Iain Duncan Smith’s plans to force claimants to spend 35 hours a week endlessly applying for unsuitable jobs via the DWP’s shoddy jobsearch website have suffered another humiliating blow.
Universal Automation, which was recently released as a trial version, has now been launched in google’s Chrome store and is free to download. The app automatically applies for jobs on Universal Jobmatch, the Jobcentre website that claimants are often forced to use as a condition of claiming benefits*.
According to the developers the latest version has several new features:
- You can now set all Universal Jobmatch search parameters in the extension options. We added distance, posting date and job type.
- The extension will apply for jobs on all pages of search results, not just the first one. To control that, you can set the maximum number of jobs the extension will apply for in a single session.
- When the extension finishes applying, you can see a report with all jobs that were applied for.
- There is a new delay option. It can be used to slow down automated applications so that the extension behaves more like a human using Universal Jobmatch.
Universal Automation was recently featured on The Guardian website, where those behind the app explained that the project was about more than just making life easier for unemployed people and winding up Iain Duncan Smith, but also aimed to highlight the drudgery of much of the work we do:
“We need to look at structural issues, such as role of unemployment in capitalist economy in general and also the particular condition of British economy at the moment. Basically most of work we do is at best socially useless and at worst actively harmful. Constant banging on about strivers, hard-working families, the squeezed middle and so on is only meant to obscure that,”
Whilst the app has designed to appear as ‘human’ as possible, obviously claimants should us this at their own risk. As ever @refuted has good advice on twitter: “Would suggest anyone mandated to use #Jobmatch should create alternative account for experimenting with”.
To report any bugs or suggest improvements Universal Automation can be contacted via their website or @UniversalAutoma. You can download the app at the link below in the time it takes to put the kettle on. As the collective behind the app say themselves ‘Workers of the world … relax’.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/universal-automation/apfiloagjkhkilmdhlhppcnfpldmceke
The collective are blogging on tumblr at: http://universalautomation.tumblr.com/
* Whilst registration on the Unversal Jobmatch website can be compelled, there is currently no requirement to tick the box allowing the DWP to snoop on your jobsearch (you can also untick the box which asks if they can send you emails). You should be under no obligation to use the website anywhere but Jobcentres and there is really no need to tell the DWP if you have a home computer.
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Can’t somebody design an app to remove Smith and this fucking government from our midst?
I don’t know about apps – but you could try learning knot tying, hangman’s noose isn’t actually all that tricky. Or you could tie up a tory instead. There is a form of specialised Japanese bondage that combines knot tying with string-figures (on the person being tied). If that’s too elaborate/or too sexy (!), then learn to tie knots that a tory can’t get out of. Then add railway line, car crusher, top of high building, whatever creative embellishments you want. Or you could make a monkey’s paw/monkey’s fist (a type of knot), and use it as a sort of mace to whack a tory in the face.
Boris Johnson said he wants more done for people with IQ’s of 130 and above. Really, Boris? I think you’ll find, most of them are (thanks to government policies) stuck on Workfare at Poundland. And cleaning for much thicker people (academics) whose mummies and daddies paid for their postgraduate degrees. [Description of the film ‘Good Will Hunting’: says of a man in a university: “he has the brightest mind in the university, unfortunately he’s a penniless janitor.”] And picking up litter. And holding stop-signs at roadworks (poorly paid worker or unpaid workfare slave). And signing on the dole. And on disability benefits. And wiping elderly people in hospital/care. And having to hand out leaflets for crappy companies. And having their souls chipped away in McJobs. And on Work Programme. Or in jail for resisting the system.
Actually you’d have to be pretty thick and with low self esteem to actually enjoy workfare or work programme, community placement or a McJob. They are aimed at destroying your self esteem and individuality.
Psychology and psychiatry differentiate normal from abnormal. A normal person would be depressed by bad things happening to them. If you were happy about it, that would make you abnormal. So depression caused by HM Government, and everything stemming from government, is a natural healthy reaction to noxious stimuli (=IDS), called Reactive Depression – this form of depression is non-pathological. So it is NOT a mental illness.
On the other hand, if you are an ordinary/poor person (it’s logical for the rich to vote in their own interests though), it looks highly pathological to vote for or support the Tories. It looks more like a mental illness to vote for the right, from the Tories to the BNP and UKIP, Taxpayers Alliance, and so on. Actually the BNP, UKIP and their type could have a point about repatriation. They (Griffin, Farage, Tommy Ro*BIN*son) should be DNA tested to prove their right to live here; and we could select the body part representing the percentage of their African DNA, for a start, for immediate severing and Fed-Exing to Africa. If you’re the whitest, straightest, most ablebodied Sun reader and beer drinker, a really macho big guy (with a big cock) and your own girlfriend/wife… then the tories look like your natural party. But how long before ‘they’ come for you? You stop being ablebodied, lose your job, lose your house, are lefthanded, have the wrong colour hair?
In the same speech, Boris (note that IQ is called ‘average’ at 100; 2% of people are 130 or above) was very rude about “people with IQs of less than 85”. Boris is one to talk, being unable to think his way out of a paper bag. He may know some Latin, but he has less ‘street smarts’ than a tourist covered in bling who walks round covered in cameras and with an open wallet, at night in a high-crime area. He would score very low on general knowledge, maturity, emotional intelligence, and most other measures of intelligence. Real people with anything from a mild learning difficulty (these do not necessarily impair INTELLIGENCE itself!), to a severe learning disability, are much more ‘normal’ (whatever that means!…) and rounded individuals than Boris, the Eton/Bullingdon toffs, and politicians in general. A lot of them are being kicked off DLA and ESA onto JSA, and shoved on work programme and workfare. Even when they have massive additional physical disabilities or serious mental/behavioural problems, substance abuse disorders, social phobia or generalised anxiety disorder.
Again in this speech, Boris said that inequality is an essential component of economic growth. Why doesn’t he go the whole hog-roast, and get himself a Plantation, sip iced gin in a mansion all day, and stick a bunch of black slaves to work the fields? (Cue Boris having wet dream about this, then waking up drunk at one of his silly private clubs for the richest and dimmest upper-class twits in the universe, and their invited guests. “BOY!”, he yells at a nearby black man. “Get me another Pimms, or I’ll whip you!” An aide comes over. “Um, Lord Mayor? It’s 2013, you’re pissed, we lost the colonies decades ago. And that’s the leader of Senegal!”)
In fact there are slugs that can outsmart Boris bloody Johnson. And many of them are dead ones.
People with a learning disability (etc.) are part of the disabled community, and should have the right to fight back against what the system is doing to us all (the poor etc.).
No rope? How about a joke?
How to confuse a tory and keep them in the same place.
Enter a toilet cubicle they’ll use, and on both walls write:
FOR RULES OF TOILET TENNIS, PLEASE SEE OPPOSITE WALL.
Tick box syndrome .Atos tick box us
Sentencing us to death
DWP tick box us to monitor us.
Tick boxing is the new sport ..
A tick box computer game whereby winning results in the
Annihalation of the planet
s/survived
what a great post. oppression is always the root cause of depression..imo it is also important to note, the destructive nature of cognitive dissonance theory and it’s roots in behaviourism…
IDS had his brain removed before being allowed to sanction people without reason…
Great stuff! Employers are probably going to get pi$$ed off at being bombarded with CVs. Perhaps Drunken Shite and his lackeys at the DWP will start to listen when complaints from employers come flooding in!
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The content of the reports are totally irrelevant and mostly overlooked at tribunals Steve.
Receipt of a negative report is all they ever set out to do and any transparency of the contract between ATOS and the DWP would prove this fact, this is why they seek to protect it’s content at any cost……………
Personal tragedy, destitution and homelessness, undernourishment and death, were acceptable and cleverly overlooked by the decision not to have a real impact assessment done.
Disability denial is not a crime if backed by the government, it seems…………………….
…….but nobody has immunity from prosecution when the shit hits the fan….
Being part of a conspiracy to defraud, that results in death, firmly puts their fingers on the trigger……..
If that new app is available as a Mozilla Firefox addon I will certainly make use of it into my Firefox browser and fuck up any attempt of my JCP to try and make me do forced jobsearching.
Me too. I’m using Firefox on Ubuntu.
You can use Chrome on Ubuntu, just check out the repositories. The plugin would probably work in the un-Googlised version of Chrome called Chromium, also available for Ubuntu. I use Chrome on Linux Mint.
Thanks for that. I’ll look into it and get back to you.
Go to a command prompt and type:
sudo apt-get install chrome
Hit enter, input your root password and you’re done and dusted.
is Ubuntu a tropical drink? I have to ask this as being coerced and made to attend mandatory WP sessions has addled my brains, plus has also confused my rational thinking…
Only time will tell if I have indeed been brainwashed by the conspiracy being conducted all over the country by the clowns running the WP.
I’ve often wondered if Microsoft Windows are double glazed…
I do believe that there is an Ubuntu cola, but the word is from the Zulu language and means ‘humanity to others’. I’ve used the Ubuntu operating system for computers for over 5 years now. There is an amazing selection of software available from the Software Centre, most of it free.
I do wonder why our governments at all levels, as well as businesses still use Windows, as it is costing us taxpayers a hell of a lot in licence fees. I put in an FoI request to my local council asking what they paid Microsoft for a licence to use just Windows XP… in 2010-11 it amounted to £234,000. If they all migrated to using Linux that figure would be zero for licence fees, though to be fair there would be some costs involved as they’d need to retrain some support staff, but as many of the support staff who have to keep Windows based systems running all day actually go home at the end of the day to a proper computer operating system – Linux!
Doh, of course, what am I talking about? Of course they’re not going to adopt Linux… our governments are crap with computers and would far rather have the tax payer waste money on IT systems that can’t or don’t work.
Windows 8 was considered such a risk that the games developer Steam decided to port to Linux as a hedge… and has now developed the Steam OS based on Ubuntu which will run on the upcoming Steam games console.
One also wonders what Microsoft will want to charge us the tax payers for the dubious privilege of having Windows 8 on government computers?
Govt departments are still using windows XP. …which Microsoft are abandoning ..
Online services running under windows XP..
with a bit of luck then, when Microsoft end all Windows XP support and formally remove this obsolete operating system all the computers used in jobcentres (jobpoints, public access computers, job staff’s computers will no longer operate. Ha ha ha!
You are both correct JCP computers mostly run Windows XP, but some are still using Windows 2000, both systems now outdated unless you work at the DWP, for them it’s cutting edge – DOH!!!
If you check the Jobpoint machines upon start-up (if you’re in a Jobcentre as they are just opening) you will see they all use Windows 2000.
The jobpoints in my lame JCP is more modern than that for they use Windows XP to run them. Nice of my JCP to keep up with the latest computer technology and operating systems. To them, Windows XP is all the rage and new-fangled.
