How The DWP Is Drafting In Doctors To Promote Iain Duncan Smith’s Warped Ideology

fit-note-guidanceAre you working hard enough?  Are you sure?  What if you get sick, or have an accident?  Are you prepared to go to work anyway, even if you don’t think it would be good for your health?  What if your doctor and boss agree you could do something other than your usual job instead of malingering at home?  Like making cups of tea all day, or cleaning the bogs, or any form of work your empoyer can dream up to force you not to take time off.  Because that is now the chilling reality as the DWP attempts to inject Iain Duncan Smith’s warped ideology into the NHS.

Last week the DWP issued patronising new guidance to GPs on when they should issue a Fit Note.  Doctors are warned of the dangers of ‘worklessness’ and told they must consider “the vital role that work can play in your patient’s health”.  According to the department, “the evidence is clear that patients benefit from being in some kind of regular work”.

This is an outright lie.  What the evidence says is that on balance most people might be better off working but the beneficial health effects depend on the nature and quality of that work.  In the report on which the DWP’s claims are based – a paper incidentally commissioned by the DWP themselves – the authors actually warn that “a minority of people may experience contrary health effects from work”. 

This study – called Is Work Good For Your Health and Well Being (pdf) – has formed the basis of government policy ever since the Labour administration launched the despised Work Capability Assessment for out of work sickness benefits in 2008.  It features a reasonably wide-ranging review of the evidence of the health risks and benefits of work and concludes that work, on balance, is better for most people’s health than unemployment but with important caveats.  These findings have been consistently misrepresented by politicians who have used them to claim that any kind of work is good for health, and that this applies to everybody.

The study found that in some cases – possibly 5-10% – unemployment can lead to improved health and well being.  It warns that negative health impacts of unemployment are “at least partly mediated through socioeconomic
status” – meaning it is not work that is good for you, but poverty that is bad for you.   The review points out that whilst the evidence is conflicting, shift work and long hours could have a weak negative impact on health.  It also finds that school leavers who move into ‘unsatisfactory’ employment can experience a
decline in their health and that economically secure people who retire early may experience beneficial effects on their health.   Even if this report is taken at face value – and it comes loaded with assumptions about the social and moral imperatives of work – all it shows is that work can be good for your health – but only if it’s a good quality well paid job.

If you are in low paid or insecure work then what your GP should tell you – based on the existing evidence – is to take a few days off if you aren’t happy or feel unwell.  Perhaps they should warn that you might be one of the 5 or 10% of people who are healthier if they are unemployed, despite the loss of income.  A more recent study carried out in Australia, and quoted on The Conversation, found that people “who moved into poor-quality jobs showed a significant worsening in their mental health compared to those who remained unemployed.”

What the new guidance to GPs is intended to do is impose workplace dicipline via the healthcare system.  Much like a seven day NHS is a health service for bosses, not patients, and likely to lead to pressure on workers not to book medical appointments in working hours, the Fit Note scheme is designed to bully people into the workplace even if they are sick.  That is why the guidance states that if GPs consider their patient could do any work at all, regardless of their usual job, then they should tick a box suggesting amended duties, or workplace adapatations rather than issue a full Fit Note.  And if doctors are too squeamish to treat patients this way then they are instructed to refer them to Maximus – the shadowy US conglomerate brought in carry out health assessments under the new Fit For Work scheme.

To help doctors decide what is best for their patients, or more correctly their patient’s employers, the new Fit Note guidance features case studies, with recommended courses of action that GPs should take.  They include an example of someone diagnosed with anxiety disorder who says that her work in customer services is giving her panic attacks and that she is too distressed to carry out her duties.  According to the DWP her doctor should first warn her that working is important for her mental health and “remind her that there are still other things that she can do – for example, physical tasks or back-room duties.”  This will help her feel more positive according to the department.  Then she should be referred to Maximus who will develop  a plan with her boss, such as sending her on a course to learn coping techniques, or doing quieter shifts.  And of course bosses, being always right and always reasonable, will not abuse this new power to force sick employees into the workplace.

Yet even the most bullying of bosses are to be accommodated according to the DWP.  Another case study features someone – a woman again – who complains that a poor relationship with her manager is causing her severe stress.  She says the manager has been ‘really horrible’ to her and she feels unable to cope.  Rather than raise any concerns about what seems to indicate workplace bullying however, her doctor is instructed to declare she does not have a health problem and she should speak to her human resources department, or union rep.  She should not be issued with a Fit Note and her GP should explain that they are “acting with her health interests in mind.”  It is better for her health to be bullied and abused in the workplace than be workless, even for a short while, according to the DWP.

The introduction of this guidance makes it clear that the scroungers vs scroungers narrative is now impeding on healthcare even amongst those who are not on benefits.  It is not hyperbole to suggest that the credibility of doctors is now at stake.  For too long the entire healthcare sector has remained silent whilst scientific evidence is distorted to further the ideology of modern capitalism and increase the power of employers over their staff.  Any GP who believes in evidence over rhetoric should tell Iain Duncan Smith to stick these guidelines up his fucking arse.  Anything else is a betrayal of the role of doctors as guardians of our health and well being.

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431 responses to “How The DWP Is Drafting In Doctors To Promote Iain Duncan Smith’s Warped Ideology

  1. If anybody says something to me that I don’t like I retaliate and it doesn’t matter how big they are I wade in so it could be said I am a danger to myself or others, normally others, I have a 100% record on that and mostly against males that are bigger than me.

  2. This Nazi Style Shit Needs to be Opposed

    Hands Off the Poor and Vulnerable

    • Those obscenely overpaid NHS ahem.. ‘professionals’ have been turning a willfully negligent blind eye to all of the DWP’s criminal abuse for years.
      And now they are being asked to collaborate a bit more… of course they will, kerching.

      • I was a staff nurse in accident and emergency. I was retired out on ill health grounds after really bad spinal surgery. Had to learn to walk again. 10 yrs later I still have acute pain and problems associated with the poor surgery. My gp said I’m not fit for work. But that means nothing to dwp who kicked me off benefits despite going to tribunal. It’s worth noting that at NO TIME did I have a meeting with a MEDICAL professional from dwp. None of which helps my mental health!

        • Invasion of the 'Decision Makers'

          DWP don’t have MEDICAL professionals or any other kind of professional for that matter 😀 DWP have ‘decision makers’ 😀

          • The DWP don’t have ‘decision makers’, they have ‘Criminal Abusers’.
            google –
            Fraud Act 2006 / Misconduct in Public Office / Vulnerable Adult Abuse
            then google ‘Honest Cop’, but I doubt that you will find any in this country, I haven’t yet.
            (record all of their crime and abuse)

        • Sheena the system they had with Atos and now Maximus is the same people are doomed before their appointment with the charlatan medical professional. In litigation if someone has non visible injuries and they try to sue their employer solicitors for the company and employee are all insured by Royal Sun Alliance. Then when I found out my injuries were covered up as I had written evidence I could not get a lawyer to represent me, and I found out the complaints systems were actually protection systems for professionals. The new setup of the DWP is doing the same covering up peoples medical problems because they are now in their view economic units not human beings. And the NHS complaints system is non existent just like complaining to the Law Society of Scotland or the General Medical Council. Finally if it were not for people like you I would be dead.

        • Sheena, look up the ‘Benefits and Work’ website (has facebook page too). It was set up by lawyers and advisors and is independent of government who is not happy with them for helping the likes of us. Don’t give up. Good luck!

  3. I Notice that Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as Secretary
    of State For Work and Pensions Now has over 112,320 Signatures through it should be Millions of Signatures if it were Not for the Brainwashed Zombies out There

    Get the Tories Out of Office Now and Forever

    I am Sick of these Nation Wrecking Scum

  4. overburdenddonkey

    top advice from the dwp there; ‘suffer anxiety go hide in a cupboard…’ 🙂
    ‘work’s’ no good unless it provide sufficient income to thrive and one is well enough to do it…

    • overburdenddonkey
      ‘Where this includes the linkage of social security benefits to the receipt of “state therapy”, as announced in the chancellor’s latest budget, this is totally unacceptable. “Get to work therapy” is manifestly not therapy at all. With the ominous news that Maximus (the US company replacing Atos to do work capability assessments) will also be managing the new national Fit for Work programme, it is time for the field’s key professional organisations to wake up to these malign developments, and unequivocally denounce such so-called “therapy” as damaging and professionally unethical. More generally, the wider reality of a society thrown completely off balance by the emotional toxicity of neoliberal thinking is affecting Britain in profound ways, the distressing effects of which are often most visible in the therapist’s consulting room.’

  5. Part of me wants the latte dribbling, rocket salad munching tuppence h’apenny millionaires to be on the receiving end of this shit.

  6. It says “work”, it does not say” can this person hold down a job that pays”.
    Worklessness is not the same as jobless.
    Everybody, works at something….even if its breathing.
    Even I do “housework” when im knee deep in shite.
    The language experts at “Fawlty Towers”, must be going into overdrive.

    • Professor Stephen Hawking

      The work done by a constant force of magnitude F on a point that moves a displacement (not distance) s in the direction of the force is the product,

      W = Fs.

      For example, if a force of 10 newtons (F = 10 N) acts along a point that travels 2 metres (s = 2 m), then it does the work W = (10 N)(2 m) = 20 N m = 20 J. This is approximately the work done lifting a 1 kg weight from ground to over a person’s head against the force of gravity. Notice that the work is doubled either by lifting twice the weight the same distance or by lifting the same weight twice the distance.

      Work = Force x Displacement 😉

      So we all do “work” 🙂

      • overburdenddonkey

        which proves the point i made a while back, that we only stop doing work when we peg it…

        • overburdenddonkey

          ps prof
          it was one of the points i made when someone told me/defined laziness as; ‘laziness is voluntary lack of work’..therefore no one is lazy as we all do work, and that tiredness is not the same laziness, if one is tired and can’t work, as one needs to rest, this is not being lazy…

  7. Why should any doctor stand by him after the shafting he’s giving to them over the past five and a half years, none of them should, has hammered them right, left and centre, no doctor should show any loyalty to this odious, little turd of a man and none to his fellow tory chum CHunt either who’s busy destroying the NHS, it proves how desperate they are to dream up this little stunt to fool the people that many still support their crusade in dismantling all of the services in this country.

  8. A worrying culture where turning up for work is seen as more important than employee health and wellbeing. – obviously.

    • Well work was certainly good for me!! The bouncing pay cheques and daily sexual harassment I experienced in my last job really improved my quality of life.
      I’m gutted now my GP gave me 8 weeks to recover from stress and depression this caused and to give migraine meds time to kick in. Really I should have continued working and enduring as it would have been better for me!!

  9. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Since there is no one unemployed any more every one has a job & needs Medical Health Insurance Policies wrapped up in one benefit called UC Universal Credit. It also fits with the ESA50 bogus form questionnaire Term & Conditions you agree to by signing it. You are letting the DWP control all medical facts to lies & knows what is best for you like getting medication at the Jobcentre instead of the chemist. Also since no GP evidence is used or looked at when doing the ESA50 & WCA.. A vetting system to get hold of a public form. 150 – 200 people are having their mobility scooters taken away each week. Here is one for the GP`s – I am only disabled because I have never learnt to tie my shoelaces which means I ca n`t get to the office. Do you really expect me to go down the street in my socks & then get on a train in my socks !!!!!! The Care Of Duty is being breached. In the DWP Terms & condition it also says by agreeing the DWP hold no responsibility.

  10. Dr’s are employed for the patients not to make then worse by sending them into work when they are not right wherever mentally or physical. We don’t all have jobs where we sit on our arse in a lovely warm room with nice and clean rooms with people running a round for us. We don’t have a cafe with almost free food and drink we also don’t have someone to drive us to work or around the country … Unlike the dickheads who are telling us how work is good for us how the fuck would they know …. They have never done any!

  11. Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    From: D Cook

    10 October 2015

    My disabled nephew who has autism; learning difficulties, dispraxia
    and other problems has been found fit for work and one of the
    questions his mother rose [in his appeal papers] was: ‘If he’s
    stressed he will lash out and who will take responsibility if he
    hurts someone?’

    This raised an interesting question and what I [& my nephew’s
    family] would like to ask is:

    1) Since corporate manslaughter is an offence in UK law, how
    culpable in law are you if someone physically or mentally disabled,
    terminally ill, mentally ill or with degenerating-health problems
    whom you have deemed fit for work [by a WCA] is forced back into or
    into work or the work programme and they:

    i) kill or injure a third party by accident?
    ii) kill or injure a third party by personal attack?
    iii) injure themselves by accident?
    iv) or they kill themselves by accident?

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      I am sure the DWP will reply it is not their responsibility & there is nothing more they can say like who`s responsibility is it then!!!!

      DWP say its Maximus or Atos
      Atos & Maximus say its the DWP responsibility.

      IDS Vs ATOS [Round 560]
      ATOS Vs IDS [Round 561]

  12. Shame on the Rightist Labour MPS who did Not Vote against the
    Budget Surplus Diktat

    The Tories are Sickening and Out of Touch but these Labour
    Rightists Need De Selecting preferably Now as MPS

  13. Slavery is Oppression and Oppression is Slavery

    Down with Neo Liberalism

    Rosemarie Harris | October 15, 2015 at 5:37 pm | Reply

    Dr’s are employed for the patients not to make then worse by sending them into work when they are not right wherever mentally or physical. We don’t all have jobs where we sit on our arse in a lovely warm room with nice and clean rooms with people running a round for us. We don’t have a cafe with almost free food and drink we also don’t have someone to drive us to work or around the country … Unlike the dickheads who are telling us how work is good for us how the fuck would they know …. They have never done any!

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    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Thanks some useful info & link like

      New ‘fit for work’ scheme to assess patients by telephone

      PulseToday – 26th Jan 2015

      GPs will no longer need to issue sick notes for patients off work for longer than four weeks under a new occupational health scheme to be launched in the Spring.

      But the Government has admitted the service will only offer face-to-face consultations with occupational therapists in a ‘minority’ of cases – the majority being dealt with over the phone or online.

      The new national occupational health service – dubbed ‘Fit for Work’ – is currently being piloted by 20 practices in Sheffield, with a view to it being rolled out across the rest of the UK from the spring.

      Under the scheme, GPs will refer patients likely to be absent for four weeks or longer for an assessment by a Fit for Work occupational health specialist, who will then set up a ‘return to work’ plan with the patient – from which point the GP no longer needs to sign the patient’s fit note.

