If yesterday’s election showed anything it is that most people do not want a Tory government. Just 20% of the public voted Tory – the same proportion of the population the Office for National Statistics estimates have a personal wealth of over £600,000. The rich are in charge despite what the rest of us want. As usual.
No matter what might have happened yesterday the rich would still be in charge. The UK’s electoral system has been designed over hundreds of years to ensure precisely that. In Scotland the whole country can vote on mass to reject both of the main political parties and it doesn’t make a blind bit of fucking difference. A million people can vote Green and nearly four million UKIP and nothing will change. Although the UKIP thing is pretty funny. Bye Nigel.
Already some in the Labour Party want to lurch even further to the right as if Ed Miliband really was the comedy communist some sections of the press protrayed him as. This is a party that just lost dozens of seats to the SNP who want to build council houses, scrap Trident and halt many of the most vicious welfare reforms. Despite what’s staring them in the face Labour still think that being more Tory is the only thing that will lead them to success. They don’t give a shit about the people who actually did vote for them, in Northern England, London and Wales. There is no voice for the poor, at all, and that is the way it’s intended to be.
When politics is this broken then all that is left is the streets. For the last five years the real opposition has not been the Labour Party, but disabled people, benefits clamaints, students, tenants and the low or no paid. As bleak as things may seem today we are in a better position than we were last week. The Tory majority is paper thin. Scotland is rising. The Libs Dems are dead. Welfare reforms are still in chaos and Iain Duncan Smith is still a fucking idiot. And Minister for Employment Esther McVey is now unemployed.
London Black Revs have called a protest tomorrow (Saturday 9th May) outside the Tory HQ in London. The sooner we get back out on the streets the better. Please help spread the word, meet at 3pm, Conservative Campaign Headquarters, 4 Matthew Parker St, London SW1H 9HQ. Visit and share the facebook page for more details.
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If people are going to demonstrate, they should do it at the City of London, not Tory HQ. Who do they think’s in charge?
bill
which bit of the sq mile do you propose the demo should be, then…?
I, agree. Tory is just as evil as labour. But, look at it as a more positive atleast esther mcvey has lost her seat
(that absolutely made my day)
Today is my birthday, it is the worst ever I am one of the sick and disabled and am terrified of the future, not sure I can survive another five years of an evil Tory government. In shock how could this have happened ? The only word I can think of is devastating. How long before the cracks start to appear ? Maybe I’ll move to Scotland ? How can we bring about social change when people are too greedy and selfish ?
Look after yourself… I think today is the day that all of us who care about what this government are doing will have to be extra vigilant with ourselves where it comes to looking after our neighbours.
It’s been a depressing day for sure, but still, it is your birthday, so best wishes and stay strong.
*Hugs* It’s my birthday as well and I agree it’s pretty terrible but as the post pointed out only around 20% of the population voted Tory. All is not lost – politics doesn’t stop when the voting does.
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I can see within 2 years we will have major civil unrest and riots on our streets and in our tows & cities, people just will not stand what the Tories intend to inflict on the people, they know the elite’s time is coming, that their time is up and are playing a scorched earth policy, in 5 years there will be nothing left after another 5 years of the Tories unless they get stopped somehow…
great post…yep, there i a real passion for change right across the uk, if there were only other parties like plaid et al who could get a foot hold in r.uk, politics…held back by the MSM/establishment….the labour party is now in tatters can there ever be a better time for a new truly grassroots socialist party to emerge, r.uk…? we have to push for and demand change right across these islands…
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/alan/dont-blame-scotland-be-in_b_7241292.html ‘Don’t Blame Scotland, Be Inspired by Scotland’
‘As the newly elected Member of Parliament for Gordon stated after election, “It is an extraordinary statement of intent from the people of Scotland. The Scottish Lion has roared this morning across the country.” ‘If Labour had stood for anti austerity, the removal vans would been arriving at Number10 right now…’
Now that the abled bodied people have had their go in trying to change things & it has not worked. Step back & now let the disabled people do their work in Human Rights & Equality Issues. Disability is not a political issue.
So when are the DWP going to take me to court for defrauding the DWP out of £800,000 over the past …. years. I am still wanting on the DWP`s loop Holes of fraud. I will make a load of money in that job of defending myself. The Onus Is On The Burden Of Proof. Let`s get high profile in the media.
Cash Cow Rebellion.
Let`s settle out of court DWP it will be very bad press for DWP. Wasting my time DWP I am gonna make money out of you.
2 years & not a dickie bird.
Makes a mockery out of sanctions.
Fat Dave did his level best to lose the election, he’s long shown the blank uninterest of a man who can’t wait to join Blair on the ex-prime minister’s gravy train but he was up against an almost invisible Labour party, too scared really oppose anything at all and a rabid right wing press determined to protect the non-doms who own it. After the enormous disasters they’ve caused and the forthcoming ones it would have suited the Tories to lose the election, force another one in a couple of years and blame the short-lived Labour government for the next decade.
Now Fat Dave has to cope with the vast torrent of shit he’s already caused and a manifesto packed with undeliverable, uncosted and (in the case of right to buy housing association property) outright illegal promises made only because he thought he’d never have to deliver any of them. How’s that referendum on EU membership going to work if Scotland and or Wales want to stay in?
I honestly expect the next five years will see at least one Tory MP murdered as those who have already suffered most are subject to even more pressure.
kent
no! it’s not going to be pretty, empowered social media, the people of the uk and 56 salivating scottish mp’s et al + some labour mp’s, relentlessly hounding the tories…. ‘holding their feet to the fire’…@ every opp…
From the Highlands down to the River Tees is virtually a Tory-free zone now. Some of Labour’s more radical (relatively speaking) MPs are in the North East. There must be some scope for a breakaway Northern Britain bloc in parliament ?
I have been looking at the electoral map, and I don’t think Cameron is gonna get it easy at all. Every major urban area in England voted Labour. With the exception of some of the better to places of London.and 2 or 3 in Birmingham, There in not a single tory in any of these other places. It is all, mostly rural and suburban. That is bound to lead to day of reckoning. While it’s true, the Scottish MPs have limited influence, it will be damn hard, like impossible for Cameron to impose things on Scotland if all but 1 of 59 MPs vote against it.
Labour lost a lot of votes to UKIP in various places too, as UKIP did appear to sound more socialist than Labour, while tories didn’t want to risk a UKIP vote in case it stopped the tories.
The ppl who voted UKIP in these areas will be sorry now. Again, they were well warned. But Labour lost those votes because most folks didn’t see any real difference between them and tory.
Miliband and his stupid “stone” he had carved was the end of Labour!
I am not surprised in the end. Labour were warned time and again, they were heading to disaster with Miliband, but they were too afraid of the rightwing London press. Labour MPs were wimps who didn’t dare upset the apple cart. Well, it is Labour that let everyone down.
As for LibDems, they were warned, and deserved to have no seats. Only 1 in Scotland, 1 in Wales, and a mere 6 MPs for all of England, loosing the 3 they had in Cornwall. The may as well disband, and Clegg should be resigning not from his useless bunch of renegades but as an MP.
The Libdems are small enough to fit the whole party in two London cabs, mate, and still have two seats left over 😀
I am getting bored by Poll A Tricks – Disability is not a political issue – as proof no one talking about disability before the election. Now you want disability to become political. What rubbish. Disability Is Not A Political or a political issue it is a Human Rights & Equality Issue. Politics take a back seat.
The Welfare Reform is going to be fast tracked through causing more problems for admin. UC fast tracked. Wake up & Wise up.
The Welfare Reform is the key to the austerity end.
At the cost of how many DWP deaths !!!!
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Spot on analysis Johnny. But I can’t sta here chatting when I have 5 hours jobsearching to do ….
Have yu not noticed that over the past 2 years the DWP are too scared to sanction me. Was it something I said & wrote.
Ok I admit to £1 million DWP fraud & they don`t believe a word you say. Loop Hole.
Too Media High Profile DWP.
Proves there is loop holes in the DWP to be defrauded. Now ACT !!!
Have you got your £2 million Cash Cow Yet DWP !!!
You have reminded me of when, a few years ago, I phoned the ‘snitch on a claimant’ number. Unlike other attempts to contact DWP, I got through immediately and had a conversation with a very pleasant & helpful man. I gave my name & address & said i intended to defraud the DWP in order to survive financially. He followed procedure even to the point of asking what I looked like & what car I drove! Nothing came of it. As you say, bullying claimants is easy but they haven’t the ability or evidence to actually do anything to those they routinely libel.
