Are Tories Planning To Cut Tax Credits Because Iain Duncan Smith Thinks Parents Spend Them On Drugs?

Iain-Duncan-Smith-workfareAre the Tories really planning to cut Tax Credits because Iain Duncan Smith thinks struggling families spend them on drugs?

That’s the astonishing claim made by the Daily Telegraph after focussing on a part of Iain Duncan Smith’s speech this week which went unreported elsewhere in the press and was not included in the transcript published by The Spectator.

According to The Telegraph:  “Mr Duncan Smith indicated his party is preparing to review tax credits, which are paid to people on low incomes or with children. The system was introduced by Gordon Brown and has been criticised for subsidising low wages. They will cost £28bn this year, and the cost is forecast to rise £35bn by 2018/19.

He said the cash pushed people above an “arbitrary” poverty line on paper but failed to change their lives, and some “unproductive” people spent the extra money on drink and drugs rather than food for their children.

“Quite often you’d take a family that had been on drugs or abusing alcohol, much of that money would have been spent in the wrong place and their own families would remain officially over the poverty line but unofficially rooted in poor lives,” he said.

“I met many families where the adults are themselves are deeply addicted. Even beyond their abilities, the money that they get often goes in quite negative ways, drugs, alcohol. They don’t mean to harm their families, far from it, but their kids will then have to be raised in an environment which is well below the poverty line. You can’t measure that effect. They then don’t go to school, they don’t eat enough,”.

This followed a diatribe about the system of Tax Credits, which IDS called poverty plus a pound (he prefers just poverty).  In an ominous statement he then went on to say that Tax Credits had failed and asked us to  consider: “what more could have been achieved had that money been invested in a more focused way to create lasting improvements to people’s chances… be it higher attainment in schools, better budgeting skills, recovery from addiction, and so on.”

The implication is clear, IDS wants to get rid of Tax Credits and instead shovel yet more tax-payers cash into the pockets of crooks like G4S in exchange for failing to provide public services.

Of all Iain Duncan Smith messianic rantings yesterday, this is surely the biggest hint of what is to come in the unlikely event that the Tories win the next election.  Millions of “hard working families” currently claim Working Tax Credits, people George Osborne once called strivers.  Now it seems these parents could find their already meagre incomes are set to shrink even further.  And all because IDS has decided that people who are poor must be spending their money on drugs.

Comparing cutting disabled people’s housing benefit to ending slavery was a new low even for the increasingly deluded Iain Duncan Smith.  Or at least it seemed to be.  Suggesting that low-income parents will have to accept yet more cuts to in-work benefits –  already pegged to rise below the rate of inflation – because some of them take drugs is genuinely astonishing.  This is what these bastards really think of us.  No-one on a low income, whether in work or not, is safe from these parasites.

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277 responses to “Are Tories Planning To Cut Tax Credits Because Iain Duncan Smith Thinks Parents Spend Them On Drugs?

  1. I’m beginning to think that IDS should be sectioned. He’s now a danger to everyone as well as to himself with his delusions!

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      Beginning to think? This ‘man’ should have sectioned a very longtime ago. He is TOTALLY mentally ill.

    • Indeed. He appears to be seriously arguing that the main problem with poor people is that they have too much money.

      !!

      Still, since that’s been the basic thrust of Tory policy since 2010 – aided and abetted by the disgusting Lib Dem turncoats, and scarcely resisted by a Labour party now quite overrun with the kind of people who once tethered the Tories to some kind of sanity, and who still secretly wish they could be Tories – it’s nice to see someone finally stating it in clear-ish terms. In fact, it’d be nice to see someone put it that starkly to IDS; my bet is that he’s stupid enough to blurt out “Yes, exactly!” before realising what he just said and trying to bluster his way out of it.

      • just passing I couldn’t have put it better but one wonders if allowed to do this will those 99percent who are poor will they no awake and see the abuse the tories portray

  2. GEOFFREY REYNOLDS

    ONCE AGAIN, THE DWP, DISABILITY WELFARE PARIAH’S, ARE SPOUTING SHIT THROUGH THEIR “COCK IN THE MOUTH COLLEAGUES”,
    THE BBC, GENERAL PATTON;S PROPAGANDA PUPPETS!

    THE SPIN DOCTORS OF THIS STATE SPONSORED KILLING MACHINE ARE ABOUT AS HONEST AS AN ATOS MEDICAL REPORT!

    TWISTING THE TRUTH IS EASY WHEN YOU CONTROL THE DUMBFUCKS
    OF THE HAND IN POCKET MEDIA.

    THIS IS THE BBC HEADLINE;

    The DWP claims 980,400 people – 32%, of new applicants for Employment and Support Allowance – were judged capable of work between 2008 and March 2013.

    …………NEW APPLICANTS, MY ARSE!!!!!

    THE PEOPLE WHO WERE IN RECEIPT OF SICKNESS BENEFITS RECEIVED A LETTER INFORMING THEM THAT THEIR OLD BENEFITS HAD CEASED TO EXIST AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO RE-APPLY FOR A NEW ESA BENEFIT THAT WOULD REPLACE IT.

    A QUESTIONNAIRE WAS SENT TO EXISTING CLAIMANTS ASKING ABOUT THEIR MENTAL AND PHYSICAL ILLNESS AND THEY WERE THEN ASKED TO ATTEND A MEDICAL, BY THE NOW NOTORIOUS, ATOS HEALTHCARE.

    A DISABILITY DENIAL UNIT THAT WAS MADE POSSIBLE BY SHITHOUSES LIKE BILL GUNNYEON, CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER OF THE DWP AND HIS TWISTED NETWORK OF CRONIES FROM THE FACULTY OF OCCUPATIONAL MEDICINE.

    BOLSTERED BY THE EFFORTS OF A SELECT NUMBER OF PROMINENT MEMBERS OF OUR GOVERNMENT, IN TANDEM WITH HEALTH INSURANCE GIANT, UNUM CORPORATION OF AMERICA,

    FORMERLY CHARGED WITH DISABILITY DENIAL LAWSUITS IN THE USA, THEY SET OUT TO CRUCIFY THE DISABLED OF THE U.K.

    SADLY, THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SPEAKING OUT, BUT IN AN EFFORT TO QUELL THE GROWING TIDE OF DISSENT, OUR GOVERNMENT HAVE SOUGHT TO TRY AND INTRODUCE GAGGING OF ITS PEOPLE……………………………..

    OUR LAWS ARE NO LONGER TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF OUR NATION, THEY ARE BEING REWRITTEN TO HIDE THE ANTICS OF THE WEALTHY ELITE FROM SCRUTINY……………………

    ASK YOURSELVES, WHY IS THE DWP ONLY TOO GLAD TO HERALD IT’S ACHIEVEMENTS, YET COWER TO HIDE THE GROWING MOUNTAIN OF CORPSES LEFT IN ITS ASSAULT ON THE POOREST, WEAKEST AND DISABLED?

    OUR QUEEN, OUR MONARCH, IS THE BIGGEST WELFARE SCROUNGER THIS COUNTRY HAS EVER KNOWN!

    THE STATE SUPPORTS THIS FAMILY OF NOBLE “INBREDS” WHILST SHAFTING EVERYBODY ELSE…………………….

    ON THIS PLATFORM, I GEOFFREY REYNOLDS, CHALLENGE YOU, IAIN DUNCAN SMITH, TO AN OPEN FISTED CAGE FIGHT………..

    I MAY BE DISABLED, BUT THE HATE AND ANGER THAT I HOUSE WITHIN MY FRAIL BODY WILL PUT YOU TO SHAME ANYDAY!

    “YOU ARE BUT A COWARD LIVING WITHIN THE BODY OF A MAN”

    WHY NOT TAKE UP MY CHALLENGE AND LET THE WORLD SEE WHAT A CRAVEN JELLY OF A MAN YOU REALLY ARE?

    HAVING BODYGUARDS IS NOTHING TO BRAG ABOUT, IT’S NOT A MATTER OF SOCIAL PROMINENCE, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A SIMPLE SCUMBAG WHO MILLIONS WOULD LIKE TO SEE ERADICATED…………….

    TAKE UP MY CHALLENGE, I DARE YOU?

    I WILL FIGHT YOU FOR THE RELEASE OF THE TRUE MORTALITY RATES YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS INFLICTED, THE ONES HIDDEN FROM PUBLIC VIEW.

    THE FINAL NAIL IN YOUR COFFIN…………….

    ……………and maybe the reason that i am being paid only £32.30 per week, disabled for life………………………..

    • just like you Geoff I had that magic 33pounds a week has I had that new law of 365days come into being yet I fought and a few yrs down the line won through to sg yet I hope you too can do it but making oneself mad at this sorry excuss for a human nah just try to remember we all suffer m/h problems after coming in contact with the dwp I hope you can resist kicking that imp but then could I come and try also be good jeff3

  3. Barking mad…try explaining his ravings to a parent whose child needs school shoes and coat and to get by despite being diabetic mum lives on tea and toast while dad lives it up worrying himself sick over how he will repair d car to get to min wage job zero hrs contract.
    Best income takers for the govt are legalized drugs, fags aga alcohol. Are they going to ban those?

  4. IDS.

    “I met many families where the adults are themselves are deeply addicted”

    Yeah Right, your such a coward and totally hated piece of filth you can’t go anywhere without your personal (armed) bodyguards anymore.

    Where are these families you have met then? probably in your dreamworld – that would be the Daily Mail then!

    • Old Dunk’d in Shit meets mostly posh Tory families and thinks the rest of us are arseholes too!

    • @Obi and IDS is addicted to dog racing …
      Isn’t betting another fucking addiction ?

    • Obi – That`s the line I picked up on first, ` I have met many families……….`

      Where? Who? When?…. It seems IDS is continuing the delusion of his saying it will just be viewed as fact.

      I sincerely doubt anyone he has met has been a drug abuser who neglects their family.

      How can only one paper pick up on this statement?

      Oh hang on, they are all in together!!!

  5. Aren’t they scrapping tax credits and replacing them with universal credit? Or are they just going to kill them off and make UC just an out of work benefit? Next they’ll stop housing benefit to the low waged.

    • I think you might be right ..UC is a total mess so he is slagging off tax credits in order to promote his ” better system” of UC…he is just trying to cover his arse..

    • I think he wants to move what was paid in tax credits to employers, who he said has to put the same amount in as the government does when recruiting employees, then it will look like employers are paying the minimum wage plus.

