Homes Not Jails: Sleeping Rough Is Not A Crime – Protest Tomorrow 26th February!

boris-homes-not-jailsWith Iain Duncan Smith’s bungled welfare reforms driving many of the lowest income Londoners from their homes, the clown Mayor of London is ensuring that even the streets are not safe for those being socially cleansed from the capital.

A new policing operation in six London boroughs will treat homeless people like criminals with arrests, harassment and even destruction of personal property to be inflicted on those who cannot afford a home.

A protest against this obscene measure has been called outside the Mayor’s Question Time tomorrow Wednesday 26th February at 10am, details below.

“The Met have announced plans to make ‘rough sleeping’ a crime in 6 London boroughs.  Operation Encompass will be in effect in Camden, Islington, Lambeth, Southwark, Westminster and  Croydon.

We are opposed to this latest attack on Homeless people and will protest at City Hall to tell Boris Johnson and the GLA to call off this hideous campaign criminalising some of the most vulnerable people in our city.

Already there have been arrests of people whose only crime is to be homeless due to the lack of Shelter spaces and suitable accommodation.

We ask people to support our opposition by attending and circulating the information amongst their networks and groups.

The biggest crime of all is the fact that people are homeless today.”

Meet on Wednesday 26 February 2014 10.00 am, London Assembly (Mayor’s Question Time), City Hall, The Queen’s Walk, London, SE1.

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180 responses to “Homes Not Jails: Sleeping Rough Is Not A Crime – Protest Tomorrow 26th February!

  1. Classic stuff from the moronic mayor. So let’s see; it’s not a crime to leave people with no money, no benefits, no roof over their heads and to wander and sleep on the streets. But it’s a crime to be on the streets because of the aforementioned revolting benefit sanctions and treatment.

    Not bad enough being reduced to homelessness, salt is then rubbed into that raw wound by also criminalising the person.

    Yes friends the UK is a rich country, one of the richest in the world and this is how we treat the weakest and most unfortunate members of our society.

    The UK absolutely stinks nowadays.

    • The smell of fetid discontent is no better in my JCP. Not to mention some JSA customer in there today smelt like a blocked toilet.

      • Fetid discontent – were they an (’80s) band? & ‘JSA customers” smell bad’? IDS would love hearing that, but why would anyone on here?

        • s n
          bad company..is what they are….

        • He might have been sanctioned – it might have been a choice of a bar of soap or a loaf of bread, and the “JSA customer” chose the latter.

          • & JCP’s are very airless – they don’t dare open the windows.

            • At my JCP the staff refuse to have the window blinds open in case they can be seen from outside

              • ‘At my JCP the staff refuse to have the window blinds open in case they can be seen from outside’ In case they get their fucking heads caved in by a flying brick more like it!!!!!

                • Yep. If only that were true. Even in the height of a hot summer, my JCP will have all of the windows and blinds fully closed and last year they only had the bloody central heating on full-blast in July. Twats. In there I was sweating buckets as the air was stuffy and hot. All the fans were doing were blowing hot, sweaty air around the building; as much use as a chocolate teapot.

                • Where are the LibDems they seem totally complicit with these natsy party measures. They are a disgrace and I’m sure they’ll pay next year when they disappear into oblivion. They are as much use as a chocolate poker.

                • Be careful, they might think about paying for air conditioning systems for their offices out of welfare money next on top of what they pay the poverty pimps.

                • They’ve probably thought of it already anyway.

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  ONE OF MY FRIENDS WHO IS DISABLED, WAS ASKED TO GO AND SEE HIS HOSPITAL CONSULTANT AT SCARBOROUGH HOSPITAL REGARDING A THIRD OPERATION ON HIS SPINE……………..

                  STRANGELY, THE MEETING SEEMED MORE LIKE A TRIBUNAL HEARING FOR WORK CAPABILITY.

                  HE WAS ASKED STRANGE QUESTIONS LIKE,

                  “HOW DO YOU FILL IN YOUR DAY?”

                  HE DESCRIBED HIS MEETING,

                  “AS IF HE WAS BEING EVALUATED TO TO SEE IF HE WAS WORTHY OF BEING OPERATED ON”

                  THIS COMES AS NO SHOCK TO ME, AS THE SUGGESTION OF LIMITING OR STOPPING HEALTH CARE TO THOSE UNEMPLOYED, DESTITUTE OR HOMELESS, HAD REARED IT’S UGLY HEAD IN THE MEDIA RECENTLY…………….

                  WHO THE FUCK GAVE THESE ARSEHOLES THE ROLE OF GOD IN DECIDING WHO LIVES OR DIES?

                  YESTERDAY MY FRIEND TODDY RECEIVED A LETTER FROM THE BORDER AGENCY TRIBUNAL JUDGE THAT HIS WIFE, A THAI NURSE CANNOT VISIT HIM IN THE UK, EVEN FOR A SHORT HOLIDAY, BECAUSE THEY THINK SHE WILL NOT GO HOME………………

                  HE HAS BEEN MARRIED FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AND WHEN HE APPLIED FOR HER TO COME OVER THEY TOLD HIM SHE CANNOT COME BECAUSE HE HAS TO EARN OVER £18500 PER ANNUM TO SUPPORT HER……….

                  WE LIVE UP NORTH.

                  TODDY’S ILL MOTHER EVEN WROTE TO THE JUDGE, BEGGING THAT HER SON COULD BE WITH HIS WIFE…….

                  THE JUDGE RESPONDED BY SAYING THAT THEY COULD LIVE A SUCCESSFUL MARRIAGE IN THAILAND………..

                  TODDY WAS MADE REDUNDANT FROM HIS JOB AS A WAGON DRIVER THE WEEK AFTER HE WAS WED.

                  “TWO AND A HALF YEARS WITHOUT HIS WIFE”
                  THE MARRIAGE WAS A BIG EVENT, IT WAS REGISTERED PROPERLY FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES, YET SHE CANNOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED FOR A HOLIDAY?

                  SHE EVEN GOT LETTERS FROM THE HOSPITAL WHERE SHE WORKS, STATING SHE WOULD RETURN…………

                  WHAT A SET OF EVIL BASTARDS!

                  and then………………

                  ON THIS MORNINGS NEWS, BRITISH VISAS TO BE SOLD TO THE HIGHEST BIDDERS.

                  BIDS OF OVER TWO AND A HALF MILLION WILL SECURE A PLACE IN THE UK FOR ANYONE…………………….

                  ROTTEN TO THE FUCKING CORE……………………..

                • geoff
                  spot on…“HOW DO YOU FILL IN YOUR DAY?” yes, it is a disgustingly toxic question, a very rude and intrusive question….done to disarm and yes are you worthy of our attention….

                • I think that this sort of health care discrimination has been going on for a long time obd. I’ve been asked similar intrusive and offensive questions in my quest to get appropriate treatment myself. I am convinced that if I was working I would not get asked these things.

                  The elderly have been having their health care rationed for over 30 years, especially when it comes to cancer diagnoses. If you are a great grandparent with caring responsibilities you stand a better chance of getting some treatment than if you do not have a family.

                  There’s been talk in the press lately on using “contribution to society” as an indication of whether a patient should get a particular treatment or not. Now the benefit of a treatment may have to be seen to not only do the patient good, but it must benefit wider society. Unfortunately that translates in the grunt-speak of our culture as “has the patient got a job or are they a worthless, scrounging, malingering bit of scum?”

                  Tick boxes galore!

                • lucy
                  i am grateful for both yours and geoffs clarity, geoff/lucy you are both very astute…lucy reynolds comments on the health and social care bill…see her vid…..
                  lucy, it has yeah, i was going to add this and other stuff to geoff’s post above, to fill out my reply that you now respond to, where flesh and blood is turned into paper…what they did to me, confused and alarmed me, but i got through it and worked out precisely what and why they were doing it.. the true psycho therapy that i had, many years ago, which i have been building on also for many years now, opened my eyes to what they do, and i gradually got to their root methodology….their m o and it really stinks…i have been attempting to explain it in my posts…they have an evolved, stepped up now to “nip it in the bud” process, linked to occupational health…their management scheme, is denial…the generic methodology is claims denial…all found in behaviorist methodology, cognitive dissonance practice and theory…i have also highlighted the cure and antidote to this vile practice…the only cure available to us for poverty, atm is money, for a manifold and complexed myriad of reasons…therapy does not create jobs, nor better physical health nor access to natural resources…only better emotional health..which obviously means that access to the most powerful word in any language has been undeniably granted = NO!, (get lost), and mean it. i’m an engineer by trade, human being has vanished from the health care model, done by intimidating the human being out, they fix/patch up compliance productive drone…

                • ps lucy
                  omission alert…
                  true psycho therapy does not create better physical health once it is ruined, or set by cause of other reasons and/or conditions…it enables one to say NO, more and look after one’s physical health as well as one can…

                • obd, I replied to you but it came out way further up ^ than I expected! Under Paul’s post @ 11:48

                • Just did the same. so posting again.

                  Where do they put the homeless?
                  All the prisons are full.
                  The Police are bastards if they carry out this directive.

                • If we are lucky we’ll be herded into prison ships for being non-complicite in failed governmental social reforms. And if we are unlucky, we’ll be sent to a russian gulag in Northern Siberia.

                • You are Jesting of course; There is no way the ruskies would take on more mouths to feed in there prisons, our sick and disabled simply couldnt dig fast enough. .

                • Pat ato, reply to your comment further up. Yep, their rationale is – we saw the mirrors and now we must lose our eyes as punishment.

                  The big buggeration is, that once you have seen, you can’t un-see, they know that, so we are compelled to pretend.

                  UK in 2014 – A country based on the suspension of disbelief!

                • My JCP already has the smell of sweaty armpits lingering in the fetid air. The causes of the sweaty odour comes from the staff hiding behind their desks.

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  WILL ZYKLON B CIRCULATE AROUND AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM OK?

