DWP Admin And Salaries Costs Nearly Twice The Dole: Sack The Managers And Save Us All A Fortune

atos-black-triangleThe DWP spent almost twice as much on salaries, welfare-to-work schemes and administration last year than they did on unemployment benefit.

The department’s latest six monthly report shows that £7.7 billion was spent on administration costs in 2013/14 compared to £4.3 billion on Jobseeker’s Allowance, othwerwise known as the dole.  In the current year administration spending is expected to hit £8 billion, whilst spending on JSA is forecast to fall to £3.7 billion as hundreds of thousands of people are bullied off benefits with sanctions and workfare.

The DWP is a big department, and this colossal spend also includes administration of pensions, sickness, housing and disability benefit spending.  But with around 750 Jobcentres around the UK and 78,000 employees, (according to The Guardian in 2010) it seems likely the biggest bulk of this spending goes on paying the salaries of Jobcentre busybodies and their happy clappy over-paid managers.  On top of this over a billion goes to ‘Employment Programmes’ meaning money shovelled into the pockets of private welfare-to-work providers like A4e and G4S.

Increased conditionality for benefits means Jobcentre staff spend most of their time bullying and harassing claimants by forcing them to sign on everyday or pretend to spend hours using the dreadful Universal Jobmatch website.  And their managers are there to ruthlessly police the benefit sanction targets they pretend don’t exist by threatening any worker who isn’t being enough of a ruthless cold-hearted bastard that week with diciplinary action.

If this conditionality was stripped away and welfare-to-work profiteers sacked, then it seems likely most of George Osborne’s planned social security cuts could come from administration alone.  Or instead of blowing the budget on bullying, Jobcentres could go back to processing benefits claims and providing genuine and non-coercive help with finding work, training and education for those that want it. Or they could double the dole.

But don’t hold your breath, the benefit system is no longer there as a safety net to protect people in the event of sickness, unemployment or disability.  Instead it exists to dicipline the entire workforce, by turning unemployment into a living hell so that people accept the shit wages and working conditions that come with modern capitalism.  And that comes at a high price, not just to the Treasury, but to all those forced to use foodbanks this Christmas because they were sanctioned for being ten minutes late to a meeting with the Jobcentre.

You can read the report at: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/dwp-mid-year-report-april-2014-to-september-2014

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349 responses to “DWP Admin And Salaries Costs Nearly Twice The Dole: Sack The Managers And Save Us All A Fortune

  1. Reblogged this on L8in.

  2. Happy Christmas Johnny,thank you for all the good work you do on your blog.

  3. Well said my friend I have both worked in a job centre and am currently claiming JSA, both are a living hell. Successive governments have failed to tackle unemployment in a sensitive and common sense way. I feel sick at the thought of not having a job and signing on, but have applied for 100s jobs and had a few interviews. It’s no picnic for the £72 pocket money I get

  4. Here! here! . . .

    J V

    You are the TRUE

    meaning of a

    N A T I O N A L T R E A S U R E !

    YOU are the O N E who should be on the New Year’s Eve List for a Knighthood (you’ll kill me for saying this!)

    but you’re too fkng decent and work tirelessly to support your cause to give a shite about any pleases, thank you’s or rewards.

    Iv’e told sooooooooooooooooooo many people about your blog and got so many people to follow you and quote you all the time.

    Long may you

    R U L E ! ! !

  5. this was originally posted under rob fillies in case it doesn’t make sense . . .

  6. “It would be wrong to blame the company for recruiting from abroad: it needs workers and has advertised vacancies in Britain to no avail.
    It would be wrong also to blame the immigrants who want to come here for better pay and conditions. The problem has arisen because the generosity of the welfare state has made people lazy.
    The welfare state was supposed to be a safety net to help those in desperate need.
    Nowadays it has become a way for people who do not want to work to maintain lavish lifestyles at taxpayers’ expense. For many benefits claimants this has created a sense of entitlement.
    The Government must continue its benefit reforms to ensure that work always pays better than claiming handouts. Then we will see jobs such as those at Staples being taken by unemployed Britons instead of eastern Europeans.”

    no lets not blame bosses for exploiting unemployed foreigners by paying shit wages, and not blame those exploited foreign workers’ is the fault of benefit scroungers “who do not want to work to maintain ***lavish lifestyles*** at taxpayers’ expense

    well dont know about you but i dont know anyone having a lavish lifestyle unless he means corporations on govt payroll and and Mps expenses oh and bankers on whacking great bonuses..
    verdict: cunt, total

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS dwp mortality counter



  7. Discipline, Discipline, Discipline!!!
    Doesn’t your browser have spellchecking?

  8. http://www.rethink.org/living-with-mental-illness/money-issues-benefits-employment/universal-credit/conditions-and-sanctions

    lets not forget UNIVERSAL CRAPIT eh?

    “if you are in the full conditionality or the work preparation groups, you will have to go to work focused interviews. These are meetings with a Jobcentre Plus personal adviser or

    ***an adviser working for a private company***

    . At these meetings you should be able to discuss the type of work you can manage or would like to get into, what barriers to getting into work there are for you, and how these could be overcome.”

    so can THAT advisor SANCTION a claimant??

    i think we should be told, dont you?

    • overburdenddonkey

      where is rethink’s condemnation of the WP/dwp rule’s?
      spot the difference between poverty enabler’s and http://edinburghagainstpoverty.org.uk/node/68
      ‘THE WORK PROGRAMME: AN ATTACK ON BOTH THE UNEMPLOYED AND WAGES OF THE EMPLOYED.’ the true helper condemn’s this and many other dwp bad practice’s whilst acknowledging it’s rules, offers the best solution’s that it is able to, and helps one fight the abuse…
      please stop posting dwp conditionalities, that we are all very well aware of…the question/solution/answer is how do we fight them, not how we must comply or lose benefit’s….
      we should have a massive increase in unconditional basic living allowance…
      see basic citizen’s income….

      • @Donkey indeed , if they are meant to be supportive they could at least act like they care,,and anyway who are these private company advisors anyway ? what powers do they have ??

      • @donkey i merely posted these rules that they may be challenged by being aware of them especially the universal crapit ones which are totally absurd

        If we are to achieve anything it is to take apart the absurd nature of these made up on the spot conditions

        • overburdenddonkey

          do you advocate the work of rethink?
          all i see is an approval proclamation by the dwp/rethink, with no antidote…
          give me resolution countenance to their rules…many people will be in despair @ seeing rethink and the dwp stating what one must do, in unison/choir tacit approval of…the permutations of case rule break scenarios is vast, no one is going to be able to carry such weight in their heads/minds…they’ll buckle under the load caused by the mind boggling distraction…or one is driven to surrender to their rules without antidote, therefore they are in control of one …all one needs is a rough sketch of their rules and a rule of thumb antidote to them…


    “What if I don’t follow the rules in my claimant commitment?

    If you do not follow the rules in your claimant commitment, you could lose some of your benefit. This is called a sanction. There are four levels of sanction which can be applied for various reasons.

    Maximum sanctions

    If your claimant commitment says you should be available for and actively seeking work, you could lose some or all of you UC if:

    You voluntarily cease working or lose pay for no good reason
    You lose your job due to misconduct
    You do not apply for a specific job for no good reason
    You fail to take up an offer of paid work
    You fail to do a mandatory work activity for no good reason.

    You would lose your standard allowance for 91 days the first time this happens, 182 days if it happens a second time within a year, and 3 years for a third failure within a year of the second offence.

    If you are claiming as a couple, you will lose 50% of the couples allowance if one partner is sanctioned and 100% if both partners are sanctioned.

    Medium sanctions

    If your claimant commitment says you should be available for and actively seeking work, you could lose some or all of you UC if:

    You fail to comply with the work search requirements
    You fail to comply with a work availability requirement

    You would lose your standard allowance for 28 days the first time and 91 days for a second time within a year.

    If you are claiming as a couple, you will lose 50% of the couples allowance if one partner is sanctioned and 100% if both partners are sanctioned.

    Low level sanctions

    If your claimant commitment says you should prepare for work and:

    You fail to comply with a work focused interview requirement
    You fail to comply with a work preparation requirement
    You fail to comply with a work search requirement

    You will lose your standard allowance until you do what was agreed or you are no longer required to do it, plus 7 days for a first failure, 14 days for a second failure within a year and 28 days for a third failure within a year of the second offence.
    If you are claiming as a couple, you will lose 50% of the couples allowance if one partner is sanctioned and 100% if both partners are sanctioned.

    Minimum sanctions

    If your claimant commitment only says you must attend work focused interviews and:

    • You fail to take part in a work focused interview for no good reason.

    If your UC is sanctioned at the lowest level you will lose 40% of your standard allowance until you start attending or you are no longer required to do so.

    If you are claiming as a couple, you will lose 40% of the couples allowance if one partner is sanctioned and 80% if both partners are sanctioned.

  10. “You fail to do a mandatory work activity for no good reason.”



      “THE DWP”

      Terry McGarvey, 48. Dangerously ill from polycytheamia, Terry asked for an ambulance to be called during his Work Capability Assessment. He knew that he wasn’t well enough to attend his WCA but feared that his benefits would be stopped if he did not. He died the following day.

      Elaine Lowe, 53. Suffering from COPD and fearful of losing her benefits. In desperation, Elaine chose to commit suicide.

      Mark Wood, 44. Found fit for work by Atos, against his Doctors advice and assertions that he had complex mental health problems. Starved to death after benefits stopped, weighing only 5st 8lb when he died.

      Paul Reekie, 48, the Leith based Poet and Author. Suffered from severe depression. Committed suicide after DWP stopped his benefits due to an Atos ‘fit for work’ decision.

      Leanne Chambers, 30. Suffered depression for many years which took a turn for the worst when she was called in for a WCA. Leanne committed suicide soon after.

      Karen Sherlock, 44. Multiple health issues. Found fit for work by Atos and denied benefits. Fought a long battle to get placed into the support group of ESA. Karen died the following month of a heart attack.

      Carl Payne, 42. Fears of losing his lifeline benefits due to welfare reform led this Father of two to take his own life.

      Tim Salter, 53. Blind and suffering from Agoraphobia. Tim hanged himself after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.

      Edward Jacques, 47 years old and suffering from HIV and Hepatitis C. Edward had a history of severe depression and self-harm. He took a fatal overdose after Atos found him fit for work and stopped his benefits.

      Linda Wootton, 49 years old. A double heart and lung transplant patient. Died just nine days after the government found her fit for work, their refusal letter arriving as she lay desperately ill in her hospital bed.

      Steven Cawthra, 55. His benefits stopped by the DWP and with rising debts, he saw suicide as the only way out of a desperate situation.

      Elenore Tatton, 39 years old. Died just weeks after the government found her fit for work.

      John Walker, 57, saddled with debt because of the bedroom tax, John took his own life.

      Brian McArdle, 57 years old. Suffered a fatal heart attack the day after his disability benefits were stopped.

      Stephen Hill, 53. Died of a heart attack one month after being found fit for work, even though he was waiting for major heart surgery.

      Jacqueline Harris, 53. A former Nurse who could hardly walk was found fit for work by Atos and her benefits withdrawn. in desperation, she took her own life.

      David Barr, 28. Suffering from severe mental difficulties. Threw himself from a bridge after being found fit for work by Atos and failing his appeal.

      David Groves, 56. Died of a heart attack the night before taking his work capability assessment. His widow claimed that it was the stress that killed him.

      Nicholas Peter Barker, 51. Shot himself after being told his benefits were being stopped. He was unable to work after a brain haemorrhage left him paralysed down one side.

      Mark and Helen Mullins, 48 and 59 years old. Forced to live on £57.50 a week and make 12 mile trips each week to get free vegetables to make soup. Mark and Helen both committed suicide.

      Richard Sanderson, 44. Unable to find a job and with his housing benefit cut forcing him to move, but with nowhere to go. Richard committed suicide.

      Martin Rust, 36 years old. A schizophrenic man who killed himself two months after the government found him fit to work.

      Craig Monk, 43. A vulnerable gentleman and a partial amputee who slipped so far into poverty that he hanged himself.

      Colin Traynor, 29, and suffering from epilepsy was stripped of his benefits. He appealed. Five weeks after his death his family found he had won his appeal.

      Elaine Christian, 57 years old. Worried about her work capability assessment, she was subsequently found at Holderness drain, drowned and with ten self inflicted wrist wounds.

      Christelle and Kayjah Pardoe, 32 years and 5 month old. Pregnant, her benefits stopped, Christelle, clutching her baby son jumped from a third floor balcony.

      Mark Scott, 46. His DLA and housing benefit stopped and sinking into deep depression, Mark died six weeks later.

      Cecilia Burns, 51. Found fit for work while undergoing treatment for breast cancer. She died just a few weeks after she won her appeal against the Atos decision.

      Chris Cann, 57 years old. Found dead in his home just months after being told he had to undergo a medical assessment to prove he could not work.

      Peter Hodgson, 49. Called to JCP to see if he was suitable for volunteer work. Peter had suffered a stroke, a brain haemorrhage and had a fused leg. His appointment letter arrived a few days after he took his own life.

      Paul Willcoxsin, 33 years old. Suffered with mental health problems and worried about government cuts. Paul committed suicide by hanging himself.

      Stephanie Bottrill, 53. After paying £80 a month for bedroom tax, Stephanie could not afford heating in the winter, and lived on tinned custard. In desperation, she chose to walk in front of a lorry.

      Larry Newman suffered from a degenerative lung condition, his weight dropping from 10 to 7 stone. Atos awarded him zero points, he died just three months after submitting his appeal.

      Paul Turner, 52 years old. After suffering a heart attack, he was ordered to find a job in February. In April Paul died from ischaemic heart disease.

      Christopher Charles Harkness, 39. After finding out that the funding for his care home was being withdrawn, this man who suffered with mental health issues, took his own life.

      Sandra Louise Moon, 57. Suffering from a degenerative back condition, depression and increasingly worried about losing her incapacity benefit. Sandra committed suicide by taking an overdose.

      Lee Robinson, 39 years old. Took his own life after his housing benefit and council tax were taken away from him.

      David Coupe, 57. A Cancer sufferer found fit for work by Atos in 2012. David lost his sight, then his hearing, then his mobility, and then his life.

      Michael McNicholas, 34. Severely depressed and a recovering alcoholic. Michael committed suicide after being called in for a Work Capability Assessment by Atos.

      Victor Cuff, 59 and suffering from severe depression. Victor hanged himself after the DWP stopped his benefits.

      Charles Barden, 74. Charles committed suicide by hanging due to fears that the Bedroom Tax would leave him destitute and unable to cope.

      Ian Caress, 43. Suffered multiple health issues and deteriorating eyesight. Ian was found fit for work by Atos, he died ten months later having lost so much weight that his family said that he resembled a concentration camp victim.

      Iain Hodge, 30. Suffered from the life threatening illness, Hughes Syndrome. Found fit for work by Atos and benefits stopped, Iain took his own life.

      Wayne Grew, 37. Severely depressed due to government cuts and the fear of losing his job, Wayne committed suicide by hanging.

      Kevin Bennett, 40. Kevin a sufferer of schizophrenia and mental illness became so depressed after his JSA was stopped that he became a virtual recluse. Kevin was found dead in his flat several months later.