  6. This is the worst slander yet against those that are struggling & have barely enough to live on, but spend their tax credits on drink & drugs instead of feeding thier kids. Really? On what evidence? Oh, I see, Drunken Shit believes it so it must be true! Must be weird living in IDS’ world.
    Time he was locked up in a padded room wearing that nice jacket with the straps that fasten round the back for all our sakes

    • Unfortunately it isn’t going to happen! I would love to know what scandal he has on david …..moron to stay in his job

      • It’s quite clear IDS ‘has’ got something on Cameron, maybe we should all start digging around on the internet in our spare time as everything someone does leave’s a digital finger print.

        It would have to be something incredible, something that would finish Cameron but not IDS?

        • I’ve thought the same for some time & whatever it is it must be pure dynamite for the incompetent moron to keep his job. As you stated there has to be something on the web somewhere, as to whatever IDS is using to blackmail Camoron. Time to start digging!

        • David Hammerings sexuality will not be revealed for another 30 years.
          You will just have to wait.
          Ian Duncan Smith is about to be outed, then retired to the House of lords where he will feel in a comfort zone .

        • theres nothing that smith has on cameron or vise versa just look through history,cameron is desperate for power and stay in power,he tries to play the nice guy,smith is simply a henchman to defract from his lackings,i think if there was any dirt it would be out by now

      • I don’t think he has anything on him… its all working to plan, while we rage at IDS for being a total cockwombling fuck up out to destroy anyone poor it leaves camoron free to carry on, un-hindered, and also distracts from giddiots total faliour to reduce both the debt and deficit having now run up tripple that of the outgoing labour party… the lies over “feeling better off” and “lower unemployment” are reaching stupid levels for some reason… oh yeah their going to get their heads kicked in at the general election next year along with the libdums near total obliteration after becoming tory lapdogs in 2010.

      • Joanna – I have a burning impulsion to be crude concerning David C and IDS scandals but, am refraining lol.

        • Go one elohimette, have a good cuss, it’s very therapeutic I find, and it can be quite creative.

          Personally, my epic lexicon of profanity, foul language and cussing ceased to be sufficient for expressing my opinion of The Coagulation the day they got into power.

          I have tried combining profanities, cusses and general foul language, it’s a sticking plaster really, we need new language to match the foul manner of IDS and his repulsive crew.

          • Lucy, re. the selective use and validation of sanctions as a “tool”:
            i read your (very restrained & measured) comment on vp – went to have a look as it was a sanctions-related article & like you, i was curious about what might be in it ….

            People have different ways of ‘explaining’ things to themselves don’t they – depending on what their starting point is – but this level of (?rationale?) is either above or beyond me. I agreed almost 100 percent with your comment, but reading the reply there didn’t seem much point in adding to what you’d said – other than to 2nd it. (I don’t know about the motivation/impetus of seemingly being able to both condemn and support something more or less in the same paragraph – i will admit to being a bit mystified, and at the same time not altogether surprised). Ho hum

            • Shirley, thanks for that.

              I agree, it’s almost impossible to understand what Mike Sivier was trying to achieve by endorsing sanctions (over here) then making a post on VP that seemed to be him taking a few shuffles back to ameliorate what he had written over here.

              I think you are spot on regarding the way people explain things to themselves. I would guess that IDS does similar when formulating policies that lead to deaths.

              I didn’t expect him to publish the comment I left over there. I haven’t been back yet to see. I normally wouldn’t have a go like that, but this time I was so shocked to see him back a system that is being used to destroy lives and resulting in real deaths. I’ve thought a lot about this and I still think he’s been dazzled by the possibility that one day he will get to mingle and talk with the big wigs via media exposure.

              On here he stated that he wasn’t a neoliberal, yet the words he used on here did nothing but praise neoliberal policies and politicians. He wouldn’t engage over here to discuss it, which I thought very arrogant.

              There’s bit of a hierarchy in any blogging community I’ve noticed. Maybe he wants to climb a few rungs higher? I hope it isn’t true, because we poor sods need all the voices we can to help us.

              His outrage on here that I should dare to question his motives told me that I might well be right about what I said. Maybe I touched a nerve. I’d have thought better of him if he had engaged with my challenge here.

              On a lighter note, I like your owl avatar. I like a good owl.

            • Well here’s a thing Shirley and everyone….

              I thought I’d see what, if any reply Mike Sivier made to my comment on his blog. But lo and behold the comment I posted there has not made it through VP’s moderation, or it has been removed?

              You made a great comment there Shirley, and in his reply to you I think he just exposes his lack of education in educational matters, along with a load of old scrounger rhetoric about the unemployed staying in bed.

              There’s an extensive and informative comment on that post by “Florence” who clearly understands the problematic nature of forcing basic skills training (it won’t be education) on individuals who have a basic skills shortfall. Florence understands that force stops learning of any value happening. But like a lot of people who have no clue about this issue, Mike again embarrasses himself with his reply to her, insisting that sanctions are a reasonable course of action should someone refuse basic skills training. A basic course in the psychology of learning might benefit Mr Sivier and help him not spout more his offensive prejudice and ignorance on this issue.

              There is a snippy (and tragically revealing) little comment by Mike Sivier at the end of that post that makes it very clear what Mike Sivier’s opinion is of us……

              “I have found myself defending my views – more on another blog site than this one – against opinions that are little more than knee-jerk dribblings (if that isn’t a mixed metaphor).”

              The post it comes from is this:
              mikesivier.wordpress.com/2014/01/20/workplace-battleground-labour-and-tories-at-war-over-employment/#comments

              So, fellow dribblers, that is what Mike Sivier thinks of you. He is too cowardly to enter into debate on anything other than his terms. He has applied a strict rule on how we must engage but applies arbitrary and random rules on his behaviour. Ergo: We are not allowed to disagree with him nor question his allegiances, but he is free to call us dribblers.

              Isn’t that a clear mark of a bully? Someone who applies strict rules for everyone but not for themselves?

              Next time he turns up here, filled with arrogant and aspirational delight, promoting schemes that have sanctions that will be abused and will cause deaths, I may not be so polite to him.

              Anyway, just reminded myself that the old saying “runs with the hare and hunts with the hounds” really does fit Mike Sivier. Despite a raft of pro-disabled/anti-tory/DWP postings in the last few days, it’s too late Mike, we can see your petticoat love.

              The further the monkey climbs up the tree, the more we can see its arse.
              ….. and in Mike’s case, it’s blue.

            • sn and lucy
              you’re posts are truly magnificent, what a great analysis…who am i to say, but a knee jerk dribbler, who has not in my 61yrs formed any opinions on any subject….some lengthy, dribbling, knee jerk i have suffered, eh!

            • Hmm. Dissent = knee-jerk reaction, in much the same way as pointing out the truth in parliament = scaremongering. I really, really don’t think that the reason things have got steadily worse in recent years is because we don’t have enough self-belief and positivity or feel passionate enough, or each try in whatever ways Of Our Own Choosing to cling on to what we believe/speak out against what we know is unjust/amoral.

              I won’t be writing to Rachel Reeves. (I do occasionally write to a.n.other local mp but not convinced at all that he isn’t old/newLabour & only in extremis) – so perhaps there is a tendency to not want to give up completely on something that used to seem important at one time. (Nostalgia for hope/belief in the ‘orderliness’ of life). So I can understand someone who’s been brought up to believe in the political process finding it hard to accept that it’s all a giant con … it’s certainly taken me a while. There’s just too much evidence to ignore now though – surely that’s why so many people who do care deeply (for their own rights and future chances, and about how their children’s/grandchildren’s lives are going to pan out) take the time to discuss politics – for want of a better word – here and in similar places – where we’re fortunate enough to hear from others – also extremely disillusioned – yet not given up by any means.

              When the 3 main parties speak though – they do sound more or less exactly the same (Animal Farm – final scene).

              And actively choosing not “to participate” (in the sense of petitioning MPs) does not equate to apathy. Can’t it be equally that after giving serious consideration to the political system/process, it’s possible to make a conscious decision to get off the merrrygoround – rather than stay on and keeping going round and feeling sicker and sicker? (as in when beginning to be too elderly to enjoy the waltzers in the same way as a starry-eyed 14 year-old might) – not wanting to be spun round any more, and deciding to admit that “the jig is up” – recent favourite expression (as heard at a local theatre production of ‘Annie’).

              Ps. Lucy, the owl says ’00’ & she’ll probably be voting ‘no thanks’ in 2015 t'(w)oo.

    • So true, I’m a working single mum on tax credits, in my last job I was sexually harassed on a daily basis n in the end was signed off sick for 8 weeks and given anri depressant,…! I can barely afford heating never mind drugs!

  7. Isn’t he judging poor people by his own standards. He is mentally deranged and incredibly Dangerous, and how did he meet any such families, no-one would be seen dead near him if they had a choice. If I met him I would really love to wind him up so he would fully lose his mind and his job! As for comparisons, I would strongly compare him to Himmler!!

  8. Reblogged this on Still Oaks.

    • GEOFFREY REYNOLDS

      January 25, 2014 at 10:22 am

      …..SIMPLY PUT, THE P.C.S., THE UNION THAT EXISTS WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT FOR WORKS AND PENSIONS, HAS LESS BACKBONE THAN A JELLYFISH………………..

      THE PUBLIC AND SERVICES UNION, ARE MERE PUPPETS OF A TWISTED, HEINOUS STRATEGY THAT IS KILLING INNOCENT VICTIMS, BY THE THOUSANDS.

      IT’S A BIT LATE FOR THEM TO BE SHOWING SLIGHT CONCERN FOR THE ROCKETING NUMBERS DISAPPEARING FROM OUR STREETS BY EXPOSING DWP GOVERNMENT TARGETS, FOR WHAT WE ARE WITNESSING IS A STATE SPONSORED KILLING MACHINE.

      EACH AND EVERY MEMBER OF THIS UNION HAS TAKEN PART IN A CULL OF THE POOREST AND WEAKEST.

      IT’S NO GOOD BEING PART OF A UNION JUST TO ACT AS ONE AND NEGOTIATE TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR YOUR MEMBERS, YOU ALSO HAVE A MORAL AND ETHICAL DUTY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC WHO PAY YOUR WAGES……………

      MORE AND MORE DOCUMENTATION IS COMING INTO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN ABOUT THE WAR OF ATTRITION STAGED AGAINST THE VULNERABLE.

      THE CONDITIONS OF YOUR EMPLOYMENT SEEM TO BE, LIE ,CHEAT AND STEAL AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY………

      COULD YOU HONESTLY FACE THE FAMILIES OF THOSE WHO HAVE LOST ONE, AS A DIRECT RESULT OF A MISGUIDED SANCTION?

      I DOUBT IT!

      MORTALITY RATES ARE BEING WITHHELD. THE MORTALITY RATES ARE A TRUE GRAPH OF THE EXTENT OF BLOOD ON YOUR UNIONS HANDS…………..