My own Windows 7 PC is much more faster than the jobpoints and the Windows 7 Professional computers that the desk monkeys use. Not that they even know how to operate a computer. I’m surprised they even know how to switch one on, let alone even manage to use it
The QWERTY keyboard can be a strange, confusing, unknown thing to the desk monkeys pretending to do any real work…
I had an on screen message window the last time I logged onto UJM. This Sender Has Been Deemed Unsafe. Images Have Been Blocked For Your Protection. By Continuing To Use This Site. Your Computer And Location Can Be Identified. Anyone else had this message [yet]. Looks like some servers are blocking UJM. I was in Cambridge at the time by the way
Support for XP ends next at the beginning of next April. Let the hacking begin!!!
To be fair to the DWP (never thought I’d say that…) XP is still an extremely popular system with many business and home users. Microsoft are desperate to get people off XP and using Windows 8 (or even 7), but many users are reluctant to give it up, even with next April’s deadline looming.
Agree, Windows XP is a mighty fine operating system – simply awesome! 🙂
* sent from my Windows XP machine… 🙂
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Job Centre staff at my centre FORCE us to tick the box by claiming you have too. And that’s not just my advisor. I know from their idiot site and ToS and the fact the button is unticked by default that you don’t have to let them see anything. However, try explaining that to them. I could do their job better. Its like they look at you as if you’re an ignorant pile of crap when you try to contradict them no matter whether you’re right or not, and they’re the ignorant one’s. I bet they know we’re right and are told to ‘enforce’ the lies to get quotas of sanctions. Then I think some Job Centre staff are better than others, more knowledgeable, still remembering what it was like to be hunting for work.
The next time you go in, give them this:
Click to access wdtk%205725.pdf
A steaming horse turd could do their job better
It already is..
It’s time that creep was removed but while he stays there hopefully it will ensure no more con dems at next election. Useless article. Glenda Jackson gave it big time ystdy. Snivelling creep squandered millions most working right at uc seems many worse off. Disgraceful waster.
Just noticed this;
8 December 2013
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
I hope this is the correct way of contacting you to ask my
question.
I have completed 12 months of my apprenticeship and I am still on
the same rate of pay of £3.60, despite being 22 years old. I have
tried asking the organisation I work for bout a pay rise, but
didn’t receive an answer.
Can you help with this?
Yours faithfully,
Stan King
Link to this
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/rate_of_modern_apprenticeship_pa#incoming-458136
An assessor is expected to see about 40 people per week, 65% of whom, the data shows, are expected to fail the assessment. The remainder will be split between the ESA support group (14.5%) and the work-related activities group (20.5%). Those who pass, in either group, are then further divided across five sub-groups, which specify whether an applicant should be expected to recover in six-24 months or “longer term” (in practice three years). Only 2.6% of WCAs are expected to result in a “longer-term” prognosis, which effectively means an assessor can allocate the prognosis to just one person a week; allocating a single extra person across a month hovers on breaching the allowed 20% variation. All other applicants, no matter their disability, are labelled as expected to have recovered within two years or less.
This suggests an explanation for some of the stranger Atos rulings, where people with lifelong or degenerative disabilities have been told their conditions are expected to improve in six months. Any assessor struggling to keep down their average for longer-term prognoses has to be tempted to assign a shorter prognosis instead. Someone with a long-term disability should theoretically face an assessment once every three years, but if they are consistently assigned to the six-months prognosis group, they will potentially face not one but six assessments in that period.
Similar problems exist for points awarded during the assessment. The “descriptors”, if matched, are worth six, nine or 15 points, and many disabled people will match multiple descriptors. It takes 15 points to qualify for the ESA, yet the report suggests national averages of 2.1 points for physical issues and 3.6 points for mental issues. The only way to maintain such low averages is by scoring several people at zero points for each one who passes. Are cases of people who score zero points when they clearly should pass simply evidence that the assessor saw too many seriously ill and disabled people that week? There is already an outcry over the state of the work capability assessment, with roughly one in six of all assessments successfully appealed against, at a cost to the Tribunals Service, and the taxpayer, of more than £75m per year. If that failure rate is not caused by poor quality work at the healthcare professional level but is a consequence of the Atos management system, which in turn is driven by the contractual requirements placed on it by DWP, then shouldn’t that outcry be louder still?
whats happing with these assessments i know they’ve been ruled illegal for the second time.
They should call it the ‘Fuck Off And Die’ assessment or the ‘We Can’t Believe You Aren’t Dead Yet’.
I noticed that in the government policy on welfare reform, it said assessments would be designed to focus on what you can do rather than on the condition you have to supposedly help you back into work meaning if your suffering a terminal illness but can lift a box then you could stack a shelf in their eyes so your deemed fit for work.
When I went to sign on yesterday at a job centre on Teesside, I was told by a DWP advisor that Thornaby job centre plus near Stockton-On-Tees have completely done away with the jobsearch booklet and have forced claimants to put their jobsearch activities on UJM only, this person also said that all job centres will be adopting this shortly and it will soon be mandatory to let them look at your jobsearch and personal details on this site.
Surely that can’t be right. I said that even if Duncan Smith personally directed me, I still wouldn’t do it. There must be some sort of legal challenge in this, they are going too far!!!!
JB Boro
If it is the case then they will issue you with a jobseeker direction. They probably won’t because what they say has no legal basis and is probably untrue I’d be inclined to think.
I have found there’s an awful lot of bluff as well as ignorance of the rules amongst Jobcentre staff.
The first step would be that they’d need to provide internet access – they have no right to demand what sites you visit on your own computer. Secondly, competition laws regarding which “commercial” business sites you use would I’m sure make that illegal.
The beauty of the Jobseeker direction is that it has to be “valid”..it can be challenged legally after all. The hearsay comments are worthless and should be ignored.
Ask them to put that in writing and sign it before you would consider doing it. Or take a tape recorder with you and tape what they say to you after letting them know that you’ve been advised to do so.
They’re lying!
European law states that nobody can track you on line like that without your permission.
Each time they have asked me I have refused and said that I will not give them access to my account until it becomes written law. They are fine with that at the moment and to be fair, I don’t get much hassle from them as unfortunately it tends to be the youngsters who they bully the most.
However, what is concerning me is that this other job centre has purposely done away with the written job search booklet and is at the moment refusing to accept written evidence of job search and stating that all claimants have to allow them access to their account. It seems to me that some of these job centres are doing things sneakily by the back door and soon others will follow suit.
As far as I know claimants can present their jobsearch record in any way they fancy, written or print-outs from Universal Jobmatch or whatever. I hand mine in written neatly in handwriting. Perhaps somebody can correct me if I’m wrong.
That is exactly the way the way I have been doing things, however, it seems that because many are now refusing to allow them access to snoop so job centre managers are sneakily inventing new ways to obey Duncan Smith and his warped agenda.
I don’t really see how they can refuse to accept a written jobsearch, particularly if you include some printouts of email responses and online applications. If you apply by snail mail the only evidence you can supply is in written form anyway. Does anybody actually log their jobseeking efforts on Universal Jobmatch as notes anyway? What a load of ka-ka.
I do jobsearch on the CV Library website then print out the list of Applications I’ve made as evidence. The Jobcentre are quite happy with that and I even overheard the Adviser giving someone a Jobseekers Directive to create a CV Library profile and telling him to use it as I do for supplying the required evidence.
http://www.cv-library.co.uk/
They “may”. The onus is on them (us) to satisfy the sanction-person that however we opt to present evidence is “reasonable” (to both sides), seems to be the way they choose to interpret the wording of the relevant sentence./section of the rule-book as it’s currently written …
As JB Boro says, above – what’s been quite ok suddenly becomes ‘unacceptable’ or called into question. I’m sure this happens very often but it’s being used as a tactic where people either haven’t allowed access/or have been able to agree to not use UJ (or there’s an ‘r’ in the month). One way is by ‘explaining’ the ‘You Must’ element by taking the words which define what JCP’s can/can’t do and twisting them round (changing the emphasis) to slightly alter the meaning. At the same time using veiled threats of handing down a ‘direction’. Because they do this with such great certainty (& menace) it’s easy to think ‘are they right & I’m wrong?’ & under pressure/fear of sanction, agree to what they say.
Coming soon to a JCP near you – chinese water torture.
When they say “We no longer have the job log books (for eg)”. it may well be quite literally true. But what they should be telling people is: “If you still prefer to write it down then do so – on your own version/piece of paper, notebook or whatever – you’re allowed to” – but they won’t say this – claimant’s have to raise it first. Then they shift tack (perhaps saying “You seem a bit aggressive today” or “Don’t you want us to help you find work?” “You want to find work don’t you?”) – all of which aren’t genuine queries about the job search situation, just different ways to try to get people to capitulate or (ideally) to relieve their own mounting tension through use of bully-boy tactics – if not hand out a sanction.
For over a year now, it’s been drilled into the sanction officers/jcp staff that they need to get Everyone Signed Up to UJ & then they need to aim to get Everyone To Tick The Box Allowing Access. At this point they’re becoming desperate & as JB says, using (more & different) dirty tricks to Make It Happen or Make Someone else pay when they can’t manage to. It’s frustrating for them & they need to hit their targets (us). Also the WP are tellling (some) people something similar – “It’s only acceptable for you to jobsearch in X way & to allow access” …
This is why it’s important to ‘Be Prepared’ & to keep reading this site/following Freedom of Information requests & sharing information (as knowledge is power) & it’s sink or swim/dog eat dog whenever anyone takes a step inside their friendly (!) neighbourhood JCP any time they have to. Who’d have thought it? I take the point that someone else has made about them bullying younger people more gleefully/successfully but it’s not confined to any one group & if they see a window of opportunity to sanction/pressurise people over UJ & etc. it seems to also be ‘open season’ …
You are allowed to present your evidence in any way you see fit. Thus it could be written on a sheet of paper or even read from a list. I have been tempted to give them an old style floppy disk (which I could write on my very old PC) and see if they can find a suitable disc drive with which to open it.
Or how about writing it on the side of a pig
http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,5753,-20434,00.html
Job searches must be carried out using UJM it MUST be used it MUST be used otherwise IDS will look like a fool. Loyalty to IDS is more important than anything else.
You have been told minion so get on with it.
They cannot refuse written evidence of a job search. Who gave them the divine right to declare how you provide your evidence so long as you are providing your evidence – this government has no mandate to harass the unemployed to death.
You are forgetting the daily mail mandate..where
It states ” we will continue to lie and distort and promote the view that everyone on benefits is a scrounging theiving lower class person and to prove that they are not will have to offer their labour completely free . whilst this is an improvement they are still common people because they are not royalty which we love so will continue to depict working class people as scum “
What a pile of steaming bureaucratic shite it’s all become, it reflects the mentality of IDS. The amount of tax payers money this poor excuse for a man has wasted is laughable when all this is supposedly meant to be saving money… for all the wrong reasons and methods. It’s shows his lack of intelligence to understand how to deal with welfare so those who are entitled get it and those who are certainly not entitled to it are refused or caught under a fair and properly organized series of measures that would and should kick workfare into touch. Was under the impression nobody wants to touch the site… thought it was riddled to bits by script kiddies and viruses. It would make no difference if it was based on some hosting server in Russia, India or even China.
