Hands Off London Transport Campaign Flash Mob January 10th 3pm Euston Tube Station

hands-off-london-transportLike so many Tory policies, it is the poorest who will be hardest hit by Boris’ bungled plans to remove station staff from tube stations.

As well as making the London transport network even less accessible to disabled people or those with young children, this move will cause chaos for those who cannot afford annual or monthly season tickets and have to buy a ticket every time they travel on the underground.

Most Londoners will already have experience of arriving at a station and finding it impossible to buy a ticket due to broken machines.  Without station staff this will mean people are unable to travel, or are likely to face a penalty fare when they reach their destination.  Revenue Protection Officers, working to strict targets, rarely listen to excuses.  For those on the lowest incomes these can be devastating, particularly as these £40 fines rise to £80 if not paid within 21 days.  For someone on the dole this represents over a week’s income.

Already the cost of transport into Central London makes it almost impossible for those on the lowest incomes to travel regularly into the city centre.  That is why many of the people working in pubs, shops and restaurants in Central London are from overseas, often living in dormitory style accommodation or hostels.  Someone living in Zone 6 who needed to travel into London everyday would face a weekly fare bill of a staggering £55 – approaching a third of a weekly net minimum wage.

It is not that people from the UK are too lazy to take this kind of work, or even that there is a benefit system which pays people to stay at home as lying politicians claim.  The stark truth is that it is financially impossible for many Londoners to take low paid work in the centre of the capital due to astronomical rents and transport costs.

Stripping away station staff will only make this problem worse, particularly for disabled people who are already excluded from much of London’s transport system.  On top of this nearly 1000 station staff are set to lose their jobs.

Any Mayor worthy of the position – and no-one ever has been – should be striving to make London’s transport system both fully accessible and affordable, or even free.  Boris Johnson is doing the opposite.  A wave of strikes and protests is inevitable, and they deserve the support of all Londoners.

A flash mob will get the ball rolling this Friday 10th January.  Meet at 3pm in Euston Tube station ticket office, for more details visit: http://dpac.uk.net/2014/01/hands-off-london-transport-campaign-supported-by-dpac-flash-mob-january-10th-3pm-euston-tube-station/

For more information on the Hands Off London Transport campaign visit: http://handsofflondontransport.wordpress.com/

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69 responses to “Hands Off London Transport Campaign Flash Mob January 10th 3pm Euston Tube Station

  1. @Johnny disabled ppl such as myself get to use the freedom pass free travel..it covers London area. And has been very helpful to me…just thought I would mention this..

    • One of the residents where I am has a freedom travel card which takes her right up to 2018. How about that…

      • doesn’t help much if you can’t use a tube station because it isn’t accessible does it?

      • Bobchewie – I fear for you already – How long before they take that away from you because they suddenly decide your free travel is costing the tax payer £XX amount a year?

        It is good you get free travel at present but, wont taking the staff away cause a multitude of problems for the any physically disabled person from easy access in and around the stations?

        • something survived...

          I was told as I don’t live in London I can’t get this card or any concession/discount for disability when I go to London, which I can hardly afford to do any more (like twice a year). I’ve fallen down ‘The Gap’ at least three times due to overcrowding plus seizures. Only passengers saved me on one time, only platform staff another time, and I saved myself the other time by grabbing the base of the train as I fell. With no staff to have grabbed me that time they did, I could have been fried on the rail or run over.

          Boris is a twat. If anyone deserves to get fried or run over just as an example to the public of what this looks like (size and money and disabilities all rule me out of a boris-bike), then probably most commuters would not be so annoyed by the delays due to ‘One Under’ (= Person has been run over by train) if they found out it was him. But they might be delayed many hours as the police would then have an infinite list of suspects for who actually pushed him.

          Hauling luggage on trains is awkward if you are tiny and weigh less than your luggage, but the worst bit is stairs on the tube. And nobody helps you. People including staff have said stupid things like don’t come down here, don’t take so much luggage. I explained it was minimum essential luggage and I had no other choice! Getting rid of staff means less potential people to help. I normally now go with just a rucksack, but this plus disability means asking for help to go through the wide gate. If staff went, how do disabled people and others get through the gate? If they automated it, what if it wasn’t working? Or your disability stops you using it? Like you don’t have usable hands, or are 2ft and can’t reach controls?
          One of the stupidest responses I get all the time is the comment ‘you should only go out with your carer’ – I don’t have a carer. A silly one I get now is the doubletake people do if I try to explain, ‘yes I’m disabled and I’m here for a sporting event, as a PARTICIPANT in fact, and though a disabled athlete and live independently, still need help with some things and I’ll let people know what they are when they arise!’ It’s like either you don’t need help/should not be in disability sport (cause THEY are suddenly world experts on disability!), or you do need help and should not be travelling alone and probably shouldn’t have the temerity to do sport either.

