Incapacity Benefit for new claimants will go, replaced by Employment and Support Allowance with the emphasis on what a person with a physical or mental health condition can do, rather than what they can’t.
Peter Hain, Labour Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, 2007
We need a system focussed on what a claimant can do and the support they’ll need – and not just on what they can’t do.
Iain Duncan Smith, Conservative Secretary of State for Work and Pensions, 2015
It’s just the same old shit, over and over again, whichever bunch of bastards is in charge. The above two comments were made almost a decade apart and in that period the number of people claiming out of work sickness benefits has barely changed. And why would it? In any society there will be some people who cannot work due to illness or disability and as the pension age gets ever higher then that number as a percentage of the workforce will grow.
There is nothing unusual or unexpected about this. Whoever you are reading this, one day you will get sick and then you will die. If you are lucky this will not happen until you have reached retirement. If not then you will be helped on your way to an early grave by politicians desperate to cover up for their failure to provide enough jobs by blaming unemployed, sick and disabled people for unemployment.
Iain Duncan Smith’s speech yesterday was a masterclass in this deception, but everything he said has been said before. So out of ideas is the Secretary of State that he is now misrepresenting the entire process for claiming sickness benefits – pretending it is a binary system which “decides that you are either capable of work or you are not”. This is simply an outright lie and he knows it. Currently claimants are assessed as being fit for work, unable to work, or placed in the Work Related Activity Group which means capable of some work, or of being able to work in the future. In the recent budget George Osborne declared that this group is to be scrapped, creating precisely the binary system that Iain Duncan Smith says he opposes. Perhaps he hopes we won’t notice. Perhaps even he hasn’t noticed.
The UK does not spend significantly more on out of work sickness and disability benefits than other comparable economies. According to the OECD we spend a fraction more than Poland as a percentage of GDP on ‘incapacity’ – and less than Australia, New Zealand, Spain, Israel, Belgium. Luxembourg, Iceland, Finland, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Switzerland and the Netherlands. It is true as Iain Duncan Smith said yesterday that the UK spends more than France, Germany and Japan. In humane society this would be a source of pride. Or at least it would be until you found out that Germany spends over three times as much on unemployment benefits whilst France and Japan – where the retirement age is lower – both spend almost double what the UK spends on pensions. And the incapacity spending figures by the way come from 2011, before most of Iain Duncan Smith’s benefit cuts had been implemented.
Only an astonishing degree of self-delusion could explain Iain Duncan Smith’s latest belief that more workfare, more assessments, and more benefit cuts will magically cure those unable to work because of illness. But then he is deluded. That’s why he could claim yesterday that “The Work Programme is … the most successful back to work programme we’ve ever seen.” That’s the Work Programme that has seen less sick and disabled people enter employment than it was estimated would have done if the scheme hadn’t existed. Hundreds of millions of pounds spent on making things worse. This is what Iain Duncan Smith calls a success.
Rarely, if ever, has such a fucking idiot been given so much power over so many people’s futures. If the human cost were not so great then the best response would be to point and laugh. But we can’t do that, not as millions of lives are destroyed. If society means anything at all it means looking after each other and that means driving Iain Duncan Smith back into the sewer he crawled from before he can do anymore damage. No-one should stand idly by now. We need to be relentless as he is, to wake up every day with one thought on our minds – to destroy Iain Duncan Smith’s welfare reforms before they destroy us.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/commentisfree/picture/2015/aug/24/steve-bell-on-iain-duncan-smiths-welfare-policies-cartoon
…………….all of which was put to the select committee in December 2002 by the UNUM PRIVATE HEALTH ISURANCE COMPANY, the same compant that was fined millions of dollars in the states for disability denial…………..
Read the full submission by UNUM, it is word for word what the government are doing.
This is not a coincidence, just corruption to give large swathes of the UK welfare provision to the private health insurance industry.
5. It is UnumProvident’s contention, and its commercial experience, that acquiring a disability does not make one incapable of work. In our experience, most disabled people are capable of some work, would like to work and crucially, have an expectation that they will return to work in some capacity. Indeed many disabled people would be capable of some work, albeit perhaps not enough to support themselves. We attach a series of case studies[2] which show how we have been able to work with our claimants to achieve a successful return to work.
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201213/cmhansrd/cm130117/debtext/130117-0002.htm
“WHY NOT SUE THE DWP DECISION MAKER”
Letters: DWP Decision Makers ‘Personally Responsible’ If They Fabricate Evidence
In response to: Are DWP Decision Makers Submitting Fabricated Evidence To Appeal Tribunals?
Quote: Indeed according to G S Prince, Assistant Manager for JobCentre Plus at the Chippenham BDC (from a letter dated 3 December 2010):
“An individual decision maker … does not owe the appellant a legal duty of care and is not legally liable for any errors or omissions he may make.”
As a retired Welfare Rights Lawyer, and former Tribunal Member (Social Chamber) I totally disagree.
Decision Makers make decisions on behalf of the Secretary of State for Work & Pensions, Iain Duncan Smith, so the Secretary of State is legally liable.
However, if a Decision Maker knowingly fabricates evidence to present to a Tribunal, they would be personally responsible for that.
A Tribunal is a Court of Law and has the power to take evidence from both the claimant and Decision Makers. Uttering such false evidence would be tantamount to committing perjury.
…………………………..UNLESS THAT IS, YOU HOLD A HIGH AND MIGHTY POSITION OF SOMEONE LIKE JUDGE MARK ROWLAND………………..
SOMEONE WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE INDEPENDENT, SOMEONE WHO PURPORTS TO BE MEETING THE CRITERIA OF ARTICLE 6 OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS ACT, THE RIGHT OF A FAIR TRIAL.
ASK YOURSELVES, “WHAT THE FUCK IS AN EX DWP COMMISSIONER DOING IN A JOB THAT GIVES HIM THE RIGHT TO REFUSE CLAIMANT APPEALS?”
THIS MAN IS BREAKING THE LAW, YOUR HUMAN RIGHTS, YOUR DISABILITY RIGHTS AND YOUR EQUALITY RIGHTS.
The dwp are fielding an insider in a position that should be totally unbiased and fair.
The Unelected Banker Sitting in our Parliament to Make Life Easier for Banks
The Remembrancer is the only non-MP or civil servant with a seat in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords. He sits to the right of the Speaker in every session of parliament. His sole purpose is to scrutinise and influence legislation in the interests of the banks. Nobody elected this representative into our parliament. What kind of democracy allows an unelected lobbyist for a wealthy elite to sit in its parliament to write laws in their own interests?
Who is the Remembrancer?
The current Remembrancer is Paul Double, a former barrister, and he has been in the role since 2003. In that time, he has not provided a single interview to the media. He has a budget of £5.3m, and a £500,000 staff which included six lawyers.
http://www.scriptonitedaily.com/2013/06/27/the-unelected-banker-sitting-in-our-parliament-to-make-life-easier-for-banks/
SEEMS ONLY FAIR…………
There are 25 electoral wards inside the boundaries of the City. In four, the 9,000 people living there are permitted to vote. In the remaining 21, the other 32,000 votes are controlled by corporations, mostly banks and other financial companies. The bigger the business, the bigger the vote: a company with 10 workers gets two votes, the biggest employers get 79. It’s not the workers who decide how the votes are cast, but the bosses, who “appoint” the voters.
And we are off again…anyone fortunate enough to find such utopian positions would rapidly come unstuck when due to their disability they can’t commit to a definate timetable or have to go home suddenly being classed as unreliable then follows the persecution of sanctioning, fines, none of which will help the disabled person under a punitive system nor will it encourage employers when no matter how magnaminous they need to be able to predict staff availability. I’m sure plenty of poverty stricken disabled would love to work it used to be called permitted work until stopped by dwp. The incessant paperwork job centre visits and hospital attendances will only create worsening conditions.
Idiotic Drunken Shite – “The Work Programme is … the most successful back to work programme we’ve ever seen.”
If the work programme has done so well, then maybe the bug-eyed lunatic can answer many questions of mine over the monumental bulls-up ever created in history.
1) How many people has successfully got back into the work and jobs of their choice through the Work Programme assisting them?
2) How many people have been placed into paid jobs purely by the work programme and not of their own means?
3) How many people have gone down the self-employment route after being recommended to by their work programme provider?
4) How many people have been forced to sign back on after their self-employment venture (encouraged by their WPP) failed catastrophically?
5) How many millions of people have been caught out by their sanction happy work programme provider for simply not knowing that the rules covering the placement client have changed overnight without being told?
6) If the work programme was that good of a success and the only way to secure work, why is there un-employment across all working age groups?
7) How many people have died whilst at their work programme placement through lack of proper training, health & safety procedures and non-existant safety checks of the placement building’s safety record by their WPP job coach?
8) How many people have died as a result of being placed into benefit sanction as recommended by their work programme provider?
9) How many millions of taxpayers money have been squandered on the likes of those work placement providers failing to plca eun-employed people into proer jobs and instead have parked them between 4 weeks and 6 months in some dodgy ‘charity organisation’ just so the work gets done for said company for nothing?
10) How may millions of taxpayers money have been handed to the placement providers (local recycling businesses) from the DWP via the route of the contracted work programme provider?
Frontline staff at the Department for Work and Pensions have been given guidance on how to deal with suicidal benefit claimants, it has been reported.
The Sunday Herald newspaper says workers have been handed a six-point plan on how to deal with people denied benefits who appear to be suicidal.
Staff at call centres have been instructed to allow rejected claimants for Universal Credit to talk about their intention to kill themselves.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-staff-given-suicide-guidance-ahead-of-iain-duncan-smiths-welfare-reforms-10470754.html
The next thing we will know and find out is that all jobcentres will in the near future have gas chambers and gallows in a separate part of the building where depressed jobseekers refused benefits will get to have a choice on how to kill themselves, thus reducing the benefit bill by just a few pence savings.
Glad I left the UK when I did, I had enough of their crap as well. There is not much time left before the financial sector explodes, and I do not want to be on that island when it does.
What you say might one day happen, who knows, they are crazy enough.
Atos: Suicide/Self-Harm and the 6 Point Plan.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/atos_suicideself_harm_and_the_6
Disgusting state of affairs,,ive even seen staff members in the B**Y Jobcentre my way walking about on B***Y Crutches trying to make it look as if their trying to come into work???. Whats all that about ha ha ??. Its not going to make any difference luv!!!!. F**G TWATS!!!. Treat us like C***TS and you will get treat like one yourself!!!!.
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“This is something that happened in Britain in 2015:”
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-small-gesture-of-solidarity#/story
It’s ironic that when there are more people needing work than jobs, there is a relentless push to find everyone fit for work – mothers with young children, disabled, older people once considered of pension age. The reason this is being pursued so enthusiastically is because it is running parallel with a draconian sanctions regime which removes even the subsistence level benefit from so many. There seems to be a blithe unconcern for the reasons for trying to place a limit on the effects of dire poverty, including public health, the competences and educational achievement of the eventual workforce, reduction of crime and so on. Are they counting on being out of power when the cost of over enthusiastic ‘economy’ hits home?
It’s ironic that when there are more people needing work than jobs, there is a relentless push to find everyone fit for work
…And plenty of working people wanting more hours/shifts.
It’s worse than ironic, it’s an utter waste of £billions of hard-working taxpayers money being given to the parasite companies.
On my way to the Sanction Center I pass all the empty shops, offices, dereliction and big issue sellers (there’s even one outside Lidl!). When I get there my umpteenth advisor immediately diagnoses the problem, – wrong keywords on my CV. Then I have to go through the weekly pantomine where I agree to make changes, and just that last one more tweak will do it.
Oh well, roll on yet another employability course, the ESF must think I’ve got the brains of a scarecrow.
The jokecentreminus will constantly tell us to keep tweaking our CVs as by doing so this will greatly increase our chances of finding work. We can all keep fiddling with our CVs until the fucking cows come home but this constant CV updating will NOT wave jobs out of thin air.
I have simply lost count of the number of times I have been told by mugs in my JCP, and every single bollocked-up training provider I have wasted my life in, to update my CV.
For instance, before I went to a learn direct course, that I wanted to do myself, my JCP made me change and update my CV. However, when I was on the Learn Direct course, the tutor went and told me that my current CV from the jobcentre was no good and had to be altered, so over a period of five days I went and altered my CV to the recommendations by learn direct.
A year or so later in 2012 and still with my learn direct CV I was told, during my first week (of 102 weeks) with my Flexible New Deal provider in my town, that my learn direct CV was blocking my chances with potential employers. So surprise, surprise I had to change my CV yet again to what my New Deal provider expected from it.
Following on to July 2014 and going into the cunt seetec, I was told during my first week by my seetec coach that my CV was not up to scratch even though I had explained to them it was updated by my previous new deal advisor and also just before I went on their 6 month programme by my JCP.
Every time I went to a different course or programme, my CV was expected to be completely changed and updated and everything fucking else. Today, I have a totally buggered CV from years of interference and meddling from various work programmes such as new deal, flexible new deal, the work programme and others.
And yet, I still haven’t even found the heart to properly fix it the way that I want it typed up as I have had some much shit from people in these courses and all of whom claimed to be an expert in CV writing and claimed my previous alteration of it was no good to me.
Every work provider from new deal right through to the work programme, and even the JCP are obsessed with constant CV typing and re-typing as if it will ever get results and that an employer will kiss your arse because it is top notch and will get you in the company.
Fen: That CV altering is a load of shite. There was nothing wrong with your CV. The simple fact is every different place you went to, the wanker dealing with you had to justify his and his employers role in this total effing farce by coming up with more oppressive BS for you to do.
They alter your CV so that it’s worse than it was at the start..
They also include spelling/grammatical errors that if you don’t read it through you won’t even notice. You will just be wasting time sending out as CV that is definitely going in the round filling cabinet in the corner. It is a total mindfuck; they are like a sick, twisted, evil parent or something – pretending that they are trying to help you and at the same time setting out to deliberately fuck you up. Just to keep you in an endless cycle and fodder to keep them in their cushy well-paid desk-jobs and comfortable life-styles. Cunts!
Most people list their greatest fear as ‘public speaking’. So why the fuck to these fucking programmes involve so much public speaking? You are hardly in the door before you are ‘introducing yourself’ to a roomful of strangers and ‘telling us about yourself’. Every. Fucking. Scheme is the same – Every. Fucking. Scheme. So you have the heady mix of the fear of public speaking coupled with the fear of being sanctioned for ‘not participating’ in this fucking charade!
Not to mention the endless fucking ‘presentation’. Something stinks rotten with these mindfuck fucking schemes.
Not to mention the endless fucking ‘presentations’. Something stinks rotten with these mindfuck fucking schemes. Almost as if they are purposely designed to make their victims unemployable and trap them in an endless cycle of abuse, because that is what these fucking schemes are – ABUSE!
yep a f m it’s always do one more thing, for the master of one’s brain…still ibs has now admitted eandsa is a complete failure as is he….
ps i’ll add if it’s not glaringly bleeding obvious eandsa was specifically designed to cause even more human misery, and not just one man is responsible for it…
Rt Hon Iain Duncan Smith MP speech on work, health and disability
Mon 24th Aug 2015
Someone who has a job & has got sick or injured & has to take time of work & claim benefit – Work For Your Benefit – Looking for work in a different job to get sickness pay, yet off work sick & injured. Work cures illness.
Magic Healing Words Solves Problems In The Work Place.
Get the paint stripper the get all the gloss off.
The perfect face for target practice with a nuclear bomb. Right between the shifty eyes.
A subdued IDS, a man that maybe coming to the realisation that his actions were wrong.
But it was all right for him to take 6 months off, when it was his wife that was ill.
He look so fucking guilty and ashamed in that youtube video. I’m surprised he has still got the balls to face the public whenever he mouths his fat gob in defiance.