      DWP guidance for GPs explains that patients will undergo an initial assessment over the telephone within two working days of referral, or a face-to-face assessment with five working days ‘if deemed appropriate’

      ‘Where a face-to-face assessment is required (expected to be in a minority of cases) Fit for Work will pay reasonable travel expenses at your patient’s request,’ it states.

      The service was developed following a series of pilots, some of which showed positive results in helping patients back to work.

      For example, one project in Leicester saw two-thirds of absentees able to return to work.

      However, Dr Rob Hampton, Leicester GPSI in occupational health who led the pilot, cautioned that the majority of patients had mental health problems that required intensive case management.

      If a patient has failed to go back to work or find alternative employment or training after three months, they are automatically discharged from the Fit for Work service.

      Read More:

      • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

        Medicals over the phone = saves £2 Billion.

      • well for a start, if you are deaf, this is impossible and how in the world can you assess someone on the phone if you can’t see what they are trying to demonstrate on the phone? ridiculous ideas that save money bit achieve nothing else. The government ought to start putting citizens first, instead of money. This country is going backwards on it’s morals.

      • @Stepping
        I wonder how they’ll enforce “telephone consultations” on those without access to telephones? Like, for instance, people with serious speech problems like stroke survivors?

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          That is very difficult so they pass them fit & healthy. You can make a noise even if you can`t speak is seen as Yes I Am fit for Work. Words being put in peoples mouths who can not speak. Wait till one of the Tory party have to take 2 weeks off work or Dodgy Dave gets ill & works through it & makes it even worst. The Deputy stands in as PM which is IDS.

          • Unless of course some government paid magicians, let’s call them Back2Work Therapists can offer over the phone MRI scans, X-rays by internet GP general duties by courier – see business is thriving :0)

  15. they are just trying to pretend mental illnesses don’t exist, so that they don’t that to pay out to treat them, or give them time to recover. They should never underestimate the destruction mental disorders cause.

  16. Reblogged this on markcatlin3695's Blog and commented:
    First Do No Harm

  17. Also those doctors now have to choose between exercising their medical practise correctly or probably face being disciplined for it or even sacked, just like the employees in the dole office now do.

    • Doctors do have a pretty powerful union, the BMA, which seems to be becoming pretty militant, as evidenced by the current campaign by junior doctors who face being shafted by this present government.

      If you are a union member, put some pressure on your union to come out against these insidious changes in the way that sickness is handled for those in paid employment, and perhaps tell your union they should show public solidarity with the junior doctors in the BMA and also make representations to the BMA that these changes to the way that sickness amongst the employed is handled is not only wrong, but marginalises the medical profession as it uses non-qualified staff to assess sick people. The government is trying a stitch up of both the medical profession by dumbing down the sickness benefit system (and we all know what happens when that’s allowed) and those in work by regarding them as automatically malingerers of some kind.

  18. did anyone notice at the bottom of this page, there is a little smiley face?

    • yes, Maria, it’s been there for as long as I remember. 🙂

      • I was aware of it for a long time, but then you mind suddenly picks up, its a odd thing to have, a very small smiley face, in small print at the bottom of the page. Are you all sure there isn’t a more interesting story behind it?
        ‘Secrets of the Smiley Face’ make a good book?

    • Maria, it’s been here before quite a while ago. Someone else will be able to explain it.:-)

    • Another Fine Mess

      It’s something to do with collecting stats.

  19. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    From yesterday new ESA claimants will get £30 a week less in line with JSA. The ones who are already on ESA will not have £30 deducted.

    When a state decides who has human rights & who don`t have human rights for each stage of the benefit back to work process.



    Gordon Waddell, CBE DSc MD FRCS
    Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research, Cardiff University, UK
    A Kim Burton, PhD DO EurErg
    Centre for Health and Social Care Research, University of Huddersfield, UK
    The authors were commissioned by the Department for
    Work and Pensions to conduct this independent review of
    the scientific evidence. The authors are solely responsible
    for the scientific content and the views expressed which
    do not necessarily represent the official views of the
    Department for Work and Pensions, HM Government
    or The Stationery Office








      : The Scientific and Conceptual Basis of Incapacity
      Benefits (SCBIB) by Gordon Waddell and Mansel Aylward

      followed by the 2006 report:
      ?Is work good for your health and well
      being by Gordon Waddell and Kim Burton
      What is consta
      ntly overlooked is that both these influential reports were commissioned
      by the DWP. They were both produced when Aylward and Waddell were funded by
      Unum Provident Insurance at the Unum Provident Centre for Psychosocial and Disability
      Research (the Centre)
      at Cardiff University, with funding by the American corporate
      insurance giant, Unum

      , from 2003

      2009. Aylward is listed as the DWP Chief
      Medical Officer until April 2005

      and is identified as being appointed as the new Director
      of the Centre from

    • When work doesn’t pay

      Those who moved into optimal jobs showed significant improvement in mental health compared to those who remained unemployed. Those respondents who moved into poor-quality jobs showed a significant worsening in their mental health compared to those who remained unemployed.

      So now we have a slightly different answer to the question about the unemployed being better off in work. Yes they are, as long as they are in good-quality jobs. If they are in bad jobs, there is a perversely strong chance that they will be worse off – especially in terms of their mental health.

  21. Important Question – What Legal Standing does this “Suggestion” hold in law?

    From the time I see “Need Not Issue”, that tells me all I need to know.

    ConCons usual bumf to bamboozle people.

    Where is the statutory instrument in which this drastic change was implemented I wonder?

    Oh, it doesn’t exist. Its just an Aspiration – Doesn’t that make you feel all warm inside, how quaint of George Useless Smith. Fool.

  22. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    If you score all 15 points on the ESA50 Top score you will still be fit for work.

    ……………Outsourcing the dirty work of claimant killing.

    Always consider if your patient could do work of
    some kind before advising that they are not fi
    t for
    any work. Remember the long-term health risks
    of worklessness when advising your patient that
    they are not fit for work.
    You should use the fi
    t note to giv
    the functional effects of your patient’s condition
    on their fitness for work in general. You are
    not expected to have specialist knowledge of
    workplaces or occupational health, and you do
    not need to suggest possible changes to your
    patient’s workplace or job.

    the last time i saw anybody giving fit for work advice ended up with 2380 claimant deaths……………

    ………..that is, if you believe the DWP’S reworked figures to cover up the cull of the most vulnerable……………

    Another facet to Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde, killing you softly………….

  24. southessexheckler

    Reblogged this on The Heckler and commented:
    The really sinister part of this is the loaded guidance given to doctors by the DWP and the way they’re trying to undermine their independence…

  25. Santa hates you

    Good info JV. However, in my experience, doctors have always sided with government and employers. Back in 1985 when I went to my GP with significant mental distress caused by being bullied by a bunch of evil moron bosses at work, he said he would not give me a sicknote. Instead he proceeded to lecture me staying positive and using coping strategies and that I should ‘man up’. If the cunt had bothered to read my medical health notes he would have seen that I had a history of serious mental health disorders. Instead he forced me to go back to work and I tried to commit suicide. Only when I was in hospital with a broken mind and body did they take me seriously. GP’s who force unwell people back to work should be struck off by the General Medical Council.

    • paultheswineherd

      Santa hates you – a friend of mine years ago had problems getting the right treatment provided for a relation of his. He threatened to report the totally uncooperative Doctor to the General Medical council – it worked and his relation finally got the vital treatment that he needed!

      • paultheswineherd – Thank you for the advice. In this country it seems if you suffer from a mental health condition the only real way to get vital treatment is to hurt yourself or lodge a formal complaint. My support from the NHS only really started after I ended up in hospital after an unsuccessful suicide attempt. Shame on the government and shame on those GP’s and other medical professionals who support a broken system.

    • “GP’s who force unwell people back to work should be struck off by the General Medical Council.”

      Amen to that, Santa hates you. If nothing else, GPs should definitely get a warning to not do it again. Otherwise, it can cost people’s lives.

      • Hang on, we should report these new GP “guidances” to the General Medical Council. After all, they were written by a department which has no medical training. Thus they should rendered invalid by the medical profession. 😉

  26. paultheswineherd

    Whatever are these heartless twats going to try/do next and who, if anyone is going to be able to stop them?
    The Government of this country is turning more Nazi by the day.
    The rich are getting richer – the poor are getting poorer and now even the sick (in work) are being targeted. It’s high time that this Government and IDS was definitely targeted in some way. The fucking bastards.

    • …………..So the DWP used a bullshit theory of BIOPSYCHOSOCIAL nonsense that was drafted by two crooks working for the private health insurance industry to kill thousands of innocent claimants.

      Government resistance to funding long-term out of work illness/disability benefits followed the 2005 publication of the monograph: The Scientific and Conceptual Basis of Incapacity Benefits (SCBIB) by Gordon Waddell and Mansel Aylward6, followed by the 2006 report: ?Is work good for your health and well-being by Gordon Waddell and Kim Burton.7

      What is constantly overlooked is that both these influential reports were commissioned by the DWP. They were both produced when Aylward and Waddell were funded by Unum Provident Insurance at the Unum Provident Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research (the Centre) at Cardiff University, with funding by the American corporate insurance giant, Unum Provident, from 2003-2009. Aylward is listed as the DWP Chief Medical Adviser until April 20058 and is identified as being appointed as the new Director of the Centre from 2004.9

      Lord David FREUD is the causal link to all the welfare mortality deaths, for it is he who introduced the tainted works of Waddell and Burton to Parliament in an effort to reduce welfare spending……..

      • At UnumProvident we have a non-medical, enabling model of rehabilitation
        and we are working with our partners at the UnumProvident Centre for
        Psychosocial and Disability Research at Cardiff University to better
        understand what places people at risk of long-term or chronic illness.
        Further information about this model can be made available
        to the committee

        ………………To enable the cull of the poorest and disabled, the DWP sought to build a network of carefully selected chess pieces to bring about change…………


        In January 2007 Professor John Langbein of the Yale School of Law produced a paper identified as ‘The Unum Provident Scandal’29 that exposed Unum’s practice of disability denial, and in November 2007 BBC News reported that the British government were being advised by an American insurance company with a reputation for ‘racketeering’ (THE BBC NEWSREEL HAS MYSTERIOUSLY GONE WALKABOUT FROM THE INTERNET)

        Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope

        A previous Chair of the Parliamentary Select Committee on Work and Pensions, Lord Kirkwood of Kirkhope, is listed in the House of Lords Register of Interests (Session 2006-2007) as the Chairman of the Unum Customer Advisory Panel for which he received payment from Unum and additional payments for other work for Unum.

        Extracts from the Report of the Physical Function and Mental Health Technical Working Groups.
        Commissioned by DWP sept 2006.

        There is still work to be done,to test the proposed new assignment in a live environment. This will be done by asking ATOS MEDICAL SERVICES DOCTORS to complete a PCA on incapacity benefit claimants.

        Among the experts cited at being present at the meeting;

        Sue Godby-UNUM PROVIDENT
        Dr Angela Graham-ATOS ORIGIN
        Dr Paul Stidolph-DWP
        Dr Peter Dewis-UNUM PROVIDENT

        The Guardian, Wednesday 12 September 2012 21.00 BST

        This week the sixth International Forum on Disability Management, IFDM 2012, takes place at Imperial College London. It is sponsored by some of the world’s largest medical insurance companies, Unum among them, and speakers include DWP chief medical adviser Dr Bill Gunyeon and Professor Sir Mansel Aylward, formerly DWP chief medical adviser and director of the Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research at Cardiff University, which was sponsored by Unum from its inception in 2003 until 2009.

        Unum’s website states that during this sponsorship period “a series of papers was published, identifying the range of factors that determine why some people become long-term absentees”. The Cardiff papers advocated a “biopsychosocial model” of disability which Unum says “informed its approach to medical underwriting”. It is the same approach upon which the current Atos work capability assessment (WCA) is based. Concomitantly, the company were advising the UK government on welfare reform.

        The Department for Work and Pensions announces today the appointment of Dr Bill Gunnyeon as Chief Medical Adviser, Medical Director and Chief Scientist to the Department for Work and Pensions.

        Currently Medical Director of Capita Health Solutions and President of the Faculty of Occupational Medicine, Dr Gunnyeon will take up post on 1st June 2005.

        He succeeds Professor Mansel Aylward CB who is retiring from the Department at the end of April to take up post as Chair in Psychosocial and Disability Research at Cardiff University and Director of the new UnumProvident Centre at the University. He will also chair the newly established Wales Centre for Health which will lead on improvements in the nation’s health.

        ………………………FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL

        • 18TH MARCH 2008

          Dr Hamish Meldrum, Chairman of British Medical Association (BMA) Council, said: “A Fit for Work service that provides patients with better access to services such as physiotherapy, cognitive behavioural therapy and debt counselling services may be useful ways in which people can be helped back into work and the launch of pilots to investigate this approach is the right way forward.” He gave a more cautious welcome to the “fit notes”, adding: “The GP must continue to act as the patient’s advocate, not a policing arm of the Department for Work and Pensions.

        • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

          Mandortory medical health insurance. Shares anyone !!!

          • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

            How can you get a job if you are homeless. How can you get a job if you can`t put your shoes on. How comes I am now going to work in my shoes walking to the bus & then get off the bus in my socks to get on a train in my socks. Who is the tramp of the system.

    • @paul
      That lying scumball Duncan Smith will need 24/7/365 armed protection for the rest of his life. Sadly we are all paying for it – Smith has enough money so should pay for his own protection.

  27. OT, but for anyone who cares about the health of one person after receiving 350 lashes (admittedly probably not Camoron):
    “Rt Hon David Cameron MP: Intervene and stop Brit grandfather Karl Andree receiving 350 lashes in Saudi Arabia.”

    Yeah yeah sib & nooppression I know, Islamaphobe, right?

  28. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Free Medical Medication Gas at Maximus – WCA in the chamber of gas. So the only way to pass a WCA is murder the HCP. I told you I had tripola. Good choices Murder or the gas chamber.

  29. Reblogged this on perfectlyfadeddelusions and commented:
    Fuck Iain Duncan fucking Smith!

    Fuck you, you are a fucking dick and I hate you so much.

    I am not going to take your shit, I am not going to tell me about my health you fucking wanker, how bloody dare you call think you can.

    Get the tories out of parliament now!