      David Elwyn Hughs Harries, 48. A disabled man who could no longer cope after his parents died, could find no help from the government via benefits. David took an overdose as a way out of his solitude.

      Denis Jones, 58. A disabled man crushed by the pressures of government cuts, in particular the Bedroom Tax, and unable to survive by himself. Denis was found dead in his flat.

      Shaun Pilkington, 58. Unable to cope any more, Shaun shot himself dead after receiving a letter from the DWP informing him that his ESA was being stopped.

      Paul ?, 51. Died in a freezing cold flat after his ESA was stopped. Paul appealed the decision and won on the day that he lost his battle to live.

      Chris MaGuire, 61. Deeply depressed and incapable of work, Chris was summonsed by Atos for a Work Capability Assessment and deemed fit for work. On appeal, a judge overturned the Atos decision and ordered them to leave him alone for at least a year, which they did not do. In desperation, Chris took his own life, unable to cope anymore.

      Peter Duut, a Dutch national with terminal cancer living in the UK for many years found that he was not entitled to benefits unless he was active in the labour market. Peter died leaving his wife destitute, and unable to pay for his funeral.

      George Scollen, age unknown. Took his own life after the government closed the Remploy factory he had worked in for 40 years.

      Julian Little, 47. Wheelchair bound and suffering from kidney failure, Julian faced the harsh restrictions of the Bedroom Tax and the loss of his essential dialysis room. He died shortly after being ordered to downgrade.

      Miss DE, Early 50’s. Suffering from mental illness, this lady committed suicide less than a month after an Atos assessor gave her zero points and declared her fit for work.

      Robert Barlow, 47. Suffering from a brain tumour, a heart defect and awaiting a transplant, Robert was deemed fit for work by Atos and his benefits were withdrawn. He died penniless less than two years later.

      Carl Joseph Foster-Brown, 58. As a direct consequence of the wholly unjustifiable actions of the Job centre and DWP, this man took his own life.

      Martin Hadfield, 20 years old. Disillusioned with the lack of jobs available in this country but too proud to claim benefits. Utterly demoralised, Martin took his own life by hanging himself.

      Annette Francis, 30. A mum-of-one suffering from severe mental illness, found dead after her disability benefits were ceased.

      Ian Jordan, 60. His benefits slashed after Atos and the DWP declared Ian, a sufferer of Barratt’s Oesophagus, fit for work, caused him to run up massive debts in order to survive. Ian was found dead in his flat after taking an overdose.

      Janet McCall, 53. Terminally ill with pulmonary fibrosis and declared ‘Fit for Work’ by Atos and the DWP, this lady died 5 months after her benefits were stopped.

      Stuart Holley, 23. A man driven to suicide by the DWP’s incessant pressure and threat of sanctions for not being able to find a job.

      Graham Shawcross, 63. A sufferer of the debilitating disease, Addison’s. Died of a heart attack due to the stress of an Atos ‘Fit for Work’ decision.

      David Clapson, 59 years old. A diabetic ex-soldier deprived of the means to survive by the DWP and the governments harsh welfare reforms, David died all but penniless, starving and alone, his electricity run out.

      Chris Smith, 59. Declared ‘Fit for Work’ by Atos as he lay dying of Cancer in his hospital bed.

      Nathan Hartwell, 36, died of heart failure after an 18-month battle with the ­Department for Works and Pensions.

      Michael Connolly, 60. A Father of One, increasingly worried about finances after his benefits were cut. Committed suicide by taking 13 times the fatal dose of prescription medicine on the 30th October – His Birthday.

      Jan Mandeville, 52, A lady suffering from Fibromyalgia, driven to the point of mental and physical breakdown by this governments welfare reforms. Jan was found dead in her home after battling the DWP for ESA and DLA.

      Trevor Drakard, 50 years old. A shy and reserved, severe epileptic who suffered regular and terrifying fits almost his entire life, hounded to suicide by the DWP who threatened to stop his life-line benefits.

      Death of a severely disabled Dorset resident, unnamed, who took her own life while battling the bedroom tax.


      • @GEOFF thanks mate that tells you quite a lot , not only can the withdrawal of benefits kill you but forced work can do exactly the same it seems . If they cant get you one way they will get you another . I see in Private Eye how DWP have been evasive over releasing the number of deaths due to Benefit Sanctions claiming its not in public interest . Oh really i fucking think it most certainly is

  11. £120 Billion Welfare Reform !! Is that £120 Billion over budget !! Not to mention the overheads with Maximus. Admin at it`s most wasteful. £100 a stamp £50 for the piece of paper for a letter. £10 a staple. Admin don`t pay tax on these work items. Shame the tax payer is paying for it all.

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  13. Have a lovely Christmas everyone on this blog and thanks to Mr Void for providing all the information and statistics regarding the DWP – it has been very helpfull to myself and to my friends. Wish I could see a live debate between Mr Void and Ian Duncan Smith on the telly. I know who would win hands down. xx

    • But don’t hold your breath, the benefit system is no longer there as a safety net …

      The real benefit fraud thousands of redundant JCP employees that have sanctioned the safety net to shreds, millions of pounds of taxpayers monies syphoned off to private welfare-to-work providers.

      IDS close the redundant JCP offices and terminate the WP contracts that syphon off taxpayers monies to fraudsters.

  14. What’s all this about CC stuff?

    I have refused to sign mine for over a month! Not worth the paper printed on mate!!!!!!

    FK all they can do about it! It holds my personal info they NEVER told me they were retaining so told them where to go! 4 x I/vws later still tried to coerce me to sign!

    NO WAY hosay!

  15. Because of the rise of retirement age people aged 60-66 are equally liable for Bedroom Tax, benefit sanctions and losing disabled / chronic sick benefits, but have been denied state pension payout since 2013, payable if remain in work (half of over 60s are within working poor) or lose job under the massive austerity job cuts, that will now double to 2 million after Autumn Budget.

    But the money is sitting pretty and cannot be used for anything else in the ring fenced and full National Insurance Fund for the one third that is committed to paying the state pension.

    And the money is being wrongly called a surplus.

    With the flat rate pension going to leave
    women born from 1953 and men born from 1951 with
    and the bulk of the rest with LESS NOT MORE state pension
    (lots of small print)

  16. Not at all surprised! I went in for my session with my “Work Coach” to discuss Job opportunities and Training,SFA,not interested in helping,just a gruelling session of what they will not do. Living in rural Wales,I find it hard to believe that there are over 6000 positions available within 20 miles according to UJM,the recovery? Pull the other one!

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  18. Sanction JCP offices, close them down there is no safety net to administer other than the wages of redundant JCP employees and greedy PCS union members.

    IDS close them down!

  19. Thousands of redundant JCP employees that administer sanctioned benefits.

    A waste of taxpayers monies IDS close JCP down.

  20. Redundant JCP managers that have sanctioned the safety net to shreds and have nothing left to do but tweet happy-babble at taxpayers expense.

    IDS close JCP down.

    • Too right, shut the fucking places down – and just pay JSA like a pension and at double the current rate (from the savings from shutting down the sanction centres)

      • Hear Hear, there are no jobs so benefits should just be paid automatically into the claimants bank, until a time when they decide to bring back real employment for someone other than poverty pimps and JSA staff.

        Make sure the pimps and JSA staff are sanctioned first before benefits are made automatic because these CULTS (or should there be an N in place of the L) should have a taste of their own medicine.

        So too should those involved with the psychobabble crap.


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    Shape and smell of things to come.

    • ……………and a very merry Christmas to all the members of the DWP and PCS UNION, for their orchestrated efforts to deny life to the weakest, infirm and vulnerable……………..

      May your rising mortality rates, suicides and acts of barbarity against fellow human beings, go vitually unnoticed as your campaign of ethnic cleansing gathers pace.

      Special Greetings from the family’s and loved ones of those you laid to rest acting on approval, Royal Assent, from our noble Queen Elizabeth II.

      • From: Clive Arnold

        23 December 2014

        Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

        I have been reading through Twitter feeds of JC+ employees and came
        about one by a Becky Newborough, Senior Operations Leader for
        Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire & Rutland district where she states
        that Spalding JCP where Ms Newborough states “Fantastic result for
        @SpaldingJCP who have hit all 4 of their JSA off flow in month
        targets, as well as their youth target at 39 weeks”.

        Now I have screen captured this post so that even if it gets
        deleted I will still have proof that it existed. I can forward this
        image on if you can supply me with an email address.

        The DWP and Mr Iain Duncan Smith have constantly denied there are
        targets in place to remove people from benefits.

        Given the above can you please tell me what each and every JCP
        targets are and who set them.

        Yours faithfully,

        Clive Arnold

        Link to this


          Readers were encouraged to join a protest outside
          the court on the day of the
          hearing of that challenge.
          Other campaign groups:
          Boycott Welfare was said to encourage other groups,
          as well as individuals, to take action against Placement Hosts. Website
          pages were exhibited in support of the claim that ac
          tion by local groups was
          being coordinated and information shared. Groups connected in this way
          included the Bristol Anarchist Federation, the Disabled People Against Cuts
          group, the Edinburgh Anti

          Cuts Alliance, a section of the International
          Workers Ass
          ociation and a blog publisher entitled “johnnyvoid”. The last
          named was said to engage in the encouragement of aggressive and possibly
          criminal targeting of any organisation known to be involved in the programmes

          an allegation that was supported by seve
          ral extracts exhibited to the witness

          Click to access Department%20for%20Work%20&%20Pensions%20EA.2014.0073,%200109%20&%200130%20%2822.12.2014%29.pdf


            In our view the DWP has not established, on the evidence it pres
            ented to us,
            that the identification of Placement Hosts will lead to a likelihood that they will
            be targeted in a relevant manner and/or to the extent that the public interest
            will be harmed to any material extent.
            We should add that, such are the weakne
            sses in the DWP’s case in
            establishing that disclosure will lead to any of the problematic issues it has
            identified (whether for Placement Hosts, Contract Providers or the operation
            of the Schemes as a whole), we would have reached the same conclusion
            if we had decided that other exemptions had been engaged and had
            been persuaded that the public interest factors against disclosure should be
            In light of the findings set out above we have concluded that:
            FOIA sections 29 and 43
            are not engaged;
            FOIA section 36 is engaged but the public interest test favours
            If we were wrong about the non

            engagement of sections 29 and 36,
            and if, as a consequence, the public interest factors militating against
            the disclosure sought wer
            e to be aggregated, the operation of the
            public interest test would still favour disclosure.
            In those circumstances the Information Commissioner was right to conclude
            that the DWP was not entitled to give a “neither confirm nor deny” response to
            the Sheehan and Sheldon information requests and should not have refused
            to disclose the information so
            ught in the Chance information request.
            Each of the appeals therefore fails and the DWP should respond to each of
            the information requests in the manner indicated in the relevant decision
            Our decision is unanimous
            Mr Christopher Ryan
            22 December

            • @Geoff i put in an FOI and got back not only a flat out rejection buy it came with a ” this request will be HIDDEN … freedom of what exactly ?,total bollocks total cover up,and denial

            • Ive contributed to johnny void blog for some time now on and off and i am shocked to see it cited and blamed in this report , campaigning against forced unpaid work and harsh sanctions you would think was a criminal offence according to this tribunal or case thing
              If you are using adobe reader and search for johnnyvoid and see how many times its mentioned and what is written is a disgrace,,
              The sue ryder case i have recollection of as i printed out copies of the blog where it mentioned that sue ryder charity was using unpaid workers claiming they were just ” volunteers” which was rubbish some were claimants forced to work at sue ryder shops
              I remember this event as i had handed a few printouts to customers of sue ryder shops in order to create awareness of what was really going on with that company i also remember exposing the sue ryder company when i found it was meeting influential people with a view that that would take over parts of the NHS and in doing so would receive large sums of govt money

              So is this campaigning against this stuff now seen as criminal and even more worrying being monitored and misused as ” evidence ” ??

              This was an email i sent to friends after downloading that PDF and adding it as an attachment to those emails

              Shocked to see ” johnnyvoid” and other campaigning groups slighted and misrepresented in that doc, never thought i would ever see that stuff happen to be honest

          • @GEOFF so does that mean that subscribers to this blog are all deemed crimimals and that JohnnyVoid would be ” The Ring Leader” haha

            Yeah when the state fucks up it needs scapegoats to blame and distract away from the real culprits

            • Read the BBC news this morning Bob, it cites a case in London where protestors were on the balcony of a closed down grade 2 listed bank. Not one mention of what they were protesting about, but it went on to say they would be cooking dinners for the homeless……………………
              The media are complicit in a war against the impoverished and infirm to such an extent that it is definitely a class war that will eventually spark human tensions and rioting will ensue.
              Their house of cards is rocking from side to side with every revelation that seeps out, the evil that manifests itself in positions of power is showing through the torn fabric of the real society.

              As long as we have a collective voice we are an adversary to be reckoned with.

              • @GEOFF aw thank you mate very kind of you indeed and thats from my privatised care home where they dont give a fuck

                We are on same side fighting against the stuck up arrogance and sense of privilege these politicians lords etc all have thinking that we as little people do not matter just pay them to keep them in privilege and entitlement whether its us to be worked to,death or starved to death or our children to be raped and tortured by them its all the same evil arrogance

      • How many times to I have to tell you . . . . .

        You obviously didn’t read my comment on the previous thread ! . . .

        ER II

        is NOT N O T N O T

        repeat N O T

        the FKNG monarch . . .

        Read my comment on the previous thread.

        She’s a

        F K I N G

        fraud !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        F R A U D !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        Doesn’t anyone read my facts ????????????????????????????

        Her Coronation was a F R A U D

        N U L L & V O I D – I L L E G A L !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


        HISTORICAL FACT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        She’s NOT the Queen, NEVER has been NEVER will.

        Her only title by law is :

        W A R C R I M I N A L

        and is OFFICIALLY

        deemed responsible for serial:

        ‘WAR CRIMES


        By law she has been convicted and sentenced to

        25 YEARS

        for her atrocities

        against The Convention of Human Rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        F A C T !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        . . . . . . . . . . . . . ………………………………

  22. Well i haven’t got past the first page and i found this because it’s the usual rubbish ..”Our aim is to help people find and remain in work to ensure work pays” Robert Devereux Permanet Secetary..
    So how come i am being pimped to a so called charity for no Pay , no training, no hope then! ………or does he mean i will be in work and they pay the charity to offer me no pay, no training, no hope!
    And this report costs how much to report!

  23. does anybody else rember the good old days when the job center actually helped you find a job when there were all thses cards on the wall and you took the number gave it to the member of staff on the desk and they got you an interview. and when the job club sent people on courses that were actually useful like the forklift truck driving course.

    does anybody else here remember that..

    • overburdenddonkey

      oh yes… when they just said ‘have you done any work since you last signed’ and ‘sign here!’
      there’s a typical days of yore signing scene in the ‘full monty….’

      • overburdenddonkey,

        Signed on then and now, then the naked humiliation could be dispelled with the full monty humour, now the naked humiliation evokes the images of cast off corpses.