The twat is delusional and is incapable of holding down even a toilet cleaner’s job washing out shitty, clogged up toilets for a few quid each day.
He should be made to clean out old shitty toilets with no gloves for his hands as punishment for all the shit he’s dished out to the poor and sick/disabled. This is the most detested creep in the UK without a doubt.
FIT FOR WORK – ALL RELIES ON ATOS / MAXIMUS TO HOLD UP IDS`s WORDS.
IDS YOU MAKE PEOPLE ILL. SO GET IN ATOS & MAXIMUS.
FIT FOR WORK – FIRST LINE OF DEFENCE. UNIVERSAL CREDIT & FORGOT YOUR ILLNESS.
THE CONTRADICTION IDS POLICY IN FULL FLOW.
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WORK WITH THE JO CENTRE – MAKING CUPS OF TEA.
Not taking it seriously !!!! How can you take a non stop contradiction seriously !!!
While ESA becomes part of Universal Credit. = Wipe out disability & sickness.
Every one works. Supported by IDS & The DWP in Top Ups & DWP Checks = Propaganda speech.
Does he do surgeries as an MP. Needs a group of people to go to one and en masse tell him what he is. Make sure they film it.
IDS has no wheelchair ramp at his MP office.
I doubt that he does surgeries, unless he has armed guards on tap the whole of the time…
Both times the relevant Minister plucked the number of 1 million people out of the air – I suppose it easily rolls off the tongue.
If you haven’t already signed it, go-on sign the no confidence petition in IDS – takes 30 seconds of your time. https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/104436
Priti Patel more than happy to sign.
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Also, at the same time please do this one as well:
https://www.change.org/p/metropolitan-police-cps-investigate-the-manslaughter-of-benefit-claimants
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IDS – A TRUE BASTARD IF EVER THERE WAS ONE
I Incompetent
A Arrogant
I Inept
N Nazi
D Deceitful
U Uncaring
N Nasty
C Cruel
A Asshole
N Notorious Nutter
S Selfish
M Murderer
I Inhumane Idiot
T Tyrant Twat
H Hateful
These are the only ‘good’ words we thought would describe him!
All in all, he is just one big corrupt psychopathic cunt
Here’s another to describe the creature from the black lagoon –
I Irrational
A Arsehole
I Irksome
N Nobhead
D Dickhead
U Ugly
N Nazi
C Complete Cunt
A Abusive
N Nutcase
S Shithead
M Murderer
I Irresponsible Idiot
T Total Twat
H Henious Headcase
And here’s anotheR word to describe him after the DWP produce the fudged mortality deaths report to parliament……….
“HISTORY”
If everything is going tickty boo and the work programme is the best thing since sliced bread and thousands of disabled folks have found work, why make such a speech. (we all know why)!!!!! because its all BS. Arse covering lies, because you have dug yourself a HUGE hole, and are trying to bury as many of us as possible.
IDS!! you took out your revenge and sociopathic rage on the most weakest the UK has.
Remember revenge is sweet, but as the saying goes, you have to dig 2 graves, but in your case you dug one for yourself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and over 10,000 more.
The Labour Party were the grave diggers of the poor IDS was the undertaker that was left holding the corpses of welfare reform.
“ARTICLE 6 OF HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION”
Article 6: The right to a fair trial
Article 6 provides that everyone has the right to a fair trial in both civil and
criminal cases. A party to legal proceedings has the right to be heard by an
independent, impartial tribunal, in public, and within a reasonable amount
of time. Article 6 is not subject to any exceptions
Reference Entry
ROWLAND, Mark (born 1953), an Upper Tribunal Judge (Administrative Appeals Chamber) (formerly a Social Security Commissioner and Child Support Commissioner), since 1993
………………………JUDGE MARK ROWLAND, EX SOCIAL SECURITY COMMISSIONER AND INDEPENDENT APPEALS JUDGE………
“PLEASE STOP LAUGHING”
sarah
so what action should people take in your opinion….?
to appeal or not to appeal is the question, as you know my view one must appeal…
Yet another full scale attack on disabled people by this nazi government . You would think that their last attack, which saw certain disability benefits scrapped and others cut by £30 a week, was bad enough. However, IDS and Cameron’s other Tory bootboys really want to wipe the disabled out for good this time. What IDS seems to have forgotten is there are millions of non- disabled people out there who still can’t get a job, So how can a million plus disabled people suddenly find a job? Everyone knows that many employers are only interested in making loads of money and therefore would rather employ a non- disabled person rather than someone with a disability. But they can’t say this as they would be breaking the law.
So Mr Iain Dickhead Smith, where are the millions of new jobs going to come from and where are all the employers begging to employ disabled people? Answer – there are none really. One only has to look at the evidence from the closed down Remploy factories to see what happens to disabled people in the labour market. In fact most disabled people who used to work at Remploy are still out of work two years later after being thrown on the dole.
But IDS does not give a shit. And why should he? The Tories only look after the rich and the powerful. They think the rest of us are scum who need a good fucking kicking to get us to work hard. All IDS wants is to force disabled people out of claiming benefits which they actually have a right to have. Hey, Dickhead Smith, that’s why people pay National Insurance contributions you thick, stupid cunt.
Cleary this new attack is essentially about cutting more money off the welfare bill. Equally, it’s also in line with the Tory divide and rule narrative about helping ‘hardworking families’ with the assumption the rest of the population who are unable to work are lazy fuckers who steal benefits and don’t want contribute to society.
So my advice to disabled people is to fight back right now against the cuts any way you can. Join campaign groups if you can, write to your MP and tell other people about what’s happening. If you give up now the Tories will be free to eventually bring back a 21st century version of the Workhouse and anybody who has researched these institutions knows they were murder houses for the poor and the sick.
The only chance the tory government have of attracting a takeover of welfare platforms is to lower the outgoing cost base which entails cutting everybodys benefit to the bone.
Reduce the blanket overheads and suddenly an insurance based buyer from the private health insurance industry will put in a formal bid.
Lobbyists for one of the provincial giants will have already lured prominent kingpin political players to push for a private takeover.
Whoever they have in mind is just waiting in the wings for the time to pounce but they are beginning to get a little edgy because both labour and tory governments promised the transition would happen many years ago.
DUNKO THE CLOWN has been given the hard word by those around him on the select committee and by the vultures / predators / parasites.
The people of this country that paid into the national insurance system are being duped, the government have changed the remit of welfare reform withiout the agreement of those in receipt.
This scenario has not been followed up because the judiciary in the uk is in the pockets of those that pay them.
How can you be awarded a lifetime or indefinite award that is recognised by a bonafide medical adjudication panel only to have it overturned by a five minute shyster working for somebody like ATOS, CAPITA, SEETEC OR MAXIMUS.
Any good lawyer worth his salt could bankrupt this corrupt government, but the crooked powdered wig brigade are polluting the waters..
I haven’t forgotten Hain yet. Nearly as bad as IDS, and I suspect only saved from being as bad as IDS because he was working from a standing start and Bliar didn’t give him enough rope to hang himself with… Another excellent post, JV.
Fen & Sarah – Good ones!
anon – he has pretty much dug his own grave – but only at the expense of the poor unfortunates who have died and topped themselves before him.
Hopefully before too long he will see justice, at last meted out to him.
Santa hates you – Yes, you are also true in what you say.
IDS’ mother and father were actually brother and sister. It fully explains as to why the lunatic is a complete and utter asswipe on the bottom of his live-in lover david camoron.
Judge Mark Rowland is another one who should be taken to task – why on earth is as an-ex DWP Commissioner in charge of the Appeal Tribunal system (as I understand it). Not only is there an obvious conflict of interest, but he is seemingly, going against much of the Human Rights legislation that is currently in place and which he is in a position to uphold.
This man surely also, has many, many searching questions to answer.
paul
i’ll tell you the procedure, get sick note from GP, claim eandsa get assessment rate, wait get esa50 from dwp/contractor…fill it in within 28days, wait, get app for WCA attend WCA, wait get found fit for work, notify council fill in council forms for benefits, wait for hb ct to be reinstated @ the same time respond extensively to dwp decision, ask for MR (benefit payments suspended until DM has looked @ decision), wait, DM upholds fit for work decision, basic benefits are reinstated send in gl24 appeal form wait, keep sending in sick notes until FtT, if dwp decision upheld, contact council fill in forms for hb ct benefit reinstatement..do more paperwork ask for set aside, if not leave to appeal to UtT within….28 days….of FtT decision …all of that falls within the human rights act, the state is allowed to do this without a breach…. although imo this ordeal clearly breaches one’s human rights, it is not seen as doing so by the eu nor the state….
ps if this is outside of 6mths of original fit for work decision or condition worsens make a reclaim for eandsa..nb if set aside or leave to appeal grant bens are reinstated for the interim…..eandsa are what are known as passport benefits for the purposes of hb ct….
overburdenddonkey – yes, thanks for that – what an absolute travesty of a performance. It just goes to show how bad the actual ‘system’ is and as you say, needs to be completely scrapped.
As for the EU & the state – both should be ashamed that this is allowed to occur in the first place.
paul
but this is the way it is and one must follow this procedure, register an interest @ the outset or one gets nothing… a UtT judge can grant leave to appeal to it, outside the 28days but one must have good reasons….the word appeal has maximum meaning as this is literally what one is doing…all arguments must be logical and persuasive or you’ll get nowhere…’error in law’ should imo be interpreted as wrong in law, use reference to natural law….learn from it…getting one’s rights met is a serious business…
getting one’s rights met is a serious business…should add, this shouldn’t be the case, they’ve actually been turned into privilege but this is what one must do, by cause of eandsa spanner which has forced claimant to prove need…so we’re definitely in the undeserving/deserving realm which makes many very uncomfortable including myself…
overburdenddonkey – Yes, if I were ever in that position I would go through the procedure, whilst throwing all at it that I could get my hands on. Of what I have read on here for some time now – one should appeal definitely – if you don’t, then you will most likely lose out anyway. A shitty situation to be in, but it would have to be done regardless!
With the release from DWP of the ‘deaths’ figures on Thursday, 27th August – from then on, the clock will be gradually ticking away for IDS.
It will signal the end of the road for DUNKO THE CLOWN. No matter what he tries to do, the shit will stick and may lead to this governments downfall.
It is quite fulfilling to watch a worm squirm and that is exactly what this balding cunt is, a proverbial worm…
From the moment he attempts to talk away the DWP carnage he is on a downward spiral, whatever is said will be briskly challenged until the true extent of his killing spree is laid out on the table for all to see.
Smith thinks he can walk away from this untarnished, it is up to us to put him in the witness box of the Old Bailey, his hands turning white as he grips the brass rails and listens to his sentence.
Hanging would be too quick and too kind. I could think of a host of punishments to suit his crime, though nothing would come close to the evil he has dished out on the most vulnerable..
Hanging is too good for this bastard, Sarah!
And then – this Nazi Government itself needs to be toppled – just like Thatcher’s was. However, they may just topple themselves given enough time (and increasing protests). It’s like the destruction of an old and increasingly unstable cooling tower – the higher they are, the heavier they fall.
Latest news: Re the Chilcott Report – they are suggesting going after Tony Bliar (at long last!) and possibly also other ‘Ministers’ in his Government.
Shame that they do not immediately announce an investigation into the mad & bad gobshite IDS, (the mass murderer of benefit claimants), as well as the other apparrent possible ‘lawbreaker’ Judge Mark Rowland.
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My auntie was on jsa Applied for esa been on it 3 weeks and has to go for a medical
Ian Duncan Smith is just like Heinrich Himmler and would use the same methods to get rid of those who are superfluous. A right evil rat.
IDS is far more evil and worse than Himmler.
Fen Tiger yes he is a scumbag. A friend of mine who was a taxi driver had worked for thirty years and had a heart attack, then a stroke. He is learning to speak again and has difficulty with coordination and he is terrified because Smith will want him working as soon as possible. He loved his job. But he knows how the system will treat him. As someone said on this blog we are all in a situation where illness can strike at anytime. My uncle a retired plasterer told me he would not like to be young with a family because of the way these evil ruthless politicians treat people. We are all an illness away from Maximus.
Hard working family visits Dismaland, the place where all your dreams come true.
The arty-farty collective is confused what is the point of visiting a facsimile of Dismaland when the citizens are already living in the real Dismaland that those very artists and social engineers helped construct?
Don’t knock it til you’ve tried it… Are all art exhibitions a waste of time? People have always made works of art, partly to satirise the establishment/consumer society if they think something needs said/drawn/sculpted – not everyone will want to go or live near enough to queue up. Should we not have the angel of the north or Anthony gormless’ figures on the beach at Liverpool in that case? Lady Chatterbox, rodin’s ‘thinker’?… What have any of these people done but use different means to create/provoke thought/entertain? Not sure we needed ‘My Bed’ so much, but someone made it – what can you do?
Mary Shelley’s ‘frankinstein’ – roundly not received with open arms initially but look at how it’s run & run. Oscar Wilde ~ sent to gaol for being disapproved of ..
IDS/McScameron should be taken on a tour of ‘the real’ dismal land though & let them see the divisions they’ve created ~ if only they had eyes to see or brains to think with.
Works more like a conditioning tool, a diorama reinforcing the real world Dismaland, a diorama that enchants the visitors condition as puerile spectator and consumer.
Think it says more about the dystopian state of mind of the contemporary artists that conspired the Dismaland diorama than anything else.
yep don’t have to create a dismaland, just open one’s eyes, it’s already there….
There has already been a dismaland long before banksy created one. We all know it to be called the ‘jobcentreplus’.
say one thing for banksy he’s got a sense of humour if not irony…
Art is dead long live replicating bitter irony. 🙂
@shirleynott
Bear in mind that Banksey, the creator of Dismaland, is notorious for his attacks on governments, big business and consumerism.
Reblogged this on BertieS.
Work at the jobcentre but you won’t be paid
Camden New Journal – 13th Aug 2015
BENEFIT claimants are being offered full-time but unpaid work – at a jobcentre.
An unemployed man, who did not wish to be named, said it felt “galling” to be invited to work without pay at Kentish Town Jobcentre.
The 9am-to-5pm “work experience” placement was one of several non-paid positions being “heavily suggested” by staff to those out of work, according to the jobseeker.
Welfare officers can “sanction” housing and unemployment benefits and many people feel they could lose money if they do not take on voluntary positions.
The unemployed man said: “The jobs listed are a mixture of paid and voluntary positions, but the jobcentre was wholly unpaid.
“I’ve been looking for paid work for a while now, but this is the first I’ve seen of actual unpaid labour within the jobcentre itself. They have been downsizing significantly and I assume this is how they’re retaining staff on the cheap.”
A spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions said work experience at the jobcentre could be good for a jobseeker’s CV, adding: “People who are looking for work experience can get a huge amount out of a stint of work experience at the jobcentre, where they will learn new skills, like customer service and communication.”
http://www.camdennewjournal.com/news/2015/aug/work-jobcentre-you-won%E2%80%99t-be-paid
Stops people looking for paid work.
skills, like customer service and communication
Well he’s not going to learn much about those skills in a Jobcentre is he.
Oh, the bitter irony.
I had an argument with someone who was on ESA, who helps other ESA people get jobs as she volunteers at a job centre.. i called her a traitor
Is that someone’s home against the left hand window of the JC.
Given time all jobcentre paid staff will be sacked and replaced by an army of unpaid workers supplied by a work programme provider and that these WPP placements will be placed in front line desk jobs dealing with benefit claims of their fellow un-employed people.
I can expect the next time I have to sign on that my claim will be handled by some un-employed chav (high on drugs and drink) currently on two years attendance of the work programme instead of my usual JCP advisor…
A member of staff at my local job centre said their jobs are on the line.
“People who are looking for work experience can get a huge amount out of a stint of work experience at the jobcentre, where they will learn new skills, like customer service and communication.”
