Fightback Against Byteback And Their Grubby Workfare Exploitation

UPDATE: Byteback are out of workfare, top work everybody and fair play to them for admitting to making a mistake

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A computer repair shop in Bristol has become one of the first companies to be caught boasting about forcing people to work without pay on the latest workfare scheme.

Byteback IT Solutions were recently featured in the Bristol Post after being visited by George Osborne due to their involvement in Community Work Placements.  These placements involve six months full time workfare under the threat of benefits being stopped.

This is a wonderful arrangement according to the company’s director Andy Town who said: “We recycle old computers so if they turn it on and make it work, everyone’s a winner but if they don’t, there’s nothing to break and it hasn’t cost us anything,”

When challenged by one critic of the scheme, @andygale on twitter, the company claimed, in a string of now deleted tweets, that people on workfare are ’employees of the state’, as if it’s perfectly acceptable for private  companies to have their wage bill met by the tax payer.  This is the real culture of entitlement, bosses and businessmen scrounging off the state.  In truth workfare workers are nothing of the sort, employees get paid minimum wage after all.

As pointed out by @refuted, Byteback are a profit making company who charge a minimum of £45 an hour to fix computers.  DWP regulations require that any mandatory unpaid work schemes are for organisations which can demonstrate a community benefit.  Whilst Byteback carry out computer recycling, what this means in practice is that you can drop off your old computer and they’ll strip it for parts they can flog on for a profit.  Depending on what you want to recycle, they might even charge you.  It is difficult to see how this company has any more of a community benefit than the local scrapyard or second-hand electrical shop.

With proper community organisations increasingly condemning Community Work Placements as exploitative,  it is likely to be smaller companies like Byteback who have a dirty little workfare secret.  It is vital that they are exposed as the workfare profiteers they are so that all their customers can make up their own minds about whether they want to use the services of a company involved in forced labour.  It’s time to send a message to every grubby two-bit business out there who thinks they can make us work for free – snip – see above tweet, Byteback say they are out of workfare.

To name and shame companies and charities using workfare visit: http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?page_id=16

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187 responses to “Fightback Against Byteback And Their Grubby Workfare Exploitation

  1. O/S

    UK Prime Minister ✔ @Number10gov
    Follow
    Mark Harper has been appointed as Minister of State @DWPgovuk #reshuffle

    Harper is a cunt – he is very happy inflicting pain on the disabled – remeber he resigned a while ago once he ‘recognised’ he had an illegal immigrant as his cleaner – watch him closely

  2. Unwanted computers and similar kit can always be recycled by giving it to organisations like Freecycle. Outfits like Byteback are merely for-profit businesses that taxpayers shouldn’t subsidise. Expose them!!

  3. Another Fine Mess

    “We recycle old computers so if they turn it on and make it work, everyone’s a winner but if they don’t, there’s nothing to break and it hasn’t cost us anything,”

    So they don’t even pretend to teach the unpaid slaves how to fix the PCs.

    • Translation :
      We recycle workfare slaves so if they turn up and we make them work, everyone’s a winner (we make money) but if they don’t, they’ll be sanctioned and it hasn’t cost us anything.

    • Nothing to break? Wanna bet?

  4. If they claim they are “emplyees of the state.” Then the state states that the minimum wage is £6.31 so the government are breaking their own laws by paying below minimum wage.

  5. This is the real “something for nothing” culture – grubby little businessmen like Andy Town, who expect the unemployed to work for their businesses without incurring any costs themselves.

    One way to cut the deficit would be to make private businesses pay their way, instead of letting them bleed the state dry via lavish corporate welfare schemes like this.

    • overburdenddonkey

      samwise
      exactly they suck people dry under duress of losing meager benefits it is ritual humiliation, no more no less shame on them!

  6. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    What a wonderful country we live in………………….
    Whilst the government, are at this very moment, debating a snooping bill under the title, “data retention and investigatory powers”, in an effort to rid us of child abusers and terrorists, the opposite is seen to be happening………..

    Shredding of files and evidence by the home office, police files going awol, government ministers and their aides jumping through hoops to cover their seedy sordid tracks etc……….

    The paedo’s of westminster and the police and judiciary are awash with the very perverts they seek to address.

    A real fucking from the EUROPEAN COURTS OF JUSTICE is imminent as this government flout every law going………………..

    • spot on again geoff
      in fact the bill has now become law as only 34 MPs voted against it. Presumably these were labour MPs. That means most labour MPs supported the bill and voted with the tories. What is the point of the labour party?

      Anyone looking for some respite at the next election had better think again – labour is no friend of the working man/ unemployed/ disabled – the people in this country are left with no political representation as all parties want to have the same policies. No thought that the electorate may think differently and if you do you are a terrorist. These venal scum need to be remved and voting will not do it!!!

      • 51 voted against, and, to be fair (!) 10 of those were Tories and 4 LibDems! Just 22 Labour😦 The rest of the Noes were SDLP and Alliance from Northern Ireland, Plaid Cymru from Wales, SNP from Scotland and Caroline Lucas, the sole Green Party MP.

  7. Root Directory

    “@CLeslieMP and @George_Osborne being shown how to install software at @Byteback_IT – an amazing #Bristol #Business” lol does Osborne also get someone else to wipe his arse?!

  8. George Osborne, the mandated movement of peoples from the DWP to Byteback is internal human trafficking regardless of the coerced persons perception of their status –

    Human trafficking is the acquisition of people by improper means such as force, fraud or deception, with the aim of exploiting them. First and foremost, human trafficking is a crime against humanity.

    Source: UNODC/Home Office

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  10. What utter bullcrap! Everyone is most certainly not a winner- the winners are the directors who will be able to make big fat profits as a result of not having to pay their staff.

  11. Dear Andy Town,
    Re: ‘Employees of the State’; How the Law decides whether someone is an employee.

    Employees in the UK have rights in the course of their work, such as, Employment Protection, Unfair Dismissal and Redundancy Rules. In law the term ’employee’ denotes weather there is holiday pay, whether the individual is free to decide how to do the job, health and safety regulations, employers liability and insurance.
    You Mr Town offer nothing of the sort to your ‘forced slaves’, You render your forced unemployed workers with nothing but poverty and homelessness, whilst you yourself increase your profits.
    Shame on you.

    • The above has been emailed to Mr Town. I await his reply.

      • Good afternooon Bernadette

        Thank you for your interest in the work we do at Byteback IT Solutions
        Ltd. You seem to be a little miss guided about what we do at Byteback
        so I would like to take this opportunity to invite you to visit us so
        you can see the good work that we do alongside local authorities,
        charities and community groups for yourself.

        We are open daily from 8am – 6pm Mon – Fri, however if you would like to
        talk to any of the so called forced slaves, you would have to visit
        between 9am – 5pm with a lunch break from 12:15 – 12:45 Tuesday – Friday.

        I look forward to hearing from you to arrange a show around.

        Kindest regards
        Nathon
        WANKERS!!!!!

        • My god, I’m speechless. This place needs picketing and fast! *shakes fist*

        • overburdenddonkey

          bernadette
          can’t these people see…..workfare can only exist in collapsed local economies, a gdp economy that is reliant solely on service sector, retail, and financial services…this also caused to banking crisis (credit crunch) in the 1st place, via our economies dependence on house house owning, buy to let, renting @ extortionate rents. lack of social housing, sell offs of all descriptions and share price inflation….it’s using the decks of a ship for fuel and it the long run catastrophic for all…if the local economy was vibrant and distributive workfare could not exist, it is a symptom of retreating local wealth a rear guard action of managed decline…productivity/head is very low in the uk..coz we don’t MAKE things anymore…a local economy that depends on repair and retail collapses/shrinks…for a local economy and individuals to thrive sustaining wages mast be paid….not doing so is in every way bad for local health…see the work of the jimmy reid foundation…

          • Another Fine Mess

            it’s using the decks of a ship for fuel
            It’s the Conservative’s way.