Four weeks ago any references of jobs applied for were the requirement as part of a written record (which is fine) – this week that’s no longer enough & “We Must Have Printouts. Get us the printouts!”
Of course, this is not because they don’t believe what’s being put in front of them … it’s just not “proof” (or evidence enough). Officially, these could then be just glanced at &, almost as quickly as if looking at a UJ record/account, they can be ticked ‘as seen’ & signing could happen quickly, smoothly and without any debating of terms … allegedly.
But only until the week arrives where printouts/other documentation were somehow not available to bring – for whatever (logistical) reason …. then it [could just as easily] be sanction-city.
I don’t want to give them what they are currently insisting on/attempting to force & possibly wanting to write into an agreement but its not for the reasons they think (give me strength).
If everyone folds to their threats we will soon end up in a dictatorship. I for one will not be intimidated and stand my ground. For this reason alone, I find they do not stand on my toes!
I too have had no real problems. Though I have spoken to a lot of young people who have had lots of hassle, though fortunately they seem to know their rights under the system. My Workfare advisor did try to convince me that I’d get sanctioned when I refused to fill in and sign the initial forms, but that came to nothing… and once I sent in the withdrawal of consent to share my personal information, (by recorded delivery, of course) I got even less hassle, and everything has been sweet since then. I attend my monthly meetings and they last approximately ten minutes and that’s it for another month. On my last visit my advisor actually admitted that Workfare could offer me nothing I couldn’t (and am) do for myself.
I’m still not signed up to UJM. My JSA advisor tried to gently persuade me to sign up, but gave up doing that, and hasn’t hassled me about it since early December last year. However, something strange is happening with JobFit Interserve, as evidently they are putting all the ‘clients’ on their books through the sign up process again in the new year – they’ve already piloted it in Caerphilly. I don’t know details, so if anyone has any information about it, whether it’s happening in all the areas where JobFit Inteserve have the contract for Workfare, or is it just in Wales? It’d be nice to have just enough info so that at least an attempt could be made to mess the process up 🙂
Especially in your own home. Oh wait the NSA says its ok to let govt agencies to monitor you.
Did anyone read the article where NSA was using online gaming to monitor people ?
They can now track you if you live in france.
French officials can monitor internet users in real time under new law.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/11/french-officials-internet-users-real-time-law
So much for European Law!
jb boro
check this grassroots site…it still says no!…
http://www.edinburghagainstpoverty.org.uk/node/105
Their own rule book states –
We cannot specify to a JSA claimant how they provide us with records of their jobsearch activity and Universal Jobmatch will not change this.
So they’re either totally ignorant of the rules of the system they’re administring, or they’re lying.
If it was me, I think I’d write
(a) A letter to the JC manager, saying that you’ve heard this from his staff and could he please confirm it in writing.
(b) My MP, asking them to follow it up for me.
(c) Local press.
I also keep getting asked about Universal Jobmatch and looking at my account even though their own guidance states they should not keep asking the claimant after he/she has declared that he/she has denied access. They shall never get access to my account unless the law changes and then they will have to provide facilities. I won’t be using my own computer.
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This is highly ironic. Automation and the use of computers has been used to force people out of work as their jobs have been mechanised. Now IT is also being used to help them apply for jobs on Universal Jobmatch. This will no doubt be to the ire of IDS and his squadristi, who demand that every job seeker should spend five hours a day looking for work. It’s also significant that IDS and the Coalition have passed legislation forcing job-seekers to use Universal Jobmatch. Thatcher was adamant that free competition meant choice, but that principle obviously goes out the window when people, if left to choose, would not patronise such a highly flawed government system like UJ. So, legislation is imposed in order to make this piece of government policy appear to be a success. It’s all par for the course for this thuggish and dictatorial government. This new app, however, offers to shift the balance of power a little in this regard to the job-seeker, if only just a little bit.
There is a comic novel in there somewhere. Can’t think of his name but someone wrote a first novel (prize-winning) a few years ago based around van drivers at a depot, what they were expected/required to do daily to fulfil their employer’s wishes & the levels of bureaucratic custard they had to wade through. Story revolved around what they did in reality in order not to waste pointless hours of their day but still get the work done. The ‘madness’ inherent in the rules etc. Magnus … (apologies) ? Mills.
Satirical/black humour more apt in the case of universal automatons.
(just to reiterate) coalition have OT passed legislation forcing job seekers to use Universal JobSnatch. They’ve made it so that they can present it as JCP’s ‘default’ & preferred means while selling it’s (alleged) good points aggressively & ‘persuading/cajoling (pressurising)’ as many as they can to use it. The situation is still that it’s been engineered so that claimants have to be able to demonstrate/give reasons why they might not want to use it and is preferring to use other alternative ways to look for work – & it’s up to JCP ‘advisers’ to accept those reasons or keep pushing.
Of course, the reasons given have to be valid (within the rules) & can’t be the whole truth (it’s a sanction machine; full of dodgy jobs) etc. They have to be around how the person prefers/can most successfully jobsearch & this can lead to lots of use of semantics/arguing/threats and general nit-picking – so in some cases it could be ‘easier’ to sign up & even use but not a blanket ruling to now.
That’s: “have NOT (not have OT) passed legislation forcing …”
There’s a lot of people revolting against this “revolting” lot in government.
Remember the poll tax? I can foresee see this lot following suit. Individuals maybe powerless yet the masses are all powerful!
Yeah and just wait ’til next Summer when thousands of disgruntled young people are mandated to do compulsory full-time shite for fuck-all money. It will kick-off I’m sure.
The Poll Tax didn’t disappear, it just got modified a little and had a name change to Council Tax. Not a lot of difference, it’s still regressive and unaffordable to those on a low income, and indeed is relatively higher for smaller houses than big. And now that the unemployed are liable to pay an element of Council Tax it’s come full circle.
The big demonstrations failed because they were led mainly by the Trots, who declared victory prematurely and accepted something that was still too much like the Poll Tax.
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I won’t be using UA. I don’t want to have a machine apply in my name to companies I disagree with/.Or risk having one of them suddenly offer a job or interview (sanctioned if turn it down/don’t attend/mess it up). Also don’t want randoms getting my personal details! Could even be enemies or other people who know you!
Agree, something survived… think it works better for a bogus account just to clog the works up… 🙂 Even better if you hide your arse just to be on the safe side… 🙂
now don’t take this as gospel, it needs some checking, but it’s something to bear in mind…
In order to register for UJ you must first open a Government Gateway account. Apparently you CAN NOT be mandated to open a Government Gateway account.
So they can mandate you open a UJ account, but not the GG account they you need to open a UJ account !
It seems a neat little catch-22 situation, if correct. Has it been tried before ?
I have an advisor meeting next week and, having still not signed up for UJ, I’ll be bringing this point to his attention and asking for a written confirmation or rebuttal.
Another thought – what if someone was to open a fake UJ account, replace their CV with a statement regarding UJ and what they think of it and its instigators, then use UA to send it to as many companies as possible ?
Of course I wouldn’t do anything like that myself, nor would anyone here I’m sure, but just hypothetically – is that possibe ? (I’ve no UJ account so far, so not sure of the details).
This is just ireponsible….
a reverse spam..
I like it…
Me too… 😀
December 10, 2013 at 8:52 pm
From: Mr Taylor
14 July 2013
Dear Her Majesty’s Courts and the Tribunals Service,
Please supply information on the number of appeals made to
Tribunal, to both the First Tier and the Upper Tier, challenging
Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) decisions by the DWP in
which the death of the appellant has occurred prior to the appeal
decision. Also if you have the information please indicate how many
of these appeals involved the Work Capability Assessment (WCA). In
both instances for the time scale of 12 months prior to the date of
this FOI request.
Yours faithfully,
Mr Taylor
……………………………………………………………………………..
Unfortunately, to confirm if the department holds the information you have requested would exceed the cost limits under the legislation.
The law allows us to decline to answer requests under the Freedom of Information Act when we estimate that it would cost us more than £600 to confirm that the department holds the information requested. You may be interested to know that the limit is equivalent to 3.5 working days’ worth of work, calculated at £25 per hour.
In this instance to determine if all of the information requested is held we would be required to manually check each appeal file for the Upper Tier to determine whether the appellant had become deceased prior to the appeal decision which equates to £7,275 and exceeds the cost limit of £600.
We estimate that it takes 4 minutes per file to manually check an appeal file for information retained. Therefore we estimate that 15 files can be checked within 1 hour. The Upper Tier received 4,369 appeals in the last quarter of 2012/2013.
Using the above information we have calculated the cost by:
4,369 (case load) divided by 15 (files per hour) equals 291 hours, times by £25 (per hour) equates to £7,275.
You can find out more about section 12(2) by reading the extract from the Act and some guidance points we consider when applying this exemption, attached at the end of this letter.
You can also find more information by reading the full text of the Act, available at http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2000/36/section/12 and further guidance at http://www.justice.gov.uk/information-access-rights/foi-guidance-for-practitioners/exemptions-guidance
Although we cannot answer your request at the moment, if you refine it so that we can deal with it under the cost limit, then we will take it forward. You may wish to consider, for example, reducing the time period for which you requesting the statistics for.
In addition, I am pleased to be able to release to you, outside the scope of the Act and on a discretionary basis, the statistics for the First Tier that we have readily available. We hope you find this information below useful.
You have the right to appeal our decision if you think it is incorrect. Details can be found in the ‘How to Appeal’ section attached at the end of this letter.
@GEOFF. The £600 rule..is that what we are
Worth now ?
Our rights are valued at £600
If it exceeds that we are told to fuck off and mind our own business..
Bean counters at the helm of democracy ..
Do you know on the guardian CIF you could play spot the right wing cliche ..
Re NSA snooping ” if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear ”
Re welfare reform ” we cannot afford welfare and the NHS ”
Re tories ” clearing up the mess from labour ”
They have nothing to say except spouting out tired old cliches ..
The right are really decrepit funny lot who think anyone who
Opposes them has a beard a beard and runs around with a copy of Karl Marx handbook ie
a commie socialist
Or smashes windows anarchist
Or are thick and sponge off the state and run baby breeding factories on sink council estates
and that shameless is a documentary .
The Right are indeed a weird lot Bob. I’ve always wondered, in a world that has never had so much money floating around in it, why they can claim that a decent life for all is somehow unaffordable, and how the UK, one of the richest nation states on the planet is so skint that it has to try and save money by persecuting the poor and the disabled and the sick, and yet somehow finds the money to give politicians large pay rises, spend obscene amounts of money on departmental furniture, or waste money on IT schemes that don’t have a hope in hell of working.
I’m an anarchist, but I don’t go around smashing windows, and I often wear a three piece suit, (it is black, and I quite often get mistaken for an undertaker!) on which I always make sure I have a little black star – it makes for conversation. I do have a beard though, but it’s (usually) neatly trimmed. I am of course also a Marxist, but of the Groucho tendency.