But the people obviously do want the conservatives judging by the rise in seats! What good is your ‘march’ truly going to do apart from put even more pressure on our services. Like it or lump it the ‘rich’ are the ones who are paying the most tax and keeping this economy alive. My tax bill last year was more than the average wage but we do not live life in luxury – we don’t even own our own home, I have no pension and truth be told I’ll be working until I die. Now people will probably complain and say I’m a middle class twit who voted conservatives and yes I am. However I’m also the person who grew up on a council estate, lived in a foster home and was homeless at 15. I am the person who believes that anything is possible in life with hard work and commitment and I truly believe that’s what the Conservative party are attempting to do. Don’t forget when they came into power we were on the verge of collapse. It’s been tough the recession hit my business too but there is logic behind these cuts. I’ve noticed abit of a trend on social media and have indirectly been called a c.€# by a fb friend because I chose to vote conservative. If that’s what I am judging by her comments that I shall own that proudly whilst wearing a smile that conservatives are in power
See how long you’re smiling when you need the NHS, lose your job or have to sell your home for to pay personal care. Keep grinning as the tax base collapses due to the taxpayer subsidising tax dodging low pay companies and buy to let landlords. You just don’t get it – the opportunities you had came from a strong welfare state that gave security and educational opportunity to all and decent wages driven up by strong unions. The young now have none of that, just trampling over each other for the crusts thrown to them by the rich. While the Tory party may once at least have appeared to have been the party that supported individual opportunity and hard work it is now exists to serve the mega rich. You won’t be smiling in five years because Fat Dave’s mates will have had the gold fillings from your mouth.
You obviously didn’t read my post properly. I don’t own my own home I rent so I’m giving my money to those fat cat landlords you are talking about, I am self employed so I make my own opportunities and money. Yes it’s been tough in the last 5 years I in fact nearly lost my business due to the recession but I’m not blaming the conservatives for that. So what if MPs come from a privileged background?! Id rather that than have a prime minister that is just like the average person. The money needs to come from somewhere and the government are always going to make decisions that people aren’t happy about. I have been affected by the benefits cuts too
If what you are saying is true then you are a mug and the sneering toffs and chancers of the Tory party will be delighted to rob you blind. See how happy you are in five years.
Basically, if you are old, young, a child, working, unemployed, employed, sick well or. Even human and breathing you are STUFFED now tories back in. The words turkey and Christmas come to mind..
I’m speechless. Have you joined the Conservative party? Did you know they gave away complimentary mugs to their supporters?
It sais a lot when someone has to result in using bad language or calling someone names in order to get their point across. Shows the argument has been lost. I for one wouldn’t dream of calling someone a c€%t or a mug for standing up for their beliefs
Yeah yeah whinge about being insulted while posting on a blog where most of the readership are pretty clued up on reality. Have you ever thought everything you’ve said is pretty much just garbage? Argument what argument exactly? You are making no points other than to stand up and shout about how proud you are to be ignorant. I can sum everything you’ve said up as the following: “Bad observations follow by Terrible fallacy and then sob story, more sob story and even more sob story and then wah wah wah people are mean to me because I’m a poor little Tory” Part 2 “Yet again more sob story and I’m happy for the UK to be ruled by privileged people over non privileged people thus continuing deep inequality, as quoted here: “So what if MPs come from a privileged background?! Id rather that than have a prime minister that is just like the average person. “”
You have freedom of speech (on this blog it depends on johnnyvoid) but we have the freedom to point and laugh at your ridiculous amount of political illiteracy. You have no right to be taken seriously. None what so ever. I haven’t “lost the argument” because this was never a debate worthy argument in the first place. Ha ha ha.
It might be a stroke, it might be a heart attack, you never know A.b when an out of the blue cancer diagnosis will turn your life into a massive pile of rotting shit. No one knows what will happen to them. Not even you.
Let’s see you and your tragic, inverted, aspirational snobbery thrive then shall we?
Do you really find swearing more offensive than the horrific abuse the sick. disabled and the unemployed have been treated to in the last five years?
If you do, then you are not only a cunt, you are a cowardly, trolling cunt as well.
@A.b
While you think everything is hunky-dory under your Tory friends you could have a stroke or heart attack tonight. So what then after your Tory chums have sold off our NHS? Don’t think it won’t happen – it CAN. A stroke can hit anyone irrespective of age, gender or level of fitness. Waking in the small hours with your mind wiped is no joke.
Even now it appears Miliband thinks the loss of seats in Scotland is down to nationalism but we all know its down to opposing austerity. If the SNP could have stood in all 650 seats in the UK they would have done a lot better than labour. They were saying before the election that the Tories and labour were too similar now they are saying that labour were too much to the left. The reality is that labour are not on the left and apart from opposing the bedroom tax they would have forced on us workfare and all the other plans the Tories will now force us to do to avoid sanctions.
SNP did consider standing in Berwick-upon-Tweed… would have been interesting had they followed through. I’d think they could stand in most northern urban centres and put in creditable performances.
Something they ought to consider when bye-elections come up ?
It’s not down to nationalism at all.
Yes, the SNP are avowedly nationalist, but only the politically illiterate (most Labour voters, and people with a vested interest in misleading people) interpret it in simplistic sense thus: Nazis are nationalist, therefore all nationalists are nazis.
Yes, the Nazis were nationalist in the sense of being ‘Blood and Soil’ nationalists, but the SNP are no more nationalist than the Tories or Labour are, and are civic, which is about as far away from Blood and Soil as you could hope to be – notice that neither Plaid Cymru or the SNP made immigration a big issue. That could be down to fear of being accused of what they are usually accused of anyway, because, after all, they are nationalists (even though they are a lot less jingoistic and colonialist than the Brits, have you noticed?). But also, when you get to know both the SNP and Plaid Cymru you realise that many of their leading lights are educated ‘immigrants’ from England, and tend to have a broad cross section of the wider community amongst their membership.
The mainstream supposedly non-nationalists spout a British civic nationalism rather than a peculiarly Scottish nationalism. Any deviation from a British nationalism is immediately dubbed ‘nazi’ by much of the illiterate British ‘left’. Sure, it is often pointed out that Plaid Cymru and the SNP has amongst their membership closet Tories, but so does the Labour Party, which brings us to the real reason that so many voted SNP in Scotland
It was the perception that the Labour Party still contained too many closet Tories that did for them in Scotland, and the total failure of Labour to disabuse the electorate of that notion by the inclusion of radical policies that would have persuaded stay at home Labour voters to go out and vote because, for once, there was something worth voting for. Voting SNP at the very least offers the chance of people changing things north of the border. If Scotland goes independent then they will be able to build their own society the way they want it. It may not be a proletarian nirvana beloved of the lunatic left (and thank bloody goodness!), and end up more like Scandinavia but compared to what is now likely to happen south of the border, that seems like a kind of utopia.
a b
http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/nov/12/one-40-jobs-created-recession-full-time-employee-tuc-employment tax take has plummeted,
putting £50/wk in the pockets of 20m + people is worth far more to our economy than doing the same for 1m+ people… unpacking boxes in a warehouse and retail is very bad for local economic growth…. see common weal scotland….for solutions….
ab – presumably you weren’t the particular homeless person sanctioned ie starved by a jcp advisor for applying for 27 jobs instead of 28.
A.b
You really should have done your research before voting, in fact I’m not sue you should have voted.
Like it or lump it the ‘rich’ are the ones who are paying the most tax and keeping this economy alive.
Where do you think the rich’s money comes from in the first place, banks?, benefit claimants?, investments?, or do ‘cuts’ create money?
My tax bill last year was more than the average wage
If you’re paying more than £26,000 a year in tax you must be doing something wrong, and what the hell are you doing with the other £85,000.
I am the person who believes that anything is possible in life with hard work and commitment
So why then
I have no pension and truth be told I’ll be working until I die.
Don’t forget when they came into power we were on the verge of collapse.
LOL
proudly whilst wearing a smile that conservatives are in power
Come back in 2 or 3 months time.
The *rise* in number of seats does not demonstrate that people want the Conservatives in government. They do in the sense that a higher percentage voted for the Conservatives than for Labour, but the Conservative share of the vote did not rise compared to 2010 (well, only by 0.8%). The reason for the rise in Tory seats I’ve tried to explain in my comment way down the bottom of this page.
Oh please. Learn what democracy is. Even if you don’t accept it, you must admit that the majority wanted a conservative government.
You should learn what democracy is. British democracy is 75 or so seats where around 100,000 middle class floating voters determine the government. It is a country where safe seats mean all votes are not of equal value. It is a country where the Prime Minister elected in one safe seat wields presidential powers of patronage (Fat Dave had over half of Tory MPs on the pad) but not presidential accountability. Fat Dave insists a majority of Union members will be required to endorse industrial action but won’t submit Parliament to that standard. British democracy is an unaccountable second chamber filled with those who bought their position with donations. British democracy is an unaccountable head of state, born to the role. Compare this with Swiss democracy
a j
20% of voters a majority…? learn something new everyday….!
The largest minority wanted a Conservative government. FPTP is an archaic system that disenfranchises most voters. Any true democracy has PR.
Conservatives got 36.9% of the vote – just over a third. That’s not a majority.
The majority DIDN’T vote for the Conservatives.
Hey mothafucker … democracy is a sham!
No they didn’t. Add up all the votes for parties other than Conservative.
Anna Jane, you don’t understand the electoral system. Only 20% of the voting populace voted Tory.