                • I think my own JCp is already spraying minute droplets of Zyklon B around via the central heating system as every time I have to enter the building I feel sick and dizzy from having to face the desk monkeys…

                • JC+ would find a second, cost justifying use for air conditioning systems as they would be perfect for sending out a fine mist of Zyklon B to add to the fragrance of the JC.

                • GEOFF REYNOLDS

                  From: Jack Chapman

                  23 February 2014

                  Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

                  I note from reading through several requests that the July 2012
                  statistics you released on the deaths of Employment and Support
                  Allowance claimants are at present the last at present that you
                  intend to publish, due to public interest reasons reading between
                  the lines of responses?

                  Can the department advise in relation to those 2012 figures of a
                  breakdown in which illnesses those who died were suffering from
                  whilst claiming Employment and Support Allowance before their
                  deaths?

                  And finally, if the department is not willing or able to produce
                  the figures due to orders from Mr Duncan Smith can the department
                  in the interests of fairness and public interest advise whether
                  those figures have increased year on year since 2011? (A yes or no
                  will suffice)

                  I believe this is in the public interest as the figures were just
                  over 300 in 2010. That was a huge increase to 2011 figures of
                  10,600. Even staying at a constant that is well above 31,000 deaths
                  in total since 2011.

                  Logic would infer that if you fail to respond to this very basic
                  request that the figures have indeed increased, and that you are
                  following Mr Duncan Smith’s orders to keep a lid on the huge
                  increase in the number of deaths of sick and disabled people. You
                  have this opportunity to clear the issue up now, it may even assist
                  if you can honestly say they have decreased, can you? If you aren’t
                  willing to answer then it is clear the figures have increased. And
                  this is not only my opinion, but many others.

                  You hold the figures, it makes sense. 31,000 deaths of one group of
                  people in such a short space of time would be headline news if it
                  were Ukraine. Why can we not know if that is indeed the case here?

                  Jack Chapman

                  Link to this
                  https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/31000_deaths_of_sick_and_disable#incoming-485654

              • Tick that box

          • Knowing the DWP, it’ll be a bit of crusty, mouldy bread on offer.

    • I never thought that i would ever have to say this, but, i am glad that i live in
      the North East.
      We, in our own little way,s are helping each other.
      PS: the system that created homelessness is now trying to blame the homelessness for their own plight.
      Look towards The United States of Europe .

      • OK,hope this doesn’t sound harsh,but,I believe a lot of homelessness is caused by drug and alcohol abuse,saying that though,if someone was to give us some land and make it drug,alcohol and meat free,so we could become self sufficient and grow our own food,I do believe that that is the answer.

        • Oh Really ??? Try telling that to all the dudes made homeless ‘cause of the Bedroom Tax, or the poor dudes wid no pesos ‘Cause of benefit sanctions.
          Or the kids forced to leave home ‘cause they got crazy parents, drunken dads who attack them, etc, or big brothers’ that sex them up, and they gotta get the hell outta there, and there is no one now to help them, because they’re only boys and well, tough for them! Or quite simply, their folks have no money. They have no money, and they can’t stay there anymore.
          Or there may have been a case where two ppl living together have to separate…or ppl have fallen out.
          Or ppl have no work because the NEW NAZI REGIME threw them out of work. And they have no pesos to pay for the house anymore.
          It is a very easy thing to pin the blame all on drugs and drink.
          While that is true in some cases…and indeed, it USED to be true many long moons ago, before the evil satan worshipping great Witch of the East, Thatcher manifested itself, today unfortunately, the reason for folks being homeless are the above reason for many these days.
          Add to that, municipalities have more or less reduced homeless shelters and hostels, and even no longer have them at all….
          Where then, are these ppl supposed to go?
          Instead of police criminalizing everyone, they should be giving them advice on where to find safe places to go. But No!… they steal everything they poor souls have, which in Law, the Police do not have the authority to do. Not any that we are aware of.

          Building little D.I.Y. kit pads is a nice idea, but that isn’t going to help some one walking the streets tonight is it?
          As for growing vegs and so on, again, none of that is of help to the here and now. And not practical in the Downtown of a large metropolitan area like London, or Manchester, or Glasgow.
          I get some of what your are trying to aim at here…”This idea might be a solution” sort of thing, but it does nothing to help folks presently. Besides, if ppls have no pesos because the evil Nazis have taken their monies away, then none what you suggest is going to be of any use to them.

          • A follow up on that.
            As I say. I sort of get some of your ideas about trying to solve the problem, at least to some extent, but as I point out, some of the reasons for ppl being homeless are family related issues, but most these days are due to having no money.
            The point about Johnny Void’s present post, is not the problem of homelessness on its own and remedies, etc, though he does clearly state the main reasons why it is on the increase, which is REGIME policy, etc, but that there really is no place for many ppl to go to just now.
            It is not acceptable in 21st Century UK. This is Thatcher’s Victorian Values in full swing.
            It is a scandal we are allowing Police to treat vulnerable ppl this way. And it has to stop.

        • Try telling that to demobbed soldiers.
          You are living in your own fantasy land.
          I bet, you believe in a god.
          Prove me wrong

  2. Why have you cited an article on destruction of personal property that happened almost a year ago? Not exactly current, is it?!

    • helen
      poverty is still current, been talked about for years…

    • You think anything has changed?

    • Landless Peasant

      An incident of abuse of that magnitude that occurred just a few months ago may well happen again, and so represents a very real and current threat.

    • Helen, when this issue was first reported it was just one borough – Westminster that was doing this to the homeless.

      There are now six boroughs that the metropolitan police intend to extend this action to.

      Six more boroughs of a hellish city where, if you are homeless, the police can not only smash up your few belongings in front of you and steal the remains. Six more boroughs where they can arrest you and cart you off, just for being homeless.

      This is happening now Helen.

  3. I am disgusted that homeless people being treated so badly, just because we have people visiting from other countries, they may put in a lot of revenue, but it’s about time that the got government owned up to the fact it’s them who are making people live this way, they have absolutely nothing to feel proud about.
    Most homeless are the best you could meet, we have one here, he is inoffensive, obeys rules, he will chat if you approach him, he is also educated, but like so so many can’t get his own abode through the rip of from greedy landlords, so help these people, stop ethic cleansing, if visitors don’t like London as it really is, go somewhere else

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  5. Bullah Boris strikes again! In the continuing battle amongst the tories for the title of “Ultimate Bastard”, bojo is currently in the lead.
    Is he callous enough to be the next leader..? It’s hard to tell at the mo’, with Gove ruining children’s education, Hunt ruining healthcare, Osbo trashing the economy and IDS and McVey ruining the world of work… And all lying about their “achievements and legacy”, it’s hard to say which of these sorry bunch will rise to the top of the tory scum pile.
    Who voted these bastards in…? Oh yeah, NO-ONE!
    So, the economic cleansing of London continues, the benefits cap being a major player, now let’s harass all those plebs that we’ve made homeless, and smash up and confiscate their few possessions, including their sleeping bags. It can only lead to hypothermia and death, afterall, and then the NHS can be blamed for not saving enough lives…
    Yet further movement in the big idea of turning London into the playpark of the rich, they’ve already got the big wheel, aerial runway and toy trainset (DLR).
    Well done tories, your brilliance is… Not enough to read by.

    • “They” make the place look untidy.

      Fairly recently there’ve been signs around train stations and other public spaces ‘advising’ people not to give money to “beggars” – we still have this terminology – as “it only encourages them” or “they’ll only fritter away any pennies they get …” – obviously the signs don’t say this. In the same way there could be a ‘Do not feed the pigeon’ sign.

      Will they then criminalise anyone trying to sell the Big Issue (outside Next) – trying being the operative word by forcing them to go somewhere with fewer (no) passers-by/’footfall’ …

      • The big issue is mostly sold (in London) by immigrants arriving with no skills,money or english now,(‘BIG ISSEW PLEEZE’) and these people usually sleep in hostels, so are not considered ‘homeless’. They wouldnt be a target.

        • that’s alright then (hopefully).

          - it’s mostly (& increasingly rarely) sold by people who are very short of money/look very hungry and often exhausted, in a fairly desparate state (without anywhere permanent to stay) where I live (a large city north of Watford, with a diverse population), and the same in other major cities.

  6. Landless Peasant

    Fucking disgusting Tory cunts. I hope there is a second Fire of London.

  7. Landless Peasant

    p.s.
    to the woman who just signed me on at Bradford Westfield House Jobcentre Plus: GET A FUCKING LIFE YOU STUPID FUCKING BITCH.

    • JCP staff are trained to be cunts. They have no compassion for anybody walking through the doors and can treat us unemployed plebs like dirt and easy targets for their widely known sanction regime.

      Applying for work nowadays is like walking through a minefield where you have to tread the ground very carefully. One word out of place to them about your situation and out comes the familiar words ‘We will have to photocopy your job booklet as evidence that you are not doing enough’

      I know on very good authority that if JCP staff do not issue X amounts of sanctions per month, their line managers can refer those under-performing staff for a review of their working practices and tell these staff members to sharpen up in future and try to get as many people as possible onto a sanction. Underhand tactics being used, people, against us. JCP are pressured to issue as many sanctions per month as possible to prevent their own jobs and work practices into question.

      Work programme providers are no different when it comes to achieving set targets. WPP staff are also under pressure from JCP advisors and their own management to try and trip WPP clients up every time. My own so-called WP advisor tries to trap me each week with deliberately designed questions intended to make me say the wrong thing and put in motion a decision referral against my JSA.

      The boot is NOW on the other foot where my WPP and JCP are concerned. I don’t take no s**t from any of them now as they are simply jobsworth twats who blindly take orders through fear of losing their jobs or a fear of them being transferred to lighter duties away from JSA clients.

      There is an heavy air of conspiracy being carried out my JCP staff and WPP staff that they desperately wish us not to find out about. I know too much now about what goes on in these depressing buildings, more than enough to blow the fucking benefit sanction trap scam wide open.