            I don’t know how many of my local shops are surving, many don’t even sell £6.40’s worth of stuff during most hours of the day.

            • overburdenddonkey

              a f m
              no neither do i…for a local and collective culture to thrive, the gdp economy must be in the hands of the working classes….

          • Obd, Knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing comes to mind in out ‘collapsed economy’.

  12. Spreading the word about these “businesses” is a great way to stop them using slave labour.

  13. Reblogged this on Jay's Journal and commented:
    A small business and an owner with a big gob – they’ll be forced to stop using slaves now😀

  14. Left a ‘review on google’ – now they have three one star reviews🙂

  15. Landless Peasant

    They’ve removed comments from their Facebook posts!

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  18. Jay Evans

    05/29/2014
    A place that makes unemployed people slave for them without any pay – what a disgrace. I only hope that any “supporters… See More
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    4 others like this.

    Army of Angels Hi Jay Evans Could you please notify me on how you have come to this conclusion?

    https://www.facebook.com/armyofangels.charity

    they been on the list since march last year lol so i posted it on there page😉

    lets see how long that stays up, fkn wankers sanction me for turning up the cunts just so they can get there fee utter tossers.

  19. I needed to get my daughter’s computer fixed in a hurry, so I googled for a local company which led me to the google reviews. Further googling led me to this website. I am utterly shocked that this is going on. And to think that I was about to hand over a minimum of £45 and hour to a so-called business who don’t even pay their workers! At least this is one less customers for these cowboys. Keep up up the good work!

  20. Boycott Byteback

    Funny how these Byteback fuckers say on their website that they “have been offering specialist IT Equipment Recycling & Data Destruction since 2002.” Bullshit – these cunts have been in business for only three years. So lying toe-rags as well as workfare-exploiting scum.

    • Another Fine Mess

      These days they’re into wage destruction, at the tax-payers and workers expense.

      • They probably just mean a ‘file wipe’ with some freely available freeware software utility. Can’t see these cunts actually PAYING for their software if they won’t even provide their workfarers with a fucking sandwich let alone a wage. Of course they could probably get away with charging some knobhead like Osborne a few hundred knicker to ‘destroy his data’🙂

        And look at the ‘services’ they provide – as well as ‘data destruction’ and ‘software installation’ we have nursery level stuff such as virus/spyware removal, system optimisation (no doubt yet again using a freely available freeware utility), and the usual operating system re-installs (cause they can’t actually fix anything so they just wipe the disk and re-install their pirated copy of Windows lol). Who the fuck in their right mind would actually pay these cunts a MINIMUM of £45 an hour for their bullshit services. I highly doubt if any of these cunts could programme their way out of a paper bag.

        • Whilst I agree with the gist of your post, Byteback are bastards of the worst kind, the suggestion that software that doesn’t cost anything is useless or somehow sub-par is highly erroneous. There are open source utilities that will ‘wipe’ hard drives every bit as well (and even do a better job) as any commercial closed source utility, and many of the good open source alternatives are available at no cost.

          No disk wipe can be 100% effective, and the only safe way to permanently get rid of data on a hard drive is physical destruction.

          As a slight aside, anyone using a computer so old that it can only run Windows XP would be well advised to seek out an alternative, and I’d suggest using one of the flavours of Linux, such as Lubuntu or Xubuntu, both of which are user, (and newbie) friendly and have a user interface that is similar to that of Windows XP – and as a bonus is virtually free of viruses and most of all the other nasties that infect Windows systems.

          Also, in the light of the Edward Snowdon revelations that both GCHQ and the NSA in their respective countries have been actively snooping on their citizens, and also the Data Retention and Investigatory Powers Bill/Act it would be a good idea to encrypt everything possible – relatively easy to do with Linux. This won’t stop the powers that be from wanting to snoop on you, but it would force them to reveal their surveillance as they’d have to demand your encryption keys, and they would look somewhat silly if your online grocery shopping accounts were all that was revealed – and it would also increase the amount of human resources needed to do this work, which would effectively make it impossible to mount such a surveillance campaign. This kind of legislation is using terrorism and paedophilia as a pretext to invoke yet more mass surveillance on us, and will do nothing to prevent either scourge.

    • Data Destruction? That involves physically pulverising hard disk drives using specialist heavy machinery, every step being QAd and logged. I doubt a back-street outfit like Byteback has anything like that capability.

  21. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    THIS RESPONSE FROM THE DWP CONCERNING THE RECORDING OF MEDICAL EXAMINATIONS SHOW THAT NO LAWS EXIST THAT PROHIBIT THE CLAIMANT FROM MAKING A RECORDING.

    IF YOU WISH TO RECORD ANY CONVERSATION THAT INVOLVES YOURSELF, FEEL FREE, IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO DO SO.

    THE DWP HAVE CONSTANTLY TOLD LIES TO TRY AND STOP RECORDINGS.

    In response to questions 1, 3 & 4, there is no law placing a legal requirement for a claimant to use
    recording equipment approved by the Department, nor is there a law or statute which denies a
    person the right to record a conversation in which he is an active participant; we note that there
    is also no law or statute placing the other party to the conversation under an obligation to take
    part in a recorded interview.
    It is Departmental policy that puts in place reasonable restrictions and requirements to ensure
    that claimants who wish to use their own equipment to record their face-to-face assessment
    must use appropriate equipment that can provide two copies of the recording in such a way to
    ensure that the recording is a reliable and accurate record of the assessment.
    If a claimant is found to be covertly recording an assessment, departmental guidelines advise
    that the assessment should be terminated.

    ……………ALL THE CRAP ABOUT DEPARTMENTAL GUIDELINES AND REASONABLE RESTRICTIONS ARE NOTHING BUT COMPLETE BULLSHIT.

    RECORD WHATEVER YOU WISH………………

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/216440/response/536712/attach/html/3/FOI%202613%20response.pdf.html

  22. ‘employees of the state’, as if it’s perfectly acceptable for private companies to have their wage bill met by the tax payer.

    Utter bollocks,

    1.03
    Placements must be additio
    nal to existing or expected va
    cancies (i.e. they must not
    displace what would otherwise be paid econ
    omic jobs, or impact existing employees
    within the host organisation)

    A1.04
    You are responsible for ensuring that hos
    t organisations adhere to these principles and
    obtain confirmation that placements offered
    by hosts do not displace existing jobs.

    Looks as if the “guidance” of community work programme has already gone out the window.

  23. I’m now on the 6-month CWP with those sick tossers Seetec – who unfortunately have an ‘office / training centre’ in my home town. If being on the 2 year WP has proved fuck all and wasted part of my precious life away, how the fuck is 6 months doing forced slavery for going to be any better?

    I started last week with them but already have had a number of arguments after being fucked over since day one. First they tried to get me to go to Mepal Outdoor Centre (Near Ely, Cambridgeshire) doing any old odd-job sh*te, but I later refused to go as I would have had to use THREE different bus services to get me there ( bus from Wisbech to March, then a bus March to Chatteris, and then a third bus from Chatteris to Mepal) and back home again with no guarantee from Seetec of even getting back home at night as the last bus back home to Wisbech from March at night leaves half an hour before I can actually get back to March from Chatteris.

    Since now I fucked up those CWP tossers over this bus problem I now have to spend time at this so-called community recycling place on the outskirts of March town centre – CCORRN.

    These w*nkers at CCORRN deal in taking old paint tins from various recycling depots across Cambridgeshire, testing the paint and selling it back into the community.