Please stop embarrassing yourself.
I saw where it was going just before 1 and turned off BBC and went to bed.
The People have Spoken – those curretly benifiting/untouched from the ConCons policies.
When they start to bleat not us, then there will be a change in attitude but I say, no change back unless its ALL the way back.
Paraphrasing “If we burn, you burn with us”
After being the winner the only way to go is in fighting & the Tory voters will be moaning. Middle Classes trying to better their self in some fake social standing.
I agree on the whole but the Lib Dems aren’t dead yet.
emma
yep, there’s one trapped nr here….
http://www.historic-scotland.gov.uk/propertyresults/propertyoverview.htm?PropID=PL_244 he does complain the roof leaks though…no pleasing some people…
Thank you!
The People Have spoken. So does that mean it`s a dictatorship !!!!
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Why the hell have we voted these arseclowns back in, don’t they realise what they’ve done over the past 5 years, the damage and the hurt that they’ve caused, and it’s only going to get worse, not for the rich of course, everything will be as it has been, tickety boo, it’ll be us poor, everyday bastards who’ll get the big stick again, we British now are such a gutless, weak kneed, half baked, useless people, we don’t stand up for ourselves for anything, all of the liberties and rights that we rightfully have, democratically have, the state takes them away and we do nothing about it and all we wonder why our nation is lost and why we’re in a big, bloody mess, everything they’ve done during their term has been illegal, what they’re getting away with is criminal and yet what have we done about it, what is our response, our usual response, nothing, absolutely nothing at all, the typical British attitude and reply, the “mustn’t grumble” reply, and attitude that was drummed into us and now is the normal state of mind of this country, spineless, incompetent, useless weaklings who believe any old horseshit the government says, thank Thatcher for that, she destroyed any backbone we had left and not only are we ball-less, we are more callous and cold hearted now too, all about looking after number 1, I’m all right Jack, me, me, me, me type attitude, cruel and uncaring we are more now, something else we can blame Thatcher for too! Good luck for tomorrow everyone, I’m supporting you and with you all the way!
DON’T WE REALISE WHAT WE ‘HAVE DONE’
bernadette
aye, many voted snp, that’s what, ‘slabber/libdem wipe out’ 2016 holyrood elections next….we kept one of each + a tory, as reminders….down to r’uk who they vote for….
http://wingsoverscotland.com/seeing-it-coming-a-mile-off/
Depends who you mean by ‘we’ Bernadette. If you’re in England then yes the English people have seen fit to vote Cameron and his deviant crew back in for 5 more years. In Scotland we nearly wiped the other three parties out. The idea was for a massive amount of SNP MP’s to side with Miliband to get him into power. That was predicated on the Labour supporters in England doing their bit. They didn’t do it. They may have swallowed Cameron’s make believe stories about the SNP making all the decisions and fuelled by an anti-scottish nationalism they couldn’t see further than the end of their nose and decided to vote Tory. Now see where it’s got them.
This Labour catastrophe is the doing of the English electorate. Have no doubts about that. Even if Labour had got all the SNP seats they still wouldn’t have won this election which surely demonstrates that the English electorate would prefer 5 more years of zero hour contracts, foodbanks, massive benefit cuts and slashing of public services rather than vote Labour.
I agree with most of what you say – but I think people vote Tory because they simply don’t know about food banks, zero hour contracts, etc., or aren’t affected by them. And they know bugger all about fracking, or TTIP, etc. because the media ignores those things. As it ignores bombing and destabilising Libya. And even if people do think about such issues, they’re so stupid in England they conclude oh, well I don’t want Labour therefore I’ll vote Tory – even if they haven’t thought it through in any way. It’s not straightforward of course – because Labour policy is not far off Tory Policy on many issues, so that hardly creates a strong brand, so to speak, in the electorate’s mind. At least the SNP have got guts and a clear message of what they want.Maybe I’ll move back there.
“This Labour catastrophe is the doing of the English electorate”
I disagree. Blair the corporate whore, destroyed Labour when he was elected as leader and squelched out the grotesquery of “New Labour”
Since then Labour have done all they could to distance themselves from the poor. They have threatened and sneered at the poor relentlessly. It’s not surprising that they lost seats. They lost the election because they are not socialists, they have no relation to socialism at all. They, like all the big parties, make no reference to the reality of real people, ever.
If Labour hadn’t spent the last five years frantically shaping their “policies” and sound bites to ensure no one would associate them with ordinary people, if they hadn’t spent so much effort in currying favour with the middle classes, gagging for the chance to be “harder on welfare than the tories”, if they hadn’t turned away from the people, the people wouldn’t have turned away from them.
Labour showed themselves up badly throughout the last five years They behaved like cheap whores, spewing complements and promises of favour to the nasty old John they hope will pay them handsomely for a hand job. But the middle classes weren’t convinced. The hypocritical and selfish middle classes, voted tory. They don’t want anyone (especially the poor) stealing their spare choccie biccies.
I’m not surprised that so many voted for other parties, though still disgusted that so many voted Tory.
The MSM have a large responsibility for the result too. They are just one of the morally reprehensible entities, who ensure that the corrupt, oppressive system flourishes.
Scotland has had an awakening with the referendum that we have not had in England. The energy that Scotland found for itself has no practical, goal focussed way of translating south of the border. There’ll be no independence for England.
It’s easier to mobilise people for one issue than it is to do the same when the issues are multiple, complex and the population is fractionated into enclaves that are motivated by fear/hate for and jealousy of others – all at the behest of our MSM and the ridiculous politicians we have down here.
Despite your scorn of the English electorate Raining, perhaps the truth is that so many didn’t vote Labour, because if Labour got in, there would be little difference between the Labour modus operandi and the tories? It is nothing about wanting five more years of hell. To suggest so is pretty insulting.
I know there are a few Labour diehards who think Labour would have helped the poor, worked for more equality, but in the last five years (or actually going back to the day Blair was elected leader) they haven’t shown the slightest hint of doing so.
lucy
yes there is, independence of mind is to be fought for….through social justice, (anti-austerity and natural rights)….
OBD, the only party I have seen in England, give more than a flying fart about social justice & natural rights, is The Green Party.
lucy
the snp said fill yer boots, so we did…catalyst or permission!?…whatever, it is now OUR movement…
We have no such catalyst down here, it will be interesting to see if the toxic inertia of Westminster grinds down those 50 or so SNP MPs. We see it so often, many enter those doors with the greatest intentions then the riches, perks & power sway them.
Not sure what you mean by “our movement” ?
lucy
it won’t grind them down….the indyscot movement, is our movement..
Who is “our” then?
Just the Scottish?
Are you getting a bit tribal there OBD?
lucy
christ behave will you, i thought you were going in that direction why didn’t you come out and say it before?!… no there is no tribalism, it’s the way you have described it….the yes movement has formed and in place, the r.uk anti-austerity/social justice movement is fragmented and divided, accept it, then change it…but no the our is all of us….how it transfers to r.uk is up to those who want to transfer it…you really can’t expect me to transfer a whole movement…like i say i want reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life for all…we’re fighting for change it hasn’t happened yet…all we’ve done is put some facilitating mechanisms in place, work with those….
You are probably right, Lucy. The free food and drink will get to them. And with like any new profession the ‘idealism’ will soon wear off. Come another five years and they will be getting kicked out to be replaced with another shower of chancers.
And whatever happens in the next five years those 50 new SNP MPs are going to suffer in anyway whatsoever; they are fully-protected and sheltered from any ‘cuts’ or whatever the rest of us have to suffer, we won’t be seeing any of them queuing at foodbank any time soon.
aren’t going to suffer **
OBD
“but no the our is all of us”
I was only asking a question, and finally you answered it. Thank you.
No need for the rest of what you typed. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t use me to bang your drum and accuse me of something which I am not guilty.
same
you’re mixing 2 entities up 1 the snp, 2 the yes indyscot movement as if the are the same thing, the indyscotref wasn’t about the snp….ie @ the holyrood elections i will not vote snp nor will as many who did now….but we will not vote for a pro-union msp’s, either….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6mf7rHzL8U&src_vid=dNmPXdGNNNs&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_2321612507 the ssp case for indyscot….
lucy
but i’d already said that….
OBD, why are you trying and make an argument out of nothing? I asked a simple question. You decided to gallop off with some fabricated, fantastical old guff about me and my question.
I have no idea what you are typing about and your lack of humour is only making you look irascible and silly.
Please feel free to have the last word.
lucy
i have as many reasons today to be happy as i need i don’t need anymore… 🙂
Lucy, Forgive the ignorance , but what does MSM stand for?
