Welfare Reform Has Failed: Number Of Long Term Claimants Soars Under Tories

long-term-claims-tableThe number of long-term claimants on the main out of work benefits has almost doubled since 2010 when this Government weren’t elected DWP statistics have revealed.

In 2010 a total of 698,000 people had been claiming Jobseeker’s Allowance, the Work Related Activity Group element of Employment Support Allowance (WRAG ESA), Income Support for Lone Parents (ISLP), or a combination of these, for three out of the last four years.  By 2013 this figure had leapt to an astonishing 1,244,000.

This does not represent everyone who has been on long-term benefits.  Whilst the statistical release doesn’t explain why these claimants were singled out in the figures it seems likely it is because all of those on these benefits are subject to ‘conditionality’.  That means they face workfare, benefit sanctions and all the so-called ‘help’ of the welfare-to-work sector to try and bully them off benefits.  Many will have endured two years of the shambolic Work Programme and like most sent on the scheme have failed to find lasting work.

The figures are particularly embarrassing for Iain Duncan Smith as this is exactly the groups of claimants many of his bungled welfare reforms have been aimed at.  Billions has been spent harassing and stigmatising this group only to make the problem far worse than when the Tories came into office.

The analysis of the figures points out that one reason for the growing number of this kind of long term claimant is that it does not include all those on working age benefits including people in the Support Group of ESA – who are not forced to look for work, or those still claiming the old Incapacity Benefit.  The DWP’s excuse is that the Atos re-assessments, which have found hundreds of thousands of people ‘fit for work’ and so placed them under a conditionality regime, are responsible for this huge rise in the number of long-term claimants.  Whilst on the surface this seems to make sense, it actually turns out to be complete bollocks.

This is because the total number of people on all working age benefits for three of the last four years –  including the ones left out of the first figures – has also risen since 2010, from 2.46 million to 2.49 million.  The ESA re-assessments, which have caused untold suffering and are linked to an ever growing number of suicides, have not made a dent.  This is backed up by the official figures for the number of people on all forms of out of work sickness or disability benefits which despite Atos, has only fallen by about 200,000 since 2010.  This comes nowhere near to explaining the jump of half a million people on long-term conditionality based benefits.

Iain Duncan Smith’s reforms are absolutely hurting – unprecedented numbers of people are finding themselves dependent on foodbanks to feed their children.  Welfare reform is costing a fortune, with billions of tax payer’s money being shovelled into the pockets of grasping parasites like G4S.  But it clearly isn’t working.  4% of the working age population has now been on benefits for three out of the last four years, up from 2.3% in 2010.  Iain Duncan Smith’s reckless experiment has failed.  And the cost of his breath-taking arrogance has been homelessness, child poverty and in some tragic cases, even death.

View the figures at: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/307634/duration-on-working-age-benefits-may-2014.pdf

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131 responses to “Welfare Reform Has Failed: Number Of Long Term Claimants Soars Under Tories

  1. Reblogged this on sdbast.

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      IT FEELS SO STRANGE, LIVING IN MY PARALLEL UNIVERSE……………

      IT’S AS THOUGH THE PEOPLE AT ONE OF THE COUNTRY, THE THRIVING METROPOLIS, HAVE ACCESS TO ANOTHER PLACE IN TIME AND SPACE AND MY FRIENDS AND I, ARE IN A PLACE THAT TIME FORGOT.

      DAVID CAMERON IS TODAY HERALDING THE UK;S RISE IN PROSPERITY AND YESTERDAY I HAD TO BUY A PACKET OF HUGGIES NAPPIES AND CUT THEM IN HALF TO MAKE DO………

      BEING DISABLED AND FORCED TO LIVE ON £32 SINCE LAST JULY IS NO MEAN FEAT, MEAN BEING THE OPERATIVE WORD!

      CUTTING NAPPIES IN HALF TO MAKE MY MISERLY BUDGET GO FURTHER IS AN EVERYDAY TASK, AS IS PREPARING MY OUT OF DATE, 3 MONTHS OUT OF DATE, PATAKS NAN BREADS WHICH I WILL DIP IN SOME GRAVY MIX, ALSO OUT OF DATE.

      LIVING ON SUCH A LOW INCOME IS JUST PUNISHMENT FOR ME SPEAKING OUT AGAINST THE SYSTEM AND THE SCUM BEHIND IT. YET I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW, LIKE THE HUGE MAJORITY OUT THERE, I AM RIGHT.

      STICKS AND STONES WILL NOT BREAK MY BONES BUT INCREASE MY RESOLVE TO SQUEEZE OUT THE POISON OF A TAINTED SOCIETY.

      IT DOES NOT COME AS A SHOCK THAT THE MORTALITY RATES OF OUR CHILDREN IS STAGGERINGLY HIGH, YOU ONLY HAVE TO VIEW AREAS BEYOND LONDON TO SEE THE EFFECTS OF THE ODIOUS QUEENS WELFARE EXTRAVAGANZA ON THE POOREST.

      MOST TOWNS ARE STARTING TO RESEMBLE HOGARTH;S “GIN LANE”, AS THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS BEING SUCKED FROM ALL BUT THOSE OF AFFLUENCE………….

      THE UK IS FAST BECOMING A CESS PIT, THE CREATIVE GENIUS OF THOSE WHO PROFESS TO KNOW WHAT IS RIGHT FOR US, THE SO CALLED POLITICIANS, A GENTLEMEN’S CLUB FORMED ON THE PROCEEDS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY TO BOLSTER THEIR OWN POCKETS………….

      I DON’T HAVE TO WAKE UP TO THE DAILY BULLSHIT BROADCAST BY OUR TWISTED MEDIA, I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD, THE ONE DISCRETELY HIDDEN FROM THE REST OF THE WORLD, THE SHITHOLE OF WHAT THE UK HAS FAST BECOME.

      FILL YOUR WALLETS AND KEEP ON KILLING, YOUR PROPHECY IS SOON TO BECOME SELF FULFILLING, YOU WILL FALL ON YOUR OWN SWORDS AS THE SKELETONS OF WHAT YOU CREATED, FIGHT BACK..

      I WOULD NOT FLINCH FOR ONE SECOND AS I PULLED THE TRIGGER TO BLAST YOU BASTARDS INTO OBLIVION……………….

      • Geoff,

        You’re absolutely right about city centres that resemble one of Hogarth’s paintings (& that one especially). That’s exactly the right description for the one here, with no reason to suppose it’s some kind of an anomaly – & whichever minister for the day repeats the mantra that foodbanks in their community do a sterling job/the kind people volunteering in them should be praised for their efforts …

        The early-age death rate isn’t a shock by any means in this context – but the day-to-day reality is horrendously shocking; two polarised groups of people living side by side in a parallel universe.

  2. If they spent the money on creating jobs – but they don’t want to. If there were enough jobs they wouldn’t be able to force wages down.

    • That’s part of it — that, plus the sheer malevolence of people who regard the working class as an inferior species that has to be kept in line to serve the superior ones. In both its practical and the psychological aspects, however, it has to be repeated that IDS’s/the government’s unemployment policy is NOT a failure from their point of view, only from the point of view of anyone who believes their lies about their motives.