    • paultheswineherd

      The Porcelain Doll – Very well said – I am sure that most on here would totally agree with your views – the Tory pigfuckers.
      Just been up late watching Question Time – one poor working woman has just said that when her Tax Credits are reduced she will be snookered.
      This comment was directed at the Tory Energy Minister Amber Rudd (another completely fucking bitch by the way she’s behaved on there tonight!). I am sure that the Tax Credits issue will eventually be the downfall of this lot – just like the Poll Tax helped Thatcher to go!

      • I watched it as well Paul, the lady was close to tears and shouted, “shame on you”, twice…………..
        Amber Rudd did not know where to look, completely taken aback.

        Hopefully it will lead to a rebellion never seen on our streets for as long as i can remember.

        I would love to drive my fist into the faces of the snooty scumbags who make up most of the audience. They have absolutely no idea of the evil that is being brought upon our lower castes, myself, in particular…..

        Just £33.60p per week to live on for the last 2 years and 3 months.

        …………………….and i am disabled.

        • paultheswineherd

          Geoff – yes, it was quite an eyeopener – I bet that’s she’s now really regretting voting Tory – however, it will hopefully now be all over the News (and possibly the papers also!). I would’nt be too surprised if the ‘audience’ are hand picked to be ‘rich and proud’! The Tories cannot keep all of their terrible cruelty covered up for ever. The U.N. are also now on their case and hopefully they will get to the bottom of it all and embarrass this lunatic shower all over the world – when their report is published – with a bit of luck though perhaps they will get it published promptly.
          Also, that is terrible what they have done to you – making you live on a measly £33.60p per week. That Judge Mark Rowland should be stripped of his title and his job and all of his ‘decisions’ overturned as he seems to have a definite ‘conflict of interest’. Totally corrupt to the core.

  30. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Iain Duncan Smith are 2 people Iain & Duncan.

  31. My niece took a pay cut of several thousand and moved jobs, which included down sizing from a house into a flat and moving to a different town with her partner, rather than continue working in exactly the environment you describe. Funnily enough she worked for a ‘charity’ (I use that description loosely and in fact was 2 charities that merged) contracted to deliver certain elements of government unemployment support/administration systems. At the point that she quit they were in consultation for redundancies. Even though there was a chance she could have waited and either kept her £23k+ job or recieved approx £3k redundancy she took alternative employment at £8k less just to get out of such a stressful environment. As it turned out just as she handed in her notice they had decided to keep her as she wasn’t one of those ‘chosen’ for redundancy. Her view though was, having been threatened with her job for the past couple of years over anything including hospital appointments that could only be attended during work hours, she’d had enough. Decent pay doesn’t necessarily compensate for a miserable, bullying and autocratic work place. To think these 2 merged charities were originally set up to ‘help’ those people unemployed who struggled to engage with the work environment or struggled with disabilities. Now they are actually assisting this government to deliver a system that has seen the very same people victimised and abused by the media and bullied by systems that have led to very real, heart wrenching deaths. There are no words printable to describe my views of the lot of them.
    I really miss my niece as she was also part of my own support system but I would rather struggle myself than see her so badly morally compromised and abused herself by this appalling experiment on the people of Britain. It really is just plain sick.

  32. Hard Times Come Again No More by Stephen Foster, a man whose life ended in tragedy. He gave us over 200 beautiful songs, all American classics. Foster tried to make a living as a composer, but it was difficult, and his wife and daughter eventually left him. Alone and impoverished, he lived in a run down hotel in New York City, and during a bout of illness, fell into a china wash basin, broke it, and cut himself badly. It took three hours for a doctor to arrive, and he died shortly thereafter. Hard Times Come Again No More could have been his personal anthem, even though it speaks of the human condition in general. Thank you, Stephen Foster! I have no doubt that angels are singing your songs!

  33. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Threats are the only way the Tories understand – Sanctions are admin failures not rules.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Failures are rules so it makes them not fit for purpose. You don`t want a paper trial do you DWP & IDS !!!!

  34. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Anyone at any time can appeal against the DWP – Get it in quick before the sanction so everything is halted on the appeal in litigation. I appeal against the DWP`s Admin. So where is the written letter with bar coding on !!! I also [2nd appeal] am appealing against the DWP`s bullying !!! That should keep the DWP busy for a year until I think up new ones.

  35. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    I got 5 axes & a hang man – Read into it & get sectioned at 50 times the cost of pissing off.

  36. But surely standing on your feet all day sorting through pile after pile of brown-stained knickers that smell of rotten fish is better than sitting at home all doing nothing all day? I for one would rather do something than do nothing , and I am sure my erstwhile colleagues would agree.

    • my name is " my, name

      While walking down the street one day a Esther McV is tragically hit by a truck and dies. Her soul arrives in heaven and is met by St. Peter at the entrance. “Welcome to Heaven,” says St. Peter. “Before you settle in, it seems there is a problem. We seldom see a high? official around these parts, you see, so we’re not sure what to do with you.”
      “No problem, just let me in,” says Esther. “Well, I’d like to but I have orders from higher up. What we’ll do is have you spend one day in Hell and one in Heaven. Then you can choose where to spend eternity.”
      “Really, I’ve made up my mind. I want to be in Heaven,” says Esther.
      “I’m sorry but we have our rules..” And with that, St. Peter escorts her to the elevator and she goes down, down, down to Hell. The doors open and she finds herself in the middle of a green golf course.. In the distance is a club and standing in front of it are all her friends and other politicians who had worked with her, everyone is very happy and in evening dress.
      They run to greet her, hug her, and reminisce about the good times they had while getting rich at expense of the people. They play a friendly game of golf and then dine on lobster and caviar. Also present is the Devil, who really is a very friendly guy who has a good time dancing and telling jokes.
      They are having such a good time that, before she realizes it, it is time to go. Everyone gives her a big hug and waves while the elevator rises.
      The elevator goes up, up, up and the door reopens on Heaven where St. Peter is waiting for her.
      “Now it’s time to visit Heaven.” So 24 hours pass with Esther joining a group of contented souls moving from cloud to cloud, playing the harp and singing. They have a good time and, before she realizes it, the 24 hours have gone by and St. Peter returns.
      “Well then, you’ve spent a day in Hell and another in Heaven. Now choose your eternity.” She reflects for a minute, then Esther answers: “Well, I would never have said it, I mean Heaven has been delightful, but I think I would be better off in Hell.”
      So Saint Peter escorts her to the elevator and she goes down, down, down to Hell. Now the doors of the elevator open and she is in the middle of a barren land covered with waste and garbage. She sees all her friends, dressed in rags, picking up the trash and putting it in black bags. The Devil comes over to her and lays his arm on her neck. “I don’t understand,” stammers Esther. “Yesterday I was here and there was a golf course and club and we ate lobster and caviar and danced and had a great time. Now all there is a wasteland full of garbage and my friends look miserable.
      The Devil looks at her, smiles and says, “Yesterday we were campaigning. Today you voted for us!”

    • Aren’t you doing nothing nowadays Esther McVile given that you got sacked? Claiming benefits perhaps? 😉

    • I am pretty sure that you wouldn’t want to be on your feet all day sorting out shitty brown strained underwear, it’s fucking disgusting and a bloody health hazard!

  37. IDS you smug little **** . Where do do get off ordering real sick people to get to work or else. Or else what? You have no power here over us. We are not slaves of the United Kingdom. Or figured on a balance sheet. We are not Mr, Mrs, miss etc. We are human beings and some of those human beings voted you and your boss in office. We can easy vote you out. Your not fit to do your job, you have a mental disorder and need taking out of your position as soon as possible. People say it’s not DWP depth at blame. It’s atos and the other one. Well no its not. The buck stops with the DWP head. And that is with you. Suicides are on your head, no one else’s. For me it’s not suicide that’s murder. And you sir are a serial murderer. I’m sick of the ugly faces you pull when you get your way. It’s disgusting. Anyone who is unable to work, for any reason should be taken as that. Not impsected right down to their cell level to see if their lying or able to do anything. You really need to be knocked off your pedistole and took down a peg or too. To see what the real world looks like. God forbid if you get sick!! You want to walk in my shoes or be in my head for 24hrs? Let’s swap shall we? I guarantee you will quit 1st!! You make me sick, soon as your taken out the better.

  38. eviltorypervert

    look just because you plebs do a days work doesn’t mean were going to pay you.

  39. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The Tory trolls are reading the thread & getting pissed off.

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  41. It’s amazeing and horrifieing how this government are trying to destroy that woman from kids company ,here there trying to make out there’s no such thing as mental illness …..yet there makeing out that both she and Alan yentob are complete loons and idiots .

    • But can anyone actually pronounce “Batmanghelidjh” wtf! This Yentob chappy also used to run the BBC. Amazing how far being totally off your rocker will take you 🙂 A case of the government (DWP) having their cake and eating it 😀

    • Camila And Her Amazing Technicolour Dream Coat

      Maybe if she dressed a little-less colourfully it would help her case…;)

      • Daily heil Hack

        This is how a Daily Heil hack describes Ms Batmanghelidjh

        “Everything about Camila Batmanghelidjh is such a mad muddle – her name, dress-sense, logic, grasp of detail – that you wonder how a supposed intellectual such as Alan Yentob fell for her.

        Perhaps he mistook her for something from one of those Commonwealth novels on the Booker Prize shortlist. Perhaps his patronising egalitarianism just found her too yummily multi-cultural to resist.

        She arrived at Parliament yesterday wrapped in textiles of 100 colours: yellows, pinks, scarlets, greens, indigos, and more tartan that they use in the carpets at Balmoral. She’s as tall and wide as a heavyweight wrestler, with Ronnie Barker spectacles and a Robbie Coltrane chin. Her accent is what a chef might call fusion: West Country by way of Tehran, Brick Lane and the Caribbean.

        Scarlet-painted talons protruded from plaid-patterned, tipless gloves. Her multi-coloured turban rose towards the ceiling, high as a Victorian’s stovepipe hat. On her vast frontage she wore a rosette that would have put Cruft’s to shame. Her outfit was completed by cherry-coloured training shoes and earrings as long as lavatory chains.”

        • I would rather have a million people swathed in a plethora of colours than one odious , evil bastard in a dark blue suit that punches the air and celebrates as the needy are pistol whipped……………

        • Nothing but Daily Smear, isn’t it? To dissect Ms Batmanghelidjh’s dress sense as opposed to what she does. Journalism it isn’t.

  42. Why is the DWP even sending any guidances to GPs? It’s not their department or field of expertise.

    I mean we wouldn’t expect department for education to send guidances to troops in Afghanistan, would we?

    Can this be legally challenged on the above basis? Not that breaking both EU & UK laws ever deterred Iain Duncan Smeg before. How is that UN investigation getting along?

  43. Johnny – Why do you look down on people who have a job making tea, or cleaning toilets? Somebody has to do it.

    • overburdenddonkey

      out of context EL diane, as well you know TROLL….

      • Maybe you should try reading the article before spouting off about context… – “Like making cups of tea all day, or cleaning the bogs”.

      • EL Finder General

        Are they no depths to which EL won’t stoop? … 😀

        • EL Finder General

          EL is a right Master of Disguise… 😀

          • …and only a paranoid moron with a Void between his ears would think that censoring a name can censor a message. Johnny – you agree with shooting messengers, do you? Maybe it’s time you grew up……

            • Johnny – I told you about the futility of shooting the messenger in “Lives of the Noble Greeks and Romans”, which I published nearly 2000 years ago. Do you get it yet?

            • EL: – “you stab it with your steely knife, but you just can’t kill the beast” 😀

            • overburdenddonkey

              wot you saying that people should be allocated/forced to do so called ‘light duty work’, when they’re sick and not fit for work…
              and booting someone out of work who choose’s to do this arduous, attention to detail, service to others, type of work, that the govt clearly doesn’t see as such and neither in fact do you…!!
              need a role model…? only a fool tells others to grow up….

              • Mr Donkey – You seem to be having severe difficulty understanding my argument that “fit for work” is a meaningless generalisation. I will illustrate your stupidity with a question…… Do you think Stephen Hawking is fit for work?

                • EL not everyone is a scientific genius. If only they had a fit for work test that was fit to see if you could work and helped you properly into the sorts of work you could actually do while providing the correct help and equipment to do it, no one would be complaining. I see Stephen Hawking has all the equipment and help he needs to do his job.

                • Maria – Precisely! The point is that there is no such thing as a sensible “fit for work” test, because the phrase itself is meaningless. Professor Hawking perfectly illustrates that point. Some people such as Mr Donkey don’t seem to understand this and persist in using the DWP rhetoric, apparently without realising that they are just playing into their hands.

                • Gobble D Gook

                  Talking of meaningless phrases, here is another DWP favourite: “We expect you to do all you can do to find work”. Now read that back exactly does “We expect you to do all you can do to find work” mean?

              • overburdenddonkey

                WCA?? who mentioned the WCA…?? i never mentioned the WCA…where on earth are you getting that from…?
                you’re making things up, nothing new there though…
                i responded to ‘Johnny – Why do you look down on people who have a job making tea, or cleaning toilets? Somebody has to do it….’ WCA not mentioned there…i responded; ‘out of context EL diane, as well you know TROLL….’, &, ‘wot you saying that people should be allocated/forced to do so called ‘light duty work’, when they’re sick and not fit for work…
                and booting someone out of work who choose’s to do this arduous, attention to detail, service to others, type of work, that the govt clearly doesn’t see as such and neither in fact do you…!!
                need a role model…? only a fool tells others to grow up….’ no WCA mentioned there neither…

                • Mr Donkey – I think you’re having a little comprehension problem just at the moment, because I didn’t mention WCA either. Maybe you should take it easy and try again in the morning when your mind is refreshed.

                • you must be very lonely. oh well, bye again.

                • overburdenddonkey

                  yeah you did’; ‘The point is that there is no such thing as a sensible “fit for work” test,’ which is the WCA…

                • Mr Donkey – I said that there is no such thing as a “fit for work” test, so how could I possibly have been referring to something which DOES exist?