In anticipation,
It stands for MainStream Media Bernadette. Took me ages to work it out too 😉
Lol didn’t realise you’d answered Bernadette until I refreshed the page, Lucy, sorry ladies, just trying to help my neighbour! 🙂
No matter what happened in that election lets keep that old value alive – think we’re going to need it more than ever these next 5 years. 😦
That would have made sense had my original post posted where I answered too lol! 😉
“I disagree. Blair the corporate whore, destroyed Labour when he was elected as leader and squelched out the grotesquery of “New Labour”
Disagree all you like dear. Unfortunately for us that’s the reality of the situation. Even if the Labour party had won all the SNP seats they still wouldn’t have won the election. That’s not scorn, that is fact. There are way too many people in England who prefer a government that imposes workfare, zero hour contracts, draconian benefit cuts and growing foodbank use rather than vote for a party that said they would address at least some of those issues.
Scotland and England are completely incompatible and i see a second referendum coming at some point in the future.
There is Something Far from Right my Instinct Tells me about the
General Election Result
Labour and the Tories were Neck to Neck in the Polls and Supposedly
they manage to get an Overall Majority
I have my Suspicions to Say the Least
The professional association that governs polling organisations is to launch a full inquiry into the inaccuracy of polling during the 2015 general election campaign.
The British Polling Council said it would look at an apparent “bias” in polls across the board which saw large disparities between the industry’s final snapshots of opinion and the real result on the night.
The Market Research Society, which concerns itself with survey standards in consumer research, will also be involved in the probe.
“The final opinion polls before the election were clearly not as accurate as we would like, and the fact that all the pollsters underestimated the Conservative lead over Labour suggests that the methods that were used should be subject to careful, independent investigation,” the Council said in a statement.
link below
I think part of it may be the stone sculpture thing Miliband got made for him and unveiled at the start of the week. That would have come too late for the opinion polls to make a difference to them, but I think, it certainly made a difference to ppls’ perception of this idiot. That did not help things at all, and ’till then he was doing not that bad, but it also was near the times of his stuff about refusing any help, even a few votes from SNP was also bad judgement, for he was basically telling everyone, he would rather have tories than have support of genuine progressive MPs. The London media were atrocious, on every level.
Knowing how he was portrayed by that media, he really, really, should have know better, and his advisors to go thru with a mad thing like getting pledges carved in stone.
Anyhow, that’s one of the reason the polls may have gotten it wrong in the England and Wales.
Miliband messed it up at the very end.
the stone was his kinnock on the beach moment or browns ovefheard comments moment but for ed its a win really he can now resume his personal friendship with dave,he missed him and theyre wives can holiday together again,lets not forget these facts,in politics you cant have 2 masters.just thought gordon,in his resignation speech he said “i can now get back to my normal life” doublespeak for bbq.s and dinner parties with dave
And just imagine if Ed had fell on his backside, as he nearly did when he stumbled as he left the stage during that election debate…. 😀 😀
Ed must be getting desperate, his wife Justine Greening was reading the news on the BBC World Service last night lol 😀
Who the fuck was advising Miliband anyway – Lynton Crosby, the Tories election strategist because whoever it is always seems intent on making Ed look a complete and utter oddball!
To be fair to Ed the BBC did have Sophie Raworth running around a great big stickle-brick map of Britain and Jeremy Vine prancing around on a CGI version of Downing Street looking as excited as if he was on the deck of the star ship Enterprise….
Enigma, in 1992 when I was Market Research Interviewer, I asked members of the public who they would vote for, you get the picture. Most ‘respondents’ would polity say ‘mind you own business’. At the time it was important to get to the ‘truth’ so we judged our ‘respondents’ on how they looked, their manner of approach and how fucking posh they were. Hence, we made it all up. Clearly, we got it all WRONG. The Cons got back in and their was mayhem. All in a days work. The Market Research Society (MRS) has got a lot to answer for. By the way, I have never cheated since, Oh yea, oh yea, oh yea!!!!
Me too, from that very night. Something was happening behind the scenes that none of us will ever know. Even the experts who’s life’s work is commentating on elections were flummoxed. It was all just so surreal from the exit poll. This could be it: Australian/American advisors in BOTH camps, Cons & Labour. American politics is so low-down dirty and now they’re over here British elections will never be the same again.
All it takes it for a handful of tories to get run over by a bus, flattened by a 10 tonne truck or whatever and Cameron will lose his majority 🙂
for fucks sake mr reaper arnt things bad benough
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The Don’t Vote Just Grumble Brigade has a Lot to Answer For
People being more Concerned with Celebrities than Social
Justice with Trendy Fashion Designs than Decent Government
We Need Mass Demonstrations on a Daily Basis Not the Zombieism
since 2010
mrmarcpc | May 8, 2015 at 4:41 pm | Reply
Why the hell have we voted these arseclowns back in, don’t they realise what they’ve done over the past 5 years, the damage and the hurt that they’ve caused, and it’s only going to get worse, not for the rich of course, everything will be as it has been, tickety boo, it’ll be us poor, everyday bastards who’ll get the big stick again, we British now are such a gutless, weak kneed, half baked, useless people, we don’t stand up for ourselves for anything, all of the liberties and rights that we rightfully have, democratically have, the state takes them away and we do nothing about it and all we wonder why our nation is lost and why we’re in a big, bloody mess, everything they’ve done during their term has been illegal, what they’re getting away with is criminal and yet what have we done about it, what is our response, our usual response, nothing, absolutely nothing at all, the typical British attitude and reply, the “mustn’t grumble” reply, and attitude that was drummed into us and now is the normal state of mind of this country, spineless, incompetent, useless weaklings who believe any old horseshit the government says, thank Thatcher for that, she destroyed any backbone we had left and not only are we ball-less, we are more callous and cold hearted now too, all about looking after number 1, I’m all right Jack, me, me, me, me type attitude, cruel and uncaring we are more now, something else we can blame Thatcher for too! Good luck for tomorrow everyone, I’m supporting you and with you all the way!
if ukip did not exist then we might have a labour government, all the clueless clowns voting for them LMFAO may as well voted for monster raving loony party
The majority of you on here fucking slagged of Labour before they even got a chance to show/make a difference. I hope you re all fucking proud of yourself(s).
The Tory Majority must be Challenged as in Terms of Votes Overall
the Poxy Tories do Not have a Majority
There is Constituency after Constituency where the Tories have
Less than 50% of Votes Cast in their Favour
Oppression= Depression
good luck in finding a job people (s)
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/theres-going-to-be-an-independent-inquiry-into-why-the-preelection-polls-were-so-inaccurate-10236608.html
Someone killed themselves at my local train station today. I don’t why they did it, could it just be a coincidence that it’s the result today or did someone give up their last bit of hope? RIP whoever they are.
a little selfish to though your self into the path of a train, but i do understand how it feels to get that low.
If you understand how “it feels” why are you accusing the person who died of being selfish?
Cliches about suicide cause more suicides.
Aw that’s so sad, whatever the reason. RIP that poor soul.
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DWP ain’t got no mandate to mandate Me!
Spot on. It makes no difference as far as we’re concerned they all had the daggers out for benefit claimants. We know the truth we have been at the end of it.anyone else who wants to fall for it that’s their choice.
The Conservatives will never unite anyone.
Fuck em
The Tories are Certainly Not the Voice of the Underdog
Better the Red Flag than Slavery and Oppression
Rob | May 8, 2015 at 4:11 pm | Reply
Even now it appears Miliband thinks the loss of seats in Scotland is down to nationalism but we all know its down to opposing austerity. If the SNP could have stood in all 650 seats in the UK they would have done a lot better than labour. They were saying before the election that the Tories and labour were too similar now they are saying that labour were too much to the left. The reality is that labour are not on the left and apart from opposing the bedroom tax they would have forced on us workfare and all the other plans the Tories will now force us to do to avoid sanctions.
Exactly.
Didn’t take long http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/hours-after-the-election-the-dwp-says-is-looking-to-cut-a-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html
when e-petitions is back up and running shortly there will be a similar petition started, i’m sure, in the meantime this has been going for a week, on change.org.
https://www.change.org/p/david-cameron-reform-our-voting-system-to-make-it-fair-and-representative-makeseatsmatchvotes
We have to think outside the box now.
Protesting is part of it but we have to do more because shouting convinces no one if they just think we’re whining about losing. It’s the very conversation we have to change. The right has controlled the terms of it for far too long.
At the moment it’s the government and the media controlling the conversation. The latter we can do something about. We have to stop giving our money to the right wing media and encourage others to do the same. Maybe a campaign to get people to not only stop buying the Sun etc but also to cancel their Sky subscriptions and stop buying books published by Harper Collins. Ditto the rest of the right wing press and related businesses.
By the same token – we need genuine alternatives to the right wing media – after all even the Mirror and Guardian are prone to slipping into the same rhetoric, so powerful is the neo-liberal hold on the conversation. We will have to build these ourselves and harder yet we will have to market them.