If we took over and governed ourselves we’d not only do a much better job, but I’m sure we’d save money too, and that would be after we’d made sure that everyone had enough to support a decent lifestyle.
As far as Universal Automation goes, it’s still early days, and as time progresses it will no doubt be tweaked and refined, have bugs squashed etc until it behaves in a way that is indistinguishable from that of a human being. I’m going to give it a go, on a spoof account of course, which is perhaps the best way as it’s still new software, and I don’t want it coming back at me and biting me in a painful place. And using it on a spoof account will still result in effectively using UJM as a protest against this obnoxious regime.
THIS IS A MUST READ…
It blows the whole sordid affair out of the water Bob, makes you ashamed that this evil was ever perpetrated against the weakest………..
The cracks are appearing on this thin veneer of truth they tried to peddle. Watch the bastards run………………..
Yep @ geoff I hope so but you can see everything is being costed ..if its for us it costs too much. If it benefits the companies its not enough ..” More needs to be done ” ie more cash thrown at it courtesy of lobbying by corporates pimps in parliament
OT.
I came across this….
I know a lot of people are on the look out for stuff like this, its great if you are undergoing a WCA, its very cheap, I think the people over on the DWPExamination.org – Free Speech for the Disabled forum would like to know about it, I don’t have an account over there but if anyone has could they post it over there, thanks.
http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/car-key-fob-spy-video-camera-5-99-ebay-sold-discountedtoyou-1744606
“Monies stopped”
http://dwpexamination.org/forum/general-discussion/monies-stopped/#p117769
I easily applied for eight suitable vacancies in my travel to work area in under five minutes using the new Chrome App with info from my search criteria. Kind of makes the 35hr per week minimum jobsearching quota laughable doesn’t it.
I’d like to see the twats at the JCP try to sanction me for using the Chrome App. All it does is make jobsearching more accessable and wider ranging than before. And it helps to find and apply for suitable jobs I would have otherwise missed and later discovered another day have been removed from their (spyware) infested website.
I’m doing what is asked by jcp in using UJM and applying for jobs on there, so what is the problem for them? I’m using a method which will no doubt help me to find and apply for jobs faster and easier.
As for the tick boxes, I will never enable them and set myself up for an illegal sanction without any knowledge or not. the jcp advisor i sometimes have to see is a right stuck up cow who tries to trip everybody jobseeker up when they have to sign on with her.
I know about the UJM app available on Chrome, so I will be taking steps to make it a new ruling in my Department of mis-work and mis-pensions, that use of the chrome app will be an automatic 3 month sanction without and fucking appeal.
If you use the app, I wil take your fucking jsa away for as long as I feel like it. And stop fucking scrounging the state for jsa and esa when I don’t have the fucking money to give you. I need the money instead to pay for my 4 week christmas holiday to Barbados and try to have my wicked way with the native women there. They do say that when you turn to black, you’d never go back. All those dusky chocolately coloured birds have yet to experience a night with a posh upper-class honky.
Slosh back a jumbo G and T for me, old boy, and do to those darky females what you’ve been doing to benefit claimants in Blighty, without lubrication, for the last three and a half years!
Chin chin, old boy! I’ll shag a cappuccino coloured squaw or ten, by the back entrance, in your honour. God save the Queen!
First we have Universal Jobmatch, next we have Universal Credit. How long before we get Universal Healthcare or fear or all fears Universal surveillance from unknown or un-accountable numpties hiding behind CCTV cameras and hidden microphones and that these numpties report directly to the monsters running DWP?
If i get spammed with automated e-mail responses from companies via UJm or CV library as the employers are too fucking lazy and can’t even send out a response letter anymore or find it too much trouble and stressful to even pick up the telephone and call me back then it’s only fair and proper that I should send out automated job applications.
I’m only doing what the companies do, so don’t blame me IDS if I get things wrong on UJM. Blame the companies for failing to properly contact me without first resorting to hiding behind their computers and sending out automatic rejection emails.
Are the only punters who use Universal Jobmatch unemployed people mandated to do so by their local Jobcentre? With all of the jobsites available why on earth would anybody use Universal Jobmatch voluntarily?
Use the Chrome App and stuff the UJM website with automated spam applications. The employers will soon start complaining to the jobcentres after being inundated with unsuitable applications all in the name of a jobseeker having to fulfil their weekly jobsearch obligations.
there is a parliamentary debate re foodbanks..weds 18 dec…
When IDS went to give evidence before a committee last Monday, he was escorted to the meeting by armed policemen and bodyguards. Fucking hell! The loony is behaving like some dictator living in fear of assassination.
Perhaps he has somehow picked up on the fact that he’s not Mr Popularity.
Why does the loony need a police guard when giving evidence? If the police didn’t pander to the government as they seem to do nowadays, they would bow to the people instead and arrest the bald coot for giving false information whilst under oath.
Why did he need the muscle? Probably because he knew how his behaviour would be received. This is a man who is absolutely not going to accept criticism, in any form at all. He just gives it all out as a big man, but when it comes down to the crunch, in his own words ”I deny all responsibility for cocking up a government department of which I have absolutely had no on the job training as required by the job advert”
How the fuck did he even persuade his master David Cameron to be given free reign of the DWP in the first place? The fool is clearly incompetent and incapable of even making a cup of tea, let alone over-seeing millions of pounds simply pour down the drain.
They should have grilled the poncy twat over his lack of experience and skills that show up in piss-poor leadership and damaging mis-management, and forced him to resign his commission.
The oly job I can see that he may be able to hold down is a toilet cleaner’s job sweeping up the sick from the floor of a public loo, or preventing poofs from congregating in the cubicles for a midnight swinging party.
Cos IDS is a snivelling, coward,like all dictators, hence the minders & guns.
………for Gunnyeon (the Angel of Death), to openly admit that ATOS HCP’s, or any other for that matter, have no medical qualifications, is an understatement……………….
What he is really saying is,”Christ, we’ve been rumbled, what can we do to cover it up, the public are’nt as stupid as we first thought”
The DWP have always run away from questions regarding the HCP’s qualifications, here is an FOI that i sent them…….
Dear Mr Reynolds,
Freedom of Information Act – Request for Information
Our Reference: FoI 2207
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request which we received on 13 May 2013.
You asked:
Recently i asked which organisations recognised the ATOS HCP Qualifications, in your reply you
sent this: The Registered Nurse New Entrant Academy is recognised and has received
accreditation from the University of Derby. Please highlight all the organisations who recognise it,
apart from Derby University, who issued it in the first place? Please let me know if you need more
time to collate the list…………..
If you have any queries about this letter please contact me quoting the reference number above.
………………………………………………………….
Atos HCP is not a recognised qualification. It should be noted that health care professionals who
work for Atos are qualified and registered with their respective medical bodies.
Yours sincerely
Business Management Team
Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)
[email address]
…………………………………………………………
As you can see from their reply, they accept that the HCP carry no recognised qualifications, say no more…….
However, to further announce that he will be working to help them get some medical qualifications, is admitting that all prior tests are not worth the paper they are written on…….
Imagine getting an MOT certificate, only to be told later that the examiner was not really up to the job, unqualified!!
Then, to put you at ease, don’t worry, we will try to get the appropriate accredition……
To brand the whole Work Capability Assessment as a complete fiasco is an understatement.
What you are witnessing is a complete failure of reassessment by charlatan operatives that the Secretary of State saw fit to enable, to steal disability benefits………………..
The only qualifications that are worthy of any value are those that are recognised by our existing medical organisations.
It’s no good trying to fast track a qualification that carries no weight, you can’t make a tyre fitter into a piano tuner by creating a pie in the sky certification system, but this is just what the DWP will try to do.
Rather than admit defeat, headed by the most famous comedian, IDS, they will carry on blowing countless millions in their wake, as they have done in every thing they have tampered with……………
geoff
all form’s of WCA’s are degrading, and should be dumped…they treat us sick and disabled human being’s, as if we are lumps of meat ,the whole process is set up to drain us of energy and resources in continuously having to prove need…we have no quality life now, only endless draining form filling, and travelling, to plead for our benefit entitlements…they must be scrapped, we need our life saving vitals….
@GEOFF. From recollections of research the uni of derby was to do with fucking BUSINESS…
No more point in using Universal Jobmatch, it has become a distribution warehouse for other Jobsites. Might as well just go straight to C.V. Library or one of the others as their all 1000% better than the DWP’s own mongrel UJM, which fucks up all of the time.
99% of all jobs advertised on Universal shitematch are now lifted directly from all other job recruitment sites as employers are losing faith in actually using UJM as a sole means to advertise their vacancies.
is it a government plan (or conspiracy) to make USM force all other job websites out of existence by nicking their own job adverts and therefore all jobseekers being told to use USM only?
I’m pretty well sure that if all the other job websites refused to be kowtowed (against free business competition laws) into giving their own job adverts to USM (against, that the dodgy DWP website will cease to function and therefore be brought into question even by the faceless bean counter lackeys,( of which turned the other way when IDS flushed £40 million quid down the bog on his useless reforms).
Nearly every job I apply for on USM now takes me directly to a random job website where if I had an online account with them, I would have still applied for the job anyway regardless of using USM or not.
Fuck the DWP. I’ll do jobsearching my way, not how you fucking tell me to. My way is more constructive and productive and I will use the Chrome App whether the twats at the JCP like it or not. Besides, they cannot tell me on how to use my own computer nor which on websites to search for jobs on, either on my PC or not.
From now on, I’ll auto apply for jobs on my own PC as it is more faster, easier and more productive and when I next go to the bollcocks work programme I will simply fuck about on their computers looking at eBay or Amazon as I would have already done MY jobsearch prior and not later having to waste my valuable time in a work-house type environment.
* As for the WP, I told them a few months ago to fuck off by issuing them a Data Protection Act Section 10 letter formally ceasing their access to, and the storage of, both my CV and Email address as I was no longer happy they could exercise their unlawful rights over me.
Roll on next year when I will tell them in person to fuck off and get real proper jobs instead after I exit the mis-work programme.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/dec/11/call-inquiry-benefit-sanctions
Do not try to justify this guys motives, he has no direction whatsoever and is just toying with peoples lives.
He holds no credibility, even in the department he heads.
History is littered with this kind of dross in a position of power, in fact it reminded me of an incident that has come to light over the last two days.
Some soldiers, as an act of defiance against officers they regarded as muppets, decided to disobey a drill order and sat down as an act of defiance…………….
On a typically british bulldog act, the soldiers were subject to court martial and imprisonment and two dismissed.
Why was’nt there an investigation to find out if the soldiers had a point of issue in the capability of their seniors?
Old shithead Smith is in a similar position. His own staff are frightened to break rank and accuse him of being useless, the government lack the guts to admit he is useless, therefore the acts of the madman continue to “KILL” on an unprecedented scale, the likes of what this nation has never seen before!