      RUNNING SHY AND CLAIMING YOU WERE ONLY FOLLOWING ORDERS WAS THROWBACK FROM THE NAZI’S, DO YOU WISH TO CONTINUE THIS ONSLAUGHT OF INNOCENT VICTIMS?

      I THINK NOT……….

      TARGETS HAVE NO PLACE WHEN ASSESSING THE QUALITY OF A HUMAN BEINGS EXISTENCE, IT IS THE WORK OF A CORRUPT SOCIETY.
      THE STRENGTH OF A PEOPLE IS MEASURED BY HOW IT TREATS ITS WEAKEST, NOT THE EVIL DEALT ON THOSE WITH THE LEAST RESOLVE.

      THE P.C.S. HAS MENTIONED THAT ITS MEMBERS HAVE BEEN USING TARGETS TO SANCTION PEOPLE ON JOB SEEKERS ALLOWANCE, YET NO MENTION OF THE SANCTION AGAINST THE DISABLED WITH BOTH PHYSICAL AND MENTAL PROBLEMS?

      ARE THEY EASY PREY, MAIMED AND LESS LIKELY TO FIGHT BACK?

      CORRUPT HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS TAKING PRECEDENT OVER GENUINE DOCTORS, DECISION MAKERS OF YOUR UNION ACTING IN THE BIGGEST DISABILITY DENIAL OF ALL TIME…….

      SEARCH YOUR MEMBERS CONSCIENCES……………

      WHEN WILL THE WANTON CARNAGE OF OUR NATION STOP?

      THE P.C.S. HAS THE KEY TO UNLOCK ALL THAT IS HAPPENING, COME OUT OF THE SHADOWS AND SPEAK BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE……….

      IS A PERSONS LIFE REALLY WORTH AN EASTER EGG OR A MARKS AND SPENCER’S VOUCHER?

      “WITHIN YOUR UNION, IT SEEMS SO”

  9. IDS probably believes the garbage he is spouting. He is beginning to resemble one of those Dominican monks who gleefully tortured so-called “heretics” during the medieval Inquisition in order to save their souls from the (imaginary) flames of hell; he is, after all, a devout Christian.

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      He is a Roman Catholic and despite being a utterly deluded and mentally-ill total PRICK anyway this religion makes him even more barmy. It’s the essential ingredient to make him a case for straight jackets. Let’s face, it Roman Catholicism is a bit like Islam in that it is less liberal-minded and more all-encompasing than being a Protestant. This odious little shit needs to be sectioned under the Mental Health Act.

      • Steven, IDS is roman catholic, so was Hitler!!!!!

        • Everthing you wanted to know about IDS but were afraid to ask, including a bunch of total lies regarding his history (C.V.)

          http://www.iainduncansmith.org.uk/

        • Steven2011@lavabit.com

          Indeed he was, Joanna. The faith of Romanists is a lot more dogmatic and all-encompassing (like Islam is) compared to the more liberal-minded Protestant religion. It should come as no surprise therefore that when a messianic belief in this denomination is combined with an an existing mentally-ill person ie Adolf Hitler or Iain Dumbo-Smith it causes that person to be even more bat shit insane than they would be ‘normally’.

        • I have posted this message before.
          Lets not bring religion into any conversation on this site.
          Religion should be taboo.

          • Thanks. I’m a Muslim revert. Mum was Jewish under Jewish law I’m Jewish. But we’re all human (apart from the con dems of course )

          • Ron, No disrespect to you Hon But, – Free speech is free speech. When someone such as IDS claims they are of a religious faith yet treats people with utter contempt then we have every right to challenge his ideals.

            No subject should be taboo

            • Yes, but when he completely ignores those ideals, I’m not sure what difference it makes. His purported faith is just one more thing IDS has betrayed.

              If someone’s words and deeds disagree, remember: deeds don’t lie.

            • But he is a compulsive liar,encouraged by his back room faceless team to play the religious card.
              The only thing that he believes in is Ian Duncan Smith.
              So therefore we should discount him.
              The more publicity this cretin gets the more he likes it , and i must add his team of cretins will be seeking to get his job.
              So maybe we should be uncovering their names for future reference.?

          • Religion should be a private matter between a person and the deity of his/hers choice. Organised religion is the scourge of mankind.

      • He is also giving mentally ill people everywhere a bad name – the vast, vast majority of whom are not in any way dangerous and even in that negligable number of cases, more often than not the danger is to themselves.

        The difference (from most other people, ill or otherwise) in IDS’ case, are the resources he has at his disposal. He seems all-too frighteningly similar to the main character in ‘The Collector’ (by John Fowles), who was innocuous, ineffectual and not able to much to damage others despite being almost completely detached from reality. It was only after a sudden windfall meant he could buy a detached house, not overlooked, and a van in which to start taking women against their will and holding them prisoner that he was able to start to enact his fantasies. At which point, he had the power of life and death over his innocent victims (as with the butterflies in his collection).

        Please note, this isn’t a recommendation of the book. Do not read last thing at night – or after watching the latest screening of anything emanating from the (SOS) DWP. This is a horror story too.

      • Does Catholicism preach starve the poor like the protestant work ethic does?
        If this man is a catholic he is not practicing his faith, nor were wicked Dominicans, pervert priests or anybody else who wants to exploit or has no empathy for the poorest in society.

        • Guy,don’t forget it was roman catholics that imprisoned women for decades in the uk in magdalen laundaries. I have to disagree with Ron though, because IDS opened that door himself. also calling the poor, drug addicts, not the brightest thing to say! Me thinks!

        • I think you have plucked that from the Koran,the bible, which is the same proper gander that has been shoved down decent peoples throats .
          Get thee behind me satin.

      • Religion and worship in themselves merely `man made` systems in which to control masses.
        But, Catholicism and the systematic abuse of the vulnerable – All in a days work – Just less covering up than usual

  10. TAX CREDITS ARE LIKE A DRUG IN THEMSELVES – THEY GET THE MUGS HOOKED ON WORKING FOR SHIT PAY – UNTIL THE GOVERNMENT (DEALER) (SLOWLY) WITHDRAWS THEIR SUPPLY, BUT IT IS TOO LATE THEN SINCE THEY ARE ALREADY HOOKED (TRAINED INTO WORKING FOR SHITE MONEY)

  11. A really good way of pissing IDS off would be to taunt him (through his various websites and email addresses) about the General Election next year and the fact that ‘when’ Labour win, his control over benefit claimant’s will be at an end – permenantly!

    No longer will he have any power to destroy people’s lives and will never be put in such an important position again – EVER!

    GOOD RIDDANCE.

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      If only Labour could win in his constituency as for some strange reason it is a very safe Tory seat (Tory Majority 30% over Labour) I live nearby in Brentwood and Ongar which is also one of that party’s safest (Tory Majority 33% over the Lib Dems) and whilst we look like a safe constituency for a Tory MP his doesn’t really. Chingford and Woodford Green is a bit of a dump compared to Brentwood..

      Michael Portillo was one of the most hated people within John Major’s government yet he was veritably sane compared to IDS. He lost his previously safe Tory seat in the 1997 Labour landslide and all non-Tory people enjoyed seeing him lose. This event was even referred to as the “were you up for Portillo?” moment! It’s a shame there is not likely to be a “were you up for IDS?”

    • @Obi s better idea is to point out the cruelty involved in dog racing which is a passion of IDS..

      He thinks more about dog tracks than poor folks ..

    • I doubt he would care if Labour got in, I honestly think they are all in it as one. I have never voted in my life (I am 39) but, will be voting green for an optimistic hope of anyone but Labour and Condemns.

  12. I can see something coming a mile off – are you ready?

    Lord Iain Duncan Smith.

    I bet that’s also in the bargain for IDS to keep quite regarding Cameron.

  13. I recently saw the film 12 Years A Slave and had the disturbing vision of IDS, his hand in someone else’s popcorn, chortling his way through it and muttering THAT’s how I’ll do the Work Programme.

  14. Landless Peasant

    IDS’s psychotic rant was induced by his Crack addiction.

    • something survived...

      I think the headline should read: IDS is on drugs
      (if he thinks that)

      Being a Catholic he’s anti-abortion and anti-contraception, also against married couples abstaining from or refusing sex, or being voluntarily sterilised. But also he wants poor people, many of whom are Catholic, to a)be married (but not have sex?) b)not have sex [conflicting with the rule on marrieds to fuck like rabbits (eachother, not third parties)]
      c) not have kids.
      Duhhhhhhh!
      Logic circuits: Fried. Epic Fail.

  15. Landless Peasant

    The Government are using the wrong drugs, ditch the Class A’s lads and stick to Ganga. You know it makes sense, for your sakes and ours.

    • Yep mellow him out and then lynch him when he would never expect it, the thing that grates my cheese is he is still claiming expenses for his skids!!!!!

      • Yes, he’s still claiming expenses out of the ‘same’ pot that we get our benefits from.

        • No MP should be allowed to claim any expenses – my god if thet can’t live and pay for everything they have to do out of £66,396 a year, then they are just money grabbing bastards, and all of this is coming out of ‘taxpayers’ money.

          Fine if they want to claim expenses, limit all MP’s salaies to £30,000 a year.

    • Time all Condem ministers were drug-tested. Wonder how many would test positive for Class A’s?

  16. ids watch out for karma you cunt

    he carry’ s on with his bullshit because he’s gone unchallenged so far, so he’s going to carry can’t even be arsed wasting my time typing about him anymore, he’s HEARTLESS POSHBOY WANKER WHO’S BEEN ON THE PUBLIC TEAT ALL HIS SAD PATHETIC ADULT LIFE ! BIGGEST SPONGING BASTARD GOING!!

  17. this is the 30th anniversary yr of the 1984 miners strike which left mining communities decimated, in deep poverty, and with all of the social problems caused by poverty…wages have dropped in real terms over these 3 decades, as inflation has soared, many people barely existing, 7.8m people are in work poverty….and his rhetoric is the same old same old tory crap, blame the poor…he points to the desperate poverty of muirhouse, i wonder how that happened?…a study has proved that if homeless people are given a lump sum of no strings cash, most will spend it on improving their lives, as they value themselves more. far from being a generous gesture, this method is far cheaper, much more productive, stops yrs of potential and real abject misery and/or of rapidly decaying health etc, “crime” to feed self and/or addictions, used to fend off the misery of being homeless and/or close to it, promotes healthier communities and saves paying the wages of all of the services that homeless people regularly come in contact with….all people need is a reliable income of vitals, when this is messed about with we go to pot….instead we are faced with this inane stupidity wrapped up as “for your own good” policy, which is drivel at best and madness at worst!

  18. ian duncan smith

    this is an insult to any working person on tax credits. how do they hope to win an election saying things like that.

    • ian duncan smith

      or sorry i forgot it was me who said it wasn’t it.