          • EL is like Dr Who 🙂 S/he/it keeps ‘regenerating’. S/he/it is now on its nth ‘regeneration’ 🙂

    • Tea Lady and Feacal and Urinal Deposit Facility Cleaning Engineer

      “Somebody has to do it.”… just so long as it isn’t YOU, “Diane” 😀

      • You know once I was on this really good placement for six months, it was a time when placements were still actually voluntary and sanctions were only heard of if you actually attacked any of the jobcentre staff; I actually did volunteer to do it. You could tell it was decent, because everyone took it in turns to wash up, make tea and clean the toilets. The boss did it too and no one was treated any different and they really did train you up in all possible aspects of the job. But places like that are rare, especially these days. there is nothing wrong with cleaning toilets and making cups of teas, as long as you truly do want to volunteer to do it or that you are paid a decent wage and treated and employed properly for doing it. And not asked to do ridiculous Jobs like poor Marie had to do.

  44. David Rahman Noodles

    Mental illness is all in the mind 😀 😀

    • …but not necessarily in the mind of the person who supposedly has it!

      • EL Finder General

        What you trying to say “Diane”/EL? “Malingerer”? lol 😀 Spit it out! 😀

        • … the accusation that people who refuse to conform to a social or religious norm must necessarily be mentally ill.

          • ‘Mental illness’ 😉 can be both politically motivated and socially constructed. 😀 😀

            • Tea Lady and Feacal and Urinal Deposit Facility Cleaning Engineer

              Yeah like if you don’t want to make cups of tea all day and clean the bogs for jack-shit (with a great big stupid grin on your face 😀 😀 ) whilst your slave-masters coin it in and live high on the hog “there must be something wrong with YOU”.

              • Are you saying that nobody should ever make tea or clean toilets? Or that they should be paid a living wage to do so? I fully agree with the latter, but the former is the ranting of an idiot.

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  I always spill the tea & block up the toilets so they won`t even alow me to make tea or clean the toilets because I do it all wrong.

          • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

            “”… the accusation that people who refuse to conform to a social or religious norm must necessarily be mentally ill.”””

            Go & take your medication Diane !!!

        • I suspect you can’t see the irony of your title “[whatever] Finder General”, can you?

    • my name is " my, name

      David Rahman Psychiatric? Hotline
      IF YOU ARE obsessive-compulsive, please press 1 repeatedly.
      IF YOU ARE co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2.
      IF YOU HAVE multiple personalities, please press 3, 4, 5, and 6.
      IF YOU ARE paranoid-delusional, we know who you are and what you want. Just stay on the line so we can trace the call.
      IF YOU ARE schizophrenic, listen carefully and a little voice will tell you which number to press.
      IF YOU ARE depressed, it doesn’t matter which number you press. No one will answer.
      IF YOU ARE delusional and occasionally hallucinate, please be aware that the thing you are holding on the side of your head is alive an alien about to bite off your ear.

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  46. The Tories are overwhelmingly Tossers and those who Vote for them are
    like Brainwashed Nazi Scum

    Nazi Scum Out of Office No to Dictatorship and Oppression

  47. I Feel Sad for those who have been Driven to Suicide because of the
    Evil Policies of the Tories with Liberal Democrat and Labour Rightist

    As for those who Voted for Them After all the Human Suffering between
    May 2010 AD to March 2015 AD to call them Nazi Scum would be a

  48. I Notice that Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as Secretary
    of State For Work and Pensions Now has over 112,350 Signatures

    Why after All the Human Suffering from May 2010 AD is this Man Still
    in Office ?

    It is Beyond an Outrage

  49. When you Are DEAD!!

    Those pre-pay funerals, life insurance, over-50-80s, free pen just for enquiring tv ads really do me head in. “When you are no longer around”, “when you pass on”, “when you are gone”. Why can’t they just say DEAD!! ffs!!

    • Gone where? Popped out to the shops lol Another thing is that the free “Parker” pen they send “just for enquiring” isn’t a “real” Parker pen like you would find in the shops. It is one of those tiny pens with you find in the bookies with only enough ink in it to sign the direct debit like ‘charities’ send out with “Parker” badly printed on it.

      • You seldom have a need to subscribe to a prepaid funeral plan nowadays because the private health insurance company’s that advise the DWP ON welfare strategy have come up with a corker of an idea………..


        This is only good commercial thinking, lower the payment threshhold to create a good marketing strategy.
        Nobody would invest in a zoo where most of the livestock was limping !

        Lord David Fraud let the cat out of the bag when he made reference to the long term disabled as, “Stock”, although hansard kindly rewrote it as something completely different to avoid embarrassment.

        Equally Fraud made no mistake when he spouted that the disabled were not worth a normal wage and the sum of £2 per hour was mentioned.

        It was also Lord Fraud who introduced the observers book of medical bullshit to the government, the one that Johnny cites in his intro, Wddell and Burtons Eugenics manual…………………..

        Lord Fraud has no place in medicine, even his distant relative, Sigmund is now looked upon as a pure rambling nutter.

        Between him and Lady Muck, Dame Carol Black, the DWP body count has got out of control……………….

        Being typical Tory scumsuckers, they refuse to analyse their chronic mistakes, instead, pressing on ahead with a recipe for death.

        They know that they have fucked up big style, they are now just arranging the deckchairs on the Titanic……………….

        As the body count rises, they will fall, their prophecy of terror, self fulfilling.

        …………as for DUNKO THE CLOWN, Broadmoor has a closed door policy.

        • Lock the bald bastard in broadmoor with pig fucker Cameron, and make em sort out bin bags full of stinking shit strained, fishy knickers all day, that’ll finish them off!

    • Another Fine Mess

      Perhaps they could just say ‘When you’re no longer fit for work’.


  50. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Do the DWP organise funerals – Is that what signing up with the DWP really is.

  51. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Iain Duncan Smith’s flagship Universal Credit roll-out is actually slowing

    The scheme has been plagued by problems and delays since its launch

    Independent – 14th Oct 2015

    In 2013 the DWP was forced to write off £34m of IT work on the project after problems and serious criticism, from the National Audit Office, who criticised its “weak management, ineffective control and poor governance”.

    The whole roll-out was originally due to be complete by 2015/16 but has now shifted back to 2020.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Since it is not going to be completed until 2020 the DWP can`t close down SDA until 2020 make that 2025.

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  53. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    • If you divide the latest DWP write off of £34 million pounds by the 2380 that they have laid to rest, it will give you a rough estimate of the value the DWP put on a human life…………

      Likewise, if you factor in the savings generated by stealing my disablement benefit of £236 per week (now £33.60p), a total of £202.40, then project this over just one year, the DWP has gained £10,524.80p, minus my huge christmas bonus of course………………

      I am now sixty years old and if i live to be around the median of 76, they will have achieved a saving of £168 thousand, three hundred and ninety six pounds (at todays rates)


      Now project the savings from just myself across the whole spectrum of welfare cuts and it will make you realise just what rich pickings the private health insurers wish to control……………….

      • and the only way the private health insurers could get their grubby hands on the welfare payments pot, was to enter a tryst with our government that allowed the introduction of fake medical reports……………..

        Enter, ATOS, CAPITA, SEETEC AND MAXIMUS, the pickpockets of the private healthcare insurance industry.

        The rest is just history…………..

        or so they think!

        Watch this space as the tentacles of litigation fighs back………..

        • How strange that the Dwp are running scared of answering this simple freedom of information request.
          Do you think in some far, distant way, it may have significance on the hidden mortality rates?

          From: Shona Scott

          9 September 2015

          Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

          Assessments are carried out on behalf of the department to see if
          people are fit for work.
          Please tell me who carries out these assessments, how many people
          they interview and how many were found fit for work in 2011, 2012,
          2013 and 2014.

          Please provide any guidelines issued for these assessments

          Please give the minimum medical qualifications of the people who
          carry out these assessments for them to be valid

          Yours faithfully,

          Shona Scott

          Link to this

          • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

            WIKI: Work Capability Assessment

            The WCA in practice[edit]

            The process starts with a healthcare professional approved by the DWP scrutinizing the ESA claim form and deciding whether to seek further evidence from the claimant’s GP or another appropriate source. If the evidence shows that a claimant probably has both limited capability for work and limited capability for work-related activity (in other words: the claimant would be likely to get a ‘top score’ for certain functional activities, or a non-functional descriptor would probably apply) then a face-to-face assessment is not normally required, the claimant is recommended for the Support Group and the higher rate of ESA is usually granted. Otherwise, the healthcare professional arranges a face-to-face assessment – usually in an examination centre, but occasionally in the claimant’s home.

            At face-to-face assessments, the assessors – who are nurses, doctors, physiotherapists or occupational therapists – are guided and prompted by a computer programme, designed by Atos in conjunction with the DWP, called the ‘Logic-integrated Medical Assessment’ or ‘LiMA’ (despite no longer carrying out WCAs directly, Atos is still paid by the DWP to operate LiMA because Atos owns the software, although the DWP owns the intellectual property rights). A large amount of lifestyle data and some clinical information is obtained from the claimant and is entered into the computer by the assessor. As the assessment progresses, LiMA tries to gauge both the impact of the disability on the person’s daily life and the person’s fitness for work – but while LiMA suggests options to the assessor, it is ultimately the healthcare professional who is responsible for making the recommendations.

            As well as taking a clinical history and exploring the claimant’s ‘Typical Day’, the healthcare professional will make general observations of the claimant’s hearing, mobility and posture, etc. and there may be a short physical examination. The claimant’s mental state will to a large degree become apparent as the interview progresses, but specific questions might be asked in order to elucidate any disordered thinking, abnormalities of perception or cognitive impairment.

            During the face-to-face assessment, if it becomes clear that the claimant qualifies for the Support Group on the grounds of severe functional disability, the interview should be brought to an early close and the finding recorded on the claimant’s file.

            After the interview and examination the findings are summarised in free text using Standard English prose, and a typed report – largely, apart from the summary, constructed from modified pre-set LiMA options – is sent electronically to the DWP. This report attempts to describe the claimant’s ‘Typical Day’ and to justify the recommendation by comparing and contrasting the disabilities described by the claimant against the criteria – the descriptors – constituting the legal framework of the test[29][30] (as well as considering the other factors, such as whether there would be a substantial risk if the claimant were declared fit for work). This report normally concludes with the points score intended to reflect the level of disability together with a final recommendation on fitness for work and a work-related prognosis. If the assessment is carried out in the claimant’s home, the report is usually written by hand and is substantially shorter (normally, only doctors are authorised to write reports by hand, i.e. without using LiMA).

            If assessors encounter practical difficulties or are unsure how to apply the test’s criteria in specific cases, telephone advice is available.

            These assessments[31] have been criticised for their repetitive impersonal style, while the reports have been criticised for several aspects of their overall quality and for the accuracy of their recommendations.[32][33] Poor evidence-gathering before an assessment and a perceived reluctance to recommend claimants for the Support Group are specific and longstanding criticisms. The reliability of LiMA in gauging disability has never been independently demonstrated.

            In September 2015, the Multiple Sclerosis Society of Great Britain produced a report describing the experiences of 1,780 of its members who had undergone DWP disability assessments. 57% said the test did not accurately measure the effect of their condition, while more than a third felt the face-to-face assessment had caused their condition to relapse or deteriorate.[34]


            • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

              Healthcare professional approved by the DWP = ESA50 signature.

              • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                “”””Atos is still paid by the DWP to operate LiMA because Atos owns the software, although the DWP owns the intellectual property rights). “”””

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

                  Publish Laws AKA Data Protection Act

                • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System


                  One strategy adopted by the firm to boost the number of assessors was to raise the top pay offered to new nurses to almost £40,000 a year. In September 2015, anonymous healthcare professionals who had failed their basic training at Maximus complained to Private Eye that they had been “lured” from secure NHS jobs by the prospect of a substantial pay rise, only to find themselves unemployed when they failed the historically tight tests imposed by the DWP on its assessment providers.[100] In response, Maximus said: “Inevitably, some people do not meet the required standard or voluntarily exit”.

  54. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The DWP don`t like to talk or write about their contracts or anything about their HCP`s – Why don`t the DWP like talking about HCP`s since they have contracted them for a public service with public money. Atos, Capita, Maximus, G4S, Serco – It is the DWP`s responsibility & all these companies will tell you it`s the DWP`s responsibility. So DWP answer the question !!!!!

  55. This Needs to be Completely Opposed and Stopped Universal Credit

    Stepping Razor Sound Plate System | October 16, 2015 at 1:42 pm | Reply

    Iain Duncan Smith’s flagship Universal Credit roll-out is actually slowing

    The scheme has been plagued by problems and delays since its launch

    Independent – 14th Oct 2015

    In 2013 the DWP was forced to write off £34m of IT work on the project after problems and serious criticism, from the National Audit Office, who criticised its “weak management, ineffective control and poor governance”.

    The whole roll-out was originally due to be complete by 2015/16 but has now shifted back to 2020.

  56. Forced Labour is Slave Labour Pure and Simple

  57. I hope somebody tells Sue Marsh about this.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      Sue is to busy on twitter

      Sue Marsh ‏@suey2y · Oct 14
      How to win Masterchef : use fennel/pastis/star anise in everything. Make pastry/pasta. Add offal. Et voila!

  58. OT: Tax Credits coming Home to Roost for Tory Voters

  59. Interesting read. Didn’t know the bit about Atos closing the program down for 5 mins! 😀

  60. OT: Over 50’s Employablity & yesterdays barmy

    Had a new over 50s Employablity Course. Ladies were nice but clearly uninformed of the traps set out by DWP a] cannot take full time course to retrain – sanctioned, b] over qualified so cannot be taken on as seen as a threat or too costly or not selling yourself enough [cue film Intern, “So Where do you see yourself in 5 years” Answer “I’m 77”] c] Everyone totally unaware of the current changes to Benifits or the one coming in 6Apr16 – and the impact on people on zero hour contracts/self employed etc. Pointed out that this is what Tory Voters wanted.

    Some useful tips, not enough direct help to the diverse problems, or obvious ones over 50s face. How much can you get done for 20+ people in 2 hours?

    Not the ladies fault though. Said would be asking DWP about the changes and people laughed – pointed out that HMRC/DWP has been caught lying in past so good luck on that.

    I had my suspicions about the booking itself – and 10minutes in was called out by management. I told them conversation ended before they could say anything, they called me to come back but I went back to the course. Not even a How are you today, just in my face. Obviously management think I am a fool. Good.

  61. paultheswineherd

    Just seen a report on BBC 6PM News re Question Time last night & the exchange between the Tax Credits lady and Amber Rudd (the bitch of a Tory Energy Secretary). It is a breath of fresh air to see a report like this broadcast on the News at peak time viewing – let’s hope that this is the start of a fight back and long may it continue. Perhaps the Tories ‘good luck’ is finally coming to an end I hope!