Hitler was a complete nutter, but he too believed what he was doing was right…………
Behind his back there will be an air of rebellion, he won’t see it, but i am damn sure it is happening. His ministers are revolting, and i mean this in both senses!
Cameron will be starting to cringe as the brainless moron scrambles from one embarrassing situation to another.
He is in free flight, devoid of any direction, not knowing where to turn, like a dog lost in a lamppost factory……….
IDS will be the author of his own downfall. With Tory dissatisfaction looming and the knives appearing behind his back, it will only be a matter of time.
The generals are plotting and willing to put the bomb in a briefcase, at the foot of his table. When you are in a corner, you have nowhere to go……………
…………..his days are numbered, as are the deaths that his department are wholly responsible for, but constantly deny are happening.
“THE NOOSE OF TRUTH IS TIGHTENING”
How about we tighten the noose around Smithy’s neck? It’s all he is fucking good for…a public execution in the street. Only then will us harrassed jobseekers rejoice at his humiliating death
http://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2013/mar/27/unemployed-march-police-parliament
http://www.iainduncansmith.org.uk/content/universal-credit-0
Hello and welcome to spot the fucking lies competition courtesy of IDS own constituency website..
adult learning and career development
career development at work
employer engagement
enhancing employability
schools careers work
STEM careers
technology enhanced learning and career development
vocational learning
youth transitions and NEETs
@GEOFF re university of Derby mentioned in FOI request ATOS.
The university offers a variety of resources and facilities to its students, including computing laboratories, a spa (Buxton), two computer games development suites,*** a lifelike hospital teaching environment with robot patients,***
This is university of Derby.
The robot patients bit seems to fit Atod quite well….
The wise musings from the flabby mouthed bald coot Iain Duncan Smith as announced by him (dates shown of announcement) on the Government Propaganda website..
14th October 2013 “Universal credit will roll out very well and it will be on time and within budget.”
14th October 2014 “Universal credit will roll out very well and it will be on time and within budget.”
14th October 2015 “Universal credit will roll out very well and it will be on time and within budget.”
14th October 2016 “Universal credit will roll out very well and it will be on time and within budget.”
By 2016 the government will have been made bankrupt as each October announcement by him will be identical (to save taxpayers money…), but in reality each announcement of welfare spending reforms is another £40 million chucked down the toilet written off by his compliant department drones..
does you do doo
making work pay…slash benefits, jobs, and drive down wages…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25347403
also let’s write off some trifling amounts, ie energy to cheap to meter… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-25337942 nothing like sound economic management, no! it is nothing like it…
Don’t forget that the work programme actively encourages people to accept Zero-hour contracts under a false threat of JSA sanction for non-compliance. I was offered three seperate zero-hour contracts by my useless WP provider and basically messed them around each time.
how would I be able to pay my rent each week if I am not called in to work half of the time by my zero-hour contract happy employer?
Bollcocks to the WP. They are only obsessively interested in harvesting people’s CV’s and email addresses for their own gains and to boost their coffers if this information is passed on to the highest bidder (any employer keen to make a good impression with the provider. Any offer of employment they give should be viewed with suspicion as chances are it’ll be a zero hour contract only from the agency with close ties to the WP provider – this I know to be fact as my own fucktard provider has done this on me and later denied/ignored it.
And if you request information as to where you’ll be sent to carry out this type of work contract, they will refuse/ignore to tell you where the work is, wage structure, what type of work is involved, etc.
When I asked about one contract that the WP tried to off-load on me in where I would be working, I was met with a stony wall of deafening silence from my advisor.
So since then, if i get messed about by them, I simply return the favour and piss them around.
A copy of a FOI request to the DWP, reference zero hour contracts and sanctioning is available here…
Click to access FoI.3022.RESPONSE.pdf
Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants are not required to apply for zero hours contract vacancies and they will not face sanctions for turning down the offer of a zero hours contract
Print it out and wave it in their smug faces, the next time they try to push you into a zero hours non job.
I’ve come to the conclusion that being on JSA is akin to being dangled on the end of a worn out piece of string over the toilet bowl, and that when each illegal sanction is given out the string holding you up is in effect cut in half, thus dropping you feet first straight into the un-flushed bog.
When the forced sanction is ended, this is nothing more than being dredged from the toilet by the puppets controlling your life and that the string is repaired with a sticking plaster.
The more times your string is cut, the less chance it can be repaired and that your insistance for a new piece of string is refused as you can only be issued with just one piece of string, as all the other bits of string has previously been given to the scroungers who smoke dope all day long.
awp
yes, the whole benefits system is based on ritual humiliation….because the poor have failed to provide the watts to power the rich…those that “govern” can throw £billions away, and we are blamed for not replacing it fast enough…this economic “failure”, is blamed on the poor, we are being scapegoated for the greed and failures of others…reeves, on IT write off’s and depreciation, should have replied to ids “at least we get some bloody use out of a car, before it’s value is written off, which is more the we can say for your crazy IT systems” …..
Off topic but did anyone see a report on Reuters saying the next uk govt will probably want to reduce welfare spending futher bcoz if they don’t other services could b cut? Of course mps pay rises would still continue!
£40 million (flushed down the bog by the lame baldy bonce) came from the money saved through an excessive use of sanctions, brought in by the toffee-nosed tory twats when they came to power.
“And the number of homeless children in the United States overall recently set a new all-time record.”
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-11/new-york-city-has-most-homeless-children-great-depression
Over at unemployment movement they have the jobseekers diarys availible to download so if advisers give you any rubbish about not haveing them anymore just print of your own.
They cant force you to record your jobsearch activities exclusively on jsa besides say you was accessing UJ 3 times a day each time looking at the full forty pages of the recomended jobs thats 120 recomended job searches recorded and it gets mixed up with your own entries jsa advisors loose intrest after about 3 page clicks.
& otherwise just use piece(s) of paper & make your own (like being at school in a way – making sure our homework is done & handed in on time)
Thursday 12 December 2013.
Fucking Osborne’s at it again!
George Osborne announces fresh attack on welfare budget.
In challenge to Labour, chancellor tells MPs billions will need to be shaved from welfare to avoid deeper departmental cuts.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/12/george-osborne-fresh-attack-welfare-budget
sack fucking smithy and the welfare budget will only then maybe spared. He’s the one throwing money around in the wind like no tomorrow. No wonder the spending budget is falling apart.
http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/4425466/?ir=UK+Politics
Never mind folks there will always be people who will find work..according to a Tory MP…
Marvelous thing the Freedom of Information Act………….
It allows organisations to share information that is requested by anyone having an interest.
It ensures clarity and openness and fosters good relations.
Here is an example that was submitted to the DWP;
From: T.kay
27 November 2013
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
Please provide figures for the following with regards to the
bedroom tax.
How many have paid?
How many have moved?
How many have received full DHP?
How many have received part DHP?
How many have failed to pay?
How many have had eviction procedures started due to bedroom tax
arrears since 1st April 2013?
Yours faithfully,
Mr Kay
………………………………………………………………………………………………………
i) How many have paid?
This information is not available.
ii) How many have moved?
This information is not available
iii) How many have received full DHP?
This information is not available.
iv) How many have received part DHP?
This information is not available.
v) How many have failed to pay?
This information is not available.
vi) How many have had eviction procedures started due to bedroom tax arrears since 1 April 2013?
This information is not available.
Yours sincerely
DWP FOI Central Information Team.
“A FINELY HONED, STATE KILLING MACHINE THAT RECOGNISES NO BOUNDARIES IN THE DECIMATION OF THE MOST VULNERABLE”
AIDED AND ABETTED BY THE COWARDLY, YELLOW, FACELESS BASTARDS THAT PURPORT TO PROVIDE OUR WELFARE, THE DWP.
TO SAY YOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS, IS THE UNDERSTATEMENT OF THE DECADE…………..
THESE DEATHS ARE NO ACCIDENT, THEY ARE THE ACTIONS OF A DEPARTMENT OUT OF CONTROL, A RENEGADE ELEMENT WHO ARE AFRAID TO SPEAK OUT.
YOU HAVE NO MORALS WHATSOEVER BECAUSE YOU ARE DISTANCED FROM THE PAIN AND SUFFERING THAT YOU DISH OUT EVERY DAY…………
THAT BROWN ENVELOPE, THAT SANCTION, THE TOOLS OF A MURDERER.
LOWER THAN THE LOWEST, SUBHUMAN IN EVERY WAY….
YOU HAVE NO SHAME, ONLY DEPARTMENTAL TARGETS, WAKE UP TO THE HORRORS OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING TO FELLOW HUMAN BEINGS AND THEIR FAMILIES.
“it would haunt me for the rest of my life if my actions caused anothers death, i think i would take my own life in shame”
http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-25349236
Billions more to be cut from welfare budget..i am pretty sure georgie really enjoys his job doing this.
the welfare budget is being slashed so the MP’s can get their 11% pay rises straight from this money.
The DWP again robs the un-employed to give the money instead to their smug bosses.
Dear All,
I would strongly urge you all to look at refuted http://refuted.org.uk/
They have taken up where consent.me left off. They have two hot pages, which will be of interest to you all. They are:
Jobcentre Rights
http://refuted.org.uk/rights/
Universal Jobmatch
http://refuted.org.uk/jobmatch/
Another interesting link. Should be read by anyone who is currently with a DWP provider.
Tips to challenge DWP provider benefit sanctions referrals
http://refuted.org.uk/2013/12/13/providersanctions/
JJ Joop
welfare rights law and dwp guidance change frequently says refuted, I wonder why?
Well summed up Geoff.
Has anyone yet noticed that Baldy bonce’s eyes are far too close together and that like all career criminals he evades the truth. He also spins lies and delusions so much now he actually believes in his own futile words to be the gospel and anything else is written off as pure cobblers.
The slaphead fool is so far up his own arse with arrogancy he likes to waste vital police funds at his discretion by asking the old bill to escort him to a commitee. I can see why the police were being his lackeys that if he did not like the questions being asked he would have instructed them to arrest the commitee members for asking the ‘wrong’ sort of questions about his monumental cock-up of the nation’s finances….
Commitee Chairman ”Mr Smith, can you explain to us as to why £40 million has recently been written off by your fellow goons in her majesty’s Department of Mis-work and mis-pensions?’
IDS ”No madam, I cannot disclose the full facts leading up to the situation as to why and how I fiddled the monetary resources in creating a overhaul of the welfare programme.”
CC ”I understand that some information has been leaked to us by a whistleblower in your accounts department, and that this information contains the proof that your intentions of changing the jobs system, money was spent on creating a secret hacking code to be used against every JSA claimant”
IDS ”What are you trying to insinuate me with? an all-purpose JSA spy programme to make sure those lazy bums are doing what we fucking ask them to in order to get piss all in JSA claims?