      • Poor in work and out of work people cant tighten their belts anymore, fact! All IDS is creating is civil unrest, people will and already do have no choice but to do something illegal to make ends meet but they are only the able bodied ones. IDS you are creating a monster of epic proportions who will surely turn on you! Btw, thanks for creating the Work Program which takes away my entitlement to apply for a self employment loan to start up my own business, very inspiring indeed. Go on IDS crush us into the ground but watch your back, your time is approaching, bullies are always brought down in time!

        • We should not be in the position of having to claim in work benefits its ludicrous, just pay a living wage instead of the better paid in-work people having to subsidise us, soon there will be many people hated for working for peanuts, youre even dividing the working class!

        • Steven2011@lavabit.com

          How utterly fucking stupid is this bunch of cretins to do that? Even the previous low in Tory mental illness ie Mrs Thatcher had quite a good employment scheme called the Enterprise Allowance so that people who had been out of paid work for a longtime could set-up an enterprise themselves and get employed in that way. Absolutely NOTHING this unelected shower of unthinking, callous and fucking THICK morons does anymore surprises me.

      • You’re right, it’s an absolute vote-loser. What have I got to do, place duct-tape across your mouth so you’ll stop talking to the Telegraph, the Mail, and that ridiculous fake think-tank you set up?

  19. don’t forget peaps the the un lady who came last year is to give her report to the UN in March about the bedroom tax and uk poverty, lets hope something will come of it, like IDS’ head on a pike on London bridge for all the poor people satisfaction!!! vlad the impaler we miss you!!!

  20. THE DEPARTMENT FOR WORKS AND PENSIONS

    Another man, who did not wish to be named, said his benefit was cut for a month in September.

    “I explained that I was caring for my nana,” he said. “I was up and down to the hospital with her. It totally slipped my mind. I phoned up and said I’m half an hour late for my appointment and they said, ‘OK, we’ll just put it as a miss’.

    “I got a letter two weeks later saying I was sanctioned – for 28 days.”

    Mr Elliot said staff were being forced to carry out “politically motivated” objectives.

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  22. I’ve run out of words to express my anger and hatred for IDS

    Can I bring to folks attention another potential dilemma for the DWP and claimants – namely, when people claimed Incapacity Benefit before April 1995 (it was called Invalidity Benefit) they were exempt from paying tax on it. Now,ESA is a taxable benefit ( who thought of taxing benefits I wonder?? one G> Brown me thinks) which means that once you transfer from IB to ESA you are liable for tax if you have extra income.

    This means that you will receive less money than others transferring to ESA because you may be taxed now. There should be some protection for people in this situation but I don’t know if there is. This will affect many disabled people who can look forward to a drop in income on transfering to ESA. Does anyone find themselves in this position? Do you know of anyone in this position? Does anyone know whether there is any income protection on transfering from IB to ESA so as not to lose income? It seems rather like the Bedroom Tax dilemma when the law wasn’t changed – this could be similar with et more retrospective law to follow – the DWP and IDS really are SHIT

  23. Meanwhile George Osborne gets a tax cut for snorting coke …

  24. Another BIG bank bailout coming ?

    http://iacknowledge.net/hsbc-bank-on-verge-of-collapse-second-major-banking-crash-imminent/

    “The news that should have us all worried is: the derivatives market contains $700trn of these debts yet to implode. Global GDP stands at $69.4trn a year.”

  25. How long till somebody that has nothing else to loose, just looses it, and kills a politician or few. More and more people are getting close to the edge. The ones that won’t take this crud will be getting to the point soon. Thats also why we have the police arming to fight the population of the country.

    It’s getting pretty close to it with idiots like IDS coming out with stupidity like this, almost like that is what they want to antagonise people more. It seems to be his jub, push the people till they break, and if they don’t break this time, push them more to see how far they can be killed off without any problem.

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      I have a feeling Cameron may end up like this former PM: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Perceval

    • Well said Paul, I totally agree esp about the police

      I have always believed law is nothing but politicians deliberate intent to control the masses to uphold their (politicians) rules.
      Any normal intelligent individual can understand you do not need a rule or law to not commit a certain crime but morals.
      In other areas of crime, standards of living need to improve to ever cease that certain area of crime – No amount of laws, rules and punishment will ever work until standards of living change. Poverty is the worst inducement of crime and the fuckers both know and love it.

      Most rules and laws do not cater for the victim anyhow, punishment does not deter etc, This is because the standards of living have never improved for the masses and of course the intent is that they never will.

      You are right civil unrest is long overdue – I just hope people turn on those who are the causes and not on eachother.

  26. Sarah Sarahssen

    As if addicts who are under to the point of neglecting their children aren’t under the eye of social sevices anyway. The way he’s talking you’d think it was just allowed to go on unchecked. If they were really doing what he says they’re doing, they’d only have the tax credit for a very short period of time as their kids would be taken away.

    • True, and wouldn’t the parents buy their drugs using their actual wages and either sell the money loaded on their benefits card on, or use that for shopping? I remember back when asylum seekers had vouchers. I’d go shopping in sainsburys 4 wat wanted, using their voucher, and Give them the cash so they could buy their halal meat ect…..

  27. And there they are claiming one million sickness claimants have been found fit for work.
    Do they take us for cunts now ?
    After all the fuss about Atos plus the 3 hour debate in parliament by members on all sides plus all the negative shit about Atos WCA. It’s like none of that happened and lordy hallelujah a million people have suddenly been cured by Atos ..

    We are not fucking stupid stop taking the piss…..

    • And over 10,000 dead due to benefit cuts ..as Geoff said the DWP want to boast ie lie about their ‘ successes ‘ but deny their failures …as some pointed out the DWP are clearly ” out of control “…

    • sadly a scary number of people are stupid. Or, I suspect, have simply accepted the excuse they’ve been given to wilfully blind themselves to reality. The mainstream “debate” about welfare in this country is now entirely myth-based, to the point where facts are no longer even welcome; those of us who actually know what’s going on have been shoved so far out to the margins that we are essentially disenfranchised.

  28. Can’t believe job centre staff’s union have admitted staff have been under enormous pressure to sanction to targets. ….What will happen now?

    • And about time too, don’t hear much about that from the BBC mind…

      • @slug the PCS union stuff on sanction targets was on bbc site…of course DWP denied it…along with the benefit
        related deaths fdespite the fact that CPAG warned them in consultation that it would happen ..along with other warnings about workfare being used for corruption …

        Thats the DWP for you …” Lala not listening ” it reminds me of a certain minister ..can’t think of his name now…something something smith ..

    • Sunday Politics had the bbc talking of being forced to give out sanctions, they could leave of course, but Alan Beith adamant that is the way to go, even though he admits a lot of mistakes are made and no-one is compensated. The staff that make the error should be sacked and pay those they have wrongly sanctioned out of their own pocket.

    • sorry pcs members forced to give out sanctions, but could refuse.

  29. How is this for timing ?
    The BBC tell us now that a number of claimants on Benefit Street have been charged with guess what ? Drug Offences

    Well that must be all those on tax credits then I guess ..the same ones who ate sitting on their arses being criminals because they are on benefits after all claimants are criminals and terrorists and drunks and skivers and fake disabled and gangsters

    And….

    • And live in mansions and get free BMW cars and worst of all they have FLAT SCREEN televisions !!!

      Oh the shame…

    • I noticed that the raids were carried out last June, well before B.S. went to air. I bet most if not all other reports/follow-up articles will miss that bit out…

      • @slug .but its the point that ALL claimants are drug offenders aren’t they …like we are awash in immigrants and feckless old people are bed blocking the NHS the point is is this.
        1 we can’t afford the welfare state
        2 we can’t afford the NHS
        3 we can’t afford the old

        That’s why we have these trade fairs for welfare to work companies to benefit from because the country is so skint that we have to throw miilions at pointless schemes like UC and Atos and fraudulent companies like A4e….
        It’s simple economics doncha know..

    • All seems far too convenient, & IDS won’t stop banging his gums from now on repeating ad nauseaum at anyone who’ll listen that those claiming tax credits are drink & drug addled wasters. Watch the comments in the Daily Heil from now on….

  30. Benefit tales website has a retired 1 year early due to stress jobcentre worker telling us how it really is aswell!

  31. “If and when uncertainty spreads to the dollar, the real crisis will arrive, likely followed by high inflation, exchange controls, pension confiscations, and resurrected illegality of owning gold and silver. Capitalist greed aided and abetted by economists and policymakers will have destroyed America.”

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/01/25/economists-policymakers-murdered-economy-paul-craig-roberts/

  32. Tax credits are the only thing keeping me and my son’s head above water and I don’t smoke, drink, gamble, do drugs or even go out. I live the life of a monk. All my money, all of it, goes on taking care of my kid, food, transport, school uniforms, etc. If they scrap tax credits then I honestly don’t know what we will do.

  33. Check out this link http://www.iainduncansmith.com/ . Minister for manslaughter. There’s a petition there calling for him to be sacked and put on trial for crimes against humanity. I live in hope.

  34. Benefits Street claimants arrested for drug offences therefore all claimants are drug addicts because Benefit Street depicts the ” real lives ” of claimants .so we are ALL drug addicts whilst being criminals in wheelchairs faking our sickness and running terrorist ventures as gangsters driving around in our free BMW cars living it up in our free mansions in ghettos ..
    Ok I wasn’t sure
    Maybe those flat screen televisions we all have are really explosive devices

    No wonder IDS has armed police wherever he goes …we are obviously a danger to soceity..

  35. Ids must have too much time on his hands because he is getting all of his shit from Jeremy vile or Bullshit street, but there again he is probably “the producer.”

  36. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2282349/Cruel-horseowner-benefits-neglected-animals-maintain-700-week-costs.html

    BENEFIT CLAIMANTS ARE ALSO ANIMAL KILLERS TOO…

    Its all that flat screen bombs they are making whilst being gangster criminals faking disability living the high life in mansions in ghettos …
    Bring back hanging them in work houses

  37. http://www.politicsforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=42723

    BENEFIT CLAIMANTS SAY THEY GET TOO MUCH MONEY.
    If obviously gets in the way of selling their flat screen bombs whilst driving around in the BMW wheelchairs that they got by faking their disability whilst living in mansions in ghettos being gangsters whilst being alcoholic drug addicts which drove them to kill animals ..

    Its obvious ennit ?

  38. The one encouraging thing I can take from that article in the Telegraph is the comments section – it is choc full of commenters tearing a strip off IDS, not just for this current policy but for everything he’s done over the last few years.

    Perhaps people aren’t quite so willing to swallow IDS’ lies and bullshit as they used to be.