          It’s not just that: imagine parents trying to negotiate a barrier/gate that is broken, with kids and buggy? Old person with walking aid?
          Boris you utter moron. Except to call him that is a compliment. He should try using public transport with adaptations to make him temporarily disabled: like a wheelchair for a week, then a week of each of: blindfold; blocked ears to stop him hearing; upside-down glasses (the ones that stop you knowing which way’s up); boxing gloves (to simulate no usable hands); legs tied together; going round on his knees to simulate being short. Accompany him by policeman who will taser him if he removes the adaptation even to use the toilet.
          One more week of being randomly tasered anyway, if he survived all the above, to simulate random collapses or seizures. Another good one would be a week of forcefeeding with water/laxatives to simulate ‘being incontinent when there is no toilet’. (It’d be the most realistic of the simulations).
          If Boris had to use his own public transport network (hang on I thought it belonged to the people?), even as his physically ablebodied but really thick self, would he feel the same way about cutting services?

          PS Boris what are you going to do about knife attacks, muggings, drugtaking and rapes on buses, that are escalating despite CCTV?

  2. remember a few years ago, london underground replaced the staff with “volunteers” from these so called training agencies

  3. Just seen Chris “Oh, Betty” Grayling on the news saying that he intends to clamp down on ‘violent offenders’… when can we see Iain Duncan Smith being clamped down on then?

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  5. Met police want water cannon ready to use in Britain by summer, makes you think why, what are they expecting
    http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/08/met-police-water-cannon-britain

    • something survived...

      I’ve been water cannoned and all I did was go to Campsfield House on foot peacefully and say don’t lock up, mistreat or deport immigrants. Do we have free speech or not? Funny how we say we do, but we send people back to countries that clearly don’t have any, making them ‘bad countries’. And therefore in our skewed logic, countries whose citizens are too dodgy to let in or grant asylum to.

  6. off topic
    Francis Maude plays down universal credit IT row with DWP
    Minister says it is normal for Cabinet Office to provide support to departments on IT problems after pullout of team is confirmed
    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/jan/08/francis-maude-universal-credit-it-row-dwp

  7. Eric Pickles is a Fat Cunt

    Just seen that fat cunt Eric “Pie Face” Pickles on BBC Parliament taking out of his fat arse – give that man a pie!

    • A pie with shit or poison in it – greedy guzzler wouldnt notice till too late lol

      • Just another lazy pig living off the fat of workers, whilst shirking on about how hard he grafts; bloody VAMPIRE!

    • something survived...

      Were you sure if it was his arse or his mouth? This case requires screen capture or freezeframe, followed by meticulous pixel-by-pixel analysis!

      With regular people, in these cases the orifice of pie entry is usually the mouth. And the orifice of waste exit tends to be the arse. However with Tories, particularly cabinet ministers, some have kinks requiring pie entry via the arse, which would confuse observers. Similarly others may consume waste via mouth entry.

      An unnamed Westminster prostitute said: “I didn’t so much mind shitting in his mouth, but what really grossed me out was having to be that close to a Tory; and I had to take five showers just to feel GRUBBY.”

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  10. My £15 nokia phone has a basic camera on it, so if the machines are all down I take a picture, so if some officious inspector calls me a liar I can tell him I will have him hauled into the criminal proceedings against me (as is my right) to explain to the judge why he wasted 5k of taxpayers money,instead of letting me pay at the destination. But, that isnt really the point. London transport costs have risen dramatically, with little feel of improvement to the services.This is because TFL uses as much revenue in running itself as it raises, thus becoming yet another tax burden. Everyone knows someone who works on the underground. When they started the improvements, they put more speakers all over the platforms. The sonic bombardment of trivia is now mind numbing.
    They spent millions re tiling the walls. Wasted money. The escalator refurbs are a joke; 3 months after they finish one, they start it again because the motors are the wrong sort (I assume, they never explain).
    After 3 years of spending money they decided it might be a good idea to look at the signals.
    Thats the level of incompetence the tube is run with, the buses are no different.
    Any job paying min wages in zone 1 is carried out by somebody living in unacceptable conditions(overcrowding) or in assisted housing.
    Min wage workers are expected to live like cattle,and never afford to breed. The interest rates remain at an an unsustainable low, the housing crisis is exacerbated by buy to let landlords ever increasing there portfolio’s by hedging the unguaranteed capitol gains on yet more property. The bankers who stole £860 billion and caused this mess live in canary wharf penthouses while the government blames it on benefits layabouts. Your bills go up and up and up. No utilities ‘service’ gives any value for money, and the politico turn a blind eye to the people being fleeced because they are collecting lobyiing backhanders or are in bed with the europeans who own the companies. And finally, when you are on the skids, you go into asda for a small loaf of real bread and it costs 70p where five years ago it cost 30.
    This information should be printed in 80 languages and pasted around the walls of victoria station to deter the next bunch of slaves arriving.

