them now so they have a voice because they are tory voters.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      6m ago
      09:59

      Q: Are you worried that the department will not be able to function if you are forced to cut running costs by 40%?

      Duncan Smith says you can reduce running costs and still deliver a better service.

      The department’s runnning costs are £7.2bn, £2bn less than they were when he took over.

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        You forgot about admin costs in wastage. £billions

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        32s ago
        10:06

        Mike Driver, the DWP’s director general for finance, who is giving evidence alongside Duncan Smith, says fraud and error in welfare payments is at its lowest level since 2004-05.

  147. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    10.11am
    10:11

    Mike Driver says the fraud and error in the department is put at 1.9%. But that is a gross figure. The net figure is 1.5%, he says.

    ———————————————————————————————–

    Funny that is says 0.7% on the Gov website.

  148. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Duncan Smiths says some of these figures are not clear.

    He is fully in support of food banks, he says.

    Where people go to food banks because of problems with the department, the department tries to pick up those problems.

    He says was visited by a food bank before the summer break. They said some individuals had a problem with benefit payments. He has tried putting an benefits adviser in the food bank when it is open, so he or she can look into these cases.

    If this works, it will be rolled out nationally, he says.

    ————————————————————————————

    So the Tories do believe Food banks exist after saying it was all made up.

    • Stepping,

      So….

      Coachy who sanctioned you… Say for non-attendance due to illness, death of child, being 5 minutes late etc etc, is expected by these fools to be welcomed with open arms at the place people are scrambling to get food due to their actions? When people are at the end of their tether and absolutely desperate? Do they really think that violence won’t result?

      Here’s a scenario:
      I’m from DWP…
      piss off
      If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
      THUD
      Someone call an ambulance!

      I’m from DWP…
      don’t want to talk to you
      If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
      you sanctioned me already, for going to my daughters/mothers etc funeral!
      If you don’t do as I say, talk to me I’lll Sanctio….
      THUD
      Someone call an ambulance!

      I’m sure everyone can imagine the scenarios – how about inablity of DWP officers being able to explain the sanction applied and peoples reaction to that? those on drugs being added to the mix? This will not end well.

      I can foresee DWP officers being escorted by plods….

      You couldn’t make this up

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        @Gazza

        The DWP now feel they run the food banks & if you do not comply [Hit with a tin of mushy peas] you will get a sanction banning you from the food bank.

        • That thought had occured to me but….

          Note : Food Banks get no Gov funding so outside their control.

          its not DWP property, nor can DWP force themselves onto private property…

          Also, in what capacity will the DWP officer be acting under? Outreach? Personal Advisors like a work roach? Gestapo like they are right now?
          duuuuhhhh – gididiot and clueless herr smith stikes again

  149. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    2m ago
    10:41

    Duncan Smith says Scottish government could use its new powers to compensate for effect of tax credit cuts

    Mhairi Black, the SNP MP, goes next.

    Q: Isn’t there an argument for devolving all welfare to Scotland?

    Duncan Smith says Scotland is getting power over the work programme and disability benefits. And the Scottish government will have the power to top up welfare payments.

    The government is implementing the recommendations in the Smith commission report, he says.

    Q: But 85% of welfare will not be devolved. That is not the full federalism promised during the referendum campaign.

    Duncan Smith says he and Black are not going to agree on this. The Smith commission is being implemented.

    Q: If the Scottish government tops up benefits, will people lose out by having other benefits cut?

    Duncan Smith says it will be up to the Scottish government to decide what it does.

    The Scottish government will get control of £2.7bn’s worth of welfare, he says. It is a “reasonable” and “generous” settlement.

    Q: So, if the Scottish government tops up benefits, people will not have other benefits cut?

    Duncan Smith says that is a matter for the Scottish government.

    Q: Could the Scottish government use its tax-raising powers to stop the cuts to tax credits?

    Duncan Smith says, as he understands it, that is the case.
    Duncan Smith says Scottish government could use its tax-raising powers to compensate for impact of tax credit cuts.

    Frank Field says the SNP are saying the tax credit cuts could not take place. Are you saying the SNP could use their powers to stop those cuts taking place in Scotland?

    Duncan Smith says, under the Smith commission plans, it will be wholly within the power of the Scottish government to top up benefits, provided they raise the money themselves.