    • paultheswineherd,

      the cupboards bare and they can find no more money to pay of the fool proles that fell for their bumf – or rather they no longer want to as the proles have served their purpose so no need for them from here on…

  62. OT: Cuts to Benefits

    hat-tip to unemployment net

    Coming Soon to your City the Hit new Stage Show “Let them starve on the Streets”

    • Duh

      Actually its unemploymentmovement

    • That is chilling reading. Now they’re going to cut people’s benefits because they’ve been unemployed for a certain amount of time and also because they may stay at home with family or friends!! So they don’t get housing benefit that people who live independently get. Why should their benefit be cut over and above that?

      What a friggin’ shithole this country is and every day it just keeps getting worse and worse.

      • It is the Isle of Man but you know it’ll be extended… before the proles rise up that is…

        • Yeah i read it all. It’s IOM but if they swallow it without making a stand they’ll roll it out here on the mainland UK too. You can count on it.

          So these cockroaches decide that because you may stay at home that your money is to be cut? Why’s that? You’re a human being who needs food water etc same as anyone else. People living in their own house already get a higher rate of benefits to cover that through getting HB and CTB. Also if they have kids they’ll get a higher rate of benefits.

          So over and above that they want a single person to get shafted further and their benefits reduced? Also bear in mind they might be forcing the affected people to do workfare for that reduced pittance as well!

          Makes you wonder where it’ll all end doesn’t it.

          • Labour Exchange

            Back in the day claimants who ran their own households got paid a premium. This was in recognition of the fact that it does costs more to run a household and it is more costly in comparison to claimants who live with friends/family.

      • Part of the ‘rationale’ behind this is the DWP know that the claimants who ‘fail to attend’ schemes etc. are in the main the ones who don’t live independently. Furthermore, it is predominantly young people living at home with their parents who ‘fail to attend’ schemes etc. They have a roof over their head, their parents put food on the table so it is not such a big deal if they get sanctioned. But being sanctioned is a lot bigger deal if you have bills to pay and are trying to keep a roof over your head. Can see the DWP going after this group so that they are more ‘amenable’ to workfare schemes etc. and won’t just ‘fail to attend’. We see this group in the jobcentre; they just shrug their shoulders and laugh when they are told they have been sanctioned, but we also see older claimants breaking down in tears when told similar.

        • Fuck the jobcentre and their shit

          The only people you see on these fucking schemes are the ones who don’t have any choice. You will never see a middle-class/rich nobhead shovelling shit for jack-shit. And parents with dosh aren’t going to let their kids go on these health-destroying, demeaning, humiliating, soul-destroying, back-breaking slave labour schemes. It is always the poor that suffer, has always been the case.

    • paultheswineherd

      Gazza – that is dreadful and as as Raining has said, it could be rolled out across the rest of the UK before too long – they will soon require that everyone on benefits will get nothing – these cruel and heartless bastards have got to be stopped.



  63. OT: Replacement for Work Programme [Plus]

    And unemploymentmovement spotted something else – ME: “this is not going to end well”:

    • have only got internet access in the library mate and for the past couple of days evert time I try to get on um all I get is a big SpamWall is activated for your IP address. must be a right fucking clown who runs um

      • Boycott Work is now testing for privacy-friendly 🙂 But this obstinate fucker of a UM site is still determined to deny its visitors their privacy. Wikileaks of course is testing privacy friendly. Given the recent Snowden revelations revealing how we are all been tracked, traced and profiled on the internet privacy denying website ought to be named and shamed.


        • In the same way anti-virii companies make virii the guv’mint post all sort of shit and spam to the web just to piss of webmasters so they will sign up to some privacy-denying ‘solution’ made by the guv’mint agents.

    • paultheswineherd

      Gazza – That promises to be another disaster in the making – however, I suspect that there will be very many ‘money/contract hungry companies, (not to mention individuals also!) that will be ganging up to get their wicked teeth into the financial pies that will be handed to them by the Tories/DWP.
      The whole thing is absolutely sickening.

      • paultheswineherd

        I totally agree – but unfortunately we will have to wait until the first documented injury/death comes in with a family that have money to take it to the courts – the shit will hit the fan then – statistically it will happen and no amount of arm twisting will stop it. Good luck anyone telling a family to stop their exposure of the lies and outright cruelty of this Nazi planned system.

    • WORK PROGRAMME PLUS. To me that sounds like more bullying, persecution, sanctions and workfare, when are these bastards going to stop.

  64. Survivor of 7/7 bombings is subjected to disability hate crime after the terrorist attack left him in a wheelchair

  65. Pingback: How The DWP Is Drafting In Doctors To Promote Iain Duncan Smith’s Warped Ideology | Launchpad: By and for mental health service users

  66. “Work is good for your healthand wellbeing”, is too cosy to
    “Arbeit Macht Frei” the phrase that was emblazoned above the gates at Auschwitz.

    • paultheswineherd

      Dave – Iain Duncan Smith needs to be sent back there – gassed, and then unceremoniously thrown into the nearest oven to fry.

      • Libraries gave us power
        Then work came and made us free
        What price now for a shallow piece of dignity…

      • paultheswineherd

        The same treatment should also be given to Rupert Murdoch, for being an arch-liar and for deliberately covering up (aided and abetted by his despicable journalists) what this Government has done and is still doing to it’s own claimants, poor, sick and disabled people, with the oven fires being stoked up by throwing in back copies of ‘The Sun’.

  67. Landlord Tory MP Philip Davies says UK law requiring homes be fit for human habitation is an unnecessary burden

  68. We can all sit here and attack the WCA ad nauseam but what is the Labour Party proposing to replace it, given that they commissioned the WCA and replaced Incapacity Benefit with ESA in the first place.

    It was clear as far back as 2010 when I had my first WCA overturned by tribunal that the whole system was unfit for purpose. That was when I first read about Mansel Aylward and his twisted ideas that depression could be ‘cured’ by work, no matter how serious or debilitating it might currently be.

    Unless the proposals of the party now in opposition accept and admit that they made a massive mistake that has damaged millions of people in this country, we have NO HOPE of getting anything better regardless of who is sitting in No. 10 Downing Street.

    While I appreciate that Launchpad may give voice to those who have suffered under this regime, it is now about time it moved on, The writers and campaigners have to come up with some concrete and workable alternatives that will ensure that real malingerers are not allowed to thrive forever on benefits, and will return to a claimant’s primary health carers providing the main weight of evidence in any discussion about fitness for work

    I hoped that some kind of policy statement and way forward might have emerged from this year’s Labour Party conference, but it seems that even a new and radical leader is not quite radical enough to start to unpick his Party’s biggest and most destructive mistake in a generation.

    • Langstone Havant?

    • overburdenddonkey

      labour party who are they…??
      the WCA inc eandsa, sanctions and conditionality should be scrapped, no need for a replacement….how about a unconditional basic income…?

      • you are still in dreamland. Get it through your head that someone or some party with the will to change the system HAS to be in power. And as things are there is diddly squat chance that will happen. Where is the money to fund your ‘unconditional basic income’ going to come from? Agreed it ought to come by slashing the salaries of those in Parliament, but it won’t….

        • overburdenddonkey

          no i live in scotland, of course they have to be in power, but there is no need for insults, as for UBI check it out…bye…

          • what exactly are you considering an insult? The people of Scotland didn’t vote for independence – get over it.

            • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

              Politics can`t help you !!!!

            • @Jenny Fletcher
              “didn’t vote for independence” only by a very narrow margin, especially as the Indyref was rigged, as was our recent General Election. Looks like a new Indyref is now likely to happen in the near future.

              • paultheswineherd

                wildswimmerpete – Well said – not only was the Scottish Referendum rigged, but so was the May 2015 General Election – only about 25% of the population actually voted for the Conservatives – and the bastards still got in!

      • overburdenddonkey

        your message is in 2 places @ once, on one hand telling us we must come up with changes to the system to/and improve it, come up with a new ‘acceptable’ system that has anti ‘malingerers’ policies in built and/or accept the system were in, that we have no power in any case to change or implement changes in the system…and that our GP’s/ NHS decisions are crap… dwp’s own figs; 0.7% fraud more lost in admin errors,..£16bn/yr is unclaimed..jsa costs £4bn/yr..
        basically you’re telling us we’re no longer individuals, to shut up, be impotent, and accept our lot…

        • overburdenddonkey

          typo; ‘that our minds and our GP’s/ NHS decisions/judgments are crap…’

          • overburdenddonkey

            pps you’re also implying to me that you want us to do all of your work and that you are a red tory… we lost indyref did we…?!
            this was 3 wks ago in glasgow….

    • jenny – “that will ensure that real malingerers are not allowed to thrive forever on benefits,”???????????????

  69. Because unfortunately there ARE people who exploit any benefits system if they can and I’ve met a few in my lifetime. Are you suggesting that it could be discounted as an acceptable outcome of creating a system that recognized real illness and disability and helped genuine suffers? Please try to remain in the real world of actual possibility.

  70. correction “despite (presumably) not having a gp qualification” should read “despite you (presumably) not having a gp qualification”

  71. Looks like Michelle Mone’s fitting right in – I hear she gave Camoron a tart in pullover.
    Baroness Mone of Mayfair was swore an oath of allegiance to the Queen flanked by the Welfare minister Lord Freud (left) and Tory peer Baroness Morris of Bolton (right)

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    • paultheswineherd

      Fellow JCP Sufferer/Customer – You are definitely right there mate – Michelle Mone (Cameron’s Eutrepreneure Tzar – (Ha Ha)) – her Company is quickly going down the toilet pan – they’ve lost (I think!) something like £500,000 in the last year. Not good! But – not to worry – she is going to be Lady Mone (just like a porn movie!) in the House of Loungers & Scroungers – what is she going to do with all of her ‘expenses’ and all of that time on her hands – she will be bored out of her tiny mind.

      • paul – I never thought of that “Lady Mone (just like a porn movie!)” 😀 I hear they called her Lady Mone of Mayfair because there wasn’t a part of London called Playboy! £300 a day! wow – with all the time on her hands maybe she could do some cooking, take it round to Camoron’s house when his wife is elsewhere – I hear he’s very fond of Pigs in Blankets! Yes, her mind obviously is tiny, otherwise she wouldn’t be looking so pleased in the picture of her flanked by IBS and Gidiot. There’s never been a better time to be a failed businesswoman – who needs business success when you’re in government – although her nose job and lipo must have given one surgeon great business.

  72. How Utterly Out of Touch for Anyone to Say it does Not Matter if Homes should be Fit for Human Habitation by UK Law

    What a Pisstake

    sian | October 16, 2015 at 9:48 pm | Reply

    Landlord Tory MP Philip Davies says UK law requiring homes be fit for human habitation is an unnecessary burden

  73. Anyone who Thinks Adolf Hero is Stupid and Out of Touch and in
    Cloud Cuckooland

    Adolf Hitler is a Genocidial Cruel Tyrant who led Germany to

  74. Notice Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as
    Secretary of State For Work and Pensions Now has over
    112,400 Signatures

  75. If People Forget History then can end up Repeating it

    Adolf Hitler and the Nazis Pushed Euthanasia Eugenics
    Victimised the Poor and Vulnerable with their Sick
    Survival of the Fittest Mentality and Undermined
    Political and Religious Freedom of Speech

    No to Nazism in Britain Now and Forever

    • What a marvellous entity the Health and Safety Executive are………………

      They can instigate charges against Stafford Hospital Trust for the alleged deaths of four patients but are oblivious to the 2380 who died after being found fit for work.

      It’s almost as if somebody is controlling them, don’t you think?

      ……………….and as for you Jenny Fletcher, comments like this do you no good whatsoever.

      “some concrete and workable alternatives that will ensure that real malingerers are not allowed to thrive forever on benefits”

      Choose your side carefully as your twisted rhetoric exposes you for what you really are,

      ………………bitter and twisted.

      I understand what your objectives are, and therefore where you are coming from, noting you have been blogging for over five years on a similar theme.

      But please do not use words like malingerers as it serves only to give your opponents ammunition to come back at you.


      • A hard days work never killed anybody, did it, GEOFF?

        Yet the D.w.p. latest mortality score says otherwise.
        I often wonder who penned the phrase, “A hard days work never killed anyone”.

        Perhaps it was a Mill owner, a deep south cotton plantation owner or a tory M.P.

        One thing is for sure;

        “It was definetely not the person doing the graft!!!!”


    If you go to your keypads and type in the aforementioned heading on google, it takes you instantly to the Cardiff University website and strangely to the report done by Waddell and Burton that was financed by the UNUM private health insurers with the aid of ex chief medical officer of the DWP, Mansel AYLWARD.

    How odd that the only true reference to not working and it’s incumbent health risk should be associated to the findings of a major PRIVATE HEALTH INSURER.

    • Prof Rutherford wrote that Unum had also been “building its influence” in a variety of ways over a number of years. He said that in 2001 Le Cascio was a key player at a ground-breaking conference at Woodstock near Oxford, titled “Malingering and Illness Deception”. Malcolm Wicks, Labour work minister at the time, and Mansel Aylward, then chief medical officer at the DWP, were among the 39 delegates.

      In the same year, Unum launched a public private partnership to act as a pressure group to extend influence in policymaking. And in 2004 it opened the £1.6m UnumProvident Centre for Psychosocial and Disability Research at Cardiff University. (The centre has since been renamed and Unum says it no longer provides any funding – no doubt because of claims that academic integrity could be called into question by its influence.)

      Unum has been lobbying, sitting on expert groups and hosting meetings at party conferences of all colours ever since. And lo and behold, in May this year, Unum’s then medical officer Prof Michael O’Donnell jumped ship to become chief medical officer at Atos. He barely had time to catch his breath before giving evidence to the Commons committee looking at the welfare reform bill.

      But Unum is once again denying any conflict of interest “since our current work with the DWP and our marketing campaign are different.” It said its current consultation work is about helping people return to work and its advertising campaign was educational and does not support tightening benefit changes.

      Meanwhile disability activists who have fallen foul and been forced to appeal cuts in DWP benefits based on flawed Atos assessments, and campaigning groups like Black Triangle, think the whole thing stinks and are urging MPs to investigate.

