Labour And The Tories, Not Just Fucking Wankers But Fucking Idiots Too

idiots

Only a bunch of spivs and two-bit confidence tricksters like the current Tory front bench could have come up with a reckless get rich quick policy like extending right-to-buy to housing associaion properties.

Handing a small number of tenants a huge tax-payer funded give away whilst decimating the supply of desperately needed genuinely affordable housing is quite possibly the single most stupid fucking thing that any politicans could do in the midst of an escalating housing crisis.  And there is some stiff competition. Labour’s policies to build more homes no-one can afford or introduce regional benefit caps so no-one can pay their rent are equally fucking stupid.

A further cap on housing benefits will only lead to yet more homelessness and both parties want it.  The truth about the benefit cap that has already been introduced is that many people’s benefits haven’t been capped – their housing costs are simply being paid via the council and Discretionary Housing Payments.  It will only be after the election – whoever wins – that we will see the devastating impact of families with children socially cleansed from more affluent cities and forced into areas already scarred by poverty and unemployment.

On workfare both parties are proposing policies which are unworkable in practice – with Labour taking the lead in attacking the young who will lose benefits completely unless they undertake forced ‘training’ (stop laughing they mean workfare).  The Tories have said this will not happen until someone has been on benefits for six months, when they will then be bullied into workfare, or a shoddy unpaid Traineeship.  But they will stop their Housing Benefit.  Probably, in some cases.  Labour have not even bothered to say whether scrapping benefits for those under 21 means they will stop their Housing Benefit as well.

Where all these workfare placements will come from nobody knows.  Already there is a desperate shortage as growing numbers of charities reject forced unpaid work completely.  The amount of unpaid work experience on Traineeships was recently reduced after even businesses said it was unfair to make young people work too long without a wage. The only people who actually want workfare are fucking idiots like Cameron and Miliband who are both obesessed with the idea.  It’s hardly surprising, neither of them has ever done a real day’s work in their lives.  They want us to work for free whilst they do fuck all and earn a fortune.

Even Labour’s so-called Compulsory Jobs Guarantee isn’t a proper job.  Instead it will include ten hours a week unpaid workfare with the rest of the time on a tax-payer funded minimum wage. It’s just a huge subsidy so employers can get free workers, and looks a lot like Nick Cleggs disastrous subsidised employment scheme that was recently scrapped for being both shit and probably illegal.

It is hardly surprising that a Hamspstead clown like Miliband and a Chipping Norton toff like Cameron have policies so similar you could barely fit a fag paper between them.  They have far more in common with each other’s pampered lives than they do with most normal people.  Neither of them would last five minutes in a debate about politics in their local Wetherspoon. And when Cameron was given a well deserved kicking round the pub car park, Miliband would be chucking up in the bogs after one too many bacon sandwiches.

There are other, better, ways of being politically active then voting for some fucking idiot who hates you once every five years.  Across the UK people will be taking direct political action in the run up to the election.  Tomorrow (15th April) sees a March for the Homeless taking place in cities throughout the England and Scotland whilst a Day of Action for Fast Food Worker’s Rights will see protests outside McDonalds.  Later in the month Disabled People Against Cuts will be visiting the constituencies of both Iain Duncan Smith and Esther McVey.  Boycott Workfare are holding a week of action against unpaid work and sanctions from the 25th April, the same day that an anti-gentrification protest will take place in Brixton.  And on May 1st Class War will be holding a fuck parade, complete with 12 volt soundsystems outside the notorious poor doors at 1 Commercial Street, London E1.

Change will not come from the ballot box, that is the point of them.  Whichever twat you vote for, if you can be bothered to vote at all, get out on the streets and let’s make sure the fucking lot of them know we don’t need or want their shit anymore.

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131 responses to “Labour And The Tories, Not Just Fucking Wankers But Fucking Idiots Too

  1. Labour is Not as Socialist as it should be because of too Much
    Neo Liberal Domination of Politics and Economics and Obivously
    the 18 Tragic Years of Tory Government between 1979 to
    1997 AD. In 1983 AD the British Nation and People had a
    Chance to have a Socialist Government under Michael Foot

    which would of Restored British Sovereignty.

    Sadly they Voted For Jezebel Margaret Thatcher in England who pushed
    the Single European Act of 1986 AD During her Tyrannical Regime
    and in 1992 AD when afterwards the Tories Pushed the Maastricht Treaty
    without a Referendum

    The Tories getting back in because of a ” Cannot be Bothered to
    Vote Mentality in England will Only Worsen Things For the Poor
    and Vulnerable and Inflict Neo Liberalism Further upon this
    Country

    Britain Need Social Justice Not Slavery or SNP Separatism to be
    Great

    • overburdenddonkey

      i still believe in voting, but i @ root believe in individual resistance and action that will rise into collective action and establish once and for all our guaranteed rights to the reliable supplies of vitality giving vitals of life…after that people, ping shit @ the moon for all i care…

  2. HOMES FOR VOTES SCANDAL. It’s called gerrymandering

    Been there done it before. Total disaster so guess what? They do it again.