LOL! WTF! Now i’ve heard it all! Excuse me while i writhe on the floor laughing ma heid aff! Customer fucking service???!!! For someone who’s probably the most unsuitable soul to be working with the public!! I mean they waffle on and on with this absolute BS. Never mind this shit where are the jobs? The real jobs with a decent proper pay at the end of the week/month. People don’t need this BS experience they can get that on the job while they work. What a total outright farce the DWP and JCP are. They should be shut down and disbanded as not fit for purpose.
Meanwhile back in the real world, instead of the fake one that the Tories and New Labour inhabit, it’s plastered all over a daily paper up here: “JOBCENTRE PLUS; REGIME OF CRUELTY” Then it go’s on to detail their lies and friggin’ deviant conduct. How they try to cheat and sanction people to climb the greasy pole and how folks are sanctioned for no legitimate reason.
It’s unreal how this is going on and no one has been brought to book about all the deaths related to benefit sanctions and abuse of power by the DWP.
How much can one department get away with before the law has to intervene and do something?
One by one all the jobcentres are closing down.
Save Our Job Centre is the banner.
Man, 39, given document containing someone else’s personal information at job centre
Leicester Mercury – 18th Aug 2015
A 39-year-old man says he is “disgusted” with a Leicester job centre after he was given a document containing someone else’s personal information.
The Department for Work and Pensions has launched an investigation into the incident.
Henry Mavesere went to the job centre in Charles Street on Thursday, August 6.
However, after his appointment, instead of being handed paperwork containing his details, he left with a document that included a woman’s name, address and postcode, mobile and landline phone number, date of birth and national insurance number.
Mr Mavesere said he was concerned that his sensitive information could have also been handed to a stranger.
Mr Mavesere, of Stoneygate, Leicester, said: “I am disgusted, to be honest.
“I should be able to trust these people. If I give them my information it should be safe.
“I signed up with the job centre and instead of printing off my details, they handed me personal details of another client.
“I am worried about my personal details in case they could be with somebody else.
“Someone could have my details now and I don’t know who it is.”
Mr Mavesere said he phoned the woman whose personal information he had been given.
When he explained what had happened, she was shocked.
He said: “She was not happy at all. She asked me to send her a copy.”
Mr Mavesere has since contacted the job centre about the issue and has been asked to attend a meeting.
A spokesman for the Department for Work and Pensions said: “We take the security of personal information extremely seriously and are conducting a full investigation into this incident.
“We have spoken to Mr Mavesere and the other claimant affected and apologised. We are arranging for the documents to be retrieved as soon as possible.”
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http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/Man-39-given-document-containing-s-personal/story-27629049-detail/story.html
That`s what happens when the DWP don`t pay their workers.
Another day in the incompetent DWP. First they concoct cock and bull scare stories about the good thing about sanctions, using stolen images of people coupled with made up fairy stories ”based’ upon real customer conversations; and now they are swapping sensitive information of two unemployed people.
No wonder I keep my universal jobmatch account blocked from the cunts apart from the time I go to the job centre myself. 99% of the time my UJM account to the wankers is blocked for good reason. Under the data protection act and article 8 of the European Court of Human Rights Act, I have the lawfully right to protect my own identity, personal information and a right to a private family life.
The DWP and that complete big wanker Smithy are NOT above the law. If I was one of those people who had their life swapped I would have took the DWP to high court and sued the bastards for everything they have.
Straight up breach of Data Protection Act. I assume this applicable to DWP? Have reported Crapita (threat letter to addressed to me started “Dear [another client of their “overpayment” recovery dept”]) !! It was an easy procedure, nothing happened yet tho ?
DWP staff given suicide guidance ahead of Iain Duncan Smith’s welfare reforms
Independent – 25th Aug 2015
Frontline staff at the Department for Work and Pensions have been given guidance on how to deal with suicidal benefit claimants, it has been reported.
The Sunday Herald newspaper says workers have been handed a six-point plan on how to deal with people denied benefits who appear to be suicidal.
Staff at call centres have been instructed to allow rejected claimants for Universal Credit to talk about their intention to kill themselves.
A DWP spokesman did not deny that the guidance had been handed out, and said: “Our frontline Jobcentre staff work hard every day supporting people to find jobs and it is only right we provide a range of training and guidance to assist them in their work.”
Read More:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/dwp-staff-given-suicide-guidance-ahead-of-iain-duncan-smiths-welfare-reforms-10470754.html
Herald Scotland – 23rd Aug 2015
manager is then meant to rush over to listen in to the call and workers – who insist they have had no formal training in the procedure – must “make some assessment on the degree of risk” by asking a series of questions.
One section of the six-point plan, titled “gather information”, demands that staff allow claimants to talk about their intention to commit suicide.
The call-centre workers, who earn between £15,000 and £17,000 a year, must “find out specifically what is planned, when it is planned for, and whether the customer has the means-to-hand”, according to the guidance seen by the Sunday Herald.
Staff are also warned in the plan that they may have “thoughts and feelings” about the situation afterwards and offered reassurance that “this is all part of the process of coping with the experience and is normal”.
Glasgow-based call-centre workers have accused the DWP of asking them to carry out the job of a psychologist or social worker.
The SNP have accused the UK Government of “playing a dangerous game with people’s lives”.
Universal Credit combines six working-age benefits – including housing benefit, Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) and tax credits – into a single payment. Although not yet fully rolled out across the UK, Universal Credit is already available to benefit claimants in more than 40 so-called “Jobcentre areas” in Scotland, including Glasgow, Edinburgh, Stirling, Inverness and Dumfries as well as parts of Lanarkshire, Aberdeenshire and Ayrshire.
http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/13620988._Suicide_guidance__given_to_benefits_staff_preparing_for_desperate_calls_on_welfare_reform/
The whole problem with this approach is that (generally speaking) people who threaten to commit suicide don’t follow through – they just do it! Also people who are intent on suicide do it in such a way that they won’t be ‘discovered’ and perform the act by irreversible means e.g. hanging, shotgun; this applies particularly to men who outnumber women by a large margin in ‘successful’ suicide attempts. A poignant case that comes to mind is the young girl in England who was found hanging from a tree in the woods. The DWP cannot wash their hands of their responsibilities by claiming that they have a pink laminated card ‘suicide prevention plan in operation’ since it is predicated on the false assumption that potential suicide victims will announce their plans, and furthermore announce their plans to DWP staff; members of an organisation that is directly responsible for their predicament and consequential suicidal feelings; members of an organisation who drove them to this state in the first place, If we are not careful we are going to reach a situation where benefits claimants are just found ‘hanging from a tree in the woods’.
The same modus operandi applies when it comes to acts of violence. People who are going to commit acts of violence, in the main, do not ‘flag them up’ beforehand by, for instance, issuing threats; they just do it – something for jobcentre staff to bear in mind.
The DWP is treading on very dangerous ground here for both claimants and their staff.
mental
yep a reasonable summation, to which i’m sure we could add a great deal more…
Only because i was scared of myself the feelings i was getting, in a few lucid minutes i called my doctors and said look.. if i dont get help now i am worried .. i could see myself getting worse and that was the only reason why i am still here.. If i hadnt had the courage i would have wandered off and “vanished” into nowhere..had it all planned.. and the thoughts are still there in the back of my head
Greenwood4727 – I’m glad you reached out for help and I’m glad your doctor was decent and actually helped you instead of fobbing you off. I know I don’t know you but I can tell from reading your posts that you are a decent human being, and the more decent people there are alive in the world the better it is for humanity in general, and the more it helps boost others who may be suffering.
Just by having to go to a depressing jobcentre is more than enough to make me feel suicidal for the rest of the fortnight.
And it takes a whole fortnight since your last visit before you begin to feel a bit better then you suddenly realise you have to visit the God-forsaken infernal shit-hole all over again… 😦
Same experience … 😦
Ditto+… & (minimum) recovery around 1 year:around 6 months spent going there. The amount of time before some of those feelings can even start to reduce.
And/or they’ll pretty much be there at some level, lower (even much lower) rather than ever-present/severe. They won’t ever be forgotten though & anyone connected with the dept for barriers to work and sanctions should be having a long, hard look at themselves & at what they are doing to earn a crust.
It’s not an easy thing to describe unless experienced. Hence the reason for support groups (eg. people who share or have been through particular illnesses or have in some way been through similar traumatic experience/s). I used to be relatively sanguine & fairly ambivalent about needing to sign on (way back, & in a previous life) not in recent years, obviously, when more accurately can describe feeling fairly traumatised/as if about to go into battle. & it absolutely is a battle (war) in all respects.
The DWP now think they are Samaritans.
A DWP “spokesperson” said.
Volunteers & unpaid work.
It’s so nice and refreshing to hear that why our once proud country has gone to the dogs, dodgy dave and his missus are currently spending their tax-payer afforded holiday in Cornwall. Photos of which are being spread around some newspapers of him pretending to be one of the Beach Boys trying his hand at attempting surfing all while his secret lover Idiotic Iain is about to put the disabled to the slaughter with his bollocked-up ESA reforms.
Dodgy Dave once spoke of protecting the vulnerable in our society back in 2010 when he illegally gained power through his brainwashing techniques in the faked general election. Roll on five years and both he and his partner-in-hate idiotic Iain have backtracked on his written promise to fully protect all vulnerable members of society all to satisfy his wager of £1 to somehow reduce the benefit bill.
History will judge those two evil bastards to be even worse than Hitler when he sent all those jews to the gas chamber during WWII. Dodgy dave is carrying out the 21st century equivalent of the Nazi death camps by cutting off and reducing essential ESA payments and specialised social care for disabled people and even their carers.
I was just thinking as a civil disobience protest t to highlight unfair sanctions that puts people with no money until hardship considered or found fit for work at wca could thesuffers organise them selves on mass to target
the big supermarkets and shoplift on masse sandwiches pies etc eat them inside and out tweeting to press a direct action campaign worked recently for the milk farmers anyone any thoughts wheather feasible and possible
The farmers even brought their pet cows into the stores 😀
fred – good idea and perhaps it could be don,e but would need quite a bit of organisation (and publicity) to achieve it.
Re ‘stealing’ though – that could be tricky and may lead to all sorts of different consequences for those concerned – depending upon how it was handled at the time (and also reported upon by the ‘national press/media & local press/media)!
On all of dodgy daves photos of his holidays, not one of his kids in any of them. Does he leave them in the pub whilst he’s down on the beach?
Fen – I noticed on one of your posts about the possible ‘friendship’ between Cameron & IDS. Who knows? This may be true and I strongly suspect that there may be some form of ‘blackmail’ or something similar going on between them to keep both of these pompous & arrogant twats in power!
Limerick by Ulsterfry
Dear Satan, Please wish me success
(You know how I aim to impress!)
Your Suicide Scheme
Should work like a dream
Big savings! Regards, IDS
sarah – and this is a really good one too!
JUDGE ROWLAND HAS SAID,
THAT I’M BETTER OFF DEAD,
MY HUMAN RIGHTS NOT BEING BREACHED.
BUT ASK YOURSELF WHY?,
THIS ARROGANT GUY,
CONTINUES IN OFFICE, INSTEAD.
THE APPEALS THAT HE BLOCKS.
PUT THOSE IN A BOX,
THIS GOVERNMENT PLANT IN A WIG.
HIS WALLET GROWS FAT,
FROM UPON THOSE THAT HE SHAT,
THIS IMPOSTER BELONGS IN THE STOCKS.
YOUR RIGHT TO FAIR TRIAL,
IN UTTER DENIAL,
EX COMMISSIONER PLAYING AT GOD,
READ ARTICLE SIX,
IT PROHIBITS HIS TRICKS
INDEPENDENT, NOT PART OF THE BILE…………………….
sarah – a brilliant poem and very true too!
IDS at the wheel of his vintage car
All right for some… 🙂
Wonder how many benefit sanctions it took to pay for that extravagance?…. 😉
I hope his bleeding brakes fail and he crashes into a concrete wall, therefore doing us all a favour and killing himself.
Looks like a Morgan, about £45,000 new, though I’m sure he found a way to scrounge one.
Probably got the car on expenses.
Just look at the fucking gormless (but rich) bastard.
He could well be a reincarnation of Herr Himmler driving an SS Staff car.
Someone ought to photoshop this – and turn him into a Nazi in full uniform sitting in the SS Staff car.
A ‘poster’ could then be made of it!
Reinhard Heydrich made the mistake of going round prague in an open topped car …..
Don’t think Morgans are armoured either!
I wish that this son of a bitch would drive round in an open topped car!
” ” ” “
http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2015/08/26/moodievision-for-illustrative-purposes-only/ WARNING; IDS MONKEY 🙂
DWP Suicide Nudge Unit.
Begs the question is IDS ideologically driven or a hollow psychopathic careerist.
Priti – Probably both (and more)!
Signed Petition for Ian Duncan Smith to Resign as Secretary of State
For Work and Pensions
Britain Needs to Fight Back against Oppression and Slavery by Poverty
and Destitution
How the F..k do I ask my son to pay my rent like almost 50 quid just because I’m sick and no pip. Just 56 quid a week. Then an extra 450 council tax bill on top of 200 for this year plus under occupancy. Non dependant deductions are criminal. His privalaged mates haven’t got this problem. Mummy’s n Daddy’s paying for their cars,tests. Sick peoples kids are getting the shit end of the stick after probably a shit life so far!
It has got to be THE most overlooked problem so far. Parents must be hiding their kids as in a war. What parent…..any of you handed all their details and wages to the greedy councils/government? Leave school, get a job, pay parents rent for ever cos u can’t afford to save and get own place.
Non dependant deductions – no much said about this subject, you can home a 101 dogs but you are taxed-fined for not evicting your teenage Sons and Daughters from their home.
“Parents must be hiding their kids as in a war.”
Yes there is a lot of that going on.
A lot of people have never even heard of ‘non-dependant deductions’ until they get hit by them. As Priti Patel says, there is very little known about these by the day to day general public!
Went and signed man Duncan smith resign petition too.
People Need to Get Out and Demonstrate and put Up Posters
Demanding that the Poor and Vulnerable are Treated with Human
Dignity instead of being Oppressed in Nazi Slavery Britain of Destitution on
one Hand and Tax Breaks for Selfish Millionaires on the Other
Whilst too Many Collaborate Not Least by Acting the Brainwashed Zombie
out There Britain Does Need a Revolution in the Sphere of Politics to
End Degrading Poverty Destitution and Slave Labour
This Needs the Support of More than Just the Honourable Few
The Founder of the Ming Dynasty of Imperial China the Hongwu Emperor
was Born into a Very Poor Peasant Family in Rural China .
Now if in the Celestial Empire a Poor Peasant Background Man can
become Emperor then Surely in ” Democratic Britain ” a Man with
Morality instead of Materialism Not from a background of Obscene
Wealth should be able to become Prime Minister or a Very Senior
Cabinet Minister
Very Spot On Down with this Nazi Regime which is Hardly a
” Democratic ” Government
Santa hates you | August 25, 2015 at 7:49 pm | Reply
Yet another full scale attack on disabled people by this nazi government . You would think that their last attack, which saw certain disability benefits scrapped and others cut by £30 a week, was bad enough. However, IDS and Cameron’s other Tory bootboys really want to wipe the disabled out for good this time. What IDS seems to have forgotten is there are millions of non- disabled people out there who still can’t get a job, So how can a million plus disabled people suddenly find a job? Everyone knows that many employers are only interested in making loads of money and therefore would rather employ a non- disabled person rather than someone with a disability. But they can’t say this as they would be breaking the law.
So Mr Iain Dickhead Smith, where are the millions of new jobs going to come from and where are all the employers begging to employ disabled people? Answer – there are none really. One only has to look at the evidence from the closed down Remploy factories to see what happens to disabled people in the labour market. In fact most disabled people who used to work at Remploy are still out of work two years later after being thrown on the dole.