  11. Given that 4 London Boroughs don’t recognize the Blue Badge Scheme, that the Blue Badge Scheme today is not available to thousands since the criteria were changed, the Underground is impassable for many disabled people – me thinks this plan just further removes accessibility into London – whether you live there or not – to disabled people. Now, can somebody tell me what the Equality Act is for?

    • The equality act is yet another PC stunt farce as it excludes inclusion – Tis why, although sounds PC it actually isnt (Nothing new there then),

      Not everyone should be treated equal, by doing so it excludes not only individualism but religions, ethics, beliefs and so much more.

      Example: 50 people in a care home are hungry, Pork is on the menu – 20 people are of a religious belief a further 5 are vegetarians, Equality demands everyone is treated equally. Your get what you are given, just like the everyone else`…… 25 people then go hungry.

      There should be an Inclusion act – Equality doesnt work, esp for the disadvantaged.

      • Oh, that one is easy. 25 people can eat only pork, and the others get twice the veg. They can balance the diets up at the next meal …
        ;#}

  12. i am no expert on the equality act, but I can tell you about common sense. Years ago they started adding lifts to the underground, in places like Mill Hill tube station. It cost £2000000 to put the lift in, and 5k a year to have it inspected, serviced etc..on a contract. It wasnt used once a year. It would be cheaper to hire a limousine, pick up the disabled passenger and there whole entourage from there various homes and take them to wherever they wanted to go in the u.k. and bring them back when they wanted to return than it was to install that lift. They could have left the 2 mill in a hi interest account to pay for it and they would have made a profit! Human rights should be tempered by common sense and mediation. ;#}

    • Human rights with common sense – if only – The PC of everything screws common sense, it never favours the victim, never serves any real justice.

      Equality / Political correctness etc is a means to cover the arses of the fat cats is all. It serves no other purposes

      • Which is why the fat cats wont let us out of Europe.. The guy operating the machine gets 15k a year and a paupers pension, the guy standing behind him ticking boxes on a sheet of paper lives like a king.
        Jobs for the boys!

        • something survived...

          But years before stations started installing lifts, it was already years after laws told them they should have had them for years already!

    • most/many people have already left the train before mill hill – or still on there because they fell asleep/missed their stop & need to go back to camden …

      • … at least now if they did decide to get out/have a wander they’d see that there’s a lift in situ…make the most of it while it’s there & it works – before they decide there’s not enough ‘footfall’ & whip it away again (?) …

        • Well, they wouldnt get the chance on sat 11th, half the network ‘down’
          because of ‘failures’, and the woman at the window told me it was
          probs staff ‘warming up for strike action’. .
          Honestly, if 18k isnt fair for waving a ping pong bat on a dry platform, these buggers should try shovelling concrete for a living.
          Most of them are inept for anything else, and just listening to the announcements is evidence enough of education shortfalls. No sympathy after todays reminder of previous disruption.

          • it’s not a great fortune though in London, is it? Not a great fortune further up north either, the way costs have escalated (pun not intended). Everyone on these (relatively) fair-to-middling amounts should be getting a more 2013-fit-for-purpose wage – from binmen to office workers to shop workers to cleaners to concrete shovellers to ping-pong players.

            (Tell her to stop standing outside your window or ask her in for a hot drink – it’s freezing out there).

            • Somebody who has never shovelled concrete wouldnt understand why somebody who gets paid 18k with holidays etc to wave a bat and see trains off should not complain too loudly.But, I also accept that inflation is intentionally high with the aim of making the lower earners pay for the bankers mistakes.

        • Actually, I take that back. They and every concrete shoveller out there should get exactly the same wages and perks as a MEMBER of parliament. That is only fair, as MEMBERS of the house do less work even than a MEMBER of the Playboy (MEMBER bashers international) club.

        • Even if there English aural is bad, as ‘MEMBERS’ can only speak
          ‘BullShit’.

        • i don’t understand pay structures & wildly differing/unequal levels of pay.
          Back in the mists of time ‘responsibility’ (surgeons) & levels of training (doctors/lawyers) were deemed to merit high pay – and more recently, ball-kicking/assorted racket skills were added in, along with being able to sing opera or pretend to be other people for money. Manual workers/labourers and (the minions/millions of) office drones were decreed worthy of being paid way less …. some of these jobs are ‘comfy’ but can also be repetitive, stressful and carry their own h&s issues (back problems or risk of dvt/carpal tunnel syndrome, hypertension etc.). Funnily enough these groups make up ‘most’ of the people, most of the time.

          Prostitution, as i understand it, is (not completely, but quite unusual in) mainly paying more to people when they are younger or can specialise, yet diminishing amounts as they become older. They might be able to charge far less (maybe similarly to people who do other forms of really physically and/or debilitating hard work who might end up not being able to continue their usual work) in later life. Ditto unless you’re Meryl Streep, Dame Anyone orI Sir Ian McKellan. That would also strengthen the argument for rates of pay being higher overall in these lines of work – or for more equal levels across the board.