    One problem with this for me. I have got hayfever and thus I have resulting allergies stemming from my hayfever. I am allergic to certain chemcial smells and fumes, especially the smell given off by paint. I mentioed this to my JCP, Seetec, and CCORRN but they don’t believe me nor give a flying fuck about my allergic reaction to paint smells. some people with hayfever can develop further allergies and can become super sensitive to various chemical smells and fumes and react badly to them.

    Only yesterday morning, I reacted badly to the overwhelming stench of paint vapour so heavy and thick in the air within the CCORRN building I literally had a panic attack and had to get outside very quickly. Took me over an hour to calm down again and felt better. The thing is though, part of my placement I am expected to test paint prior to it being re-sold back into the community. The fuck I won’t, as the smell of paint makes me feel sick and light-headed. I never knew paint would affect me until last friday on my first day there and I have been feeling nauseas ever since.

    I don’t trust Seetec at all, scamming tossers who got investigated by the DWP in Nov 2013 for fraudulent placement payment fiddles. And when I do my 4 hour job search on Tuesdays I take no notice of them by having my iPod with me and blanking the so-called staff out.

    • Sounds to me like they’re violating health and safety regs. If you’re working with paint you should have a mask, protective clothing or at least gloves and glasses and the building should be ventilated. Lead paint has been banned for over 20 years but beware really old cans as they may have this toxic muck. Complain to your doctor that you’re being forced to work in an environment that is harming your health. Next time you feel ill demand an ambulance.

    • Doctor in the House.

      Where the fuck is this palnt? China? Because it must be if the workers are being exposed to toxic chemicals with no personal protective equipment. Six months exposure to this shit is going to seriously damage a person’s health – permanently! But as if the DWP/JC/Seetec/PCS/IDS give a flying fuck. Continue on with this shit and you will end up dying a painful death from some lung disease. What next – asbestos removal. Fuck this shit. Exaggerate the symptoms, make them up cos there sure as hell will be symptoms soon enough. Call an ambulance, check into A&E, say you can’t breath your heart is playing up. There is fuck all they can do about it. Fuck these Seetec cunts!!

      • I may be heading away from that paint-infested CWP building, as my hayfever / allergies are not being helped by humping around old, toxic or stagnant water-filled paint tins in the back yard. I can’t work indoors as it reeks of paint vapour making me seriously unwell.

    • Doctor in the House.

      btw the smell like in gas and petrol is put in their DELIBERATELY to let you know you are breathing in a TOXIC substance. Paint is TOXIC!!

    • overburdenddonkey

      fen
      all of these products (and should be verifiable labelled) should have a health and safety sheet…so that you know exactly what is in them…

      • All the paint tins on-site are clearly labelled with health warnings, but they don’t give a flying fuck about the health implications. My health has been affected since last Friday, and I now have a constant taste of paint in my mouth which I cannot get rid of.

  24. Named and shamed for being with the CWP…

    SEETEC WISBECH (twats)

    MEPAL OUTDOOR ACTIVITY CENTRE, near Ely, Cambridgeshire

    CCORRN, March, Cambridgeshire

    Both the Mepal centre and CCORRN take Seetec Wisbech placement clients on a regular basis throughout the year. Both places exploit people in the fake pretence of gaining work experience.

  25. CCORRN
    Interesting how the Green agenda has become so toxic to the working class – they were inevitable going to become an unsustainable class in the obsession for a non human environment and population reduction.

  26. OT.

    “At the time of the report, the Chairman of the think tank was Tom Sackville, a former Conservative minister and Parliamentary Under –Secretary for Health who is the Chief Executive of the International Federation of Health Plans, which represents one hundred private health insurance companies in 31 countries.”

    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.de/2013/06/earl-howe-former-patron-of-pro-market.html

  27. CWP = Community Payback

    Refuted has a job ad for an overseer to supervise a group of volunteers on the Community Work Programme.

    Interestingly, the the Groundworks Butterwicks Trees site states: “The tree nursery near Sedgefield in County Durham delivers training in horticulture to ex-offenders and grows locally-sourced deciduous, conifers, heathers, and hedgerow packs.”

  28. CWP = Community Payback
  29. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    “MAYBE THE HISTORY BOOKS WILL NEED TO BE REWRITTEN?”

    ACCORDING TO THE BBC NEWS THIS MORNING, THE WORST MASSACRE IN POST WORLD WAR HISTORY, WAS THE KILLING OF 7,000 BOSNIANS WHO WERE HANDED OVER BY DUTCH NATO TROOPS TO THE INVADING SERB ARMY………………………

    THIS IS HISTORICAL YET THE AMOUNT OF HUMAN BEINGS KILLED, PALES INTO INSIGNIFICANCE WHEN COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF DEATHS CAUSED BY OUR PRESENT COALITION GOVERNMENT.

    AN ESTIMATE OF 46,000 HAVE ALREADY DIED AND THE NUMBER SHOULD SPIRAL OUT OF CONTROL NOW THAT THE CHOSEN EXECUTIONER, “ATOS”, HAS HAD IT’S KILLING ABILITY EXTENDED………….

    HIDING MORTALITY FIGURES IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY OF OUR EVIL, DERANGED, DEPARTMENT OF WORKS AND PENSIONS.
    THEY ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN TO BLOCK LEGITIMATE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS THAT WILL HIGHLIGHT THE TRAIL OF CORPSES THAT ILL THOUGHT OUT PRODUCTS OF ETHNIC CLEANSING HAVE LEFT BEHIND.

    WHILE PEOPLE ARE FED BY FOOD BANKS AND FAMILIES WALK THE STREETS, THE DWP SEE FIT TO SQUANDER COUNTLESS MILLIONS ON A DOOMED PROJECT THAT HAS SEEN SEVERAL MANAGERS DISAPPEAR ALONG THE WAYSIDE…………………………..

    THESE ARE NOT UNFORTUNATE MISTAKES, THEY ARE PRE PLANNED, PREMEDITATED ACTS OF MURDER ON AN ENORMOUS SCALE FUNDED BY THE ACTS OF GIANT HEALTH INSURANCE COMPANIES WHO LOBBY OUR WEAKEST POLITICIANS.

    THIS IS CORPORATE MANSLAUGHTER ON AN EPIC SCALE THAT IS BEING IGNORED BY ALL AND SUNDRY AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL, THE COURTS OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THE EUROPEAN COURTS OF JUSTICE AND THE GENEVA CONVENTION.

    THESE CRIMES WILL NOT DISAPPEAR, THEY WILL BE THE FOCUS OF HISTORIANS IN YEARS TO COME…………..

    HOW THE UK GOVERNMENT BUTCHERED IT’S POOR AND DISABLED WHILE EVERYBODY LOOKED ON AND NOBODY DID A THING TO STOP IT……………………………………………………………..

    • Geoff, ‘No man is rich enough to buy back his own past’ (Oscar Wild).
      These bastards, will rot in hell for what they have done to us all. Sadly, history has a habit of repeating itself. On the bright side, if it’s been done before, WE MUST ALL KNOW THE ANSWERS

  30. peter schevtschenko

    byteback have a phone no- 0117 3706375 , they can’t delete that!

    • Federation Against Workfare (FAW)

      We have phoned these Byteback cunts! They just laughed in our face! Felt like giving them a virtual punch through their smarmy faces. The sooner these bastards are drummed out of business the better!

  31. This post pissed me off… I can’t believe it, it’s REAL WORK for 6 MONTHS and it’s NOT EVEN A CHARITY!!! This is nothing less than slavery!

    • Another Fine Mess

      …And the work is not so hi-tech, that it requires months and months of ‘training’ before you become useful to the company. Even a non-tech person could pick up the basics (switch it off and back on again!) within a week or so.