But IDS does not give a shit. And why should he? The Tories only look after the rich and the powerful. They think the rest of us are scum who need a good fucking kicking to get us to work hard. All IDS wants is to force disabled people out of claiming benefits which they actually have a right to have. Hey, Dickhead Smith, that’s why people pay National Insurance contributions you thick, stupid cunt.
Cleary this new attack is essentially about cutting more money off the welfare bill. Equally, it’s also in line with the Tory divide and rule narrative about helping ‘hardworking families’ with the assumption the rest of the population who are unable to work are lazy fuckers who steal benefits and don’t want contribute to society.
So my advice to disabled people is to fight back right now against the cuts any way you can. Join campaign groups if you can, write to your MP and tell other people about what’s happening. If you give up now the Tories will be free to eventually bring back a 21st century version of the Workhouse and anybody who has researched these institutions knows they were murder houses for the poor and the sick.
One by one all the jobcentres are closing down.
Save Our Job Centre is the banner.
just caught Michael Portillo talking to Alan Johnson (2 nazis together) talking about the abolition of the slave trade on tv – abolition? – it’s still alive and kicking in the UK in 2015 – fucking bastards
yep, rich coming from the newspaper that claimed we’re better together….
I’ve been saying it for ages and will continue to write it regularly on here until we see action against these two evil institutions. I want to see JCP disbanded as not fit for purpose as they don’t attempt to get people jobs. Their sole purpose is to punish, bully and sanction people into ill health and an early grave. As for the DWP; i want to see them investigated for complicity in the deaths of thousands of our fellow citizens. The DM’s that made the decisions need to be investigated with a view to criminal proceedings being taken against them for the complete dereliction of duty.they have shown regarding the poorest and most vulnerable in our society.
DWP + JCP = SCUM.
sorry raining, they control all resources so it ain’t gonna happen…
Sanctions – a single claim can have multiple sanctions it would take a skilled archivists to disentangle all the sanctions against this household over the last few months could be up to 20.
No longer appeal as it is a waste of time.
Sanction Centre Plus Smith wants as many deaths as possible hence the policy of driving people to the abyss from a rich psychopath. Warren Buffet did say it won’t end well for the rich.
Figures suggest Dundee-Glasgow benefit sanctions ‘lottery’
I hate this baldy bastard with every fiber of my being. The party I had when Thatcher died will seem like a wake in comparison to the day this evil bastard croaks his last breath.
I hate the baldy bastard too Cephalus he is the scum of the earth.
I hate the working class JCP work coaches that have been more than happy to maliciously sanction they are worse than IDS.
IDS is remote the work coaches kill claimants up close and personal.
He can see the look of disappointment in their face as you crawl in with your feeble body racked with the effects of malnutrition to sign on for jack-shit as your sanction period grinds on. They expect you to have DIED! They want your DEAD! ATTEMPTED MURDER!
Unions slam DWP for hiring following job losses in June – See more at:
Recruiter – 25th Aug 2015
The Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) has come under fire from unions for recruiting 2,800 people on short-term contracts after shedding thousands of staff in June.
The new jobs at the DWP aim to help implement welfare reforms over the next 18 months.
The department is currently rolling out Universal Credit, a single monthly payment for people in or out of work. Launched in 2013, it replaces income-based Jobseeker’s Allowance and income-related Employment and Support Allowance. The gradual transition is to be completed by 2017.
But the DWP has come under fire from civil service union PCS (Public and Commercial Services) for the recruitment drive, with the union claiming the department shed 3,671 jobcentre staff in June. The union said it believes the figures show many of the new jobs are in similar areas and the work could have carried out by existing staff, with “minimal” retraining and set-up costs.
In a statement, a DWP spokesperson said the department is currently undertaking big welfare reforms and recruiting people on short fixed-term contracts to cover this 18-month period.
The spokesperson added there were no compulsory redundancies in June but there had in fact been 3,824 voluntary exits of staff in that month.
http://www.recruiter.co.uk/news/2015/08/unions-slam-dwp-for-hiring-following-job-losses-in-june/
The DWP Work Programme. Work at the DWP for your benefits.
I can see things going wrong. I don`t care I`m in work.
so the good people will leave, because they cant cope anymore, leaving the nasty .. and what about the “volunteers” at the dwp,, i know of at least one who claims they are on ESA, and are in the job centres “helping” other people on ESA get a job.. of course she is not getting paid for it..
How many other people will the dwp replace.. I told the pcs union this months ago but no reply.. now its happening
I hate them as well but he is the face behind it all. He should be swinging for his crimes and so should anyone who has stopped someones benefit. Stopping someones benefit is attempted murder.
I was horrified (still am) and then quite quickly petrified on being informed, in the middle of an open-plan office in 2012, that the total massive amount of benefit could be withheld – for a minimum of 3 weeks. And it would depend on what I said next (my ‘reasons’). It would have been for (allegedly) missing a meeting ahead of an initial JSA payment being made.
Three months later (in January), i saw the first (for me) direct & incontrovertible evidence that this really was/is summarily happening, when talking to a single parent whose ‘lone parent adviser’ (!) had sanctioned her – over xmas – for ‘not doing enough & etc’. We were on a (self-funded) computer course. Her 12 year-old daughter had been poorly over xmas (there was a lot of sickness around/it was freezing) & they had had no hot water. I will always remember the look on her face as she was trying not to re-live/trying to move on from (?!) the experience 2/3 weeks after it had happened to them – having managed to continue making it in to the course while sanctioned/just after
after. I’m not sure I would have. Happy Xmas from JCP-…. Ebenezer Scrooge could not have done a better job before visits from the ghosts of decision-makers past. Those shady characters, whoever they are, should come out into the light & pass their sentences in public if their consciences allow them to do this within the limits of their job deception (description).
Iain Duncan Smith – probably the most hated man in Britain
He’s hit the unemployed
He’s hit the working poor
He’s hit the poor
He’s hit the sick
He’s hit the physically disabled
He’s hit the mentally disabled
He’s hit the physical & mentally disabled
He’s hit disabled children
He’s hit people with cancer and other diseases
He’s hit people with addictions
He’s hit the homeless
He’s hit, or is soon going to hit, most if not all working age benefit claimants
From tomorrow, let’s take back control of this situation and hit this fucking bastard in all possible and practicable ways that are available to us.
Also, to Johnny Void – thank you for this website and for allowing us to say exactly what we think and mean – it is greatly appreciated by all of us
Shirley. I gather tickets are now being touted so who can afford to get in. Good one re “Gormless” btw, at least Banksy doesn’t suck up lootery cash for second rate public art or memorials for our “glorious dead”
I’d love to know why IDS hates disabled people so much.
He’s not interested enough in ordinary people even to hate them.
……….because his mother starred in the black and white fim, Young Frankenstein.
She was in a jar on the top shelf.
IDS is clearly not in full control of the JCP shop floor it is clear to anyone that signs on that the work coaches are running amok, I know IDS is setting the agenda but there also a contempt for claimants on the shop floor that runs parallel with the official agenda but is distinct and independent of it.
Who knows maybe the work coaches hype up on TV poverty porn before going into work.
Johnny – You are WRONG. If you focus all your efforts on attacking just one politician then you absolutely guarantee your failure to change anything at all. Even in the (extremely unlikely) event that public pressure could force IDS out, there isn’t a shortage of more IDS clones waiting within the Tory and New Labour organisations.
You can ONLY make a difference by working to support a viable and more moral alternative…..
Have any of you paid your three quid and voted for Corbyn? How about you OBD? Cancel your Sun newspaper subscription and do it!
elbow
yeah, obd pays for a Scum newspaper subscription 🙂 Oh, the bitter irony 😀
Scum and newspaper – kind a contradiction in terms that – more like a fucking comic!
One step at a time.. remember when they said Emma Harrison was the poster child.. what happened.. she ran.. I personally publicised internationally what Jonty Olliff cooper said when he worked at a4e and made a comment and he quit his job shortly after.. I spoke to the bbc, radio 4 newspapers about a4e.. i even spoke to some australian reporters about a4e as they are in australia as well.. We have to fight one step at a time, too many times we have too many enemies that our efforts are minimal..
Jem seems to be a lovely man but he is still, unavoidably, a member of the Labour party … & they haven’t been making any difference. Perhaps he’ll have the will and the support to start redredressing balances but he’s going to be working with Reeves/Burnham & so it seems highly unlikely he’ll be able to bin Sanctions/WCA even if he’d perhaps really like to. I’m not going back there. Wild horses & all that, but if there were more corbybesque~types (many more) alongside him we might stand a chance of some tiny fairness being introduced.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/video-news/video-iain-duncan-smith-plays-down-fuss-over-fake-stories-31474074.html Video: Iain Duncan Smith plays down ‘fuss’ over fake stories
what other leaflets are faked.. there needs to be a complete check of all dwp leaflets.. of course its teflon iain of course wonder who he is going to bully into tears for that
Universal jobmatch is full of fake nonsense constantly posted and re-posted over and over again under constantly changing reference numbers.
http://www.greenbenchesuk.com/2014/01/the-cost-of-ids-100-ways-iain-duncan.html from 15 JANUARY 2014
Sorry. I was not sure where I should put this important info.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/mortality-statistics-esa-ib-and-sda-claimants
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistics/mortality-statistics-out-of-work-benefit-claimants-march-2003-to-february-2014
Total number of individuals with a WCA decision between 1 May 2010 and 28 February 2013
2,017,070
of which: Number who died within a year of that decision.
40,680
PDF
Click to access mortality-statistics-esa-ib-sda.pdf
Source: DWP WPLS and data derived from administrative data held by the DWP and assessment data provided by Atos Healthcare
WCA Deaths looks like well over 70,000. But the DWP can`t tell how they died as they keep saying in the PDF.
“”””The figures supplied are derived from unpublished information and have not been quality assured to National Statistics or Official Statistics publication standard. They should therefore be treated with caution.”””
So take with a pinch of salt officaly.
“”””DWP does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the WCA decision and the number of people who died within a year of that decision should be assumed from these figures.””””
Make that 85,000 DWP & WCA Deaths.
JV needs to do a new thread.
Total number of IB/SDA and ESA off-flows
with date of death at the same time(3)
81,140
of which: ESA 50,580
IB/SDA 30,560
“””The Department does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the benefit and the number of people who died should be assumed from these figures.”””
===== No Deaths caused by sanctions & cutting off benefits. Very lazy lawyer you have IDS.
PAGE 6 of PDF
Total number of ESA off-flows with date of death at the same time(3)
50,580
of which,
Assessment Phase
7,540
Work Related Activity Group
7,200
Support Group
32,530
Unknown (4)
3,320
””The Department does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the benefit and the number of people who died should be assumed from these figures.”””
Cover Note:=== The DWP are not taking responsibility over any DWP Deaths.
JV is probably typing up a new thread as we type… 😉
Thanks for the link Ed
The 11 most senseless benefit sanction decisions known to man
Benefit sanctions, where a job centre can suspend or dock a claimant’s welfare payments, are becoming increasingly controversial.
The impact of the sanctions vary: in the most extreme cases a person can lose their benefits for three years. Reasons for withdrawing benefits can range to being late for a meeting, failing to turn up on time, or leaving several jobs voluntarily.
In the wake of a diabetic ex-soldier dying after his benefits were sanctioned and three disgruntled ex-DWP civil servants going rogue to help welfare claimants who believe their payments have been wrongly docked, we look at the most ridiculous reasons for sanctioning benefits yet.
“A man with heart problems who was on Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) had a heart attack during a work capability assessment. He was then sanctioned for failing to complete the assessment.„”
Via Debbie Abrahams MP.
“A man who had gotten a job that was scheduled to begin in two weeks’ time was sanctioned for not looking for work as he waited for the role to start.„”
Via the Guardian.
“Army veteran Stephen Taylor, 60, whose Jobseeker’s Allowance (JSA) was stopped after he sold poppies in memory of fallen soldiers.„”
Via the Daily Mirror.
“A man had to miss his regular appointment at the job centre to attend his father’s funeral. He was sanctioned even though he told DWP staff in advance.„”
Via Political Scrapbook.
“Ceri Padley, 26, had her benefits sanctioned after she missed an appointment at the jobcentre – because she was at a job interview.„”
Via the Daily Mail.
“A man got sanctioned for missing his slot to sign on – as he was attending a work programme interview. He was then sanctioned as he could not afford to travel for his job search.„”
Via Citizen’s Advice.
“Sean Halkyward, 24, said his benefits were sanctioned because he looked for too many jobs in one week.„”
Via Pontefract and Castleford Express
“Mother-of-three Angie Godwin, 27, said her benefits were sanctioned after she applied for a role job centre staff said was beyond her.„”
Via Get Reading.
“Sofya Harrison was sanctioned for attending a job interview and moving her signing-on to another day.„”
Via the Guardian.
“Michael, 54, had his benefits sanctioned for four months for failing to undertake a week’s work experience at a charity shop. The charity shop had told him they didn’t want him there.„”
Via the Guardian.
“Terry Eaton, 58, was sanctioned because he didn’t have the bus fare he needed to attend an appointment with the job centre.„”
Via the Guardian.
100Independet –
http://i100.independent.co.uk/article/the-11-most-senseless-benefit-sanction-decisions-known-to-man–x1dmkd2_Me
1.Man who missed appointment due to being at hospital with his partner, who had just had a stillborn child.
2.Man sanctioned for missing an appointment at the jobcentre on the day of his brother’s unexpected death. He had tried to phone Jobcentre Plus to explain, but could not get through and left a message which was consequently not relayed to the appropriate person.
3.Man who carried out 60 job searches but missed one which matched his profile.
4.Man had an appointment at the jobcentre on the Tuesday, was taken to hospital with a suspected heart attack that day, missed the appointment and was sanctioned for nine weeks.
5.Man who secured employment and was due to start in three weeks. He was sanctioned in the interim period because JCP told him he was still duty bound to send his CV to other companies.
6.Young couple who had not received any letters regarding an appointment that was thus subsequently missed. Their address at the Department for Work and Pensions was wrongly recorded. They were left with no money for over a month.
7.One case where the claimant’s wife went into premature labour and had to go to hospital. This caused the claimant to miss an appointment. No leeway given.
8.One man sanctioned for attending a job interview instead of Jobcentre Plus – he got the job so did not pursue grievance against the JCP.
9.Man who requested permission to attend the funeral of his best friend; permission declined; sanctioned when he went anyway.
10.A diabetic sanctioned and unable to buy food was sent to hospital by GP as a consequence.
TheGuardian
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/24/benefit-sanctions-trivial-breaches-and-administrative-errors
Petition On Line for Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as Secretary of State for Work and Pensions
So far it seems to of got over 74,500 Signatures less than 500 Short of 75,000 Signatures.
The More People that Sign the Petition the more Momentum their can be for his Resignation over the Disgusting Attacks on the Poor and Vulnerable.
The Piss Take Inflicted upon the Poor and Vulnerable Never should of
Happened on the First Place had All those Thick Pratts out There
Voted Tory in May 2010 AD and then the Obnoxious Liberal Democrats
propped them up like a Bunch of Cronies and Needs to be Ended
No More Horror Cases of Murder by Poverty like David Clapson
“DWP CORPORATE MANSLAUGHTER”
…………..AND DON’T FORGET THESE FIGURES HAVE BEEN MANIPULATED AND REMAIN UNVERIFIED,
THE REAL FIGURE IS MUCH, MUCH, HIGHER……
Mortality Statistics
: ESA, IB, and SDA
Published on 27 August
2015
Page
3
Information reques
t 1
The total number of people who have died within a year of their work
capability assessment since May 2010
The information
requested
is shown in Table 1.
Please note that the Work
Capability Assessment (WCA) has been interpreted as the full end
–
to
–
end
assessment in line with the published
Official
S
tatistics on ESA WCA
. T
herefore
the date of the WCA decision has been used as the base.