    Q: But the Scottish government would have to get your agreement?

    Duncan Smith says the power exists. They would not need to consult the DWP.

    • overburdenddonkey

      http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-angriest-man-in-scotland/
      scotland has no extras powers it’s not allowed any advantage over r.uk see scotland bill 2015, which means is not even LAW yet…’In other words, the purpose of the Scotland Bill powers is – as this site warned last year – to hamstring the Scottish Government by forcing it to pick up the bill for brutal Tory cuts out of its own budget, even as that budget is reduced. It is at least nice to have the Unionist parties’ malicious intent out in the open for once.’
      stepping, taste unionists words very carefully before swallowing….

  150. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

  151. “OSBORNE MAKES A CUNT OF HIMSELF”
    UNMASKING THE TRUTH OF UK NATIONAL DEBT

    • overburdenddonkey

      so they train to be recyclers…afm
      which means all recycling jobs have now gone, i expect they train like in the karate kid to become surgeons as the techniques are the same…🙂

    • Another Fine Mess

      Yep, the whole country’s becoming over run with welfare-dependent social enterprises.
      http://www.recyclinglives.org
      http://www.recyclinglives.com

    • paultheswineherd

      Another Fine Mess – This is certainly another disgraceful state of affairs. (and, to make it even worse, done by a ‘LABOUR’ Council too).
      You may remember that months ago on here I was foreseeing a time when ‘private companies’ would be ‘opening private workhouses’. Well, it looks like it is coming to pass – but – via a so-called ‘charity – how shameful – it’ll be the sally Army doing it next. I can just see it happening now – the homeless forced into doing work for them (and earning the Sally Army money in the meantime) in return for bed & board and one meal a day to ‘keep them off the streets’. And, with a report that Britain is seeing a return to ‘Victorian’ diseases and malnutrition, this country is quickly turning into a third world country – next there will be ‘Refugees’ – trying to flee away from here to go to other European/other Countries!

  152. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    So you are handing out £5,000 wheelchair to every one that needs a wheelchair. Gold Standard Disability Unconfident.

  153. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    My top tip is to get a job making DWP adverts.

  154. Another Fine Mess

    Steelworkers march on parliament
    http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/oct/28/steel-workers-marchparliament-sajid-javid-talks-eu-redcar-tata

    Don’t they know there’s 821,000 exciting new ‘opportunities’ on UJM.🙂

  155. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Interview with the Minister for Disabled people, shortly after his appointment

    He says confident 200 times – Is he unconfident to say confidence is confident 200 times.

    Robbing Disabled people with your say it 200 times thhe disability minister is confident.

  156. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    NOT STICKING BY YOUR ADVERT DWP

  157. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    David Cameron vs Jeremy Corbyn – PMQs 28 Oct 2015

    DWP DEATHS – 18.18

    • IF THEY PLAN TP PUT WORK ADVISERS FOODBANKS, WILL THEY BE PUTTING DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT ADVISERS IN CEMETERIES?

      You have ro remember that at least 2380 claimants died after been classified fit by the DWP’S third party piss pot washers that call themselves health care professionals.

      Death by proxy does not lift the oncoming litigation from the DWP doorstep, it just shows the desperation to find an alibi from the deaths that they expected but were covered up by bogus risk assessment studies

  158. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – This is an interesting, but I would thing a very unwelcome development. If someone has been sanctioned and he/she and/or their family is almost starving – the very last person they are going to want to see is a Job Roach from JCP (the very same organisation that sanctioned them in the first place).
    I really hope (that as these ‘foodbanks’ are basically on private premises), the ones in charge would be well within their right to refuse entry to these ‘advisers), or if they do come in, (and they are on private property) then they could ask them to leave and if they will not leave, they could call the Police and get them out of there! Only an idea, but I hope one that may be taken up.
    I would also imagine that a few of these ‘advisers’ could get ‘beaten up’ or worse if they didn’t watch their step (due to the strength of feeling)!

    • I would imagine their primary role is to snoop, their secondary role would be to intimidate and put desperate people from claiming thus pushing food bank user statistics down which the DWPcould herald as a breakthrough.
      The DWP role in society is not as it once was , Paul. No longer do they administer social security, they just intimidate to deny benefit.

      They are merely public servants that have been given a role to harrass the most weak and vulnerable into submission by whatever underhand means are available.
      Their policies are pure fantasy transcribed from the input of multinationals that have infiltrated key government committees.