    • Yeah, I remember them days! You didn’t even have to be unemployed. You picked up a card if you fancied a change of job, then the advisor arranged interview for you and even offered to ring you if a suitable job came in. These people still work for the Jobcentre and are as bewildered as we are, they can’t wait to retire. Xx

  24. No longer a safety net but a torcher rack going from fortnight to fortnight in total fear of sanction and destitution, fear to the extreme that a claimant will embrace the refuge of servitude.

    That is not a safety net and anyone that thinks they are defending social security by defending JCP is politically naïve and delusional in their act of solidarity.

  25. Always ironic when a Government solution costs much more to administer than to deliver/give etc.

    A few years ago there was talk about online-only signing on. Sounded very pie-in-the-sky and “whats the catch?”

    Would save enough money to eliminate the needs for those benefit sanctions. Most jobcentre staff and welfare-to-work provider staff are the lowest of the low anyway so for them to lose their “jobs” would be good.

    • And you, Universal Jobmatch can sod off with your endless fake scamming jobs that repeat themselves more than twice across all pages and are identical in every town.

  26. Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!

    The latest Tweets from Sandra Lambert (@CEDirector_WSD). Director responsible for 149 Jobcentres in Central England Department for Work and Pensions.

    How much for that twiiter crap £60,000 a year !!

    Twitter gone down – What twitter targets 500 tweets a week promoting DWP targets – with the DWP policy of not setting targets.

    I see the Contradiction Policy is working.

  27. Cameron taking pride in the country’s ‘christian values’ and of ‘looking after others’ What a bloody hypocrite.

    • Dear Chairman Cameron of the never elected party, thank you for ruining any semblance of Christmas with your vomit inducing hubris. You said…

      “Among the joyous celebrations we will reflect on those very Christian values of giving, sharing and taking care of others,”

      “This Christmas I think we can be very proud as a country at how we honour these values through helping those in need at home and around the world.”

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” with 13 million people living in poverty, including 27% of the 2.5million resident children.

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” where one million people in this country are now relying on food banks run by charities, a shocking rise of 163% on the previous 12 months.

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” when 80,000 sanctions will be meted out by the DWP this Christmas. Saving the coalition £19 million in JSA alone.
      Another £700,000 will be saved by the DWP from 6,800 disabled people on ESA.

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” where 93,000 children in the fourth richest country in the world will be homeless at Christmas this year.

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” when last Year 31,000 people died from cold, with over-75s accounting for 26,500 winter related deaths.

      You think we should be “very proud as a country” with the cost of living rising three times faster than wages.

      I could go on but I am too busy being ashamed of this country…

      • Well said stilloaks. You said everything i was thinking about that pile of shit that gigantic hypocrite Cameron spewed out. I was too depressed about the state of this country and someone having the friggin’ cheek to spout that garbage despite what people are suffering to write out what i felt.

        I’m glad you wrote it mate.

  28. As the state engaged terrorsism known as ‘Social Insecurity’ blunders along under it’s own momentum, destroying lives, causing devastation and misery in it’s wake, happily backslapping it’s most obnoxious ‘Admnistrators and Managers’ at the cost of the Public Purse (you and me) – there’s an irony – we’re actually paying these fuckers!

    I was on a work programme – Avanta b******s!!! i happened to miss an appointment it filtered back to the jobcebtre my interrogtor asked me why i did not attend i asked the interrogator if he was making up his quota of 3 sanctions a week in order to keep his poxy job i told him it was common knowledge that that was a requirement and had been leaked by someone in the DWP’s own department he denied it saying he was ‘only doing his job’ no furher action was taken on that occasion.

    We fight these fuckers by being aware of our rights, and sharing that information with everyone on the receiving end of this kind of treatment. We are people. We are strong. We are not unemployed because we wish to be unemployed – more and more people are becoming aware of the shamness, falsehood, lies and abject brutality of the way our society is heading. We fight this by sharing our knowledge. Meanwhile, Io Saturnalia (Happy Christmas, everyone) 🙂

    • Sir Stephen Hawking (Voice of Microsoft Sam)

      You really need to brush up on you astronomy, jaston25: Io is one of Jupiter’s 67 moons 😀 (and here we are making do with ONE lol , must be gorgeous the Jovian night sky though 🙂 )

  29. im going to say the “unsayable” young women have worked out,have kids and they cant touch you,sanctions what sanctions?,if they have a partner the partner will be sanctioned not the mother,i say this from direct knowledge,not hearsay,if your single no kids your fucked,if your a woman who can bear children then get pregnant,yes you may end up in tempory accomodation but ultimately your kids will save you,its pretty much bussiness as usual…crisis what crisis? until now i really didnt buy into this idea until now as i now have seen it first hand…on a lighter note thank you mr void for this superb site

    • I can’t believe this — attacking the overprivileged mothers, who supposedly get pregnant to avoid work and collect benefits. ‘Only’ the partner will be sanctioned — and this doesn’t affect the kids? Your kids will save you if you’re homeless? Are you not aware of the numbers of homeless children; are you not aware of the ‘social’ workers poised to snatch children for the mother’s crime of being poor and badly housed (though they always find some more palatable excuse)? (Cue torrent of abuse from these saintly professionals, who are under so much pressure from Tory cuts blah blah.) Are you not aware that IDS requires unemployed mothers to attend ‘work-focused interviews’ when the child is 1, and to go to work when the child is 5?

      Take your pick of scapegoats: immigrants, lazy young people, greedy pensioners, single mothers — any other candidates? Sure, single childless people are fucked, but so is anyone else without a well-paid job.

      Whatever happened to solidarity?

      • The left destroyed solidarity in their quest for new revolutionaries and the utopian society. The working class are not moving to the right per se, but are fleeing the idiosyncratic political self indulgences of the left.

    • RIP David Clapson

      Too fucking right, it is single guys with no kids like David Clapson RIP who get fucked over and totally destroyed. Women with kids always have a ‘human shield’ which at least offer some protection: “if you stop ma money the little ‘uns will suffer 😦 “

      • The DWP place special emphasis on if you are SINGLE and have NO KIDS almost like you are TARGETED FOR ELIMINATION. Totallygivenupspeaks the truth although, as always the ‘politically correct’ (that’s you Katherine Perlo) will deny it… 🙂

        • They will target almost anyone – or, in fact – anyone.

          Single parents (more often than not women) are amongst those who have been regularly hit by sanctions. And so, by definition, are any dependent children who have had to go without – whatever, including heating, lighting, adequate amounts of food, clothing, money to travel to school in some cases/their uniforms to be laundered. Right back to the stigma which existed in the 40s/50s – if stuck with no ‘back up plan’ it was clearly apparent and could lead to a bad time at home & at school.

          The second ‘lone parent adviser’ I had to see every fortnight was ‘old school’ – not too far off retiring/had seen all of the changes that have come in. He was a (half)-decent human being who would spend time trying to do ‘in-work’ calculations for something ‘constructive’ to do. Before him, though, and again directly afterwards (before being sent on the work programme where it was much the same – pot-luck) were two advisers (both were women – so much for solidarity between women – I hope neither were parents themselves) who made it their mission to find a ‘reason’ / tired all the possible ways to find job search evidence ‘not good enough’. The second of these was much nastier than all 3 put together.

          This has all been well documented (lone parents/people with learning difficulties/mental health problems/young people/older-less computer literate people). There is no need to mention the fact that an adviser could be racist/homophobic – there are more-than enough targets amongst the general population within & in-among these groups, to satisfy their sadism.

          No-one should be ‘sanctioned’ & no-one deserves this to happen to them more than anyone else. Even the casual, commonly accepted use of this term meaning ‘To take away someone’s chief source of income’ is unconscionable.

  30. Christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat
    Iain Duncan Smith is a silly old twat.

    One can imagine that he will be stuffing his fat face for the next few days in his castle with turkey, goose, expensive wine and chocolates all from Harrods with money awarded to him for stripping us peasants of our meagre JSA or ESA.

    I hope he fucking chokes to death over his christmas dinner tomorrow and thus, this will spare us all of being future robbed of our decency and well-being from his bollocked-up sanctions and mis-work programme.

    I would have been expected by him, through his massive failure CWP – SEETEC CAN FUCK OFF – to attend my placement today and all of next week, except New Year’s Day if I had not completed a JCP holiday form, and which I would have instead missed my christmas telly and a chance to properly relax, put my feet up and enjoy the festive season with a box of chocolates. Two weeks of not getting up at 6:00am, in order to just having to fuck about for no money, all the while fat-face smithy is one smug fucktard at me and gets Seetec £250 a week through my forced, illegal CWP attendance.

    I went onto my Universal job mis-match account yesterday morning and the cheeky wankers at my JCP had the audacity to wish me a merry christmas via an alert message. The only merry christmas I will get is when they fucking give me more money a week to survive on until I can finally get back into work after endless rejections of my perfectly acceptable CV.

    I only hope that the bald-headed tosspot smithy does NOT ever get knighted in the New Year’s honours list – otherwise this will be seen as a complete contempt for everybody else below him.

  31. Nice to see the DWP facebook page getting all festive with their Guardian newspaper link


    Next, the DWP will be telling us Santa is actualy employed by them to make sure we are nice or if we are naughty we won’t get our meagre JSA rations and our christmas present is a further five years stuck on CWP…

  32. Merry Christmas everybody, despite the DWP doing their best to spoil things.

  33. Yeah, Merry Christmas all, and Happy New Year, I guess …


    Stealing benefits from the disabled has given you both an enviable income that will see you both enjoying the trimmings afforded to the able bodied, unfortunately, your victims will be suffering the hardship that you enforced…………..

    My Christmas lunch will take no preparation or energy costs.

    Out of date luncheon meat slices with egg and some crispbreads, dry.

    Enjoy the opulence afforded to those who police the government welfare cuts………………..

    The £33.20 per week that you left me to survive on is probably less than your hourly rate.

    Chew your ill gotten gains carefully as we would not like to see you choke.

    “The Disabled of Scarborough and District”

  35. department for deciet and sanctions

    fuck you duncan smith you fat lying cunt! and fuck all you heartless sanction center plus workers! i hope you slip in your kitchen on a lump of goose fat and break your fucking necks!

  36. May I wish ALL those who are unemployed on this informative site, especially Johnny, a very good Xmas, and the Best for the future for those who are suffering under the uncalled for, unjust and unwanted sanctions they suffer from.

    As for those who maliciously have supported, aided and abetted this regime. I pass to you all this Fact which will come to pass – not for all of you but enough to make me smile “May You Live in interesting Times”. And you will, believe me you will. No milk of human kindness for you. When it happens to you, enjoy. I can assure you, that I will when the tables turn on you scum.

  37. Apart from mistaking the modern system as capitalism and no slave marxism, spot on

  38. Boris Johnson - Mayor of London

    Have any of you scroungers who purport to be starving, reliant on food-banks and all that poppycock never considered a career as an after-dinner speaker? You would get to gorge yourself silly on the finest of cuisine and trouser a shed-load to boot. Plenty of opportunity to grope pretty waitresses too if one is that way inclined…

    Merry Christmas,


  39. Jobseeker WARNING

    Hey jobseekers – make sure that you don’t ‘slack off’ on your jobsearch over the Chrimbo period – universal sanction match will be online tomorrow and New Year’s Day so make sure you log-on to your account ‘and apply for all suitable jobs’, yeah I know its Christmas day… but remember that when you sign-on again after the ‘two-week holiday’ the jobcentre will expect/demand evidence of the past 4 weeks. Don’t be caught out (and sanctioned in the New Year)… the jobcentre sanction machine will be waiting………………..

    • You Christmas is only for the rich don’t you know…
      Chargrilled partridge, vodka salmon and guinea fowl with figs: MPs’ lavish lunches for the price of a pizza… subsidised by YOU the taxpayer

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2883819/Chargrilled-partridge-vodka-salmon-guinea-fowl-figs-MPs-lavish-lunches-price-pizza-subsidised-taxpayer.html#ixzz3MrIvAOwB 
      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

      At our expense of course

    • Well I’m not doing any jobsearching today or tomorrow, so the DWP lunatics can all sod off and choke on their christmas dinner of grouse and turkey today. Seeing my JCP advisors send me christmas greetings as an alert on my UJM account is one thing, but expecting me to spend all day today job-searching is another. Bollocks to that nonsense. I’m enjoying today and don’t want it spoilt by some jumped-up little tin-pot hitler hiding behind a desk in DWP towers, namely one Idiotic Dumhpkoff Shite who I see as the anti-christ anyways.

      I hope he chokes to death over his lavish Christmas dinner, paid for out of all the money stolen from jobseekers in the name of illegal sanctions imposed on them for petty things such as attending hospital appointments of job interviews that clash with their JCP attendence times.

      The best christmas present would be that he gets sacked and thrown in jail for all the people who have died under his regime of sanctions, bedroom taxes and other nasties we yet don’t know about. Fat, fucking, greedy, ugly shiteall may be a scrooge to us all today, but he can clearly fuck off and go back to playing with his dolls-house.

    • A lot of jobseekers are going to get busted over this, can’t wait… 🙂 Hang ’em jobseekers high… 🙂

  40. Hopefully the sheriff and her men will be one of them, getting sacked and sanctioned all at the same time!

  41. For reasons of being afeared of the already searing battle going on between Labour and The Greens, the Greens’ Leader Ms Bennett has not put into the Greens’ 2015 manifesto a couple of policies, that would end the cruel benefits regime and starvation at a stroke for all ages, from kids to grannies.

    One is the automatic and universal Citizen Income, in or out of work and not requriing to be actively seeking work as just basic money to survive for all, without all the billions wasted on benefits admin.

    Full State Pension to all citizens, irregardless of National Insurance contribution / credit history, to same amount as Citizen Income.

    Both of these will be to the basic tax allowance (this will be £10,600 last I heard for 2015-2016 tax year), and have a supplement for those living alone and for the disabled.

    Ask your local Green candidate for 2015 general election now, as the Greens are in the process early next year in voting in policies for their 2015 manifesto and these two life-saving policies for you and me by the tens of millions of people are not yet on the Greens’ election pledges for the general election.

    Ask why these policies have been omitted, when with them The Greens could form a majority government in the UK parliament in London by gaining the 303 Labour and Lib Dems seats predicted for 2015.

    • One is the automatic and universal Citizen Income, in or out of work and not requriing to be actively seeking work as just basic money to survive for all, without all the billions wasted on benefits admin.

      A universal citizens income would not be needed as survival for the rich and is the reason I am against wasting billions giving yet more money to them, most of which have opted out of not only NI contributions, but also using tax avoidance or evasion when and where they can.