      Even the Guardian is beginning to acknowledge this. See Suzanne Moore’s column of April 30, ‘Let’s call “Help to Work” what it really is: punishment of the undeserving poor’. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/help-to-work-is-really-punishment-unemployed-people

      • Thanks for the link. They create unemployment. Blame the poor, then walk off with the profits. A street mugger has more decency.

      • Excellent article. In a nutshell.

      • It was as if she’d been reading this blog (almost).

        • Suzanne Moore

          Hello :) *waves*

          • Hi Suzanne!
            Your article was really good; am surprised you were able to sneak it past editors & to the front of the supplementary bit of the paper … i look at the grauniad only very occasionally now & less & less often – as a (residual, bad) habit from a past life – the one in which Labour were the peoples’ party (!) and things were going to “get better” should they win elections. It was long ago & far away …. just the letters page/NS’s food pages are worth a read now before going off into a daydream … but your writing might help them to again reach a wider audience if you carry on in like this – you must have lost quite a few of your older, more/less idealistic/disillusioned readers by now …

      • @Katherine Perlo,

        The left should have been careful in what they wished for, remember No Ifs, No Buts?

        There is no denying they were all targeting welfare, the left despised unconditional social security as it allowed people to opt out of the Third Way collective.

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    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      “I WONDER HOW MANY OF YOU DISABLED, OUT THERE, HAD THE WORDS “CLIENT DECLINED”, ON THEIR ATOS MEDICAL REPORTS”………..

      Dear Ms Bellows
      Freedom of Information Act – Request for Information

      Our Reference: FOI 407

      Thank you for your Freedom of Information request which we received on 25 January 2013.

      You asked:

      With reference to ESA Work Capability Assessments

      What does ‘Declined’ mean when used in an ESA medical report form?

      Is there an option in LIMA other than free text which allows giving reasons for a client
      to decline to attempt to do something or to decline examination? Because of pain for
      example?

      What do DM interpret ‘Declined’ to mean when seen in a medical report and when
      there are no explanations?

      How can ‘Declined’ be shown in a medical report when the available LiMA
      documentation doesn’t list ‘Declined’ as an option for the HCP to select?

      The explanation does not appear in guidance, but in order to provide an explanation “decline” is
      a word used by our computer system (“LiMA”). It does not differentiate between ‘will not’ and
      ‘cannot’ perform a movement, but highlights the fact that it is not a movement a customer
      followed through on the day of the examination. It is intended as a descriptor to highlight to the
      Decision Maker at the Department for Work and Pensions (DWP) the customer’s ability on the
      day of the assessment.

      Yours sincerely

      DWP Business Management Team
      Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)

      ………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

      IF A COMPUTER PROGRAMME CANNOT DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN “WILL NOT” and “CANNOT” PERFORM A MOVEMENT, THEN IT IS NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE…………

      HOWEVER, THIS IS ANOTHER LIE FROM THE DWP BECAUSE PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE SCREEN USED BY THE LIMA SOFTWARE, SHOWS CLEARLY THAT THE OPERATOR ONLY HAS TO TICK A BOX THAT SHOWS THE CLAIMANT WAS UNABLE TO DO THE TASK.

      WHEN THE DWP DECISION MAKER SCRUTINISES YOUR MEDICAL REPORT, HE TAKES THE OPINION THAT YOU HAVE REFUSED TO COOPERATE DURING YOUR MEDICAL, REFUSING TO DO WHAT WAS ASKED OF YOU.

      “WHO SAYS DISABILITY DENIAL IS NOT IN FULL SWING IN THE UK?”

  5. gfranklinpercival

    When I were a littlun’, fifty years ago, it was evident that mechanical efficiency would make employment part-time or optional. Why did this not come to pass? The world is overpopulated, but there is sufficient food, at least for now. Buckminster Fuller was keen on the idea of education above the necessity of continual labour, Carl Sagan, I believe it was, observed that we rely upon technical advancement that few of us comprehend. It has been found that education reduces population growth, so why do we not educate?

    As it is in UK, we have a prime minister who was and remains a dunce in mathematics, a chancellor of the exchequer with a non-relevant degree in modern history, a secretary of stae for justice with a degree in history and lacking legal qualification, a secretary of state for education who read english and was once a journo. To cap it all we have George Iain Duncan Smith, who was exceptionally awarded a degree by some outfit in Italy that does not confer them.

    Has any one of them ever actually done anything, over and above tying their shoe-laces?

    • Idi Amin Smith’s degree is not even worth the paper it is printed on. For all we know it is a Mickey Mouse Degree from a fake college in India and that other people have used the same type of paper to wipe their own backsides with.

      I have messed around with my WPP and I will mess around my JCP if they try to shit me with the contrivance help-to-work bollocks.

      • GORDON KEANE

        Regards IDS, ETC…
        Here are a few snippets about this evil satan worshipping NEW NAZI, (he certainly ain’t Christian).

        CV inaccuracies: ….. A Newsnight investigation in December 2002 found that Iain Duncan Smith’s CV contained ‘inaccurate and misleading’ claims about his education. The investigation found that Duncan Smith’s biography on the Conservative Party website, his entry in Who’s Who, and various other places, stated that he went to the Universita di Perugia in Italy. It transpired instead that he had attended the Universita per Stranieri, which is also in Perugia, however the University did not award degrees when Duncan Smith attended in 1973. When challenged by Newsnight, Duncan Smith’s office confirmed that he ‘didn’t get any qualifications in Perugia or even finish his exams’.[4] The first line of Ian Duncan Smith’s biography on the Conservative Party website claimed that he was ‘educated at Dunchurch College of Management’. Dunchurch was the former staff college for GEC Marconi, where he worked in the 1980s, again Duncan Smith’s office confirmed to Newsnight that ‘he did not get any qualifications there either, but that he completed six separate courses lasting a few days each, adding up to about a month in total’. John Garside, a former Dunchurch tutor, told the Newsnight investigation team ‘I’m puzzled, flattered, but puzzled. What we did was offer short courses… it was not a continuous form of education by any means.'[

        This useless guy’s actual name is George Ian Smith.
        The extra “i” in his name…Ia”i”n going from Ian to Iain and the “Duncan” was added to make him sound posher!

        Regards Perugia’s Università per Stranieri, a rough English translation of this means the Foriegners school.
        Literally it means … “University/college/school for strangers”
        Although it appears to have a much higher standing today, back 40 years ago, it certainly wasn’t comparable at that time to any school of higher learning like the ancient univeristy which is quite famous. In fact while it used the “university” label, as would be tradioanl in places like Iatly and othe continental countries, regardless, it only became a full universiy rpoper speaking in 1992.
        So when George Ian says he went to University of Perguia, he is quite openly lying. When he says he went to university in Perugia, he is telling the truth, but in such a way that most ppl understand, he meant the ancient institution. He is being delibrately misleading therefore. Either way, he is being wilfuly decptive.
        If any jobseker tried that one, he would be big trouble with either an employer or DWP.