          Parenting (still not) officially recognised as being worth very much in real money terms – along with most other forms of caring (official or unofficial) – in monetary terms. Even childcare/caring for the vulnerable and/or elderly (as an employee) has been valued at very little, pay-wise.

          Taxi drivers, just now, seem convinced they’re on a road to nowhere/should change jobs. Factory workers/unsocial hours/dangerous and heavy building site work … the more mind-numbing or physically demanding the greater should be the reward (as against, say, an accountant – or the rates should equalise – rationally and if fairness were the aim (?). Not sure about man on platform with table tennis bat -he should probably also get more than he does as it doesn’t sound like much fun – any more than shovelling concrete does (& without knowing his terms & conditions). But who’s “enough” is enough? There are so many jobs i know i couldn’t do/wouldn’t be good at …. which seems to justify someone else being paid reasonably well for doing them. (Whatever reasonably well means to any one of us).

          People who ‘write’ books like.50 Shades of Grey receive a shedload of money, as against people recognised for their talent only after their death (Sylvia Plath) – just viewed as a ‘housewife’ during their lifetime. One man’s talent = another man’s xfactor. There could be enough for everyone (everywhere?) to be ‘comfortable’ (& work fewer hours?) yet some are obscenely rich (& think they deserve it) while many more struggle their whole lives; and then they die. Jobs that not many people could or would not want to do are the ones that traditionally command lower pay levels (?). It doesn’t make sense (of course it does – it’s capitalism). The royal family (Buckingham Palace version) are not as entertaining as (say) the Kumars at No.42 but receive 59,000,000 times more for doing a less entertaining but similar kind of thing …

          People not in paid work – would need a separate comment but already been much discussed & at least it’s being talked about in various places.

          We could theoretically not use cash as a currency, allegedly. Shops open and fully stocked/people going in and getting (eg) bread as/when they needed it – without stockpiling or panic buying (counter-argument – “but some still would”). We would not all need to have the same-coloured front doors – only a broadly similar type (counter-argument – “some would want bigger/better”). Work would have to be allocated/rotated (which is where i think my eyes/brain start to glaze over – it sounds a bit like what we’re getting now)/not having read up on it enough do not fully clear about how that might work … man’s inhumanity to wo/man.

          • Hi Shirley, I am in total agreement with you, it makes no sense that people who can hold a note to sing or pretend to be someone else (Actors) are pretty much the highest paid folk on the planet.
            Whilst those who dedicate their lives caring for others or even dying for their country (in Government made wars- what other wars are there?) get but a fraction of such wealth.

            But then, we live in a supposed democratic society where folk who have no experience nor qualification that deems them suitable to run the country…. erm,,,, well, running the country and getting paid shedloads to do so (as also hating the weaker, poorer and more vulnerable)

            If only everyone saw things the way we do, if they did, Government, Actors, Singers, Writers, Royalty, The Church etc would not be the richest people in the world and we could solve all the worlds debt and other moral problems via common decency and common sense.

            What gets me too is, People like Elton John (Arrogant and stupidly rich toss pot) and Cliff Richard (Why is he still going??) are even Knighted for being the singer songwriter having supposedly given so much to us all for god knows (too many) how many years.

            Never liked either of them much nor, do I respect or care about the other Sirs out there. They truly aint worthy of any knighthood or recognition compared to the multitudes of people that do, that have done so much for others in numerous of ways.
            Just goes to show exactly how warped society actually is to accept and not think twice about it all .

            • thanks elohimette, i’ve just come over a bit philosophical in the past few days (wasn’t really ever imagining becoming ‘long-term unemployed’ & it’s making me re-re-evaluate almost everything). Where have i been? How did i get here? What does it all mean & is there going to be any kind of a (good) happy ending? What’s life going to be like for the next generation? What if i worked harder at school … just little things really.

              I think we do need theatre & films, circuses (and music) to encourage discussion and sharing of ideas/offer a means of escape – they ought to be more accessible/affordable – but surely we don’t need Sir Cliff – there’s just no need. He has his vineyards so (thankfully) only needs to be wheeled out on state occasions now. Don’t really mind Sir Elton but probably it’s because i liked some of his (very) earlier stuff – he was badly behaved when they followed him around with cameras, but at least he does sometimes try to help other people – from the very little i’ve read about him.

              It’s difficult to believe we are living in this 2014 version of 1984 and that the likes of IDS are walking the earth … i know my parents’ generation went through a lot (born around 1930/40s) – worked hard (as they say) – did what we now know were “the right things” (got married, paid their taxes, brought up a family/bought consumer goods) but it’s becoming like looking back on an innocent/golden time of ‘everyday normality’ – i know it wasn’t all that – plenty of things could never be discussed/there was a recession/redundancy – but if i had to choose between then & the political reality that has is now …

              • Ah, but when you grew up, there had been two big wars. Land was cheap, men got paid enough for the wife to stay at home. . .
                It wasnt easy as such, but the men didnt expect europe to invade and destroy there living standards un opposed like they have now. Four bedrooms for an average single wage is right out the window. There arent enough coconuts on this island to go round.