And finally I know this will be controversial but let’s not underestimate the possibility of using the Tory’s own games against themselves. We cannot morally leave people to starve because the government has abandoned them. Nor is it to our advantage to do such a thing, Cameron wants a Big Society to care so he doesn’t have to but should it ever materialize it might destroy him. People engaged with their communities are less likely to fall for the divisive shirker/worker rhetoric because their neighbours will be part of their “us” grouping and thus the attacks the government makes will become attacks on them, on their group, and not on the alien other. This is why the genuine Communitarians of the Right – and not fake ones like Cameron – don’t use the striver/skiver rhetoric. They know it’s crap. they just don’t like the Left’s solutions to the problems. We can think them wrong in that but we shouldn’t miss the fact that this is a group that can be splintered off the Tory base by the horror of what their party has become (similar to the Labour collapse in Scotland) even if they won’t flee Left the loss would hurt.
I do have more thoughts but this comment has already grown beyond reasonable measure, so I’ll leave off there.
Becky
becky
see the work of the indyscot movement it’s thriving…national newspaper, sunday herald, tvlivestream, RIC WfI, common weal etc…. http://bellacaledonia.org.uk/ don’t blame the media become the media….
I think you have made some great points, but sadly the power of corporations like Sky and McDonalds have a huge appeal. We do need alternatives, but it would be very hard to convince those who need to be convinced that they can be part of the change. Many, perhaps the majority want someone else to liberate them, ( yes, I know no-one can make them free, they have to do it themselves, but such is their enslavement…) and would run a mile rather than actually do something towards making things better for themselves and others.
Yes it will be hard. Very little that’s worthwhile is easy.
Maybe many people want someone to liberate them, but I also think many people would take other options if they saw them. The grassroots movements that grew into Syriza in Greece had a great role in easing the hardships of austerity there. We have to start in the same place and thanks to Greeks we know it’s possible.
And we don’t need to get everyone to boycott Murdoch and his ilk, just enough to hit them where it hurts.
We’ve lost but we have to hold our nerve and have hope, despair won’t help.
Another great comment!
Excellent comment Becky.
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Becoming the media is exactly what I mean by “We will have to build these ourselves and harder yet we will have to market them.” 🙂 But yeah the sort of energisation the indyref created in Scotland is what we somehow have to achieve in England
becky
we had a central cause, social justice was key, to unite us, strong sense of place (belonging) and community…fragmentation is the problem…some how one has to overcome that…people get/draw people together….
so social justice, anti austerity, it has to become a genuinely inclusive grassroots movement…..run events, invite speakers….
ie from RIC scotland, women for indy, common weal…we got the bug up here, it’s a collective craving from the saddened heart, it’s infectious, it burst out like combustion, a spark that ignites a flame, that things can be much better, than being dumped on… 🙂 once the fire was lit (eyes opened), no one could extinguish it…it has to challenge politicians, the audience totally clued up…and absolute focus on the core aim, social justice, being able to protest @ the meetings non-violently robust not anally retentive, alive passionate, common purpose, challenging… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf_PXB1OfqU a classic example…. other examples are the speeches of robin mcalpine, cat boyd….
No benefit, no disabled benefit, and now the nation has voted Tory, the Tory wives will find out they will get NIL STATE PENSION FOR LIFE next year.
Alongside all us plebs men and women with no other pension provision in life.
See why at end of my petition, in my WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT section, at:
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/state-pension-at-60-now
Share my petition widely, as this truth is also being hidden from the masses.
More about diminishing pensions on
http://www.,anastasia-england.me.uk
Signed & RTd your petition.
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The professional association that governs polling organisations is to launch a full inquiry into the inaccuracy of polling during the 2015 general election campaign.
The British Polling Council said it would look at an apparent “bias” in polls across the board which saw large disparities between the industry’s final snapshots of opinion and the real result on the night.
The Market Research Society, which concerns itself with survey standards in consumer research, will also be involved in the probe.
“The final opinion polls before the election were clearly not as accurate as we would like, and the fact that all the pollsters underestimated the Conservative lead over Labour suggests that the methods that were used should be subject to careful, independent investigation,” the Council said in a statement
link – above
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Personally i don’t get it, if everyone who had/has been affected by the cuts or workfare then if everyone voted Labour they should have made it . Instead the working classes choose to talk rather than act i voted as i do every time and yes i did vote for the reds. Today i saw my brother his company put him on a zero contract … I said did you vote yesterday… No he said they lie, cheat and don’t do anything they say they will..!!!! …Unfortunately this bunch of rich bastards will .
I voted red too for general and local. if you didnt vote then you can STFU when it comes to issues that affect you.
you had your chance and you decided to not vote, Shame on you.
we should make it compulsory to vote like they do down under in auz.
and all those incorrectly filed out ballot papers, if they all had an ID number on them you should be fined for filing it out incorrectly.
Electronic voting will be come reality soon, and as for that frucknig stupid race between to county’s to see who completes 1st whats the point in rushing the counting?
Compulsory voting is a very bad idea. Voting is at best a bit of a lottery, and is. by and large meaningless. As the Anarchists say, if it changed anything it’s be illegal.
The whole point about a secret ballot is that it is, er, secret, in that no-one should know how you voted, as that could lead to people being intimidated to vote in a particular way.
What kind of democrat are you? One of those authoritarian ones who would feel quite at home in the Tory party?
we need to change the way voting works its out dated and archaic, made for a 2 party system that had less of a population back then.
I will never vote tory even if im in a stable job.
True story about people and voting. We have a woman in our workplace who is slightly strange to be. Polite. She voted conservative even though she’s had JCP hassle in past. Why did she do that? Because a group of young people stopped her on street n told her vote labour!! I was so gobsmacked I couldn’t speak!!
When we vote in elections, our vote is not “secret”.
On the Polling Cards (usually bottom right) is a number, this is the Votor Number, it identifies you.
On the actual voting slip, this voter number appears, last election it was still there in numeric form.
This time, it’s a bar code.
In the UK, who individuals voted for, is not a secret, and never has been
we’re gona live with it, we have every right to complain… i couldn’t vote because i had other obligations *COUGH* mandatory jobcentre course… but even if i did, nothing would have changed, judging by how many seats conservatives and labour got… so why would my right to complain vanish?
if anything, the results only bolster the right to complain, as it all looks rigged, almost the same results as 5 years ago give or take because of new parties in the mix
@K.S. lol that’s why the polls are open from 7am to 10pm!
lot of good that does me now eh? i would have thrown my vote with anything but the 2 “leading” parties, the whole system is corrupt
Bullshit Jason- what, just because you didn’t vote you’re not allowed to complain? What about the fact that for most people, it’s not going to make a blind bit of difference whether they vote or not? At the very least, people are entitled to complain about a lack of credible options that are realistically going to get into power. At the end of the day your choices more or less amount to ‘Bunch of tossers number one’, ‘Bunch of tossers number two’ or ‘Bunch of tossers number three’.
I went to my polling station and was given papers for three different elections. One for which I could cast two votes. However there were only three candidates – two Conservative and one Green. I went with the Green because fuck Con/Lab/Lib
If only Labour would wake up. Scots don’t vote for the SNP because they’re nationalists but because they’re something like socialists, end of. Instead of taking notice , Labour are probably going to lurch off to the Right yet again 😦
They just wouldn’t listen! That’s the problem with Labour. They knew the mood of the Scots people but decided to largely ignore it. All they could spout was this ‘Hard working families’ BS. They came out said they were going to hit benefits harder than the Tories, said they ‘are not the party of benefits and don’t want to represent anyone on benefits’
They are a shambles. Have sold the ordinary person down the river in their never ending neo-liberal political dream where they cozy up to banks and massive corporations while shafting the poor.
Look where it got them.
Not really, the SNP is a bit of a mixed bag. Last night we had ex-leader of the SNP Gordon Wilson showing his face on the TV. The same Gordon Wilson who voted for the return of hanging – is that progressive?
When did this happen J(im) Murp(hy)? 1924? lol 😀
Jim, why on earth to you want to keep taking us back to 1924? 😀 😀
Hey Jim, being sponsored by Irn Bru or what?
Why else would you pull out a can of the stuff and start drinking it, just when you are about to be kicked out of your job. (And the world’s media have their camera’s rolling)
Jim you are a total chancer.
Come to think of it, what looked like a tacky ‘product placement’ – probably prohibited under broadcasters rules was an advert being filmed, expect to see Jim soon: “Even when yi are aboot tae lose yir seat, Irn Bru will see yi right :D”. Wonder how Jim got paid, it was so obvious the way he kept having a swig surrounded by a film crew.
Wilson is a far right-winger; his views on the death penalty make him more right-wing than Cameron: “[I]f someone murdered one of my children then emotionally, obviously I would want to kill them. How could you not? But there have been too many cases of things going wrong, of the wrong people being executed, of evidence coming to light after the execution, and sometimes there is just too much of an element of doubt. And I just don’t honestly think that in a civilised society like ours that you can have the death penalty any more.”
It’s like Tony Blair’s former chief adviser said: “I don’t believe the SNP are left-wing; they are both left-wing and right-wing at the same time”. So it is not inconceivable that there are MPs to the right of Cameron in the SNP or Ghengis Khan for that matter, in the mould of the ‘Red Tories’ who were unceremoniously kicked out of their seats.
i really didn;t think this would happen, but there again there are still to many rich bastards doing very well with these torries.