        Truly is this guy evil, as is his Regime he fronts.

        Here are a few more links to the guy’s past…..

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I…..ncan_Smith

        http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/u…..ok-1400558

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffi…..s_cv.shtml

      • Iain Duncan Smith does not have a degree and actually lied about studying for one at the University of Perugia which has confirmed he was never a student there.

        • Never trust bald-headed lunatics in positions of power, especially when their eyes are far to close together. IDS has all the personality traits of a gangster criminal. He makes the Kray Twins look like Bill and Ben the flowerpot men.

        • Iain Duncan Smith MP

          Bollocks, you lazy unemployable chav. My degree from that college is fucking real. Get a job you smelly hippy and stop lazing on your fat ass watching Jeremy Kyle every day.

  6. – unprecedented numbers of people are finding themselves dependent on foodbanks to feed their children.

    Why are the unprecedented numbers not manifesting in sizeable street protests or even an atmosphere of political tension on the streets, where are the politically bovvered yoof of these times?

  7. Reblogged this on Vox Political and commented:
    I’d say you can’t argue with the figures, but we have a government of Tories and Tory Democrats. See for yourself.

  8. Another Fine Mess

    It’s the Waste Programme, there’ll be another 300,000 long term unemployed created since those figures, making it 1,540,000 by now!

    • Maybe now that David Camoron, Dick Clegg, Idi Amin Smith and Fester McVile will realise that their policies are failing big time and cannot ever be fixed.

      Bring on the Help-to Work scheme, you tory tossers. I will mess it up the same way I have messed around with my WPP since 2012.

  9. Another Fine Mess

    A UC report from Warrington.

    92% on UC are in rent arrears.

    Only 5000 have been on UC, the claimed figures are actually reducing. :o

    L Fraud has to admit there’s no evidence of it helping people find work, and other bollox.

    Starts at 9:30.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b041svbg/North_West_Tonight_01_05_2014

  10. The contrivance work programme has done absolutely jack shit for me since I got thrown on it in mid 2012. Every time they (at the WPP) sign-posted me to an employment opportunity, all it was ever being offered by them was zero-hour contracted work and nothing else meaningful.

    This is how all WPP’s fiddle the unemployment figures to make it look like they and the government are spouting good news for the economy and to also make it look good for themselves (WPP’s) in order to keep their grubby contracts and weekly £250 client attendance payments running without question.

    The amended DWP rulings covering zero-hour contracts are my weapon against my WPP, effectively stopping them by law getting me into zero-hour contracts as arranged between the WPP and whomever employer with employment links to my WPP.

    Five separate occasions within eight months, so far, that they have desperately tried and failed getting me into zero-hour employment. The first three times I messed them about big time after I found out myself that I was about to end up with no regular wages or work.

    Last month (April), two occasions nearly sucked me into this type of work again by those cheating tossers, until I quoted the new DWP rulings via an explosive e-mail to their head office. Once they got this e-mail, they backed down and were happy for me not following up their sign-posted mandation into agency work (0 hours per week guaranteed.)

    Only Monday however this week alone, whilst vegetating in their local office for jobsearch, it was obvious to me that overhearing a phone call from another WPP client to my WP advisor, this client was ordered to take up, accept and apply for the very same zero-hour contract that i had previously and recently refused to undertake by me using the new DWP guidelines.

    It is clear from this that my WPP is blatantly ignoring the amended DWP rulings that WPP / JCP clients CANNOT be signposted or mandated into accepting, applying for or taking up any offer of work if it is deemed at any point that the offer of work mentioned is indeed zero-hour contracts, and that if the offer of said work is refused and not taken up a sanction cannot be issued.

    If anyone on this blog site is currently on the WPP and their WP advisor signposts or mandates you to an employment offer by telephone call or by WP letter and you later find out the job can only give you no minimum guaranteed set hours per week nor guaranteed pay per week, tell your WP advisor they are in the wrong and show them the amended DWP rulings covering zero-hours.

    I sourced this info myself and saved a whole lot of trouble and prevented being sucked into destitution and the temptation of getting into debt with payday lenders just to survive and get my rent paid.

    • something survived...

      After I’ve stuck up for myself and managed to get out of things they tried to impose on me, right afterwards I’ve overheard them force other jobseekers to do the same illegal things they don’t have to do. But apparently, it’s an offence to approach, contact to or speak to another jobseeker or try to intervene in their case!

  11. Your dead right about the damage that has been done to the most vulnerable in society, whom by misfortune or illness and disability are demonised. If you add into the equation the number of failed suicides and I am ashamed to admit that I let the twats at the DWP get me into that position, the cost to the NHS is immeasurable. The server damage that befell me becouse of my migration to ESA will be with me for the rest of my days.They not only did they try to deny my entitlement, they took a way my self respect and eventually will to live. If I was not ill enough then, they made sure that I certainly am now and will be forever. It is to late for me now as I have been damaged by severe psychiatric injury (please feel free to look the term up, it does exist) but please try to ensure that our next generation will be more compasionate and caring and just may be learn from our mistakes. All I can hope for is that some day that someone at the top of the DWP tree will be man enough to say ” WE FEEL YOUR PAIN, WE SHARE YOUR CONCERNS, WE HAVE LERND FROM OUR MISTAKES AND WE HAVE MOVED ON TO A BETTER AND MORE COMPATCHENAT SYSTEM OF ASSESSMENT. In the words of the squatter at number 18, “Nothing more nothing less”
    Tommaz Jay
    Tired, very tired of having to fight for every single penny of benefits worked for 46 years.

    • The nazi run DWP is rotten to the core. No amount of investigations will ever uncover the truth about them or their leader, Herr Duncan Smith.

      Every day being with the WPP and JCP is a constant battle of wits and tactics just to keep my head above water, pay my rent and keep my sanity preserved. Their only answer of helping me back into work is zero-hour contracts and nothing else. What the fucking good is that to me?

    • @ Tommaz Jay

      If the DWP win, we have lost the battle. I, myself have been broken many times by those nazis. It is a wonder that I keep going what with all the battle scars I have been inflicted with by them. Only by using the DWP’s own guidelines against them keeps the braying vampire dogs from my door.

      @ Tommaz – the best answer I can give you is ‘don’t let the bastards grind you down’

    • The terrifying thing is that most of the frontline DWP staff have become feral.

      Their jobs REQUIRE them to act in ways that would be disagnosible as psychopathy (it is known that psychopathic disorders can be acquired), and it is likely this is impacting their families and communities away from the workplace too. And those who CAN’T stomach the nazi ideology seem to be suffering breakdowns anyway. How long before we hear of a DWP worker going postal and strangling their kids or stabbing a wheelchair user who got in their way on the pavement?

      The DWP is so deeply toxic that to have any credibility at all, LABOUR will HAVE TO dismantle it, with disturbed and volatile staff laid off – not just transferred elsewhere.

      Somehow there needs to be from Labour a pledge or charter that will guarantee equal treatment and respect for human rights on the part of ALL public bodies for all citizens, regardless of wealth, disability, or age (and this includes the NHS which increasingly marginalises and neglects those it deems to old or disabled to be economically productive).