      They can’t shut me up if I decide to go public with their sanction bollocks or claims of un-employment figures going down.

    • Landless, you seem to have an uncanny knack of expressing your views without anger.
      How do you manage to hold back what you actually think.

  8. well, well, well – more evidence that the labour party will only be concerned with reducing ‘the deficit’ and not caring about services here:

    http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/feb/25/labour-chris-leslie-service-cuts-user-friendly

    the labour party if they form the next government will be no different from the current shambles and so homeless people can just go on dying along with the poor and disabled

    • Landless Peasant

      Don’t vote for them then! Vote Green.

      • Another shambolic shower who will expend an awful lot of effort and energy-sorry-on policies that should be thought about when things are not so rough.We need sensible independent people from every borough to represent us, not already indoctrinated clueless career politicians. VOTE INDEPENDENT!
        Sorry. Will try to keep it neutral now.

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  10. MARVELOUS PLACE THE UK, THE PAVEMENTS OF LONDON ARE PAVED WITH GOLD AND THE HALLS OF WESTMINSTER ARE FILLED WITH FUCKING IDIOTS……………….

    IN WHICH OTHER COUNTRY IS IT ILLEGAL TO BE DISABLED, HAVE A SPARE BEDROOM, BE DENIED ACCESS TO COURTS, BE SANCTIONED FOR NOT WORKING FOR FREE, GAGGED FOR SPEAKING, CHARGED £250 TO APPEAL HAVING NO MONEY, FOUND FIT FOR WORK BY AN EX BED PAN WASHER, DENIED ACCESS TO DRUGS AND WELFARE, SHAFTED BY THE QUEEN AND BEATEN AND ROBBED BY THE POLICE?

    THIS PLACE IS DESCENDING INTO A JOKE WHERE THE RICH HAVE DECLARED WAR ON THE POOR.

    …….AND I MEAN WAR!!!!

    TO PUT SOMEONE ON THE STREETS, DEPRIVED OF SHELTER AND FOOD, ONLY TO BE ARRESTED AND HAVE THEIR BELONGINGS TAKEN IS NOT THE ACT OF A MAN, RATHER THAT OF A BIGOT……….

    A PERSON OR PERSONS SO OUT OF TOUCH WITH THE REAL WORLD, THAT WORDS ESCAPE ME.

    SOMEONE SOON IS GOING TO DIE, THOUSANDS ALREADY HAVE. THE GOVERNMENT AND EVERY OFFICE OF THIS RETCHED CAMPAIGN ARE NOTHING SHORT OF NATURAL BORN KILLERS.

    STATISTICS ARE BEING HIDDEN OF THE EXTENT OF THIS BRUTALITY, MORTALITY FIGURES ARE BEING WITHHELD AS THE PUNISHMENT OF THE POOREST AND DISABLED CONTINUES UNCHECKED,

    SOMEWHERE, A PERSON IN A JOB CENTRE IS GOING TO BE SHOT OR STABBED………….

    A BOMB MAY BE TRIGGERED IN A GOVERNMENT BUILDING, A POLICEMAN MAY LOSE HIS LIFE.

    YOU ARE WITNESSING THE EVE OF ONE OF THE MOST DEADLY RIOTS EVER SEEN ON MODERN SOIL.

    THE ARMY MAY BE DRAFTED IN…………. WHO KNOWS?

    ONE THING IS FOR SURE, WE ARE ALL SICK AND TIRED OF THE ELITE FEW BULLYING THE POOR MAJORITY………..

    IF ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY CAN’T COPE NOW, WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE WHEN ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE?

    I AM BEING FORCED TO LIVE ON A PITTANCE OF £32 HAVING A DISABILITY, I KNOW HOW THE MAJORITY FEEL.

    THE WHOLE EPISODE IS BEING ENGINEERED FROM THE TOP, THE LEGACY OF A HATEFUL BASTARD CALLED THATCHER.
    THESE TIN PLATE GODS, HER FOLLOWERS ARE TRYING TO UNLEASH HER DYING WISH ON THE UK……………

    WHO WAS SHE, NOTHING BUT A COMMON GROCERS DAUGHTER WHO IMAGINED SHE WAS SOMEBODY, A FUCKING NOBODY………..

    THE ONLY REASON THE TORY’S PICKED A GROCERS DAUGHTER WAS BECAUSE BETWEEN THEM THEY HAD NOBODY WITH ANY BACKBONE……………

    THEY STILL HAVEN’T. THEY HIDE BEHIND IMMORAL, UNFORGIVABLE TRANCHES OF WORTHLESS WELFARE REFORMS TO ENACT THEIR SAD BOYHOOD FANTASIES OF GRACE AND FAVOUR.

    EVEN DURING THE WARS, THE SO CALLED ELITE OF THIS COUNTRY HID IN BUNKERS AWAY FROM THE REAL FIGHTING, MONOCLED FUCKING IDIOTS SIGNALLING DEATH CHARGES OVER THE TRENCHES INTO ENEMY MACHINE GUN FIRE AND BARBED WIRE.

    COWARDS, THE FUCKING LOT OF THEM, YELLOW FROM THE INSIDE OUT, MUMMY’S BOYS WRAPPED IN LACE TALKING WITH A MOUTH FULL OF MARBLES.

    FUCK EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM, FUCK THE QUEEN AND ALL HER MOLLYCODDLED INBREDS WHO PARASITICALLY SUCK THE BLOOD FROM YOUR TOIL,

    YOU ARE ALL HUMAN BEINGS WORTHY OF A LIFE EQUAL TO ANYONE ELSE………….

    DON’T EVER FORGET THAT……………………..

    I WOULD RATHER BE IN THE COMPANY OF ONE OF MY OWN ANY DAY. WE STAND SHOULDER TO SHOULDER AND HAVE SIMILAR VALUES, THOSE BASTARDS DON’T, WANTING TO GET ONE OVER ON YOU AT EVERY TURN OF THE CARDS.

    GREED IS THEIR ONLY AMBITION, COMING BEFORE ANY KIND OF MORALS OR ETHICS.

    A MILLION DEAD BODIES IS A PRICE WORTH PAYING FOR ACHIEVING THEIR TWISTED AGENDA LAID OUT BY THE LOBBYISTS CONTROLLING THE AGENDA.

    ITS PUT UP OR SHUT UP TIME……………..

    • Geoff, when you sign on for benefits be it JSA or sickness benefit you get a letter through your door telling you that you are being given x amount of money because that is the minimum the government have decided is necessary to maintain yourself and family. They then sanction your benefit and either reduce it to zero or a pittance. So how do the two things tally? Answer? they don’t. So basically the message they’re sending out is piss off and die to everyone they sanction.

      So much for the destroyed welfare state.

      The UK in 2014; an inhumane shit hole.

    • ah but here is the rub, if a jcp worker is assaulted the condems can easily turn it to their advantage and we will be seen as unredeemable savages!

    • Here, here Geoff, You have my vote!!!!

  11. Hell’s teeth, first they sanction people into homelessness than make it illegal to be homeless. Still when the mayor is little more than a obese drunken bore it is hardly surprising. Notice his blond aryan hair conspiracy theorists; we’ll all be herded into camps soon enough via the SS/DWP…

  12. Social Cleansing, just wait till they decide to send people into the disused army camps to get rid of the homeless..

    • Eric,
      Out of sight; out of mind. I hope things don’t get to that stage – though they don’t seem so far off – it doesn’t seem all that unlikely any more.

      • s n
        we’re already there, the complete and utter selfishness of capitalism has taken over the world…..we left with scraps to fight over….we have no access to their designated capital needed to join them, if this is desirable and it is not in any case…capitalism won’t work if (true) wealth is redistributed and stays that way. they’ll always people who believe that they deserve more, and will connive, plot, and scheme, to get it…..the capitalist skills set is very narrow in it’s objective, the only creativity criteria is to make more money/gather/suck up more assets…what’s it worth…what’s the market conditions like….to promote the valuing of human creative wealth in any other way would promote fair shares for all…i believe that all can have creative and fruitful lives, the perma-cultural methodology already exists to allow this to happen…the collective choice is ours…
        we have to stand up to the bullies who stop this happening….those who sign the cheques and gives the nod (policies) to enable our persecution, and pursue the capitalist agendas….and try to convince us we can all be b/millionaires,or if we are not, it is by cause of our lack of morals, as if this is a moral pursuit, it is not…as if money is the true (god/good) one and only passport to the vitals of life, it is plainly not…as is now,present, money the gatekeeper of life who lives who dies….all suffer within this framework…beauty must no longer be stifled by greed…we must be guided by our bodily needs, and our minds will thrive…

  13. Just when I thought I’d seen it all …

  14. MORAL MISSION TO HELP THE POOR?

    And if you’re down and out in Glasgow, the squalid conditions in the “Bellgrove Hotel” provide £1.5 million in Housing Benefit payments for its private owners:

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/daily-records-investigation-slum-conditions-3180750

    Meanwhile, here is one Tory MP, a property owning tycoon, who is raking in £625,000 a year in Housing Benefit payments:

    http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/revealed-britains-richest-tory-mp-3177996

    And he is not the only one…

  15. They don,t want it on their door steps They caused it but they can,t cope with the guilt of causing this misery.

    • something survived...

      (From an appeal by Shelter:)
      What would you say if you answered the phone and the first thing the caller said was: ‘I’m calling for myself, my partner and my newborn child. We had to sleep in a park last night. Will you help me?’
      ———–
      Unfortunately, they got through to Ian Duncan Smith.
      And he said, “Fuck off and die.”

  16. Reblogged this on Jay's Journal and commented:
    So it they arrest the homeless, where are the true criminals going to go? If the homeless get put into prison or a jail cell for a few weeks/months, then they are getting fed and being kept warm.
    This government sicken me to the core, but the people of this country sicken me more for allowing all of this to have happened/happen – just what are WE doing about it!

    • My thoughts too jaypot, I for one will gladly make a stand against these evil bastards, who on here will join me? We are going to be driven to death anyway, lets fight, who is with me?