TOTAL VOTES:
Conservative Party………………11,334,920 (36.9%)
Labour Party…………………………9,344,328 (30.4%)
UK Independence Party……….. .3,881,129 (12.6%)
Liberal Democrats………………….2,415,888 (7.9%)
Scottish National Party……………1,454,436 (4.7%)
Green Party…………………………..1,154,562 (3.8%)
step
% which of course are also relevant to the no seats the parties fielded candidates ie the snp fielded 59 out of a possible 650…ukip fielded 624, lab 631, tories 647…. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2015#Candidates
What now Nicola?
mr
you can stop calling me nicola for a start…. 🙂
How about Nicky !!!
seriously though, keep a keen eye on them now….my feeling is they will do their very best to deliver…..they’ve done alright so far…i’ve seen nicola in several indyscot public meetings on youtube, as we all have, she came across as very genuine…incredible, down to earth, stamina/passion to answer all questions and engage..we were just not used to being regarded, politically…if that core regard vanishes then alarm bells ring…
SNP are going to have to be whiter than white, because I’m sure the media will be under orders to undermine them at every step.
Good luck to them – they’re standing for more than just Scotland now.
the snp are seasoned veterans @ campaigning to be in govt, being in government and fighting against the odds, together now with millions of scots and many millions of uk citizens….we are the media, 56 snp mp’s were elected against the tide of MSM subterfuge …. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBF8Iw4f0Io ian hamilton qc … freedom come all ye …
General Election: Highest turnout since 1997
Independent – 8th May 2015
As the final 30 seats are counted, the turnout for this year’s General Election has been calculated at 66 per cent.
This is an increase on the 2010 election, which saw 65 per cent of the population turning out to vote.
Voter turnout had, however, been expected to be higher this year, due to the close nature of this year’s race.
The number of people voting was the highest recorded since Tony Blair’s landslide victory in 1997, when 71.4% of the population voted.
Turnout has been particularly high in Scotland, with figures suggesting that 71.1% of the population headed to the polls – leading to significant gains for the SNP.
According to the British Election Study (BES), nearly 60 per cent of young people, aged 18-24, turned out to vote. YouGov had, however, previously suggested that nearly 69% of under-25s were “absolutely certain” to vote on 7 May.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/generalelection/general-election-2015-highest-turnout-since-1997-10235076.html
Seats by %
Conservative Party………(36.9%) 240
Labour Party………………(30.4%) 197
UK Independence Party… (12.6%) 82
Liberal Democrats…………(7.9%) 51
Scottish National Party……(4.7%) 31
Green Party………………. (3.8%) 25
Far from centre ground any of them.
Meaning right shut up & listen wing.
Fast track the welfare reform means mistakes which means cutting corners which means backlog which means admin failure. Nothing change there, still waiting for the JobCentre to get a lift fix after 3 years since the jobcentre is on the third floor. Let`s take the strairs away as well that will save money & cut costs.
Riot Squad :Fuck the Tories
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Right thing to do…
Wahts to say? The British electorate like being fucked up the arse by big business, preferably with construction grade pile driving machinery.
Frankly, I take the attitude now that favors are out the window and any tosser with a 100 grand motor in the drive is going to have to pay ‘Heavy’ for my time.
Its the only way to get your own back.
Nannies, plumbers, decorators, gardeners, even the ironing (person).
If its a rich barstard Tory tell em its £big money or fuck off. See how long it takes them to trawl illegal labour then drop the shits right in it.
@You guessed it, Too right, charge the Tory bastards LOADS OF MONEY, Its the only thing they understand. And they like paying CASH IN HAND!!
The “UKIP thing” is not funny. An equivalent left wing party would be supported by this blog. Indeed, Lab/Lib/Con refuse to hold an EU referendum and break all promises regarding it.
The Lib Dems losing everywhere for their deal with the Tories while the latter win a majority is the riddle.
I am still “gutted” about the election result – why did people vote for a party who wants to make people’s lives an absolute misery? Good luck with your march tomorrow.
at the moment northern ireland do not have bedroom tax,maximus atos benefits cap,i could go on…so now we will see is sturgeon gets the same deal for scotland,if she does,i for one will be livid,it will be blackmail to keep the union and all those in england on jsa dla esa etc will be hung out to dry,i saw this comming last year,we need to watch events develop im not a violent man but if push comes to shove i will be…johnny PLEASE keep an eye on the deals that will be done also an exit poll revealled more under 25,s than ever voted…torie probably spurred on by the likes of hopkins and the sun…but this time next year they will no be able to claim jas esa housing benefit and will be called up for “citizens service” cleaning the streets of graffiti etc like community service crims used to do then we will see how they feel about the tories also many were students so are sheltered from reality and soon they will leave college and BANG nothing no job no benefits no fuck all..if no parents its the street..these are dark days indeed
Great article!
Check out an article I posted yesterday – https://ideologyvisiondiscussion.wordpress.com/2015/05/08/what-will-likely-happen-now-the-conservatives-are-in-power-and-what-you-can-do/
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Johnny Void here urges people to join a demonstration against Tory Central Office today, organised by London Black Revs.
He argues that after the re-election yesterday of David Cameron’s Tories, after only 20 per cent of the British public voted for them, leaves mass demonstrations as the only alternative. The first past the post voting system means that the rich will always stay in power, while the Labour party has just seen the Blairites re-emerge, trying to argue that Labour should move further to the Right. That’s definitely the wrong direction, as the victory of the SNP showed that what actually catches votes is a reversal of Tory anti-welfare, privatisation policies.
Mr Void presents the case that the only effective opposition now comes from the victims of austerity – the poor, the disabled, the students, tenants and benefit claimants.
The kind of people, in other words, who formed the Podemos movement in Spain.
I hope that eventually the Labour party is able to muster some kind of resistance to Neo-Liberalism, however, small. But in the meantime I think the country should show that we are not taking Cameron’s putative victory, or his victimisation of the poor, weak and marginalised lying down. He’s in, but we should make him fight every step of the way.
!No Pasaran!
Lack of Common Sense and Musn’t Grumble Mentality
Still My Instinct tells me that something does Not Add up about the
Election Result when both Parties were Supposed to be Neck and
Neck
Protest Yes Slavery No
Donna Smith | May 9, 2015 at 3:36 am | Reply
I am still “gutted” about the election result – why did people vote for a party who wants to make people’s lives an absolute misery? Good luck with your march tomorrow.
Definitely something doesn’t add up! Either the polls were out to mislead deliberately in order to manipulate betting/financial markets – follow the money!! Or the polls were on the money and the result was rigged – again, follow the money!!
Burying the Head in the Sand is what let the Con Dems Get Away
with so much Nation Wrecking since May 2010 on the Part of
Millions too Many
We Need a Real Say in the Present and the Future
lol that’s why the polls are open from 7am to 10pm!
“To Hell With Capitalism: Snapshots from the Crab Cannery Ship”
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Zeljko-Cipris/4315/article.html
If the Election Result was Rigged it is a Outrage that the Country
Need’s to be Outraged about
Miss Marple | May 9, 2015 at 9:32 am | Reply
Definitely something doesn’t add up! Either the polls were out to mislead deliberately in order to manipulate betting/financial markets – follow the money!! Or the polls were on the money and the result was rigged – again, follow the money!!
at 10pm bbc anounced a torie landslide how? how come the bookies stopped taking bets on a ttorie win at 7pm? nothing can be done now but it stinks to high heaven gorgeous george leaked the exit poll results and has been questioned by the old bill why? does he know more
A lot of ‘traders’ (with advance ‘news’) will have taken ‘positions’ on the £ too. It fucking stinks!
Same goes for the spread-betting: a LOT of people have made a shed-load of cash on this!
🙂
noop
http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-polls-were-not-wrong/ ……
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If you cannot vote the bastards out then burn them out
NS spoke on r5live @ approx 11.10…no 1 priority is to end austerity….
part of NS speech for fa of the people of the UK….
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2015-32671743
Just realised, at 10 something Rumors started going round that Ed Balls had lost his seat.
Problem – the boxes of votes hadn’t even arrived.
Strange that.
How to throw an election pay Russell Brand a visit and construct your own tomb stone – did the Labour Party ever look serious about controlling the levers of power?
Labour Party a phoney opposition, SNP phoney Nationalists.
Strange that.
The 10th of May Mark’s the Anniversary of the Nazi’s Staging Massive Book
Burnings in 1933 AD .
Totalitarian Regimes like the Masses being Stupid and Ignorant which is why
State Political Repression in the United Kingdom Need’s to be Opposed
Freedom of Speech Press and Assembly on Political Matters
Great Britain Need’s a Political Revolution For Social Justice Not
Slavery
They have played a blinder and manipulated ge2015, all together now everyone pretend to be shocked and surprised at the outcome.
The SNP are at the end of the progressive path there is nowhere for them to go other than making a deal with the Devil at the crossroads.