    • tommaz
      the problem is the we have been force fed lies….they do all in their power to try to spin their lies into something that we have to fight against believing/accepting and we also have to fight against these lies as in WCA debacle or we lose our vitals of life ie they force us to jump through hoops based on these lies that is what causes the damage, coupled to our fight against the removal of our benefits…they tell us what is good for our wellbeing even though we know different…that they told a lie if it ever needed proving is proved in the above figures….it could also likely be proven that the latter figures shown are actually much higher, the higher the figures the more damaging the lie, all lies damage…we have to answer whatever crap they throw at us or we lose our benefits or fear that we might….we have to be paradoxical compliant fighters, and react to the systems merry dance….see merry dance of stoat…i have found on my way to the many tribunals that i have attended, panicking and wanting to run (flight), with the sheer exhaustion of the run up to it, the fear of the traumatic interrogations, trying to be present and defend self effectively and the possible/likely weeks of admin aftermath, the many miles of travel many hours of admin, living life on a razors edge is not good…the sheer determination/effort to get through the process is massive and all the time one knows that one should be resting, of course it grinds one down, from somewhere one has to find the energy to carry on and not let the bastards beat one…i look after my self the best i can, live a very simple lifestyle (not much money so it has to be for all of us) and let my anger live, it drives me on….those that don’t have to go through it always claim that there is nothing to it, as if, it is black and white routine bread and butter stuff, they lie to me, the collective us/we, and worse to themselves ( belittle, make small, minimize)…(ecap dpac jv et al tell it how it is…orgs and people that downplay it’s impact are not to be trusted)…the reality for the claimant is worlds apart from that, being sick and disabled, told it is all in mind, the miracle of work life, without domestic life, sacrifice heating clothes footwear tooth paste, loo roll, wash clothes in bucket if no washing machine, save up to pay for travel, paper stamps etc try to eat as well as possible wrap up in layers, wear a head torch, 1 9w bulb for lighting, posting as a social life, trip to the shops as a highlight of the week, hours and hours of time to kill between admin events, life is mere existence at times….but, the more i battle against this toxic system, the better i feel…what we are short of is time to deal with the traumas caused by their constant attacks…..keep expressing it sets one free…i actually feel much, much, better now than when i started out on my claims journey….got to keep pushing them out of head and away from body, make as much time for self and keep them as far away from one as possible…stay focused on needs of self, this is working for the common good….no 1 comes 1st always…

      • You were fed alphabet spaghetti when a child.
        I was told proper inglish and told to recognise pretensusniss

  12. … be signposted or mandated into accepting, applying for or taking up any offer of work …

    Doubt it is legal for the JC+ Kapo to mandate any job offer as the only way it can be verified is by the disclosure of personal correspondence, the DWP rely on claimants conceding their rights through fear.

    • The WPP or JCP can only now mandate clients into work (without disclosures) as long as the type of work ISN’T deemed (before, during, or after accepting or applying for) as zero-hour contracts.

      If they send you to a contract and that you find out the contract is zero-hours, a sanction cannot be issued if you fail to accept, apply for or if you refuse this offer of work.

    • I was signposted into potential employment by my WPP without so much as my name being sent by the WPP to the employer.

      • @Fen Tiger,

        Signposted – why did you accept being signposted like a child on its first day at kindergarten by a low level bureaucrat, what next a Kapo mandate to stand outside JC+ with a for hire sign hung around your neck?

        • I’m still on the WP at present so If I am signposted to some work contract I have to follow up their direction automatically otherwise I will end up on sanction for three months and will NOT be able to pay my rent and bills. Therefore, unless I can prove to them the job referral handed to me is zero-hour contracts I have no choice but to undertake whatever cobblers my WPP advisor sends me to.

          I’m applying like crazy for jobs left right and centre on UJM and other websites all of the time now, but employers can’t even be bothered the slightest to reply to me to let me know how my applications went on. I always request feedback from them on UJM, but employers just want to collect CV’s, they can’t even at least show me any decency. After all, I apply for their jobs, ask for feedback but get nothing in return.

          I’ve seen this week alone that UJM is re-advertising old jobs again lately that I applied for 6 months ago. Does that tell you something about how corrupt UJM actually is?

          Until I am off the WPP later this summer, if at any time I am asked by my WPP advisor by telephone or by letter to follow up a job lead they send me I have to do take it up under pain of sanctions if i had an excuse to refuse it. Zero-hour contracts won’t come my way again after I sent a vicious e-mail to their head office containing the amended DWP rulings of these types of contracts.

          quote ”Signposted – why did you accept being signposted like a child on its first day at kindergarten by a low level bureaucrat, what next a Kapo mandate to stand outside JC+ with a for hire sign hung around your neck?”

          Easy to say this to me, but unless, or until, you go on the WP yourself , you are free from their petty bullshit and backstabbing. I have to do whatever they send me to, unless I can supply information supporting my case not to take up their dubious offers of work. Not once have their ever signposted me to work worthy of my training, qualifications or experience. All I get from them is any old pony just so they can claim money from the employer they set up the arrangements with.

          for example; My WPP supply me to a contractor, the contractor pays my WPP up to £1000 on-site attendance for honouring their side of the agreements.

          • My WPP supply me to a contractor, the contractor pays my WPP up to £1000 on-site attendance for honouring their side of the agreements. = The Human trafficking of coerced and vulnerable people.

            Have been sanctioned for 4 weeks on the WP just succeed in surviving that, there is no way to manage or survive a second sanction that would kick the ball into total confrontation.

            • something survived...

              “Not once have their ever signposted me to work worthy of my training, qualifications or experience” said Fen Tiger…
              That’s exactly my experience of 2 years on work programme and on every previous scheme of the last 20 years I’ve been sent on! They never found me a single job or offer of a job or offer of an interview, in all that time. By their own standards they are so crap at their stated objective, they should sack themselves.

  13. They will have to take my trusted Giro Biro From my cold dead hand.

    • I thought that Giro’s were phased out a few years ago and that all benefits were only being paid directly into bank accounts now. Unless there is a black market in Giro’s and that somebody is using a printing press to run off forged Giro’s, I am missing a trick here.

  14. I’ve just accepted a part-time, insecure, ‘flexible hours’ (at their fucking beck and call) shit job, on unconscionably shit money that is drudgery, total public humiliation and pure exploitation and they expected me to be overjoyed and grateful. Well I’m fucking not. I feel sick to my stomach, I feel like I’ve been hit by a truck, my head hurts and I feel like weeping. I feel trapped. I feel like a condemned man. I’m fucked.

    All the jobs that I went for that were bearable, had some fucking dignity and paid something approaching a subsistence wage kept giving me the same response: “thank you… we regret to inform you… we had many candidates… it was a tough decision… we wish you well… blah blah fucking blah”.