    • @samwise i wish that was true..you still see knobheads on guardian CIF banging on about scroungers getting flat screen televisions ..

      • Guardian CIF is infested by right-wingnut swivel-eyed loons these days, I’ve just had abuse off one for commenting that Ed Balls proposed 50p tax rate for the well-off doesn’t go far enough & should be 70p.
        Maybe the idiot got lost on the way to the Daily Heil…

      • something survived...

        Have they even attempted to buy any other sort of television apparatus lately?

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      But what about the Daily Moron/Hate/Heil? It is only when the cretins who ‘read’ that ‘newspaper’ wake-up to reality then we may get somewhere. I have written a few comments over there whenever they launch into one their demented rants about the unemployed or benefit claiments. I get some people backing them but not enough.

  39. http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1900079

    Death threats against claimants. Following another ” benefit scrounger ” tv program ..” On benefits and proud ” made by C5.. Isn’t that owned by dirty des the faily sexpress..
    Why are all these programs being made ?

  40. “West Midlands Police is probing a string of abusive tweets and online messages aimed at residents.”.
    Oh and we read this AFTER reading that police are investigating criminal activity in benefit street. And belated out of date shit about drug offences …so priority is to make the residents look shit and crooked thus backing the muderous threats ..then just mention the serious consequences of those threats …I see some fucking overpaid footballer chimed in with those threats too..
    How fucking nice of him

  41. IDS is clearly mad, but I need a whipping boy for when things go tits up.

  42. The thing to remember about IDS is that he was a total failure as Tory leader; he never even fought a General Election. Many Tories despise him on a personal level. It would be fantastic if he lost the ( relatively safe) Chingford seat. No other constituency would want him. He would be finished. People in that area have a strong tendency to vote right of centre. Therefore a good showing by UKIP could let Labour in.
    HE MUST LOSE.

    • Steven2011@lavabit.com

      His constituency is one of the Tory Party’s safest seats. He has a majority of 30.1% so would need to have a ‘swing’ (half the percentage majority) of 15% against him to lose. My seat (Brentwood and Ongar) is nearby and we are only a little bit safer (percentage majority 33%)

      The thing that is interesting about his seat is the Labour Party and NOT the Liberal Democrats are in second-place. When Tory-held constituencies become as safe as his is (ie over 30% majorities) the Lib Dems are normally in this position in them like in Brentwood and Ongar.

      I don’t know about how well UKIP do in his seat. I suspect they don’t get much support because the seat in in London and they don’t do well in the capital. Michael Portillo was defeated on a pro-Labour swing of 17% in 1997 but then, of course, the Tories were really hated and had been in government for long that even safe seats like his fell to the massive Labour landslide.

  43. Fuck me when will he pop his clogs, I would like to say I cant believe it but sadly, I can.

  44. ireallymeanthis

    Notice how IDS now categorizes those who get tax credits as ”on benefits”.
    There are a lot of Tory voters who rely on tax credits,but who don’t think of themselves as ”on benefits”. It’ll be a shock for them to find themselves grouped alongside all these ”scroungers” that they hate.
    This could be a big mistake by the tories(as well as evil)

    find that they are now in the same camp
    ”scum”.

  45. maybe this si not such a bad thing there are a lot of folk who shrug there shoulders saying “im not on benefits i work 16 hrs in spar” well there time has come ive been expecting it for sometime,part time workers have started to look down on the sick and who they percieve as scroungers maybe now they will realise that ids hates them as much as us

  46. IDS is only fronting for the tories while Cameron and Osborne take a back seat and sound more plausible. Eventually when IDS is kicked out of the cabinet he would have already done the nasty work that they want him to do. We are among a group of 2.3 million umemployed with a few million more receiving benefits who can’t work against nearly 30 million in work who are just grateful they are not on the receiving end of bullying as we are. If we are forced to work for benefits from april as looks likely it will become part of becoming unemployed that you have a limited time on benefits before being forced to work for them. We are only 16months from an election but a lot can happen in 16 months to the unemployed as we are phased into work for benefit schemes so that the majority don’t get involved and whoever wins the next election it looks like they will endorse whatever they inherit.

  47. Not sure if this has already been noted, but just incase:-

    Changes to the ‘fitness to work’ test sneaking under the radar

    OURKINGDOM 17 January 2013Subjects:Equality Economics Democracy and government UK   Changes to the contentious test designed to judge whether seriously sick or disabled people in Britain are fit for employment are being proposed without debate, despite evidence to show they will have a “huge and damaging impact”.In less than a fortnight, the UK government is due to make a set of changes to the Work Capability Assessment (WCA). The WCA is the ‘fitness to work’ test which assesses whether sick and disabled people can get Employment and Support Allowance (ESA): a benefit designed to help and support very unwell or profoundly disabled people into work.Although these changes have been advertised as small ‘amendments’, a new briefing co-published by Ekklesia, the beliefs and values think-tank, and Sue Marsh, a disability campaigner and author of the blog Diary of a Benefits Scrounger, warns that the amendments will have a “huge and damaging” impact on the way people’s illnesses are reviewed. Below, we publish a version of Sue Marsh’s blog for Diary of a Benefits Scrounger, setting out the two main problems identified with the proposed legislation and their human cost. Problem One: False AssumptionsIn the fitness to work test, your needs are assessed by a ‘healthcare professional’ employed by the French private company ATOS. This assessor doesn’t just need to look at your current difficulties. For example, they can also imagine how using an aid (e.g. a wheelchair) might improve your ability to work and make a judgement based on that –without even asking your opinion! However, if the proposed legislation is allowed to pass, this “imaginary test” will be able to be used for many more aids (including guide dogs and false limbs!). This means that soon thousands more people could be judged as fit to work, without being consulted, on the basis of an “imaginary” aid they don’t own or may not be able to use.It gets worse. Even if returning to work may clearly put you at risk, these changes will mean you can still lose your disability benefit – as long as the assessor believes that trying a new therapy or treatment might reduce that risk. There’s no need for evidence that the treatment will help: you will lose support either way, making it much harder to manage if the treatment doesn’t work as hoped – let alone if it ends up making things worse.Imagine Bert, who suffers from severe schizophrenia, but is found fit to work and made to take behavioural therapy in the hope of improving his condition. He will lose his disability benefit, without the assessor having to look at several vital questions: how hard it would be for Bert to contact a psychiatrist? How long would an NHS appointment take to organize? Are there private options in his area – and could he afford them if so? What if the therapy doesn’t work, or takes a long time to adjust to?If the government’s rule changes go through, people like Bert who are desperate to work will find it nearly impossible to get an accurate assessment, affecting the quality of their support and actively preventing their efforts to get back into work.Problem Two: Separating physical and mental healthThe government is also trying to change the way people’s conditions are assessed by dividing health problems into two separate boxes: ‘physical’ and ‘mental’. When looking at what tasks people can do, only the ‘physical half’ of the test will apply to those with physical disabilities. The same goes for the effects of treatment: for e.g., if you’re takingmental health medication, only mental health side-effects will be looked at.This completely fails to understand the way that many disabilities and illnesses can lead to both physical and mental effects. This is also the case for many common treatments: such as those for schizophrenia, Parkinson’s disease and multiple sclerosis.Think of Emily, who suffers severe, chronic pain because of nerve damage to her leg. Emily is among the 49% of chronic pain sufferers who also suffer depression as a result of continuous pain. An assessor may see Emily as able to do some work as long as she takes strong painkillers for the rest of her life, meaning she could pass the ‘fitness’ test. Yet the painkillers may not deal with the depression caused by her condition. Painkillers have also often been shown to affect people’s wakefulness and decision-making. So taking the medication may affect Emily’s ability to do a job in a completely new way – yet because these new problems are cognitive, they would not need to be looked at by the assessor when making their decision. Pretending the effects of illnesses and disabilities can be separated in this way goes against all medical practice. Going even further, and using this method to ignore sick and disabled people’s needs, is at best hopeless policy, and at worst deliberate cruelty. To find out more about the proposed legislation, go to Diary of a Benefit Scrounger, or see the below:* The Briefing on Employment and Support Allowance (Amendment) Regulations 2012 can be read and downloaded in full, and as an executive summary, here: http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/ESAbriefing* Press Release: ‘Latest Work Capability Assessment proposals will worsen plight of sick and disabled people’ – http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/17811* WOW (War on Welfare) petition site: http://wowpetition.com/ The Government Direct e-petition can be found here: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/43154

  48. Just been watching “take me out”, some people say they are all gay men looking for a free holiday to Fernando’s, courtesty of the straight women contestants looking for love, but I wouldn’t dream of saying such a thing.

    • i no longer watch mainstream tv,its vaccous divisive and political,i miss it but cant go back i watch iplayer and youtube then i dint have to buy in to the celleb driven rubbish and sopas opium of the people guy

  49. Jasmine

    I think they can tolerate imperfection, it’s the perfect they can’t stand.

  50. If the tories don’t cut/scrap tax credits I’m sure Miliband will be along soon to say he will!!

  51. Saw this on another blog, no link, its a very nasty site, very far right!, still a few good people post there.

    “A rich man, a middle class man and a poor man beside a plate of 10 biscuits.

    The rich man takes 9 of the biscuits, and says to the middle class man “look, that poor guy is trying to take all of your biscuit”.

  52. universal jobsmatch is shite

    sick of reading about the bald Nazi bastard, FUCK ALL GETS DONE ABOUT IT ANYWAY HE JUST CARRY’S ON!!

  53. Obviously he believes that the majority of people will believe his ramblings.
    Unfortunately he’s correct.

  54. Obviously he believes that the majority of people will believe his ramblings.
    Unfortunately he’s correct.
    Keep repeating the lies and eventually people will believe its the truth.

    Its been done for centuries.

  55. DEAR ALL…ATM I AM ASTOUNDED BY ADMIN OF DISABLED SITE..I POSTED ABOUT THE 1,000,000 FOUND FIT FOR WORK AND MY CONCERN ABOUT DEPICTION OF DISABLED IN MEDIA…THE THREAD WAS GOING OK TILL ADMIN STEPPED IN AND POSTED THAT WAS BECOMING ‘ TOO POLITICAL ‘ AND IT MIGHT UPSET SOMEONE…SO 10,600 DEATHS IS NOT UPSETTING BUT MENTIONING MIGHT OFFEND SOMEONE AT DWP ?
    I WENT TO POST BACK BUT THREAD HAD BEEN DELETED…..
    WHAT FKIN COUNTRY…

    • Ps there is something up with that site as they removed ie censored my ref to J HUNT the health sec. And another poster had ref to IDS redacted ….
      And these are meant to represent disabled people ?.
      WTF…

  56. “Deletion of your Millions fit to work thread
    Dear Bobchewie, Unfortunately I have needed to delete your recent post as I commented that the thread was closed and you replied despite my kind request. Despite your pleas of disability & welfare reformed political discussion I had already
    deleted it because….Blah Blah mustnt upset the DWP or IDS or ministes or fucking who…”

    Know your place don’t rock the boat…stop complaining ..put up with it all just shut up.