CC ”yes, you silly old slaphead”
IDS ”Okay, you old witch. Some of the money I threw down the plughole has been diverted to chinese government hackers to help them develop a secret spying code, now embedded within the flagship jobmatch website”
CC ”so , you finally admit that some of the money, of which i believe came from money saved through the enforced illegal use of sanctions, is being thrown at chinese government hackers”
IDS ”also, you silly old bag, I am trying to fuck up the welfare system by making every lazy bum jobseeker apply for 100 jobs per week now under pain of losing their meagre rations of money per week”
CC ”This commitee has seen further evidence that you like throwing money away whenever you get a bout of depression. Is this true?”
IDS ”indeed it is, you mangy old cow of a woman. the £40 million I burnt was a result of my severe depression, which was brought on by thoughts of my mummy being molested by African men”
CC ”Can you now explain to the commitee why do you need to fuck about the welfare system and further develop how people give evidence of their job applications?”
IDS then instructs the police to arrest the commitee members as he feels they are commiting acts of treason….
IDS ‘I am above the fucking law and nobody can telle me how to fiddle the nation’s purse, nor expect me to resign my post of the high-lord of the DWP nazi organisation’
Phone this number 020 7854 4243 to report your concern about IDS’ mental health. He is a risk to society and should be assessed. His address is Caxton House Tothill Street London SW1H 9NA and you don’t have to leave your name or number just a message if the office is closed. SHARE THIS WITH EVERYONE.
OT.
“Woman who miscarried in prison ‘forced to clean up blood in cell'”
http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/ww/story-20313643-detail/story.html
Remembered this from a gov.uk press release on the 3rd of June 2013.
Government announces details of post Work Programme support.
The intensive support will last for 6 months, and will be used for all Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants returning from the Work Programme who need more intensive support.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-announces-details-of-post-work-programme-support
So once you have finished the Work Programme, then gone back to the Jobcentre and have been with your ‘Hit Squad Adviser’ for 6 months (which some people will be almost there), there is nothing else after that until April 2014 when the new CWP starts, – Your adviser has to put you back on normal fortnightly signings in the meantime.
I urge everyone coming to the end of their 6 months with your ‘Hit Squad Advisers’ to follow the above link and print it out – before the DWP makes it disappear.
jj joop
Notes at the bottom of refuted link state the understatement of the year,
i.e welfare rights law and dwp guidance change frequently. I wonder why?
At what point are we going t know what’s happening with the discriminatory (ILLEGAL) ESA/WCA assessment? Is nobody concerned people are still being called for assessment despite it being ruled, again, as discriminatory? What the fuck is happening???????????????
SOMEBODY ASKED FOR A COPY OF THE MEMORANDUM THAT WAS CIRCULATED WITHIN THE DWP IN NOVEMBER.
IT RELATES TO THIS STORY;
By James Lyons
Civil servants told to judge whether disabled deserve benefits by GOOGLING their illnesses
20 Nov 2013 00:00
Leaked memo reveals Department for Work and Pensions staff were instructed to look online when assessing Disability Living Allowance and Attendance Allowance claims
Civil servants have been told they can judge whether to pay benefits to the sick by Googling their illnesses, after proper tests were scrapped.
In a memo leaked yesterday, Department for Work and Pensions staff were instructed to look online when assessing new claims for Disability Living Allowance for under 18s and Attendance Allowance for over 65s.
Shadow Work Secretary Rachel Reeves accused the Tory-led Government of showing “utter contempt” for disabled people.
The Labour MP said: “Out-of-touch ministers need to explain to disabled people how they’ve got to a situation where guidance is being issued telling civil servants to look for advice on complex disability cases on the internet.
“It’s just one more sign of the utter incompetence of DWP Ministers and their total contempt for a fair assessment process for disability benefits.
“It beggars belief that staff are instructed to look online for information on complex medical conditions until a full service is resumed.”
The fiasco comes after medical examinations run by hated contractor ATOS were scrapped and the rolling out of the new benefit, Personal Independence Payment — which is replacing DLA — was delayed.
Disabled people whose conditions have worsened are also being assessed by officials surfing the web.
The November 7 DWP staff bulletin stated: “Medical Practitioners will no longer be available as a source of evidence.”
Decision makers are advised to consult the “recognised internet sites such as Cancer Research UK and NHS Choices”.
Other suggestions include phoning the claimant or their carer, discussing the case with colleagues and seeking advice from social services.
But the DWP stressed officials were not just looking conditions up online.
A spokesman said: “Decision makers can also use information from sources including the claim form, care plans, medical reports and carers.”
……………………………………………………………………………
“STRANGE HOW THE DWP HAVE NOT COMPLIED WITH THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST FOR THIS MEMO?
THE REQUEST CAN BE SEEN HERE;
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/staff_bulletin_7th_november#outgoing-315696
Just received our quarterly magazine from our Charitable housing association of how they are micro managing us and our affairs.
They tell us of all the good projects they have financially contributed to within the community ( which should be council business not a housing associations), yet when you try to get a repair done they tell you it’s months before the work can be carried out because the tradesmen you want are all off sick or on holiday or some other lame excuse.
They ask us to fill in surveys for another new department opened up to provide well paid jobs for councillors or failed businessmens kids, while kids from the rented sector are told to do workfare for them in their gardening sector.
They do dog chipping, garden inspections, planting trees etc in no mans land, give money to youth clubs yet cannot afford to pay peoples bedroom tax that they have willingly imposed via orders from those on high then deny that it is their doing only national government are the baddies.
The only thing they should be providing is adequate housing and a repair service, the rest they should bloody well mind their own business and stop asking for people’s opinions which they then ignore or whitewash or lie their way out of any complaints.
The councillors will tell you bedroom tax is not their business along with the mp who just ignores emails you write complaining about government policy.
When are people going to rise up against the fascists who have taken over in every area of life?
Btw the newest department they have set up is to deal with extremism wtf?
Her indoors has got some front, accusing the police for pilfering nuts from her gaff that houses 240 bedrooms…………..
Not very becoming for an old dear that gave royal assent to the welfare reform act that is squeezing all our nuts.
Instead of moaning about a few nuts, she wants to have a stroll up the road to the nearby foodbank that she sees as befitting her subjects…..
……mind you, the diamond tiara and necklace would be a dead giveaway as she unveils a plaque to herself, whilst pilfering some out of date cashews, specifically for corgi’s only………..
YES, GEOFF, BUT 188 OF THE BEDROOMS ARE FOR STAFF ONLY…
……and they work for peanuts.
This weeks UC meetings featuring the usual stars are on freeview ch81 @ 7:15pm….if anyone’s interested in catchup.
This weeks UC select committee meetings featuring the usual stars are on freeview ch81 @ 7:15pm….if anyone’s interested in catchup.
Our government are guilty of DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION.
We are supposed to be afforded the benefits that allow us to lead as near a normal life as a normal person.
Equality Act 2010
Guidance
http://www.odi.gov.uk/equalityact
4
Part 1: Introduction
The Equality Act 2010
1.
The Equality
Act 2010 prohibits discrimination against people with
the protected characteristics that are specified in section 4 of the
Act.
Disability is one of the specified protected characteristics. Protection from
discrimination for disabled people applies to disabled people in a range of
circumstances, covering the provision of goods, facilities and services, the
exercise of public functions, premises, work, education, and associations.
Only those people who are defined as disabled in accordance with section
6 of the Act, and the associated Schedules and regulations made under
that section, will be entitled to the protection that the Act provides.
This weeks benefits and UC committee meetings featuring the usual stars are on freeview ch81 @ 7:15pm….if anyone’s interested in catchup.
Universal Automation shall not stop me you fools. All those found to be using this abomination can count on being sent a brown envolope for Christmas with my personal wishes for the new year in the form of a sanction. Merry Christmas.
@ IDS
Why don’t you just fuck off, you lame fucking baldy bonce scrounger. At least us jobseekers don’t squander £40 million unlike you did on a fucked up computer system doomed to failure.
Total JSA spending each year won’t come anywhere near your obscene wastages.
Your downfall is coming. Prepare to be forced onto you own work programme in the coming days and having to spend 2 years being dragged down and your human rights squashed all in the name of progress.
Hoping you get a fucking 3 year sanction and lose your JSA allowance if you were to refuse to be shoved onto your own failed job scheme.
The vultures are already circling, knowing your days as a toffee-nosed tory twat are numbered.
Universal Automation shall not stop me you fools. All those found to be using this abomination can count on being sent a brown envolope for Christmas with my personal wishes for the new year in the form of a sanction. Merry Christmas.
Yeah, & your abomination of a government has magically provided some £20 million quid for Syrian refugees, who quite frankly aren’t our problem. How about spending it on our own? £20 million would wipe out the bedroom tax. Or is that too simple for your pea-brain to comprehend?
@bamboozled
I have never yet been sanctioned, but everyone not under a sanction has been given a list of times when they sign over holiday period including gaps in signing (ie excused signing) due to their offices being closed and a list of dates when payment is issued/sent and thus we can more or less work out when we will actually receive it (it will be sent/issued slightly earlier if the banks are shut when we were due to receive it because it takes so many banking days to clear) . If they have agreed that your sanction is over by 3 months then they surely must owe you the information about the time when it is issued/sent and you would then work out when it will actually be paid due to banks being shut etc. Have you asked to speak to a manager yet? If not, then ask to speak to one, because you are still “a customer” if the end of your sanction is in sight and they owe you their service including precise information about payment dates, especially if you are still signing, which I presume you are otherwise your sanction end would not be in sight. It is unique form of torment for them to expect you to be on time for signing and fulfil every part of your side of “the agreement” and yet they are unable to fulfil theirs.
I’m sorry to not be able to give you better advice than this, but it’s all I can think of. Every time I read Geoff’s and others’ comments about the government I agree wholeheartedly with them; I can’t believe what this government is doing to their own people while condemning other openly oppressive regimes, and sending billions to the victims of those other regimes.
Are the billions that they are sending to the victims of these regimes going to the victims or the leaders of the regimes that are like themselves.
To pay for access to their people’s slave labour training and access to it’s goods or other assets in their countries.
Our country does dirty deals with other countries to sell us and other countries people down the river.
@bamboozled
I have never yet been sanctioned, but everyone not under a sanction has been given a list of times when they sign over holiday period including gaps in signing (ie excused signing) due to their offices being closed and a list of dates when payment is issued/sent and thus we can more or less work out when we will actually receive it (it will be sent/issued slightly earlier if the banks are shut when we were due to receive it because it takes so many banking days to clear) . If they have agreed that your sanction is over by 3 months then they surely must owe you the information about the time when it is issued/sent and you would then work out when it will actually be paid due to banks being shut etc. Have you asked to speak to a manager yet? If not, then ask to speak to one, because you are still “a customer” if the end of your sanction is in sight and they owe you their service including precise information about payment dates, especially if you are still signing, which I presume you are otherwise your sanction end would not be in sight. It is unique form of torment for them to expect you to be on time for signing and fulfil every part of your side of “the agreement” and yet they are unable to fulfil theirs.
I’m sorry to not be able to give you better advice than this, but it’s all I can think of. Every time I read Geoff’s and others’ comments about the government I agree wholeheartedly with them; I can’t believe what this government is doing to their own people while condemning other openly oppressive regimes, and sending billions to the victims of those other regimes.