  3. Another Fine Mess

    Liebour are now offering manditory guaranteed jobs for ALL.

    There will be a guaranteed, paid job for all young people who have been out of work for one year, and for all those over 25 years old and out of work for two years. It will be a job that they have to take, or lose their benefits.

    Nick Clogg is offering £1,500 as deposit on a house, – doesn’t even cover the cost of the paperwork!

    Err. hosuing associaion + politically active then/than

    • No more than cheap labour scheme I fear. Jobs market outside zero hours over minimum wage will crash. Labour say minimum wages equals no income tax? They’ll still have our crust from us via cuts in housing benefit.

  4. overburdenddonkey

    bob
    it all started for sure in 1979, and certainly moving towards that prior to victorian times…
    1st i was a socialist…then i bought my council house….now there are 5m on the waiting list…millions homeless…right wing voter pool expanded…protecting house prices @ all costs….houses deliberately kept in short supply…right wing inflation offset sink…http://www.snp.org/media-centre/news/2011/feb/5000-new-council-homes-pledged-under-snp in 2012 the snp built 14800 new houses, and have also ended the right to buy…
    between 1997/2007 labour in scotland built 6 council houses…
    the snp have pledged to rid the HoL, that alone is worth my vote…the obvious problem then is an elected 2nd chamber!
    ultimately jv is right the only effective changes come from within, and from there what we’re willing to put up with…. feeling make word…statues cannot work unless people consent to them…only a few laws, ie regarding which side of the road we drive on, raise no concerns…

    • between 1997/2007 labour in scotland built 6 council houses…

      How many did they demolish … edinburgh city centre is stuffed with new builds for rich foreign students – locals are being pushed out of the city centre.

      zero contract masochism – some are accepting that and the minimum wage as some kind of romantic social norm.

    • The Crash Test Dummies

      lol obd I think which side of the road we drive on is something we all have to agree on😀

  5. Vote for CLASS WAR!!

    SOAK THE RICH!!

    DOUBLE DOLE AND PENSION

    • Conservative Party tax giveaways would benefit the rich ten times more than low-income working families, according to new research published today.

      Figures compiled by the Trade Union Congress (TUC) show that higher-earners will be the biggest winners from ‘unfunded’ Tory tax cuts, while the lowest-paid would receive only very modest gains.

      The damning research counters claims made by David Cameron earlier this week that the Tories are the “party of the working class”.

      TUC looked at the average impact of tax proposals outlined in the Tories general election manifesto across a varying range of income scales. They found that the poorest would be no better off, while the second poorest would only get an extra £2 a year. This is in sharp contrast to richer households, who would benefit to the average tune of an extra £875 a year.

      http://www.welfareweekly.com/tory-tax-con-benefits-rich-more-than-the-working-poor-says-tuc/

  6. Eating cake as instructed

    Never in forty years have I struggled deciding who to vote for. There’s little significant difference in policies aimed at kicking the sick old disabled unemployed yet the captains of industry expect to continue to live off our sweat and misery many unable to afford a funeral at the end. In stockport paupers are now cremated as all public graves are full, liars. Land is available for those preferring burial for religious reasons but they won’t profit. A further 12b of cuts to DWP benefits will decimate local area trade as poor people by default spend locally.

  7. It seems to me that we all need to wake up to the fact as to how this government and their out of control Rottweiler ATOS etc., and there cowered rubber stamping Decision Makers at the DWP are mistreating ill and disabled people. (Sorry out of work benefit disabled workless and all that crap). Welfare reform has now, by governmental deceit and its ideological hidden eugenic agenda is in danger become one of the worst examples hate crime inflicted on, not just the disabled but also anyone who may become ill or disabled in the future.
    If we just listen to spin, dribble and Hyperbole gleaned, cut and pasted from an unelected un-mandated government press office then release and published in some politically motivated newspapers we are in danger of denying that illness and disability exist. We need to wake up to the fact we are becoming a nation that has forgotten to talk of the people, but who instead listen the ideology.
    People’s hatred of ATOS Healthcare’s Work Capability Examination process has been criticised by some whom because of their own political dogma or press deionisation choose not to believe the well documented and collaborated evidence from the ill and disabled experiences. They choose to understand or fail to mention how this ATOS comes to a decision on those who are unfortunate enough to become ill or disabled. Can its random and inconsistent computer generated decision be fair? Would anyone expect or allow a decision on their health from their GP to be made this way. Would we applaud that equally as well? I think not.
    We need to remember that history tells us that the persecution and cleansing of one group in society is only the thin end of a divisive wedge and won’t stop with the ill and disabled unless United Kingdom people power stops it right now. The so called free press could be next as extreme regulation looks more than likely with the outcome of the Hutton report. Type any old drivel into an ATOS terminal, usually about benefit fraud into your specially installed ATOS office terminal and wait for a decision on its content and permission to publish could be next