      Hence BILL GUNNYEONS move from the position of DWP chief medical officer to MURDEROUS MAXIMIMUS just after the nod to take over WCA tests.
      Soon there will be revelations about the multi billion steel contract the tories have given to Sweden through a defence contract to supply shipbuilding material.
      Every major deal struck in our nation carries the big brown envelope of lobbying, parliament is nothing short of a gentleman’s club for progressing ones finances.
      The involvement of our ministers and committee members is yet to emerge from the major welfare contracts of ATOS, CAPITA, SEETEC and MAXIMUS.

      Insider dealing and corruption has no boundaries. Collateral damage of a few thousand lives the greed we have to pay.

    • It’s called rubbing salt in the wounds…😉

    • It’s called rubbing salt in the wounds….😉

    • Wouldn’t foodbanks have to be complicit to allow these JCP fucking over the doorstep in the first place. Foodbanks are private property just like a shopping centre – they can refuse entry to whoever they choose. Incidentally, Jobcentres are NOT private private property; they are GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS and as such have NO RIGHT to REFUSE ENTRY TO or EXPEL whoever they choose from their premises: by doing so the Jobcentre are acting ILLEGALLY. But hey ho, what’s new…😉

      It would be an affront to human decency if Foodbanks were to allow these JCP fuckers through the door.

      Another small point is that a lot of foodbank customers, probably most, don’t actually PHYSICALLY attend the foodbank in any case. They are refereed from an agency, social services who will pop round to the foodbank to collect the parcels. In a emergency accommodation unit I used to work in I would personally do this: drive round the the foodbank, collect the parcels and deliver them to the tenant’s door. Up yours to Iain Duncan Smith and the tenants having to trudge for miles, face the humiliation of a foodbank, then carry a bag of very heavy mostly tinned goods all the way home.

  159. Noticed that the House of Lords Voted against Attack on Tax Credits

    George Osborne should Resign as Chancellor of the Exchequer

    • overburdenddonkey

      well you noticed WRONG….

      • overburdenddonkey

        ps you’re always banging on about zombie brainwashed couch potatoes that are compliant and have now reveal those traits in yourself…
        well done! noop…🙂

    • See my reply to the vote and what it really means, further above.
      Yes…the Upper Chamber voted a measure that curtails Regime plans to a certain extent, but it actually achieves very little of worth . That the NEW NAZIS are frothing over this, despite jetting Loyd Webber over from New York City, it shows how deranged this present Regime has become. The Lords have tried to be smart here. In not blocking the tax Credit cuts, for existing claimants, but merely a delaying motion, and thereby, maintain their status, which they clearly felt they would lose if the followed thru the Lib Dem agenda to stop it altogether.
      This was merely the upper Chamber trying to have their cake and eat it.
      As for Labour ex MPs in the place..you know like the fire raisers and the like, abstaining is useless. That is all they ever were, and have proved it for us all to see the other night.

  160. Well if they Voted completely in Favour the Tory Leadership would Not
    be Having a Go at the House of Lords

    How is Calling for George Osborne to Resign being Compliant ?

    overburdenddonkey | October 28, 2015 at 4:23 pm | Reply

    ps you’re always banging on about zombie brainwashed couch potatoes that are compliant and have now reveal those traits in yourself…
    well done! noop…🙂

  161. This Country has Gone Beyond the Dogs and that is because too Many
    are in a Cuckooland Trance

    The NHS Railways ETC

  162. Don’t be fooled here – just because there was a reversal of fortune for the nazis this week – they can all, still give disabled people a kicking – labour amendments defeated in welfare reform bill – fucking nazis still think by killing off disabled people they will resolve the deficit problems and nobody is violently disagreeing in parliament

  163. I Feel Deeply Sorry for the Homeless this Winter whilst Millions are in a
    Materialistic Trance with the Christmas Commercial Pahlava

    Best Christmas Present Homeless can Have is a Decent Place of
    Residence

  164. I Agree Parliament leaves a Lot to be Desired

    They are too often Arrogant and Out of Touch

    It is a Disgusting Mess Politicians put this Country in

    jeremy | October 28, 2015 at 5:31 pm | Reply

    Don’t be fooled here – just because there was a reversal of fortune for the nazis this week – they can all, still give disabled people a kicking – labour amendments defeated in welfare reform bill – fucking nazis still think by killing off disabled people they will resolve the deficit problems and nobody is violently disagreeing in parliament

  165. And before I leave you may be interested in this – The all-party parliamentary disability group (APPDG) until this year had always had a disabled MP or peer as a chair or co-chair.