  32. I have a voluntary with a large charity. When I first started it I was told not to volunteer too much as it would not leave me enough time for job hunting! Last week it was suggested I volunteer more – my view is that it is then a part-time job and I should be paid!!!

  33. Should you find out Byteback’s customers (they’ll probably be trumpeting their successes in advertising) then go around to them and tell them that Byteback are charging them £45 or more per hour for work they have had done for nothing by a workfare slave. That Andy Town should be starring in a real-life version of “Despicable Me”. Loathsome specimen.

  34. The best way to deal with scum like this is to do what people are doing here,spreading the word around as much as possible about byteback. Of course some people won’t be put off by the fact they are despicable workfare exploiters but there will be still more than a fair few potential customers who will take their money elsewhere..

  35. Great news guys! The Byteback Facebook page has been forced offline! We told them we would shut them down and we have😀 This is one of the guys in charge of Byteback! Feel free to message him directly plus everyone on his friends list to let people know what we think of benefit scroungers that exploit workfare https://www.facebook.com/nathon.hawke

    • Boycott Byteback

      These Byteback cunts will have lost more in sales than they will have save through their use of slave labour….🙂

      • Boycott Byteback

        snip🙂 lol btw you can also review these Byteback cunts on google, yell, yelp and the Bristol Post🙂 Fuck these Byteback cunts!

        • Boycott Byteback

          PS I really hope all this adverse publicity and negative reviews isn’t hurting Byteback’s sales; it would be a tragedy to see such a fantastic company go out of business…🙂 Jezz, Nathon could even end up on the CWP working for jack-shit😦 lol🙂

  36. Deparment for deceipt and sanctions

    i would take the Sanction! 3 year one if need be, than work for fuck all. Would never ever do that me never..i take no bull shit, never have!

  37. Re: my possible 6-month CWP placement with CCORRN at March, Cambridgeshire…
    I mentioned today to the manager of CCORRN about my hayfever / MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) issues I have as a result of hayfever, it could turn out that my health problems of chemical smells making me feel sick and light-headed MIGHT be a blessing in disguise for me.

    I’m hoping that my intended 6-month CWP stay at March, Cambs may even not last that long as the only thing I can do there is van collection work and doing odd-jobs outside only, such as sorting old and empty paint tins ready for disposal. I can’t work on CCORRN paint testing duties as expected by Seetec, Wisbech as the smell of paint alone can make me feel unwell.

    Today at my Wisbech JCP I returned a DWP sick form to them and I did say to my JCP I was un-well from the paint smell,fumes and was made to do a sick form. The downside I wasn’t allowed to complete normal signing yesterday (tuesday) so now my JSA will be a few days late paying in.

    CCORRN is on Commercial Road in March, Cambs and they deal with taking in old paint tins from recycling deopts across Fenland and re-sell this paint (once tested) to the community. The small paint test area in this commercial building is as far as possible from any proper ventilation source – i.e. the side main entrance and the back fire door. There are NO windows in the paint test area nor is there a fan-ventilation system neither. The smell and vapour of paint is overwhelming throughout the small building, even leaching into the staff room area and the toilet area.

    Monday this week (14th July) I had a panic attack, felt really sick and literally had to get out of the building before throwing up. Never before had a panic attack, nor have previously feared to struggle to even breathe as for some reason the powerful paint stench seemed more bad to me than on my first day last Friday with them.

    I did notice today when outside dealing with the countless stacks of old, rusty paint tins (containing solid paint or stagnant rain water),as these old tins had obviously been left outside for god knows how long before I started, these old tins still clearly displayed their health advice warnings such as ‘when applicating or drying paint, do so in well-ventilated areas’.

    CCORRN’s paint testing area is NOT a well-ventilated area and is breaching the revised Health & Safety at work act laws.

    I’m due to be over at March, Cambs, to at least next Monday, until Seetec decide what they can do for me. Anything with paint, dust or other allergy inducing areas is clearly a no-go for me. Although I have a lower dose of hayfever, I still have developed certain allergens to anything like dust, chemical smells, etc. I can’t even walk past a petrol filling station without feeling a bad sick taste.

    All I get from this CWP place now is a constant taste of paint in my mouth from breathing in the soup of paint vapour which I cannot get rid of; extreme sunburn from working in their back yard today (hottest day of the year so far) with no shade anywhere, and a feeling of anger against seetec.

  38. Guys, please don’t leave any comments whatsoever against workfare on the CCORRN facebook page as this could leave me fucked up without any JSA for three months if my JCP and seetec get wind of me ranting against them on JV blog site.

    Many thanks if you can avoid CCORRN facebook page altogether. I’ve already gone sick from paint nausea and my JSA payments have now been delayed by a few days through because of those cunts.

    The manager of CCORRN goes on their Facebook page every morning around 8:30am to 9:30am, the same time as I have to be there for the start of my placement day.

  39. bit late for that lol and get a fkn mask fkn cunts will kill you in this heat with a air supply as well😉

    • I was out on van collections this morning with CCORRN as the manager didn’t have anything else for me to do. Ha ha ha fucking CWP wankers. Not going to fuck my health up with toxic paint being breathed in. Even out on the van I have to wear overalls at all times, but I’m not going to fuck up my own clothes with toxic paint splashed all over them. Today, hottest day of the year so far, I was sweating buckets in a baking hot van and was expected to hump disposed paint tins on and off the van whilst dripping gallons of sweat. I fucking melted from the heat and extreme sweating as soon as I finally got home earlier tonight.

      • Another Fine Mess

        If it’s as bad as you say, it’s like an elf ‘n safety nightmare zone, I’d close them down myself!

      • ……..Hi Fen Tiger…
        Sorry to hear of your woes down in Cambridge county.
        From what you are telling us here, this “organisation” is acting quire illegally in its work practices,. I am surprised it is actually a legal procedure what they are attempting to do with this used paint.
        If indeed it is a legal practice, then I would imagine, such can only be done legally and safely in a controlled environment by trained ppl. How about getting in touch with the local health and safety folks, or maybe the Green MP ?
        How about getting in touch with the local fire service? They might want to investigate it.

        • Seetec trainees sent here on a regular basis are not trained people dealing with paint, nor is the area a safe controlled environment. Trip hazards inside the building and in the back yard. and all fire exit access is restricted by cages of paint all over the place I nearly fell over a pallet being used as a step between an area of low ground and an area of high ground. Not only my allergies are being affected, I could end up breaking my neck.

          • ……….I would contact the Fire Department as a matter of urgency. This is not acceptable. As for the agency that sent you there, they are also breaking the law, as it is their responsibility to ensure you have a safe working environment. Also, DWP itself is at fault.( Not that DWP actually give a stuff)

    • A whirlwind? More a bubble of fetid gas floating on the surface of a septic tank. Hopefully it’ll burst soon.

      • Yeuck! Really put me off my Tea and toast, the site of Esther McVey, posing outside No. 10, complete with crooked smile and leg bomb! in all her finery !(embarrassing to say the least). Sickeningly hilarious!! on ITV, afternoon news.

        Photographed with that Psycho IDS, lurking malevolently in the background, smirking with glee!! One day I hope he reads all the comments on JV! and that it might disappear.

    • Whirlwind? Wet fart more like!

  40. It IS a fucking H&S nightmare. Seetec trainees are expected to mix and test paint in an area with absolutely no ventilation. It is why I am refusing to fuck about with paint in this manner. I’ll stay outside all of the time even if it pisses down with rain one day.

    • Seetec Are Fucking SCUM!!