      • If I openly fight my lame JCP or WPP whilst in their premises, I will end up on a three-month JSA sanction for being labelled as a trouble-maker. I fight them on other levels which remain as a secret of which only I know how to do so.

    • the true criminals are running the country and atos, Jaypot.

    • everything must come to a head sometime, don’t forget the slight hope of the UN report next month, and the rich will be feeling it soon because they need and have always needed the working class in many ways, and don’t forget there are only a certain amount of places in prison and the public interest lawyers will be all over this like a rash. HOPEFULLY!!!!!

  17. I observed today, whilst my soul was rotting away in my JCP, that two of the four phone points (used by us JSA plebs) have been removed and not replaced. It seems that my pissy JCP has got a secret agenda to stop people making telephone inquiries or from making new claims by phone and want to get everyone online regarding new or existing claim inquiries.

    Has any other JCP up and down the land also done away with some or all of the client-user telephone points or is it simply my JCP being arrogant in slowly removing the easiest option of getting help and advice over benefit claims?

    • Yes it is soul rotting at the jcp AWP

      narcissists are good a that, soul robbery!

      It seems this rank rotten government is hell bent on making the poor and disabled people of this country homeless. More people are loosing their homes every day because of these insidious cuts and abolished benefits. So when people loose everything they can be chucked out on to the street, where some authoritarian coppers can come along and extinguish the last of their belongings then. Fucking charming! This wicked regime want the poor out on the streets, ready for disposal of the last of their belongings and seeing them with nothing!! They do not want the poor to have anything!

      This selfish Tory government do not give a fuck about young people who are vulnerable and who barely stand a chance in life. What if some young people do not have parents who care about them? or have abusive parents, who they are trying to get away from. What happens to these young adults if they end up homeless through a sanction and there is no kind parent opening a door for them? What happens if they are cold and alone on a street corner, and some arrogant nasty copper comes along and gets rid of their clothes and blankets?

      Where is the help for these abused people? This vile ignorant government are abusing them all over again!

      • This country will suffer worse Jasmine, look at tourism, who will want to come to this country when they will encounter the victims of the state on the streets and most likely on the beaches, especially in the summer. I ask you who will want to holiday where they may encounter hoards of hungry displaced people. The whole economy will flat line because it is well known that the poorest people are the ones who spend money here, the rich go abroad.
        There is no such thing as logic in government anymore and historically it has never worked well.

        • I do hope something will change soon joanna, My son has a friend who was made homeless this summer, she is only 20 and her mother is a nasty piece of work. Kicked her out and was abusive. The girl was in a bad way, but my son and I helped her. The Ymca found her a room, but its not good. She is really struggling to survive, goes to food bank to eat. She has not had heating or electric this week. This nasty Gov need to recognise not everyone goes to Eton for their education and gets a country manor house from inheritance.

          • something survived...

            Loads of homeless are ex-army.

            My JCP has been discontinuing the phones and threatening people for using them, telling them to use the payphones in the street (few in number, all pissed-in, all vandalised). Including people needing to call cause they have no money. if you call a LANDLINE from a payphone it’s 60p even if you don’t get through. Machines eat your money. assuming you had any money. If you own a mobile and can’t afford credit, and have no electricity to recharge it…. And they say you are not allowed to make or receive calls on a mobile in the Jobcentre. If your mobile goes off, Pigface lumbers in and throws you out. Even if you were on the jobcentre phone calling about help with benefits. Even if you were on the jobpoint or computer looking at jobs as part of your mandated jobsearch activity. Even if you were in the queue to sign on; Pigface then has them put down that you did not attend! And sanctions you. Even if it was your kid or parent sick, or the hospital about a relative/spouse, or an important business call. Even if it was a call from a potential employer offering you a job interview or a job!
            Yet the fucking signs everywhere tell you to call the jobcentre etc. to do everything! and if you can’t speak/hear properly? or dial a number?

            • So, it’s not only my twatting JCP doing away with the customer phone points then and forcing everybody on benefits into making new claims or existing claim enquiries on their dodgy website. The fucking system stinks as far as I am concerned. Before long, I can see 1000s of people getting sanctions for refusing to use a computer just to do jobsearch or refusing to make an online claim.

              The entire DWP system is corrupt and only getting worse day by day under the failed policies of the bald-headed ‘I Dick Shit’. it is clear that they do not want anybody having a benefit claim whatsoever, either JSA or disability claim. We just have to look at the ATOS scandal to see what is going wrong within the current policy.

              We should petition the DWP to sack the incompetent hairy ape smithy before he is instrumental in all of our deaths by benefit refusal.

              Tory toff Peter Bone is under police investigation for benefit fraud relating to his mother-in-law. So how the fuck can the nasty party wage a war against all benefit claimants for attempting to fiddle the system when under their own FUCKING noses they are fiddling the system themselves.

              It’s one rule for them, with silver spoons up their jacksies and another rule for the less-well off in this country. This is now the official line we get from the nazi party – ”I’m all right jack, but fuck the voters if they want help. They simply won’t get the real help they are crying out for, we are just feathering our own nests with the taxes and benefits we steal from the voters”

              The DWP are thieves and crooks. And until they get rid of the biggest conman ever to walk the earth, life for us won’t be worth living. They will simply drive us into an early grave for being vicious against us.

          • Apart from helping out it does feel good to soothe somebody’s soul! I suspect there are some more good people like you, but understandably they are getting too scared to intervene, good on you Jasmine. What I don’t understand about the housing problem is, next door to me is a 2 bedroomed flat, it has been empty for 3 years when your deserving friends are suffering!

          • jasmine
            why are they going to recognize our needs….toffs are in control, parliament is the new lords….the lords reform was a sideways shift to entrench their powers, shall we plead with them…the revolution will not be televised…well there might be snippets…they caused the havoc reigned upon…deliberately…

      • ‘The work you want; the help you need’ – proclaims a big green poster at the reception desk in my JCP.

        The reality is, there is 2 million + out of work and only 500,000 vacancies so where is the work you want as is claimed by these liars. The help you expect from them is no more than 2 years on failed work programme providers only in business for themselves and large pay bonuses if a WP client lands a job through them, or the JCP help on offer is a constant threat of illegal sanction and the smug response ‘See you again in two weeks’

        Makes me sick how these DWP fantasies claim to be doing good for the wider population struggling against a tide of government denial and ignorance.

        • Common Sense tells us there arent 500000 real vacancies, or there would only be 1500000 unemployed. I have gone to some pretty extreme measures in the past, including cycling 12 miles each way to a single days heavy manual work because it was £8.80 an hour. I’m fucked if I would do it for £6.50 though. If one employer can afford it so can the rest and bollox to it!

    • @ AWP – A whistleblowing Jobcentre manager has told former Work and Pensions Secretary Peter Hain that the removal of helpline phones for the use of claimants will cause serious difficulties for the most vulnerable people in Britain.

      The manager contacted Mr Hain after he expressed concern in the Western Mail and then the House of Commons about the planned removal of phones from the Jobcentre serving his Neath constituents.

      It emerged that the move was part of a nationwide strategy approved by current Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith.

      In an email to Mr Hain the Jobcentre manager, who has asked not to be identified, stated: “I have grave concerns about the upcoming ‘digitilisation’ of [my Jobcentre].

      “In essence, this means the removal of all the free phones for customers to contact the benefit centres when they have problems with their money.

      “We currently have [a number of] phones which are used constantly throughout the day. The calls could be about [a range of benefits for the unemployed, the disabled and the low paid].

      “All of these numbers are [premium rate] 0845 numbers, and customers would prefer to spend time and money to come down to the Jobcentre, as the cost of 0845 numbers can be very expensive. And remember, the reason for these calls is ‘I haven’t received my money’.”

      The manager says the line being used by the Department for Work and Pensions to placate claimants and politicians is that staff will be available locally to help people access benefit centres by computer, and if necessary to phone the relevant centre. However, says the manager, there has been no staffing increase to cope with this.

      “On many days there is only one or two staff available to deal with benefit enquiries for vulnerable customers,” says the manager. “This will not increase, and therefore we will have two staff expected to deal with 200 to 300 enquiries per day. Each one takes at the least five minutes, so you can see it just doesn’t add up.

      “The assumption is that people will phone from home, but what seems to be being ignored is that they can’t afford to. I feel this is going to lead to problems… and put vulnerable customers in a very difficult position.”

      Mr Hain said: “This insider blows the gaff on claims that this whole procedure is about modernisation. It shows that cost-cutting has got to such a manic level that people will simply be prevented from accessing the kind of advice and assistance they need to get and are entitled to.

      “The benefits system is a nightmarish one of complexity and ambiguity. If you deprive claimants of person-to-person contact and force everyone to go online, it’s a recipe for disaster.

      “There are fewer and fewer staff to deal even with those claimants able to go online, while there are many especially older clients who are not.

      “This proves what I have felt for a long time – that it’s all about cuts and absolutely nothing to do with creating a better or fairer system. The consequence will be increased misery, with people finding it more difficult to get their benefits restored when they have been cut off as a result of some error.

      These changes are dictated by adherence to a tick-box culture, and take no account of the human element.”

      A DWP spokesman said: “We have adequate staff to deal with the level of enquiries we receive at our Jobcentres and, as part of our changes, we’re making sure claimants have more information up front, which reduces their need to get in touch with us for more general information during their claim.

      “The DWP does not earn any revenue from 0845 numbers, and we have already made a commitment to introduce 03 numbers, which may be less expensive under certain phone contracts.

      “We work hard to identify vulnerable people using Jobcentre facilities, so they can be offered the most appropriate form of help and, if required, we can look to resolve their enquiry through a face-to-face appointment at one of our offices.”

      • something survived...

        It emerged that the move to kill everyone poor and sit laughing on the top of a mountain of their bodies was part of a nationwide strategy approved by current Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith.

      • That makes sense to me that the hairy ape smithy is waging war against is simply because we are unable to pay his wages (via taxation) if we are currently out of work.