    For all the jobs that I actually wanted, I got all dressed up in my suit and prepared meticulously. For this interview that I attended under Work Pogrom duress, I just showed up in my casual clothes and got it. :(

    • My WPP have tried to do the exact same shit with me, trying endlessly to get me onto zero-hour contracts. That is until I fired off a letter of complaint to the local office I attend and a vicious email to their head office stating the DWP policy on zero-hour contracts. They soon backed down and shut up when I reminded them of the rules they never take notice off.

  15. karmayoucunt!!

    the bloke who sends a letter a day to dippy dave camamong is going to a police station today to get that baled Nazi bastard charged with the genocide of i would say at least 20.000 people. i wish him well! cant see it happening but it’s a start!! i am due in my local gestapo office later today the department for deceit and sanctions!! i have noticed the day before an appointment with them, and as i type this i suffer bad anxiety restlessness teeth grinding i can feel my self grinding them now, i was also informed my interviews will now take place in a screen private room!! they don’t like me you see i take no bullshit from them!! and if the shit does hit the fan i will be going right back on esa!! citing my reasons for doing so the dwp are making me ill./….hit the cunts were it hurts the pocket just keep going from esa to jsa they will soon re think there bullshit!!! fuck em past caring me and wow betide if they try getting me working for a giro all week! i will cost the company a lot more than it will save the greedy exploitative cunts!! i have noticed the black market booming in the last two years to shop lifters cant keep up with demand, the local baccky man is buzy. don’t let george lying bastard smith, grind you down ppl karma will catch up with that balled twat!!! he all ready as to be escorted by armed guards! and will now all ways look over his shoulder till the day the cunt dies!! evil nazi sponging tori bastard!!

  16. I cannot be a coincidence that Help-to-Work’s unpaid workfare and educational elements, which only affect the long-term unemployed, remove people from the head count of the unemployed for their duration. This is an old wheeze used by precious governments for years to make it look as if unemployment was falling when in fact it wasn’t. You can expect more of it from whoever is in power.

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  18. Anyone know how these figures square with the great rise in the number of self-employed entrepreneurs who, we are led to believe, are adding enormous turbo boost to the economy?

  19. Taken from the DWP’s own amended guidelines –

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/166969/response/407562/attach/2/FoI.3022.RESPONSE.pdf

    ”You may find it of interest that DWP’s Secretary of State Iain Duncan Smith answered a question on Zero Hour Contracts in the House of Commons on Monday 1 July and gave the following reply:

    “I recognise that this is an issue. Some 200,000 people are employed on zero-hours contracts, which is just less than 1% of all workers. The current benefit system deals with claimants on zero-hours contracts, but universal credit will mean that they will not have to re-sign on. Personally, I think there should be far fewer zero-hours contracts.
    We are trying to work with employers and the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills to persuade those who have a genuine long-term job to get off zero-hours contracts and get a proper contract of work.”

    Jobseeker’s Allowance claimants are not required to apply for zero hours contract vacancies and they will not face sanctions for turning down the offer of a zero hours contract.

    * I used this information against my WPP to shut them up and stop them trying to off-load me into insecure work and insecure wages.

    • fen
      the figure for 0 hr contract is 1.4 m and it may be even higher… http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-27219654

      • How many of these zero-hour jobs have been filled through Work Programme referrals just to fiddle the un-employment figures and to pretend that the welfare reforms are claimed to be taking effect?

        • fen
          exactly my conclusion…but even that has not worked which makes the above figures even more dramatic and/or suspect, as being way too low….

          • One thing I know is my own WPP (Papworth Trust funded, and run on behalf of Ingeus) is suspected to be regularly sending some its other clients off to WP advisor referred zero-hour contracts. They tried it with me until I told them to get stuffed and comply with what the DWP now say.

            • fen
              yeah, the right thing to do, in hobson’s choice world, we find ourselves in atm…
              technically they can offer them…does 0 hrs with a company seem a
              safer better option than self-employment for an individual in the current climate, i wonder….neither are good for the sake of it, both are potentially/likely exploitative…ie for getting away from the dwp or other hassles…all an odd jobs/work/life framework…and very often no cause of wellbeing!

          • fen ps
            but to survive a worker surely must be getting at least some hrs, which is baffling me a bit…coz jsa/esa are out but hb ct is available…but i assume eligible for wtc…uc is based enough hours….0 hrs contracts can be used for part time work hrs….

            • The Government classify a minimum of 16hrs per week as full-time and anything under 16hrs per week as part time. So surely then an 0hrs guaranteed per week job is less than part-time? Something the mugs in power may have overlooked in order to secure election votes and cook the welfare figures and the welfare budget.

              • fen
                well it is/maybe, really needs looked @, coz some people must be surviving somehow on them…it is just more fog to contend with, until their further ONS/TUC/STUC research is done….

              • How the hell can 16 hrs be classified as full-time?

              • GORODN KEANE

                For Working Tax Credit purposes, Full Time work is regarded as being 30 hours and more.
                For some ppl who get certain disability payments like those still on DLA, etc, they may qualify for Working Tax Credits for work over 16 hours. Single parents qualify for the 16 hour rule too, but for couples it appears the rules are now quite complex, probably to make it almost impossible for them to bother claiming.

                This is from DWP website regards Full and Part- time
                “A part-time worker is someone who works fewer hours than a full-time worker. There is no specific number of hours that makes someone full or part-time, but a full-time worker will usually work 35 hours or more a week.”

                Most DWP staff will not accept anything under 25 hours at least as being anywhere near full time.

                But all that isn’t much use to someone looking for work that will give them at least £200 a week on min wage. Very few posts at 25 hours will allow you that, unless pay is over 7.50.
                Anyone with a min wage job, it would have to be 30 hours plus. Otherwise they could still find themselves claiming for some form of Housing Benefit.
                DWP don’t want ppl claiming for anything.
                Thus we have this new insistence, especially with Universal Credit, that everyone must be looking for Full-Time work…. Which as we all know, is very thing on the ground these days!

  20. Can someone tell me why Johnnie Void has a huge sign with the word CONDEMNED above all of the posts on his site?

    • It’s a play on words because the Conservatives and Liberal Democrats are in a coalition government and also their joint policies are condemning us all to a life of slavery and destitution

    • I preferred the sign with houses of parliament burning it was very iconic.

      • Yes, Cephalus, V for Vendetta! Ours!

        • Lucy | May 2, 2014 at 11:54 pm | Reply

          Speak for yourself about revenge guy. I’ve never seen it do any good. I just want a stop put to the abuse and exploitation.

          guy fawkes | May 3, 2014 at 2:44 pm | Reply

          Lucy

          Why are people imprisoned? because they are deemed to have done something to harm their fellow man. To want revenge is the same as saying we want justice, the same justice that has been meted out to us, not as vigilantes but in exactly the same way as it was forced on us.

          I’m sick of platitudes and injustice.
          guy fawkes | May 3, 2014 at 3:02 pm | Reply

          ps Lucy, you might consider yourself the voice of reason and me unreasonable, but I beg to differ. If the working class make mistakes they are made to pay for it, if the middle and upper class do in their professional positions they call us extremists for wanting justice, just as you have.