            • “that is now” (meant to say).

            • When did Europe destroy our living standards? Wasn’t that to do with the selling off/decimating of industry and the move to a service economy? (One wage stopped being enough to support x5 people @1970s and it hasn’t ever seemed likely that a house was going to be something I’d ever be going to buy – supposing that was an aim – from 1985 onwards). Friends have bought, even in London – always with a.n.other person – & even if that other person was a friend/it was a mortgage of convenience.

              Is it not something to do with women (competing and taking up many of the jobs that might otherwise been done by men, once they began to realise that there is in fact more to life than housework, making the tea and doing the shopping – or even doing the shopping and making the tea?). This is not my area of expertise – other than what i’ve tried to inwardly digest from reading this blog & others (& in one year of economics, aeons ago – which wasn’t much really) & the economic woes/european aspect of the UK’s financial state are still fairly mysterious (i understand that job creation isn’t happening and that the economy is stagnating & that “we’re all doomed”). Just more inclined to take on board comments about the bank(st)ers and the government raping & pillaging and selling off/grabbing anything they can for themselves than i am to blame those pesky (other) Europeans – but there’s obviously been (quite a lot that ive missed).

              Also my own most recent working-life experiences have been uniformely of everyone being asked to do more, more quickly with the same or fewer resources/man-hours and (in 2011) various employees/departments being ‘cut’/streamlined – to “make efficiencies”? This would seem to fit with the idealogical wish to see people struggle more/drive wages down/dismantle the NHS etc, that’re the main subject that keeps cropping up on here. Our own tragic excuse for ‘government’ managing/overseeing all this cheerfully by their own hand – isn’t that very directly our problem?

            • o.i.c.
              that’s a lot of history to cover.
              There have been swings & roundabouts though, across the course of a century, haven’t there? Without going back to WW1, conditions (socially) improved – albeit gradually – post-WW2, what with the establishing of the welfare state and unions’ effective and sustained involvement in improving pay/conditions for workers (inc. for women) – so it wasn’t alll downhill from there on in …

              Not going to be able to agree about this as firstly i don’t know enough ab\out when we joined the common market etc. (but have not ever thought of it a a bad thing) & because i see this country as being part of europe/don’t really understand what the problem is & think there’s enough to be concerned about domestically (with what our own government is doing to it’s people). Their wish to isolate us from the rest of europe and to pare back our access to human rights doesn’t make me feel more anti-europe. It seems to be closer to home that there’s been a concerted effort to destroy our living standards & set one group of society against another.

              Perhaps we only hear what we want to hear.

              • Most of Europe is a basket case of fraud and rule breaking. The U.K. gets stuffed because we follow all the silly regs and stipulations, and the other members do not. Simple really.

            • ok i don’t see it quite like that. If it were so simple and the simplest answer and best solution is to walk away then ok (vote ukip). But looked at another way, there’s quite a bit more to it than bendy bananas and the working time directive. Whether or not the wtd might caused problems in places like hospitals along with the many other problems they’re up against – whatever may have been the intention, we would stand to lose everything else along with the reciprocity that goes with it – not just the things you’d be trying to get rid of & so it seems way too drastic/unilateral.

              We would be seen to be little Englanders and to me that’s no solution. Whatever’s gone wrong@ukplc is complex & multi-factorial/cumulative/the upshot of many shootings of ourselves in the foot/cutting off our noses to spite our faces here at home (but mainly a longstanding & sustained ideologically-driven attack on the people by governments – ending with the democide we are witnesing now).

              • The working time directive is a toothless piece of legislation that means somebody has to sign a piece of paper waiving it before they are employed on bad shifts. Did you know in this country cement bags used to weigh 50kilo’s? Health and safety had it knocked down to 40kg’s, quite sensibly. Then Europe had them knocked down to 25 kilo’s; end result; any labourer who cant carry two at a time is not employed tomorrow. Please feel free to tell me something I would lose that matters if we left europe. I am sure the populations of Norway and Switzerland (both struggling countries, obviously) would be intrigued as to what it is they are missing out on, and why they are referred to as little Switzerlanders and Little Norwayers.. .?
                I am not taking the mickey, I ACTUALLY WANT TO KNOW !

            • Free movement of citizens. (Being part of the EU is about overall gains & losses, not just what any one individual might gain). Maybe someone you know or have ever met might benefit from this now or at some time in the future … thought you’d like this one.