    Quotes of “Hysterical” and “absurd” being used to describe the people’s reactions to the ATOS Work Capability Examination process and describing how Cameron and his cabinet are “painted as reactionary demagogues”. This is what can be expected from a cabinet of out of touch millionaires who can only see one way to cut costs. It used to be pink flying pigs that old fart politicians saw but now it seems in this young brave new ConDem world it only sees pound signs.
    In the name of unelected government’s dogma and hiding behind the budget deficit a pittance will be saved when compared to the spending on lethal weaponry to kill a handful of Afghan terrorists and 100 times more men, women and children.
    I note that most of the press fail to report the numbers of suicides and premature wholly avoidable deaths in their articles on how well the government is doing in reducing the number of people claiming sickness related benefits, while assuming the reduction is related to people how have be miraculously been cured of their illnesses and disability’s.
    Physical abuse and mental torture that is now inflicted on a daily basis upon anyone who dares to become ill. The numbers of people who choose to leave the human race by their own hand because of unjust and woefully wrong decisions about their conditions are a national disgrace. They have become an embarrassment to our Government task masters, routinely discredited or just ignored up to highest level.
    Wholly avoidable Psychiatric Injury’s inflicted by this Governments flawed dogmatic ideology inflicted on disabled and mentally ill’, leave psychological scars that cannot be seen and are near impossible to heal. Deliberately injuring ill people further by making flawed and heavily weighted decisions in favour of denial of benefit that are unjust, and on appeal are overturned makes no sense economically or morally. This therefore can only be seen as an attempt to inflict unusual and cruel forms of punishments for become ill or disabled by governmental choice.
    When faced with a DWP unjust decision many disabled and ill now feel that they aren’t believed and that’s the thing that hurts the most. With the well-worn platitudes of Cameron and the rest of the ConDemn Government ringing in their ears, they take the decision that I believe this morally bankrupt government with its eugenic agenda have planned for all along. Forced to live in object poverty until the end of their days, by a misplaced sense of shame or humiliation or by giving up and killing themselves. What a wonderful land we have the misfortune to live in. what a putrid legacy we leave to the next generation if we allow this to happen.
    Now onto your real grip of our unelected masters, the good old whip hand cry of;
    “Look Out He’s In A Wheelchair, He Has A Vacant Look He Must Be Mad, On Drugs Or Drunk. Next He Will Be Inside Our Pockets Looking for “Our Hard Earned Worked For Money”. Let’s Put Him In A Place Where We Will Be Safe From Him. He May Even Die If We Treat Him badly enough, That Will Treat Him a Lesson He Won’t Forget”
    Governments opinion of the mentally ill is a disgrace. Their words by implying that they are the biggest group and responsible for the largest proportion of benefit fraud trivialising their condition and is entirely offensive and hateful.
    Saying that campaign groups estimates of 0.5 % is bogus figure for benefit fraud is outrageous. Come on Mr. Cameron it seems that you know, what are the real figures then? Did your ConDem government press office forget to include them or just pluck them out of fresh air? Who are they as representatives of a corrupt press that is currently in the dock for fraud and phone hacking to be believed by anyone?
    You call campaign groups “Anti-reform” dead right they are. Their one and only goal is and has always been for a fair and compassionate reform that has no connections to deficit reductions or fiscal management. To quote you “Nothing more, nothing less”.
    I truly believe that that this unelected immoral government will be in years to come be will be judged to be one of the worst purveyors of eugenics ideology and the cleansing of the ill and disabled. They will be brought to account for their hate crimes against anyone who they deemed to be less than perfect and unable to contribute to the coffers of the rich ruling classes.
    Bringing the question of lawful euthanasia to the high court has opened up the debate on how the disabled see themselves and what rights they have over their own existence. In a civilised society those unfortunate enough to suffer from physical and mental illnesses are treated with compassion and dignity they deserve. Provision is made to look after them from the cradle to the grave if necessary and the best of excellence in healthcare is freely available to all.