      • overburdenddonkey

        if a UCI pays enough for vitality giving vitals of life then that is surely enough…who cares about the rich and what they get…who indecently will be taxed @ a much higher rate and there will be a greater demand to close tax loop holes and end tax evasion….as well as the admin costs of individuals claiming benefits etc, billions will also be saved in other services like the N ill Service aka the nhs…the whole scheme would likely be administered through the tax system…a UCI on it’s own could drive rents down by the personal choice of moving, redistributing populations, to now sparsely populated rural areas of the UK,….coupled to land rights and building millions of more eco-homes (inc self build) would further drive housing costs down….a distributive tax system works in many countries…nordic countries ie denmark …but because of there being no jobs for many, in the UK and much of europe, a UCI is vital…and will eventually fully restructure european economy…and create many new sustainable jobs, by cause of redistribution of wealth…it will tend to grow our economy in a sustainable way…
        the idea is to tax the rich to pay the poor…no one rich no one poor…the knock on affects of UCI will be of enormous benefit…
        the greens must not surrender to neoliberal policies and must move away from them…
        UCI removes the power from many of the revenge/punishment profitization tormentors of our culture, and will be transformative…

        • I think as long as you allow the rich and powerful to stay wealthy, they will use that wealth to destroy a lifestyle you envisage before you have had chance to tax them out of the equation.
          They will no doubt be joined by the noveau riche to stop your dream of fairness and economic distribution.
          The only way forward is for a new type of currency that has to be earned, not bought with existing currency and not in the hands of yet another power of greed and corruption.
          A universal income will not be fair!

          • overburdenddonkey

            but they will stop any form of alt currency with the tax system…ie lets…
            money was invented coz some products were difficult to store…money allows the energy/fat of products to be stored and TAXED sustainably…

            • Why would you give them money they don’t need via a universal income, while taxing money they have in excess, it just doesn’t make sense.
              It would be easier to take control of the banks and freeze their bank accounts and assets to justify giving them a basic income (but that would only take care of wealth they have in this country, not what is siphoned off and hid abroad), which you would have no jurisdiction over.

              • overburdenddonkey

                typo; ‘who indecently will be taxed’ should read; who incidentally will be taxed’
                ‘Why would you give them money they don’t need via a universal income, while taxing money they have in excess, it just doesn’t make sense.’
                it would guarantee an income’s safety net is always in place…
                remove any stigma eventually…
                no one rich, no one poor…so that people can earn more than UCI/EBI/BCI…it’s a start, as i have already stated…the idea is to merge income’s so extreme’s no longer happen…
                you’re also sampling 2 current extremes…
                the tax system already works by ie taxing income @ different rates and from PA’s…there would be a cross over point where a person no longer receive’s the advantage of UBI…it would be worked out on paper to balance account’s…
                with other types of general taxation such as VAT corp tax etc…
                what would your solution be to inequality of incomes, one that removes sanction’s and conditionality (bullying)? many people are suffering real hardships, right now!
                this is a blog post, i haven’t the time nor the energy, nor the space to make a more detailed one off responce, which no doubt i’ll be required to do over and over again…other than what i already have…a UBI seems like a very good idea to me i put it out there, you don’t like it ok…come up with a workable solution yourself?

                • To tell people to come up with a workable solution as a way of justifying your inadequate solution,( which by the way has more holes in it than a colander) is not conducive to good policy making.

                  I am sure I could come up with something more realistic than giving rich people an extra income in order to alleviate the poverty of the poor (which
                  I do not believe it will do in the long run anyway).

                  You seem happy to swallow anything the Green party tell you and fail to see the problems not only with UBI but with immigration or the European Union, which seems to be working against the people of this country not for them.
                  An amalgamated Europe appears to be a force working as a united front against the enemy within, than any perceived encroaching enemy they like to conjure up.

                • And in the meantime whole housing estates are given away to private developers like Barratts and a few million quid chucked at them for good measure
                  Yep support the rich makes ( no ) sense at all

                • overburdenddonkey

                  ‘To tell people to come up with a workable solution as a way of justifying your inadequate solution,’
                  no! i haven’t said that @ all, i have some ideas, and had the guts to post them, for comment or ridicule from others… i post seeking truth from others of the pitfalls of any argument or whatever….i mean you might have better ideas and solutions than me, that i can work on…that is how progress is made..i’m asking you to explain your ideas of course, but only if you want to… it can mean that you are not ready to do so, or many others things but the idea of a forum is to exchange and express ideas…and yes i think you should explain to me the pitfalls, instead of being completely dismissive and without having any alt ideas is not fair enough…that you can’t come up with any ideas atm your self does not make your gut reaction to my post invalid or crap… ultimately if everyone on this planet only had a £, money would be worthless, it only gains worth as a trading commodity when some have more than others…it’s a totally unfair way of the valuation/distribution of what is ultimately energy/fat or a way of storing and trading perishable goods, and paying for solid non-perishable infrastructure, but it’s the best we do atm…

        • No-one rich, no-one poor – dream on (except those that have money hidden abroad they can dip into whenever they like)
          You need one world economy to stop the capitalist in their tracks.

          Getting tax out of the rich is like getting blood out of a stone now, so how do you think a Green party can achieve this, without sending the rich off to some tax haven to deposit their money.

          I am not in favour of throwing money at the rich which is obvious, I also prefer cutting out the middleman whenever possible, i.e. selfbuild projects too for hospitals and other public buildings instead of PFI’s, but you have to have money in the kitty to start these projects, why else would the labour party have used PFI’s????

          Why did Europe decide to take 5 years pension off British women if it was working for people in this country?
          Why is it desirable for Europeans to move from one country to another to alleviate poverty if it is working in the interest of all of it’s member countries?

          We need to belong to a one world economy and not the one that has the lowest income levels for it’s citizens or tax havens for the rich to profit from.
          The European Union is just another elitist club, who consider it’s ordinary citizens to be the enemy within given the type of decisions they are making.

          • overburdenddonkey

            1 denmark and nordic countries + pensions very high sweden £26000/yr denmark £14000/yr, germans want 63 ret age.
            sweden is experimenting with 6hr working day trials going well. danish chip fryer gets £13/hr + massive social benefits. but atm there are not enough jobs in the uk due to the profitisation and asset stripping of what once was nationalised industry and services.
            2 capitalism/neoliberalism is 1 world economy + TTIP.
            3 i will not be voting green. i am an environmentalist, and i have other voting choices. all PP’s should have robust environmental polices.
            4 the UK could have stopped tax haven’s, it chose not to, it spannered a european deal that would have stopped them.
            5 UBI/EBI/BCI/UCI doesn’t give money to the rich it give’s it to the poor, it has to be enough for vitality giving vitals of life as i have stated.
            i don’t care how much money the rich have, and shame on them for their greed, a citizen’s income will shrink their power over the poor and their wealth. http://basicincome2013.eu/en/index.html it’s a citizen initiative.
            6 your are referring to the pensions age esculator which affects PGC for men, meaning men and women are affected, and robbed of pension’s. the UK wanted it. currently 62 and a bit for men and women.
            7 ESC recommend 40% increase in benefits, the UK has refused to implement it.
            8 see this vid on NHS and why the use of PFI, as nhs millstone that there was/is no need for, and why labour and tory set up the 2012 social care act. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkTnCtg_Omk the need for PFI was/is a complete fiction.
            9 we also need equitable land rights, imv all land and property should be state owned and rented.
            10 we need a citizen run investment bank.
            11 perma-cuture and eco-villages.
            12 please stop blaming the EU for what the UK establishment are doing.
            13 the greens do endorsed ‘the land is ours’ an org that i have sympathies with.
            14 all must have a decent income re point 5.
            15 the rich have power over poor coz they control our vitality giving vitals of life, this method has been used since the plough/agriculture came into being.
            skara brea…

  42. …………………….and don’t forget, Miss Piggy aka Sandra Lambert, will be on your screens, starring in the “MUPPETS CHRISTMAS PARTY”

    a PCS production.

  43. Boycott Workfare, sanctions are the leverage that wags the workfare dog.

    Efforts should be aimed at JCP and busting sanctions, this takes the fight straight to government and not some insignificant social entrepreneur or third sector poverty pimp several times removed from government.

  44. Watch moment Iain Duncan Smith LAUGHS during Bedroom Tax debate sparking outrage – 17th Dec 2014

  45. From Hot Shot Hamish – ” redistributing populations, to now sparsely populated rural areas of the UK,….coupled to land rights and building MILLIONS of more eco-homes (inc self build) would further drive housing costs down… ” Wonder if the Greens tthink destroying more of the British countryside is a good idea.

    • overburdenddonkey

      fact; the vast majority of the UK pop is crammed into 3m acres of the 60m acres of available land, and much of what is used is very poorly utilized..


    Sarah Conner left an annotation (19 September 2014)

    Judge comments

    During the hearing the Judge made the following observations:

    Social Media allows members of the public on unpaid workfare to disclose the names of workfare placement hosts and they are under no duty of confidentiality. That much of the media attention had been caused by Tesco ‘shooting itself in the foot’ over recruitment adverts for unpaid workfare in it’s supermarkets.

    DWP take note workfare providers are shooting themselves in the foot by advertising for unpaid workers



    Dear Georgina Smith,

    Thank you for your Freedom of Information (FoI) request received on 26 November 2014. You

    I wanted to find out if an existing PIP award had to be taken into account by a DWP DM
    in the same way a DLA award is (as PIP has replaced DLA) when assessing a
    claimant’s claim for another benefit, such as ESA. I asked for any data relating to this
    requirement, should it exist: law, legislation, guidelines, internal memos, etc. This data
    was not provided or it’s absence explained.

    You asked the Department whether case law in a
    particular case which currently applies to DLA would also be applied to PIP. As the
    Department has not considered this issue, it does not fall within the scope of the Freedom of
    Information Act 2000 and the Department need not answer it.

    If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number

    Yours sincerely,

    DWP Strategy FoI Team


      dla evidence

      CE/2894/2011 [2012] UKUT 256 (AAC) holds that the tribunal also erred in law by not considering the possible relevance of the existing award of DLA or, if they did consider it, by indicating what they made of it, adding that –

      “While the tests for the two benefits are not the same, there is sufficient common ground that one may provide material evidence for the other.”

  48. Blood and Soil

  49. http://policy.greenparty.org.uk/cy.html
    So according to my fellow Briton the Green party’s policy is to defend elitism/entitlement and is simply centries old propaganda…

    • The New Age Greens holiday on poverty pilgrimage to India and bring back their infantile applause for the basic and “sustainable” lifestyle of the Mumbai slums. They are reminiscent of 60s hippies but this time their Guru is Muhammad Yunus.

    • Landless Peasant

      Vote Green.

  50. overburdenddonkey

    and your point is?
    i said; ‘the greens must not surrender to neoliberal policies and must move away from them…’

  51. With a majority ageing population would the housing crisis not be corrected in a couple of decades?

    Land reform in Scotland and basic access to security of shelter are two completely different issues.

  52. Landless Peasant

    The Government perpetuates the myth of Austerity whilst filling their own pockets, gulping down their Champagne, and continually throwing away Billions of £s of public money hand over fist whilst blaming it all on the poor, and half the country believes them! Only an Act of God can save us now, please send an earthquake/tsunami/Pole Shift and destroy London.

  53. overburdenddonkey

    in 10m acres 1/6th of the uk’s land mass @ a rate of 2 homes/acre = 20m homes say @ 4 persons/ household = 80m people…current population of the uk is approx 64m, we have a static, even falling birthrate most crammed into 3m acres…millions of acres are given over to very destructive fast growing nutrient ripping, city tax break, over priced land, growing sitka spruce, originally planted for ww1 trench shuttering and pit props, even named as vertical structures, not even called trees…the damage done by grazing and other activities is immense, the landscape of the uk countryside is mainly industrial/man made with very little natural ecology @ all, mere remnant’s of once great forests remaining….as far as i’m concerned all housing and land should be rented and owned by the people of the uk..of the 3m acres the vast maj of people are crammed into much is poorly utilized…cedar is a wonderful renewable building product and millions of acres of mixed native species woodlands can be planted for house building which would also provide healthy habitats for wildlife…land planted for bio-mass/fuels is simply destructive and unsustainable and is built on victorian and past industrial planning the benefactoring need for, if there ever truly was one, has simply ceased to exist,,,there are millions of acres of uk marginal land that could be used for tree planting and housing, leaving millions of acres free for growing food….land use planning in the uk is appalling, and primarily based on feeding the imp-establishment, yes, the childish infantile establishment, ok, ya!.. there is little perma culture and few eco-villages in the uk almost all land housing etc etc is profitized to flow towards the rich/establishment…but then many want to be ruled and lead with an iron fist, and actively try to prevent human nature from rearing it’s ugly head…god forbid the MYTH of chaos and anarchy caused by freewill and a drastic fall in organised misery caused by the profitization of human beings…
    google; cedar houses on tofino coast …. click on images…..
    http://gen.ecovillage.org/ in reality the UK is underpopulated, most people tacitly claiming that they don’t deserve any space to occupy, unless they have earn’t it from those who claim they have and are entitled to have the power to allocate human rights as privileges..they don’t one does….
    read the ‘the man who planted trees…’
    nimby tory/labour localism will destroy even more lives and habitat..
    heaven’s here on earth and if one looks carefully heart can be seen in earth…with creativity even, home is where the hearth is….we are in the 21st century, it’s about time we lived in it!

    • Another sanction and I will be building an off grid hovel on squatted land, f*ck being the homeless stock of self righteous social entrepreneurs.

      Should never have relinquished the right to bear arms.

      • overburdenddonkey

        mr r
        been there done that…make sure you get a good jotul…a handcart for carrying tat…a tarp bender or yurt (ger) with sheep’s wool felt for insulation, snug as bug…use coppiced ash for poles beech for burning although ash doesn’t need seasoning and also burns well, beech hotter…. chill beer in stream… beware of ‘geerrorff my laaannnd you fucking ‘ippy’… 🙂

        • overburdenddonkey

          all you nee now is a BCI/UCI….. and free as a bird! 🙂

        • That legacy of recreational hut building may soon become a necessity of survival, would start with a garden shed (couple of hundred pounds) built on a scavenged piece of land. The Institutional collective of civic Scotland would probably be the spoiler.

          • overburdenddonkey

            mr r
            all true….learn the ropes civic scotland climbs….it’s not as bad as it was and imv the indyref has broken much ice in certain quarters…mostly scots; is live and let live ime…rural’s are much different than edinburgh…is leith still sunny? millions of scots now want a way out of imp federal colonial lifestyle time to build it is now….

            • The last ship to be launched at the LEITH SHIPYARDS of HENRY ROBB in 1983 ending more than 660 years of shipbuilding in the Port.

              As I watched the launch from the quayside at Chancelot Mill the Sun definitely dimmed over Leith.

              • overburdenddonkey

                mr r
                i love ships and the sea….i’ve got one of my grandad’s seaman’s book, he went to sea in 1914 sailed all round the world on r m ships, trooping in ww1 ships he was in sunk…he served for years on the titanic’s sister ship the olympic as a fireman/trimmer and a cleaner…survived that and ww2…and was finally knocked down by a bus, silly git…
                his 1st ship… http://www.clydeships.co.uk/view.php?ref=9008

                • Sorry no link, but, (uplifting!): ‘Shipbuilding’ (The Unthanks).