          Even now we have tv programmes showing cruelty by those in working class jobs but never in those in middle an upper class professions that have decimated lives.( that is if it is not trick camera work to make the public paranoid and suspicious, well it doesn’t fool me), but when something really is going on and we question it we are told we are being paranoid and suspicious.

          You do not know so much about psychiatry etc without wanting to study it and be part of it. I want rid of what is an oppressive, circumspect, cruel pseudo science.

          Television programmes they are feeding the public now are nothing but propaganda and cruelty.
          Now they are asking for VOLUNTARY guinea pigs to see why some people live longer than others. ACCORDING TO THE QUACKS THEY ALREADY KNOW THE PREACHING THEY ARE DOING TO EVERYONE AS IF THEY ALREADY HAVE THE ANSWERS.

          Another programme in the offing, putting people on a desert island to see how long they can survive.

          Once we start questioning the professionals to justify their vast salaries or want justice, we start getting fed crap like this.

  21. They are condemning only those they want to it seems. I think Mr Void could use something more uplifting at the top of the posts, something more revolutionary perhaps.

    • Jester McFail

      Mr Void has hit the nail on the head Hugo, there’s nothing uplifting about this non elected coalition!

  22. Off topic but maybe not really off topic. You decide.

    Had a conversation on twitter yesterday with a person who is Labour minded. Anyway i noticed him getting into a spat with someone else and he kept saying that austerity was here and the welfare state needed to be overhauled because it was out of control.

    So i said no the welfare state actually didn’t need any reform what was needed was a total clamp down on tax avoidance/evasion and making corporations pay what they owe. I then said that would wipe out any debt, thereby there is no debt to pay. Austerity is only being used as an excuse to batter the poor and working class.So anyway that would allow not only benefits as they are now to be completely affordable but they could actually be increased.

    That’s not mention there would still be money left over for things like the NHS etc.

    Anyway then he started quoting people that he knew that are on benefits and they get £39k a year in benefits. He said they go on holiday to Egypt, Florida and the like and their house is like a palace. They are both sick and getting sickness benefit plus they have six kids. He says that doesn’t stop them entertaining their friends in the pub and the like.

    Does this sound like a bitter person to you or what? This is symptomatic of what we’re up against in this country. People that claim to be socialists sniping and complaining at others getting benefits. Cameron and IDS must be laughing at how their divide and conquer tactics are working.

    • This is the level of despair that the Tory scum drive people to. Leaving a man with nothing.

      http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/benefit-cut-roof-protest-furious-3483882#.U2KMUT2OfYE.twitter

    • raining
      tax evasion est £150bn pa alone…these welfare reforms cause human wreckage of lives, costs the nhs dear, prevention is always better than cure + the billions spent on bogus schemes…
      the welfare bill is roughly £204bn 53% of that pensions, £2.9bn goes to jsa and overall benefit payments are 40% lower than the ESC says they ought to be…..
      mindlessness is caused by terror, not bitterness, how one gets through to all, i don’t know, but give them facts…the nazi’s used the same mind numbing tactics….everyone who abuses others suffer, there are a great many people who are just trying to keep it together, i suspect like the one’s you describe…claiming that we have life of reilly, lavish lifestyles but deep down they know this is not true, keeping themselves in the dark keeps them feeling safe…many thought that benefit fraud was 27% the true figure is 0.7% more is lost through admin error and £16bn pa goes unclaimed..

      http://www.tuc.org.uk/social-issues/child-poverty/welfare-and-benefits/tax-credits/support-benefit-cuts-dependent.

      “first they came for the socialist”… etc etc… martin nielmoller..

      • OBD. I agree. The guy i mentioned on twitter i told him i’m not interested in what someone’s getting on benefits. I’m glad they’re getting it and i’m not gonna go around castigating anyone on benefits because i know that’s what the daily mail and the Tories and probably the Labour party want. They want the poor sniping against one another because it takes the attention off of them and makes life easier for them because it sends the message the public will agree with all this austerity BS and sanctions.

    • They must laugh until they cry.

      Most of the group conversations I’ve overheard or been involved in over the past few years have sooner or later descended into benefit bashing or immigrant bashing. It seems to have become a part of the culture, like complaining about the weather.

  23. So these cunts think 16 hours is part time now? My advisor told me a few months back not to apply for them as i would be worse off. Fucking arseholes can run and fuck if they think I’m working 16 hours a week to be about 50 quid worse off a week! All it needs is a national strike to bring these nazis down. Drop tools everyone! Ian cuntin smith please phone me to arrange a face to face. Peaceful ofcourse…Shower of fucking nazi cunts vote yes and hit people over the head who vote no.

  24. Vote no to keep us all united in the union is fucking retarded shite. Get them tories to fuck forevermore. ANYONE voting No is a TORY.

  25. Fill balloons with piss and throw them at any cunt coming to your door looking for a vote in local elections or failing that just punch them. On the half chance it’s not a red tory or a blue tory or a libdem nazi or ukip nazi then continue as you are.

  26. Signed on today, not my adviser just a normal signing the bastards have been nice lately.. the lull before the storm it has almost been like it was a few years ago at times. I fill my job search in and the bastards don’t even look at it much like at school when the 100 lines would get tore up after ye handed them to the teacher without so much of a glance at them.

    I think people with a disability aint going on these 6 month schemes cause of insurance shit am i correct?

    • This is all guess work from me i havent been told this

    • From what I’ve heard, there are likely to be insurance issues with everyone forced to do an unpaid work placement, not just people with disabilities. This is because, although employers can apparently have an addendum on their insurance policies to cover volunteers, there isn’t any provision for someone who is there unpaid but not a volunteer. As a result of this there could be major problems for an employer if someone on a mandatory placement is injured or even killed. Of course the government and the likes of G4S are too thick to consider this (either that or they’re deliberately burying their heads in the sand).

      • Surely the same should apply to MWA, but that doesn’t seem to have deterred the various pimps involved in that scheme.

        • It very likely does but perhaps no one has challenged it because MWA tends not to last that long? Employers taking people on MWA have probably up until now just been lucky that there haven’t been any serious accidents.

  27. living on the dole is easy say some arsepieces.

    ok

    Fridge is fucked milk won’t last 3 days then it turns to mush
    tumble dryer is fucked door is off and bin pressed against it keeps it on.
    No carpet in one of my rooms.

    These are major things if you had money they would get fixed right away. It will take me a few years probably to sort this. Fuck you and your benefits street you bastards.

  28. Another Fine Mess

    Looks like nobody will be cleaning war memorials afterall.

    http://www.boycottworkfare.org/?p=3549

  29. You all talk the talk but none of you walk the walk!
    Apart fron Geoff, who seems to be constantly fighting for info/rights….rest of you appear to think that sitting around and being a key board warrior will help to change the outcome of your life!
    If only you made as much effort to attend a protest! I know….you cant….because…..your disability…etc prevents you from doing so!
    But you still question why others are not up in arms about the way we are all being treated!
    If you want to change your life, then you have to make an effort to do so! No one can do it for you. And that means you have try and make an effort any way you can instead of constantly expecting others to do it whilst stating…”I would but….’