      • @GEOFF

        Is Doctor PETER DEWIS, who worked for the Dwp mixed up with private health insurance industry?
        All the pieces of the jigsaw are starting to come together. The conflict of interests of those who worked at the Dwp and have links to the UNUM corporation are huge.
        AYLWARD, GUNNYEON, DEWIS have connections to outside private medical or insurance contractors, in fact the last chief medical officer of the Dwp, GUNNYEON, is now working for MAXIMUS HEALTHCARE.

        The whole system is being deliberately handed over to the health insurance on a plate by these crooks who totally ignore the deaths that they have helped to create.



          This is Peter Dewis BSc MB ChB DDAM MRCP, UNUM’s UK Customer Care Director.

          ‘DDAM’ is the Diploma in Disability Assessment Medicine, a qualification whose training and accreditation is delivered by ATOS ORIGIN.
          For sixteen years prior to taking up his current position at UNUM (which commenced in 2000) Dr Dewis held a post with the UK Government’s Department of Social Security (the precursor to today’s DWP). He seems to have worked his way through levels of the DSS, as UNUM describe him as having held ‘claims management, managerial and policy roles’ there. (I would link to the Unum web resource for this, but like quite a lot of their ‘old’ publicity material the hyperlink has disappeared, so the account only remains as an excerpt within a Nexis search result.)

  77. lfc lee 6 months ago
    The Manics who sing this song are Welsh and the song is about Welsh Miners who went out to fight in the Spanish civil war in their thousands believing in Socialism and to fight for Socialism against Fascism in Spain,
    in the belief that Socialism was the way forward but it was all in vain, hence the Internationale in the beginning of the song and at the end of the song.

    The future teaches you to be alone
    The present to be afraid and cold
    So if I can shoot rabbits
    Then I can shoot fascists

    • No it’s not. It is about the Anarchists who went to the polling booths to vote for Jeremy Corbyn in the 2020 General Election thinking that Labour was the way forward but it was all in vain 😀

  78. 46m
    BoycottWorkfare @boycottworkfare
    Sorry to hear report @PATCHcharity use conscripts instead of genuine volunteers? Surely can’t be true? #workfare #sanctions produce hardship

    Tracy PATCH
    Oct 3

    to me
    HI Sian

    We are registered with one of the work placement groups but I cant remember which one, sorry

    The answer then is I think so

    Not much help really


    Tracy OLIN
    Coordinator, PATCH Charity
    p:01646 699275 | m:07775 571431 | w:
    a: Haven’s Head Business Park, Milford Haven, Pembs, SA73 3LD

  79. PATCHcharity Christmas Toy Appeal Launch 2015

    Spot the two Tory MPs, Stephen Crabb and Simon Hart

  80. PATCH Charity delivers all the foodbanks in Pembrokeshire.

  81. United Nation’s investigation in the UK concerning the human rights of disabled people- submission deadline.

    A United Nations team have arrived in the UK and it’s understood they will visit Manchester, London, Bristol, as well as parts of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    The team will be gathering direct evidence from individuals about the impact of government austerity measures, with a focus on benefit cuts and sanctions; cuts to social care; cuts to legal aid; the closure of the Independent Living Fund (ILF); the adverse impact of the Work Capability Assessment (WCA); the shortage of accessible and affordable housing; the impact of the bedroom tax on disabled people, and also, the rise in disability hate crime.

    The deadline for evidence submissions to the UNCRPD is thought to be 31 October.

      • Me,

        I will look into this – write up what’s happened & then wait and see what management comes up in a weeks time. They’ve put themselves between a rock and a hard place – no matter what they do there will be trouble for someone. The question is do they realize how serious it is? No letter as promised by a senior which is explicit – I escalate.

        • I too will.

          “it’s understood they will visit Manchester, London, Bristol, as well as parts of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.”

          “The deadline for evidence submissions to the UNCRPD is thought to be 31 October”.

  82. Thanks Enigma

  83. …we are all individuals…

  84. In a hard-hitting speech First Minister Nicola Sturgeon told the SNP conference in Aberdeen that “we must face the immigrant crisis head on” and that “I will send as many machine-guns as it takes to secure Europe’s borders”

    Sturgeon: “Send Them Back To Where They Came From”

    • Twice today i have been asked about an underground document called, “Home Visit”.
      Being slightly naive i thought it was a reference to doctors. It has in a way, but is more sinister than i first thought.

      “Home Visit is a list of all judges and magistrates that have been involved in decisions that have left the poor and disabled in dire straits
      It lists their home address and family members.
      The list, that is expanding fast, also shows the names and addresses of Health Care Professionals and doctors that have made similar judgements that have left persons at risk.

      Each district is utting forward lists of names and addresses and is gathering momentum at fever pitch. The bad feeling has been building for a long time now and it seems that tribal law will soon unleash it’s own brand of retribution.

      For too long those who have been seen to wield almighty power may soon be expecting a dose of their own treatment.

      What worries me is the lynch mob mentality when face to face with the oppressors.

      I expected to see something like this to happen, the policians and advisors must have been walking round in a daze.

      Long ago i was told that there was a price on a prominent ministers head. Only time will tell……………….

  85. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – That’s interesting – well well!
    As you say, it would be only a matter of time before something like this happened!

  86. @Geoff
    Can you tell me whether that list is accessible using normal methods or does one need to access via the darknet (ie Tor)?

    • Not sure how you will access it but the content was mind blowing. You would not have thought that this much information was available. It is being held from prying eyes so it will not be available on the darknet.

      It just goes to show that nobody is safe from reprisal and the amount of hardware on the streets is mindboggling.

  87. yes geoff
    how can i access this list?



    Video for jayson carmichaels bedroom tax war▶ 4:43

  89. @GEOFF

    The wankers of Westminster will be pulling their hair out now the EU Human Rights inspectors are here.
    Quite odd that none of the major news channels have covered the story but you can’t bite the hand that controls you even though it’s our fees that keep the BBC afloat.

    The WOW will be trying to shoehorn the inspectors visit into the La la land of milk and honey where the pavements are made of gold, trying to steer them from the broken starving communities than run on empty. that feature disabled families robbed of basic support.

    Keep up the good work, education is a blessing.

    • paultheswineherd

      sarah7 – unfortunately this will NOT be covered by ANY of the standard press or BBC or Sky News – they will want to support, at all costs, the status quo – they will want to support the Tories at all costs.
      The BBC will support everything and Sky will support everything.

  90. paultheswineherd

    Geoff – thanks for putting this on. Good for Jayson Carmichael for doing this – the Bedroom Tax is totally immoral. The U.N. people should look at this – AND – where is (still!) the European Court of Human Rights – they are saying and doing absolutely NOTHING – are Cameron & the Tories paying them to do this – I would really like to know.
    In addition to this, me and my family are most likely going to be hit by the Tax Credits deductions next year – talk about making the ‘pips squeak’ – these Tory bastards are trying to kill everybody – even the ‘working poor’ such as us.

    • paul – sorry to hear about the tax credit deductions affecting you and your family – at least you are not blaming the unemployed as some people are – you know who is to blame – Camoron, IBS, Gidiot and the rest.

    • Proper shithouses this government……………
      My friend Toddy has been married to a Thai nurse for 4 years. Each time he applies for a visa for her to come here they block it.
      They say he must earn £18600 per annum before she can even come over, yet our local wages are poverty handouts.
      They wrote and told him that he could consumate his marriage abroad rather than here. in other words, clear off if you don’t like it….

      He has not even been able to get a holiday visa for her to visit.
      When he got married in a village in Thailand, the whole tiny community attended, even the lord mayor.
      Their service was blessed by local monks, a huge civic affair.
      The marriage was registered in bth the Thai and British Embassy’s in Bangkok and all paperwork was submitted.

      Toddy has to fly across to see his wife. Recently they lost their first child due to a miscarriage that was probably brought on by stress.

      We can accomodate 20,000 strangers but Toddy can not have his wife beside him………….

      What a real cess pit of a nation we live in.

      ps I respect everyones right to a life, regardless of colour, creed or religion

      • paultheswineherd

        Geoff – this is totally wrong. How can this Government possibly do this?
        But, as usual – this Government does everything as supports itself.
        This Tory Government supports bringing in 20000 Refugees over 5 years = 4000 per year. But – they do not support it’s own ‘Citizens’ – Yeah!

      • But “Toddy” must have a £ or two tucked away if he can afford a Thai wife in the first place. Most of are lucky if we can afford a week in a caravan in Skegness never mind flying off to Thailand to get married – must have cost a fortune.

        • You won’t get much change out of £1000 for one bare-bones return flight to Thailand from the UK.

          “Toddy” must have spent £thousands on this adventure. It is not like his Thai wife will be paying for any off it. Wonder what the age gap is… 😉 And then “Toddy” can afford to support a child. A Thai “wife” don’t come cheap… 😉

          “Toddy” should be also be made aware that if you marry a non-UK national i,e, immigrant the Immigration Department will go through your finances with a fine-tooth comb.

          I recall a girl who married a Nigerian guy. She was studying as a nurse and being paid a grant but was also signing on. She was busted and prosecuted. Of course as soon a her “husband” got the paperwork he done a runner… 😉

  91. paultheswineherd

    Fellow JCP Sufferer/Customer –
    Thank you for this – I of course do not blame the unemployed, the sick and the disabled and claimants. I only blame the Tories : Cameron, Gidiot and IDS. I myself have had run-ins with the DSS/DWP in the past and of course, because I have a long memory – I have not forgiven ANY of them – far from it in fact – I, like so many people, not least, the people on here know exactly what has been happening.
    Just to let you know of my ‘story’ back in 1990, when I was living in my native Cornwall, I was put onto one of the Tories ‘Employment Training’ schemes. I did one year (before the ‘provider’ funding ran out!) (Does’nt that sound familiar!) on an Equestrian Scheme (that was fine and I loved it) – but, at the end of the day, I was working a full 36 hour ‘working’ week for my ‘benefit’ plus £10 a week (plus car travelling expenses). It was basically slave labour – not much different to the ‘Work Program’ nowadays.
    There was a ‘promise’ of a full time job at the end of it which did not materialise. Needless to say I absolutely HATE the Tories with a vengeance. These Companies, raking it all in – they did’nt care about their ‘trainees’ – they only cared about the MONEY.
    IDS thinks that he is safe at the moment – but he is most probably, NOT.
    That bastard had definitely watch his back.

    • paul – yes your equestrian scheme sounds good enough if you enjoyed it, but as you say, you need a proper wage and not just £10 per week plus car travelling expenses. And knowing my experience and others who were on this there was very slim chance of a full time job for any of us. Now it’s even worse. You’re right, they don’t care about us and never have, all they are interested in is getting free labour. I too was on the £10 a week extra “employment training” which lasted for about two years – the “sucessful outcome” (yes, really) of the training after I had survived the constant verbal abuse and harassment and ordering about and criticism and insults by a couple of the ELDERLY volunteers who had worked all their lives but grudged me the remote chance of a paid job was TWO WEEKS OF PROPER PAID WORK WHERE THE EMPLOYER PAID ME THE SAME AMOUNT P/W AS MY BENEFIT (PLUS £10 P/W OUT OF GENEROSITY)!
      You are right about IDS, my friend. He is far from safe. All the armed guards in the world working 24/7 will not help him. The storm approaches.

      • paultheswineherd

        Fellow JCP Sufferer/Customer: Exactly so – all of them do not care about their ‘trainees’ – only about getting their MONEY.
        That is very interesting – to me that suggests that these ‘ELDERLY’ volunteers were on some form of incentive ‘scheme’ themselves!

        • paul – You may be right about those two particular people getting something out of it even then when they were supposed to be volunteering – I think they also hoped that when the “charity” expanded and got new premises they would be the first in line for a paid job to supplement their pensions! However, one of them resigned from the committee having failed to pass a vote of no confidence in the rest of them 🙂 as he like things done HIS way, and is now dead 🙂 and gone to a worse place. The other one, well I’m pretty sure she didn’t get any paid employment there either, and she will either be dead now or in “God’s waiting room”. A couple of years back I was in the supermarket when I felt another shopper standing glaring at me. It was her! After all those years she was still giving me the evil eye!

  92. paultheswineherd

    IDS – You fucking bastard – we are on your tail!

  93. paultheswineherd

    Refugees – yes indeed – it is very bad
    OUR people in OUR Country – they are having to go to foodbanks to survive being sanctioned by our DWP

  94. paultheswineherd

    IDS – You fucking bastard – we are still definitely on your tail and
    you had better protect yourself – as you see fit!

  95. paultheswineherd

    IDS – 9mm round (?)

  96. paultheswineherd

    Cameron = fucking a pig’s head!

  97. paultheswineherd

    HaHa! – 9mm round!

  98. The Tories will only repent if they fear a revolution. They will keep hammering their victims until then, should it ever come?

  99. paultheswineherd

    Johannes – The Tories will – but we MUST oppose them at any cost.

  100. paultheswineherd

    Cornish: – oggy,oggy,oggy = aye, aye,aye = Cornish pasty
    = Welsh: ?

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  102. Tesco 'Apprentice' Shelf-Stacker

    Apprenticeships expansion ‘devaluing brand’: Low-quality, basic jobs being classed as ‘apprenticeships’

    The push to create apprenticeships fast has devalued their brand, with low level skills such as coffee-making being accredited, Ofsted has said.

    • ‘Tesco’

      You beat me to it. But is this a surprise? It does not address the elephant in the room which is Free Labour and equating apprenticeships/workfare etc etc as being equal and just as important, acceptable in the eyes of employers and wider society. It is in effect a subtle but effective undermining of the value of the worker, and their ability to earn money in a job. No matter their age

      • overburdenddonkey

        gaz and tes
        nah, it’s narrowing the jobs odds, jobs for the siblings of the rich…

        • overburdenddonkey

          ps gaz i agree with; ‘It is in effect a subtle but effective undermining of the value of the worker, and their ability to earn money in a job. No matter their age…’
          but add for everyone else it’s WE, after being let down in so many ways by successive govts…

      • Yeah it’s pathetic. But this apprenticeship scam has been going on for a while with all these rotten bottom of the ladder shite jobs being labelled as an apprenticeship.

        Bottom line of course is when a job is labelled an apprenticeship it immediately gives greedy employers the green light to ignore the already sad minimum wage and pay the worker literally sod all to shaft them to the hilt.