    Thats the world ae live in.. Lucky old us..

  57. THE ONLY MEDAL THAT IDS DESERVES IS THE DANCING RED LASER POINT ON HIS SHIRT………….

    THE PEOPLES RECOGNITION OF HIS HELP TO THE DISABLED AND POOR.

    HOLLOW POINT FROM CLOSE RANGE, OR HEAD SHOT OVER DISTANCE, WIND 2 DEGREES SOUTH SOUTH EAST, 1800 METRES……………………………

  58. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect

    I have discovered what IDS suffers from
    Its called ” Dunning Kruger effect ‘

    See link for details ..

  59. Reblogged this on Beastrabban’s Weblog.

  60. something survived...

    Okay so we are all on drugs are we?

    Pro forma letter:

    “Dear Department of Wobbly-chins and Pisstakers,
    Your representative, ‘IDS v.1 .0′ (Faulty Model no. C-18/NSDAP),
    (Dept. Zyklon B),
    informed the nation recently that all poor, disabled and
    unemployed people on benefits are on drugs. Thankyou for this
    most useful and enlightening piece of information.
    According to any number of documentaries on the subject,
    every heroin addict must steal several car radios etc. per day,
    in order to pay for heroin costing hundreds of pounds a week.

    As I am a benefits recipient, disabled/sick and unemployed, and in
    poverty, I am writing to inform you that I am not a criminal and do not take
    drugs. As a gesture of goodwill, could you now promptly remedy this severe income disparity, by reimbursing every benefits recipient in the country with an indefinite weekly payment of at least three figures, equivalent to the amounts earned by some of Britain’s most prolific offenders?

    Please also recall your faulty model forthwith, for immediate
    termination.”

  61. Got a shady phone number to watch out for Gang;
    01616609092
    If you get a text message from a mobile about a work start asking you to call this number it is a cost trap. £1.25 of your money just to connect. If you get a dead call its a cost trap. SLM Marketing are one of the shady shit heaps responsible. They also use this number for telesales of vodafone monthly plans to payg customers as voda have given them lists,it seems.Neither answer this number or ring it, block it on your handset if you get called.

  62. The CSJ has published more than 350 policy solutions to reverse this
    breakdown – breakdown which costs society more than £100 billion a year –
    and move people out of poverty. ((
    At the heart of these solutions is recognition
    that the nature of the life you lead and the choices you make have a significant
    bearing on whether you live in poverty))
    . Policy-makers regularly fail to
    understand this, instead viewing poverty through a financial lens only.
    This is in the opening paragraph of
    Dynamic
    Benefits
    Towards welfare that works by the Centre for Social Justice

  63. Come now, Esther McVey is making a serious play for IDS’ job. Did you see her little bit of negative briefing in his direction a few weeks back? The details escape me, but it suggested (in a plausibly deniable way) that she thought he’d gone quite barmy and would be more than happy to restore some sanity to the DWP if given the chance.

    He’s gone next reshuffle, and she’s in charge.

    (As for what he has on Cameron – despite being the most abject failure as leader that the Tories have had this century, possibly ever, he’s still apparently held in some regard by the right wing of the party. If he were sent back to the bench, he could cause no end of trouble for them – and despite people thinking Cameron a strong leader, he’s actually a tremulously weak one, susceptible to all kinds of bullying and pressure from all sides… because the only thing that matters to him is maintaining his image.

  64. ……..I still think Cameron was tinkling with Rebekkah Brookes, Blair was messing around with Murdoch’s chinese missus and lots more MP;s are mixed up with kiddy fiddling……………………….

    The truth has a strange way of surfacing, like Huhne having affairs with blokes……..

    SCANDAL, SCANDAL……………..

  65. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    That is it. I think even that moron Cameron has a low opinion of IDS’s abilities as a minister and would like to sack him. What you say is correct. IDS was one of the ringleaders on the backbenches during the Maastrict rebellion in the early 1990’s which made John Major’s time as PM hellish (even though IDS had only been an MP for a year). Undoubtedly, he would seek to cause as much trouble for Cameron as possible if he was sacked by him and sent back to the backbenches. Even George Gideon Oliver Osbourne thinks IDS is “too thick” to be a member of the Cabinet and coming from the most mathematically and economically-challenged Chancellor of the Exchequer this country has had the misfortune to have in many decades that is really saying something!

  66. Cameron tried to ‘reshuffle’ IDS last time around, and IDS refused (presumably because there’s no other cabinet position in which he could relish being such a complete and utter bastard) so he’s obviously got something on Cameron. I am not in receipt of any ‘benefits’ but I hate IDS with a fucking passion, he is one complete and utterly nasty fucker!!

  67. @Geoff from what Ive read mate there is now a murder enquiry opening up in connection with historic child sex abuse cases that include VIP ie MPs…

  68. Well said Steven, but is it beyond the wit of Cameron to ‘allow’ IDS to remain in his current position, but tell him to tone down the nasty vindictive cunt bit?!

  69. Eric Pickles the Brentwood MP – so Brentwood likes the tories? Ukip too!

  70. I think that you and just passing are right about this. Given that the issue of Britain’s membership of the EU is about to raise its head again, the last thing Cameron wants is Duncan Smith plotting against him from the backbenches.

  71. Jimmy Savile (Deceased)

    Are they going to be brought to book when they are still alive or are we going to wait until they are dead and buried like we usually do?

  72. How much lower will this raving, arrogant narcissist stoop? Spending tax credit or benefit on drugs?? Really??? What parent on benefits or tax credits has time or energy to get out of their tree? If parents are doing this then social services should be doing their job properly!!!!, oh hang on a minute, has there been cuts to this? Yes I think there has been. Abused children have been left vulnerable by this government. Go on IDS take more food from the children’s mouths of poor families. You make me sick with your constant degrading remarks. If someone has a drug problem benefits is not going to fund it really is it. Working families are already having to go to food banks, cut their tax credits and they will not be able to pay the ridiculous rising bills. IDS is a cocaine addict anyway so his expenses must be cut also, surely?

  73. @sir jammy sandwich ..knowing how things
    go its likely there will be a cover up like before…

  74. something survived...

    IDS is a new category as they already dug him up from a graveyard. Better get sharpening those stakes.

  75. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    He is indeed. I am one of the people who is euphemisticaly classed as “economically inactive” ie I SHOULD be signing-on and receiving benefits and part of a HUMANE social security system that SHOULD help me find employment but I don’t sign-on because I don’t wish to be a slave of a company which receives my labour free of charge and I don’t want to become ill and stressed-out due to the hassle the unemployed get nowdays. If only there was a way we could through to the evil morons in government (and too many in the Labour Party too as they started this crap off) that the ONLY solution to unemployment IS AN ECONOMY WHICH CREATES ENOUGH REAL PAID VACANCIES TO GO AROUND.

  76. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    The Tories constantly bleat about how ‘tough’ they are controlling immigration (I have yet to see any firm evidence of this rather bold assertion) so why is he not the Home Secretary and deporting the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of illegal migrants this country has? Well, the answer must be quite simple. The ‘nasty party’ clearly HATES native poor or vulnerable Britons like the unemployed and the disabled but doesn’t have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants or foreigners in general. TORY HATE is reserved for poor Britons only.

  77. That was really pathetic excuse for a cabinet reshuffle, IDS clinging onto his cabinet position so he doesn’t lose his vanity project. IDS is a very evil insidious excuse for a man, this also goes for a good majority of the Tories… right bunch of miserable out of touch overly rich career politicians. If you hate him so much then you could always go and tell him to his face at his Chingford constituency by appointment only of course. What sickens me there are still plenty in the community who still shake his hand… talk about the fickle state of human nature under the current climate.

  78. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    He should definitely tell him that as everyone time Duncan-Smith opens his bigoted gob he reminds the more thinking members of the populace why the Tories lost in 1997 by their second worst electoral showing in a general election (in terms of seats) in the 20th Century. The only worst showing was 1906 when the Tories went down to an even bigger defeat to the Liberal Party.

    Perhaps, Cameron really is as politically non-astute a politican as he appears to be as the original purpose of his being elected the Tory leader was to show the public the Tory Party had ‘changed’ and was no longer the ‘nasty party’ of British politics. Yet here we are a few years later and they are nastier than they have EVER BEEN! Whatever happened to one-nation Conservatism?

  79. Until there is a war!

  80. @steven. Yes and the worst thing is that they don’t speak English either ..and even worse they come from another country too..how dare they be foreigners ..
    Send them back and bomb their country to stop them being foreign

  81. Steven – This planet belongs to no one individually, it is no right to live in any particular area and claim it as your own.

    The Governments and Elites are controling money, law, rules, land etc and it is of no other persons fault than the elites that we are being screwed.

    Please look at history to see we have taken over and abused all other nations, hence why we are one of the richest and most powerful ones today.

  82. something survived...

    the problem is NOT immigrants/foreigners, it’s far-right white gits running the country that is the problem

  83. so you don’t have to live out of bins then Steven?

  84. The above was in reply to Steven’s Tory hate is reserved for poor Britain’s only.

  85. Why are comments not going under those you are replying to when using the reply button?

  86. @jasmine calm down dear. If you stopped wasting money on getting tattoos done you
    Wouldn’t need foodbanks ..
    So sayeth a Tory MP…

  87. @steven it got privatised when the nations assets got sold off…

  88. @guy its a communist plot by the SWP like the KGB run NHS…only the free market can save us….

  89. We will all be up to our necks in purple tomatoes before long…

    But as long as they will be British purple tomatoes that will be ok…

  90. @guy fawkes we are all living in bins sorry sin…maybe sin bins..

  91. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    No. I live at home with my parents. Luckily, claiming benefit is not absolutely essential like it is with people like you. What actually goes on nowdays in job centres? Are you sent on workfare as often as I think? The last time i signed-on, the atmostphere in the job centre was distinctly unpleasant. I expect that has worsened still further? I am surprised there isn’t violence in them nowdays!

  92. One fell on Gorbachev’s head Bob……………

  93. WHEELY?

  94. I really love all this blogging but sadly comments dont get to the people they need to as theyre not in our club

  95. @OBI naah Fester McVile is tin Lizzy the fucking robot..

  96. Sexual/misogynist comments about Esther McVey or anyone else will be removed. Let’s be better than them eh.

  97. Does anyone know how true it is that A4e are paid a retention fee by the DWP to keep clients on their books for a sustained period? That would explain their lack of commitment in finding me work! All the correspondence I receive from them emphasises that if I do not follow their work activity rules I will get sanctioned, truth is the activities they drag me in for are always unavailable so in fact they are breeching their own service provision rules, can I sue them for non-conformance?