      You should get to fuck out of there if nothing for your health’s sakes. Would you go working with absestos like Working Links has one of their victims do? It might not happen immediately but as sure as night follows day it is a certainty that you would develop problems with your lungs, liver heart…. Paint is a known carcinogen. You have to look after No 1 because the DWP/Seetec certainly won’t. They couldn’t give a flying fuck, as they sit in their well-ventilated, cosy, air-conditioned offices that they are in all likelihood commending you to an early and painful death. And talking of Working Links, these fucking low-life cunts sent one one their victims to a dockyard – he was DECAPITATED!!

    • Report them to the HSE (Health and Safety Executive).

      • In reply to A4e Sucks.

        I’m already considering this course of action of Seetec Wisbech do not acknowledge my serious concerns of my affected well-being. I’m considering asking the local fire brigade to carry out full fire safety checks of that place as well.

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  45. Workfare: another one bytes the dust, another one bytes the dust, and another one bytes the dust…🙂

  46. overburdenddonkey

    ” “These figures show a staggering increase in the number of people being hit by Westminster’s deeply unfair benefit sanctions.

    “It’s seriously worrying that lone parents are the hardest hit group, with a 563% increase since 2009.” ” http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-28331544

    • The first time I met someone who’d been sanctioned was just post-xmas – following the ‘SBR’ having being introduced in the ?October. They were a lone parent with one child aged around eight. The sanction was across the xmas ‘holiday’ – during a really cold winter. So no heating or ‘extras’ & probably not enough food/going to bed to stay warm etc. Their child was ill during the time this had been done to them – which must have only added to the distress. There was a really nasty lp ‘adviser’ at the JCP we were both attending – probably more than just the one – but one ‘adviser’ was particularly keen in their role/hoping for a promotion to Decision Maker & looked constantly gleeful about the whole ‘SBR’/Universal Jobsnatch thing.

      Whoever meted out that sanction used ‘not applying for enough jobs’ as a justification. Meanwhile (back in the real world), the lone parent was bringing up a child & managing their school-related & growing-up-related needs while attending JCP, completing job search etc. & doing a weekly IT course (as recommended by JCP – one they had gone out and found for themselves and were paying for). Not “doing enough” though.

      • overburdenddonkey

        s n
        no, they can’t miss the opportunity of piling on the misery and creating an impression on the young…”things can only get better”..

  47. It’s official. I have now been gassed this morning by CCORRN by old paint that has gone completely off through being stored outside in all weathers for fuck knows how long. I felt fine early this morning when I got there, but within an hour of being asked to help dispose of the old paint stock stored outside in their back yard, I felt really nauseas and had a severe allergic / hay fever attack for over an hour. I had to try and find some clean air to calm me down after this worrying allergen response.

    A large number of the old, waste paint tins in the back yard are rusted up and were very difficult to open with a screwdriver, but when I did manage to prise the rusty lids off, I was hit by a pungent vapour similar to ammonia or bad fish given off by the watery, chunky paint within those rusted up tins.

    Common sense dictates that if paint stored outside in all weathers will go off very quickly, especially in hot weather. I found this health advice on ehow.com just a few minutes ago –

    * Smell the paint. Paint has its own specific odour, but if it smells rancid like bad fish, the likelihood is that it is contaminated with bacteria and has gone bad. Paint is susceptible to mould and bacteria when it’s been exposed to water and left to sit for long periods.

    No fucking wonder I have been gassed by rancid paint into a feeling of sickness and an immediate hay fever response. The stupid twat manager claimed my hay fever was brought on by grass / flower pollen along a public footpath at the back of the premises, but I swore at him saying ‘it’s your fucking paint doing this to me’

    To think I had been asked by CCORRN yesterday and today to open up the weathered paint tins, empty them into waste containers and breathing in the fucking bacteria gas vapour from the old paint. No safety glasses or rubber hand gloves would stop me getting a lung infection from the mould and bacteria in the watery paint gunk.

    I reckon the stupid manager has been breathing in paint vapour for so long his brains have actually spilled out all over his trousers and he doesn’t even realise he is a complete twat. As I have finally been overcome by rancid paint, he couldn’t keep me on site no more, so I grabbed my rucksack and shoes and simply fucked off down the road simply to get clean, fresh air back in me.

    Seetec Wisbech have attempted to poison me by forcing me to deal with old paint fit for landfill only and not to be tested and mixed for public re-sale by some death-trap business claiming to have won a green award given to them by Fenland District Council in 2012.

    Other serious concerns I also have of them. There were NO fire extinguishers that I was even aware of, and if there was any, I was not shown their designated fire points nor told what to do in the event of fire breaking out or even where the arranged fire meeting point was away from the building. I was not given basic fire safety practices by this death-trap business, I was not told what to do in case of any accidents on site, nor who was a registered first-aider employed by the business.

    CCORRN are failing basic fire code practices, first-aid practices and the Health & Safety at Work Act. They should be fucking forced to close by the HSE until they clean up their dangerous practices. Only one toilet is available in their business unit, everyone male & female has to use the same one dirty toilet, there is no proper cleaning facilities such as anti-bacterial soap, no household cleaner products that I knew of or ever even saw and no floor cleaning products. Plus the whole site inside and outside is full of obstructions and trip hazards all waiting to maim a member of the public or staff. Only this morning, I tripped into a wooden pallet and nearly broke my neck whilst humping loads old paint tins into the back of the company van, and all the manager did was to tell me to be careful. I am careful at all times but not when stacked pallets either side of the alley way leading from the back of the yard to the main gates are fucking sticking out at all angles. Fucking death trap everywhere in that building.

    I’m glad I don’t have to be fucked about by them any more now and nearly end up in hospital possibly through being gassed out or by tripping over a pallet or a metal cage stacked full of fucking paint tins.

    • Just get out of there and don’t worry about what happens. Your health is the most important thing. Just take a dive, throw yourself on the floor and say you fainted because of the paint fumes. Then go the doctors and make sure it’s noted in your medical records and ask for a sick note. Then tell the Jobcentre that you refuse to go back because the fumes are making you ill. If they sanction you, appeal instantly and write a letter of complaint and maybe make a claim for ESA. If they find you another placement just do an utterly appalling job on purpose so that they will want you to leave because you are actually costing them money instead of saving it!!!

  48. Shut these fuckers down for being actively engaged with CWP workfare on a regular basis

    https://www.facebook.com/CCORRN

    THEY HAVE TRIED TO GAS ME INTO AN SEVERE ALLERGIC HAY FEVER ATTACK TODAY FROM BEING MADE TO DISPOSE OF OLD BACTERIA-INFESTED RANCID PAINT THAT HAS BEEN STORED OUTDOORS IN ALL WEATHERS.

    I assume that they will now automatically take on another one or two seetec (wisbech) trainees as soon as is possible later this week or next week following my early exit this afternoon from these cunts at March, Cambs.

  49. I already told my JCP, seetec and that death-trap I already had some health complications – hay fever / allergic to any chemical based smell, vapour, fumes. But they didn’t give a flying fuck then. They will now as today I have been poisoned by rancid paint into an allergenic seizure

    • Report your health problems to your GP as soon as you can. I’d also look for legal advice on the possibility of suing DWP and their scummy partrners in crime over the problems wokfare has caused for you.

      • workfare

        • Seetec failed to issue me with a full health questionnaire before packing me off to that community re-paint centre on the expectation of doing six months slave labour. I’ll be having a few choice words with them the next time I’m doing job search, reminding them I was placed into a potentially dangerous health issue regarding handling and emptying old, weathered paint pots without any prior safety briefing.

          My hayfever / allergen issues have cleared up now as it is easily triggered by anything from pollen to dust and certain chemical smells. The venting of odour from old paint affects my condition severely, irritating my eyes and nose and making me feel light-headed as happened today.