    Why are lifesaving treatments and drugs now regularly refused on the ground of cost and likely mortality? Is this overt attempt to encourage ill and disabled to “Do the right thing” for the betterment of. (Yawn) “Hard working employed economically active families”. Is it encouragement to “Do the right thing” check out of this hell hole that this country and disembowel health and welfare services has become. Assessing the disabled fit for work or work related activity when they have well documented mental or physical conditions assessed by a qualified and compassionate doctor and specialists, on the say so of an ATOS computer programme heavily weighted against a just and proper decision, then rubber stamped by a cowered Decision Makers fearful for the own jobs is the worst Orwellian nightmares imaginable.
    If we allow this happen we are all dammed to a life that demands nothing but perfection and unequal class uniformity. In the past the United Kingdom was set apart from other despot governments by virtue of the help and support it gave to ill disabled and unemployed. Now in this government’s perfect utopian world our unelected coalition has decided that without a clear mandate from the country this is not the way forward. Is it now looking for “A final solution” for all disabled and the ill by denial and withdrawal of welfare benefits. As the disabled and ill fail to meet the capitalist value for money ideology will they will be sacrificed on the altar of pure dogmatic greed. Will we soon be doomed by this unelected government to a life of hard labour until we drop dead?
    If we are come on Mr. Cameron, IDS and the rest of you well healed public school boys, Get out the pens and calculators start legislating for the next logical step, the letting of the contracts for ATOS Healthcare (what a benevolent, kind and humanitarian name for a company) to provide termination chambers on a street corner near you for the disabled, ill and unemployed to “Do the right thing”. We could even use solar and wind to power them and use their ashes to fertilise the back garden of number 10. Oh what Joy and wonderment that would bring to the ConDem’s.
    Start the task and publicity now and maybe you can continue to pit even more people against each other with your eugenic flawed ideology. You must be very proud of what you have achieved so far as it’s certainly working well with disability hate crimes and suicide numbers increasing day by day.
    But remember when you get to hell as this is certainly where this government heading, remember to tell Hitler and the rest of the world scum that more or less had the same ideology that it was “The right thing to do” for the benefit of “Hard working, tax paying family’s.
    Tommaz Jay.
    Ashamed To Be Born Into This Unjust And Putrid Land That Long Ago Used To Belonged To The Good, Kind And The Free.

    • “TORY SAYS MENTALLY DISABLED SHOULD WEAR A WRISTBAND”

      A Tory parliamentary candidate has sparked outrage after claiming mental health patients should wear wristbands to identify their conditions.

      Cambridge candidate Chamali Fernando was speaking at a hustings event hosted by the campaign group Keep Our NHS Public when she made the comment.

      She said wearing wristbands indicating the nature of the person’s condition would be helpful to professionals as they often could not explain themselves.

      ………………………………..ZYKLON B IS ONLY ONE STEP AWAY FROM THE MINDSET OF THESE TORY BASTARDS……….

      http://cambridge.tab.co.uk/2015/04/13/mental-health-conditions-wear-wristbands-says-tory-candidate-cambridge/

        • “UK HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE RIGHT TO A FAIR TRIAL”

          “YOU MUST BE FUCKING JOKING, THE DWP AND HER MAJESTYS POWDERED WIG BRIGADE INVENT THE LAW TO STARVE, PUNISH AND KILL THOSE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LADDER AND THOSE HAVING A DISABILITY”

          ……………………PARASITES THAT FEED ON HUMAN MISERY THAT THEY INFLICT ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS.

          From: Colin Lindley

          7 April 2015

          Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
          when a claimants benefit is terminated & is receiving no benefit
          until outcome of
          appeal is determined does the department have any responsibility
          regarding their
          decisions on right to any benefit income during this process & the
          effects on that claimants ability & Legal right to a fair hearing?
          Will the D.W.P. legal team facing such a claimant be equal, have
          equity of arms.
          ie. ill, no income for 4 months ,starving & exhausted?
          If the D.W.P. prosecutors are not under the same circumstances how
          could such a appellants right to mount a appeal & have equity of
          arms with the the rights this should entail in law be ensured
          especially as they are in total poverty?

          Yours faithfully,

          Colin Lindley

          Link to this

          https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/dwp_duty_to_claimants_who_appeal#incoming-639939

      • Hard Working Taxpayer

        What a fucking stupid idea. How is somebody as thick as GEOFF “CAPS LOCK WANKER” REYNOLDS going to figure out how to put a wrist band on. What a twat she must me.

      • overburdenddonkey

        geoff
        wow! much better to cure the emotional injuries, caused by child abuse…

  8. Well.. this whole new “army” of workfare slaves.. well there will be roads that need building,, farms needing workers (cant have those foreigners doing it).. The Reichsarbeitsdienst (translated to ‘Reich Labour Service’, abbreviated RVD) was a major organisation established by Nazi Germany as an agency to help mitigate the effects of unemployment on German economy, militarise the workforce and indoctrinate it with Nazi ideology.

    From June 1935 onwards, men aged between 18 and 25 had to serve six months before their military service Conscripted personnel had to move into labour barracks. Each rank and file RAD man was supplied with a spade and a bicycle. A paramilitary uniform was implemented in 1934; beside the swastika brassard, the RAD symbol, an arm badge in the shape of an upward pointing shovel blade, was displayed on the upper left shoulder of all uniforms and great-coats worn by all personnel. Men and women had to work up to 76 hours a week. In the late summer of 1944, German records listed 7.6 million foreign civilian workers most of whom had been brought there by coercion. By 1944, slave labour made up one quarter of Germany’s entire work force

  9. zero contract masochism and minimum wage romanticism for fuck’s sake people have some self-esteem.

  10. Johnny I’m voting green. I think the blue bastards may get in again tho ;'( i hope not but i think they will. Labour are still too far to the right, they have said they will scrap the bed room tax, good, but they will do nothing on sanctions and ESA and high rents. I think ESA should just be call ‘support benefit’, what the heck has ’employment’ got to do with someone who is ill/disabled. The ESA re-branding was just another way to guilt trip the unwell.