It should also be noted that to ensure that all deaths within one year of WCA are
captured accurately in relation to a measureable base, the data provided
below
includes WCA decisions up to 28 February 2013. This is because information
relating to date of death is currently available up to 28 February 2014.
For instance, if someone received a WCA decision in January 2014 and then died
in March 2014, their death would not be included in the number of deaths
published below
. Accordingly, so as to ensure accuracy in relation to
the
request,
that person would not be included in the total number of individuals in receipt of a
WCA decision published
below
.
Table 1: Total number of individuals with a Work Capability Assessment
(WCA) decision between 1 May 2010 and 28 February 2013 and of those the
number
who died
within a year
of that decision
, Great Britain: May 2010 to
February
2014
Total number of individuals with a
WC
A
decision
between 1 May 2010 and 28 Feb
ruary
2013
2,017,070
of which:
Number who died within a year of that
decision.
40,680
Source
:
DWP WPLS and data derived from administrative data held by the DWP and assessment
data provided by Atos Healthcare
You forgot the cover note of the DWP are not responsible
””The Department does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the benefit and the number of people who died should be assumed from these figures.”””
I`m on Page 7 now out of 10.
Page 7 & 8 are DWP Adverts.
The figures supplied are derived from unpublished information and have not been quality assured to National Statistics or Official Statistics publication standard. They should therefore be treated with caution.
DWP does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the benefit and the number of people who died should be assumed from these figures.
Meaning shove it in your face, we don`t care, many more DWP deaths & the DWP don`t Give A Shit because they are not Lie Able.
Last & Final Page 10
Annex 1: Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) groups and phases information
A ADVERT FOR A DEATH WISH & THE DWP DEATH CAMPS.
One death by suicide, through removal of benefits, is simply one death too many. Idiotic Drunken Shite has blood on his hands and needs to be tried for crimes against humanity.
“40,680 AND THAT IS ONLY HALF THE TRUTH”
…….ANYBODY, OR ORGANISATION, THAT SEEKS TO HIDE SOMETHING WILL ALWAYS CONSIDER ANOTHER METHOD OF MASKING THE TRUTH BY USING STATISTICS………………
WAIT TILL THE TRUE FIGURE EMERGES.
sarah7 – Are you doing Geoff’s comments for him? Tell him I hope he’s bearing up, and I miss him being on here in person (as it were).
No, but i wish him well.
Every one of you people on this site have been an inspiration to those that are suffering from the Tory Eugenics programme.
sarah – yeah, I pray to God he’s ok – I can’t blame him for contemplating suicide in the past but he’s come through these thoughts so far and emerged as strong in spirit as ever, although of course being abused by this scum government has taken a severe toll on his physical health – inspirational is the perfect word to describe him – hope he’s back on here soon, in his usual defiant fighting form. These bastards in government will get what’s coming to them sooner than they think.
Thank you sarah7 for your kind words 🙂
I have to say that at least most, probably all of us, who post on here have been through the DWP labelled meat grinder at some point or other regarding ESA and/or JSA removal of payments all because of some stuck up jobsworthy cunt trying to impress his/her boss at their jobcentre work place and to impress that tosser in crime Idiotic Drunken Shite.
Thousands have died after being found fit for work, DWP figures show
Campaigners demand welfare overhaul after statistics reveal 2,380 people died between 2011 and 2014 shortly after being declared able to work
Guardian – Thursday 27 August 2015 12.43 BST
More than 80 people a month are dying shortly after being declared “fit for work” according to new data, prompting campaigners to call for an overhaul of the government’s controversial welfare regime.
Statistics released by the Department for Work and Pensions on Thursday show that 2,380 people died between December 2011 and February 2014 shortly after a work capability assessment (WCA) found they were able to work.
The administration of the WCA by officials has been widely criticised as crude and inaccurate by campaigners. There have been hundreds of thousands of appeals of fit-for-work decisions over the last few years, about four in 10 of which have succeeded.
But there was widespread acceptance that the data should be treated with caution. Because the cause of death was not recorded, it is impossible to show whether a death was linked to an incorrect assessment.
The data, compiled in response to freedom of information requests, also revealed that between December 2011 and February 2014, 50,580 recipients of employment and support allowance benefit (ESA) had died within 14 days of their claim ending.
Read More:
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/27/thousands-died-after-fit-for-work-assessment-dwp-figures
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/aug/27/thousands-died-after-fit-for-work-assessment-dwp-figures#img-1
The DWP defended the accuracy of the WCA. It said: “Any causal effect between benefits and mortality cannot be assumed from these statistics. Additionally, these isolated figures provide limited scope for analysis and nothing can be gained from this publication that would allow the reader to form any judgment as to the effects or impacts of the work capability assessment.”
It added: “DWP does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the WCA decision and the number of people who died within a year of that decision should be assumed from these figures.”
quote – “DWP does not hold information on the reason for death, therefore no causal effect between the WCA decision and the number of people who died within a year of that decision should be assumed from these figures.”
That is the biggest ever load of fabricated bullshit I have ever heard from a bunch of morons in power since I was told that being on the work programme would massively improve my chances of getting back into work. MY CV tells a completely different story, what’s left of it after being ruined by so-called CV writing experts at Seetec.
The DWP has all the information stored about who died through use of sanction against them. They just know that lying their arses off it will take the heat off them what with sanctiongate (those also fabricated sanction success stories). The DWP are hiding the truth as instructed by the biggest fucking wankhead ever to be in government – IDS.
Fucking wankstain zombie who like preens around on a fabricated CV himself, encourages his army of DWP slaves to pump out every cock and bull story regarding ”how a sanction improved my CV and chances of employment and made me really happy about myself’
IDS – ”I have a fake, bullshitting CV with nothing real in it about my life and work history”
DWP – ”We have used fake storied about the benefits of sanctions”
DWP – ”Yes. It is true that we kill people by assisting their suicide by way of removing their payments”
The 28th of August Mark’s the Anniversary of the Slavery Abolition Act 1833 AD Receiving the Royal Assent .
This Abolished Slavery in the British Empire excepting the Islands of Ceylon and Saint Helena as well as East India Company Territories but these Exceptions were Abolished by 1843 AD.
Slavery Needs to be Opposed in the United Kingdom Today.
It talks about ” Nothing can be gained from this publication that would Allow the Reader to Form any Judgement as to the Effects or Impacts of the
Work Capability Assessment ”
I Thought that Statistics giving Information would Enable a Judgement
to be Made
1 Death Resulting from People being Victimised is too High
Stephen House the Chief Thug of Police State Scotland has been forced out the door after appalling failings in his utterly useless abomination of an organisation. Similarly IDS’s position as Chief Executioner at the DWP is untenable. The buck does stop at the top – IDS should do the decent thing…
… and put a bullet in his head to stop the misery (in his watch of chief twat of the DWP) of illegal sanctions, bedroom tax, fucked-up work programme, fucked-up benefit reforms, and for simply breathing valuable oxygen he is not worthy of.
“Lord Moat: David Cameron gives expense shame ex-MP Douglas Hogg a peerage”
“Bills cited by Hogg included:
£2,000 moat cleaning
£18,000 for a gardener
£40 piano tuning
£200 annual Aga cooker maintenance
£4,500 for ‘machines and fuel’
£1,000 for lawn mowing
£700 fees for a ‘mole man’
The costs of running his housekeeper’s car
Thousands in repairs, including for his stables
£93 for tongs
Insurance costs
He was knocked back by the House of Lords Appointment Commission when Cameron nominated him 2011 … what’s changed?”
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/08/lord-moat-david-cameron-gives-expense-shame-ex-mp-douglas-hogg-a-peerage/
Reminds me of “Uriah Heep”
http://www.shmoop.com/david-copperfield/uriah-heep.html
The new dis-honours list announced today –
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-34076465
Even more shameful MPs bagging a seat in the House Of Lords for doing fuck all whilst previously in The House Of Commons, along with the wide-eyed expectation of being handed ten times as much money and given a golden plated pension and free NHS health care above the very people who elected them in the first place.
Britain 2015. We are all in it together, except for the person in the street having to struggle with what day to day life throws at them. Nobody in government ever has to worry about where the next wage comes from or not be evicted or will the bills and rent be paid if not made redundant or stripped of their legal right to benefits.
That other big muppet Danny Alexander is given a Knighthood!!!!!
This country stinks to high heaven. “Oh Danny! You help us Tories get our dirty work, demonizing and scapegoating the poor unemployed and sick, completed and we’ll see you alright when you get voted out of office!”
The whole system is corrupt and rotten to the core.
And, no doubt IDS, (if he is not dead by then!) after his jail sentence, he will be welcomed back by his fellow MP partners in crime and immediately be given a Knighthood and put into the House of Lords as Lord Iain Duncan Smith of Kensington (or something equally as stupid), to live a life of further total idleness and scrounging from the ‘hard-working taxpayer’ of Britain that he so much professes to try to protect. Unmitigated and total bollocks.
“THE DWP WOULD LIKE YOU TO BELIEVE THAT GOVERNMENT WELFARE CHANGES HAVE HAD NO ADVERSE EFFECTS ON HEALTH”
THESE PEOPLE WOULD ARGUE;
Terry McGarvey, 48. Dangerously ill from polycytheamia, Terry asked for an ambulance to be called during his Work Capability Assessment. He knew that he wasn’t well enough to attend his WCA but feared that his benefits would be stopped if he did not. He died the following day.
Elaine Lowe, 53. Suffering from COPD and fearful of losing her benefits. In desperation, Elaine chose to commit suicide.
Mark Wood, 44. Found fit for work by Atos, against his Doctors advice and assertions that he had complex mental health problems. Starved to death after benefits stopped, weighing only 5st 8lb when he died.
Paul Reekie, 48, the Leith based Poet and Author. Suffered from severe depression. Committed suicide after DWP stopped his benefits due to an Atos ‘fit for work’ decision.
Leanne Chambers, 30. Suffered depression for many years which took a turn for the worst when she was called in for a WCA. Leanne committed suicide soon after.
Karen Sherlock, 44. Multiple health issues. Found fit for work by Atos and denied benefits. Fought a long battle to get placed into the support group of ESA. Karen died the following month of a heart attack.
Carl Payne, 42. Fears of losing his lifeline benefits due to welfare reform led this Father of two to take his own life.
Tim Salter, 53. Blind and suffering from Agoraphobia. Tim hanged himself after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.
Edward Jacques, 47 years old and suffering from HIV and Hepatitis C. Edward had a history of severe depression and self-harm. He took a fatal overdose after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.
Linda Wootton, 49 years old. A double heart and lung transplant patient. Died just nine days after the government found her fit for work, their refusal letter arriving as she lay desperately ill in her hospital bed.
Steven Cawthra, 55. His benefits stopped by the DWP and with rising debts, he saw suicide as the only way out of a desperate situation.
Elenore Tatton, 39 years old. Died just weeks after the government found her fit for work.
John Walker, 57, saddled with debt because of the bedroom tax, John took his own life.
Brian McArdle, 57 years old. Suffered a fatal heart attack the day after his disability benefits were stopped.
Stephen Hill, 53. Died of a heart attack one month after being found fit for work, even though he was waiting for major heart surgery.
Jacqueline Harris, 53. A former Nurse who could hardly walk was found fit for work by Atos and her benefits withdrawn. in desperation, she took her own life.
David Barr, 28. Suffering from severe mental difficulties. Threw himself from a bridge after being found fit for work by Atos and failing his appeal.
David Groves, 56. Died of a heart attack the night before taking his work capability assessment. His widow claimed that it was the stress that killed him.
Nicholas Peter Barker, 51. Shot himself after being told his benefits were being stopped. He was unable to work after a brain haemorrhage left him paralysed down one side.
Mark and Helen Mullins, 48 and 59 years old. Forced to live on £57.50 a week and make 12 mile trips each week to get free vegetables to make soup. Mark and Helen both committed suicide.
Richard Sanderson, 44. Unable to find a job and with his housing benefit cut forcing him to move, but with nowhere to go. Richard committed suicide.
Martin Rust, 36 years old. A schizophrenic man who killed himself two months after the government found him fit to work.
Craig Monk, 43. A vulnerable gentleman and a partial amputee who slipped so far into poverty that he hanged himself.
Colin Traynor, 29, and suffering from epilepsy was stripped of his benefits. He appealed. Five weeks after his death his family found he had won his appeal.
Elaine Christian, 57 years old. Worried about her work capability assessment, she was subsequently found at Holderness drain, drowned and with ten self inflicted wrist wounds.
Christelle and Kayjah Pardoe, 32 years and 5 month old. Pregnant, her benefits stopped, Christelle, clutching her baby son jumped from a third floor balcony.
Mark Scott, 46. His DLA and housing benefit stopped and sinking into deep depression, Mark died six weeks later.
Cecilia Burns, 51. Found fit for work while undergoing treatment for breast cancer. She died just a few weeks after she won her appeal against the Atos decision.
Chris Cann, 57 years old. Found dead in his home just months after being told he had to undergo a medical assessment to prove he could not work.
Peter Hodgson, 49. Called to JCP to see if he was suitable for volunteer work. Peter had suffered a stroke, a brain haemorrhage and had a fused leg. His appointment letter arrived a few days after he took his own life.
Paul Willcoxsin, 33 years old. Suffered with mental health problems and worried about government cuts. Paul committed suicide by hanging himself.
Stephanie Bottrill, 53. After paying £80 a month for bedroom tax, Stephanie could not afford heating in the winter, and lived on tinned custard. In desperation, she chose to walk in front of a lorry.
Larry Newman suffered from a degenerative lung condition, his weight dropping from 10 to 7 stone. Atos awarded him zero points, he died just three months after submitting his appeal.
Paul Turner, 52 years old. After suffering a heart attack, he was ordered to find a job in February. In April Paul died from ischaemic heart disease.
Christopher Charles Harkness, 39. After finding out that the funding for his care home was being withdrawn, this man who suffered with mental health issues, took his own life.
Sandra Louise Moon, 57. Suffering from a degenerative back condition, depression and increasingly worried about losing her incapacity benefit. Sandra committed suicide by taking an overdose.
Lee Robinson, 39 years old. Took his own life after his housing benefit and council tax were taken away from him.
David Coupe, 57. A Cancer sufferer found fit for work by Atos in 2012. David lost his sight, then his hearing, then his mobility, and then his life.
Michael McNicholas, 34. Severely depressed and a recovering alcoholic. Michael committed suicide after being called in for a Work Capability Assessment by Atos.
Victor Cuff, 59 and suffering from severe depression. Victor hanged himself after the DWP stopped his benefits.
Charles Barden, 74. Charles committed suicide by hanging due to fears that the Bedroom Tax would leave him destitute and unable to cope.
Ian Caress, 43. Suffered multiple health issues and deteriorating eyesight. Ian was found fit for work by Atos, he died ten months later having lost so much weight that his family said that he resembled a concentration camp victim.
Iain Hodge, 30. Suffered from the life threatening illness, Hughes Syndrome. Found fit for work by Atos and benefits stopped, Iain took his own life.
Wayne Grew, 37. Severely depressed due to government cuts and the fear of losing his job, Wayne committed suicide by hanging.
Kevin Bennett, 40. Kevin a sufferer of schizophrenia and mental illness became so depressed after his JSA was stopped that he became a virtual recluse. Kevin was found dead in his flat several months later.
David Elwyn Hughs Harries, 48. A disabled man who could no longer cope after his parents died, could find no help from the government via benefits. David took an overdose as a way out of his solitude.
Denis Jones, 58. A disabled man crushed by the pressures of government cuts, in particular the Bedroom Tax, and unable to survive by himself. Denis was found dead in his flat.
Shaun Pilkington, 58. Unable to cope any more, Shaun shot himself dead after receiving a letter from the DWP informing him that his ESA was being stopped.