                • overburdenddonkey

                  s n
                  after all that he ended up unloading, by hand mostly, ships holds as a docker @ the mercy of the tallyman..long story but often they had to fight each other for a tally ‘entitlement’ to do backbreaking work in ships hold’s…the thing is their were no unions but plenty of hard labour….now there are unions but with no power, no work and no land to go back to…damn war and the industrial revolution it has brought nothing but misery for billions…and bounty for the phew…if only they knew what we know?
                  people talk about an aganda21 conspiracy, it has already happened long ago, people driven into cities from the land to people the satanic mills…but i still marvel @ ships, shipbuilding, and the sea…and the people who were forced to believed that severe toil would set them free, it doesn’t…it’s heartbreaking to know that they were slaves, and that they didn’t…
                  ‘the cheviot the stag and the black black oil…’ and ‘days of hope’….
                  the only clink of light i see is in indyscot and the movement spreading throughout the uk…it’s time people took back their political power…
                  common weal…

                • obd ~ just been reading ‘Harvest’ (Jim Crace) which tells of a small rural community gradually being dismantled and then scattered/sheep and looms having been brought in to replace their crops/livelihood. The dark satanic mills that (still) stand near to where some of my family lives are ‘luxury’ flats/an art gallery now. At least children no longer work in/are killed working in them. When my mum was growing up, her dad worked in local soap factory – I think most if the neighbours dad’s probably too (where is soap made now?!) . I’ve no idea what their contracted hours were – quite sure Saturdays were included in the working week though – perhaps just Sat. morning?. A social club was conveniently placed further up the road for evenings off entertainment – (?) also owned by the factory owners – factory was called ‘Owners’ Family Name’.

                  Someone where I’ve been working just now said the other day that management take on board union reps’ views “less than they used to now” – they are there/attend meetings etc., – but compared to any influence/power they may have in the not-distant past. Knowing that many workers consider themselves ‘fortunate’ just to have a job & fortunate to have received a mini-pay rise, rather than none/redundancy. We’ve made so much and yet so little progress …

                • “Someone where I’ve been working just now said the other day that management take on board union reps’ views “less than they used to now”

                  That’s because half of them are not joining a union – so much for solidarity.

  54. cameron the penury tzar
    gorges on champagne and caviar
    triples his doulble chin
    as families scour skip,food banks and bin
    babys in hospital
    for malnutrition and rickets
    as the penury tzar plays
    boxing day cricket.

  55. DWP PRESS RELEASE – 26th Dec 2014

    Jobcentre staff targeting blitz at unusual locations: taking work support direct to jobseekers

    How Jobcentre staff are taking work support direct to jobseekers in unusual locations.

    With a jobs revolution sweeping the country, Jobcentre staff are getting out and about and taking work support direct to jobseekers as part of a new blitz targeting unusual locations –from football clubs to prisons and homeless shelters.

    Read More:

    • With a jobs revolution sweeping the country, …

      Could it be that there is a jobs revolution sweeping the country and that society has become compulsively obsessed with employment status.

      Would I dispute the jobs revolution psychosis claimed by the DWP, maybe not.

      “Arbeit macht frei” UK.

  56. wakeupbeforeitstoolate

    Reblogged this on Wake Up Before It's Too Late.

  57. Seetec are determined to spoil my christmas break it seems after I have now had two seperate phone calls this morning from two different people at their head office.

    Both times they were wanting to know why I wasn’t doing jobsearch last Tuesday in their crappy little Wisbech office after I had already told the cunts I was taking a booked two-week holiday approved by my JCP. Stupid little twats on the phone twice this morning obviously were not told by JCP nor Wisbech Seetec that I was taking a well-earned xmas holiday – they all don’t know what the other is doing or saying – no wonder the whole work programme system is completely fucked up big time.

    Roll on 20th January when I shall stick my two fingers up at them all for wasting my fucking time for nothing and trying to fuck me over with crappy zero-hour vacancies or trying to get me into a job at Poundworld – where the management at Poundworld are themselves fucked up and don’t give a toss about their employees.

    • overburdenddonkey

      it’s easy for them to get a post office proof of posting cert, for any letters they send to you…you don’t need a phone…

    • …………..just tried to access the “WHAT DO THEY KNOW” website and managed to get into the DWP section.

      Upon trying to access a freedom of information request involving DWP SANCTION TARGETS my laptop suddenly locked and “BAD GATEWAY” was displayed.
      The powers that be are already fucking with peoples computer links way ahead of the election, the dirty fighting has already begun as it did in the Scottish Referendum.


  58. seetec are gormless

    @fen tiger them fucking mongs at seetec used to fuck me about in there lkittle stinking Manchester branch but trust me i won there silly fucking games Don’t complain to ICE there all in it together the bunch of twats. send them a a cease and desist letter, i got mine from a family member who works in law! they soon left me alone in fact for 15 months they sent my mandatory appointment letter to the wrong address! so i ne ver did most of the two year term on there shit pcs running XP .resulting in a sanction on my claim twice a week, caused me untold troubles but i got the fucking lot back dated and i am now pushing for compensation! i have a 194 page binder full of there bull shit! 100% proof that there corrupt cunts! take no shit from them there akin to Nazi’s . all the best for the new year

  59. seetec are gormless

    they only care for there fee they offered me fuck all lost two years of my life fighting the cunts

  60. seetec are gormless

    they offered me nothing in the form of training etc

    • ‘WORKING LINKS’ are the worst of the lot. Bottom feeding scum suckers. The worst examples of humanity going around. Just wonder how many people they’ve got sanctioned by the DWP?

  61. Reblogged this on amnesiaclinic and commented:
    Double the dole seems like the solution to me after sacking the bossy managers and the work programmes making everyone’s life a misery.
    Can be done if we insist!

  62. Minister hides truth over office access

    By john pring DNS – 29th Dec 2014

    The disability minister has refused to say whether he has taken any measures to remove access barriers that could prevent disabled people visiting his constituency office.

    Disability News Service (DNS) revealed earlier this month that Mark Harper had been accused of hypocrisy after he called for shops and restaurants across the country to improve their access, even though his own high street office in Gloucestershire was inaccessible to many wheelchair-users.

    Read more:

  63. http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/29/scottish-government-oil-revenue-forecast
    SNP’s lies to the Scottish people exposed. Their little online acolytes will probably be on soon trying to argue that White is Black.

    • overburdenddonkey

      post it to me in 2yrs time when scotland would have been indy if scotland voted yes…as you well know it didn’t or have you forgotten…

    • Fenriss,

      Is your nationalism based on the oil price.

      Risk Warning – investing in nationalism is not without risk. Shares and investments in nationalism, can go down as well as up.

  64. Blood against Gold. True British Nationalism, not the ersatz haggis version.

  65. I DID A WHAT DO THEY KNOW and my request came back with REJECTED and HIDDEN

  66. Seetec can go fuck themselves for all I care. They are only interested in screwing £250 per week out of me, and yet I am the one having to do all the fucking work while they sit on their fat arses pretending to look busy at their computers, but in reality do fuck all.

    Seetec wisbech office try to push all of their clients only into zero-hour jobs or self-employment – neither of which guarantees regular work or pay. Those dippy cunts tried it on with me on both, claiming I would be better off by going self-employed, saying if I would work for myself for £20 more a week than I currently get, would I take it? After being in proper work for a decent wage, until made redundant, I’d rather tell them to get stuffed for insulting my character, with a non-starter idea that would have put me in debt if I did take up their so-called of employment.

    Two fucking weeks left with that load of old cobblers of so-called employment consultants. All I have had from them is a completely fucked up CV; and both my spec letter and cover letter which were typed up (on my behalf), by the dippy manager, are identical word for word. Now I know a cover and spec letter are supposed to help me back into work, but having them both written the same won’t do fuck all for me. Once I leave the stupid scheme I will have my CV back the WAY I want it, not badly typed up for me by someone calling themselves an expert in CV writing…

    Sorry, Seetec. But you won’t get your £1000 back to work bonus out of me as I refused to let you kowtow me into work during my 6 months of hell. PROFIT BEFORE PEOPLE IS THE MANTRA OF ALL WORK PROGRAMME SCHEMES. FUCK THE SYSTEM. i AM A FREE PERSON, NOT A NUMBER OR STATISTIC ON YOUR SCAM, ILLEGAL SLAVERY SCHEME!

      • overburdenddonkey

        ‘The TUC’s Hugh Robertson: “We are very supportive of the principles behind this”


        The government would like you to believe that there are no targets, yet Freud is bragging of £165 million savings…………….

        ask yourselves how it is possible to project savings without setting targets? Even Noddy would not be as thick to dismiss the obvious link.

        In a freedom of information request to the DWP, a question was asked about assessments being done by phone, apparently it is going on at this moment.

        Ask yourselves, how the fuck is it possible to ascertain a persons health over a phone call.

        It transpires this is a common tactic used by the US based disability denial arm of the private health industry, MAXIMUS…………….

        10 December 2014

        Dear Operations FOI Requests,

        Thank you for your reply.

        I feel that two questions need clarifying firstly, your response to
        my question number 1 referred me to a link and paragraph number but
        it doesn’t answer the question. Nowhere in the link that you
        provided does it mention assessors conducting telephone
        assessments? So again my question is-,
        Do the Departments Guidelines allow for the PIP providers to
        conduct part of the assessment by phone?

        In your response to my question 6 you state that the information
        I’m requesting is not held at your department. So can you kindly
        tell me who I would need to contact to get this information please?

        Yours faithfully,

        Ms K Sutton

        Link to this

        It seems the DWP will stop at nothing in their quest to exterminate the poor and disabled, even trying to block the release of 60 peer reviews into the deaths of its latest victims.


        Since when has it been commonplace to deprive those who are most vulnerable, of the right to live?

        • Maximus illegal practice – You can`t have a medical over the phone, just like you can`t have a medical behind bullet proof glass down a jobcentre.

          Maximus will save the british government £165 million so Maximus is there to run the UK`s economy saving IDS £300 million next.

          So the people in power are not dodgy dave as PM but dodgy dave with ATOS/Maximus interest profit without being taxed. Problem is there is not enough time dodgy dave has been fucked up by the election getting In the way.

          Cut corners shoddy outcome. GP`s are pissed off already.
          So Maximus runs dodgy daves dictatorship then !!

        • @GEOFF I see this attitude in the same arrogant murderous way as the rigged suspect teresa may historic csa enquiry
          Namely that VIP monied establish types can torture abuse maim kill the most vulnerable in soceity and if challenged the response is ” mind your own business donr poke your nose into private concerns”

          As i said earlier i submitted an FOI request about a serious offender connected to Home Office and not only was my request rejected it was marked HIDDEN which goes against the spirit of freedom of information

          • FOI Requests that are too touchy get put in the shredder bin.

          • “THE GOVERNMENTS GOLDEN GANG OF KIDDYFIDDLERS, THE UNTOUCHABLES” control Theresa Mays actions regarding a proper inquiry into sex abuse of children……………………
            When you have masons, judges, senior police and government ministers all pulling strings to distract from their vile hobbies, nothing will ever be done…………………..

            Kids did get murdered , kids lives were ruined, but the truth will always be kept secret………………

            The Chilcott Inquiry will soon have the thirty year rule placed upon it. too many arseholes are puckering at the thought of it’s release.


    We all now realise the DWP and it’s twisted children, are above the law………………

    While the, in pocket judicial system looks the other way, our weakest on the bottom rung of the social ladder, are being sent to early graves, courtesy of the AMERICAN PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES who now control our government ministers like puppets……………………

    How is it possible to for an organisation of public servants to try and withhold information that would incriminate them in acts of ETHNIC CLEANSING?

    The following paragraphs show how far the DWP will stoop to try and escape capture from it’s shoot to kill sanctions policy;

    A Freedom of Information request by the Disability News Service has revealed that the DWP has carried out “60 peer reviews following the death of a customer” since February 2012. A peer review is triggered when suicide or alleged suicide is “associated with a DWP activity”, according to its internal guidance.

    Despite growing concern over the way benefits are administered in relation to vulnerable individuals, and amid a number of reports of related deaths, the department told the Guardian it had no plans to publish the reviews.






  68. Ebola british fuck up – Protect dodgy daves election fuck up. The cover up is making it spread. Daves fucked up the election. Fuck off in shame Dave.

  69. A world where there are no letters & paper & no proof. Great for confidence tricksters & crap for the ones with no proof. A letter written & posted has no meaning, which means letters & words have no meaning so I might as well spelt it all rong.

  70. Charged with illegal practice covers the MP`s & Corporate Manslaughter covers the DWP. Now get your lawyers to try & change the law in 4 months. But the lawyers can`t change the law the MPs are the ones to change the law. Back to the top MP`s illegal practice. You have not changed the law yet.

    • To do that proves it is a dictatorship.

      • Dictatorship is a form of government where political authority is monopolized by a single person or political entity, and exercised through various mechanisms to ensure the entity’s power remains strong.[1][2]

        A dictatorship is a type of authoritarianism, in which politicians regulate nearly every aspect of the public and private behavior of normal people. Dictatorships and totalitarianism generally employ political propaganda to decrease the influence of proponents of alternative governing systems.


        ……………….Whoever wrote this news article for the BBC wants fucking…..

        “Passengers on flights she took to the UK are being traced, but officials say the risk to the public is very low.”

        How the fuck can any officials state what is obviously complete bullshit?

        The uk government have failed in everything they have done, the number of u turns a political joke…………..

        We now have ebola on our shores and they try to play it down best they can because cost saving exercises have exposed the population to a killer virus that could decimate this tiny island in a matter of months. maybe weeks………

        Any body with any modicum of sense would have realised that sending nursing staff to an infected country then welcoming them back was the most idiotic plan ever executed. The returning helpers should have gone through the most vigorous health checks imaginable, yet the price of doing this was inhibitive.

        With hospital A & E departments teetering on breaking point, people waiting and being left in ambulances and corridors and GP’s not able to see patients quickly, evokes a nightmare scenario………………..

        Just how many people came into contact with the contaminated person will never be known. Multiply this figure by those individuals who have in turn, done the same and your are looking at an epedemic of unimaginable proportions.

        …………………We are being fed a diet of bullshit in an effort to dispel fear.


  72. How Lord Frauds gagging order going. Put him back in his box.

  73. So Thalidomide never existed. Can you prove that it never existed? NO so stop playing the game of a confidence trickster.

  74. Access to Work crisis: Campaigners secure first legal victory

    By john pring DNS – 29th Dec 2014

    The government has agreed to publish secret guidance that shows who is eligible for support under its under-fire Access to Work (AtW) scheme, after it was threatened with legal action by Deaf and disabled campaigners.

    Lawyers for the Stop Changes to Access to Work (SCAW) campaign have secured the promise in a letter from the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP).

    Read More:


      The Centre for Policy Studies (CPS) is a free-market British policy think tank whose goal is to promote coherent and practical public policy, to roll back the state, reform public services, support communities, and challenge threats to Britain’s independence.[1] Although identified as non-partisan, the Centre has strong historical links to the Conservative Party.

      It was co-founded by Conservatives Sir Keith Joseph, Alfred Sherman and Margaret Thatcher[2]

  75. DWP Dec 2014

    Work Programme: Best Practice Report – DWP Response

    The Government welcomes the Work Programme: Building Best Practice Group’s report, which contains recommendations that will support improvements to the current programme and inform the development of future programmes. We have accepted the vast majority of the recommendations that the group has made; some will be more difficult to put into practice than others, but we have already begun to implement many of them. The recommendations from the report are excerpted below, along with the Government’s response to them.