    • Red and Blue are purple.. notice the ties of the leaders they are going more purple.. there is NO difference between the tories and labour.. If you vote labour you get diet tories.. if you vote lib dems you get tory lite.. if you vote UKIP you get new and (un) improved tories

    • Guilt tripping is their main weapon and since when is it welfare payments? We paid into a system for forty years named social security run by DWP in true terms welfare as they call it won’t ever exceed all I’ve paid in before disabled and worked forty years single parent no help whatsoever with childcare. Thatchers govt on enquiry told me I had a choice I could give up work. Yes I can imagine how my son would have perceived that. Demonisation of disabled sick old is no Mark of civilisation.

  11. “Last November, Spain’s social housing occupants got letters ‘consulting’ with them about a done deal: the government had sold their apartments to a group going by the name of Cibeles. Cibeles was a Greek goddess of nature and fertility, so given Lloyd Blankfein’s interest in doing God’s work, it will come as no surprise to you to know that Cibeles is….Goldman Sachs.”

    https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/global-looting/

  12. Hard Working Taxpayer

    I see that all you workshy wankers are having a whinge again. It’s simple, in fact it’s so simple that even you tossers ought to be able to get your heads around it. Either A) you aren’t fit enough to work, in which case you will have to prove it (for once) or B) you are fit enough for work in which case, get off your fat arses and find some.

    • @HWT Or you could just fuck off trolling

    • Another Fine Mess

      or B) you are fit enough for work in which case, get off your fat arses and find some

      Go on, you tell us where it is, bright spark.

      • When anybody trolls on this site it gives me a sense of satisfaction……….

        ……………the satisfaction of knowing that our comments are not going unnoticed and the satisfaction that the respondent has had to leave their comfort zone to go onto a blog that is completely at odds to what they believe, to find out what the opposition really think.

        ……….for, it is they, who must be uncertain

    • I hope you do not have a massive stroke or some other serious illness. We are all in a position where we never know what is round the corner. Atos successor awaits anyone who becomes disabled, unless they have enough money so they do not need to claim benefits. I was a hardworking taxpayer and I am fit to work right now. Your worth depends on your ability to earn now so I hope you never get ill.

    • I am a hard working taxpayer – but I sincerely hope that my employers do not engage with the workfare programme or my job will disappear and will be carried out by someone else for free. Wonder if your job is safe????

      • Hi Donna yes exactly many people’s jobs will be at risk through the work programme. No job is safe. Workfare is not about getting people training and jobs it is about occupying them and abusing them. They target the sick, unemployed and if they could eliminate them then a new layer of the weakest appear. They are always on about supporting hardworking people when many of those are on zero hour contracts. People are like drill bits, use them till they are no longer economically productive and then they are superfluous. Politicians in my opinion are the enemies of most of society. It is a lie that everyone on benefits is a shirker and scrounger. Thatcher did believe there was such a thing as society, the rich society they need the state to protect their private property.

    • @HWT
      Given that you are a Tory, what happens to you should you have a heart attack or a stroke (strokes can hit anybody at any age or gender)? What happens to you when the spivs administering your private pension pocket your money and scarper – as has happened only recently? And should that happen, what happens to you as your Tory chums will have also stolen your State pension? Think about it.

  13. These politicians would rebuild the gas factories if they could. They are pure evil they revile me. All politicians are the enemies of the poor, unemployed and disabled. They don’t call people untermenchen but that is what they think of then, they are too clever to say it. Only a revolution will stop them.

  14. Dont rise to the bait , the stupid wankers got his extremely small prick out in readiness to get off on our comments.

  15. If Esther McVey loses her seat she could always get a job “hauntin hooses”.

  16. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    ………….FROM BERGEN-BELSEN TO MAXIMUS

    ……….the claimant journey is just the same

  17. I put a post up on this blog sometime ago saying where we would be heading, well its started, coming soon to the UK and the EU.

    https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/04/15/pers-a15.html

    • overburdenddonkey

      annos
      too many are dazzled by what sparkles in the sun, to change what needs to be changed…some set on a course for straitjacketed poverty, scraps from table if ‘pleasingly’ perform…..many think life is but a joke…watchtower…set to demonize anything that isn’t a business model….to profit from the suffering and celebrate the suffering of others, spinning yarns to mask truth… http://www.robertburns.org.uk/Assets/Poems_Songs/tamoshanter.htm
      ‘No, wha this tale o’ truth shall read, Ilk man and mother’s son take heed; Whene’er to drink you are inclin’d, Or cutty-sarks run in your mind,
      Think! ye may buy joys o’er dear – Remember Tam o’ Shanter’s mare.’

  18. My pal is still floating between ESA and JSA – she is on the hamster treadmill. Her GP has been exceptional in helping though. Also, all the information that I have learned on this site I have passed onto her. I don’t know anyone who has worked continually for 40 years without having to sign on at least once.