        • awp
          yes, and keep them in a lifestyle that they are accustomed to and they freely admit to this, as a justification for keeping it, we are deserved they claim, the capitalist master race….and believe because/as they were born into this lifestyle that they are entitled to keep it, it was ordained to them…and we should pay for it or they will suffer, as they are not born/used to suffering, as are we…

    • ‘@AWP, my jcp has 2 phones and we are told that these will be removed soon. To make way for more computers.

      • It won’t be long before the remaining two phones (previously four of them ) and all the jobpoints get removed from my JCP. Anyone wanting to make a new claim or check an existing one will be told to use a public access computer no doubt.

        The public access computers (internet terminals) in my jcp are very slow and constantly prone to crashing the website. Is this the future that the DWP drones are promoting, by making it impossible to get any help at all now and make everyone destitute and homeless if people haven’t got a job?

        The lies –

        * Jobcentre Plus (The work you want, the help you need)…

        The truth –
        Jobcentre Minus (The work you won’t get, the help you won’t get)

  18. “In the meantime, the amount of companies that are financially connected to MPs and Lords who have gone on to gain contracts in the new NHS continues to increase and the question is, who do our parliamentarians serve?”

    http://socialinvestigations.blogspot.de/2014/02/non-executive-director-nadhim-zahawis.html?showComment=1393364971806#c5385205606895083121

  19. Welcome to 21st century Britain where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer…

    http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/queen-prince-charles-cash-tens-3180813

    • oh dear not the queen. Geoff will have something to say about this, I am sure. wait for it.

    • I don’t see the problem here. I think it is a non story and at first hand gives impression ther Royals are charging huge rents. If that was the case it would a news item, but it is merely a case of them renting properties to plebs on benefits.
      Most folks who Housing Benefit, don’t actually receive in their hands.
      It mostly goes direct to the landlord, be it a council or housing association, or in this case a “private” landlord.
      And Housing Benefit is paid by the local councils not DWP.

      While I am utterly contemptuous of the Queen of England, (always use the Americanism here) who just sits back and signs into law every Anti-Poor Law put before her by the SS Party of D.Cameron, and “ids”
      I would say this particular Mirror item is misplaced. I think it is rather unfair.
      Maybe it’s the paper trying to tie the Royals in with the REGIME in anyway they can, but in this instance….. if fails badly….unless they can prove the rents are too high or the properties are not worth a dime, etc, the story fails !
      They would be better focusing on the fact the Hanoverian monarch signs off on all those 21ST century Poor laws. And asking…actually DEMANDING WHY ? Doesn’t she know what’s happening? Has she no powers to stop what’s happening. What then the point of her being there?

      • I can’t figure out what law allows London Police Department to just take ppl’s possessions from them.
        Where in English Law do any police have that power?
        Is that not something Called “THEFT” ?
        And this is designed to discourage homeless ppl from sleeping on the streets. Well…where are they supposed to go then?
        If the Police want to be of use to asociety, they could advise the homeless of night shelters, etc.
        But of course since the days of Thatcher, there ain’t any shelters left, or very few, and not to be found in Westminster City
        So…where then is “Red Ed” ? Where are all these politicians who are supposed to defend the “People” ?
        This is the kind of thing the ppl of Ukraine have risen up against.
        This is the kind of thing we expect from paces like Syria and such like places.
        But of course the London City establishment are a Law unto themselves.
        Their class war is in full gear.
        This is what Thatcher meant when she spoke about Victorian Values.
        This is the landed gentry system in full flow. England especially has never gotten away from this system, and so we see the results today of those who either aspire to be part of it, plebs like “ids” and his side kick McVey, or those who are the Gentry like Osborne lording over them.

        But none of that give Police the powers in Law to take away ppl’s only possessions, especially if it is life or death items, like sleeping bags and food, and even any mobile phones they don’t happen to have in their hand. That actually happened last May, and was reported in a newspaper in the London area.

        ( – From the Independent online edition. May 24th 2013 by Oliver Duggan – )

        Police seize possessions of rough sleepers in crackdown on homelessness

        Police in north London have seized blankets, sleeping bags and food donations from rough sleepers in a crackdown on homelessness.

        A local paper reported that the belongings, mostly donated by sympathetic members of the community, were snatched by police from a group of homeless people as they sheltered in an abandoned public baths for the night.
        The nine people, including a man in his sixties, were seeking cover from a cold night in Redbridge and were left stunned when their worldly possessions disappeared into the back of a police car.
        One of the men targeted in the action, Adam Jaskowiak, pleaded with officers to be allowed to keep his possessions for warmth. The 34-year-old said: “They [the police officers] were just taking the sleeping bags and chucking out everything. I asked to keep it, and the food, but they said ‘No’.
        “I just grabbed as many of my things as possible and put them into a bag and ran.”
        Police later confirmed that the shocking intervention was part of a co-ordinated effort to “reduce the negative impact of rough sleepers”.
        Chief Inspector John Fish told the Ilford Recorder: “The public rely on the police to reduce the negative impact; this includes the need for us to assist in the removal of tents and bedding from public spaces and other inappropriate locations.”
        In response, Joanne McCartney, chair of the Police and Crime Committee at the Greater London Assembly, has written to the Metropolitan Police Commissioner asking for an explanation for the seizure.
        Her letter, seen by The Independent, raises doubts over the legality of the police’s approach and asks Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe on whose authority the officers acted.
        “These are the most vulnerable people in society and they have to be offered assistance,” Mrs McCartney said. “To take someone’s only source of food and warmth seems to be extremely draconian and misguided to say the least.”
        The move has also sparked outrage from the voluntary sector. Rita Chadha, head of the Refugee and Migrant Forum of East London, said the move was dangerous as well as confusing. “We are going through one of the coldest summers we have ever had, it’s a strong possibility that someone could die,” she said.

        There was a story last year February reprting a homeless guy died of cold because Police in Southern England wouldn’t allow him to sleep in an old disused shed of a thing. That would/ve been “trespassing” he was warned.

        Police are entitled to move folks along if the think they are being a “nuisance”. That has always been the case. But they don’t have the legal right to STEAL off ppl.
        Except perhaps in the BORISVILLE.

        • gordon what gives a jc advisor the right to fine you “sanctions” and to give you communty service “workfare” because “they can”! with no charge no trail no evidence etc..so fuck knows what the coppers “can and cant do”

        • They started the ball rolling by making squatting illegal!!!

        • Gordan, you are not allowed to be an ingalander you are now an EU citizen.

      • I have been asking this for so long Gordon, but what I don’t understand is why she has given her royal assent for many these destructive acts? maybe I just don’t know much, to tell the truth life is getting so bad I don’t want to know I am just trying to hold on to the tiny shred of will to live, and I am not alone in that!

        • I don’t understand it either Joanna. She signed off the Welfare Reform Bill without hesitation and she would have known the effect it would have on the poorest people of this country. She could have refused to sign it.

          But why would she? All the reforms under the coalition have been about hammering the poor and removing their meagre social security benefits and giving epic contracts to chums of the government. Chums who she may well be chums with too. She wouldn’t want her chums inconvenienced by perhaps making even one million pounds less profit a year.

          She and her family have long been known as some of the worst and parsimonious landlords. Not that far from me is an entire village owned by Prince Charles. Back in the 80s, I knew someone who lived and worked in that village. The rents were ridiculously high for “tied” cottages, the cottages were cold, leaky, damp and needed rewiring. Charles wouldn’t pay for any repair works to be done until they threatened the fabric of any dwelling. He wouldn’t permit any of his tenants to do the repairs themselves either. Rents went up every year.

          Prince Charles? Prince Rachman more like.

  20. I SHOULD’VE NOTED THIS LAST PART IS NOT IN THE INDEPENDENT NEWS ITEM………………………….

    There was a story last year February reprting a homeless guy died of cold because Police in Southern England wouldn’t allow him to sleep in an old disused shed of a thing. That would/ve been “trespassing” he was warned.

    Police are entitled to move folks along if the think they are being a “nuisance”. That has always been the case. But they don’t have the legal right to STEAL off ppl.
    Except perhaps in the BORISVILLE.

  21. Are they going to try and consider sleeping bags etc. as litter, or as a health and safety ‘issue’ – they’ll be able to come up with something to justify it & this is a new low.

    (You can’t just sleep anywhere eg. a bus station/pavement (?) or library)? – you have to be sitting up and preferably with eyes wide open, looking interested in something (anything) – or you’re breaking all sorts of (?written/unspoken) rules but this takes things to a whole new (extreme) level.

  22. @ Shirley – maybe instead of begging passers by for loose change you have to be begging them for employment and fill in a homeless jobseekers diary on part of your home ie your cardboard box.

  23. Robin The Boy Wonder

    Not enough people care in England any more…. A lot of those in work will say of the poor sods who have fallen victim to Duncan Smith: ‘Not bothered! It doesn’t affect me!’. I have heard this so many times….

    Also civil servants (like Job Centre staff) will obey any order (no matter how despicable!) and dish out any shit by whoever is in power, just to protect their own positions ( but to hell with humanity!).

    Plenty of those in long term employment will also swallow the shite the Daily Heil and Express churn out. A lot will believe that anyone who is on any kind of welfare (or is homeless) is a scrounger and a hinderance… And crappy TV shows like Benefits Street don’t help either… It’s like they are treating the unemployed and sick like a circus freak show!

    There are also no communities any more. We moved into our house in 1977: and we know our neighbours (those who are still around) from that time, and also those from the 1980s. But any ‘new neighbour’ from the 90s onwards just isn’t arsed, and they don’t speak to anyone…. This ‘Don’t get involved/It doesn’t affect me/I’m alright,Jack’ attitude has blighted England for years now. Now people are being shafted and suffering, and so many just do not give a toss…. My auntie told me that England wasn’t a selfish place in the old days (From the blitz, right up to the 1980s, people were bothered about each other). But I’m sorry to say it is now…

    No-one’s frightened of playing it
    Everyone’s saying it
    Flowing more freely than wine
    All through your life
    I Me Mine

    • I can’t wait until the day it will affect them, they will be so blindsided that they will be asking others for help, and guess what, no-one will be there to help!