              • So, I get on a ferry, and I go to france.When I get off I have to show a passport.
                A Norwegian drives down to france thru Belgium, and there isnt even a stop point. A Norwegian or a Swiss can move about europe easier than I can. So thats that one out the window. Please tell me something I would
                actually lose by not being in the E.U.,

            • I’m not likely to be able to tell you anything you don’t already know (or don’t want to know). Definitely don’t claim to be any kind of an export in matters eu-related. (A relative of mine is – sort of – but it’s not a subject that comes up, much, these days). When they were living/working in Bruxelles we did have the occasional political/policy-related discssions but they were few & far in between talk of chocolates (Belgian), frites and beer/the advantages/disadvantages of shutters on the outside of buildings.

              That’s it – that’s about how far my knowledge stretches (have spent far less time in europe than many other people I know) but if there were a vote tomorrow I’d be in the probable minority voting to stay in the EU.

              Ps. (The free movement was as in free to travel to live, work, study in eu countries as opposed to just going for a visit & apparently quite a few young//er people are/have been doing this – & good on them – I’d probably do the same if I were them – as they do say travel broadens the mind).

              • @ Shirley and Pat – My appologies I left the discussion a couple of days back and have only just returned.
                My response will either get backs up or be sighed at but, truly I am merely being me and wishing only life was so much simpler like it should be.

                Being in The EU is of no interest to me (whether we are or not I mean), Regardless of where we are on this planet no one should be allowed to say they own any of it and certainly not own the people within the region of confines (under disguise of `partnering up`) – To me this is why people have come to accept the greedy and power hungry elites of this world via fighting out silly politics that benefits no one but the fat cats – Illusions is all it is, pretence that our argument i being listened to, when we all really should know by now, what will be, will be because the end result has already been decided .

                When this planet was born it belonged to nobody and the entirety was a free for all, only greedy and power hungry man bought and sold at the weaker mans expense, bullying, killing, abusing their way to the top – Whether it be Government / Religion / Monarchy, they all abused their way to the top and thats the only reason they exist – Note all are the most richest parasites on the planet today .

                I believe the anyone and everyone on this planet has a right to live and breathe wherever they want because a country, any country is a mere fraction of the rest of the planet that was free until greedy man stole it – It is only an argument regarding rights of the country to those who stole it from the people in the first place or by the ignorant whom believe their country loves them as they love it.
                What idiocy of the patriot. The soldier who fights wars for their country is merely fighting the governments war and what does he / she get in return? Sweet FA – look at the soldier on benefits facing Atos for crying out loud.

                Further ranting….. I wish European patriots would look back in history and see every once great nation and ancient civilization has either been wiped out (Incas) or destituted by the Europeans (such as Africa (Esp Egypt) / Autralia/ Native America/ India) – So why the Hell do they whine so when the countries we (Brits) have taken over have people accept us and want to be part of us?

                I will admit, I believe The UN to be shifty and an en route to a NWO but, cannot see it any time soon because, as ever The West is too scared to battle the brutal and nasty but, powerful far east Governments – Tis why we never war with China or Korea – History has proven to only attack the weak or call in everyone (USA / Australia / Britain) to fight in unison – Had we not have taken over these countries in yester year, would we have ever had such support? No! They (Western Governments) Are the only ones `all in it together`….. Rant over🙂

            • elohimette, glad you came back.

              Dulce et decorum est,
              Pro patria mori.

              • But not your continent.

                • Lol, far from `sweet` and further from `right`. – Everything about the word right suggests a wrong (Right Wing) for starters – Fighting for an Death for the country is really only an honour if stupid enough to believe it.
                  .

                • Sorry – Meant Death and Country dont know where the `an` death and country came from :0

            • This reminds me of when, on hearing ‘we’ would be gong to war over the Falklands, the immediate reaction expressed by my mum was one of fear – that should things somehow escalate into wider conflict, & were my brother to then have been only a very few years older, he could – quite likely – be called up, Not usually someoney given to wild flights of fancy (she had read the war poets and had in family someone who had been a conscientious objector though) – it was ‘just’ a very instinctive, first reaction to the idea of ‘us’ being committed to enter into the scenario of war. She must have looked at her (with apologies … – then) spotty teenager and heard Wildred Owen’s words/placed alongside images of the earlier ‘great’ conflicts/the gravestones, the muddy fields & etc – …

              There’s a 10,000 Maniacs song – ‘Latin One’ (sung by Natalie Merchant) that borrows many of the lyrics from Wilfred Owen’s poem – I heard it before having ever having heard his poem but the effect is very similar.

              • If the call up papers came thru my door, I would use em as toilet paper.
                No invader could treat the people of this country or run it any worse than
                the last few parliaments. Whats to protect? They’ve given it all away.