    • Incapacity benefit stopped by DWP/ATOS did not want to get caught in the ESA/JSA revolving door, did not have a supportive GP so claimed JSA and denied any ailments – due to sanctions now on hardship payments.

  19. Mr R – that is awful – my pal took the Atos decision to a Tribunal and won. Then it all started again from the beginning. A letter of reconsideration etc, etc. Have you tried that freepostcode lottery site. There is a new post code every day – it is definitely free – or I wouldn’t being doing it. All you do is insert your email and post code. Yes, you are right it is like a revolving door. My pal has rheumatoid arthritis and is in constant pain. They even sent her to working links as she can’t operate a computer. Five people in my work got booted last week. One female is 66 – where on earth is she going to find a job? Hope I am not next!!!!

    • Working Links Are SCUM!!

      Jeez,Donna, not Working Links! Working links are pure fucking unadulterated EVIL!!

      • Working Links are the worst bottom feeding scum of the whole lot. Always trying to collect their ‘fee’ even 2 years down the line from when someone told them to f**k off. Rang said person up and said “Do you have a job yet? Where is it? Who is it with!” LOL! Pathetic! What does it say about their employees? I mean who would do a job like that? Ah well i saw Irma Grese on the news last night and these Working Links scum would undoubtedly say just what the Nazi’s did: “I was just doing following orders!”

    • @Donna
      a 66yo woman should be drawing her State pension – she can’t be mandated to look for work. However should the Tories cling on to power after the 7th May, things might be different,

      • @wildswimmerpete – this is the woman I worked with not the one who is on the hamster wheel. She has worked there for 26 years and got the boot. If it was me, I would retire – wish I could retire now – because of the rise in the pension age I can’t. Hope I am not on the next ‘Hit List’.

  20. UKIP rhetoric more supportive of social security than the Labour Party.

  21. Yes, she said there was a guy in charge who loved himself lol

  22. I won’t be participating in the their fucking charade.

  23. Most people don’t know there are 2 groups for ESA. The first word is ’employment’, for a benefit for sick and disabled. The whole purpose of re-branding the name was to create future dis-trust with blaming and humiliating thrown in. The youngest generation are being indoctrinated by right wing to resent people who are vulnerable. It should be ok to say that you are not well, but it is not, instead there is so much shame involved now. England is on its way to becoming this grotesque bully who doesn’t even like its own people.

    • overburdenddonkey

      nota
      http://www.thenational.scot/news/campaign-round-up-lib-dem-leader-issues-plea-to-conservatives-to-help-its-candidates.2052 ‘Rennie continued: “Thankfully, many traditional Conservatives are ignoring the overtures from the Conservative Party. In increasing numbers they are backing the local Liberal Democrats to stop the SNP.”By refusing to engage in tactical voting Rennie said that the Conservatives had “put their own interests ahead of that of the United Kingdom.” me, me, me, first politics is rife, they’ll do anything to get power, over the lives of others…we the people simply don’t matter, this is now very plain to see….

      • overburdenddonkey

        ps
        http://www.allofusfirst.org/
        ‘For 40 years Scotland has suffered from ‘me first’ politics – and we all came second. Politics has made a few extremely wealthy and left the rest suffering from low pay, insecurity, declining public services and fragmented communities. We believe that ‘to build more we must share more’, that we can create a politics based on working together, where the many benefit and not just the few. We can be wealthier, fairer, more equal, more productive, more innovative, more competitive – and people can be happier. Our vision is of a diverse and productive economy with high-quality jobs that make people more prosperous. We can then sustain a great welfare state in which our national resources are used to benefit all our citizens and core infrastructure is owned collectively with the profits shared. Real democracy we will let the people make their own decisions, taking our future out of the hands of unelected vested interests….’

  24. Been told at the jobcentre today that fixed signing on times are now finished,from now on I will see the same person everytime I sign on.the times vary each time.has anyone else had this.

    • Another Fine Mess

      I’ve been on random times for ages, it doesn’t bother me one bit, more work for them.

      from now on I will see the same person everytime I sign on.
      Wanna bet!

    • @Daz
      It’s because the Tories think that everybody on JSA is working on the side or involved in some other fiddle. It’s to break up your “Jobcentre+ imaginary” working routine. Of course the Tories know all the fiddles – they take part in all of them to a man (and woman).

  25. Rock and a Hard Place

    Political Psychiatry. The Tories are Psychopaths/Sociopaths. The only way to get rid of them is to vote Labour. But Labour are Passive-Aggressives who are delibrately inefficient and will smile politely whilst stabbing you in the back. Where will this madness end?

  26. “PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW THE DWP DRIVE CLAIMANTS TO SUICIDE”

    ………fucking with human lives

    14 April 2015
    Annex A

    Dear Mr Stillwell,

    Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received on 8 April 2015.