          Whilst during my induced episode, the manager at CCORRN was taking the piss with me by asking me to make tea and coffee drinks for all the other staff there. I was certainly in no mood to play tea boy for a manager ill-informed about any type of breathing condition and simply regarding it as a joke.

          It’s all done now. I’m no longer going over to March, Cambs, for 30 hours per week spread between Monday to Saturday (exc. Tuesday) on the hours of 9am to 4pm almost daily.

          • A two week placement could be described as work experience but 6 months is just absolutely taking the piss. 6 months for no pay and no job guarantee at the end is just slave labour and exploitation. I find just saying repeatedly that you’re too ill, refusing to even contemplate taking part in their ridiculous schemes and give them the phone number for your doctor and tell them to ring the surgery if they have any questions works best. Don’t even give them an inch or they will take a mile!

          • Doctor in the House

            Bear in mind that exposure to toxic chemicals can disturb the electrical balance of the heart; it can cause arrhythmias (abnormal heart rhythms) which can lead to cardiac arrest. What is going on at CCORN is very, very dangerous practices indeed. Their violations of basic health and safety protocols need to exposed and their premises and business shut-down! And those responsible should be subject to criminal prosecution.

            • PPE such as face masks and face visors don’t even exist in that death-trap. God forbid if ever a fire was to break out and spread through the site. Oil-based paint is mixed, tested, stored and sold there without any obvious fire protection safety procedures. I never once saw a fire alarm or sprinkler system in the premises…

              • This is the sort of place you do here about suddenly going up in flames. A Fire Service spokesperson commented: “The building was a fire-hazard and a disaster waiting to happen. Our thoughts at this time are with the family and friends of deceased”. A DWP spokesperson commented: “Although tragic, we do encourage our placement providers to follow the Provider Guidance to ensure the health and well-being of their participants.”

                • DWP and CWP providers ignore their own Provider Guidance. In my case, three of the rules have been whitewashed, especially rule 2.19

      • CCORN Are CUNTS!!

        Look how much payout in compensation a copper gets if they trip on a loose tile in the nick. Also, in a normal work environment you know how to conduct a full risk assessment before boiling a cup of tea. These CCORN cunts are absolutely taking the piss!

        • The manager of that (no names, ta – jv) only wanted me to make the staff hot fucking drinks yesterday right in the middle of having a fucking allergic reaction to their fucking toxic paint fumes.

          I noticed that he is only there between 8:30am and 1:30pm each day although they operate 9:00am to 4:00pm daily. He fucking spends half of the morning prannying around on their facebook page and cares fuck all about CWP attendees.

          Oh, the nearest bus stop I was having to use was almost 30 minutes walking distance one way to that piss-take place. the last two days I was there were fucking hot even at 8:30am when I made the long walk from the bus stop. Soon as I got there for the 9:00am start I was already sweating my ass off and then I had to get straight into a boiler suit overall with sweat pouring down my back before starting to ass about with old paint tins.

          • Marcus Pheasant

            Yes, not names, thank you very much, Fen Tiger!

            PS I can vouch for CCORN being a fantastic organisation to work! You get out what you put in, Fen Tiger.

            • Your toxic paint made me sick and triggered off a bad allergenic hayfever reaction, something which never happened to me before. I fucking told you I suffered from hayfever / allergies but you took the mickey and I was also not happy about the situation I was placed into by SEETEC.

              WORKFARE IS ILLEGAL. KEEP VOLUNTEERING VOLUNTARY, NOT FORCED SLAVE LABOUR FOR LESS THAN £6.31 PER HOUR.

              Where was my face mask and/or face visor when I was expected to handle and dispose of old paint, regardless of me being outside or not?

              Did you know that paint gives off carcinogenic cancer causing vapours, especially when paint stored outside in all weathers becomes contaminated with bacteria and thus releases ammonia gases?

              I will not compromise my health and well-being through workfare. People with hayfever go on to develop MCS (Multiple Chemical Sensitivity) – something of which I have, and what Seetec would never understand in their pursuit of profit before health.

              Seetec are cunts for NOT asking me any outstanding allergies / health conditions I may or may not have. Three members of my family have got ASTHMA, I have not. But I still do have certain health issues I need to be extra wary of.

              I truly hope you now understand why I reacted badly yesterday morning to the smell of the paint and how it caused my distressing allergenic attack. Walking back to the bus stop I ended up having an un-controllable sneezing fit, resulting up breathlessness along with irritated eyes and nose.

            • Obi Wan Kenobi

              Marcus Pheasant:

              How much taxpayers money is your poxy firm making each time you take a respectable jobseeker on? because the jobseeker who has been sentenced to work for you on the CWP for 6 months has no choice in this matter and no pay.

              If you class the Jobseekers Allowance they get as pay then your deluded.

              Jobseekers Allowance is a benefit (not a wage) paid to people who though no fault of their own find themselves unemployed.

              I just hope Marcus that you find yourself unemployed one day, then you will really know what it’s like on the dole and understand that what the DWP and Jobcentres tell businesses like yours regarding the unemployed is complete and utter bullshit.

              They may tell you the claimant has volunteered to work at your firm but that total rubbish – The truth is that it’s mandatory (forced if you like) – it’s either do it or the Jobcentre will stop the claimants Jobseekers Allowance.

              Sanctions Regime for Jobseekers Allowance claimants (getting your money stopped):

              1st Sanction = 3 months.
              2nd Sanction = 6 months.
              3rd Sanction = 3 Years.

              You and people like you make me sick, you haven’t the slightest inkling what it’s like.

  50. i put a review on there fb page lol i told the jcp same day i was sent home and still was sanctioned for not going so watch ur back😉

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      THERE CANNOT BE ANY BIGGER ABUSERS OF HUMAN RIGHTS THAN THE PRESENT UK GOVERNMENT………………….

      EVERYTHING THEY HAVE DONE, AND SEEK TO DO, BREACHES SOME PART OF THE PROTECTION AFFORDED BY THIS LEGISLATION.
      IT IS NO SHOCK THAT TODAY, CAMERON ANNOUNCED THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO SUPERSEDE THE CURRENT HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION, WITH ONE OF HIS OWN.

      WHY THE COURT;S OF HUMAN RIGHT;S SIT BACK AND DO NOTHING, MUST BE BEYOND THE OPPRESSED PEOPLE OF OUR ONCE PROUD NATION.

      EACH AND EVERY PART OF THE 2012 WELFARE REFORM ACTS, ENDORSED BY OUR FILTHY RICH MONARCH, IS AN ATTACK OF THE RIGHTS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US.

      “HOW MANY MORE UK PERSONNEL MUST DIE BEFORE THE TOOTHLESS COMMISSIONERS TAKE STEPS TO REDRESS THE ETHNIC CLEANSING OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS?”

      LYING, CHEATING, STEALING AND STATE ASSISTED MURDER IS ALL TO COMMON ON OUR SHORES, DESPITE THE LIKES OF THE BBC AND SKY NEWS PREFERRING NOT TO PUBLISH THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING…………………………………

      “THE FETID STENCH OF CORRUPTION OVERSHADOWS EVERYTHING OUR POLITICIANS SEEK TO DEBATE”………………….

      LOBBYING BY THE MULTINATIONALS HAS ENSHRINED THAT DEMOCRACY IS A THING OF THE PAST, THE WANT’S OF THE PEOPLE SECONDARY TO THE GREED OF THE CORPORATE GIANTS”.

      STEALING FROM THOSE LESS CAPABLE OF FIGHTING BACK, THE DISABLED, HAS OVERTAKEN POLO AS THE CHOSEN SPORT OF THE ELITE.