    Career’s Development Group
    Community Links
    Ixion Holdings
    Pertemps People Development Group
    The Prince’s Trust
    Rehab Jobfit
    Tomorrow’s People
    Working Links


    Click to access government-response-work-programme-best-practice-report.pdf

    £200,000 on a report that talks shit. Money laundering again DWP.

    • Third sector 19th Dec 2014

      Government will reform Work Programme to improve engagement with voluntary sector

      A report from the Department for Work and Pensions says it accepts most of the recommendations of a best practice group, including lengthening the tendering period

      The Department for Work and Pensions has agreed to make a series of reforms to the Work Programme to improve engagement with voluntary sector organisations.

      A report published by the DWP yesterday responds to recommendations from the Work Programme Building Best Practice Group, which includes voluntary organisations and contractors.

      Read More:

      • “””McHugh said referrals to the Work Programme were falling and it was unlikely there would be an increase before existing contracts end, which is expected to happen between 2015 and 2017.

        “What we need to do is safeguard the capacity of those that are in the scheme,” said McHugh. “We can’t increase the number of voluntary organisations; we need to protect the ones we’ve got.”

        The best practice group includes the contractors G4S, Serco and Pertemps, and the voluntary sector representatives the NCVO and the ERSA.””””

  76. G4S, the company with no convictions – but does it have blood on its hands?

    The number of deaths linked to G4S employees, some with racial overtones, means this company must have a problem. When will it be held to account?

    The Guardian Monday 22 December 2014

    The racist texts found on the phones of two of the three G4S security guards who escorted Angolan deportee Jimmy Mubenga to his death in 2009 required a double take. One text, written by defendant Stuart Tribelnig, read: “Fuck off and go home you free-loading, benefit-grabbing, kid-producing, violent, non-English speaking cocksuckers and take those hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, goat-fucking, smelly raghead bastards with you”. Meanwhile, 76 racist texts were found on the phone of G4S guard Terrence Hughes, which were targeted at black Africans, Asians and Muslims.

    Read More:

      • The judge in the trial was already knobbled to produce a favourable outcome for G4S.
        Texts on the phones were deliberately ignored by this bent judge. Money and influence are the only justice in the UK and have been ever since the judicial system was invented, its who you know, not how guilty you are.

        We consistently murder at will and nothing ever happens, the Brazillian electrician assassinated on a tube train and a police officer downing an innocent newspaper seller come to mind……..
        In the second case the police used a bent coroner to falsify the cause of the mans death, later to be struck off when it was exposed that he had been used in several police investigations to concoct dodgy coroners reports.
        Nobody was ever charged in either case, but the G4S case should be reopened immediately now the full context of the assailants phone has come to light………………………….or deliberately buried, as i see it.

    • “”””These tragedies have happened too many times in too many different situations in too many countries to not believe that G4S has a systemic problem. Is it systemically racist or systemically incompetent?

      Yes, in extreme cases individual employees will be charged (and inevitably cleared) of manslaughter. But perhaps it is only when G4S knows that it will be charged with corporate manslaughter if somebody in their care dies unnecessarily, that they will ensure they recruit responsibly and learn how to look after people in their care without killing them.””””

  77. G4S and Serco won Whitehall work despite being ‘on probation’

    FT Dec 10th 2014

    Five government departments awarded G4S and Serco fresh work during a period in which Whitehall “gave the impression” that all business with the two outsourcing companies was on hold until the outcome of a review.

    The Cabinet Office was widely understood to have barred Serco and G4S from winning new government work until they had they undergone a period of “corporate renewal” after both companies were referred to the Serious Fraud Office for overcharging on electronic monitoring contracts.

    But an investigation by the Commons public accounts committee found that the two companies were quietly awarded 14 pieces of additional work worth £350m in the probation period that ended in February for Serco and in April for G4S.

    Read More:

    • CONT.

      The committee found that “the quantum of additional work that was awarded to the companies during the period was not clearly communicated to parliament at the time”. It demonstrated that the government remained overdependent on G4S and Serco, which were in a “quasi-monopoly position” and therefore “too big to fail”.

      Margaret Hodge, who chairs the public accounts committee, said “the impression the government left was that all business with these two companies was on hold until the outcome of a review”. “Instead, what we uncovered was that they had given extensions and new contracts,” she said.

      The Department of Health, the Ministry of Justice, the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills, the Ministry of Defence and HM Revenue & Customs all gave the companies new work during the period of apparent purdah.

      The contracts came despite a statement by Chris Grayling, the justice secretary, in October in which he said the government was investigating all contracts held by the companies worth more than £10m. “We will not be awarding the companies any new contracts unless or until those audits are completed to our satisfaction,” he said.

      The Cabinet Office told the committee it was unable to blacklist companies from new contracts because of EU procurement restrictions. It said it believed “the “government worked within legal and operational necessity constraints to limit work placed with both companies”.

      Both G4S and Serco remain under investigation by the SFO for overcharging on contracts to electronically tag prisoners, including offenders who had died. Serco also lost a contract providing out of hours GP services in Cornwall after it was found to have altered performance data and remains under investigation by City of London police for manipulating figures on contracts to escort prisoners to court.

      The cross-party committee said that too often “the ethical standards of contractors had been found wanting”. “A culture of revenue- and profit-driven performance incentives has too often been misaligned with the needs of the public who fund and depend on these services,” it said.

      But the watchdog also urged the government to pay more attention to contract management given that the private sector delivers about £90bn of services on behalf of the public sector — almost half of public sector expenditure. Although Ms Hodge welcome government initiatives to improve monitoring in the wake of the tagging scandal, she said the improvements “were on the margin”.

      A Serco spokesperson said yesterday: “Since the events of 2013 Serco has put in place a corporate renewal programme that was positively assessed by the Government Oversight Group, and has strengthened internal management systems and governance. There has also been significant changes within the senior management of the company.”

      G4S said: “We are pleased to have been able to contribute to the inquiry. We welcome improved contract management processes and more effective engagement with contracting government departments. We think this will lead to improved services and greater value for money for the taxpayer.”

  78. From: Gary Martin

    23 December 2014

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    The Minister (Iain Duncan Smith) has said on many occasions, both
    inside and outside of the Houses of Parliament that 70% of DLA
    claimants received a lifetime award without ever seeing anyone.
    Could you provide me with the proof of this statistic.

    Yours sincerely,

    Gary Martin


  79. EBOLA imported economy class.

    Scottish Government,
    Why are EBOLA interventionists not transported back to UK in isolation and collectively quarantined on return?

    Doubt NHS Scotland could handle even a minor outbreak competently, why are Scots being put at risk for the self righteous pride of the amateurish charity sector.

    • overburdenddonkey

      mr r
      give charities a break, they’re facing WP ‘work cure’s all ail’s’ revenue stream saturation, coz it doesn’t…’is that with or without fries’ ‘we’re @ your service, have a nice day’… however it’s well worth listening to this reassuring clip….. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04vjg95

      • overburdenddonkey

        ps from the beginning just after the news…

        • overburdenddonkey,

          Nicola Sturgeon could use her favourite NHS Scotland public health escape clause asserting that the victims all died from “underlying health problems”.

          Yes Nicola most Scots will have “underlying health problems” but that may not be what actually killed them. Specific diseases and infections as well as medical incompetence can be called out.

          • overburdenddonkey

            mr r
            aye, the under lying or could be something else, that’s the problem, never fails to be said… did you listen to all of the ebola news clip, shade over 21mins from start?

    • Yeah, why aren’t these CV-enhancing fuckers who willingly play dice with others live not transported by military plane to an outpost somewhere in Siberia and quarantined for six months before even thinking about allowing them to set foot on UK soil.

  80. …thought the BBC was on the “Boycott list “


    Following months of complaints about allegedly unfair and slapdash decisions made by Atos, the Department for Work and Pensions audited around 400 of the company’s written reports into disability claimants, grading them A to C. Of these, 41 per cent came back with a C, meaning they were unacceptable and did not meet the required standard.

    The findings mean the company will be stripped of its monopoly on deciding whether people with disabilities are fit to work. The DWP said the poor quality of the company’s written reports were “contractually unacceptable” and announced on Monday it would be inviting other companies to bid for fresh regional contracts by summer 2014 to help reduce waiting times. Liam Byrne, the shadow Work and Pensions Secretary, said: “This is a direct consequence of three years of appalling contract management by Iain Duncan Smith.”

  82. “Why don’t the DWP just add him to their mortality statistics that they are trying so hard to hide?”

    Disabled man has benefits cut on CHRISTMAS DAY as he’s deemed fit to work

    Dec 27, 2014 22:47

    A disabled man had his benefits slashed on Christmas Day – after Scrooge officials insisted he was well enough to work.

    Richard Crabbe,44, has complex learning difficulties and is unable to use a computer, cook without help or even go shopping on his own.

    But disability benefits assessment firm Atos axed his £339 monthly severe ­disablement allowance from December 25 after claiming he was fit to work.

    Richard lives with three others in a flat supported by charity Mencap.

    He earns £331 a month from a part-time job at Homebase, where he gets a lot of help from supportive colleagues.

    This is topped up with £304 a month disability living ­allowance – but losing the severe ­disablement allowance has cut his income by a third, leaving him fearing a homeless and hungry future.

    He said: “It was a very sad Christmas and I’m worried I’m going to be poor and won’t have enough money for food shopping.”

    Atos, whose government contract ends early next year following criticism of its techniques, asked Richard a series of simple questions before ruling he was able to carry out numerous tasks unaided.

    Its report wrongly said Richard lived alone and could care for himself.

    Dad Dick, 75, said: “Richard will answer ‘yes’ or ‘no’ if he thinks it’s the right answer but may not necessarily understand the question.

    “They say he’s able to use a keyboard and a mouse. While that’s probably true he won’t necessarily know what to do with them – so he can’t use a computer.

    “It’s clear he’s been judged by someone with no understanding of his disabilities.”

    Now Richard, of Bedford, must apply for employment and support allowance.

    Mencap’s James Bolton said ­assessments were seriously flawed, adding: “Richard’s ­experience has left him scared, believing he could become homeless.”

    “The Department for Work and Pensions said: “Anyone who disagrees with a decision can appeal. We are bringing in a new assessor to replace Atos.”

    ……………………..wonderful words of comfort from the department with a licence to kill……………


      The first fortnight of December saw a record 159,04 patients being admitted into hospital from A&E departments – up from 150,482 last year. Monday 8 December was the worst day of the winter so far, with 410 ‘elective’ operations cancelled at short notice.

      A&E departments also saw a shocking 17,886 patients left waiting for admittance on hospital trolleys for up to 12 hours, more than double the 7,684 for the same period last year.



  83. What is the difference between the hunger of absolute poverty and the hunger of relative poverty?

    After a claimant is sanctioned and left with no money for food is that hungry Brit still relatively and magically better nourished than a slumdog with enough rupees to do the weekly family shop.

    No hunger or need for food in the UK as the air is full of nutrients from politician talking shite about absolute and relative poverty.

  84. Which one will kill first the malnutrition of absolute poverty or relative poverty?

    Will a sanctioned claimant starve at a negligible rate or not at all because his millionaire neighbours fridge is well stocked or that he abodes relatively close to Holyrood Palace.

  85. It won’t be a Happy New Year for Nick Clegg when his little yellow party gets trashed by the voters.

  86. Green Party leader reported saying being on benefits in Britain is worse than being poor in India – and then claims she was misquoted.

    On poverty Nigel Farage is a closet cultural relativist – the South Asian poor are worthy of compassion while the British poor are unworthy criminals fit only to be slaves.

    • Green leader Natalie Bennett bravely ventures out from her green cultural relativist shell only to be forced to retreat by the cultural relativism of Nigel Farage . 🙂

      • overburdenddonkey

        mr r
        i was just going to post more or less the same thing, they collude to get attention neither knowing what poverty actually is and both vigorously fighting to maintain their positions of privilege, we the people, to ensure that they never do know…’another false flag argument, brought to you by political elites, neoliberal UKOK PLC’….

  87. The cultural relativists poverty equaliser – British relative poverty to be sanctioned to the level of South Asian absolute poverty.

  88. At least 2015 won’t be a Happy New Year for Nick Clegg.


      Disabled dad ordered to prove he’s unfit for work – two months after he DIED

      Dec 31, 2014 11:36

      The grieving widow of Stuart Mullins, 53, hit out after her late husband was asked to undergo the medical tests for Disability Living Allowance.

      Stuart Mullins, 53,A father from Newport in South Wales who was sent a letter asking him to go for a health check-up for disability benefits – two months after he died

      A dad was sent a letter asking him to go on a health check-up for disability benefits – two months after he died.

      The grieving widow of Stuart Mullins, 53, hit out today after her late husband was asked to undergo the medical tests for Disability Living Allowance.

      Widow Julia, 54, registered his death on October 15 using the Tell Us Once service – meant to ensure a death is reported to most government organisations at once.

      But she was outraged to get a letter addressed to her husband from Atos Healthcare to carry out the disability benefits check for the Department of Work and Pensions.

      Mrs Mullins said: “It was disgusting, absolutely disgusting. I was so upset and it was really upsetting at the time as you are already missing someone at Christmas.”

      The letter, dated December 21, requested that Stuart attend an assessment for his benefit claim at Newport Medical Examination Centre on January 20.

      But Stuart, of Newport, South Wales, died from cancer on October 14.

      Wales News Service Stuart Mullins
      Letter: Atos sent it months after Stuart’s death

      Father-of-one Stuart had using a walking stick and wheelchair due to limited mobility in his left leg and ankle.

      He was claiming Disability Living Allowance for his immobility.

      Stuart died at his family home in Somerton, Newport, just months after being diagnosed.

      Mrs Mullins said: “He was a lovely, wonderful man. He made so many people happy and he is sorely missed.”

      Atos Healthcare – which provides independent assessments on behalf of the DWP for a range of government benefit schemes – has apologised for the blunder.

      A spokeswoman for Atos said: “We are sorry for any distress this has caused.

      “Unfortunately, unless we are asked by the Department to withdraw a case from our system, we will automatically send out a letter.”

      A DWP spokeswoman said: “Our thoughts are with the family of Mr Mullins.

      “We are sincerely sorry for the mistake that was made and understand the distress that this has caused.”

      • Rate:
        Samuel Miller

        4:47 PM on 23/12/2014

        This is a heartless decision by the DWP. Jon Ball should immediately ask for the decision to be looked at again – this known as a ‘mandatory reconsideration’. He may be able to claim other benefits during this time, such as hardship payments. He’s probably unfit for Jobseeker’s allowance (JSA). He should seek further advice especially if he has no money to live on.

        Although I reside in Canada, Since January 2012 I have been reporting voluntarily to the UN’s human rights office, in Geneva, on the welfare crisis for Britain’s sick and disabled.

      • Atos still on the governments books after contract has ended.


        Widow’s disgust after husband sent disability assessment letter two months after he died

        Wales Online: 31st Dec 2014

        Julia Mullins’ husband Stuart had died from cancer in October

        A widow has branded health-care officials “disgusting” after a disability assessment letter was sent to her husband more than two months after he had died.

        To add to her pain Julia Mullins, 54, was sent the letter from Atos Healthcare just days before Christmas.