    You asked: “Dear Department for Work and Pensions, Dear sir/madam. I’m writing to ask why you
    are still holding on to previously awarded ESA in the amount of £916 which I still haven’t received
    from you. I have been intouch with debt recovery today & they seem to have no knowledge of this, or
    any requests due to overpayment of benefit. This is really now at a point where it is affecting my
    health & I need a resolution to this so I can get on with my life. I still can’t work out why this has
    taken so long to go nowhere & I’m just continually being passed from pillar to post with no resolution
    in sight. Stop fobbing me off & pay me the money I’m owed”.

    Full details of how to obtain information held about you by the Department for Work and
    Pensions is available on the Department’s pages on Gov.uk (link attached below). Please
    remember not to include your personal information on Whatdotheyknow.com (WDTK) as it will
    be visible to the public. We also do not recommend emailing of requests, as email is not a
    secure medium without suitable encryption in place and your personal details may be
    intercepted.

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/262387/response/640959/attach/html/3/WDTK%201476%20FoI%20Response%20Mr%20Stillwell.pdf.html

    • …………….another life, another peer review, another cover up?

      • “BILL GUNNYEONS CONFLICTS OF INTEREST THAT WERE NEVER PROPERLY INVESTIGATED”

        ……………….JUMPED SHIP FROM DWP TO MAXIMUS AFTER ADVISING ON DWP DISABILITY ISSUES

        Employment History

        Chief Medical Adviser
        DWP
        Chief Medical Adviser, Medical Director and Chief Scientist To the Department
        Work and Pensions
        Chief Medical Officer for the Department
        Work and Pensions
        President
        Faculty of Occupational Medicine
        Director for Health
        GovNet Communications
        Chair
        Association of Local Authority Medical Advisers
        Director for Health Work
        The Westminster Business Forum
        Director for Health Work
        Department

        Board Memberships and Affiliations

        Board Member
        DWP
        Chief Medical Advisor At the Department
        Work and Pensions
        MAXIMUS HEALTHCARE

  27. From their time in collusion do the liberal democrats have deep knowledge of the Tories plans to cut welfare by £13 billion?

  28. All those unproductive hard working families subsidising Rachman employers and landlords with in-work benefits dragging us all down.

  29. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    “PUBLIC DEMONSTRATIONS IN OVER 200 US CITIES AND NOT A MENTION ON OUR PRIME NEWS CHANNELS”

    Demonstrations are taking place across the pond in the country we have a “special relationship” with and our media are blocking it……………..

    …………wonder why?

    The protestors are asking for a minimum wage of $15 per hour because soaring rents and hikes in prices are driving them into the ground.
    It all sounds so familiar with what is going on here and the blame is levelled at the multinationals and banks that use and abuse to stash unknown billions while evading paying the right taxes.

    The corporate giants are seeing a rebellion that could change the way we are heading, but the likes of the rogue, BBC AND SKY, don’t like you to realise the truth of what goes on in this dirty little world that they help maintain……….

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      …………………..I am in a bit of a dilemma really, the DWPhave put me in a situation where i am unable to decide what to do with my annual rise in my only benefit of Industrial injuries.

      Being disabled and forced to live on just over thirty quid per week for the last 10 months is some mean feat, but the letter telling me it had risen by 40p brought a smile to my eighteen year old son, bless him……….

      Should we buy a box of matches to help warm ourselves, for we have not lit the gas fire for the last four years, or should we treat ourselves to something really over the top……………………

      some crisps

  30. @Geoff
    Your post has disappeared: “This Facebook post is no longer available. It may have been removed or the privacy settings of the post may have changed.” Have you been subjected to corporate censorship? Highly illegal in UK.

  31. Here you go Geoff – it’s now on my website so the Tories can’t have it taken down

  32. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    “MARK ROWLAND, JUDGE OF THE UPPER TRIBUNAL”

    Today i received confirmation that my appeal to the the UPPER TRIBUNAL ADMINISTRATIVE APPEALS CHAMBER had been granted, but was dismayed to find that the judge, named above, had disected my case by taking relevant parts from it prior to the hearing…………………….

    JUDGE MARK ROWLAND has said that i have no case to complain that the same judge appeared at two of my tribunal hearings. Under the terms of the Human Rights Act i complained that the judge must recuse himself, or step down from the hearing, as it was not fair nor independent and was therefore biased………………

    JUDGE MARK ROWLAND also stated in my appeal that i could not complain about the state breaching my Human Rights by being left short of money.
    The judge said that i could have claimed job seekers allowance, so no breach was evident?
    This is an act of desperation by a judge as everyone and sundry knows, that to claim jsa you have to be fit for work and i was registered as disabled for life by the DWPmany years ago……………

    JUDGE MARK ROWLAND is of the opinion that it is ok for a doctor who was present at two of my tribunal hearings, to not be licensed to practise.
    He therefore says i cannot complain on this issue, yet the General Medical Council website states that unlicensed doctors can only sign passport photos and give first aid in an emergency.