    • The JCP have to obey instructions to the letter as issued by the great hairy ape smithy otherwise they would all be out of work and having to sign-on themselves.

      They should be reminded that only fools blindly follow their leader like brain-washed puppets. JCP have no compassion for anybody not part of their staff or PCS union. They are manipulated and bullied into creating a culture of fear, mis-trust and contempt for anybody walking in off the street into their controlled environment.

      If they don’t follow like sheep, they are referred to their line manager and made to explain under threat of losing part of their pay packet or not getting a gold star as to why they haven’t issued X amount of sanctions for a particular month or why they haven’t forced someone into using UJM and been given access to someone’s UJM account.

  24. something survived...

    Possessions includes obvious things like clothes, tent, food etc. But it probably covers everything else; wallet, ID, money, medication, bible, rosary, photograph of loved one…. books. Documents. letter confirming entitlement to benefits.

    What the fuck!?

  25. Throughout UK history there have been laws that targetted vagrants, beggars and people without money, putting them into debtors prison. They just went out of use in recent history.

    But London can afford to build more hostels to house the homeless or change the use of current buildings into hostels.

    The FT Weekend Saturday Feb 22 says even London’s high earners face a London lockout for rental or outright purchase of properties. With up to 34 per cent of resales going to foreign investors in the buy to let business, with 3 out of 4 sales of new build homes in central London going to international buyers.

    FT said that by 2012 an average home in large parts of London had become unaffordable to families taking home £45,000 after tax.Affordability is set at the officially recognised threshold of 35 per cent of net income of peoples’ salary.

    This at a time when this 2015-2016 council budgets have lost the hardship fund called the Local Welfare Assistance Fund , which is funny as this paid for food and shelter for people facing immediate problems such as being flooded out of their homes.

    As a third of Londoners are within the working poor, suffering flat-lined wages, frozen in-work benefits for next three years and capped housing benefit in a city with massive rents, then London as more than enough funds to government to build sufficient social homeless hostels, or pay charities to provide same.

    But none of the current political class offers anything to the working poor, unemployed, disabled, chronic sick, women within working poor lost state pension payout at 60, millions losing all state pension forever from the Flat Rate Pension from 2016, current pensioners. https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/state-pension-at-60-now

    The recently relaunched communists, Left Unity Party, offers something to the working poor, but not if you are a woman aged 60 or a man aged 65 or a current pensioner on a state pension, the lowest in the developed world at only 30% of average wages. Without benefits you cannot access Cold Weather Payments. Without state pension you cannot access Winter Fuel Allowance. Both of these benefits are about to be lost to all anyway.

    You don’t need money to help start a whole new way of doing politics as well as new party to rid the nation of Austerity and Welfare Reform that threatens peoples’ lives in one of the richest nations in the world, and to save the nation from our current political class dragging us into a national debt as bad as the Weimar Republic just to spend the money to ensure the majority of us starve.

    Help start The Swans that will pay off national debt yet leave absolutely no-one to starve of all ages, cap social rents, house the homeless:
    http://www.theswansnewparty.org.uk

  26. this is a restart of the vangracy laws if your found to have less than 5 qiud on you or at least that was the law,then you could be held for 48 hours,i know cause i was homeless on the street in the 90,s a wiley elder told me to always keep a fiver hid on you

  27. i was sleeping rough in north wales about 10 or so years ago i couldnt get into a hostle,2 pcso,s kicked me then took my sleeping bag and medication away and just left me with nothing,i managed to get into a homeless hostel a few days later,they let me ring the police to complain,they told me that they had no “evidence” to regarding the incident and to basically fuck off,ever since ive lost all faith in the police and believe me i wasnt drunk or causing a problem i was under a tree to keep dry,it was november,if you ever think “it cant happen” trust me it does…and the irony i was about to beomce a copper before i became ill

  28. I told you this would happen last fucking year, they’ve been privatising the prisons on the sly for the past 6 fucking years in preparation for the enslvement of these people, if you want to opt out, they taking away that option, they want to lock us up and force us to work for a system that is killing and enslaving us…it IS INSANE

    They are going to make a lot of money out of crime by creating a criminal underclass out of the poor and working classes.

    Prisons should NEVER be a private venture, it is societies fianancial responsibility, else society will never make the changes necessary to lessen crime, society can have no effect or responsibilty now, so DON’T ever expect crime rates to improve, they NEVER will now it’s in the hands of private business that needs a steady supply of criminals.

    We have to STOP the NAZI CRIMINALS NOW, before it’s too late

  29. Ed Miliband has the easiest job in the country. He gets paid for doing fuck all, all day. There would have been a time when labour MPs would be making a noise about this. Not anymore. Miliband’s largesse has enticed all labour MPs into sleep mode. They presumably think they have already won the next election whereupon they can enact their brand of fascism.

    There are people who vote labour, who claim to be labour supporter who actually think labour will be different – will be better, more humane – what a larf!!!!!!!!!!

    • Who else do we vote for? UKIP are even worse then what we have already, and the TUSC are too small to get enough votes to make a difference.

  30. It’s unbelievable the way things have become and are going in this country! People are literally being slaughtered by this tyrannical government.

    I was just reading this interesting article;

    http://www.eurorights.org.uk/post/52074034699/eurorights-blog-austerity-welfare-reform-and-human

  31. It’s unbelievable the way things have become and are going in this country! People are literally being slaughtered by this tyrannical government.

    I was just reading this interesting article;

    http://www.eurorights.org.uk/post/52074034699/eurorights-blog-austerity-welfare-reform-and-human

  32. The Tories go on about “something for nothing” and “skivers” and demonize people on welfare all the while ignoring blatant profiteering by people like this (see link)

    Blatant hypocrisy? I’ll let you folks be the judge of that.

    http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk/2014/02/richard-benyon-housing-benefit-hypocrisy.html

    • One of their minions has been caught fiddling the benefit system for his mother-in-law. They have no moral high-ground to complain we, un-employed, are at it like thieves when their own house is in a complete cock-up

  33. I had an interesting letter posted to me today from the Conservatives and signed by Herr David Camoron.

    They only want to try and make me apply for a postal vote and get me to vote in or out on the 2017 EU Referendum.

    Not on my watch, Davey boy, and not bloody likely after you shoved me onto the failed work programme under the pretence of being un-employed through fault of my own. The only vote I will sign is for your resignation along with the pretty boy smithy as well for making me depressed and angry against your failed social reforms.

  34. not directly on topic – As Joe Halewood writes on his blog, we can actually appeal bedroom tax decisions from LAST YEAR (although time is running out for that). Does anyone with proper knowledge about such things know if when we win an appeal from last year, we can reclaim all the extra we paid in rent for that time?

  35. Where are the LibDems they seem totally complicit with these natsy party measures. They are a disgrace and I’m sure they’ll pay next year when they disappear into oblivion. They are as much use as a chocolate poker.

  36. Funny thing, as in strange, not funny ha ha; I was reading on the ‘UK Uncut’ site at the most over the top tax dodgers and it’s a proven fact that if the loopholes were closed off that allow these organisations and individuals to avoid paying their proper share of tax then that would easily wipe out the deficit caused by the banking crisis.

    Now this could be done without anyone having to lose benefits and without anyone facing the threat of losing their home etc. That’s what makes this austerity drive all the more enraging, there is no reason that it has to be so.

    The fact that these steps have not been taken proves conclusively and beyond any doubt whatsoever that this is an ideologically driven austerity campaign for the simple fact that the Tories hate the poor and anyone on benefits.

  37. Another Fine Mess

    Homeless living in shocking, rat-infested conditions, report says
    http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/feb/26/homeless-shocking-rat-infested-conditions

  38. “DWP DISABILITY DISCRIMINATION”

    HOW TO HARRASS AND SANCTION A DISABLED PERSON USING CURRENT LEGISLATION…….

    There is no indication that people over 50 or
    over 60, including thos
    e with degenerative or age-
    related conditions should be reassessed mo
    re or less often than others. Healthcare
    Professionals (HCPs) give advice on when an i
    ndividual should be reassessed – this “prognosis
    advice” can be 3, 6, 12, 18 months, 2 years or
    in the longer term. DWP Decision Makers
    consider the HCP’s recommendation and take into a
    ccount all available evidence, including that
    from appeals when deciding when an individual s
    hould be re-assessed and this may vary from 3
    months to a maximum of 3 years.

    Yours sincerely
    J Duffy
    Business Management Team
    Health & Disability Assessments (Operations)
    dwp.medicalservicescorrespondence@dwp.gsi.gov.uk

    …………..I WONDER HOW MANY THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS KILLED ALREADY?

  39. 26 February 2014

    Dear Department for Work and Pensions,

    You may be aware that it has been recently reported that
    Conservative MP, Peter Bone, is alleged to have been linked to
    fraudulent benefits activity.

    Could the department advise if it is aware of any other current
    sitting MP who is facing fraud investigations by the department? If
    so, can the department advise how many alleged fraudulent benefits
    claimants there are currently within the ranks of “honourable” and
    “right honourable” members?

    Obviously you would not be able to give names, however the general
    population is often given a twisted sense of levels of fraud so it
    would be in the public interest to know the true levels of fraud
    within the ranks of MPs. This would obviously have to take into
    account their fraudulent expenses claims also, which I know you do
    not deal with. But together give a good idea of the % of criminally
    minded within the commons as compared to the general population.

    Thank you in advance

    Yours faithfully,

    Jack Chapman

    Link to this
    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/peter_bone_and_other_mps_alleged#incoming-487134

  40. Another Fine Mess

    Ofcom to investigate Benefits St. after 2000 complaints.