Paul ?, 51. Died in a freezing cold flat after his ESA was stopped. Paul appealed the decision and won on the day that he lost his battle to live.
Chris MaGuire, 61. Deeply depressed and incapable of work, Chris was summonsed by Atos for a Work Capability Assessment and deemed fit for work. On appeal, a judge overturned the Atos decision and ordered them to leave him alone for at least a year, which they did not do. In desperation, Chris took his own life, unable to cope anymore.
Peter Duut, a Dutch national with terminal cancer living in the UK for many years found that he was not entitled to benefits unless he was active in the labour market. Peter died leaving his wife destitute, and unable to pay for his funeral.
George Scollen, age unknown. Took his own life after the government closed the Remploy factory he had worked in for 40 years.
Julian Little, 47. Wheelchair bound and suffering from kidney failure, Julian faced the harsh restrictions of the Bedroom Tax and the loss of his essential dialysis room. He died shortly after being ordered to downgrade.
Miss DE, Early 50’s. Suffering from mental illness, this lady committed suicide less than a month after an Atos assessor gave her zero points and declared her fit for work.
Robert Barlow, 47. Suffering from a brain tumour, a heart defect and awaiting a transplant, Robert was deemed fit for work by Atos and his benefits were withdrawn. He died penniless less than two years later.
Carl Joseph Foster-Brown, 58. As a direct consequence of the wholly unjustifiable actions of the Job centre and DWP, this man took his own life.
Martin Hadfield, 20 years old. Disillusioned with the lack of jobs available in this country but too proud to claim benefits. Utterly demoralised, Martin took his own life by hanging himself.
Annette Francis, 30. A mum-of-one suffering from severe mental illness, found dead after her disability benefits were ceased.
Ian Jordan, 60. His benefits slashed after Atos and the DWP declared Ian, a sufferer of Barratt’s Oesophagus, fit for work, caused him to run up massive debts in order to survive. Ian was found dead in his flat after taking an overdose.
Janet McCall, 53. Terminally ill with pulmonary fibrosis and declared ‘Fit for Work’ by Atos and the DWP, this lady died 5 months after her benefits were stopped.
Stuart Holley, 23. A man driven to suicide by the DWP’s incessant pressure and threat of sanctions for not being able to find a job.
Graham Shawcross, 63. A sufferer of the debilitating disease, Addison’s. Died of a heart attack due to the stress of an Atos ‘Fit for Work’ decision.
David Clapson, 59 years old. A diabetic ex-soldier deprived of the means to survive by the DWP and the governments harsh welfare reforms, David died all but penniless, starving and alone, his electricity run out.
Chris Smith, 59. Declared ‘Fit for Work’ by Atos as he lay dying of Cancer in his hospital bed.
Nathan Hartwell, 36, died of heart failure after an 18-month battle with the Department for Works and Pensions.
Michael Connolly, 60. A Father of One, increasingly worried about finances after his benefits were cut. Committed suicide by taking 13 times the fatal dose of prescription medicine on the 30th October – His Birthday.
Jan Mandeville, 52, A lady suffering from Fibromyalgia, driven to the point of mental and physical breakdown by this governments welfare reforms. Jan was found dead in her home after battling the DWP for ESA and DLA.
Trevor Drakard, 50 years old. A shy and reserved, severe epileptic who suffered regular and terrifying fits almost his entire life, hounded to suicide by the DWP who threatened to stop his life-line benefits.
Death of a severely disabled Dorset resident, unnamed, who took her own life while battling the bedroom tax.
“I don’t need statistics to try and cover up the deaths of these tragic victims”
The links speak for themselves. The people in this list have no longer a voice, but we have………………………
“This is IAIN DUNCAN SMITH’S RESIGNATION LETTER”
………it does not say it directly, but it means the same thing.
“SNP CALLS ON GOVERNMENT TO HALT SANCTIONS”
The Government must immediately stop all benefit sanctions until the system can be properly reformed, the Scottish National Party has said.
SNP welfare spokesperson Eilidh Whiteford made the call in response to reports that DWP staff were being put under pressure to hit targets for the number of people whose benefits are stopped.
“All sanctions need to be halted immediately until a fundamental root and branch independent review of the DWP’s sanctions and conditionality can be carried out,” she said in a statement.
“There is clearly a culture of pressure within the DWP which forces staff to refer people for sanctions for fear of retribution against themselves.
“Staff should instead be encouraged to make well-thought through decisions in the first place which would allow more people to move through the system and there would be less people desperately waiting to find out if they will have enough to make ends meet.”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snp-calls-for-immediate-halt-to-all-benefit-sanctions-10473256.html
Judge Mark Rowland turns to his secretary and asks, “Is that a new housing development over there?”
“No, just another cemetery”, came the reply.
sarah – The snp should have said that all benefit sanctions should be stopped, end of, not just “until the system can be properly reformed”.
“There is clearly a culture of pressure within the DWP which forces staff to refer people for sanctions for fear of retribution against themselves.
STOP turning the JCP work coaches into the victims of the sanction regime for it is an insult to claimants and a big fat propaganda lie – the same false solidarity that destroyed the labour party in scotland.
Tens of thousands of sanctioned claimants could testify against the lie that work coaches were in anyway reluctant to sanction.
Just because JCP work roaches have a bit of pressure put on them to respond to the master requests to sanction, does not make them a victims!!!
pri
yep they love it…the WCA/EandSA should also be scrapped….and also sanctions @ this low level of incomes…a max sanction of last resort of £30/wk off £140/wk would be acceptable i’m sure to many….
a max sanction of last resort of £30/wk off £140/wk would be acceptable
No it would not be acceptable there must be no conditionality the claim should only be based on need.
Conditionality not only exposes the claimant to the risk of sanction but to slavery.
Conditionality is the problem.
but i mostly always cite sanctions and conditionaliy in my posts so i now consider this as being implicit…
ps a max sanction of last resort of £30/wk off £140/wk would be acceptable ….>>>>i’m sure to many<<<<….a claim is always based on need, and the eu state that benefits in the uk are manifestly inadequate…
Click to access UKXX2_en.pdf
It really wouldn’t be, Obd, & i don’t know why you’re suggesting we should compromise by accepting lesser sanctions ~ the same set-ups as now will stay in place unless it is stopped absolutely.
The amount being paid is so inadequate – £10/day? It doesn’t last the fortnight. Everything owned will perish over months/years & no essentials other than food/some bills can really be bought – so to cut that is barbaric. Why are you suggesting anything else – we don’t need to do this?
s n
left with £110/wk, a min of £15.70/day is better than £70odd/wk being reduced to 0….there is always going to be some conditionality ie filling in the forms, going to jcp to sign on…but that should be it ie no WP etc….
But unemployed people now being punished by hugely inadequate payments, being treated as criminal – or worse – and expected to fulfil ludicrous sets of ‘proofs’/prevented from looking for work in their own time/way. deductions aren’t what people need unless we agree they need to be threatened by more than just being out of work/less well off. It might be a least worst option for some people – they should be left alone & so should the rest of us! we do not need ‘coaches’ or threats/punishment.
yeah i know why you telling me for…??
I know you know.
I would rather leave & sign on, with all that entails, rather than do their job. They should have downed pens & walked out in disgust if they were decent human beings.
The “Official” Death Statistics.
Click to access mortality-statistics-esa-ib-sda.pdf
91,740 is a shocking figure and much higher than even i thought, by a long way.
It’s clear that there needs to be full investigation into the actions of IDS and the DWP and their role in all of this.
I would say the relatives of the victims should now be pushing for criminal proceedings to be instigated against all those concerned where there is a chance that it can be proven in a court of law.
That is the stats DWP agreed to publish not the ones that DWP are appealing at tribunal 10 Nov.
Just wait till the true figures come out after the appeal is lost.
can you see the future….? let’s abolish the HoL…. http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-journey/
No overburdenddonkey! we all need a HOL!
I see Cameron is on another one!
OBD – How would abolishing the House of Lords solve the immediate and very real problem of unjust and immoral DWP policies?
el
i’ve always been very clear about my disgust @ sanctions, EandSA, the WCA there sole purpose was/is to destroy lives and/or cause great misery of proving need trial by ordeal …your response has always been what should replace them….40% of WCA decisions were overturned @ FtT and that is with the scant support that was/is generally available so ids introduced MR, extra heavy duty spanner into the mix….where were your morals then….?
OBD – I’ll take that answer to mean that you don’t know, or that it wouldn’t help…… so why did you said it would?
When you said “where were your morals then….?” are you criticising my personal morality? If so, on what basis?
el
fuck off, i was talking to raining and saying don’t hold your breath….and i repeat my post to you….
el
i’ve always been very clear about my disgust @ sanctions, EandSA, the WCA there sole purpose was/is to destroy lives and/or cause great misery of proving need trial by ordeal …your response has always been what should replace them….40% of WCA decisions were overturned @ FtT and that is with the scant support that was/is generally available so ids introduced MR, extra heavy duty spanner into the mix….where were your morals then….?
obd – I think elbow grease is you-know-who, but he’s keeping his head down and the insults toned down comment-wise meantime to avoid being banned by Johnny (and rightly so) – AGAIN.
PS I don’t for a second believe that he cleans houses for a living as he claims..
f
aye, ken….
obd – he’s a bit like someone who thinks they are wearing a cloak which makes them invisible – that’s how deluded he is!
Who’s ‘you know who’? I’m intrigued.
raining
that who cannot be named… 🙂
Fellow – Errrrmmmmm… who’s deluded? In case you hadn’t noticed, we’re all invisible on here.
We should all just ignore ‘elbow grease’ as the person behind is a just a stupid twat with nothing of value to say in defence of us and has never had to be humilated and dragged down by petty work roaches all ordered by IDS to make our lives a living hell for the crime of being ill or un-employed through no fault of our own.
‘Elbow grease’ should just shut the fuck up and stop being a sad old twat whom has absolutely no comprehension of real life and anything that it throws at us.
If you want to have a discussion about morals, then at least have the guts to speak plainly……
OBD – You asked me where my morals are, then refuse to explain what you mean. Pathetic!
Nice time to release stats and info, when the boss is away.
Raining – we can’t say the various names he used in the past because johnny will moderate OUR comments if we do, but he’s someone who comes on this blog and others like it just to insult and bait other commenters – he targeted obd firstly, then me, then donna. He called obd donkey-sh*t-for-brains, me fat-arsed scrounging c*nt scum, and donna f***ing stupid in recent posts, and that’s just the insults and verbal abuse I care to remember… I believe he does actually work part-time as a scientist with molecular biology as his speciality which was what he initially claimed to do, which was why I made a comment several posts back about him being wasted as a cleaner, but he is incredibly dense in many other respects. I particularly suspected he was the same person when he congratulated poor maria on not receiving any of the state benefits which she was due, instead of commisserating with her, and he said “good for you, not relying on the state, like some on here, which was an obvious reference to me.
… ‘borrows’ expressions (oh, the bitter irony :-)) and randomly re-use them?
Fellow. You’re right about some of the things I said, but mostly you’re wrong. I think you are confusing posts from more than person. But then that doesn’t matter. On an anonymous forum what matters is the principle and morality of what is said, not who said it.
You’re last quote was spot-on. It WAS a reference to you, because you said you would say anything, true or false, in order to continue claiming benefits while you wait for your god to tell you his plan. Do you still stand by that?
elbow grease – I’ll temporarily suspend my self-imposed ban on replying to you just long enough to correct your misquote on what I wrote in a previous post, and also since you are not swearing and insulting me at the moment. I am quite sure that I have NOT mixed up comments from more than one person and wrongly attributed them to you, and this is very evident from your most recent comments, but then you’re not quite clever enough to work that out.
I said previously, and I may be paraphrasing slightly since I can’t be bothered to check several posts back, “I tell them whatever I have to tell them in order to continue to receive benefits.” You are correct in adding the true or false clarification, although why you would have to add that is beyond me, since it is self-evident.
At no point did I say that I am WAITING for God to tell me His plan for me. If you had read my previous comment properly ie intelligently, you would have realised that I already KNOW God’s plan for me, ie he has already conveyed that information to me, since I also said that that plan will come to fruition in a short time ie months not years, or as I believe I put it “in the not too distant future”, and that the Jobcentreminus workers would learn of it then.
PS As I understand it from Maria’s own account of her situation, Maria gave up trying to claim benefits in despair at all the horrendous obstacles put in her way re hours of caring for her parents etc, she didn’t decide not to claim them as a matter of principle, which was why commisseration and not commendation was appropriate.
I am not going to enter into any communication with you about any other matter.
Fellow – Lies are lies, irrespective of whether you have a delusion that god told you to tell them.
P.S. – Fellow …To get back to the real issue. Do you have any rational suggestions to address the real problem of unjust and immoral DWP policies which are causing unnecessary misery and even death? OBD clearly hasn’t got a clue. He thinks abolishing the House of Lords will solve it! How about you?
P.P.S. Fellow – If somebody like ‘Maria’ decides not to claim benefits because she and her family can manage OK without them, isn’t that a good thing because it leaves more for the people who are desperate?
Although altruism isn’t mentioned in your bible, don’t you think it’s a nice idea? Perhaps you should think about it……
“IDS special adviser gets peerage … on day DWP admits thousands died after ‘fit to work’ assessments”
http://politicalscrapbook.net/2015/08/ids-special-adviser-gets-peerage-on-day-dwp-admits-thousands-died-after-fit-to-work-assessments/
annos
lets believe a red tory, not likely, once bitten 2 X shy pull the other one etc….
‘keir hardie and nye bevan must be burrilin’ in their grave’s’ says dennis canavan….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAd_f6Pdm3o
Well, fuck me! The DWP as expected have, for all intents done a ‘Tony Bliar’ and have picked up the fantastic skill of spin statistics. Of course, we all suspected it I think. However, that does not cover the fact that all of these poor people have committed suicide or died, either partly or fully caused by the stress of a cruel and savage State condoned system (so very reminiscent of Nazi Germany pre and during WWII). By ‘fairly’ cleverly side-stepping the ‘real’ numbers and issues involved – they think that for now at least, they have got off free of ‘charge’.
Well DWP and your horrific psychopath of a boss in the form of Iain Duncan Smith most definitely have not. You may run and you may hide, but both of your clocks are now ticking relentlessly away and before they reach the magic ‘zero’ time – you will, I am sure, pay the price required for your crimes.
The ‘next’ Appeal in November, by then, may be too late for you both.
As usual (I have not seen Sky News yet!) but the 6 PM BBC News did not mention the ‘figures’ that have been released today, not even once. They did, however, make sure they did not the absolutely scandalous giving of ‘Peerages’ by the spiv Dave to so many of his ex ‘Conservative’ MP’s & Ministers. He included Douglas Hogg, an ex-Minister who was convicted of ‘fiddling his expenses’ (where have I heard that term before?). He, like many previous ‘criminal’ MP’s (and ALL of the rest of today’s announced bastards) will be welcomed into this totally unelected house of very sleepy, often drunken, sleazy, rich and corrupt old farts who can sit on their fat arses whilst further (without express permission!) relieving the ‘hard-working British taxpayer’ of even more of their money.
One real surprise for me was that old river slime Chris Huhne (of driving point conviction fame) was not also put in there.
Even the toilet bowl scum in the form of the Liberal Democrats were awarded for their treachury to the British Electorate. Red Labour had a few successes as well. Also, surprise, surprise, a few ex-Councillors had their ‘expensive/expense paid’ work (HaHa!!) for their local County community well rewarded.
Once they get into the HoL they will be cosseted for the rest of their lives, at the taxpayer’s expense. Not for them having to worry about where the next penny is coming from, no signing-on for them or ‘sanctions’ to worry anything about.
What a stinking sham of a ‘democracy’. A Neo-Nazi Government and an increasingly cruel State (with a State sanctioned murderer at the very top of one of the most important Departments – the DWP).