      SICK AND SUFFERING ARE THE NEW TARGET OF HATRED, FOXHUNTING RELEGATED TO THE PAST……………………

      ASK YOURSELVES, “HOW CAN A SO CALLED GOVERNMENT DEPARTMENT, THE DWP, WITHHOLD MORTALITY STATISTIC’S ON THOSE THAT HAVE SUCCUMBED TO DEATH AS PART OF BOTCHED WELFARE SCHEMES?”

      WE HAVE NO SHAME APPARENTLY?

      NEITHER HAVE THE COURT’S OF HUMAN RIGHT’S WHO SIT BACK, DOING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING FROM THEIR HIGHLY PAID POSITIONS, IT WOULD SEEM………………..

    • I explained to Seetec today that my placement made me go into allergenic seizure and they were fine with this. My placement advisor has already previously been told of my allergic reactions from JCP and CCORRN. That death trap at March did say to me yesterday that due to my allergic issues, there would not be very much for me to do anyway as 90% of the work is just paint testing and very little else besides. So I would have been heading for potential early exit from the place by Monday next week anyway.

  51. the place i was sent banned me from posting on there fb page and sent me a warning for posting the truth that they use mwa slaves on mass at there store https://www.facebook.com/armyofangels.charity run by pinnical ppl sub contracted by rehab group mwa 4 weeks 7hrs a day no food either

  52. Give them a piece of your mind for using unemployed people for free

    https://twitter.com/CCORRN

  53. CCORRN

    Our contact details –

    Telephone: 01354 607667
    Email: afmin@ccorrn.org.uk

    We’re also on Facebook and Twitter

    We may have a phone number and various internet contacts, but we will never reply or respond to you as we are fucking wankers who exploit the unemployed people for as much money as possible from the DWP.

    • You mean admin@ccorrn.org.uk, surely?

      • Nope, confused.

        It is afmin@ccorrn.org.uk printed on the toilet paper seetec gave me with details of placement confirmation and duties.

        • But ‘d’ if right next to ‘f’ on the keyboard! Sure it isn’t a typo? You know how illiterate these provider cunts are!

          • Yep, None of those CWP scabs give a flying monkeys about us. They would rather see us work for fuck all in any sort of low-life establishment. The place I went to is full of fire-prone paint and any old discarded rubbish (probably from the big land-fill site on Hundred Road, March) being recycled and sold to innocent members of the public.

  54. Signed at the jobcentre today and was told that in two weeks time I will be completing a claimant commitment that will replace my jobseekers agreement. Any comments regarding the claimant commitment that might be useful to me would be appreciated.
    Thanks

    Rob

  55. I’m on the new-fangled Claimant Commitment, being rolled out to all ESA / JSA customers across the country. The CC replaces the old JSA agreement and is very different to what you would have previously took to your JCP when signing on.

    The CC is a small booklet four pages in total – starting at the top of page one is your full name in a small box and underneath this, your full national insurance number in a small box.

    Underneath is the usual JCP propaganda rubbish ‘my types of work’ agreed with your job coach; ‘where I will work’ , usually the 90 minute travel time distance and ‘my availability for work’

    Page two: ‘my actions for getting work’ – is where it gets complicated and awkward for people transferring from the old JSA agreements.

    Page Three is telling you your rights, any changes in your circumstances that the DWP must know of and finally your claimant statement and underneath is where you and your job coach sign and date to seal the JSA contract conditions.

    Page four will be your new jobseeker profile, with your name, N.I. number, types of work you are likely to get, your qualifications, any work experience and your home circumstances. Your profile section does not form part of your commitment though.

    The first people to get the new commitment booklets are the ones who have completed the two-year work programme and are yet to go on the six month community work placement scheme. CWP referrals with a training provider take place within a month or two of work programme exiters. This is where the bullshit from the JCP starts big time during the six month post work programme support. Sanctions will be issued for anyone being late to, missing, or refusing mandatory CWP job search sessions and any placements handed out.

    Be careful once you go onto the new claimant commitment as the JCP will use it to sanction you for anything now and you get no chance to appeal easily.

    I’m on the new system and on the PWPS with Seetec, and these providers don’t give a fuck about my health and well-being after sending me to a death-trap assignment last week.

  56. my profile will be blank then pmsl i finished the wp in 20 mins and i was done with that shit.

  57. Hi Fen,
    Thanks for the info, very useful.
    I completed the work programme in june 2013 and after experiencing the bullying from the jobcentre for six months on the PWPS they left me to sign fortnightly for the last six months or so at the PWPS boxes. So it looks like I will have to sign the claimant commitment in two weeks time.
    One question Fen, I allow access to my UJM account just before I attend every fortnight, do you have to provide the jobcentre with much paperwork to prove your jobsearch while on the claimant commitment as paying for copies at the library doesn’t appeal to me.

    Regards

    Rob

  58. dont give them access to ur ujm account you mad!! dump that shit asap just fill in your paper job search n they cant do jack shit about it.

    i take pics of the jobs i find on me phone and show them that, if they want a print out ill give them the usb cable, o we cant plug that in on our shitty system can you email it to me instead, whats the fkn difference😉

    they not even got my phone number as they dont need it for my jsa claim and i dont give it to ass holes anyway.

    • Yes ted, but a lot of times advisors receive vacancies before they are put on the sytstem,🙂 So, if you allow us access to your UJM account, and to be honest I don’t see any reason not to, it will allow us to post the vacancies straight to your UJM account allowing you to apply before anyone else has the chance, giving you a “heads up” so to speak🙂 If you want to know more about how Universal Jobmatch can help you on your journey back into work, just ask you Personal Advisor – they will be happy to help! Happy Job-hunting!🙂

      • If you are indeed a JCP advisor, you want to look into why I was sent by Seetec Wisbech to a dangerous CWP workfare provider at March, Cambridgeshire –

        CCORRN on Commercial Road, March, Cambs.

        Provider Guidance 2.19 is being flouted as my health, safety and well-being was put at severe risk by this community recycling organisation.

        I am seriously fucking angry with them all.

      • Obi Wan Kenobi

        Obi Wan’s Health Warning:

        Universal Jobmatch can seriously fuck up your life.

  59. “do you have to provide the jobcentre with much paperwork to prove your jobsearch while on the claimant commitment as paying for copies at the library doesn’t appeal to me.”

    They cannot specify how jobsearch is presented and as mentioned never give them access to your account.people have been sanctioned in front of that.

    Sadly its to many people whose honesty against their dishonesty.watch out for dirty tricks as attempting to get a signature for an appointment letter,a space where the time should be not filled in but the date is.check all appointment paperwork and keep it.

  60. Re; Allowing JCP access to your UJM account. Firstly, withdraw your consent for them to access your account, as under EU law, a third-party monitoring an online account is illegal. Secondly, the DWP’s own universal jobmatch toolkit specifical states:

    quote

    ‘paragraph 53. You also cannot issue a Jobseeker’s Direction to mandate a claimant to give us access to their account – this is their decision not ours.’

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/151933/response/367730/attach/3/Universal%20Jobmatch%20Toolkit%20as%20at%2005%2003%2013.pdf

    Print out their own rules regarding universal jobmatch and show them Chapter 03, paragraph 53. I did, and forced my JCP advisor to cease trying to constantly gain access to my UJM account. Once they are reminded of their own rules, they can’t do fuck all about it, short of being sacked.

    They also cannot force you to access and use UJM on your own home computer neither as this mandated activity is illegal under the EU cookie law directive (E-privacy directive). you can lawfully refuse UJM cookies placed and stored on your own internet device (home computer).

    Demand a paper copy of the cookie policy as used by UJM.