Why has my reply to bamboozled been moved so far up?
Hi go to edit in yr browser and find then put december 13 and then scroll through all latest posts that way as it doesn’t seem to be in order. I hope this helps.
PLEASE WATCH THIS, ITS HEART RENDERING;
Hey all you job centre bods, for a look into your non-existent future take at look at elsewhere on the gov.uk e.g. at how the DVLA issues driving licences – there is absolutely no human interaction in this process from beginning to end (save for the postman who pops the licence through your letter box); the application is made on-line (there is no envelope to open), the identity checks and verification ( DWP/Passport database checks are all automated), photo signature is retrieved from passport database, the licence is printed and posted automatically. Of course, we know that A LOT of staff at the DVLA have been made redundant… and you smarmy paper-pushing fookers at the DWP who think you are in a cushy job for life will be next for the chopping-block for very soon there will be no paper to push… it will all be AUTOMATED 🙂 lol
jc staff astb automated
automated governance, then A.I. making laws…even MP’s will be made redundant… 🙂
JCP staff are already automated if anyone has noticed or not. A giveaway is when they say the exactly same words each time yo have to face them -”what jobs have you been applying for this week?” or the other cobblers wheeled out by them – ”how many jobs have you been applying for this week?”
Anybody working in the joke centre have their brains removed automatically as part of their ‘on-the-job training’
All they have fucking got is their own jobs and nothing else. It’s all they ever know; a cosy centrally heated desk job with all the perks and bonuses associated with being such a smug, stuck-up government twat.
They only ever feel secure once they are inside their domain as they all know that if they were to be seen outside they would have their heads kicked in.
One has to ask the ultimate question on here…
Has anybody actually seen a DWP nazi officer outside of their joke centre at any time during daylight hours? or are they secretly smuggled in through the back door under the cover of darkness so not to be recognised in the street?
“The Real Road to Serfdom”
http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/news/real-road-serfdom
DEAR DWP,
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUCK AROUND WITH THESE POSTINGS, TAKING THEM OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, BUT ONE THINGS FOR SURE, YOU CAN’T HIDE THE EVER INCREASING PILE OF DEAD BODIES MOUNTING UP IN YOUR GARDEN OF REMEMBRANCE………..
IT SEEMS THE POWERS THAT BE, ARE AWARE THE FIREWORKS ARE ABOUT TO BEGIN………
From: jimmy3
11 December 2013
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
My questions refer to security processes surrounding the Work &
Pensions meeting held on 9th December 2013 at 16:30 in the Wilson
room.
According to multiple witnesses (members of the public, mainly
physically or mentally disabled) who arrived to observe the above
meeting, they were initially met by standard airport and court type
security, metal detectors, belongings checked, they were frisked –
all pretty much what I would expect.
The public area was off camera (although some public members did
appear in view of the camera to find their seats and I did witness
one electric wheelchair user briefly on camera.
However the witnesses stated something rather disturbing which
wasn’t seen on camera which could explain their unusual silence
throughout the proceedings. There were several policemen or
security guards with machine guns, not pointed down, instead
pointing TOWARDS the public area throughout this meeting.
My questions are as follows:
1. Who from the DWP asked for these guards with machine guns to be
present?
2. Who from the DWP asked for these guards to keep their machine
guns pointed toward the public area?
3. Please provide the report which deemed it necessary to have
guards with machine guns pointed toward the public during this
meeting.
My fourth question is only for if you’re unable to answer any one
of the above questions.
4. Please specify the Government department I should send this FoI
request to if you don’t hold the above information on any question
I ask above.
(For public reference, the meeting can be watched here although the
public area and the guards with machine guns are off camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqJoGMKI… )
Yours faithfully,
Mr Glynne Powell.
Link to this
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/work_pensions_committee_machine#comment-45918
@ bamboozled, I hate the place myself, but it’s best to “grasp the nettle” and at least attempt to get the matter sorted out, because by the time of the holiday it will be too late. It is hard, also, not to raise your voice when you are talking to them about such an emotive matter, but it’s worth trying to control volume and tone in order to be assertive without being seen as aggressive. All the best with your next meeting with them!
“It’s worth trying to control volume and tone in order to be assertive without being seen as aggressive.” Are you sure your not a jcp worker or just a wimp?
When threatened by dwp workers why should you give them an easy ride, it is not aggressive to raise your voice, it is a natural intonation when being provoked, just like a dog will bark to warn off predators, which these jcp workers most certainly are.
So don’t give a flying f**k what they perceive as aggression because it is a natural reaction which they are trying to suppress and could cause you more upset and illness to stifle it.
@ guy fawkes. I am recommending that that is what bamboozled does because that is what I try to do since I have often been told by housing association staff etc to lower my tone and my voice when I am upset about something as I have a naturally loud voice. I try to do this in the jcp to some extent as well since I would rather give them, as you call it, “an easy ride” and still get a result than give them what they see as aggressive behaviour and be sanctioned, which is giving me a hard time and does not affect them at the end of the day when they go home. I will argue with them as is my right. Not shouting does not make me a wimp. Everyone knows how unreasonable the jcp are in what they term aggressive. Before I was unemployed I worked in a call centre and people thought that if they shouted and swore they would get better service, when what they got from me and others was hung up on, or as they term it in call centres, a released call. I would rather be sanctioned than actually work for jcp but if they told me there was a job going there I would apply for it if they gave me a direction to do so, because if I did not apply for it I would be sanctioned. If I went for an interview however I would make it clear to them that I would under no circumstances sanction anyone, and I would put that in writing and send it special delivery to them, and also e-mail that message to them. I would hope that that would mean that they would not offer me a job there, as it would destroy my mental health completely to work in such a place, even if I was not sacked for refusing to sanction anyone.
I am not going to argue with you further about this.
Fellow JCP sufferer,
It’s a fine balance though, having been recently ‘reprimanded’ for “talking very quietly” *(I have a naturally quite quiet speaking voice). They mistook this for somehow being a deliberate act of aggression – when combined with trying to be assertive/querying what they were saying. I was probably unnaturally quiet on that occasion due to trying to (as you say) remain in control/not end up crying or getting up & walking away.
They seeemed to be one step away from articulating that they’d like me to agree to a label of “passive aggressive” so they could send me off to receive some treatment at the hand of one of their own pre-programmed psychologists … more recently, they queried whether applying for ESA might be something to consider – not tone-of-voice-related …
Anyone with less than fairly good levels of self-esteem would soon start to question their own validity after a while trying to fend off the ‘helpful interventions’ of these …. (non)-experts in being human(e). They leave me speechless.
@ Shirley
Yes, your JCP advisors sound quite unbalanced. Perhaps they should apply for ESA themselves, although I wouldn’t advise suggesting that to them unless they perceive that as aggressive/passive aggressive/whatever their googled diagnosis of the day is.
Fjcps,
it’s a worry. The default position is that we are all extremely dishonest. At least some are now beginning to openly view & describe themselves as ‘job search police’ – & not even pretending to an ‘advice’ role at all. Wondering if their job titles are going to change to reflect this any time soon.
“Once you’re at the work programme, really we are just the police” (!) – a direct quote, meant to explain more & faster changes to ‘requirements’.
“WAITING FOR THE FIREWORKS”
From: jimmy3
11 December 2013
Dear Department for Work and Pensions,
My questions refer to security processes surrounding the Work &
Pensions meeting held on 9th December 2013 at 16:30 in the Wilson
room.
According to multiple witnesses (members of the public, mainly
physically or mentally disabled) who arrived to observe the above
meeting, they were initially met by standard airport and court type
security, metal detectors, belongings checked, they were frisked –
all pretty much what I would expect.
The public area was off camera (although some public members did
appear in view of the camera to find their seats and I did witness
one electric wheelchair user briefly on camera.
However the witnesses stated something rather disturbing which
wasn’t seen on camera which could explain their unusual silence
throughout the proceedings. There were several policemen or
security guards with machine guns, not pointed down, instead
pointing TOWARDS the public area throughout this meeting.
My questions are as follows:
1. Who from the DWP asked for these guards with machine guns to be
present?
2. Who from the DWP asked for these guards to keep their machine
guns pointed toward the public area?
3. Please provide the report which deemed it necessary to have
guards with machine guns pointed toward the public during this
meeting.
My fourth question is only for if you’re unable to answer any one
of the above questions.
4. Please specify the Government department I should send this FoI
request to if you don’t hold the above information on any question
I ask above.
(For public reference, the meeting can be watched here although the
public area and the guards with machine guns are off camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqJoGMKI… )
Yours faithfully,
Mr Glynne Powell.
Link to this
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/work_pensions_committee_machine#comment-45918
The following is a letter I have intercepted from the fascist DWP thugs, showing how devious they really are behind the public face…
”In response to your FOI, you can fuck off as we, the DWP, are above the law and we can do what we fucking want. Iain Duncan Smith will request both the police and the army to formally guard him whenever he is outside of his cushy desk job. IDS is working to set you free from the JSA system so he can screw you over by increasing your taxes to pay for his dolly bird mistress to be shagged from behind by expensive male escorts”
”Finally, we at the DWP wish you have a happy christmas, of which to that effect you have been placed on a 6 month sanction for simply trying to obtain information by an FOI to us”.
DEAR DWP,
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO FUCK AROUND WITH THESE POSTINGS, TAKING THEM OUT OF CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER, BUT ONE THINGS FOR SURE, YOU CAN’T HIDE THE EVER INCREASING PILE OF DEAD BODIES MOUNTING UP IN YOUR GARDEN OF REMEMBRANCE………..
The fascist DWP are now already digging their own graves even as we, the FREE citizens of the UK, speak up against them. With that baldy berk smithy, the sh#t is about to hit the fan big time…
I know too much now about the secret dealings that go on behind our backs in the joke centre and the mis-work programme to blow them all away with just one letter to my MP.
Ian dunce smith
your a silly man
“Iain Duncan Smith: a credit to the coalition.”
http://www.septicisle.info/?q=/2013/12/iain-duncan-smith-credit-to-coalition.html#comments
A disturbing fact-based thriller which explores the extreme things people will do under the instruction of an authority figure. [Set in a jobcentre plus/provider office] with scenes of humiliation and coercion that may offend.
Compliance – 15/12/2013 (tonight) 23:15 01:00 on Film 4 00:15-02:00 (Film 4+1)
The question on everyones mind today is, when will Duncan Smith start his life custodial sentence?
Surely the draft Modern Slavery Bill will encompass his heinous crimes of forced workfare, as these fit the category almost perfectly……………..
You cannot have distinctions between forced slavery and workfare as they are one of the same.
In fact, workfare, is an obvious choice as it does not need any police work to uncover it. It is there, blatant, and for all the world to see………
There can be no difference from running an underground sweatshop or taking on staff and affording them a meagre subsistence, the motives are identical, to save money……………
The courts of Human Rights should immediately challenge the UK government on the issues surrounding workfare, as this is, indeed, MODERN SLAVERY, albeit, in a different wrapper.