        Her husband Stuart died just two months after being diagnosed with cancer in August.

        He was given 12 months to live, but the cancer was so aggressive he died on October 14.

        The 53-year-old had been claiming Disability Living Allowance because he was using a walking stick and a wheelchair after an operation on his twisted foot when he was a youngster.

        Read More:


      A 133-kilogram man has won a “landmark” case in the British High Court after judges ruled his obesity classified as a disability and that he had been discriminated against by his employers.

      John Walker, 49, from Cornwall, was dismissed from his post as an IT manager at Sita Information Networking Computing UK. According to his employers, he had spent seven years off work due to health problems, which included asthma, high blood pressure and diabetes.

      Walker originally lost the case when the court did not classify him as “disabled” due to his weight, although the decision was overturned on appeal. It is now understood that Walker has received a “six-figure” settlement from a health insurance company.

      • ………………..another potential DWP Mortality statistic?

        A WHEELCHAIR-BOUND man from Littlehampton has been left ‘devastated’ after the Government axed his disability allowances just days before Christmas.

        Jon Ball, of The Cape, has suffered from Klinefelter’s syndrome all his life. It’s a condition which has left him in constant pain and in need of heavy doses of medication.

        However, this month, the Department for Works and Pensions (DWP), which provides his incapacity benefit and disability allowance, said he was no longer eligible for support

        Jon, 59, said: “When that news came through, it was devastating to say the least.

        “It’s something that didn’t make any sense to me. I was still in a wheelchair and couldn’t do anything about it.

        “Apparently, I’m fit for work, which is a total joke.”

        Mr Ball is currently unemployed due to his illness. However, he had previously worked as a delivery driver and car valet among other jobs. He explained that due to his condition, he was forced to take dozens of pain relief and muscle relaxant tablets a day just to get by.

        However, he tries to live as independently as possible.

        “I have had the condition all my life but it only came to a head in 1990 when I became paraplegic,” he said. “That put me in a wheelchair.

        “The condition means I have constant pain in my legs, back, joints muscles and skin.

        “Imagine when you are hit and given a numb leg. Well, the pain that comes in after that is what I have 24-7.

        “If I’m not in bed, I have to crawl upstairs to it. So I’m normally just sat in my wheelchair.”

        In July, Mr Ball took part in an assessment test at Atos Healthcare, in Brighton, to see whether he still qualified for his allowances.

        However, after months of waiting, the news was broken to him earlier this month that he would be losing his £600 per month support.

        He said: “The impact on me is massive. I’m trying to run a house but I can’t because I have no money coming in and my last payment was today (Friday).”

        A spokesman from the DWP stood by the move and explained the decision on whether someone was well enough to work was taken following a ‘thorough independent assessment’, and ‘after consideration of all the supporting medical evidence ‘ of a GP or a medical specialist.

        “The work capability assessment is designed to look at what someone can do with the right support – rather than just writing people off on sickness benefits as happened in the past,” he said.

        “Everyone is entitled to request a reconsideration on a decision made on their claim.

        “However, Mr Ball has not asked us to do this.”

  89. Edinburgh Hogmanay celebrations a totalitarian events management policed by G4S.

    We want our streets back.

  90. Stop DWP Disability Hate Crime NOW !!! That is what it is. So DWP stop talking to me in that way. The DWP can`t stop talking in that way to disabled people degrading & words of hate which makes it a crime in Disability Hate Crime. Abuse your own laws & rules DWP it is still called Disability Hate Crime with proof from the DWP`s own admission. Guilty. That includes IDS, Lord Fraud, Dodgy Dave, Mark Lazy Harper, Esther McVey & all MP`s that ignore the facts. Talking loud & saying nothing in Disability Hate Crime just handing out threats & sanctions with degrading results. 900,000 have now been sanctioned.


  91. Happy spew year for all of those that had enough money to get drunk!



    These are statements from the governments own website, yet the DWP CONTINUE TO STEAL THE BENEFITS FROM THOSE AFFECTED…

    What ‘substantial’ and ‘long-term’ mean

    ‘substantial’ is more than minor or trivial – eg it takes much longer than it usually would to complete a daily task like getting dressed

    ‘long-term’ means 12 months or more – eg a breathing condition that develops as a result of a lung infection

    There are special rules about recurring or fluctuating conditions, for example, arthritis. For more details about the special rules download the ‘Equality Act Guidance’.

    Download ‘Equality Act Guidance’ (PDF, 789KB)
    Progressive conditions

    A progressive condition is a condition that gets worse over time. People with progressive conditions can be classed as disabled.

    However, you automatically meet the disability definition under the Equality Act 2010 from the day you’re diagnosed with HIV infection, cancer or multiple sclerosis.




  93. “These people make up the EQUALITY AND HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION”

    They are funded to look the other way and do absolutely fuck all while the government runs it’s private ethnic cleansing programme against those least likely to put up a fight………………..

    The Commissioners

    The Chair of the Commission is Baroness Onora O’Neill and Mark Hammond is the Chief Executive. Baroness O’Neill and Mark are backed by a senior management team who are all major players in the equalities and human rights field. They are supported by statutory committees for Disability, Scotland and Wales.

    On 14 January 2013 the new Board for the Commission was announced by Maria Miller, Minister for Women and Equalities.

    Baroness Onora O’Neill (chair)
    Caroline Waters OBE (Deputy Chair)
    Ann Beynon OBE (Wales Commissioner)
    Kaliani Lyle (Scotland Commissioner)
    Lord Chris Holmes (Disability Commissioner)
    Evelyn Asante-Mensah OBE
    Laura Carstensen
    Professor Swaran Singh
    Sarah Veale CBE



  94. Now that OBESITY has been recognised as a form of disability, should the DWP Work Capability Assessments be rewritten to encompass this important change that may have significant impact on a claimants assessment.
    If no such changes were made to the assessments it could lead to an unprecedented number of appeals.

    Given than this important change must now be taken into consideration when doing an assessment of someones ability to work, such in ESA or PIP, has this opened up the doors for reappraisals, and who would ultimately foot the bill?

    Council Directive 2000/78/EC of 27 November 2000 establishing a general framework for equal treatment in employment and occupation must be interpreted as meaning that the obesity of a worker constitutes a ‘disability’ within the meaning of that directive where it entails a limitation resulting in particular from long-term physical, mental or psychological impairments which in interaction with various barriers may hinder the full and effective participation of the person concerned in professional life on an equal basis with other workers. It is for the national court to determine whether, in the main proceedings, those conditions are met………………………

    ……….Watch the DWP try to wriggle free of this new can of worms that has been unexpectedly thrown into the ring !!!

  95. “Police dismantle soup kitchen for London homeless, evict activists”


  96. Katie `Scum` Hopkins for the gas chamber

    Katie Hopkins reported to police for ‘hate crimes against overweight people’ in new TV show

    The Independent Thursday 01 January 2015

    The former Apprentice contestant Katie Hopkins has annoyed a lot of people in her time on social media – but it seems she may have now gone too far after she was apparently reported to the police for committing a “hate crime” against an overweight woman.

    In an incident recorded for a new TV programme about her own weight loss, Hopkins stages a panel discussion with five people who, it is claimed, represent the interests of those with weight issues.

    Hopkins has previously said that all “fat people are lazy”, and in an openly insulting exchange told campaigner Kathryn Szrodecki that “it is not healthy to carry that much weight on your knees”.

    Read More:

  97. sleeping less bcause of a DWP stazi

    I wonder what Britons favourite anarchist will post in the new year,
    happy new year to all the helpful people here


    ………………Seems such a simple question yet they shop and change the answers to suit themselves.

    This is the latest interpretation;

    “There is no specific law which states that you need a certain amount of money to live on. The
    wording “the amount the law says you need to live on” is still used in some of our notification

    ………..yet it used to be this:

    “In response to your question, income-related benefits such as Jobseeker’s Allowance are paid
    at a rate set by Parliament each year. The amount is intended to cover all normal day to day
    living expenses. The amount of benefit payable depends on the individual circumstances of
    the claimant and their family ”

    and this:

    “The rate of Jobseeker’s Allowance is not determined by ‘living costs’ and so is not possible to
    provide a breakdown on that basis. It does not include separate amounts for specific items of
    expenditure such as food or fuel charges.
    Rather the Government firmly believe that claimants should be free to spend their benefit as
    they see fit, in light of their individual needs and preferences, rather than having a set pattern
    of expenditure imposed on them ”

    and earlier still:

    “There are several different pieces of primary legislation, under which regulations are made,
    which cover entitlement to, and other aspects of, income-related benefit payments. The main
    acts are the Jobseekers Act 1995 which governs Jobseeker’s Allowance; the Social Security
    Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 which governs Income Support; the Welfare Reform Act
    2007 which governs Employment and Support Allowance; and the State Pension Credit Act
    2002 which governs State Pension Credit”

    ……………….not to mention this:

    “In setting the rates of benefit the Government needs to take account of the competing
    demands on public expenditure and work incentives. Benefit rates are not an aggregate of
    separate amounts for specific items of expenditure such as food or fuel charges. The
    Government has not prescribed what expenses the personal allowances cover as it is for each
    individual or family unit to decide how to spend their benefit, in the light of their individual
    needs and preferences.”

    ,,,,,,,,,,,,oh, and this as well:

    “Dear Geoffrey Reynolds,

    Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 26 April. You asked;

    Has an exercise ever been done to quantify if £71 would be enough to sustain a human being?


    We are not aware of any exercises undertaken by Government on adequacy of benefits.”



    …………………perhaps the main reason of poverty and deaths that the DWP are trying desperately to cover up.



      Dear Mr Reynolds,

      Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 23 April 2013. You asked;

      You recently quoted these paragraphs below, in a FOI request I sent you.

      The European Convention of Human Rights does not give an automatic right to receive
      benefit. Where a State does provide benefits, there is no right to a particular amount. The
      Government has set the rate of benefits at an amount that it believes to be reasonable, and to
      ensure that no individual suffers destitution. This is compatible with the Convention .



    …………….seems almost uncanny that they cannot identify any links?

    • …………….sorry twenty three thousand, nine hundred.


        The level of UK benefits paid in pensions, jobseeker’s allowance and incapacity benefit is “manifestly inadequate” because it falls below 40% of the median income of European states, according to the Council of Europe in Strasbourg.


    The Council of Europe, which has 47 member states, said the conclusions were legally binding in the same way that judgments relating to the European convention on human rights had to be applied by member states.

    However, the DWP suggested the findings merely had to be “taken into account” by British courts when assessing claims. The difference of interpretation is likely to lead to lengthy disputes when ministers attend the next round of meetings in Strasbourg.


      Here’s the ranking – with the most generous countries at the top (you have to go right to the bottom to find the UK):
      Country Gross Replacement Rate, year 1 Ranking
      Netherlands 0.7 1
      Switzerland 0.687 2
      Sweden 0.685 3
      Portugal 0.65 4
      Spain 0.635 5
      Norway 0.624 6
      Algeria 0.612 7
      Taiwan 0.6 8
      Ukraine 0.56 9
      Italy 0.527 10
      Denmark 0.521 11
      Russia 0.505 12
      Tunisia 0.5 13
      Finland 0.494 14
      France 0.479 15
      Bulgaria 0.473 16
      Canada 0.459 17
      Romania 0.45 18
      Hong Kong 0.41 19
      Austria 0.398 20
      Belgium 0.373 21
      Argentina 0.354 22
      Germany 0.353 23
      Greece 0.346 24
      Azerbaijan 0.338 25
      Egypt 0.329 26
      Venezuela 0.325 27
      Belarus 0.313 28
      Israel 0.307 29
      Japan 0.289 30
      United States 0.275 31
      Kyrgyzstan 0.255 32
      New Zealand 0.254 33
      Latvia 0.253 34
      India 0.25 38
      Korea, South 0.25 37
      Uruguay 0.25 36
      Uzbekistan 0.25 35
      Ireland 0.238 39
      Hungary 0.235 40
      Poland 0.226 41
      Czech Republic 0.225 42
      Australia 0.21 43
      Turkey 0.206 44
      Albania 0.202 45
      United Kingdom 0.189 46
      Brazil 0.152 47
      Estonia 0.132 48
      Lithuania 0.117 49
      Chile 0.115 50
      Georgia 0.09 51


    • overburdenddonkey

      Article 12 – Right to social security…’Conclusion; The Committee concludes that the situation in United Kingdom is not in conformity with Article 12§1 of the Charter on the ground that: the minimum levels of short-term and long-term incapacity benefit is manifestly inadequate; the minimum level of state pension is manifestly inadequate; the minimum level of job seeker’s allowance is manifestly inadequate.’

      Click to access UKXX2_en.pdf


        The EUROPEAN COMMITEE ON SOCIAL RIGHTS are absolutely aghast, shocked beyond belief at the damning state of welfare and pension payments available to our citizens.

        “They go on to say that our payments are barely above poverty levels”

        If these are the findings prior to the introduction of the Welfare Reform Acts of 2012, what will be their opinions be now?

        The EU commitee will be fully aware of the spiralling number of deaths that the DWP are struggling to suppress,2015 should see our government being given the biggest kick in the bollocks ever……….


  101. Cait Riley lost the case to be able to choose to work in the job she was educated for in Europe.
    The man who took the case for men to have his pension age aligned to that of women lost his case, instead they increased the age in which women could claim pension.
    Europe is not much good if it can be overruled by UK!


    • Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was convicted for molesting underage girls, is being sued not only for making a woman who calls herself Jane Doe #3 a sex slave, but for prostituting her out to his friends, who included heads of state, Alan Dershowitz, Prince Andrew and many others. Others implicated in the abuse are Ghislaine Maxwell, a British socialite and model scout Jean Luc Brunel.

      Prosecutors in Florida are accused of violating victims rights when they reached a plea bargain with Epstein without consulting the victims. The claim is that Epstein’s money, influence and legal team gave him an unfair advantage in the case, and the plea bargain was a “sweet deal.” Epstein served 13 months of an 18 month sentence, and is a registered sex offender.

      • Robert Maxwell’s daughter ‘procured young girls’ for Prince Andrew’s billionaire friend

        By CaTherine Ostler for The Mail on Sunday
        Updated: 15:39, 5 March 2011

        View comments

        Royal friend: Ghislaine Maxwell in New York

        Royal friend: Ghislaine Maxwell in New York

        Just off Central Park, in New York’s most expensive district, there are two magnificent townhouses.

        The first was built in the 1930s for the heir to the Macy’s department store fortune. It’s the largest private residence in the city, and as such virtually priceless.

        Behind its 15ft-high oak front door lives one of the most talked-about men in Manhattan. It is here, in convicted paedophile Jeffrey Epstein’s house, that Prince Andrew stayed for four days before Christmas.

        And it was at the other house, a Beaux Arts-style residence valued at around $16 million, that Andrew and Epstein’s mutual close friend, the ‘busy, foxy, crafty’ (as a male friend describes her) Ghislaine Maxwell — daughter of the notorious Robert Maxwell — threw a party in Andrew’s honour during the same visit.