ALL of them seem to be able to do exactly what they want, when they like with no-one to answer to – not least, the British electorate who did not even vote them in in the first place due to apathy and a broken corrupt FPTP electoral system. What an absolute load of horseshit.
Whoops – correction: The BBC definitely did NOT miss the ‘Peers’ story!
Also in my last night’s IDS post : He’s also hit the young and he promises to hit them even harder in the future. If any justice prevails at all, this mass murderer should get his ‘hit’ before too long, – hopefully a prosecution, swiftly followed by a long jail sentence! HaHa!
So, fiddling your expenses gets you a peerage while claiming money you need to live gets you persecuted to death by the very department that is supposed to help you.
Smith has been caught out in an absolute lie to parliament over the existence of these figures, that alone is enough to demand his resignation. Although as he has caused suffering to citizens of Britain on a scale that ISIS could only dream of perhaps it’s time for something a little more drastic. About 500 years ago the rich lived in terror of being poisoned (although, with food hygeine standards of the time it must have been hard to tell) so they made boiling alive the punishment for this “offence” but they came up with an unbelievably barbaric variant. Instead of simply immersing the offender in boiling liquid where he died quickly he was pulled out in agony and lowered in again and again taking a very long time to die. It was such a horrible means of execution that only two people deaths are recorded before it was abolished. It should be reinstated as a just punishment for Iain Duncan Smith
Michelle Mone gets a peerage?????? LOL! What a friggin’ laughing stock the House of Lords House of Commons and the whole Westminster circus is.
Tuesday 11 August 2015
Michelle Mone: Ultimo lingerie founder made Cameron’s entrepreneurship tsar
David Cameron has appointed the founder of the lingerie brand Ultimo as the government’s new entrepreneurship tsar for areas of high unemployment.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/aug/11/ultimo-lingerie-michelle-mone-david-camerons-entrepreneurship-tsar
Guaranteed to fail, and cost a fortune.
“There’s no one I can think of that’s better qualified to help young entrepreneurs from deprived backgrounds to turn a good idea into a flourishing business,” said Iain Duncan Smith, the work and pensions secretary, announcing the appointment.
Well he should know about entrepreneurship and hard work.
Yet, after leaving school without qualifications as a 15-year-old, Mone
I thought the “key to success” was supposed to be education, education, education.
“I do believe it’s a confidence thing,” she told the Victoria Derbyshire show
‘ere we go, I believe!
“But it was hard when I was starting up as well, 20 years ago,” Mone replied. “Four times I put my house to the bank, so I know what the issues are.”
She thinks that young people from deprived backgrounds own their own homes ?
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/aug/16/michelle-mone-startup-tsar-ultimo-profile
Mone returned to employment, gaining a marketing job with brewer Labatt under false pretences having entered fictional qualifications on her CV.
😯
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_Mone
LOL! AFM: Sometimes i think we’re actually all in some nightmare and we’re actually sleeping and when we wake up we’ll realize it was all just a bad dream! I mean Mone a peer?!?! Hahahahaha! LMAO!
Raining – maybe she supplied the bra supporting the breasts that Lord S snorted his cocaine from! It’s a bit more believeable than her claim to have supplied the bra worn by Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman!
And (probably the second most hated man in Britain) that old and totally unscrupulous Rupert Murdoch should also be put into the dock for his ‘tabloid organisation’s’ shameful and ongoing lying for years and years.
If it wasn’t for him and his News and tabloid rogues – there may have been some justice at least done by now (and we might just have not received another Tory shambles of an old (rent) boy and old-girl ass-licking perverted and sleazy Government). It’s bloody disgraceful in a so-called ‘democracy’.
Having just watched Sky News at 10 PM, they obviously do not give a flying fuck about the poor victims of IDS & his DWP either. Not a single word.
They did, however and unsurprisingly definitely cover the ‘new Peers’ story – we just might as well be in North Korea as long as the news media are concerned. Once again – totally shameful and unforgivable.
(It may, or may not be covered in the Paper Review shortly).
Small headline on one of the papers in the background – but not a word about it from the presenter or the 2 ‘reviewers’ – is this a surprise? or is this a surprise? There was a ‘technical fault’ (with a break in transmission and a blank silent screen) close to the end of the programme though.
I wonder if our media is ‘fixed’ in any way??????
As i pointed out on here sometime agao, all of our media (newspapers, magazines, and every radio and TV channel is tightly controlled and monitored by government. If anything slips through the net, pissy pants David Camoron wets himself and orders a retraction statement and ‘correction’ of the news or facts to satisfy his want and need to control us all by using North Korean scare tactics.
Fuck the telly and newspapers, the real truth is only on the internet and is un-censored. For instance, the recent place tragedy that took place in Shoreham, Kent. On Youtube, not one second of the video showing the plane crash has been cut or docked in any way as has otherwise been heavily edited on BBC or SKY News to remove the moment of impact.
The moment of the plane crash, BBC and SKY will fade or cut away the picture to a soundbite interview from a witness on the ground or some reporter in the news studio wanting to analize what went wrong. Even the audio sound is cut or muffled along with the heavily edited youtube video shown on the telly news.
Anybody on here still think all media in the UK is free from state interference and close monitoring by the creepy bastards in government? Thnk again. It is worse than North Korea, and yet all those slimy wankers in power keep banging on about this is a free country with absolute freedom of speech and all media can do and say as they will without being investigated and heavily fined for ‘distressing’ the public un-intentionally.
Youtube has the full, un-edited raw footage of the recent Shoreham plane crash, unlike what we see as a sanitized version shared across all media platforms.
Fen – Yes, you are right there – the internet is, as you say the only place that you will find the real truth.
The Newspapers are going to be full of further lying shit now as Rebekah Brookes (Cameron’s bosom friend!) is on her way back to News Corporation (in a senior position). I bet the old bugger Rupert Murdoch is well over the moon – he’s got his ‘little girl with the big tits’ back once again!!
Camoron, along with that other dirty paedo bastard Murdoch have both been time sharing Rebekah Brooks as their shag partner. They are all in it together.
Sky’s ‘live’ transmission is probably on a ‘delay’ and getd re-directed through a series of vetting ‘offices’ i.e. Murdoch, Downing Street for ‘approval’ before it is sent to a ‘playout’ centre where it enters the transmission network. What you describe doesn’t really happen in modern broadcast systems; we are not living in the 1940s.
Thousands have died after being found fit for work, DWP figures show…………Scumbag Ian Duncan Smith will be delighted with the results of his governments ruthless campaign against the disabled. Welcome to Neo Nazi Britain.
“NO LINK TO DEATHS, JUST 2380 COINCIDENCES”
Nearly 90 people a month are dying shortly after being declared fit for work, according to new data that has prompted campaigners and Labour leadership contenders to call for an overhaul of the government’s welfare regime. Statistics released by the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) on Thursday revealed that 2,380 people died between December 2011 and February 2014 within 14 days of a work capability assessment (WCA) concluding that they were able to work.
Ministers insisted that the data could not be used to link claimant deaths to its welfare reforms, but the figures focused attention on the government’s fit-for-work assessment process, which has been dogged by controversy in recent years.
Anita Bellows, researcher with campaign group Disabled People Against the Cuts, said it would take time to fully analyse the figures, but added the group was “very worried by the number of people who died within two weeks of being found fit for work”.
The mortality data was compiled in response to freedom of information requests, and was released by the department only following a ruling by the Information Commissioner’s Office in April.
……………A SPOKESPERSON FOR THE DWP SAID;
“WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH SO MUST CARNAGE”
“JUDGE MARK ROWLAND FLIPS EM AND WE JUST KILL EM”
……….typical dwp misprint. it should have said. “We are all privileged”
“DIGNITAS DIRECTOR IN TALKS WITH JUDGE MARK ROWLAND”
Appeal court judge aims to speed up the suffering by offering shower painting placements as part of his alliance to the DWP advanced eugenics programme………..
To complete the fairy-tale of the girl who left the mean streets of Glasgow and made a fortune after dreaming up the perfect bra, she is all set to be awarded a peerage.
…Lady Mone. What a distinguished ring that has. But scatch the surface and cracks appear in the facade.
That Tower Bridge apartment, for example. It has been written that Ms Mone bought the flat — which would have cost many millions — after selling her £2 million Mayfair apartment.
In fact, Ms Mone does not own it: it is a serviced apartment taken out on a short-term rental. What’s more, her Mayfair flat was rented, too.
Ms Mone says she has never publicly discussed which homes she owns — but equally she hasn’t bothered to correct the reports.
It all feeds the illusion of a powerful businesswoman at her peak.
…..Then we come to the matter of Ms Mone’s wealth, which, given her recent appointment, is an important consideration.
By her own account, she is a phenomenally successful businesswoman. The blurb for her autobiography, My Fight To The Top, says Michelle is ‘one of the most successful businesswomen of her generation’ and ‘an inspiration for entrepreneurs the world over’.
….Yesterday, the respected Herald newspaper in Scotland published a leader, explaining why it had chosen to draw attention to questions over Ms Mone’s business record.
For despite all Ms Mone’s energy, Ultimo has been in serious trouble since 2011. In the 18 months up to October 2012, the company lost nearly £550,000.
In the subsequent three months, it made ‘significant losses’ (these are the words used on the accounts report, which do not show the precise figures) and there were further ‘significant losses’ in the remaining 11 months of 2013, with the directors predicting further losses for 2014.
In 2009, the firm’s directors owed the company a large amount of money. At the end of the year, they owed £680,000. Two years later, they owed £862,993.
These accounts are hardly those of a thriving business, and they raise worrying questions about whether Ms Mone is best qualified to tutor the disadvantaged on how to set up successful businesses.
….The fabulous penthouse flat was rented, not owned.
….All this does make you wonder whether 10 Downing Street bothered to do any homework on the subject of Ms Mone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3198793/A-dubious-role-model-Mail-investigation-reveals-deeply-disturbing-questions-bra-tycoon-set-receive-peerage-week-business-tsar-Mr-Cameron.html
….looks like a place in the house of lords will fit her like a padded bra on a flat-chested woman…
Perhaps alledgedly Cameron is shagging her on the (her) side!!
paultheswineherd – yeah, I can just imagine the pillow talk one night/day afterwards… “I can make you into a lady you know…”
Mind you, there are already rumours that he phoned her personally to tell of her the peerage – maybe it’s not that far from the truth…
“EACH ONE OF THESE CROSSES REPRESENTS A HUMAN BEING WHO DIED AFTER BEING FOUND FIT BY THE DWP’S NETWORK OF PUPPET KILLERS”
!THE GOVERNMENT KILLED MORE THAN THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF CROSSES SHOWN BELOW”
……………..THANKS TO ATOS, SEETEC, CAPITA AND MAXIMUS AND THE BENT JUDICIARY AND RETIRED DOCTORS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE AT APPEAL LEVEL.
SPECIAL THANKS TO JUDGE MARK ROWLAND, A KEY PLAYER IN ALL OF THIS, AND DEFINITELY NOT INDEPENDENT…………..
THIS IS NO MISTAKE, THIS IS GENOCIDE………………
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THE CROSSES ABOVE REPRESENT JUST ONE THIRD OF THOSE THAT DIED UNDER THIS TWISTED TORY REGIME AGAINST THE MOST VULNERABLE…………….
Welcome back GEOFF 🙂 We were just about to send out a search party 😀
I second that – Great to see you back Geoff, and in fighting form! 😀 😀 😀
Just one death should have prompted an official Inquiry, but all these?
SMITH SHOULD BE DRAGGED FROM HIS HOME, BEATEN AND HUNG FROM THE NEAREST POSSIBLE SOURCE, AS SHOULD ALL THE OTHER COLLABORATORS………
http://dpac.uk.net/2012/11/esa-appeals-increase-by-40-what-the-newspapers-wont-print/ ‘ESA appeals are up by 40% and 425,000 are awaiting ‘assessments’. This coupled with the news that 76% of people going through this horrendus ‘assessment’ are entitled to ESA after appeal figures are computed shows yet again , that the system must be scrapped-its a black hole for tax payers money and something much, much worse for disabled people going through this system….’
no it’s eandsa coupled to the WCA, then as over 60% of people were winning appeals with scant support…then they introduced the heavy duty spanner of MR which has caused appeals to fall, this is what has given them the power to crush peoples lives….
https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2013/01/30/735/
ps it’s the panic it all causes as one is put on trial for the ‘crime’ of being sick and disabled….
OBD – I’m just wondering, do you ever have a desire to make things better, and sometimes think about how to do so?
To modify a famous epithet – “Don’t complain, organise!”
one can only make things better when the root cause of symptoms are known, as a scientist you claim to be, i’m very surprised that you don’t know nor understand this concept….
http://www.brusselsblog.co.uk/people-we-should-listen-to-bob-johnson/
So what, in your (or Dr. Bob’s) opinion, is the root cause of the current appalling policies of the DWP?
Put IDS on to Bob obd.
step
i wish i could but they’re so deep, entrenched in their denial that they have turned denial into a lifestyle….imo it’s best that we know how to counter and resist their abuse….
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“KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK ROWLAND”
Well done MIKE SIVIER for bringing these figures to life. You have campaigned tirelessly against the monster that is the DWP and it’s band of PCS assassins.
Thank you for all your hard work, my friend.
If anyone deserves a knighthood, you and johnny would be at the top of my list along with Anita Bellows who has also given up her life to bring these evil bastards to justice.
FROM MIKE SIVIER
The Department for Work and Pensions has admitted defeat in its attempt to hide the number of people who have died while claiming incapacity benefits since November 2011 – and has announced that the number who died between January that year and February 2014 is a shocking 91,740.
This represents an increase to an average of 99 deaths per day or 692 per week, between the start of December 2011 and the end of February 2014 – compared with 32 deaths per day/222 per week between January and November 2011.
The DWP has strenuously asserted that “any causal effect between benefits and mortality cannot be assumed from these statistics”.
It is correct to make this point.
The DWP has also claimed that “these isolated figures provide limited scope for analysis and nothing can be gained from this publication that would allow the reader to form any judgement as to the effects or impacts of the Work Capability Assessment”.
However, the increase in the frequency of these deaths is enough to raise questions about the way the incapacity benefit system is being run – questions that demand full, frank and immediate answers.
For example, the work-related activity group is composed entirely of people who are expected to recover from their illnesses and be well enough to return to work within a year. In that group, there should be no deaths at all – barring accidents. Why have nearly 10,000 people lost their lives after being assigned there?
Deaths in the support group and the assessment phase are more problematic because they involve people who do have serious illnesses, many of whom may be expected to die while claiming. But are these deaths being hastened artificially by the DWP’s treatment of them?
Iain Duncan Smith ‘should resign over disability benefit death figures’, says Jeremy Corbyn
Independent – 27th Aug 2015
Iain Duncan Smith should resign after the release of statistics showing thousands of people died soon after being found fit to work in disability benefit tests, the frontrunner for the Labour leadership has said.
Jeremy Corbyn called for the Work and Pensions Secretary to step down, and said the Work Capability Assessments had left some disabled people in “despair”.
“He should never have been appointed. Yes, he should resign because these figures are so frightening and so disgusting,” he told a hustings event hosted by the Daily Mirror newspaper.
“I’ve had people with mental health difficulties as well as physical difficulties who are absolutely in despair because they’ve been declared fit for work and are absolutely not.”
Read More:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/iain-duncan-smith-should-resign-over-disability-benefit-death-figures-says-jeremy-corbyn-10475017.html
That means sacking ATOS / MAXIMUS / SERCO / G4S.
step
i would like to know corbyns opinion on; sanctions, conditionality JSA PIP WCA and EandSA….or if he’s expressed an opinion on scrapping it all…
obd – Plainly you haven’t bothered to look at his voting record!