          • I have always found that up to a certain level, hard work gets results. BUT. 5% of rich people got lucky, and the rest are dishonest. Every smiling smarmey one of em has either skimmed money off their biz,
            fleeced employees, lied, cheated or worse. To get rich, you have to disgard the social rule book. All that ‘you’ve gotta do this, you’ve gotta do that’ you were told when young, its what the rich folk say to their employees. Thats why M.P.’S all fiddled expenses. And, they were so inept they passed legislation that would find em all out without even realising it. An m.p’s salary and perks are worth about 150k a year. FOR WHAT? Flapping a jaw? They all maintain they are hard working but it isnt even work. Snoozing off boozy free lunches and stopping off at Miss Whiplash’s place on the way home. Work my arse. But they will tell you to shovel like a maniac for minimum wage and drop dead before you retire. Jobs that have no normal hrs, (like acting or jobbing bricklayer)
            all used to pay better, but now manual work that is seasonal or temp is classed as a ‘job’. Minimum wage has to suffice without any regularity or run of work.The agencies clean up, the biz has no responsibilities & the employee is the loser.The only advice I would give anybody now, is get a skill if you can, and secure a new job every year. Go to your boss and ask for a rise. If he says no, leave. Even if it is for the same money. Watch the guv fall off the chair.If he cant afford a rise after 12 months. work for someone who can. Its the only way you will get whats yours;
            hold the git to ransom. You bet your underpants he is bleating with his suppliers and trotting out inflation to his customers.

            • Agree, it’s not all about hard work there are so many other factors that come into play – from day one.

              Many people now are more or less openly in agreement that there’s not only no longer such a thing as a job for life – there are very few jobs lasting for more than one year at a time & it is very much the norm to reapply after one year etc. thanks for the comment about asking for a pay rise – it’s interesting – (some) people might be so preoccupied with clinging onto the sa(i)d job that this might be sidelined – or they might feel “not been here long enough/still on shifting sand” & it could end up almost never happening in between shifting from one contract to the next (where there isn’t any continuity).

              • If the Employer’s attitude is that they owe you no loyalty,you owe them nothing and must assume that remuneration will not be increased after a year. Thus, always find another position before you say anything. Even if it is for the same money. Negotiate a start with better money after three months, than what you have now. If your boss wont give you a rise at the one year mark, they never will, untill re-forced to pay the going rate when taking on a replacement. I have walked into an office and been asked ‘what do you want?’ At 10.00 a.m. on a Monday morning and when I asked for my P45 Blood drained from a face and I was begged to stay until a replacement could be found. I stayed until the first one started, but they went through a lot of blaggers before finally paying somebody else what I was now getting. It’s the only way to deal with it.

      • My point still stands. The lift at oakwood station necessitated £4 million redevelopment works,taking months and requiring a bridge being built.
        The people using it are so rare it would be cheaper to have a red telephone linked strait to a private helicopter service, with TFL picking up the tab.

  13. I dont mean any disrespect to the disabled with my previous comment, by the way. There should be free easy available alternatives to disabled people when it comes to awkward places like deep tube lines without
    existing lifts, or the station staff available to help them up and down.
    Tube ticket offices are undermanned as it is.
    The idiots who planned out the ticket machines installed too many that only take bank cards, and not enough that take notes. The result is endless queues.Thick People using cards dont even use the machines without a big screen. If stations are unmanned and some herbert pushes all the stop buttons on the escalators it would be an hour before anybody restarted em. Crime will go through the roof. Kids will jam up the machines return slots so they can steal the change like they did phone boxes. It will be like the bronx in the 70’s.
    The problem with L.U. finances isnt the labour force, its the useless pratts in charge wasting all the money.

  14. And there are rows of ticket machines that only cough out paper tickets?
    Even tourists avoid them. USELESS!!!!!

  15. HAVING JUST READ TOM PRIDES BLOGG, WORDS FAIL ME…………..

    THE DEPTH OF DEPRAVITY THAT THE DWP WILL GO, SEEMINGLY HAVE NO BOUNDARY………………

    A LADY WHO HAS A RARE FORM OF BONE CANCER HAS BEEN REFUSED ESA ALLOWANCE BECAUSE THE DWP HAVE ADJUDICATED THAT SHE CONTRIBUTED TO IT.

    MAYBE ITS THE PRODUCT OF BEING INSTRUCTED TO GOOGLE THE EFFECTS OF AN ILLNESS, RATHER THAN ASK AN ATOS HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL, AS RELEASED IN A MEMO TO INTERNAL DWP STAFF ON 7TH NOV 2013……………………

    26 November 2013

    Dear DWP CAXTON HOUSE EXTERNAL Communications,

    Thank you for your reply to FoI request reference 5501.

    The communication to members of your staff I am seeking is
    referenced to in this link:

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/civ…

    You can see it is clear on the date of 7th November and The Mirror
    does not show the title, referencing it only as DWP staff bulletin.

    I trust from this information supplied you are now able to progress
    the request.

    Yours sincerely,

    Nigel Dale

    ………………………………………………………………………………………………………

    EXTREMELY STRANGE HOW THE DWP ARE DOING ALL THEY CAN NOT TO FULFILL THIS FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST.

    WHY WOULD THE DWP TRY TO DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM THIS RENEGADE COMPANY, ATOS, AFTER SINGING THEIR PRAISES FOR SO LONG?