  41. @ Geoff – Toddy has a proper marriage ie for love. Meanwhile the government’s not so good at catching the criminals who set up fake marriages between foreigners and UK citizens in order to get them British passports. Perhaps you and Toddy and your families should move to Scotland before that also becomes an emigration/immigration issue. The Scottish government has its faults, but it cannot be worse than the UK one.

  42. Fellow JCP Sufferer/Customer

    Bids of over two and a half million. Why didn’t Toddy and his wife think of that?

  43. Actually this situ would resolve itself if all the beggars in the country moved to those 6 districts because they would have to roof, process and feed them. It costs a fortune to keep people in prison so another solution would have to be sought.

  44. This is a manifestation of the economic boom we are all enjoying as a result of unlimited immigration?

    • Ah well, most on here tend to avoid the ‘I’ word.
      I will not. Many immigrants with bugger all skills in london are on £35 a day cash.
      I know, because my landlord is employing lots of them then charging them £65 a week each to share a 10′ by 10′ room. They get no stamps or tax paid, but do not realise this is a problem later.
      They all complain life is so hard.
      Immigration levels are crucifying the poor and putting massive strains on
      infrastructure whilst spoon feeding the rich.

  45. I have recently made my Universalfakematch CV private, in a strong protest movement, against that dodgy website carrying fake jobs from fake recruitment agencies. I have even mentioned this is in a strong complaint to them stating their are freely carrying mis-leading job adverts and that because of this my CV has gone private until further notice.

    Let’s see what they do, if they actually have the balls to take action and remove any job link that is misleading. Somehow, I don’t think they will do something about the 1000s of spam jobs all identical except for just the posting dates and the reference codes,

    Searchjobvacancies spammed UJM with the same vacancy description under at least three different job titles – ‘shop staff; sales staff, cafe assistant’. But since that mentioned website no longer exists, x-jobs.com have been seen carrying the exact identical spam job vacancies. Both these scams websites are linked to the same postal mail drop in Glasgow and both have been seen using the same servers based in Scottsdale, USA.

    I also mentioned to UFM that they should look at the jobs categories page on the new spam website as it uses the American spelling for ‘transport’ and also for ‘Labour’. You can’t tell me that this is a British website, based here on a UK server and is carrying real sales vacancies.

    Things to look out for if you suspect a spam website on UJM –

    * Server location
    * Postal mail drop, is it identical to another spam website
    * Postal mail drop in a different country to server certificate location
    * Domain ending in .com
    * The use of American spelling anywhere on the website
    * Register and Apply process
    * Only one job is ever advertised on that website
    * Countless identical jobs spammed on UJM from that particular website

    • This is an add from UJM from summer of 2012.
      I showed it to JobCenter staff at the time. Even they were amused!
      Obviously went to wrong place wid this one. Think it was meant for Bronx, NY
      Or perhaps Union City. NJ across the river!!
      OFFICE CLEANING-PART TIME
      Glasgow
      · SaveSaved
      · Get email alerts
      · Share
      · Report
      Reply to this ad
      · Contract type
      Temporary
      We are looking to hire experienced office cleaners to work at our customer’s retail facilities . Duties include daily, Monday to Friday, dusting of customer’s showroom equipment, sweeping, mopping, vacuuming of carpeted areas, restroom cleaning and trash removal. The rate is $12.00 per hour per location.

      The location will take up to 2 hours to clean and cleaning time is 7:30 pm to 9:30 pm
      . Must have legal working documents and able to pass a criminal background check.

      Send inquiry and request for an application
      · Ad ref 107055788
      · Posted 9 days ago
      · Posting ads since July 2012
      Reply to this ad

    • The strange thing is, if you just go through the motions and apply for some of the jobs that look roughly like what you do (omitting a phone number and home address from your c.v. of course, as this is what the scammers/crap agencies want) you never hear anything back and it makes you look good. Your ‘Advisor’ has such a shit time anyway they will leave you be, unless you get a particularly toxic one.
      The c.v. library jobs are kosher, but dont show up when you apply so register with them then you will get ‘one click apply’ and a confirmation email you can print off. The jobs they send to you and one click means you can apply for 3 reasonable jobs a week without even searching.

    • BTW, most jobs advertised with a protracted unheard of web based application form are indeed data mining sites that just sell your information. They advertise an unskilled job on jobmatch in every area then watch 200k peoples info role in.

  46. Ha ha ha ha. The fuckface IDS has been given a humiliating slap in the face over his definition of poverty and also that of the tory twats failing to agree on re-considering what actually constitutes poverty –

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10664045/Government-fails-to-agree-on-child-poverty-redefinition.html

  47. SO IAIN DRUNKEN SMITH INTENDS TO HELP COMBAT CHILD POVERTY BY RE DEFINING HOW IT IS EVALUATED?

    BY CHANGING THE GOALPOSTS IT WILL TACKLE THE ISSUE HEAD ON AND CHILDREN ACROSS THE LAND WILL HAVE BIG FAT TUMMIES AND BEAMING SMILES…………………

    “WHAT A FUCKING HYPOCRITE, THIS BUMBLING BAG OF SHIT, REALLY IS”
    HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU REPLACE THE AMOUNT OF INCOME A FAMILY RECEIVES, TO DETERMINE POVERTY LEVELS, WITH ANYTHING ELSE?

    TORY CLAPTRAP IS BEYOND BELIEF!

    MAYBE HE INTENDS TO CHANGE HOW CHILDHOOD POVERTY IS PERCEIVED BY USING HEIGHT CHARTS, COLOUR OF HAIR OR ABILITY TO FEED A FUCKING HAMSTER!!!!

    WE ARE GOVERNED BY GORMLESS CRETINS WHO, RATHER THAN ADDRESS AN ISSUE, SEEK TO HIDE IT AWAY……………..

    THE UK GOVERNMENT UTILISE THE OFFICE OF NATIONAL STATISTICS TO TRY AND CONVINCE ONE AND ALL, BLACK IS WHITE.

    THEY MIGHT AS WELL USE THE MINISTRY OF FUCKING, SILLY WALKS BECAUSE THE STATISTICS ARE SO BIASED TO MAKE YOU LAUGH.

    R.P.I., C.P..I. THEY WILL USE WHATEVER POSSIBLE TO SHAFT THE PUBLIC…………

    OUR TOWN, SCARBOROUGH, IS REMINISCENT OF ONE OF HOGARTH’S DEPICTIONS OF “GIN LANE”.
    QUALITY NIL, POVERTY EVERYWHERE…….

    WE ARE COMING OUT OF RECESSION AND INTO GROWTH, WHO THE FUCK DO THESE COMEDIANS THINK THEY ARE TALKING TO?

    I NOTICED THAT JACOB REES MOGG (SOUNDS LIKE A BREED OF DEAD CAT), VISITED SOUTH SHIELDS TO BOLSTER TORY VALUES AMONGST THE WORKING CLASSES……….

    THEY SOON FUCKED HIM OFF! TALKING LIKE HE HAS A PAIR OF RUSTING WALLPAPER SHEARS UP HIS ARSE…….

    THIS MORNING THE BBC REPORTED THAT SOME PIP CLAIMANTS HAD EXPERIENCED PROBLEMS AFTER WAITING WEEKS FOR A MEDICAL DECISION…………..

    SIX FUCKING MONTHS AND MORE! YOU TWISTED MEDIA CRONIES….

    PATTON’S PROVERBIAL PISSTAKING PUPPET PROPAGANDA!

    “will soon have finished my food parcel, shall i use the cardboard to wrap myself up, to keep warm, build a fire or make into a a thick gruel?………

  48. DWP: Housing benefit will be sanctioned
    part-time workers judged to be doing too little to find full-time work face having their benefit for housing costs sanctioned by the government for the first time under universal credit.

    http://www.insidehousing.co.uk/dwp-housing-benefit-will-be-sanctioned/7002330.article

  49. biggest sponger going george dunken smith

    i wish all fighting these bastards to not give up..unfortunately i have had to, they was making me ill. i don;t get any benefit at all now..i signed off..was under sanction after sanction….trying desperately to find work..any work to no avail..luckily i have a roof over my head and basic meals, i live with my gran. she’s skint to but would not see me on the streets. but there’s ta;k of targeting pensioners next, so god knows what the future holds, bastards they are!! good luck

    • biggest sponger going george dunken smith

      I note your pseudonym here.
      Sorry to hear of all your toubles with these evil satanist Nazis.
      I wrote this poem just after Christmas time.
      I put it up before, on another site, but not sure if it got thru. a bit heavy !
      ids won’t like it….tough !

      THE SPONGE MAN

      A lovely cake is made of sponge.
      A lovely cake is turned to crumbs,
      with nothing left for anyone else.
      The sponge man had it all himself!

      And so with a beautiful cake,
      it’s true our welfare state.
      As new ways he thinks to bake,
      a life, of always on the take!

      For he “sponges” off the land.
      Never raises a hand.
      Work he never has.
      But there’s nothing he doesn’t have.

      And like our cake of sponge,
      He soaks up all the nations’ funds.
      The fruits of all the land ~ he spends it as he wills,
      caring not for any bills.

      Regards the views of no man
      And proud and vain, he lives a glorious sham.
      Lying as much he can.
      He’ll never be a working man.

      For all he does is sponge and sponge and sponge.
      Taking everything off from everyone.
      He thinks it endless fun.
      Compassion he has none.

      It the only way he knows to live.
      He has not a conscious to wrestle with.
      ATOS he doesn’t give. The fault is never his.
      His name is Ian “Duncan” Smith !!!

      Gordo

      © Gordon Keane. 2014. Glasgow, Scotland

      • Superb. You need to get that in print and get you a few sheckles for your time. It could be read as a footnote in years to come, of the time we had an unelected gov. regime.

        • Cheers.! I do a lot of this stuff.
          Wrote one ‘bout Tony Blair a year before he became Prime Minister.
          “Vote for me and I’ll reduce your teenager’s meagre welfare.
          Vote for me, and I’ll introduce curfews for the teenagers’ too!
          I ended it by saying, “Will he champion poor depressed youth?
          No way Man. He thinks we’re all no use”!!
          Alas, Alas….How very right I was.