  98. i come on here specially to read your views moi,always very observational and straight to the point,i think the very people who are shaking their hands are the people who think they are “alright im ok jack” types but the latest ramblings of this madman may make them realise that unless they are rich royalty blue rinse upper class etonion types,they are not “alright” could shake their plans to “divide and conquer”

  99. THE STABBING OF A WHEELCHAIR BOUND MAN AND THE THEFT OF HIS POSSESSIONS DRAW A SIMILAR, SINISTER PARALLEL TO WHAT THE DWP ARE DOING TO OUR OWN PEOPLE………

    HE HAD HIS PHONE AND VALUABLES STOLEN. OUR DISABLED HAVE HAD THEIR LIVELIHOODS STOLEN……..

    WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING A HIRED THUG, ATOS HEALTHCARE, TO STEAL BENEFITS FROM A DISABLED AND ACTUALLY STABBING THEM IN THE FACE?

    THE OUTCOME IS THE SAME!

    OUR GOVERNMENT POLICY OF DIVIDE AND RULE ACROSS THE CLASSES, HAS MADE THESE INCIDENTS ACCEPTABLE.

    BY LYING, CHEATING AND STEALING FROM OUR MOST VULNERABLE, THE POOR AND DISABLED, IT SENT A SIGNAL TO THE MASSES THAT THIS WAS SOCIALLY ACCEPTABLE AND COULD BE MIMICKED ALONG THE CHAIN…………

    DISABLED ARE NOW SPAT AT, ASSAULTED, TIPPED FROM THEIR MOBILITY VEHICLES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
    THE GOVERNMENT MINISTERS SUCH AS DUNCAN SMITH AND McVEY ARE THE TRUE ARCHITECTS OF EVIL.

    WHAT THIS COUNTRY IS WITNESSING IS NO DIFFERENT TO WHAT WENT ON IN NAZI GERMANY, THE ASSAULTS AND HATRED WERE DIRECTED AT THE JEWS IN THE SAME AS WHAT IS HAPPENING ON OUR SHORES.

    LIKE IT OR LUMP IT, THE HATRED IS RUNNING OUT OF CONTROL………….

    IT’S EASY TO INCITE TENSIONS, JUST STAND IN A FOOTBALL MATCH AND SHOUT LET’S KILL THE BASTARDS IN THE BLUE SHIRTS, SOME IDIOT WILL FOLLOW!

    OUR CONDEMN GOVERNMENT ARE FANNING THE FLAMES OF HATRED BY ALLOWING SUCH MEANINGLESS CRAP AS BENEFITS STREET ON OUR SCREENS.

    THEY NEVER OBLIGE THE POOR BY SCREENING MEMBERS OF OUR ROYAL FAMILY BLASTING THOUSANDS IN ONE NIGHT AT AN EXCLUSIVE NIGHTCLUB OR BANKERS AND HEDGE FUND MANAGERS ORDERING PRICELESS BOTTLES OF PLONK.

    YOU, MY FRIENDS, ARE PAWNS IN A LARGE GAME THAT IS TAKING DEMOCRACY FROM THE PEOPLE AND HANDING IT TO THE CORPORATE GIANTS.
    IT HAS NOT JUST HAPPENED, IN FACT IT IS NEARLY ACHIEVED….

    NEVER THINK YOU ARE PART OF A PARLIAMENTARY VOTE, THE CITY FAT CATS HAVE ALREADY PAVED THE WAY FOR ANYTHING THEY WISH. LOBBYING AND BACK HANDERS ARE THE DRIVING FORCE BEHIND ALL GOVERNMENTS.

    THE HIDDEN MORTALITY RATES ARE THE PRICE WORTH PAYING TO ACHIEVE THESE FETID GOALS……………

    ONE DAY, WHEN IT’S TOO LATE, YOU WILL START TO REALISE WHY WE ARE DEMONISED IN SUCH A WAY.

    HISTORY HAS A WAY OF REPEATING ITSELF, THIS IS THE START OF THE “NEW HOLOCAUST”

  100. My point being, foreign to the UK or not…. it is the Governments and Elites we should blame no one else

  101. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    Yes, he is my MP. You are correct. Brentwood and Ongar has a 16,921 and percentage majority (the REALLY important figure as if you halve it you will get the percentage ‘swing’ needed for the second-placed party to defeat the sitting MP) of 33% over the Lib Dems. My constituency is one of the Tory Party’s very safest seats. Infact, according to this website: http://www.politicalresources.net/area/uk/ge10/results.htm we are about the 30TH SAFEST!.

    Dumbo-Smith’s seat is a little way behind. UKIP normally come second around here in local elections nowdays!

  102. Johnny don’t go all politically correct on us – or is your blogg at stake?

  103. That is because IDS is not Etonian and he is showing his power by refusing to be reshuffled, as if they would want to reshuffle him.

  104. the above comment was in reply to totally given up, whose reply button I pressed as I did JV’s and ended up here. C’est la vie.

  105. Dumbo-smith is not a natural upper class like you Steven is he, I think you’re on the wrong site.

  106. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    How am I on the wrong site? Just because I live in Brentwood and Ongar doesn’t mean I am a Tory voter or wealthy!

  107. JV let’s be better than them eh? We are better than them we are not starving people and making them homeless.

  108. Donkey
    when did they bring that legislation in that they are hiding from everybody, i.e. that if you have a disability and they sanction you, you can reclaim.
    That was not the case for me they would not let me reclaim, so I think this has been slotted it in for Guardian readers to think there is a way around the sanctions system and it is not as austere as it REALLY is.

  109. Very true Guy, we could never be worse than the Condems…

  110. You were the one that said you do not have to claim benefit, you live off your parents instead, no wonder they call us scroungers.

  111. the above reply was to bentwood Steve and should be above but someone will not allow me to post under comments made by Tories.

  112. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    I am not a scrounger. I would want to go back to the job centre but only if they genuinely wanted to help me find a job but I suppose that will never happen now as the Tories and the press have whipped-up so much hatred towards the unemployed and anyone on benefits that the Labour Party can’t be bothered to defend benefit claimants from Tory and press hatred and REALLY REFORM the benefits system so that it is humane and it DOES help people find work.

  113. uy fawkes | January 26, 2014 at 2:10 pm | Reply

    Just been watching “take me out”, some people say they are all gay men looking for a free holiday to Fernando’s, courtesty of the straight women contestants looking for love, but I wouldn’t dream of saying such a thing.

  114. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    I am NOT a Tory. I did ONCE vote for them when John Major was PM but now I can’t stand the sight of them. Cameron, Osbourne and IDS have proved beyond any doubt what lefties said about them was true ie they ARE the ‘nasty party’. I would go further and call them intentionally EVIL.

  115. Geoff

    Narcissists believe in ‘perfection’. They have to have the perfect image. They simply can’t bear not too. Grandiosity is always at the top of the list. No defects at all. Think of Hitler and how he dreamed of his perfect race. They can not stand imperfections, or weakness. They will never allow it, or understand it. They have something very important missing inside, and they know it.

    These people are sadistic, and will have a great intuition on identifying the weak and poor, they will haunt and taunt them, and take pleasure in their suffering. This is where they get their thrill, and it is very addictive to them.

    They rule with the velvet glove, and surround themselves with golden circles of other narcissists, and narcissist worshippers. The worshippers [the narcissistic supplies] hoping to get into the golden circle ,and have a bit of that rich pie, they offer as bait.

    Remember how they laughed in parliament last month on the food bank stories, and people fighting for the reduced fruit n veg in supermarkets, They laughed at this? These are the men in charge now.

  116. jasmine

    I think they can tolerate imperfection, it is the perfect they can’t stand it makes them feel inferior.

  117. The above was to Guy’s reply to JV, is the site under threat btw?

  118. g fawkes
    if one’s esa is sanctioned, i suspect if one reclaims the sanction will remain, but one will get a fresh medical, if that’s a good thing? i am not sure of the situation if one’s med condition worsens however….but i think that the circumstances that they are describing are as follows….
    one can reclaim if 6mths have elapsed since the original wca decision, and/or if the med condition gets worse…also one has to let the dwp know that one would like payments of assessment rate esa to be continuous pending appeal, especially now with the advent of mandatory reconsiderations, where no money is paid until this is completed..so it’s fail wca wait for 1st consideration decision,then ask for MR (get no money during that untime capped period), then self lodge appeal to FtT and at the same time tell dwp that you want your assessment rate esa payments to continue…then wait some more months, for appeal… http://disabilitynewsservice.com/2013/09/dwp-dismisses-talk-of-fitness-for-work-catch-22/

  119. Did you post that in the guardian so that it clarified the situation for guardian readers, that benefits to the sick ARE sanctioned leaving the claimant with zilch.

  120. ps g fawkes
    plus keep sending in “not fit for work” gp’s med certs…

  121. GEOFFREY REYNOLDS

    TODAY HERALDS THE FIRST DAY OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO KILL SOMEBODY WITHOUT THE AUTHORITIES BOTHERING TO FOLLOW IT UP…………………..

    OVER 14,000 people have died under the terms of the WELFARE REFORM ACT, YET NOBODY IS BLINKING AN EYEBROW!!!!!

    STATE KILLING IS NOW THE NORM, IT IS NEVER INVESTIGATED BECAUSE THIS TREND IS NOW ACCEPTABLE………………………..

    WHY NOT FOLLOW SUITE AND KILL SOMEBODY TODAY?

    THE POWERS THAT BE HAVE BEEN BRIEFED TO, LOOK THE OTHER WAY………………….

    BUMP SOMEBODY OFF, NOW,

    IT’S THE OPPORTUNITY OF A LIFETIME……………

    MURDER WITHOUT RECOURSE………………………….

  122. guy fawkes
    true, and the more inferior, they feel, the more aggressive they get. For example, getting machine guns on display, when campaigners fight for their rights and freedom. They do not like the truth and spot light on their lies.

    The only way we could become accepted by the Tories and their society, would be to ‘mirror’ them. Become like them. As IDS said he wants this nation to be great again? Unfortunately this is impossible for some. For example sick people suffering cancer. We all know it can be impossible for us all to meet IDS’s demands. Why would we want to mirror their tainted view of what is important in life? Besides look at how many of us were not born with inheritance and property like them. We have such a fight just for food and shelter, but at least many of us know what is important in life, like caring for others for starters.