    COULD IT BE THAT THE MEDICAL REPORTS THEY CONDUCTED WERE FLAWED?

    COULD IT BE THAT THE SO CALLED HEALTH PROFESSIONALS ONLY HAD A CERTIFICATE THAT WAS RECOGNISED ONLY BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND NO REAL MEDICAL ORGANISATION.?…………….

    OR COULD IT BE THE EMBARRASSING AMOUNT OF DEATHS AS A RESULT OF HEINOUS WELFARE CUTS TO THE DISABLED AND POOR THAT ARE BEING WITHHELD BY THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA?

    MAKE YOUR OWN MINDS UP.

    POLITICS KILL, AND THE TWISTED POLITICS OF THIS GOVERNMENT, GO UNCHALLENGED………….

  16. A ‘MEMBER.’ of the house walks into a duty free tax payer subsidised
    bar in the palace of westminster, with a scruffy parrot on his shoulder. The bar person says;
    ‘Oh dear. We cant serve you whilst accompanied by that flea bitten bag of puss SIr. May I enquire where you found it?’
    Parrrot;'(Squwarrrkk!) On the green benches!
    THERES HUNDREDS OF THE CUNTS! ‘ !

    • IN AN EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT HOW CORRUPT THE DWP HAVE BECOME IN THE HIRING OF A RENEGADE COMPANY, ATOS, I WILL QUOTE THE FOLLOWING TWO STATEMENTS.

      BOTH ARE BY HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS HIRED BY THE DWP…………..

      05 JUNE 2007.
      JULIE SIMPSON, HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL.

      PROGNOSIS;
      I ADVISE THAT THERE IS UNLIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE PRESENT MEDICAL CONDITION OR THE FUNCTIONAL EFFECTS IN THE LONGER TERM.

      JUSTIFICATION OF ADVICE;
      THE INFORMATION ON FILE INDICATES NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGE SINCE THE LAST EXAM.
      THE CLIENTS LEVEL OF DISABILITY IS UNLIKELY TO VARY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE FORSEEABLE FUTURE.
      ………………………………………………………………………………

      10 JULY 2012.
      EMMA BRODRICK. ATOS HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONAL.

      ZERO POINTS AWARDED.

      FUNCTIONAL PROBLEMS.
      I ADVISE THAT A RETURN TO WORK COULD BE CONSIDERED WITHIN 3 MONTHS.
      ………………………………………………………………………………

      …………..and just to show the hippocracy of the DWP once again………..
      06 November 03.
      Dr. j. Rickinson.

      Condition is unlikely to improve.

      12 September 95.
      Dr. R. Colman.

      No significant change anticipated.

      19 September 95.
      Mr, A. Heaten.
      Adjudication officer.
      Incapable of all work.

      ………………………………………………………………………………

      Everybody has a right to require the DWP to furnish them with all the information that they hold.

      I would not have the records above, to fight my case, had i not requested them……………

      THREE ENVELOPES ARRIVED, THE FILES THEY HELD ON ME WERE OVER 7 INCHES DEEP.

      WHY DON’T YOU REQUEST YOURS TODAY?
      “ALWAYS SEND THE REQUEST IN WRITING, RECORDED, AS THEY WILL INSIST THEY NEVER RECEIVED IT OTHERWISE…….
      Reply

  17. ………..extract taken from staff bulletin to DWP internal departments on 7th Nov 2013, as highlighted in Daily Mirror;

    evidence to be obtained before a decision can be made on balance of probabilities.
    12. In exceptional circumstances, should all sources of evidence be exhausted and it is still not
    possible to reach a decision on balance of probabilities, the designated person may seek
    advice from ATOS using the DBD 385 via the medical evidence wizard.
    ………………………………………………………………………………

    …………..they are saying, the use of ATOS material in making a decision on a disabled persons claim, must only be used if every other avenue has been thoroughly exhausted…………….

    A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ATOS WERE HERALDED BY THE DWP AS THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS OF THE HEALTHCARE WORLD.

    TODAY THEY ARE NOT EVEN ON THE BACK BURNER……

    NAMED AND SHAMED AS THE CHARLATANS THAT THEY REALLY ARE,
    “THE PRODUCT OF A STATE ENLISTED, DISABILITY DENIAL MACHINE THAT HOLD NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER, A SHAM IN EVERY RESPECT”

    …………a ruthless organisation that has brought about deaths in our community, sponsored by the DWP in collusion with another government department, Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunal Service,

    “A FINELY HONED, WELFARE AND DISABILITY KILLING MACHINE”

    • I WOULD ASK ANYONE ON THIS BLOG, WHO HAS UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE WAY THE GOVERNMENT TREAT OUR POOREST AND DISABLED, TO GO ON THE 38 DEGREES SITE, TYPE IN SAMUEL MILLER AND SIGN THE PETITION……………………

      IT MUST BE IRKING THEM AS THEY KEEP REMOVING REFERENCES FROM THE INTERNET SITES…………..

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