    • I’ve been to loads of protests. What can you do when your not working? The workers hold the power to change things.

    • tt, I don’t know how you can be so sure that no one apart from Geoff is fighting the system. Have you hacked into all of our computers? Are you sitting outside our homes on surveillance duty? Are you rummaging through our bins or mugging the hundreds of posties delivering our mail?

      If what you want to make is a call to arms, probably best not start it with insults.

      There are plenty of people here who are fighting, taking every action they possibly can, some put their own wellbeing and safety, in jeopardy by fighting the system. It isn’t just the DWP that many will be fighting either, many will have their own battles going on with the NHS and local authorities. Many will be contributing to getting hold of data, interpreting it, sharing it, helping others online and offline, not forgetting trying to survive in a system that sets out to destroy the individual if they so much as breathe a bit differently.

      Maybe you are naïve tt? The nature of this punitive, unjust system makes it very risky for people to always campaign under their own names and share details of their actions. Not everyone can stick their fingers up to the JC+ or WP Adviser who threatens them with a sanction. Some will have families to feed, some will simply not have the wherewithal to stand up to the bullies. It isn’t their fault. This system is driving people to kill themselves.

      People have the right to support a cause in any way they choose. This isn’t the 80s and policing and policy regarding public protest has changed dramatically since those days. Since the 80s the internet has allowed so many who can’t make it out onto the street to also have a voice. Why would you diminish their voices because their choice of protest method differs to yours?

      If you are the grand activist, then you must be aware of FIT…

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_Intelligence_Team

      ….and the problems it causes to individuals who attend protests and marches. Not to mention mass arrest on spec, water cannons, tear gas and tasers, which have been and are threatened to be a feature of public protests. See the current edition of Private Eye for some examples of this.

      What are you doing then tt?

      • Great response Lucy. Funny how tt seems to be a mind reader and knows the background and activities of everyone who posts on here.

        The only thing we ask tt is that everyone does what they can. if that’s nothing apart from giving and airing their opinion amongst us then that’s fine. If it’s contacting workfare providers to voice their displeasure at the exploitation of unemployed people then that’s great etc etc

        There are loads of people on here, everyone i’d say, that are protesting in their own way.

        What they don’t need is a smart arse like you coming on and rubbing salt into their wounds with your snide comments.

    • Reap what you sow – the conditioned outlawing of individual displays of public emotion in the Interest of the uniformity of the social plain.

      The collective self policed itself into a corner in the name of social cohesion, denouncing and prosecuting anyone that raised their ugly political head above the banal uniformity of the collective social plain.

      The collective called for the unemployed to have the social position beneath that of a criminal.

  30. tt have you considered that some ARE trying and doing all they can? For some all they can do is be keyboard warriors. Myself I am standing for local election for TUSC but due to my health I cant even compete with the big 4 parties in canvassing. Small party very small army. But I am trying. I also appreciate what others do even if they are only raising awareness, this is still more than DC/GO/IDS want. We’re all being beaten into the ground and many are loosing the will. Rather than castigating people give them a boost to help them get up

  31. All this is just a cynical smokescreen by a useless government to hide its own gross incompetence to do something about unemployment. For that,of course, you need proper full time jobs. To provide these you need investment,decent employers,government training,regional development moneyand job creation. What we have instead is a nasty vilification of unemployed people,aided by right wing media, forced workfare, massive benefit cuts and money being wasted on an industrial scale on the Work Programme.

    • most of those the things that you say the country needs was supposed to be in place under Blair, but training was shit and they were using businessmen from failed businesses to train people in their defunct industries to keep them voting tory,
      The employers that were still in business .call centres for debt recovery, baliffs etc (what crap jobs they are), they were demanding smart dress for interviews, even if going to work on a building site( TO MAKE MONEY FOR THEM, how dare they?)
      Job creation ideas were gleaned from anyone and everyone whether they worked or not, were profitable or not paid decent wages or not. The whole thing was a farce and joke, some were fake jobs with fake interviews just to keep the redundant workforce on the hop, under the cuff and under the illusion that they were going to provide decent paid jobs for the working class.
      Only if your part of their cronyism or your fact fits – manners do not maketh the man.

  32. how many special people change how many lives are living stange

    i am on a 3 month sanction now, only one payment off them into the claim!! reasons are that i failed to upload a public cv on ujm i made the account an email address like they asked, but never upload the cv ?? but did take the physical copy of it in to show them I had one. just told them am unsure how to get it digital so to speak?? bastards that’s me now in deep shit with no chance of looking and getting a job now! my main priority now is wondering how I’m going to eat. i am so fed up with it all i am anxious depressed cant sleep cant attend my dentist appointment (which i really need) the anger and dissent i now hold for the dwp is not healthy i really do give up i have not left my flat now for two days not once :( had a bowel of pasta and one banana in two days :( stay strong people

    • G4SS rule everything

      i will be in a similar situation soon,no staying strong for me the pills are ready,but i admire your faith and strength and hope it works out in the long run,i feel lucky i have no family etc,its just me would be harder with that,i think the tories will win next year,the “we are christian” line being sun constantly blue rinse vote sorted,i am a christian and find it nausiating that they can do this with no comment from the church

  33. G4SS rule everything

    all careworkers to take a test before working with the vulnerable WTF they dont now! whats the betting G4SS will get the training contract,another money spinners

    • All of these work providers need to be given tests, anything that probes into their brains for a start, followed by how much they are prepared to shit stir tests, followed by lie detector tests.

      • GEOFF REYNOLDS

        Just watching the news, the best propaganda tool ever invented…….

        Apparently we have to make lifestyle choices in our diets and social life in order to live a much longer life……….

        What lifestyle choices do they relate to?

        When you have no choices you are just the next victim of this welfare state, one of the hidden government mortality rates.

        Most in the uk have the choice to eat or heat, not much room for manoeuvre it would seem?

        Never mind, we might make our fifteen minutes of importance by being a statistic to show how well our recovery is doing………..

        Some governments make grave mistakes, yet our government put it’s mistakes in graves, probably the main winner in it’s ethnic cleansing, funeral directors……………….

        • Geoff

          The middle and upper classes are running scared, they are inventing work or research for them to do to justify their jobs and salaries.

          How abut a retrospective programme on how bad things are despite all of the money being poured into the coffers of the establishment and it’s cronies.

          The tv fills us with horror against our own class or the achievers that come from working class but have done bad, such as Saville and Max Clifford, but you never hear of what the so called professionals are doing to decimate economies and peoples health and well being or any retrospective justice for them. The Thatcher years up to present day especially.

    • Will the SNP allow access to the Scottish Welfare Fund to claimants that have been sanctioned.

      • GORDON KEANE

        As far as I can make out, the Scottish Welfare Fund, can give a person who has been sanctioned some help.
        Got this from a Scottish council website. (Moray).

        ……“ The Scottish Welfare Fund cannot provide a regular source of income if you have been sanctioned by DWP. But, it can help out in a crisis. We have changed our guidance to Councils to make that clear. ”…….