        <b?Roll up! Roll up! Apprentice Cleaner, Apprentice Shelf Stacker, Apprentice Toilet Attendant, all urgently required! Contact your local JCP for details! 😉

        • overburdenddonkey

          no you’ve missed the point that jcp will do longer be able to rec apps for some people…

        • you forgot apprentice filer, that’s what I was. I mean how hard is it to file away documents? it easy took me five minutes to learn what I had to do and a whole month to file everything that no one bothered to file in years. They say find work, there isn’t any really and even less work available if you have a disability, because no-one really wants you except to fill their equal opportunities quota. When you do get put on an Apprenticeship / workfare, honestly can’t see the different between them these days, they either give you the worse jobs that no-one wants to do, they make jobs up like they used to do in the workhouse, or you hang about doing nothing and would be doing more work at home. Its just a punishment really, to punish the poor for being alive when their is no work for them.

          • overburdenddonkey

            yes, but working class people now won’t get a LOOK IN….!

          • Yep very true Maria. That’s a good one as well and is deserving of the term “Modern Apprenticeship” 😉

            “Apprentice Data Entry Clerk” is another one that’s a friggin’ joke.

            An apprenticeship used to be a craft that took you years to learn, involved days away at a college to further your technical knowledge and then a lot of practicing at what you do.

            Do you get a day off each week to be an Apprentice Filer? 😀

            • overburdenddonkey

              yes, i did a 5yr one in the 60’s…now i’d be on endless WP/WE….the working classes will now be for all practical purposes excluded from doing apprenticeships…

            • No Raining, I didn’t I did 9 to 5 mon to Fri, they should have paid me the minimum wage. And because I was young and naïve I accepted it. Things have to change its not right being exploited and lied to so employers can use you legally, its slavery but of a more subtle kind, but you are still a slave.

              • This is the whole idea behind these Apprenticeships. The Tories made big speeches about how they were going to create so many of them. Well now we see how they do it; call a toilet attendant or an office filer or a coffee server or a warehouse worker or any other such jobs an Apprenticeship and they kill two birds with one stone; they get the plaudits from gullible members of the public who don’t know any better and get to go on shows like Question Time trumpeting about how they’re creating all these apprentice jobs. Plus they get pats on the back from greedy, immoral, bent employers, because now they can screw the arse of their new employees and don’t even have to pay them the minimum wage.

    • Another Fine Mess
      The comments are good – for a bbc article.

      All these Stink Tanks could save £millions of hard-working tax-payers money and losts of time if they just read thevoid instead. 🙂

      • Another

        Just reading through comments myself – it appears the Natives are restless and getting the kindling ready – upto and including Company Owners… Oh Dear. I wonder if the ConCons will be getting donations from those people…. Ooooopppps.

        Lets see :
        – Devalue workers – Check, Done it
        – Devalue Education – Check, Done it
        – Devalue individuals per see [unemployed, disabled, young] – Check, Done it
        – Devalue workers by calling them shirkers by taking away Tax Credits [Vast Majority Mostly Women] – Check, Done it
        – Devalue Doctors – Check, Done it

        Basically Devalue everyone who hasn’t £500,000 in bank and same in readies


        I wonder how this will end…. hhhhhmmmm… Hot Boiling Tubs and Pitchforks at night perhaps?

      • @Another
        Don’t forget the bill for Earl Grey and macaroons. That’s what fuels those useless academics who end up in so-called “think tanks” – no-one else will give them a job.

    • overburdenddonkey

      how many X’s does it need to be proven that the WCA sanctions and the EandSA, causes suffering and should be scrapped…?

    • paultheswineherd

      sian – thanks for putting this on. DWP may have really cocked up!
      Mike Sivier’s dogged persistence has and is, really paying off!

  103. Another Fine Mess

    After #Hire_A_Slave2015 week, today is anti-slavery day, where the Grubbyment and the Slavation Army are campaigning against modern slavery/workfare.
    Filed under: You couldn’t make it up.


    From: G Millward

    18 September 2015

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    I would refer you to the following article in which the coroner
    stated that the death of the claimant was as a direct result of a
    DWP decision that he was fit for work

    DWP finally promised in March this year – at the conclusion of the
    legal case – that it would work with Maximus, the controversial US
    outsourcing giant that took over the WCA contract from Atos this
    year, to develop a pilot programme to test new ways of collecting
    evidence for ESA claimants with mental health conditions.

    But so far – more than six months after that promise, and more than
    18 months after the coroner’s report was sent to DWP – there has
    been no sign of a pilot.

    Can you provide me with the following information;

    1) Will the DWP be undertaking a pilot programme to test new ways
    of collecting evidence for ESA claimants with mental health

    2) If the answer to 1) is yes, when will the pilot take place?

    3) If the answer to 1) is yes, how will the pilot be conducted?

    4) If the answer to 1) is no, why not.

    I look forward to receiving your response.

    Yours faithfully,

    G Millward

  105. Another Fine Mess

    VW DIY emissions test.

  106. rick nielson (cheap trick) @ 2:59

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  108. OT, but still:
    ““He’s a good man and I hear pigs are his speciality.” Lady Mary talking about the prime minister again.”

  109. creatorsnotconsumers
  110. Not fit for work? It depends on what the work is. How can the DWP or a GP know about everything you are expected to do in every job in the whole UK?

  111. Joanna Gosling's Knickers

    The BBC is not giving on this “Assisted Murder Bill”. Yet more ‘tragic’ cases being paraded on our TV screens: “Unfortunate that the Bill was overruled by Parliament.” “Unfortunate”, “overruled”… eh?!

    • UNITED Nations officials have arrived in Scotland to investigate allegations that Westminster welfare reforms have led to “grave or systematic violations” of disabled people’s human rights.

      The Sunday Herald revealed in August that the Special Rapporteur and members of UN’s Committee on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (UNCRPD) were due to visit the UK to probe the complaints and take evidence from individuals and campaign groups, including in Scotland.

      Officials arrived this weekend and will spend around two weeks visiting all four of the UK’s nations. All investigations are being conducted in private with participants being asked to sign confidentiality agreements.

      The UN investigators will specifically examine whether the British government has committed “systematic and grave violations” of the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities. The UK is the first country in the world to be investigated in this manner.

      Meanwhile the Scottish disability campaign group Black Triangle has also revealed it plans to take another complaint to the UN Special Rapporteur under protocols which allow individuals to lodge cases where there is believed to be a “life-threatening situation” or urgent action is required.

      Black Triangle said their complaint will focus on the case of Michael O’Sullivan, a disabled father-of-two with severe mental health issues, who killed himself after he lost access to his disability benefits.

      Last month, in what is believed to be the first case of its kind, a coroner directly attributed his suicide to being found “fit for work” following an assessment under the controversial work capability process.

      John McArdle, co-founder of Black Triangle, said he could not make any comment on the current UN investigation. However, he said the group were planning to submit a separate complaint to the Special Rapporteur which would focus on O’Sullivan’s case.

      Black Triangle has also compiled a dossier of more than 80 deaths linked to welfare reform, including a 44-year-old man with mental health conditions whose benefits were cut after he was deemed fit for work.

      • Black Triangle has also compiled a dossier of more than 80 deaths linked to welfare reform, including a 44-year-old man with mental health conditions whose benefits were cut after he was deemed fit for work.

        He was left with £40 a week to live on and was badly malnourished when he died, weighing just 5st 8lbs.



    Last night a spokesman for the Department of Work and Pensions said: “We are committed to supporting the most vulnerable people in society and spend more than £50 billion every year on disabled people and their services. We are happy to inform the inquiry of this.

    • “DWP DEATHS”

      The figures from the Eugenics backlash.

      Dear Trudy Baddams,

      Thank you for your Freedom of Information requests received on 28 August 2015, 31 August
      2015 and 18 September 2015.
      You asked:

      “Can you please tell me (not in table form) just statistics how many jsa claimants have
      died after being moved from ESA during the years of 2013 – 2015 or any part thereof”

      “What areas of the country have seen the most benefit related deaths? Using the latest
      figures just released from DWP”

      “How many WCA’s for ESA have been carried out this year?”

      “How many ESA claimants were sanctioned while on the work programmes How many
      JSA claimants were sanctioned while on the work programmes”

      “How many ESA WRAG claims ended due to a death”

      “How many JSA claimants have a sick note”

    • Their £50bn is horseshit, They use a meaningless, arbitrary figure plucked out of the air to distract from the fact that £50bn no doubt includes the cost of thousands of sham tribunals and court cases of disabled people trying to get their rights restored. As usual, its one big, grotesque distortion of fact. Obviously £50bn isnt enough to do the job, even if we pretended the figure represented the real spend on disabled benefits and services. The disabled are being gouged by a bunch of penny pinching, human rights abusing SOBs

  113. Its a human right to spread disability hatred.


    ‘Proud anti-Semite’: Joshua Bonehill-Paine had charges against him dismissed

    ‘Proud anti-Semite’: Joshua Bonehill-Paine had charges against him dismissed

    An internet troll who called for disabled people to be exterminated has been cleared of being grossly offensive because a judge decided it was his human right.

    Joshua Bonehill-Paine, 22, was in charged over two articles posted on far-right websites, including one promoting eugenics – the practice of killing people whose DNA is seen as inferior.

    A court heard that he said babies with conditions like Downs Syndrome should be killed at birth for the good of the nation.

    Bonehill-Paine, who calls himself a ‘proud anti-Semite’ said that the UK should adopt the practices of Sparta in ancient Greece, where physically imperfect babies were abandoned on a hillside.

    He accompanied the story, on a site describing itself as ‘Britain’s number one nationalist newspaper’ with a picture of a Tesco worker with Downs Syndrome.

    He was also charged over another article in which he claimed food sold by Tesco contained the deadly Ebola virus.

    The articles – posted on two separate websites – resulted in charges of misusing a public computer network to propagate grossly offensive, indecent, obscene or menacing material.

    But in a hearing at Stevenage Magistrates’ Court this week, district judge Carolyn Mellanby dismissed both charges, saying that his right to free speech protects him from being punished over the stories.

    Tesco said that they were alerted to Bonehill-Paine’s article, and were contacted by almost 200 customers concerned that the story was true.

    • @Toddy

      The magistrate must be a Nazi surely?

      Despite accepting that Bonehill-Paine was behind the stories, district judge Mellanby said he was protected by the Human Rights Act, which guarantees free speech.

      She said: ‘Freedom of speech has a very high threshold and I would have breached Article 10 of the Humans Rights Act if I had found you guilty.

      ‘You have a right to express your opinions. You came close, but not close enough. I therefore dismiss the case.’

      Bonehill-Paine, of Yeovil, Somerset, was returned to custody after the hearing ahead of a trial he faces at Southwark Crown Court in December.

      He is accused of inciting racial hatred before a neo-Nazi rally in London in July.

  114. No to Nazi Boneheads

    No to Nazism

    Stuff Nazi Eugenics and Nazi Euthanasia

    sarah7 | October 19, 2015 at 11:04 am | Reply


    The magistrate must be a Nazi surely?

    Despite accepting that Bonehill-Paine was behind the stories, district judge Mellanby said he was protected by the Human Rights Act, which guarantees free speech.

    She said: ‘Freedom of speech has a very high threshold and I would have breached Article 10 of the Humans Rights Act if I had found you guilty.

    ‘You have a right to express your opinions. You came close, but not close enough. I therefore dismiss the case.’

    Bonehill-Paine, of Yeovil, Somerset, was returned to custody after the hearing ahead of a trial he faces at Southwark Crown Court in December.

    He is accused of inciting racial hatred before a neo-Nazi rally in London in July.


      A former public schoolboy and briefly a Conservative Party member,[7] Bonehill was sentenced to a 12-month community order involving 100 hours’ unpaid work and supervision by the probation service, following an incident on 11 March 2011 in which he broke into and burgled a police station in Chard, Somerset using his Conservative Party membership card, while drunk.[8]

      Bonehill-Paine lashed out when efforts were made to arrest him, assaulting two officers in the process. He was found guilty of the offences of burglary, assault and criminal damage, pleading guilty to criminal damage to a flower bed in Preston Road, Yeovil, on 30 March.[7][8]

      In 2013, Bonehill announced plans to lead a “Stand Strong” march in Woolwich, a month after the murder of Lee Rigby, describing it as a protest against “extremism, terrorism and oppression”.[9]

  115. Recently I have heard a Bonehead try to make out Adolf Hitler was
    somehow good and that Supposedly the Holocaust never Happened
    which is a Load of Rubbish to put it Mildly

    Adolf Hitler is a Genocidial Racist Tyrant and the Holocaust is an Evil
    Gigantic Orgy of Mass Murder

    Another Idiot who put a Swear Word next to Black which is Nasty and

    Immigrant Bashing is a Ruling Class Tactic to Divide and Rule and the
    Boneheads who get taken in by it are being Stooges for Ruling Class

  116. I Notice that Petition for the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as
    Secretary of State For Work and Pensions Now has over 112.470

    No More Deaths of Poor and Vulnerable People

    Better to Scrap Neo Liberalism than Public Service

  117. overburdenddonkey

    there really needs to be many more grassroots support groups like this one..
    ‘The Work Capability Assessment….designed to cut your benefits through trickery, but read on to learn how, with advice and support, you can get what you are entitled to.’
    it’s also important to note that after 6mths or before if conditions worsens, one can reclaim eandsa..the big fly in the ointment is MR, where’s the campaign to end that…?
    i know the system is shit, as it is designed to put one in a bind, and needs to be scrapped…raising awareness of human rights violations as well as letting people know there’s things one can also do, is vital…
    a campaign for a UBI imo is also vital for our long term financial security…it will also take away govts power to impose conditionality on our incomes…
    what happened to the un ms rolnik report…?

    • Everybody is capable of doing something good for society, and all responsible people are willing to contribute to the best of their ability. What we need is a caring government which will give us a chance to use our capabilities instead of just telling us we are useless scroungers.

  118. Reblogged this on Industrial Workers of the World Dorset and commented:
    Our class have always known that work makes you ill and shortens your life. The bosses know it too – which is why they leave it to us.

    • overburdenddonkey

      yep, after ww2 in the 50’s and 60’s millions pooled together for the common good to rebuild the uk, promise after promise was broken, prosperity for all is/was just around the corner work harder for the common good, like mugs we believed them, hard luck work force, good effort, and all that but we’re a bit short, you’ll have to try harder….
      what did govts actually do but to sell all our jobs off to the highest bidder and dumped the precarious classes in the shite…their ship had certainly come in…

  119. With Individual Electoral Registration there is a Strong Danger that
    Millions could Fall off the Electoral Register which would make it Easier
    for the Tories to Win Elections which is of Course Against the National

    Voting is Important to Getting the Tories Out After all it is how they
    Get In

    • How ironic that the Chinese premier is visiting and our politicians are wanting to engage on their woeful abuses of human rights at the same time we are being investigated for exactly the same thing…………………

      Maybe the DWP can learn quite a lot about torturing people, but starving poor mortals to death cannot be any worse than Chinese water torture.