      • @GEOFF well done my favourite subject
        Actually the maxwell aspect of this fits nicely with youth clubs and Saville and PIE
        something i was looking into already

        • …………………..do you mean Savile at the palace Bob? or the hint he gave on the Parkinson interview?

          • @GEOFF its connected to maxwell and savilles companies and his relationship with certain royals mate . I was working on a thing that seemed unrelated till this showed up and just fitted so well and connected to
            raising money for paedo group using a boys club as a front

            • Celtic Bhoys Club ?


              • No its a long established boys club in SE London being used to collect monies for PIE when some of its members were on trial , there was another fund in Bradford around the same time .
                Saville was connected to some royals and connected to youth clubs , the maxwell aspect is the company advising and finsncing him who were also connected to youth club as well..

            • “HELL OF A DAISY CHAIN BOB”

              Lord Mandelson yesterday maintained his silence over the extent of his contact with disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein.

              The former Business Secretary did not respond to questions about why the convicted paedophile’s ‘little black book’ featured ten entries for him and his partner Reinaldo da Silva.

              The online contacts book had 16 numbers for Prince Andrew and home numbers for politicians including Lord Heseltine and former Northern Ireland Secretary Shaun Woodward. There were also details of girls working at massage parlours.

              see Mandy’s links to the NSPCC also;

              Harbinder Singh Rana, 52, was invited as a guest of the Prince of Wales through his work for the Anglo-Sikh Heritage Trail, which promotes the Sikh community in Britain.

              But it later emerged that he was jailed for four years after he was found guilty of assaulting women in their homes while posing as a doctor

              The prince is said to be angry that security staff failed on five occasions to alert him about the charity worker’s criminal convictions – including five counts of indecent assault, 11 counts of assault and one of attempted assault, the Daily Mirror revealed.
              A Palace source told the newspaper: “Charles is livid at not being warned.”

              Rana was banished from all future royal events. Source

  103. overburdenddonkey

    ‘Cait Riley lost the case to be able to choose to work in the job she was educated for in Europe.’ post a link to that info please?…she volunteered in a museum, jcp said no she mustn’t, and must do as they say, she disagreed…
    the uk state were always going to raise SPA to avert the mythical pensions time bomb…and the state has increased the age that BOTH genders can claim state pension’s, from 60, it’s currently over 62, soon rising to over 63…
    ‘Europe is not much good if it can be overruled by UK!’, yes, the UK picks and chooses what it implements, which leaves ukip et al up the creek without a paddle!…and exposes the mythical eu bureaucratic monster as having no powers @ all…but we also now know that europe supports a massive increase in benefits…shall we fight for it’s implementation?
    so why did the uk agree to become an eu member and pay a small amount of uk gdp too it, window dressing, credibility, scapegoated as a foe, a political football to kick or what?
    ukwm openly laughs @ the eu….and more importantly @ we the people…seeds of division is what they sow, and is the seeded roots of their power…
    all i know is that poverty in the uk is growing and apart from noise sympathy nothing is changing, except getting much worse…and if people feel empowered by knowing what the ESC states, then so much the better…
    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/02/tory-labour-unity-7-may-national-government-constitutional-crisis#start-of-comments we could even end up with this!!?? the UKOK, best of both worlds party…

    • overburdenddonkey.

      @ all…but we also now know that europe supports a massive increase in benefits…shall we fight for it’s implementation?

      EU smoke and mirrors.

  104. ………all those skeletons in the DWP cupboard just itching to come out.

    One of the braver PCS staff will be put under so much pressure to meet targets that they will break rank and spill the beans……………

    It’s heading that way quickly, more quickly than you can ever imagine.

    More and more official documents are falling into the hands of the general public where the lies are being exposed each day.

    ……..”keep it up whistleblowers, use this blog to air your views”

  105. I think the man means well. He clearly hasn’t moderated any comments on his ideas:
    Homeless People Advertising – Bumvertising™ Comments

    The following section contains e-mail commentary that Mr. Rogovy has received in regards to this innovative homeless advertising method:

    “Hey man, I think what you’re doing is one hell of a great idea in action. Helping the homeless earn money for doing next to nothing is exactly what the homeless aim to do anyway. Firstly, they can turn down your offer, or they can realize that they are a shower and a clean pair of clothes away from a job at McDonalds if they truly want to “work for food”.”
    Russ Albany, OH – 9/26/05

    “I just saw the Daily Show segment. Man, you’ve got guts to be in one of their pieces. I have got to respect that.”
    Matthew L. – 9/21/05

    “You are helping them earn money actually doing something for others (a start), and solving a common business problem: how to maximize your advertising income. Politically incorrect? You bet! But I totally agree with your comment of “Possibly insensitive, Definitely accurate.”
    Chris Y. Seattle, WA – 9/13/05

    “Great Idea , Don`t let those Idiots out there tell you your exploiting those Bums , They are working and actually earning cash , hows that exploiting ? You have very clever ideas !!! Would like to see you on the Apprentice , you would make the Series very interesting to watch !!!”
    Martin – 9/14/05

    “you shit-faced scum bag. go fuck yourself.”
    Shawn – 9/13/05

    “You have brought attention ( however brief ) to an important social issue. As a former homeless person I find your creativity inoffensive. Dont let the “experts” on “Homelessness” put you down.”
    Jeff V. – 8/26/05

    “I support your actions. Your creative thinking should be praised. I would be interested in what the “coalition” is doing to support those they claim to represent.”
    William, Seattle, WA – 8/10/05

    “Find another term — ‘bum’ is really derogatory and insulting…”
    Jann, Seattle, WA – 8/10/05

    “Ok, now that I have stopped laughing HYSTERICALLY, I’m interested. What are your ad rates?”
    Christine – 8/15/05

    “Kudos to your creativity! In the marketing/web design world we all seach for new ways to get our message across and I think you hit on a genius idea. Good job :-)”
    Aly – 8/14/05

    “Do not let the professionals get you down about the coined, (and I notice, trademarked!) name. The professionals, social workers etc., who are criticizing you, are worried that you are breaking their monopoly on “helping” the poor and/or homeless. Pfft! It is a great name and from what I can tell, those who are working for you are HAPPY about doing it.”
    Sally, Seattle, WA – 8/12/05

  106. @GEOFF yeah we know all about Elm Guest house and Leon Brittan who was there as he was an offender , the irony of Geoffrey Dickens hadnding his dossiers over to Home Secretary not knowing that same Home Sec was a child sex abuser himself of course the dossiers went missing it had his mates names in them , and Harvey Proctor was at EGH too and he later had two shops and was done for vat fraud which is weird as customs and excise also seize obscene material and also weird because vat barrister working for customs and excise was colin peters who was also at Elm Guest House , see they get everywhere oh and Harvey Proctor was at Dolphin Square where a few boys were killed yes its horrible stuff mate


      ‘Carole said she had a load of photographs of famous people doing stuff at the gay guest house,’ said Issett. ‘The name I remember is that of the fat man, Cyril Smith.

      On Sunday morning, June 17, 1990, Carole Kasir, then 47, was found by a friend, in bed at the Carmichael Road flat. She was dead, with ‘numerous injections and phials of insulin’ lying about her.

      Certainly the coroner was concerned about the circumstances surrounding her death.

  107. @Donkey if you mean paedophiles then the answer is that you cannot “cure” them as 1 some dont regard they have a problem and its just soceity being repressive
    2 in their head children enjoy it and encourage physical relationship with adults and are not harmed and even gain from it (!?)
    3 they constantly re offend its around 70% re offending rate

    4 some go on to torture and murder , more dangerous activity happens when they operate in gangs

    • overburdenddonkey

      what i asked is; do you advocate the work of rethink/mind?
      if not what type of therapeutic approach do you advocate, for cure of mhp’s caused by emotional injuries, which is all of them…i still would like an answer…
      i know exactly the mo of paedophiles…and they are completely curable, one does not start by trying to cure paedophilia, nor ie murders…..their crime is irrelevant too achieving a cure…their crime(s) is/are a symptom…anything else is branding and/or scapegoating…yes, i know that their crimes are dreadful….which makes me weep, that no one is curing their personality disorder(s)…as CSA/CA is rife in the uk….
      for cure see work of dr bob johnson…

      • overburdenddonkey

        ps dr bob was curing people, but had to stop due to lack of support….

      • @Donkey dont take this the wrong way and i am not avoiding your question . I just want to comply with Johnnys rule about going O/T and he puts in a lot of effort on these blogs and for us to discuss what he proposes also its a distressing and unpleasant subject and upsetting for some . I must say i was surprised to see it mentioned here
        What i may consider is using my own blog attempt to discuss these matters ( my welcome to stupid blog. No i dont know why i called it that )
        so perhaps yourself and geoff and others might want to take it there
        In fact i am considering now to use that blog of mine ( will have to rename it) to report on our findings thats if i can figure how to use wordpress as it looks like a nightmare

        Ok let me figure all that stuff out and i will get to grips with this stuff ok

        • overburdenddonkey

          you brought up the CSA/CA subject and were merrily discussing it with others before i posted in responce to your above post in fact.. i asked a question rethink and the dwp rules you posted…so i haven’t had an answer to it as yet, it does in fact relate directly to the previous jv blog post..it is right (emotionally healthy) to be upset and distressed about CSA/CA or any other form of abuse @ all times…everyone who posts put’s in a lot of effort….
          welcome to stupid is a good title, and you’re any thing but, it reminds me of your love a british comedy esp the plank….

  108. @Donkey ps thanks for reminder i have to contact nick davies as we have a follow up on a piece he did ages ago


    It comes as no surprise because they are aacting to suppress the main cause of the deaths of the disabled community.


    How many innocent people have you killed this year Mr George, fucking nobody, Smith?

    Will you be going for a record number of scalps to outdo last years staggering amounts?

    ………………….The world is watching your every move, you fetid pile of stinking shit.

    • …………………everybody thinks that once they leave politics, they can slide into obscurity. On the contrary, some have a price upon their heads,

      Being protected by bodyguards is nothing to do with fame, no stampedes for autographs, just the call for retribution for those you put to sleep.

      Quivering pieces of jelly that understand , that without guards they would be vulnerable targets, quite ironic really, don’t you think ?

      As vulnerable as those they chose to murder, those least able to put up a fight of any kind…………………….


    Director Overview Alasdair Emslie holds 1 appointments at 1 active companies, has resigned from 7 companies and held 4 appointments at 4 dissolved companies. Alasdair began their first appointment at the age of 29. Their longest current appointment spans 4 years and 5 months at ARCAD PROPERTIES LLP.

    Company Description
    ALABEL ESTATES LIMITED is a Private Limited Company registered in United Kingdom with the Company reg no 08856259. Its current trading status is “live”. It was registered 2014-01-22. It has 2 directors It can be contacted at 30-34 North Street, Hailsham, East Sussex, England, United Kingdom .

    Making Occupational Health More Business-Focused
    Dr Alasdair Emslie, President, Society of Occupational Medicine


  111. B. Adams left an annotation (23 April 2013)

    Geoffrey .. Dig deep into the Faculty of Occupational Medicine (registered as an independent charity) and you will find that they too are a member of the same Atos family along with their partner the Royal College of Physicians of which the FOM is a faculty member of, and living rent free in the same accommodation.. By both groups distancing themselves and pertaining to be a different organisation from Atos/Unum they can gain additional seats on government advisory panels, give support to policies, and be additionally consulted on new legislation to give strength to the intended changes., all whilst being part of that same group.

    In 2009 the FOM held their 30th Anniversary celebration at the House of Lords supported by their sponsors Serco and Atos Healthcare..

    Occupational health services serving more than 1,000,000 Government and private employees had achieved SEQOHS accreditation by October 2012. this is managed by the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) on behalf of the Faculty of Occupational Medicine (FOM). Staff working for some of the country’s biggest employers are receiving occupational health advice and support from accredited services; this includes 1,000,000 staff looked after by ATOS healthcare. A hint came from Cameron when he said “We are all in it together.”.

  112. @GEOFF My friend knew Carol Kaisir and yes to the photos of Leon Brittan having being a guest at Elm Guest House in fact a Telegraph journalist was also staying there too as was Nicholas Fairburn scottish Tory MP..

  113. @GEOFF remember Grunwicks dispute in 70s you can look it up ok now imagine that as a front for child porn distribution .


    Having two prominent members sat as CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICERS, BILL GUNNYEON at the DWP and ALISDAIR EMSLIE, a property tycoon at MAXIMUS UK is no coincidence………………………………….

    The faculty was set up to promote the welfare reform changes that are handing out our services to the private health insurance industry.

    Everyone with links to the faculty have had prominent positions of power when voting on matters of welfare reforms.

    Disability and sickness denial are big business, ask yourself why a property tycoon has opted to work for a health insurer who does medical evaluations on behalf of the state?

    More deaths equal bigger payouts, the bigger the denial the greater the profit………………………..

    Dig deep into the membership of the FACULTY OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE and cross reference it to meetings with insurance companies…………………….

    Same old names keep cropping up all the time, why bother lobbying for a cause when you have a ready made springboard, an intermediary, to do all the dirty work for you.

    Elmslie and Gunnyeon are but two of the faculties key figures, dig deep and you will realise how the NHS is being driven towards the private health insurers……………..

    It is your health that is paramount, not the bloated pockets of those who seek to rob you of your lives.

    The workings of a charity are meant to be open and honest and accountable, these qualities have no bearing on it’s goal………..


      In 2009 the FOM held their 30th Anniversary celebration at the House of Lords supported by their sponsors Serco and Atos Healthcare..

      They have but one ambition, you are just collateral damage that stand in their way……………….
      Hence the DWP trying hard to hide the mortality figures from public view.

  115. “However, he claimed they were told she had not actually been fully sanctioned but was subject to a “discontinuance of entitlement”, which he says is a “back-door method of stopping claimants’ benefits” while not being counted as a full sanction.”


    Is that a new one they have come up with ?.

  116. Thatcherism embraces a nanny state for the rich, how much money could business make without an army of workers. And now they want to take it further by destroying the welfare state. Something has to give.

    • @ANNOS Peter Morrison was a regular to North Wales care homes, it was said that Thatcher knew that he had raped a boy at a London address which again connects to Leon Brittan where extreme videos were made , its also suspected that Morrison had been involved in the abduction of a 15 yr old boy in 1976 whose death and body found was deeply suspicious

      • overburdenddonkey

        who controls/manages the treatment’s and expression available to CSA/CA victims, in the uk?
        please name the service providers…and types of treatment available…

        • overburdenddonkey

          answer 1; the state…ans 2; now no curative treatment’s are freely available…so effectively there are no useful service providers, only managers of mhp’s….
          do you advocate behaviourism or not…?

  117. Authoritarian fanatics but not sure they can be defined as conservative or right-wing, even their political ideology is absurdly confused and incompetent.

    More the immoral code of a criminal fraternity hence the law breaking and disregard of their own law-making.

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    But most of you will STILL vote for a political party,ensuring the exploitation of the lower classes by the rich and their feeble offspring continues Ad Infinitum. If you wish to make a difference do not vote for a political party; vote for your local independent candidate.
    If you wish to continue voting for a political party;You have learnt absolutely nothing and are a total waste of breath,slightly responsible for the country being sold down the swanny by theives and vagabonds.

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