        What that means is they can’t give anyone any regular payments but can help out at least with something. The fund is administered locally by each local authority in Scotland……it is not an SNP thing, but they simply happen to be the ruling administration at Holyrood just now.

        • Scottish Welfare Fund
          The new Guidance is valid from April 2014.

          Sanctions and Disallowances
          6.9 Applicants subject to a disallowance or a sanction by DWP can apply for help from the Scottish Welfare Fund, that is for Crisis Grants and Community Care Grants, in the same way as any other applicant.

          Local Authorities should consider eligibility and prioritisation in the normal way, as set out in the decision making process at section 7 of this guidance. The reason for the sanction or the way it has been applied should not be taken in to consideration in assessing the application.
          :-)

          • “Are you (or your partner if you have one) subject to a Job Seekers Allowance sanction or disallowance/sanction for failure to attend a work-focused interview?*
            Yes
            No
            If so, please tell us about this. For example, the reason for the sanction, when it started and when it will finish. We will not give you any assistance living [sic] expenses if you are subject to a DWP sanction unless you are applying for food for children. We may be able to give you a [sic] some help if you have experienced a disaster.*”

            • GORDON KEANE

              Where did you get that info from? Was it a local council website? Because it appears to be incorrect. The Scottish Welfare Fund cannot help with regular payments like JSA, but it is designed to help ppl in the situations like sanctions, and so on.
              Councils do not take their orders from the DWP but from the rules laid down by the Scottish Parliament.
              If other councils can help with some finanacial assistance, what’s stoping others? It certainly isn’t any rules from Edinburgh.

              This is official info….

              “1
              SCOTTISH WELFARE FUND – MYTH BUSTING Q&A
              You have to be on certain qualifying benefits to apply for a Scottish Welfare Fund grant.
              False: You don’t need to be on benefits to be considered for a grant. But, you do need to be on a low income, either in or out of work.
              The key test for a Crisis Grant is the severity of the risk to your health or safety.

              The key test for a Community Care Grant is what you might need to allow you to stay in your own home and have a settled way of life.

              You have to have children to get a Scottish Welfare Fund grant.
              False: You don’t have to have children to get a Scottish Welfare Fund grant. You are more likely to get an award if you do have children because we want to make sure that children are protected. But, we have changed the Fund to make it easier for people without children to get a Community Care Grant when they are under exceptional pressure.

              You can’t get a Scottish Welfare Fund grant if you have been sanctioned.
              False: The Scottish Welfare Fund cannot provide a regular source of income if you have been sanctioned by DWP. But, it can help out in a crisis. We have changed our guidance to Councils to make that clear.

              You can’t get a Crisis Grant if you have applied for DWP benefits.
              False: If you are making a new claim for DWP benefits, you should try to get help from DWP before you ask the Council for help. In some circumstances, DWP can give Short Term Benefit Advances to people who are making new claims for benefits.

              You can’t get a Community Care Grant for everything.
              True: There are some items that are not part of the Scottish Welfare Fund – such as payments to cover debts, or work-related expenses. There is full list of things that are not available from the Fund on the Scottish Government website. Also, as the Fund is budget-limited, we might not be able to provide the same items for everyone. For example, a washing machine might be essential for one person, but only desirable for another.”
              ————————–

              So I would challenge that version you have as to why it differs from the above.

  34. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    DEAR MRS QUEEN,

    WHEN YOU TOOK THE TITLE OF MONARCH OF OUR PEOPLE, YOUR LOYAL SUBJECTS, DID IT MENTION ANYWHERE IN THE PAPERWORK THAT YOU WERE FREE TO SHIT ON THEM FROM A GREAT HEIGHT?

    DID IT ASK YOU TO PLACE YOUR SUBJECTS IN DIRE POVERTY, STEAL THEIR HOMES OR TORTURE THE DISABLED AND POOR?

    FROM WHAT I CAN SEE OF YOUR REIGN, THE MOST WORK YOU HAVE EVER DONE, IS TO SHAKE HANDS, FEED YOUR FACE WITH THE FINEST FOODS, AND UNVEIL PLAQUES TO YOURSELF.

    SELF SUFFICIENT, YOUR FAMILY ARE NOT! YOU HAVE DONE MORE TAPPING OVER THE YEARS, THAN AN ILL FITTED WATER PIPE……..

    TAKE A GOOD LOOK IN THE MIRROR. YOU ARE WHAT YOU SEE, A WRINKLED OLD WOMAN, EXACTLY OPPOSITE OF THE MANY PAINTINGS THAT ADORN YOUR MANY PALACES.

    NEXT TIME YOU PUT ON A BROOCH OR ARTICLE OF JEWELLERY, CONSIDER ITS VALUE AND HOW MANY OLD PEOPLE YOU COULD TAKE OUT OF POVERTY OR HELP TO KEEP WARM NEXT WINTER.

    PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU TO SET AN EXAMPLE. IN TURN, YOU SEE FIT TO IGNORE ALL BUT THE RICH.

    GET OFF YOUR BIG FAT ARSE AND SEE THE REAL WORLD YOU HAVE HELPED TO BUILD………

    LEECHING OFF THE STATE IS NO EMBARRASSMENT TO THE ROYALS, PART AND PARCEL OF DRIVING THEM INTO DESPERATION WHILST SIGNING WELFARE REFORMS IN PART EXCHANGE.

    P.S. IF YOU CANNOT DO THE JOB THAT YOU ARE EXPECTED TO DO, BUY A BUNGALOW AND DISAPPEAR FROM THE AGENDA.

    YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A FIGUREHEAD, NOT A BLOCKHEAD

  35. Geoff

    NEXT TIME YOU PUT ON A BROOCH OR ARTICLE OF JEWELLERY, CONSIDER ITS VALUE AND HOW MANY OLD PEOPLE YOU COULD TAKE OUT OF POVERTY OR HELP TO KEEP WARM NEXT WINTER.

    The poor countries have probably given her the jewellery as a gift for her visit, she profits from them, as do we all now that the third world countries are the greatest producers, i.e. in cheap goods.
    We are on the losing end when it comes to investment and jobs though.

    • GEOFF REYNOLDS

      Four days after Nicolae Ceausescu and his evil missus were blasted to death, i was outside the palace, in a small cafe, having a coffee…………..

      The palace walls were riddled with bullet holes but the people were celebrating, the evil romanian dictators had been ousted by those they treated like dirt.

      It could happen here………………………………

      I know what would look nice atop the palace railings……….

    • guy, a lot of ‘old people’ are very well off. We also get ‘extras’ such as winter fuel allowance, free bus passes etc. Our pensions are not subject to sanction, we are not expected to live on nil income as jobseekers are expected to do. You won’t find any of us queuing at a food bank for a packet of value pasta and out-of-date packet of custard creams.

  36. I think this article should be sent to the editors of every major newspaper..DARING them to Publish the facts..not fiction…and if every reader of the blog sent a copy to their local paper..or the link…so they can see the comments too…Manchester Evening news..here I come..:-)

  37. GEOFF REYNOLDS

    For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.

  38. The fireworks don’t come until the finale Geoff, v for vanquished.

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