      They might have got XI JIN PING but we have buried 2380 dead LIM PING.

      What a marvellous thing Communism really is, those at the top table live a life of luxury while those they purport to represent live in abject squalor………………..
      Seems there must be a similarity to communism and capitalism in many respects..

      Had some chips last night, cooked them in central heating oil that someone had gave me. Tasted funny but they were filling, nevertheless…………….

  120. knickers

  121. wank

    • It’s sad that Johnny Void blocks people with a valid and sensible opinion which doesn’t happen agree with his personal editorial policy, but never blocks this kind of mindless obscenity.

      • People only get blocked for abuse or repeatedly trying to wind people up. In over ten years, and tens of thousands of comments I just looked and there have been a total of 27 ip addresses blocked in that time and 22 email/user names – and many of those obviously belonged to the same person.

        • Back To You Johnny!

          “People only get blocked for abuse or repeatedly trying to wind people up.”

          Is that your stated posting policy??? You seriously need to think about your own hypocrisy. You’ve been abusing and repeatedly trying to wind up the government for many years, and long may you continue to do so!

  122. Another Fine Mess

    Another 1,800 steel jobs going, going gone! on top of the other 2,000, and 1,200.
    Gidiots economic miracle just keeps on giving.

    • Obviously the steelworks is beyond the view of the London fortress parapet which secures the wealthy whilst pissing on those beyond it.


        Whitehall cleaners threatened with disciplinary action after asking top Tory for living wage

        14 cleaners wrote to Philip Hammond to plead for the living wage

        Whitehall cleaners who asked a top Tory for talks over a pay boost face being hit with disciplinary action, campaigners reveal today.

        Workers warned Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond their £7.05 an hour rate – £2.10 less than the London Living Wage – was not enough to survive on.

        But once bosses at Interserve – an outside firm which has the Foreign Office (FCO) cleaning deal – discovered their plea to the Conservative Minister, they accused staff of “bringing the contract into disrepute”.

        Fourteen workers were warned they face disciplinary action.

      • overburdenddonkey

        BR once had 800000 staff…british steel had similar nos…
        ‘It is between 1951 and 2011 that the biggest changes to the service and manufacturing industries was seen. The percentage of workers in the service industries increased at every census in the 60 year period.
        In 2001, three out of four workers (76%) worked in services.
        In 2011 this has risen again and four out of five (81%) working people were in the service sector.
        This is opposite to the trend that can be seen in the manufacturing industry.
        In 2001, 15% of workers were in manufacturing, less than half of what it had been in 1951.
        In 2011 this has fallen once more to one in 11 working people (9%) in the industry.
        Over the 60 years, agriculture and fishing declined further to 1% of working people. The energy and water sector also gradually declined to 1% of the working population in 2011. The construction industry remained relatively steady and was 8% of the working population in 2011.’

  123. It is Dystopian like Panem with the Capitol a Lair of Wealth and Luxury
    whilst the Masses in the Districts are Oppressed and Poor

    Tory Britain An Apartheid State of Wealth and Class

  124. On a Local Level Opposing any Attacks upon Council Tax Reduction and Supporting an Increase in Council Tax Reduction as a Start towards Restoring Full Council Tax Benefit is Necessary as Well as Supporting Proper Funding from National Government to Local Government.

    On a National Level Supporting the Welfare State with Increased Welfare Benefits Renationalization of the Railways with Price Controls upon Maximum Cost .

    On a International Level Supporting a British Foreign Policy of World Peace Now and Forever Opposing UK Airstrikes against Syria and the UK being Drawn by Western Warmongering into Conflict with Either Syria or Russia

    Better Britain Not Bonehead Tory Britain

  125. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System


  126. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The Bill Of Rights is getting fast tracked. No green or white paper & will be in force by spring 2016. That is the only way dodgy dave thinks he can get out of all the Human Rights Breeches he has dictated.

  127. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System


    Who`s responsibility is it the DWP`s or the HCP.

    Since Universal Credit roll out is not going to be finished until 2020 When all other benefits close down.

  128. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System


    l I declare that I have read and understand thenotes at the front of this form, the informationIhave given on this form is correct and complete.l I understand that I must report all changes in mycircumstances which may affect my entitlementpromptly and by failing to do so I may be liable toprosecution or face a financial penalty. I will phone0345 608 8545, or write to the office that pays mybenefit, to report any change in my circumstances.

    If I give false or incomplete information or fail toreport changes in my circumstances promptly,Iunderstand that my Employment and SupportAllowance may be stopped or reduced and anyoverpayment may be recovered. In addition, Imaybe prosecuted or face a financial penalty.

    lI agree that –the Department for Work and Pensions–any Healthcare Professional advising theDepartment–any organisation with which the Department hasa contract for the provision of assessmentservices
    may may ask any of the people or organisations I havementioned on this form for any information whichis needed to deal with–this claim for benefit–any request for this claim to be looked at again and that the information may be given to thatHealthcare Professional or organisation or to theDepartment or any other government body aspermitted by law.

    lI also understandthat the Department may usethe information which it has now or may get in thefuture to decide whether I am entitled to–the benefit I am claiming–any other benefit I have claimed–any other benefit I may claim in the future.lI agreeto my doctor or any doctor treating me,being informed about the Secretary of State’sdetermination on–limited capability for work–limited capability for work-related activity, or–both.

    • Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

      That was the internet for which has different Terms & Conditions than the in your hand ESA50 = Null & Void.

  129. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    The Home Office cleaners are getting sacked because they said something. County is down fall heading for a General Strike.

  130. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System


  131. Stepping Razor Sound Plate System

    Your worst NME Cameron is the Tory Voters.

  132. A Disgusting Outrage Indeed

    GEOFF REYNOLDS | October 19, 2015 at 3:14 pm | Reply


    Whitehall cleaners threatened with disciplinary action after asking top Tory for living wage

    14 cleaners wrote to Philip Hammond to plead for the living wage

    Whitehall cleaners who asked a top Tory for talks over a pay boost face being hit with disciplinary action, campaigners reveal today.

    Workers warned Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond their £7.05 an hour rate – £2.10 less than the London Living Wage – was not enough to survive on.

    But once bosses at Interserve – an outside firm which has the Foreign Office (FCO) cleaning deal – discovered their plea to the Conservative Minister, they accused staff of “bringing the contract into disrepute”.

    Fourteen workers were warned they face disciplinary action.

  133. Oppose Universal Credit Oppose Forced Labour

    Support Real Human Rights such as to Live with Human Dignity

  134. What is Tragic is the Suffering of the Poor and Vulnerable like David

    No to Assisted Suicide Pahlava

    Yes to Assisted Living

    Joanna Gosling’s Knickers | October 19, 2015 at 10:01 am | Reply

    The BBC is not giving on this “Assisted Murder Bill”. Yet more ‘tragic’ cases being paraded on our TV screens: “Unfortunate that the Bill was overruled by Parliament.” “Unfortunate”, “overruled”… eh?!

  135. As For the Oblivion Box Answer is Do Not Watch it

  136. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
    Another excellent piece showing how desperately the DWP and IDS are to enforce their despicable ideology upon the population, to the point where they are foisting it on the medical profession. And Mr Void is right in that it undermines their credibility. The DWP’s model of illness is pure political ideology. Mr Void, and numerous disability activists have repeatedly published reports online by respected doctors and medical professionals refuting it, time and again. Yet they continue to try and pass it off as respectable science.


    The Psychosocial Dimension

    Almost anytime you tell anyone anything, we are
    attempting to change the way their brain works

    How people think and feel about their health
    problems determine how they deal with them and
    their impact

    Extensive clinical evidence that beliefs aggravate
    and perpetuate illness and disability¹ ²

    The more subjective, the more central the role of
    beliefs ³

    Beliefs influence: perceptions & expectations;
    emotions & coping strategies; motivation;
    • ¹ Main & Spanswick, 2000. ² Gatchell & Turk, 2002.³


    • Cardiff Research:
      Negative Influences:

      Job dissatisfaction
      Limited attendance incentives (esp.
      work colleagues)
      Attribution of illness to work

      Minimal health literacy
      Self-monitoring (symptoms)
      False beliefs

      Availability of alternative sources of
      income / support

      Cardiff Research: Findings:
      Principal negative influences on return to work:

      Personal / psychological:
      Catastrophising (even minor degrees)
      Low Self-Efficacy
      Belief that “stress” is causal factor

      Lone parents / unstable relationships
      “Victim” of modern society
      Rented or social housing

      General Affect:
      Sad or low most of the time
      Pervasive thoughts about personal illness

      absolute fucking claptrap………………

      • According to information generated by the private health insurance companies that gave advice to our health select committees, Disability and illness is all in our minds…………………

        The government are using this theory to deny benefits to the ill and infirm, yet any medical authority worth it’s salt would address this theory as absolute crap.

        Barriers to recovery and return to
        work are primarily personal,
        psychological and social rather than
        health-related “medical” problems.

        Written by fools, for fools who are desperately trying to hide the fallout………………………


  138. @GEOFF

    So this guy Waddell put forward these theories that were produced on behalf of a private health insurers like UNUM, AXA and BUPA and it was presented to parliament by twats like Mansel Aylward, Bill Gunnyeon, bothe chief medical officers of the Dwp, and they accepted this shite?

    • That is absolutely spot on……………….

      Senior members like Lord David Fraud, Dame Carol Back, sold this horseshit to parliament to discredit the disabled.

      If you research deeply you will see that Aylward, Gunnyeon and Black, were always giving speeches at seminars hosted by the private health insurers, coming out with shit like this;

      Is Work Good for your Health and
      Wellbeing? (Waddell & Burton, 2006)

      Strong evidence: Work is generally good for
      physical and mental health and wellbeing

      Reverses the adverse health effects of

      Beneficial effects depend on the nature and quality
      of work and its social context

      Jobs should be safe and accommodating

      Moving off benefits without entry in to work
      associated with deterioration in health and


      Here are a few examples;

      Health and Wellbeing at Work Conference
      5-6 march 2013
      Venue; NEC Birmingham

      Speakers include;

      Dame Carol Black

      Bill Gunnyeon CBE

      Professor Sir Mansel Aylward



      Dame Carol Black

      Chief medical adviser warns that funding requests will be challenged

      A tax break for companies that fund interventions to get absent employees back to work will be considered by the Government, but much work needs to be done to analyse its implications.

      This was the message from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) to insurers, healthcare professionals and employer representatives at the Association of British Insurers this morning.

      “Any conference I have been to, it [removing tax disincentives to fund healthcare] is one of the things that employers have consistently raised and I understand that,” said Dr Bill Gunnyeon, chief medical adviser at the DWP. “But I’m not making any promises.”


      Simon Burns (Minister of State (Health), Health; Chelmsford, Conservative)

      We are not aware of any meetings between officials and UNUM. However, Dame Carol Black, expert adviser on health and work to the Department, met them on three occasions in January 2012 to discuss the positive relationship between work and health.


      Commenting, Professor Michael O’Donnell, Chief Medical Officer at Unum said:

      “Dame Carol Black’s ‘fit note’ will be a major step forward in addressing attitudes towards sickness and the sooner we can introduce it, the better. Changing the mindset and therefore attitudes is the critical first step in bringing about a real and effective change in approach by all parties.




    • overburdenddonkey

      the magna carta was supposed to overcome these cons, it failed coz it kept others in judgement of the dispensing our vitals of life…

  139. The UN human rights inspectors should be trying these individuals for murder.

    • The complicity of leading Dwp health officials and the Private Health Insurance Industry is so apparent, it’s unbelievable, our government are being led by those who seek to profit mostly.

      The bank accounts of these conspirators / crooks, should be delved into.

      How many more ministerial figures have been lobbying to fill their boots?

    • overburdenddonkey

      so what happened to ms r rolnik’s un report…?

  140. Political and Religious Freedom of Speech Undermines Real
    Human Rights so it is Vital that the Many Oppose So Called
    ” Extremist Disruption Orders ”

    The House of Commons is meant to Represent Ordinary People
    hence the Term Commons Not be a Rubberstamp for whatever Tinpot
    Regime in Office without a Proper Democratic Mandate wants to
    Bulldoze Through

    No to a Totalitarian Britain

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  143. Atos and their collaborators are there to bypass the NHS. If a GP has put a patient on sickness benefit and Atos puts them off it both parties cannot be right. The decisions about a claimant going for a so called medical are taken before the appointment. People are fit for work irrespective of how ill they are. They are out to cull those they deem as undesirables by legal methods. And sooner or later the DWP will become the DW, there will be no pensions. The Tories don’t care whether people have work or not, they just want them to stop claiming benefits.

  144. The 23rd of October Mark’s the Anniversary of Lenin Calling for the October Revolution in 1917 AD .

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    The Result was the Overthrow of the Provisional Government and the Start of Soviet Russia under the Red Flag of Revolution .

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  146. I Notice that Petition For the Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as
    Secretary of State For Work and Pensions Now has over 112,660

    David Cameron should Resign as Well For effectively Kowtowing to
    the Regime of the People’s Republic of China which Oppresses
    Chinese People Politically and in Terms of Religious Freedom as Well

  147. Well that’s what you get for voting conservative! They have been making cut backs and causing prople to lose their jobs for years then demonising them if they go on benefit as a scrounger, using programmes like benefit street and papers such as the Sun and the Daily Mail, with Rupert Murdoch churning out the propaganda on their behalf. Now they are starting to demonise those on tax credits or any one who takes time off sick. Make no mistake about it the conservatives are only for the filthy rich. By brainwashing people into turning against poor people who may have lost their jobs, blaming them for the recession, they have duped people into voting for them. Turkeys voting for Christmas. We need to get these ba****ds out! Any body who is working now is a target for their cut backs, they’ve already targetted unemployed people, most of which are nothing like benefit street! It’s anyone who’s working next ( if your not a millionaire that is). They lost the tax credits vote but they are going to take it off people anyway by switching it to universal credit so it’s still going to go. Next time vote Labour ffs!!!!!

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