  61. Never, ever allow your JCP access to your universal jobmatch account. This website is designed to be a sanctioning tool by them, not to help you find and apply for jobs. If you have already given them access, remove it immediately. If they get shirty as to your reasons of withdrawing consent, quote their own rules back at them by showing a print out of the UNIVERSAL JOBMATCH TOOLKIT PDF FILE.

    PWPS providers might also demand UJM account access or job printouts too. Use the same UJM toolkit rules as these PWPS providers also have to comply with the same rules.

  62. Help me to expose and stop this organisation from exploiting unemployed people in a dangerous environment. Paint testing and paint mixing is being done by Seetec trainees in a poorly-ventilated test area.

    https://www.facebook.com/CCORRN

    CWP trainees are also asked to remove contaminated waste paint stored outside in all weathers and thus is subject to mould, bacteria, and an overwhelming stench of ammonia / peroxide from these said paint tins.

    CCORRN made me ill from an induced hayfever / allergic seizure from handling and disposing of contaminated waste paint, and then tried to blame my health condition on grass, flower pollen.

    • 26 weeks of this shit is a DEATH SENTENCE!! Why don’t Seetec/DWP/CCORN just throw their victims in the GAS CHAMBER and be fucking done with it.

      • Seetec Wisbech and ccorrn on my first day there should have automatically issued with me the correct PPE (face mask and face visor) for handling such hazardous waste products. They NEVER did and have in the process attempted to seriously compromise my health and well-being all for the fucking work experience scam. I’m no longer there after leaving yesterday lunchtime.

        This morning, I am still feeling the after-effects of being gassed by being asked yesterday morning to open rusty paint tins stacked outside in all weathers and simply tip the toxic paint into waste containers.

        I’m also pissed off as I have bad sunburn in my arms from being outside in the shade-less yard twice this week in the full effects of the midday heatwave. It must have been at least pushing 40c in that concrete, walled-enclosed yard yesterday and I was wearing fucking overalls, boots and safety glasses in that oven.

        Because of the extreme heat in that yard, a large number of the metal tins were expanding, causing them to ting and pop. I was waiting for one of them to actually explode its sealed lid off and probably smack me right in the face.. Most of those old, rusty tins contained oil-based paints, which as we all know are highly combustible substances in contact with certain conditions – heat, matches, static generated sparks.

        Seetec will hear about this as I will be making a full complaint in due course over un-safe, dangerous working conditions.

        Fire exits open at all times and partially obstructed – they should be closed and only used in fire emergencies, and free from any obstacles. I was not shown a copy of the Fire Action Plan, nor told where to go in case of a fire breaking out – no designated fire assembly point.

        Various seen and un-seen trip hazards in the small yard. I nearly fell over three times this week alone by tripping up on wooden pallets stacked carelessly. If I had indeed broken my neck on-site, I would be an un-necessary burden on the already over-worked NHS.

        • Imagine telling a JCP/Seetec “advisor” or DWP “decision maker” to go into the broom cupboard and mix paint for six month? They would tell you to take a flying fuck. If it is sauce the the goose….

        • btw you might no be longer there but you can bet your last referral fee that some other poor sod will be. This GAS CHAMBER need SHUT DOWN NOW!! before any other jobseekers’ health is destroyed!!

          • CCORRN take in Seetec Wisbech clients on a regular basis. One person who started with me last Friday Morning from Seetec quit after only two days as he cannot stand for more than three hours due to a bad foot he has got. I’ve now fallen through my hayfever / allergenic health problems flaring up from inhaling the fucking volatile paint fumes in the enclosed back yard. The ‘development director’ of CCORRN took the piss with me and claimed it was flower pollen irritating me. Pollen and dust makes me suffer bad sneezing fits which can last quite a while. Paint or chemical smells and fumes don’t make me sneeze, but they affect me badly in other ways.

    • CCORN are SCUM!!

      If you read the Facebook page it is apparent those benefiting from it are the usual middle-class knobheads busy brushing up their CVs, making a tidy salary, advancing their career prospects and all the while peddling their bullshit “green agenda” as the “dolies” are left to destroy their health through handling toxic and noxious hazardous substances. Enough to make you sick – literally!

      • Same with groundworks, luv. I’ve seen them in the local park. And the guy supervising the jobseekers was ever so posh.

        • Oops, meant to say The Conservation Volunteers.

          • Groundworks/TCV are SCUM!!

            Groundworks, TCV , same difference – the are both fucking SCUM!!

            • My PPE instructions from Seetec/ccorrn –

              ‘You will need to wear safety boots at all times and safety glasses when testing paint. Overalls and gloves will also be supplied for your protection and to keep your clothes clean.’

              Nothing about face masks or face visors being supplied to me…

    • Mixing materials with unknown composition can result in random, unforeseen chemical reactions, some of which could lead to the formation of highly dangerous reaction products: toxic, flammable or possibly explosive.

  63. CCORN are SCUM!!

    But oh look, Rupert and fucking Penelope are pretending to test some paint!

  64. Keyboard Warrior

    Well done team!🙂 Top work!🙂

  65. CCORRN phone number – 01354 607667

    Tell them to stop being actively engaged with the CWP. Help me force them down for using free, slave labour in the bollocks work experience scheme. It has fucked my health up after being gassed by open paint tins containing bacteria and ammonia gas, and I have been fucking sunburnt to a crisp in their back yard and whilst out in the van humping waste tins on and off in extreme heat conditions.

  66. This is the cunt (who owns and runs CCORRN) who didn’t give a flying fuck about me yesterday when I lapsed into a bad allergenic attack –

    http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/marcus-pheasant/24/502/528

  67. Anybody who has to handle any chemical materials should ask to see the product’s Material Safety Sheet and take particular notice of the Risk and Safety phrases.

    • CCORRN collects and recycles old paint tins from various council recycling depots across Cambridgeshire. A proportion of these collected paints are disposed of in large plastic waste containers on-site at CCORRN by the volunteer staff AND seetec trainees not wearing face masks or face visors. Paint mixing and paint testing is also carried out in breach of Fire regulations and the Health & Safety at Work act. Nobody wears the correct full PPE during close exposure to paint.

      None of the collected paint products have any safety sheets with them as they are only from the recycling depots’ container bays, not ex-shop stock.

  68. I like the way the Voidster posts a picture as if he was solely behind this back pedal via Twattage comment. It happened prior to that but then again when in Rome do as the cunts do eh Johnny; this is all about you after all?

    • Dont be a prick eh, I posted that because it was a tweet to me and it happened to be the first one I saw. What did you want me to post?

      • Just make sure you keep an eye on them, don’t want them sneaking back in now, do we?

        • JV, can you possibly remove the post from Marcus Pheasant, seeing as how I now hate the twat and he placed me into future skin cancer problems from making me work in extreme heat and UV rays earlier this week?

          Many thanks if you can block him from your blog site.

  69. Toxic Greens recycling the unemployed would not touch their third way social enterprise with a barge-pole.

  70. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog and commented:
    Johnny Void names and shames the Bristol computer firm, Byteback, as a participant in workfare. Since Void criticism, however, Byteback have to their credit pulled out of the scheme. It’s another victory in the campaign against this disgusting exploitation.

  71. Top work to the void, excellent.

  72. Roger The Lodger

    Company named Maxwell Reece in Bristol, no longer used by the Dole! Fancy that, even the dole deemed them to be outta line…

    Put it this way. It was sort of voluntary as far as I knew, some kinda odd mix but basically they would have a few perm staff, but 3 if not four unpaid staff all on JSA. Know a number who worked for them, know of them by chance but either way…used 3 or, 4, doubtless got paid for this but dole said they were not exactly following the rules and actually no longer deal with them!! Surprisingly!

    If even the dole find em too bad, that’s gotta say something.

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