    …………………even though my case is going forward, the judge has already done his best to dilute the content and completely ignore a disabled persons rights under Equality, Discrimination and Human Rights Legislation.

    The whole issue of a fair trial or tribunal in the UK is nothing short of a sham played out by those who prosper from the pains of those they steal the benefits from…………………

    • “JUDGE MARK ROWLAND also stated in my appeal that i could not complain about the state breaching my Human Rights by being left short of money.
      The judge said that i could have claimed job seekers allowance, so no breach was evident?”

      That’s a bloody joke isn’t it? They know to claim JSA you have to state you’re fit for work and actively seeking it. How can you say that if you’re not capable of working?

      Once again the ‘disability denial service’ in full, flight.

      Question is how do they get away with routinely denying people’s human rights and using the courts to hide behind?

      • GEOFF REYNOLDS

        All the judiciary are singing from the same hymnsheet, Raining.

        Cameron and his crony, Grayling, had big ideas of trying to bring in a British Bill of Rights which they would force through using Theresa May, the ice queen.
        The new bill of rights would supersede / blur sections of the Human Rights and Equality Acts that would allow them carte blanche to do as they wished.

        The reality is that they are dicing with death, a good choice of words that describe the carnage left by the DWP and the Judiciary in taking human lives………………..

        They are in for a fucking, they know it and we know it.

        Any litigations and criminal prosecutions that ensue because of blatant breaches will cost the treasury dearly and once again the welfare system will be raped once more to make amends. .

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      • overburdenddonkey

        geoff
        having no other choice i did several FtT + i UtT which i did win…what else can one do if one needs an income…there’s now MR, a major spanner in the works… http://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-dismisses-talk-of-fitness-for-work-catch-22/ plainly we are just expected to comply to their judgments and do as we’re told…

        • GEOFF REYNOLDS

          ……….Thats the one obd, the revolving door of disability denial.

          • overburdenddonkey
            • GEOFF REYNOLDS

              Which is a clear breach of HUMAN RIGHTS…………

              • overburdenddonkey

                aye, ie emotional injuries which are often called mhp’s, which cause addictive behaviours for example, are totally curable symptoms of child abuse, but they won’t be…instead those and many others conditions will be controlled and managed…and a whole armies of ‘helpers’ fed for life by doing so…..1984…they say ‘we will’ which IS abuse…
                the abuse is forcing people to do WITHOUT THEIR CONSENT and offering bogus BEHAVIOURIST….CBT….NUDGE ‘treatments’…that cause people to feel humiliated, stripped of dignity, and impotent…ie have no choice in their own being…

  33. overburdenddonkey

    geoff
    …the question, as i remember it, is your benefit entitlement affected or superseded by an inquiry form the dwp sent you?

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      After Mcvile announced in parliament that those on lifetime awards, would not be contacted to claim for PIP until october 2015, i received a questionnaire from the Dwp.
      The DWP said that in order to pay me the right amount of money and continue my eligibility, i must fill in the questionnaire and return it………

      The questionnaire was nothing but a list of tick box answers, engineered to claim that they considered your circumstances had changed, regardless of what you ticked.

      It was a trick to send you for an ATOS PIP examination. The form asked for two lots of signatures, one of which was permission for you to share your medical records with a healthcare professional acting on behalf of the DWP, who could, in turn, examine you.

      I wrote to the DWP and informed them that my circumstances had not changed whatsoever.
      They sent two more copies of the questionnaire and said unless i filled it in, they would take away my DLA completely.

      ……………In effect, they wanted me to sign a contract that allowed them to send me for another ATOS examination, eighteen months earlier than Mcvile told parliament……………….

      It was nothing short of entrapment to deceive the claimant and take their benefit.

      My circumstances had not changed in fourteen years and had been a lifetime decision.

      Prior to receiving the questionnaire, i was made aware of their intentions from other internet users.
      Acting upon this, i sent the DWP a freedom of information request. it is contained below;

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/164282/response/407143/attach/html/2/FoI.2665.2769.RESPONSE.pdf.html

      ………………….within the answer to my request, the DWP cited this;

      “DLA award reviews
      Awards of Disability Living Allowance (DLA), whether made for life, indefinitely, or for a fixed
      period, are made on the basis that the entitlement conditions continue to be met.

      An indefinite or life award would not generally be reviewed unless there is a change in
      circumstances that affects the entitlement. Such a change could be reported by the claimant,
      as they are required to do to ensure they receive the correct amount of benefit, or through
      another source e.g. Fraud referral.

      ………………….”such a change could be reported by the claimant”

      That is what i told them when the questionnaire arrived,

      “I HAVE ALREADY TOLD YOU, THEIR HAS NOT BEEN A CHANGE IN MY CIRCUMSTANCES”

      They took away my DLA completely.

    • overburdenddonkey

      geoff
      yeah, i do remember what it was about….

  34. The only “handout” was Income Support which is (was?) not contribution dependant but even then you really had to be destitute. I may be wrong, but isn’t a “hardship payment” what we called IS?

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