    The new chair of the all-party group is the SNP MP and clinical psychologist, Dr Lisa Cameron who is able-bodied.

    The new vice-chair of the committee is the Tory MP and armed forces veteran Johnny Mercer, who is also not a disabled person.

    Disabled people are rapidly becoming extinct

    see DNS for info

    • I guess it would depend on how many MPs they have with actually disabilities. Last time there was Ann Begg, who was a wheel chair user.
      At least Lisa Cameron is a qualified doctor who would have some knowledge of the problems (and bitterly opposed to Regime policy). I can’t figure what the military man is doing in such a group. though!

  166. Another Fine Mess

    Is JV MIA?

  167. Someone has probably put details of this organisation on here before, but just in case anyone hasn’t already read about it, it looks to me like people genuinely trying to help disabled people get their benefits:
    http://www.benefitsandwork.co.uk/about-us

    “Formal stuff

    Benefits and Work Publishing Ltd.
    Registered office: 8-10 Queen Street, Seaton, Devon EX12 2NY
    Country of registration: United Kingdom
    Company Registration No. 05962666
    VAT Registration Number: 931571333

    Mailing address
    Benefits & Work Publishing Ltd
    PO Box 4352
    WARMINSTER
    BA12 2AF

    Contact
    Please see our Contact and help page.
    What we’re about

    At a time when most politicians seem proud to treat sick and disabled claimants with harshness and suspicion, independent and accurate information about how to claim and keep your benefits is vitally important.Feedback: The guides have been invaluable: there is nothing else like them on the net.

    Benefits and Work, was launched in 2002 (and became a limited company in October 2006) by advice worker turned barrister Holiday Whitehead and benefits writer and trainer Steve Donnison, to provide just such information.

    It is unique amongst benefits information providers in that it asks for no funding or support from the government, local authorities, grant making trusts or large companies. Every penny of Benefits and Work’s revenue comes from its subscribing members.

    This complete independence means that Benefits and Work is free to publish information that makes it deeply unpopular with the Department for Work and Pensions, multinationals with an interest in benefits – such as Atos Healthcare, Unum Provident and Capita – and even other advice providers whose dependence on state and corporate funding may have made them reluctant to tell the whole truth.”

    • “DWP PLANS TO INTIMIDATE THOSE MADE TO STARVE”

      Mhairi Black slams IDS plans to turn food banks into “outposts” for the DWP
      October 29th, 2015 – 12:18 am Andrew Learmonth
      9 comments

      IAIN Duncan Smith was accused of trying to turn food banks into an “outpost” for Jobcentre Plus staff after he told MPs he would like to see a trial scheme rolled out nationwide.

      The work and pensions secretary said he would like to see the trial scheme at the Lalley Welcome Centre in Collyhurst, north-east Manchester extended after it was given “very strong feedback”.

      Appearing in front of Westminster’s work and pensions select committee yesterday, Iain Duncan Smith said the trial, which had been in place for the past three weeks, seemed to be proving successful.

      SNP MP Mhairi Black, a member of the committee, accused Duncan Smith of trying to turn food banks into an “outpost” for Jobcentre Plus. Instead, she said, ministers should be focusing on eradicating the need for food banks by changing their policies, which were “driving people into crisis situations.”

      Duncan Smith told the committee: “I am trialling at the moment a job advisor situating themselves in the food bank for the time that food bank is open. We’re already getting very strong feedback about that.”

      He continued: “If this works and if other food banks are willing to encompass this I would like to roll this out across the UK.”

      Robert Devereux, the DWP’s permanent secretary, told the committee his department had two advisers working one day a week in the Manchester centre.

      He said: “These work coaches have teamed up with local job clubs and they’re spending more of their time pointing people to vacancies and to work than they are in fixing their benefits.”

      Frank Field, the Labour committee chair said that in the Birkenhead food bank, when an adviser was stationed there, “ninety per of people did not return because the person sorted out their benefit problems. I would have thought that the sooner you can roll it out, secretary of state, the better.”