Corbyn is a rebel.
step
does that me he has voted for scrapping sanctions, conditionality JSA PIP WCA and EandSA….and he’s expressed an opinion on scrapping it all…has there even been a vote calling for it’s scrapping….
Why are you asking Stepping??? It’s a matter of public record!!! Look it up for yourself you lazy git!
Jeremy Corbyn to lead Labour revolt on welfare plans
Jeremy Corbyn will be the sole Labour leadership candidate to vote against the government’s welfare bill, after Yvette Cooper, Andy Burnham and Liz Kendall stated that they would abstain.
step
thanks corbyn is indeed calling for it to be scrapped…
http://www.jeremyforlabour.com/scrap_the_work_capability_assessment
Well done! You actually found something out for yourself! You missed the significant part, but never mind, you got the gist!
el
@ least you freely admit that you don’t post to provide info for others to consider, and would rather crush and put down others as often as possible..
Ccorbyn also wants Labour to say sorry & Blair was wrong going into Iraq.
Labour don`t like that.
Obviously! It’s because discussion is about opinions. Information is easily available to anyone who’s not too lazy to look. So do you have any opinions, or is posting old links all you can do?
el
no the discussion is about suffering, and how to stop it….i express FACT not opinion in the work of dr bob johnson and my experience of healing from being raped etc under the generic title of CSA/CA, what causes it, it’s personal and cultural affects and how to cure both the victim and our culture…
what you’re saying @ root is people only suffer cos they’re lazy….
OBD – I said “discussion” (i.e. discussion in general) not “the discussion”, but never mind.
Are you saying that you have NO opinions about ANYTHING AT ALL, or just that you don’t have any about how to reform the DWP?
1st answer my question… what you’re saying @ root is people only suffer cos they’re lazy….?
“what you’re saying @ root is people only suffer cos they’re lazy”
I didn’t say that and I didn’t imply it. Countless hard-working people around the world also suffer horribly through no fault of their own. One very recent example is those who suffocated to death in a lorry in Austria.
Now answer my question……
‘Information is easily available to anyone who’s not too lazy to look.’
OH YES YOU DID IMPLY THAT….“what you’re saying @ root is people only suffer cos they’re lazy” and you never answered the question a yes or a no, will do…?
Are you totally off your rocker? I didn’t even mention suffering!
My answer is NO, people do not “only suffer cos they’re lazy”.
However I think some lazy people do sometimes suffer some salad items they don’t like 😉
you’ve always got add an insult the reason you do is cos you’re wrong, and you’re a hypocrite not willing to be honest about what you’ve posted ie you make assumptions…now aside from that you have said ‘Information is easily available to anyone who’s not too lazy to look.’
ps the post went off incomplete; you’ve always got add an insult the reason you do is cos you’re wrong, and you’re a hypocrite not willing to be honest about what you’ve posted ie you make assumptions ie ‘hard working families’ …now aside from that you have said ‘Information is easily available to anyone who’s not too lazy to look.’ information eases suffering, even ceases suffering, many who have died were simply overwhelmed with panic attacks and anxiety, this is the prime role of info, is to end and/or ease suffering so the 2 are intrinsically (implicitly) linked….the info was available, but not to them, it was not because they were too lazy to look they simply could not understand why they were being cheated…
and/or what was going on, they had no idea what info would be helpful/available to them…and terror gripped their minds, the info that they required to be helped with, is simply not freely available, why should it even occur to them that they’re in need of info??? …they have to search it out, and they can’t cos they don’t know where to look and/or even if it out there they’re blind to it….this is why many have died….so the info is NOT easily available, and there is no reason why many people would look for it UNLESS they knew the truth about our system and therefore doubted it which is why blogs such as these are vital but then only when one has been alerted to our toxic system….fyi this is my considered OPINION based on facts…how would david clapson know to look for the info he needed or even what questions to ask or even that he could….? PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES FFS…i’ll answer your question re dwp once you’ve fully acknowledged my reply in a humane and relevant manner…
pps it was not because they were too lazy to look they simply could not understand why they were being cheated…and/or that they needed extra info cos they trusted the system…
Ahhhhh!… your last post saying – “pps it was not because they were too lazy to look” explains it all! I was saying that YOU were being too lazy to look, not anyone else!
so i’ve proved my point now you try to change the subject matter well i’m obviously NOT lazy i never have been, being a FULLY SKILLED TIME SERVED 1968 ON, HGV MECHANIC… WITH DISTINCTIONS IN ALL OF MY EXAMS…which all goes to show that you’re talking out of your arse and think/state ELBOW GREASE IMPLIED IN YOUR HANDLE EVEN that lazy people suffer most pains, and obvs don’t want an answer to the dwp question that you posed…which in it’s self, the question shows your distinct lack of knowledge of govt and how it operates…which if you had answered my question appropriately i would have shared with you and not said ‘find it yersel you lazy git’ but would have tried to help you understand the root issues and problems…these blogs are functionally about sharing useful info to keep one safe as possible when up against this dire system…
You SERIOUSLY think that saying you managed to sit a couple of exams many years ago proves that you’re not lazy??? For fuck’s sake, every child in the UK can do that!
The fact that you couldn’t even be bothered to read about Corbyn’s position on the DWP and WCA before spouting irrelevant crap tells an entirely different story! So, do you have an opinion about how to reform the DWP or not?
bollocks i never said anything irrelevant about corbyn….so i’ve proved my point now you try to change the subject matter well i’m obviously NOT lazy i never have been, being a FULLY SKILLED TIME SERVED 1968 ON, HGV MECHANIC… WITH DISTINCTIONS IN ALL OF MY EXAMS….you pick and choose what you represent….
Let’s imagine a man who sat some exams many years ago and did pretty well. He regarded himself as qualified and skilled man, and felt quite proud of himself. A few years later he realised that he could get regular payments from his family, who had more money than sense. For the last ten or twenty years he hasn’t done a stroke of productive work. He doesn’t feel good about himself or his past, and even disparages his family for the very principles which keep a roof over his head and food on the table.
Do you think he’s lazy?
AN HGV MECHANIC CANNOT BE LAZY, IT’S IMPOSSIBLE….
In case you hadn’t noticed, you’re not an HGV mechanic any more, you’re living off the ‘family’!
so what are you claiming that people on benefits state pensions or other wise owe you…???
I didn’t say that anybody owes me anything. Why did you invent that?
OBD – Sorry, my last post was too vague. To be more specific… Now you’ve read a little about his views on WCA, do you think Corbyn should be Labour leader?
ps this one’s for free, you’re welcome…you’re seriously deluded if you think corbyn, and his 15, can change much in a timely manner within the labour party, reform it….!!?? and that i would take him seriously….a 20yr battle, @ least, for labour to be anywhere nr electable, they’re split in every way imaginable, and therefore not as yet even going in the right direction…the only comfort that can be drawn from his popularity is what jv and wings and others have already alluded to, is that people want change……
Of course people want change! That’s a statement of the fucking obvious. Have you got any opinions about how? Or is whinging all you can do……?
i offer opinions, you call them whinging and offer nothing constructive in return only that i’ve disappointed you by not giving more….
Your ‘opinions’ are 100% negative, and therefore ARE just whinging. I think a Corbyn-led Labour party, combined with the SNP, is the best chance of creating a sane society that we’ve seen in a generation or more. If you have no ideas or hopes for a better future then I pity you. Do you have any?……
no my opinions are 100% realistic…..yes i’ve considered an snp link up maybe 100/150 mp’s for radical change, but not in cabinet/govt for @ least 20yrs, and what would that change be in your opinion not hope but reality….i assume you have an opinion on the subject of social justice….
Why do you say not for at least 20 years? What’s wrong with voting for Corbyn-led Labour or SNP at the NEXT election?
Did you vote at the last election?
i’ve already explained and included references…i voted snp as you well know…
If you think that the democratic process is pointless, then why did you bother to vote for the SNP? And what process (if any) do you think DOES have point?
…and to make a logical point – Labour is unelectable if people (like you, Blair and others) say they’re unelectable and so don’t vote for them! Your prophecy is self-fulfilling.
obd – If you really wanted to know Corbyn’s opinions, then you would have already looked elsewhere and found them. You’re actually not interested at all, are you? It’s time to forget Dr Bob Security Blanket and grow up……
EVERYONE ONE FOUND FIT FOR WORK SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH BENEFIT FRAUD.
The DWP hiding behind ATOS / MAXIMUS Again.
Only if they have deliberately told lies in order to get benefits.
ATOS criticised by MSP after backtrack on pledge
snp.org – 18th Aug 2015
Joan McAlpine MSP has today criticised ATOS for backtracking on a pledge made at the Welfare Reform Committee to disclose how much money they make from carrying out the UK Government’s Welfare assessments on people with disabilities.
As reported in today’s Daily Record, ATOS boss David Haley told the Welfare Reform Committee in June that he would be forthcoming with how much ATOS is profiting from the Personal Independence Payment (PIP) contract but two months later the firm has U-turned and refused to disclose this information.
PIP is a benefit for people aged 16 to 64 who have a long-term health condition or disability and is replacing Disability Living Allowance (DLA). It is understood that at least 20 per cent of current DLA claimants are likely to lose all or some of their current payments
Joan McAlpine MSP said:
“At the Welfare Reform Committee in June ATOS boss David Haley agreed to disclose the profits that they expect to make from their Personal Independence Payment (PIP) contract.
“It is simply unacceptable that they are now trying to wriggle out of that commitment.
“They had to be dragged kicking and screaming to the Scottish Parliament in the first place – and now it is clear they were just fobbing us off with promises that they had no intention of keeping.
“ATOS are happy enough to do the UK Government’s dirty work by carrying out assessments that can lead to sanctions on welfare payments for disabled people – and they must now come clean on how much money they are making from this contract.
“The Tory Government ministers hide from answering questions Scotland’s Parliament – but the sooner the organ grinder Iain Duncan Smith comes here to explain his decisions, which make life so difficult for so many vulnerable and hardworking Scots, the better.”
http://www.snp.org/media-centre/news/2015/aug/atos-criticised-msp-after-backtrack-pledge
ATOS are death statistics WCA DWP deaths.
ATOS earned 70,000 dead people`s ID in ID Fraud.
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TARGETS.
The backhanders paid to those at the Courts of Human Rights must be phenomenal, given the time they have had to act.
I am of the opinion that the British government also intercepted mail that was destined to the Geneva offices.
Our government are so corrupt they would stop at nothing to avert having to pay huge litigation fines. The bubble is set to burst as DUNKO THE CLOWNs reign of terror is set to come to an end.
PPI claims will seem chickenfeed as the CORPORATE MANSLAUGHTER charges start to flow.
……………and all the kings horses and all the kings men, couldn’t put DUNKO together again………
Geoff – The ECHR must have some idea of what is going on – otherwise why are they not taking any action? I agree with you that somewhere along the line I strongly suspect that something may be being paid to them to ‘look the other way’. And yes, DUNKO THE CLOWN’s days in Office are numbered. He is going to fall down just like Humpty Dumpty and the only one that may try to put him together again is his ‘good friend’, Cameron.
The Pressure for Ian Duncan Smith to Resign as Secretary of State
for Work and Pensions Need to Intensify.
The Misery that has been Inflicted since May 2010 AD is Worse
than Diabolical
No to Austerity Yes to Human Decency
DWP DISABILITY HATE CRIMES.
WCA = DISABILITY HATE CRIME
DWP Suicide Threats. Self Harm The WCA. Give the Life Coach a mental Health Problem. String up the Disability Confidence Tricksters & hang them.
Fraud is the risk. Who`s at risk of suicide ID fraud DWP.
DWP DEATH TRAPS.
Council Tax Reduction Needs to be Protected from any Attacks as it is the Poor who are Suffering Not the Rich
I am Appalled to hear of any possible plans to Reduce Council Tax Reduction which will Further Impoverish the Poor who have Suffered under the Tories More than Enough as it is.
This is in a Tory Britain where there is Homelessness on one Hand and Cuts to Local Government Funding whilst the Rich have had Tax Breaks .
Councils Must Not put Extra Council Tax Burdens upon the Already Poor , It is like Tory Policies Nationally Worse than Disgusting.
The Bulk of Taxation should Not Fall upon the Destitute Poor it Needs
to Fall upon the Rich as they have the Money
Appalled as Well by the Recent Appointments to the House of Lords
Not Least the Lousy Liberal Democrats
The Liberal Democrats Propped Up the Tory Regime between May
2010 AD and March/May 2015 AD so Shame on Them
Many People want to Scrap the House of Lords
Reblogged this on perfectlyfadeddelusions.
“Another piece of fiction from the DWP DEPARTMENT OF DEATH”
A DWP spokesman added “The mortality rate for people who have died while claiming an out-of-work benefit has fallen over a 10-year period. This is in line with the mortality rate for the general working-age population.
All:
An answer to an FOI request published today: Universal Credit Knowledge Management
Has anyone posting here actually had 35 hours worth of job search activities included on their Claimant Commitment? I’d like to know.
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/283807/response/699882/attach/html/3/FOI%203232.pdf.html
I have just noticed a post on the Benefits & Work website that states that:
“In fact as we know, there have been dozens of cases in which coroner’s inquests have cited the WCA as a contributory factor in claimants deaths”
If this is the case, then the Coroner’s Court is a ‘Court of Law’ in the true sense of the words. I would then have thought that the relatives of these poor people could well have some form of redress legally against the DWP/the WCA provider (or both).
After all, one organisation is ordering it to be carried out and the other organisation is being paid to carry it out on their behalf.
As usual though, IDS is still (in law) also responsible as it was he who is at the head of the whole thing and has given out these policies to follow in the first place.
Incidentally, welcome back to our good friend Geoff Reynolds! Good to see you back on here and that earlier ‘xxxxx’ post is superb. It really tells it just like it is. It is a terrible and totally unnecessary tragedy for all involved.
People that are Not Angry in their Little Cuckoolands and Oblivious to
The Massive Death Toll of the Poor and Vulnerable are like those who
who Collaborated with the Nazis in France Evil Scum and should be
Viewed as Such
Lack of Outrage about an Outrage is an Outrage in Itself
strikes me as very hypocritical among other things that a middleclass uk subject should accuse a poor person of taking bread from the mouths of poor others…
Thanks for that obd 🙂
Ha ha! What class assumptions you make! Are you sure you’re not a Tory?
Benefits cheats (even those commanded to do so by god!) ARE taking food from people who are genuinely in need.
obd – once again elbow grease posits an illogical argument, this time it is that those who exaggerate (ie lie about) the time they have spent looking for work, are less genuinely in need of benefits than those who do not exaggerate the time they have spent jobsearching (and are usually sanctioned for it!)
f
it knows nothing very little about the system….a goader…
ps ids and ‘i believe’, the true benefit cheat is the system…..
obd – I agree – IDS and his system are both true benefits cheats.
Awwwww… bless, how cute! You’re having a little hug to reassure each other. Why? A guilty conscience?……
Iain Duncan Smith: Be assured, the clock on you is still ticking.
You may run and you may try to hide – but I can assure you my (not) friend, we will catch up with you and you are going to have to pay for your crimes that you have carried out against the most vulnerable and the poor and the sick and disabled people of Britain. You think that you have got away with all of this. You are wrong. You will pay – and you will pay very dearly in the not too distant future.
This Country is a Fucking Mess of Poverty Deprivation and Liberal
Trendy Do Gooders as Well and the Bulk of the Poxy Great British
Public are to Blame as Well
Them Out of Touch Bastards are too Thick to Realize that Poor Relief
is for People who may well Need it given Circumstances as well as
those who have Poor Relief
Fucking Townie Mentality a Recipe for Braindead Slavery Collaborating
Scum
Yes to Human Dignity Shame on Slavery Collaborators Latter Day
Nazi Lovers
See that Petition for Resignation of Ian Duncan Smith as Secretary
of State For Work and Pensions Now has over 102,000 Signatures
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