          • Should’ve read…“Vote for me and I’ll reduce your teenager’s meagre welfare.
            Vote for me, and I’ll introduce curfews for the teenagers’ too. Beware!

  50. the police destroying the few possetions of the homeless has been going on for years in america ie cutting up the tents of the homeless and also towing and impounding the vehicals of the mobile homeless giveing them 5 days to pay the fines if the cant pay the impounded vehicals are crushed ..its all there on yourtube..this is the reality of this brutal new world.i find it truly amazing how and why anyone is taken in by boris jhonson ,lol he,s a snake in the grass as are all the tories they are primative backwards people,backwards and inbred they belive in darwins evolutionary theory and truly belive they are some kind of master race ,lol imagine if we as a nation had the guts and spirit of the ukrainians if we hadnt all been divided we could rise up and remove these sub humans once and for all starting with that uber benefits family the windsors

  51. obd, you summarise it very well. Their overarching response is always NO!

    Every system in our culture has been kidnapped by the need to do everything as cheaply as possible and make as much money as possible. The cult of the individual has ironically spawned a mass response from the system that is essentially “you are not an individual, one size fits all” and then no one gets the treatment that is effective for them because one size fits no one.

    I see that “Mindfulness” is being promoted wildly as the latest cure all blame-the-patient therapy for anyone with an MH issue. In the same way that CBT is being pushed. Neither of these therapies is suitable for most of the people who end up receiving them and certainly not in the form delivered by so many like ATOS/Positive Step. CBT is only assessed (by NICE) for effectiveness against the waiting list, where there is incidentally an 84% drop out rate. There are several MH conditions which CBT (and Mindfulness) should never be used as they have tremendous potential to cause enduring harm.

    Everything we are being told or offered seems to be aiming to turn us all into compliant, oppressed, uncomplaining morons. We are being forced to be stupid. The system encourages it.

    Very telling statement from the area assessor for Positive Step (ATOS) who provide cheap group CBT – after I had told her for the umpteenth time why CBT was not for me (I have tried it, it was useless and harmful) She said “Lucy, your trouble is that you know too much about your condition for it to work for you” and “if I needed therapy it wouldn’t be the one I’d choose for myself or anyone I cared about” – To me, those two statements sum up the state of MH health care. Every single one of the practitioners/hcps/assessors/CPNs/MH charities and the whole panoply of the clueless seem to have bought into this guff that the patient must be blamed continuously for therapies that don’t work.

    Which, funnily enough is similar to the way the DWP treat us.

    • Well that is a catch 22 get out if ever I heard one. You indicate you know enough about it that the cat is out of the bag regarding the bullshit kwackery they are prescribing, and they respond by saying the magic doesnt work if you have seen how the illusion is performed.
      So its still your fault.
      Bullshit!
      Imagine Paul Daniels getting booed off stage saying; Its not my fault
      they saw the mirrors?

      • pat ato
        catch22….NO! because they know deep down that they are wrong hence their use of word wizardry…try must not “over think” would want you to see what we are doing now would we, and formembering, ie simultaneous forgetting and remembering (2 places at once is the catch22) and the impossible tasks that are actually asking one to perform…call their bluff…
        so you would argue for an acceptance of draconia?

    • absolutely true lucy
      obd, I replied to you but it came out way further up ^ than I expected! Under Paul’s post @ 11:48
      but i must also add the no! voice comes from within us, to their no, what you gonna do for us in return…treatments should be unconditional and based on one’s own assessments of what one can or cannot do….end conditionality, sanctions, reduce rents and increase our benefits re ESC now! i’ll add more to this later on, probably….but i think i have already said all i need to say in my previous posts…..

    • ps lucy
      CBT is toxic crap and is only of benefit to the so called therapists and their pay cheque’s, i call it shut up therapy aka cognitive bollocks therapy…

      • lucy
        you might find this useful as a preamble into his work…
        http://www.soteria.freeuk.com/176_16-18.pdf

        • obd, you gem! I had a look at his work last summer and I liked what I read (spoons ran out so didn’t get back to his work) Thank you for giving me his name. I will not lose it again. He writes sense and for me, most importantly, he is humane. So many who have set up their little income stream on the backs of those with enduring and severe MH problems, lack any basic humaneness. Bob Johnson knows that the most powerful treatment tool for so many who have been brutalised by the system, is, kindness, in its true form.

          No one is going to heal if the message they get is “take the drugs or lose your money, take the drugs or be sectioned, rationalise yourself into stupidity and forget the past, everything you think about your life is wrong, it didn’t happen, you made it up, don’t be a silly billy, it can’t be that bad, pretend you are happy, it might work”

          Nihilism is the perfect description for modern psychiatry. The epic raft of charities with trainee and free counsellors, the do-gooding hobbyists set up in private practice who have only minimal qualification/experience and no supervision, all the way to the locked ward. We are sold short at every step. Blamed at every crisis. I see no angels, only bastards, hell bent on ensuring their income stream, unencumbered by any responsibility

          CBT has harmed so many people. I found it reductive, patronising and offensive. One shouldn’t have to be ignorant of one’s condition for a therapy to work!

          I see that Mindfulness is this year’s CBT. The Chief Shrink for our CCG has latched onto this and is responding to any GP request for special funding for treatment with the phrase “tell your patient to practice being mindful, that should help” Yeah, right, help keep the patient distraught, angry and at risk of harm, tremendously therapeutic, that.

          Sometimes it just feels like we are all being relentlessly poked with sharp sticks until we fall into an abyss. Every element of our being is under attack, from our inner lives to our external lives, no wall seems to repel the constant antagonising from our tormentors.

          • lucy
            yes again, and i add this, freud has done immense damage to humanity…johnson cites love, compassion and empathy, and healing the emotional pain of those that are suffering it…his job of work, is to heal the customer…one should be mindful of one’s, own needs at all times…
            “be mindful”….ie blame the victim…an extremely toxic notion..the retort of the mindful and/or non-mindful to it, of course is to insist that they explain exactly what it is, write it down so i don’t forget, coz i stupid, so how do you expect me to get it and never take implied you should know, because if i’m stupid as you imply, how can i know, i would already be mindful, if i did know, so why do you say i need to know/be what i already am? “are, YOU, stupid?”…mindfullness as/is an instruction, (being taught by guru) = self control, mind/anger management, state of nothing, obedience to commands, paying attention, emptiness, it means nothing and links to pointlessness, is what ever they say it is…human beings are already born naturally mindful , so they want us to produce mindfullness, what of?….be mindful, it is like willing a faulty diesel injector to repair itself without earthly intervention or asking a flat tyre to re inflate it’s self without 1st fixing the leak, and blowing the tyre up with air.. to reaffirm mindfullness is a product of emotional health, of a clear unfogged/ungummed mind….DENIAL is not a cure..acting, as if, mindful is no cure,…mindfullness only happens when all the toxic crap that causes it’s loss, is booted out of trapped mind…it is a PRODUCT not a cure…fantasists take a grain of imagined possibility and exaggerate it’s value til it reaches the status of an unseen force, and becomes a deity, as if it is a reality…the lion and the thorn…if i were a mechanic and a customer came into my garage, with a noisy wheel bearing and i supplied them with ear muffs and an amplifier for their radio, as a remedy, i would rightly lose custom and so should these cbt charlatans…the cure is so down to earth, simple and practical…as scientific as doing the laundry, changing a light bulb, making toast, planting tatties or baking a cake and boiling an egg, yet it is now wrapped up in chargeable and preposterous mystery…hit your thumb with a hammer what does one do, now someone stops that from happening and what do you get….

            • obd, you cover everything there, everything you have written is true.. I’d just like to add one thought I’ve had…

              For those in power to agree to and implement an effective social security system and humane mental health care provision, it would require them all to own up to the cruel carnage and injustices that they have been administering to the poor and mentally unwell for hundreds of years.

              Guilty cowards never own up to anything.

              • lucy
                they fear their own retribution…all change must 1st come from within…they have to discover their own minds, and not hyde behind ours…ie, hitler took his revenge out on the world because of what his parents did to him…ghandi, was inspired by the works of the shelley’s, he did not find romance, but truth..

                • Someone in their order has to be the first to stop perpetuating the abuse of the vulnerable. Lots of people had lousy parents and terrible childhoods containing nothing but neglect and abuse, both physical and emotional. Many of those people continued to have awful lives as adults because of the damage done to them when they were so young, but not all of those people set out to destroy the lives of others.

                  It reminds me of the people who think it’s ok to wallop children as a form of discipline. More than once I’ve heard them say “I was hit when I was a kid and it didn’t do me any harm” If I’m feeling polite, I suggest that the harm it did them was that it left them believing that using violence against children is ok.

                • lucy
                  yes, loads of people are savagely abused and never become abusers themselves…but often continue to be abused…simply as alice miller puts it many find a reliable person, who consistently, unconditionally/no attachment strings, looks after one during these horrendous soul murdering attacks, ie just by being there with tea cake and beans on toast, a safe place to hide out at for a while….hitler et al were not so lucky…the range and types of abuse also make a big difference to how this marrs one’s personality…to know that there is humanity out there is vital, to one’s destiny if one is suffering abuse…some school teachers show great humanity, without humiliation…but, i do know it’s affects are 100% curable…

  52. So what do they do with the homeless people?

    The jails are bastard full!

    The Police are cunts if they follow this directive.

    • They are following it with surgical gloves and smiles around Westminster already Pal. I have seen beggars and genuine homeless alike being frisked,looted and told to fuck off away from zone 1 or be put before a judge for sentencing.

  53. Where do they put the homeless?
    All the prisons are full.
    The Police are bastards if they carry out this directive.

  54. No one is going to help us. This is going to get worse and people are dying at the hands of the government. If we protest we will end up in super prisons and they want us to protest so they can blame us. There are no lxuries on fifty odd quid a week!

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