      Dave Simmers, from the Food Banks Partnership Aberdeen said: “Any Jobcentre staff involved in such a position would need to have the attitude and outlook that was conducive to a food bank setting, where a particular ethos will prevail. And that’s a different ethos, I would respectfully suggest, to a Jobcentre or the DWP.”

      A spokesman for the Trussell Trust, which operates more than 400 food banks across the UK, said: “We welcome the Government’s interest in exploring new ways that the DWP might help people at food banks. But we would also suggest that there first needs to be a dialogue between the DWP and The Trussell Trust network about the possible challenges and opportunities that hosting DWP advisers in food banks could afford.”

      Sister Rita Lee, who works at the Lalley Welcome Centre said she had given Duncan Smith the idea: “I wrote to the minister and the Prime Minister and received very nice letters from them both, but it was Iain Duncan Smith who said we could have a meeting with him in London. I think it’s a brilliant, brilliant thing that the Government’s doing [this].”

      Food-bank use in Scotland hit a record high last year. Simmers says his organisation expects to give out 25,000 food packages in Aberdeen this year.

      Black said food bank use was a result of the government’s “ideological obsession with austerity”.

      The SNP MP said: “It seems ironic that the UK Government will not fund foodbanks and ministers time and again refuse to acknowledge the links between their policies and the increase in need for foodbanks yet they are now trying to use them as an outpost for Jobcentre Plus staff.

      “Iain Duncan Smith should concentrate on trying to eradicate the need for food banks by changing the policies driving people into crisis.”

      She added: “The need for food banks is a clear indication that the Tories’ ideological obsession with austerity is not working which is why the SNP remain fundamentally opposed to their regressive policies

      http://www.thenational.scot/news/mhairi-black-slams-ids-plans-to-turn-food-banks-into-outposts-for-the-dwp.9335

      • John McArdle · Edinburgh, United Kingdom

        Should we prefer evidence of a meddling NUN over anyone else? History firmly teaches us no! What the hell gives her any authority to stick her oar in? The DWP Jobcentre sanctions folks and condemns you and your bairns to starvation and destitution – and then they want to pure take the piss by humiliating you – watching you beg for charity? Can anyone imagine the indignity of this insane scenario? Let’s not forget what the nuns have done for us, eh? In 10,000 years they’d never be able to do enough penance for the crimes they committed against the poor women and children of Ireland. Sister Rita needs to zip it and head back to her silent order in my opinion. The days of us taking heed of the Church in matters of the struggle for economic and social justice are well and truly gone forever! Listen to Assignment; ‘Ireland’s Forced Labour Survivors’ The ‘Magdalen Laundries’ https://t.co/4SlJ9PldtJ

        • Ian Sanderson
          “We’re already getting strong feedback….”

          I’m sure you are IDS. Would you care to publish it in full..?
          Like · Reply · 3 · 2 hrs
          Joyce Harkin
          Or is it this “feedback” just something else IDS is making up with role-playing actors? I can’t help but feel that having someone from the DWP to “advise” food bank users on getting jobs would surely make a bad situation just so much worse. Or is this his cunning plan to reduce the use of foodbanks so that he can claim his policies are working?
          Like · Reply · 1 · 2 hrs

          • “ANTI SLAVERY BILL”
            LABOUR COUNCIL GIVES THE NOD FOR FIRST WORKHOUSE

            Yes, you read the headline correctly. As originally reported on this blog in November last year, a former bus depot in Blackburn seems set to become the first new workhouse the UK has seen since before the Second World War.

            Amazingly, Labour-controlled Blackburn with Darwen Council has approved in principle the sale and conversion of the Transdev/Lancashire United garage in Manner Sutton Street in Eanam on the edge of Blackburn town.

            SENIOR councillors have approved the framework of a deal to transform a semi-derelict former bus depot into a charity and recycling centre.

            Under the scheme, up to 10 otherwise homeless people would live at the site under supervision.

            A charity calling itself Recycling Lives would run the site as a recycling centre for metal, scrap cars, tyres, plastics, televisions and redundant household items.

            The claim is that money raised from selling these items would provide the homeless and others on the margins of society with training, education, work experience and employment.