Prosecutions should be brought against the employers of slaves and the scorn should continue with mass demonstrations outside their doors.
………..the only visible difference with slavery of old is the absence of shackles but this has been carefully replaced with a sanction that could, inevitably, end in death. Therefore the modern version is more severe.
“WILL IDS BE ABLE TO VOTE, WHILE IN PRISON?”
Is jv dead, ill or just jumped ship?
nah still here, collapsed kitchen ceiling and flood amongst other things been taking up most of my time, will be sporadic over xmas, but hope to be back posting tomorrow
DEAR DWP;
WHAT IS YOUR LATEST BODY COUNT?
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO STIFLE, THE ONE THAT SHOWS HOW MANY HAVE DIED SINCE YOUR VILIFICATION OF THE POOR AND DISABLED…..
YES, THE FIGURE THAT YOU ARE SO DESPERATE TO HIDE FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION,
THE ONE THAT WILL BLOW THE LID ON YOUR CONCERTED “ETHNIC CLEANSING REGIME” AND EXPOSE YOU FOR WHAT YOU REALLY ARE,
THE MOST FINELY HONED KILLING MACHINE HIDDEN IN WELFARE REFORMS……….
THE STENCH FROM THE CORPSES THAT YOU KILLED, WILL NOT GO AWAY.
MEDIA CLEANSING WILL NOT REMOVE THE STENCH EITHER, TRY AS YOU MAY, YOUR ACTIONS WILL ALWAYS BE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE ONES LEFT TO TELL THE TALE………..
I AM JUST ONE, BUT MY VOICE IS MANY……………..
…………ALL BEARING WITNESS TO YOUR EVIL DEEDS.
Today I’ve received a scam telephone call at around 3:00pm from this number – 02392 386688.
After some intensive diggi9ng around on the internet, ii turns out this is a fraudulent phone number originating from Portsmouth and it is involving a credit card scam. I’m beginning to suspect whomever phoned me possibly obtained my home address from Universal Shitematch. If inded I can prove this to be fact, I will in no doubt start world war III at my jobcentre for illegally passing on my CV to an outside third-party that has gained un-challenged access to my UJM account.
………….it’s hard to imagine a line of coffins stretching for almost a mile and three quarters, but this is how many people have died as a result of DWP cuts firmly aimed at the poor and disabled.
……and yet, according to the DWP, the figures are pure fiction.
Try telling this to the families who are missing a loved one, now just an image, a memory, a tear stained photograph on a sideboard.
……….they know the truth, and so do you
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/dec/16/ministers-ignored-advice-fit-for-work-tests
When is this blog going to be added to, I wonder? 🙂
Reblogged this on The Heckler and commented:
Don’t you just love technology? A need is identified, namely how to get your life back from the digital equivalent of breaking rocks in the prison yard which is being forced to spend 35 hours a week applying for unsuitable/bogus jobs on the heap of shite that is the DWP’s Jobsearch website – and hey presto, those lovely geeks have the solution!
If anybody’s lame jcp advisor tries to gain access to a UJM account, just print off paragraph 82 of their own UJM toolkit and insist on their line manager in having a copy of your printout. They cannot dispute their own guidelines nor cannot dispute that not having free access to your UJM account will affect your jobseeker agreement.
DEAR DWP;
WHAT IS YOUR LATEST BODY COUNT?
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO STIFLE, THE ONE THAT SHOWS HOW MANY HAVE DIED SINCE YOUR VILIFICATION OF THE POOR AND DISABLED…..
YES, THE FIGURE THAT YOU ARE SO DESPERATE TO HIDE FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION,
THE ONE THAT WILL BLOW THE LID ON YOUR CONCERTED “ETHNIC CLEANSING REGIME” AND EXPOSE YOU FOR WHAT YOU REALLY ARE,
THE MOST FINELY HONED KILLING MACHINE HIDDEN IN WELFARE REFORMS……….
THE STENCH FROM THE CORPSES THAT YOU KILLED, WILL NOT GO AWAY.
MEDIA CLEANSING WILL NOT REMOVE THE STENCH EITHER, TRY AS YOU MAY, YOUR ACTIONS WILL ALWAYS BE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE ONES LEFT TO TELL THE TALE………..
I AM JUST ONE, BUT MY VOICE IS MANY……………..
…………ALL BEARING WITNESS TO YOUR EVIL DEEDS.
GEOFF REYNOLDS | December 16, 2013 at 9:07 pm | Reply
………….it’s hard to imagine a line of coffins stretching for almost a mile and three quarters, but this is how many people have died as a result of DWP cuts firmly aimed at the poor and disabled.
……and yet, according to the DWP, the figures are pure fiction.
Try telling this to the families who are missing a loved one, now just an image, a memory, a tear stained photograph on a sideboard.
……….they know the truth, and so do you
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DEAR DWP;
WHAT IS YOUR LATEST BODY COUNT?
YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT YOU ARE TRYING SO HARD TO STIFLE, THE ONE THAT SHOWS HOW MANY HAVE DIED SINCE YOUR VILIFICATION OF THE POOR AND DISABLED…..
YES, THE FIGURE THAT YOU ARE SO DESPERATE TO HIDE FROM THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION,
THE ONE THAT WILL BLOW THE LID ON YOUR CONCERTED “ETHNIC CLEANSING REGIME” AND EXPOSE YOU FOR WHAT YOU REALLY ARE,
THE MOST FINELY HONED KILLING MACHINE HIDDEN IN WELFARE REFORMS……….
THE STENCH FROM THE CORPSES THAT YOU KILLED, WILL NOT GO AWAY.
MEDIA CLEANSING WILL NOT REMOVE THE STENCH EITHER, TRY AS YOU MAY, YOUR ACTIONS WILL ALWAYS BE HIGHLIGHTED BY THE ONES LEFT TO TELL THE TALE………..
I AM JUST ONE, BUT MY VOICE IS MANY……………..
…………ALL BEARING WITNESS TO YOUR EVIL DEEDS.
GEOFF REYNOLDS | December 16, 2013 at 9:07 pm | Reply
………….it’s hard to imagine a line of coffins stretching for almost a mile and three quarters, but this is how many people have died as a result of DWP cuts firmly aimed at the poor and disabled.
……and yet, according to the DWP, the figures are pure fiction.
Try telling this to the families who are missing a loved one, now just an image, a memory, a tear stained photograph on a sideboard.
……….they know the truth, and so do you
Check out this video debate on workfare, just published on The Guardian website: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2013/dec/17/workfare-unfair-video-debate
We are all created equal unless…………………………
Father is a Judge, a Stockbroker, a Banker, etc etc etc……
Therefore, the whole pretence of being equal was dead in the water when it was first uttered, and has been ever since!
What makes one person have to survive on £71 per week and do workfare, whilst another does absolutely,sweet fuck all and gets paid £300 per day?
It certainly isn’t equality and it certainly isn’t looks, so what makes a person more unequal than another?
There is not one answer, but a combination of quirks of fate, or chapters in a lifetime, that lay a path for how a person lives their life………………….
Why should a miner work in a dangerous environment and do hard toil for a small wage, whilst a pen pusher does nothing and receives a handsome salary?
The equilibrium of who we are is defined by one thing only, money………..
If you ain’t got it, your nobody, and if you have it, your’e somebody.
But sadly, it doesn’t end there,because the “somebody” takes on the role as treating the poor as a “nobody” and in an effort to continue the “illusion”, strives to keep them there.
………..and that’s the problem in our country today.
To continue the principal of having importance, the richer of the two sees fit to do two things, firstly to push the poorer into further debt, and secondly to block any attempt for the underdog to catch up.
To enable these factors to happen, the rich need to belong to an elite.
The elite is usually formed by distancing from the poor and mixing within circles that have the same mindset.
Eton and the ilk being the breeding ground of individuals who consider themselves already superior, not by their knowledge or skills, but usually Daddies wallet………………..
Who needs to do an apprenticeship for four years, when Daddies friend, who usually owes a big favour, has an opening in the city?
………………BORN EQUAL, WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!!!
History, however, has a way of showing that the meek have always had a way of inheriting the earth.
The greed bubble is accelerating headlong into a big bang and all the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t put Humpty together again.
“Humpty knows this and is trying to manipulate the law and the media, the voice of the people and the multinationals………..
………poor old Humpty, i’m afraid your’e doomed!!!
Annex A
Annex A
Dear Geoffrey Reynolds,
Thank you for your Freedom of Information request received 26 April. You asked;
Has an exercise ever been done to quantify if £71 would be enough to sustain a human being?
PLEASE ANSWER, ITS NO GOOD
WRITING “WE THINK ITS REASONABLE”
Answer;
We are not aware of any exercises undertaken by Government on adequacy of benefits.
……………all those countless millions blasted on a renegade company, ATOS.
The HCP’s credentials aren’t worth a toss, therefore the DWP are fast backtracking, trying to erase any link with the charlatans as the evidence becomes unsurpassable………….
Therefore, as Razor states, the medical reports that were used to deny Incapacity Benefits, are reduced to junk……….
They are not valid in any shape or form and anybody who has had their benefits stolen by this charade, should have them reinstated immediately, along with compensation for the pain and suffering………………
The DWP are truly shitting themselves and the whole Disability Denial fiasco is in tatters.
Using google to verify if a claimant has a disability that warrants a benefit is further proof that the DWP have shot themselves in the foot!!!
Cracks have appeared and they are falling further into them,
“PAY THE MONEY BACK YOU THIEVING BASTARDS”
UJM automation (chrome app) has recently been updated with the previous version no longer working.
………..extract taken from staff bulletin to DWP internal departments on 7th Nov 2013, as highlighted in Daily Mirror;
evidence to be obtained before a decision can be made on balance of probabilities.
12. In exceptional circumstances, should all sources of evidence be exhausted and it is still not
possible to reach a decision on balance of probabilities, the designated person may seek
advice from ATOS using the DBD 385 via the medical evidence wizard.
………………………………………………………………………………
…………..they are saying, the use of ATOS material in making a decision on a disabled persons claim, must only be used if every other avenue has been thoroughly exhausted…………….
A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO ATOS WERE HERALDED BY THE DWP AS THE MOST HIGHLY TRAINED FIRE BREATHING DRAGONS OF THE HEALTHCARE WORLD.
TODAY THEY ARE NOT EVEN ON THE BACK BURNER……
NAMED AND SHAMED AS THE CHARLATANS THAT THEY REALLY ARE,
“THE PRODUCT OF A STATE ENLISTED, DISABILITY DENIAL MACHINE THAT HOLD NO CREDIBILITY WHATSOEVER, A SHAM IN EVERY RESPECT”
…………a ruthless organisation that has brought about deaths in our community, sponsored by the DWP in collusion with another government department, Her Majesty’s Courts and Tribunal Service,
“A FINELY HONED, WELFARE AND DISABILITY KILLING MACHINE”