It is all just a load of shite. And that Mhairi Black really needs to change the record. She gives the same answer to every question. Except when that smarmy fucker on Sky Adam Boulton got her on the ropes and she came back with: “Sorry, I don’t understand the question”. Once the ‘honeymoon’ period is over these fuckers are going to roast wee Mhairi. Boulton was getting under her skin, and a la Wee Nicola it was obvious that Mhairi was beginning to lose it – God help her if wind-up Eddie Mair gets a hold of her. Also, she has to stop the “fighting” talk – this is just straight out of a uni politics book. At the end of day, like ALL politicians, Mhairi is just another self-serving, CV-enhancing careerist. And no doubt she will be booted to Kingdom Come a la Jo Swinson when the electorate get fed up with her and her “fighting” talk.
——— wind-up merchant Eddie Mair
rev
judge her on her record as an mp, not pop MSM sensationalist sound byte, quiz shows…
If Mhairi ever ‘makes the difficult decision to ‘vote with the Tories’ to support IDS and any more barbarism that he introduces she will be electoral toast.
Mhairi claims to be ‘working class’; this is based on her assertion that she ‘has toured deprived areas’, therefore Mhairi’s only real experience of being ‘working-class’ is as a tourist. Her father is also a teacher, hardly a ‘working-class’ occupation. Add to this that we have Mhairi attending Glasgow University which is known as the Oxbridge of the North. And above all there is no way a ‘working-class’ lassie would rise to this position – she would have been pushed away by one of the sharp-elbowed middle-classes (of which Mhairi obviously is) – think Jo Swinson – because that is the way it works. And finally, that ‘working-class’ accent she uses is completely phoney, think about it she has been attending a toff’s university for the past 4 years, it just wouldn’t be possible to hold on to this ridiculous-sounding ‘schemie’ accent, and having overheard Mhairi speaking ‘off-stage’ at a demo I can attest to the fact that speaking in her ‘real’ voice she is indistinguishable from Jo Swninson.
… just a tad posher sounding.
holmes
their accents are totally different jo is ‘rifkind’ edinburgh type, mhairi’s is upper working class glaswegian…ie posher than sheridan’s…
in fact jo was born in bath….!!!
Or is it just to make him ‘distinct, something the ‘voters’ can relate to.
Is Tommy Sheridan’s accent really an authentic accent – do lower-working class Glaswegians shout SOLIDARITY! all the time lol
Or is it just to make him ‘distinct, something the voters can ‘relate’ to. Anyway, Tommy is a proven con-artist and convicted criminal.
The Margo Mobile campaign, going into some of the most deprived areas in the country. It was here that I witnessed first hand the level of poverty and injustice prevalent in our society.
Gives new meaning to benefits tourism maybe VisitScotland should market Margo Mobile Tours.
obd
There you go – bet both Mhairi’s parents are teachers or some other profession. And there is no way teachers live in a cooncil scheme. Bet Mhairi has never wanted for anything. Bet she has been given every life opportunity. It is always the same ‘types’ that rise to the top. We are always given a bullcrap ‘back-story’ that we fall for hook, line and sinker. It is to give us the illusion of an egalitarian society – as if! I don’t think Margo’s Bullshit Mobile Tour of Housing schemes counts as having experienced deprivation first-hand any more than Iain Duncan Smith’s Bullshit Tour of Easterhouse.
obd
own up – you’ve been had!
obd
Look at how many applications there were (5000) or something for a store assistant at Aldi – thousands of jobseekers queuing and camping out in the freezing snow. Then think how throat-slitting fierce the competition must be to be selected for an £80,000 + expenses job as an MP!
At least you know where you are with those toffs Cameron and Osborne – it is not that they try and hide their privileged background, but running a ‘relate to the voters’ campaign or whatever it was called complete with phoney accents is taking the piss. I thing David Tennant (Dr Who) hails form the same general geographical neck of the woods as Mhairi allegedly.
Scottish egalitarianism is the biggest deception ever perpetrated against a people by their professional class.
Exactly Mr R – there is no such thing!
billy
no more than you, eh! chuck ‘waking the tiger’ away, you could always weld it into the ships bilge….i have never said she didn’t want for anything, she wasn’t brought up in the gorbels, but paisley, if i remember correctly…. …i’ve no idea what her life story is, she sounds genuine to me, she thinks she’s strongly connected to working class roots, sounds it to me…give her a chance @ least….tell me i’m deluded in 12mths time….
granted jim sillars hasn’t much idea of the type of deprivation that welfare claimants suffer today, but he knows suffering, for sure….
p s there were 1500+ in a Q for 40 jobs…
We’ve seen it all before with MPs trying to give the impression that they live in a ‘rough’ area of town when in actual fact they live in the posh end of town.
watch “the scheme” on youtube before its removed a real gritty look at the real scottish poverty the good folk in it will be devestated like the good folk of england seriouly watch it..its heartbreaking but true
They keep the poor poor, and use them as a power base to feed off of to maintain their cushy life-styles.
🙂
It is more than likely that Mharia is just a middle-class kid who has found a niche, spotted an opportunity; basically using the poor to further her career, feather her nest and earn a lot of bucks. Despite her protestations that she “wouldn’t want to make a career out of being a politician”, she is positioning herself to step into Nicola Sturgeon’s high-heels. Just look at Alex Salmond, he has made a good living as a ‘career politician’.
Labour Party to spend the next 1000 years aimlessly wandering in the wilderness in search of lost principles.
Anyone for a fringe party?
I see that one of you workshy cunts desecrated a war memorial. Hope you’re fucking proud of yourselves. I also hope that your scroungers’ welfare is cut even more.
Desecrated a war memorial – would that cunt be IDS desecrating the war memorial that was social security for all British heroes?
How do you know it wasnt done to try to get the people saying how bad.. no police or government would set up a scapegoat to discredit a protest..
that couldnt happen could it…
The majority of people on this blog have paid tax all their working lives – as have I, I can assure you that if something happens to my current position and I am referred to jcp and I am told I cannot receive jobseekers allowance I will be demanding all my national insurance contributions are repaid to me in full. I absolutely refuse to keep paying into a system that does not pay out – Bismark and Stallin come to mind!!!!!
Don’t feed the Tory troll, guys. Hopefully he’ll slink back under his bridge.
WordPress’ crazy system putting comments out of order. My remark is aimed at “Tax Payer”
tax
‘land fit for hero’s’…the desecration of the most powerful war memorial ever created, is taking place and you’ve not even noticed…the welfare state…
here is prof allyson pollock presentation of how it’s being done…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz5dl9fhj7o i’m old enough to remember people who went through ww1 & 2….my parents, in laws, grand parents, uncles and aunties, cousins, great grandparents et al….as harry patch said, ‘war is organised slaughter…’, nothing glorious about it @ all….my father was an RE, an in law @ dunkirk, i knew people who fought in burma…
i remember don’t need no stones to remind me of the horrors of war, nor should anyone else, just 2 mins silence for my tears, once a year, not the theme park it is now…
@Tax Payer, I am Spartacus.
Labour is to blame. Surely. The Tories increased their vote by 0.8% (nothing) and got 25 more seats. Labour increased their share of the vote by 1.4% (virtually nothing) and were down 24 seats. Apart from Labour buggering up in Scotland because they have essentially Tory policies, the main reason for this absurd Tory majority on only a marginal increase in votes, is that all the votes which this time didn’t go to the Lib Dems were divided up between other non-Tory parties plus UKIP, and this meant, by default, that in enough constituencies from second-place in 2010 the Tories moved up a slot to take the seat. Really, if Labour weren’t corporate sycophants many of those Lib Dem votes would have gone to them and prevented a Tory majority.
Am I wrong?
In effect, a lot of Lib Dem voters from 2010 were pissed off with their party supporting austerity and the Tories, but by not voting for them (rightly so) they end up with more Tory austerity and vindictiveness. Madness.
I am not looking forward to the next five years.
Tony Blair’s former chief adviser made an interesting comment: “I don’t believe the SNP are left-wing; they are both left-wing and right-wing at the same time”.
Murky entryists fronting as Scottish nationalists.
billy
you support oxbridge toff blair…which edinburgh school did he go to again….??
No, I just quoted something his former chief advisor said about the SNP.
and which school did his ‘chief adviser’ got to, then….? and who was it….?