            The dictionary definition of ‘workhouse’ is “a place where those unable to support themselves were offered accommodation and employment”. Doesn’t that description fit the proposed new use of the Blackburn bus depot?

            http://voxpoliticalonline.com/2015/10/28/workhouse-deal-is-signed-between-council-and-charity/

          • Another Fine Mess

            “We’re already getting strong feedback….”

        • Sister Rita Lee

          The former social worker -added: “I am very well connected here in Collyhurst and I feel strongly about looking after the people here, which I will continue to do.

          “That’s what Jesus told us — it’s a commandment of the Lord.”

          a blushing, Dunko the Clown, turned away, saying, “I have been called many things”

  168. Indeed

    paultheswineherd | October 24, 2015 at 9:13 pm | Reply

    The nasty ‘Nazi’ party tries to strike again – they think that because they are so very ‘priveleged’ that the ‘law’ does not apply to them. Unfortunately though, if it really came to the crunch, then the ‘Judiciary’ would most probably ‘side’ with them.
    If one cares to see Prime Ministers Questions – I assume that those ‘powdered-wigged’ judges at the head of the table would most probably overrule everything.
    The total bastards! (I stand to be corrected on this assumption)

  169. October the 31st 2015 AD Mark’s the 75th Anniversary of the End of the
    Battle of Britain in 1940 AD which was Instrumental in Keeping the
    United Kingdom Free from Nazi Invasion

    The United Kingdom should Honour that more Heroic Time by Saying No to Nazi Eugenics and Euthanasia Now and Forever .

    There is Plenty of Historical Truth behind the Cruelty of Nazi Eugenics
    and Nazi Euthanasia

    The United Kingdom Needs to be a Caring Society Free of Neo Nazism
    and Slave Labour Exploitation

  170. Something which would Help the Poor and Vulnerable is Reducing VAT
    Level or Better Still Abolishing VAT

    It was the Tories who Imposed VAT upon People in the United Kingdom
    via Joining the So Called ” Common Market ” and it is the Tories like
    Jezebel Margaret Thatcher who have Increased VAT

  171. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Freedom of information laws ‘misused’ by journalists, says Chris Grayling

    Leader of the Commons claims media use FoI requests as a ‘research tool’ to ‘generate’ stories

    Guardian – Thursday 29 October 2015 14.16 GMT

    A Tory minister has accused journalists of “misusing” freedom of information laws to “generate” stories.

    Chris Grayling, the leader of the House of Commons, claimed journalists used the Freedom of Information Act as a “research tool” and said it should be used for “those who want to understand why and how government is taking decisions”.

    His comments are likely to anger freedom of information campaigners and the media, which has used the law to uncover stories such as the Prince of Wales’s so-called “black spider letters”.

    The government has set up an FoI commission to review the scope of existing laws, which permit members of the public, journalists and campaigners to access information.

    Read More:
    http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/oct/29/freedom-of-information-journalists-chris-grayling-foi

  172. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Chris Grayling is RATTLED.

  173. How ironic that JACK STRAW wants to try and curtail the very freedom of information act that he pushed to introduce……………

    Especially on the eve of the announcement that £890 PER DAY CHILCOTT will release the 2 million word document called “The observers book of evading war crimes”, “HOW TONY AND I KILLED HUNDREDS OF MILITARY PERSONNEL AND COUNTLESS THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS BY TELLING LIES TO THE PARLIAMENT AND ITS CITIZENSHIP.”

    Transparency is a dirty word, especially to the staff of the DWP who are fighting tooth and nail to bury their under estimated benefits cull of innocent victims who were deemed fit for work……………..

    But please remember, “FIT FOR WORK IS JUST A COLLOQUIALISM AS REPORTED BY THE DWP FOLLOWING THE DEATH OF MICHAEL BRENDAN O’SULLIVAN………………….

    DWP CLAPTRAP TO TRY AND EVADE A MURDER CHARGE
    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    A decision that a claimant does not have Limited Capability for work, or Limited Capability for Work Related Activity, is colloquially referred to as a decision that the claimant is “FIT FOR WORK”. However, what this actually means is that the claimant does not meet the functional descriptors set out in the ESA Regulations for LCA or LCWRA.
    IT DOES NOT REPRESENT A FINDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE CLAIMANT IS EMPLOYABLE OR WHETHER THE CLAIMANT WILL BE ABLE TO FIND WORK.

    DWP

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