It was Fettes College in Edinburgh that Blair attended, no idea about his former chief adviser though.
billy
who was his former chief advisor…?
obd
Can’t remember – it was on the election night coverage. Think it is still being repeated over and over on BBC Parlaiment if you want to check it out.
billy
have you discovered the name of your blairite non toff former chief advisor yet…? there can’t be that many surely…? kier hardie started work @ 7, i suppose he come from a privileged background as well….? quoting toffs to put the SNP down, will not do…. like it or not the SNP and the yes movement shone through, coz of it’s deep belief in the building of healthy vibrant communities, and therefore a passion for social justice, where every ones voice counts..which @ root is reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life for all, then everyone thrives and therefore politicians no longer have any destructive power, which creates dependence…the indyscot movement is for emotional indy of body, mind, and soul…the opposite of emotional dependence on others …the idea is to make them all redundant and that we all participate (have a voice in) in making administrative decisions..this is the reason why the snp have over 110000 members and rising…why the ssp’s and sgreen membership has increased, coz we feel our voices now count for something….by using the most powerful word in the world ‘NO! you will not bribe me/abuse me by withholding my natural rights, and therefore you will not have power over them either…’
ATD vid… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkM1IxqjSXM
Don’t think the Scotch have any ‘security of the vitals of life’ whilst they still have abominations such as ‘Working Links’ offices on Scottish soil.
scotch is an alcoholic drink that many, including scots, enjoy…it’s a goal or we wouldn’t be fighting ‘for’ reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life for all people….
“Celebrating” the new Gov. in Lundon.
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If the Tories aren’t brought down before long, the first cold snap of the winter could result in insurrection giving the number of those cold and starving, Duncan Smith would need more than just his armed goons to protect him.
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on a local radio station people talked polltax type riots well it isnt goint to happen…remember 4 years ago..kids banged up fot taking an argos catalogue and a bottle of water,the paras have been training in riot control cctv watching evrymove social media will be being monitored as i type and dont forget legions of g4s goons who would join the party
Post election, I think it’s going to be a long five years:
nonetheless, I believe there’s going to be a fight back unlike that seen for many years in the UK and it won’t be about a minority race/religion, a specific union, unemployed, disabled, etc
I believe all but the most privileged will take to the streets in rebellion, because after all:
“The most dangerous creation of any society is the man who has nothing to lose.”
James A. Baldwin
Think Syrzia, think Podemos, think the growing protest movements in the USA that have emerged from the Occupy movement.
If you’re in work, or even if you’re not, think about joining the IWW or SolFed if you’re considering joining a real union that will have your interests at heart, because you would be that union instead of some overpaid bureaucrat,
Be part of the resistance, be part of the fightback.
On the front of the Sunday papers there a repelant picture of Cameron….feasting…cooking up a huge pan of no dout the finest food…gloteing all the while people in this sad pitifull country starve I could go on but I’m feeling drained though I loved being on the anti toroe march yesturday …great..
When I went to the job centre to sign the other day I was totaff ld to research Community Work Placements by my work coach. The future doesn’t look good. Most of the job centre staff were happy doing nothing apart from chatting and laughing. I did have a look online and in my area I found that Working links are into Community Work Placements. After two years on the work programme with them it appears I could end up back in their clutches.
That should read “told to research Community Work Placements.”
Most of the job centre staff were happy doing nothing apart from chatting and laughing.
Chatting about their clients, spreading the claimants business all over town and laughing at the arbitrary powers they have over claimants.
Work Coach scum.
‘Working Links’ are the lowest of the low – pure, unadulterated fucking SCUM!!
Working Links are the shit stains on the underpants of life. Lower than the shit flowing through the sewers.
Nicola Sturgeon – Speaking to the BBC’s Andrew Marr programme, Ms Sturgeon said Mr Cameron did not appear to want to move beyond powers already outlined in the Smith Commission.
No point in sending the 56 to Westminster only to be progressive stooges despised by both sides of the House of Commons.
The Gravy Train continues on the Fat ‘give me my expenses’ Alex Salmond at his rag-tag band of careerist stooges.
Wee Nicola did make that remark: “I would prefer to see David Cameron back in power”. Her denials were about as convincing as superhero and monolith obsessive Milliand lisping: “I will never do a deal with the SNP – Hell, I’m tough!” And Wee Nicola will be smirking that she has got what wanted and set out to achieve all along – Cameron back in power! Now she can sit back, shout about “progressive politics” laugh and admire her ‘dashing hero’ as he wields his axe on the poorest and most vulnerable in our society. The poor and disadvantaged will continue to suffer as the parcel o’ rogues continue on partying – on expenses!. It is sickening and enough to make you take to the streets!
Are the “progressive politics” of the SNP strategically bankrupt, if not a trick of political deception orchestrated against the Scottish people – wet nationalists pissing their “progressive” pants at Westminster.
wee
what a distraction….yep it could be true….but for one thing the tories were always going to get back into power….lab trying to out tory the tories was never going to work…lab should have supported indyscot…now we can all rue the day they didn’t….the indyscotref was always going to finish the uk off and it has, get over it….
http://wingsoverscotland.com/seeing-it-coming-a-mile-off/
typo; the indyscotref was always going to finish labour off, as being the same as the tories, it has, get over it…the people of r.uk saw labour as imitation tories….
lol most of you will have to get a job now like the rest of us the easy rides over folks welcome to the real world how you can exist as thats what it is on 70 quid a week is beyond me my food shop alone for a week is 360/70 quid There are jobs out there!
Really? Are there real jobs out there? For how long? Think you’re safe? How long until you are made redundant due to the coming economic crash caused by yet another financial crisis because neo-liberal economic illiteracy and replaced by someone on Workfare or Community Work Placement?
There are some 4.25 billion unemployed people, all told, and only around three-quarters of a million job vacancies, do the sums… Oh, you’re a neo-liberal imbecile, who can’t do sums, just like that idiot Osborne.
The pitchforks are coming…
Just looked on a leading recruitment site, and in less than five Minutes seen about a 1000 positions whiten a 5 mile radius i would rather clean up peoples shit than be reliant on the sate I won’t be getting made redundant anytime soon either as I’m self employed lol all them protesting yesterday look unwashed and unkept go on about having no dosh yet most of them was filming it on the latest I phones, lol the irony
An illiterate idiot wrote:
Just looked on a leading recruitment site, and in less than five Minutes seen about a 1000 positions whiten a 5 mile radius
Every idiot knows that 90% of the “positions listed” are just marketing companies collecting names, addresses and phone numbers.
Yes Jimmy the Barber………….until you have a stroke or heart attack. Don’t think it won’t happen to you – it CAN. Then what will happen to you – no benefits, no NHS? By the way Jimmy the Barber: “five Minutes seen about a 1000 positions whiten a 5 mile radius” Good on you, there must be some demand for barbers in your area. On the other hand I’m a qualified electronics engineer and when I checked my local “workfare to work” parasite’s website – nothing for me within 30 miles. Fortunately I’m retired and was checking for some part-time work to keep me occupied. God help those who really need a job.
BTW Jimmy the Barber – I wear a No.1 buzz-cut that I do myself. My local barber sported a “Vote Labour” in his window.
An idiot wrote:
There are jobs out there!
That’s the problem isn’t it, the jobs are always just “out there” somewhere.
Where exactly, outer space?
The real beginning of a One Party State in England and Wales – based on a party getting only 35% of the vote but given 100% of the power – these are not good times – the suicide rate is set to escalate
And what about Labour? – well they weren’t in opposition for the last 5 years so there’s no change there as Bliar raises his ugly head again – is this the end of times?
jeremy
it’s been a one party state since 1979……
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The mood is changeing ,people are not to be fucked with I’ve just wsyched some of the foul white yuppies who have been pileing into shepards bush …lol they got slapped up…by the local youths ..good..good
People, it ain’t over. A bye-election or two could bring down this rump government.
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178,000 and couting
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Hands up who’s doing 5 hours jobsearch this sunny Sunday afternoon? Go fuck yourself IDS.
We often discuss the 35 hr js right on here, and on
here; https://intensiveactivity.wordpress.com/?s=35+hour
You’re right, if you JS every day it’s very difficult to do 5hrs every day, especially on a sunday or bank holiday. You just see the same fake job postings over and over.
I jobsearch for 8 hours everyday, and I’m thinking of increasing it up to
18 hours per day to increase my chances. 🙂
http://automation.strikenow.org.uk/spread-the-word
How do they know you’re doing the 5 hours? Why can’t you just say you did it? How can you spend 5 hours looking online for jobs? That’s unreal.
Raining, Just tell the TRUTH. Fill in your booklet/ paper and write a response, such as, ‘this was a scam job’, ‘the employer has not got back to me’ ‘the company does not exist’ , company said that they have not advertised jobs. Better still, print off loads of CVs and hand them out in your local shops/business centre and take one of their complimentary cards to give as evidence. Fuck em. They cannot argue with the truth.
Go fuck yourself jimmy the barber…….cunt
Get a Job instead of existing on 70 quid a week lol spend that on a Sunday on a carvery for the Mrs nd kids
Jimmy the fibber
Why do you keep saying 70 quid a week. Don’t you know we get everything paid for, free food from the foodbank and £350 a week in our hands to spend anyhow we like, don’t you read the Daily Mail?
Last time Jimmy the fibber posted he was a multimillionaire builder whose wife ‘had beaten cancer’.
@Jimmy the B……Good on you, you have a wife and kids to take care of and £70 a week don’t go far. does it? In any recession we will always need a hair cut. If the unemployed start cutting their own hair, you could always become a 21st century Sweeny Todd. Where did you say you Barbers was?