  123. Very true Jasmine, you have the right attitude and outlook on life.

  124. Steven2011@lavabit.com

    The thing is why did he put IDS in that post in the FIRST PLACE? Even Camoron surely has more sense than to think IDS would be a capable minister in what is one of the most complicated areas of government? He must have known IDS would be a TOTAL DISASTER. He has now made a rod for his own back!

  125. It’s a deliberately complex system, which IDS is trying to simplify with UC. Whether the system is complex or simplified it is all designed to rob the claimant.
    If Cameron or any of his cabinet really had brains or generosity they would be looking to the rich to reduce government spending, not the poor.

  126. Jasmine

    One thing is for sure you would not find IDS or any of the tory government answering the call of “take me out”, they would think it was a threat.
    As If?

  127. guy fawkes
    yes. IDS is so paranoid now. I wonder why that is? Is he finely aware that he is not as popular as he thinks and that he will not go down in history as a saviour to the poor, he will go down in history as a ……….!!!!!

    He does answer the call of ‘”take me out for that free lunch” however. As Johnny void as pointed out so many times on here.

  128. A FEW DAYS LATER, AFTER NICOLAE CEAUSESCU WAS HACKED TO DEATH INSIDE HIS OWN PALACE IN ROMANIA, MY PARTNER AND I WERE HAVING A COFFEE IN THE SQUARE OUTSIDE.

    NOBODY BLINKED AN EYELID, SAYING “THE BASTARD DESERVED EVERYTHING HE GOT”………………………………..

  129. SURELY NOT THE SAME, STEPHEN DUCKWORTH WHO HAD AN ACCIDENT WHICH LEFT HIM PARALYSED FROM THE NECK UPWARDS AND HATES HIS DISABILITY SO MUCH, THAT HE WANTS TO INFLICT PAIN ON OTHERS……………………………………………………

    THESE ARE HIS COMMENTS ON PIP EXAMINATIONS, YOU KNOW THE ONES THAT STEAL THE DISABILITY LIVING ALLOWANCE FROM RIGHTFUL HOLDERS.

    On the question of targets, he says he has no insight into how the government has calculated the likely drop in the number of people receiving the benefit.

    “I can understand why the publishing of that information would make people anxious. My understanding is that individuals will be assessed on an individual basis against the published descriptors.”

    He stresses that Capita has no DWP mandated target to reduce the number of people found eligible. “There are targets in terms of our quality of service, the timely nature in which we deliver, producing reports that are of a high quality. We are not targeted at all, in any way, in terms of reducing numbers.”

    THE NEWEST OF THE DWP’S DIRTY TRICKS THAT WILL KILL A FEW MORE THOUSAND DISABLED THAT WILL BE SWEPT UNDER THE CARPET…………………

    STRANGE HOW THEY ALL REPEAT LORD FRAUDS MANTRA ABOUT THERE BEING NO TARGETS……………..

    YET ESTHER MCVEY INFORMED PARLIAMENT THAT 600,000 WOULD LOSE OUT ON THE NEW PIP TEST.

    HOW CAN YOU ASSUME SIX HUNDRED THOUSAND WOULD LOSE OUT IF THERE ARE NO TARGETS?????

    ,,,,,,,,,,INCIDENTALLY, ATOS HAD NO TARGETS BUT THE CEMETERY IS FULL OF THEM!

    THE DWP AND HM COURTS AND TRIBUNAL SERVICE, A MARRIAGE MADE IN HEAVEN………

    A STATE SPONSORED KILLING MACHINE…………………..

    Leave a Reply

  130. Well, I know I’m lucky, I have a job (2 actually ) as a working single Mum, still the total of my working n child tax credits r higher then my wages! Anyway today is payday, after rent n council tax n topping gas leccy water tv ect, hardly anything left. No drugs 4 me this month then!! (Lol I don’t do them but ids says I do…….!

  131. something survived...

    He might like it if one morning without notice his carers don’t turn up to take him to the toilet, wash or feed him etc. Because they were let’s say agency staff, doing a few minutes at each house. They were not doing enough hours to get tax credits, and their childcare fees and rent were going through the roof. They don’t have job security or a union and are on zero hour contracts. Then the work dries up, or more likely, annoyed by the government hassling the care workers on universal credit to ‘work more hours or lose everything’, the agency responds by sacking the care workers. While the clients starve as they sit around in their own piss and shit; the workers, some of whom have back problems from untrained lifting, go to apply for benefits. Atos/Capita say they are fit for work. Another agency refuses to hire them, as Atos/Capita says they are NOT fit for work. They end up on JSA and are sent to workfare picking litter. Meanwhile the DWP gets wind of the clients, as nobody had noticed (it was sourced out to the private sector so they all got abandoned). Instead of offering help, it sends nasty letters threatening fines, jail and workfare, for being unemployed scroungers; along with bills for ‘care’ work never delivered.

    Still, if he’s a masochist, it’d be right up his street.

  132. EVEN MORE SINISTER IS THAT I SENT 4 REPORTS TO THE DWP FROM DOCTORS THAT STATED MY CONDITION WOULD NOT IMPROVE!

    THESE REPORTS ARE FROM DWP DOCTORS……………………..

    I ALSO SENT A MEDICAL REPORT THAT WAS WRITTEN BY A HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONAL USED BY THE DWP. IN 2007.

    THE HCP QUOTED;
    “I ADVISE THAT THERE IS UNLIKELY TO BE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN THE PRESENT MEDICAL CONDITION OR THE FUNCTIONAL EFFECTS OF THE CONDITION IN THE LONGER TERM”

    “THE CLIENTS LEVEL OF DISABILITY IS UNLIKELY TO VARY SIGNIFICANTLY IN THE NEAR FUTURE”
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………

    MY ATOS REPORT WRITTEN BY EMMA BRODRICK IN 2012 STATES I WOULD BE CAPABLE OF WORK IN 3 MONTHS TIME……………..
    …………………………………………………………………………………………………..
    SINCE JULY 2013 I HAVE BEEN RECEIVING £32.32P PER WEEK TO LIVE ON.
    I HAVE A SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD SON AND A PARTNER WHO WORKS A COUPLE OF AFTERNOONS PER WEEK.

  133. …………….if everyone said, “fuck it”, we are not paying for the tv licence, the BBC WOULD BE SHAFTED AND THE GOVERNMENTS GOBSHITES WOULD BE SILENCED, ONCE AND FOR ALL……….

    THEY CAN’T PROSECUTE EVERYBODY.

    THE BBC IS FUNDED BY THE LICENCE PAYER, THE LEAST WE EXPECT IS THE TRUTH, NOT THE OPINIONS OF NANNY STATE PUPPETS WHO REWRITE THE NEWS TO ACHIEVE POLITICAL ENDS………………….

    PLEASE DON’T FORGET;

    THEY HAVE JUST WASTED £100 MILLION OF YOUR HARD EARNED FEES ON A DIGITAL PROJECT THAT CRASHED.

    COUPLE THAT WITH A FORTUNE IN GOLDEN HANDSHAKES FOR AN INEPT, HAND IN GLOVE HEIRARCHY RULED OVER BY THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF HONG KONG, PISSPOT PATTEN,THE TRUE BLUE TOILET RAG, AND YOU HAVE A GOOD REASON TO REFUSE TO PAY…………..

    SACK THEM, GIVE THEM THE BOOT, THEY ARE NOT LIVING UP TO YOUR EXPECTATIONS………………

  134. IF THE TERM, “HIGH TREASON”, IS A CRIMINAL DISLOYALTY TO ONES GOVERNMENT, WHAT IS THE TERM FOR A GOVERNMENTS DISLOYALTY TO IT’S PEOPLE?.

    High treason is criminal disloyalty to one’s government. Participating in a war against one’s native country, attempting to overthrow its government, spying on its military, its diplomats, or its secret services for a hostile and foreign power, or attempting to kill its head of state are perhaps the best known examples of high treason.

    WHAT WOULD BE THE THE TERM FOR OUR MONARCH, QUEEN ELIZABETH II PLOTTING AGAINST THE PEOPLE, AS SHE SO OFTEN DOES NOW?.

    OUR RULING CLASSES ARE SO CORRUPT, IT IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE WHERE THE DECEIT BEGINS AND ENDS……………………

    HER MAJ RECEIVES THIRTY ONE MILLION POUNDS IN STATE BENEFITS, SHE, IN TURN PLEADS POVERTY AND CLAIMS TO HAVE SPENT A FEW MILL OF HER ILL GOTTEN GAINS………………

    IN RETURN FOR HER MEAGRE INCOME, SHE SIGNS ANYTHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT PUSH IN FRONT OF HER FACE…………..

    SHE ENDORSES THE WELFARE REFORM ACTS OF 2012, THAT SEE HER “LOYAL SUBJECTS” SHAFTED IN THE MOST APPALLING FASHION….

    ……………..THE QUEEN IS THE BIGGEST SHITHOUSE THAT THIS COMMONWEALTH SUPPORTS……..

    IT’S NO GOOD HAVING A FIGUREHEAD THAT EVERYBODY DOTHS THEIR CAPS TO, CURTSEYS AND SINGS NATIONAL ANTHEMS TO, AT THE SAME TIME SHE IS STABBING YOU ALL IN THE BACK, GLOATING FROM HER ERMINE AND PEARL EMPIRE THAT YOU HAVE PAID FOR…..

    NEVER MIND A REFERENDUM ON BEING PART OF EUROPE, WE SHOULD HAVE ONE ON OUR MONARCH AND THE INBRED SCROUNGERS THAT MAKE UP HER FAMILY………….

    NO CUPPA SOUP AND CREAM CRACKERS FOR THESE BASTARDS. THEY RESEMBLE FIGURES IN OUR OWN GOVERNMENT WHO CONSIDER THEY HAVE A GOD GIVEN RIGHT TO ENJOY A LIFE FAR ABOVE OUR WILDEST DREAMS, WHILE WE THE PEASANTS ARE TOSSED CRUMBS FROM THE TABLE…………………………

    THE EMPIRE ONLY EXISTS BECAUSE THE MONARCHY GAVE ORDERS TO RAPE AND PILLAGE IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.
    WE ARE BUILT ON THE PROCEEDS OF CRIME THAT HAVE BEEN CAREFULLY ERASED FROM OUR HISTORY BOOKS.

    HISTORY IS THE BIGGEST LOAD OF CODSWALLOP EVER. ITS LIKE THE BBC AND SKY NEWS, A DISTORTION OF THE TRUE FACTS….

    OUR STATE IS A HUGE MACHINE THAT KEEPS YOU, MR NOBODY, IN CHECK…………….

    OUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS BUT AN EXTENSION OF THE STATE WHIP, A TOOL TO KEEP THE SERFS AT A DISTANCE.

    THE POLICE ARE THE RIGHT HAND BODYGUARDS OF THE POWERHOUSE OF OUR RULING ELITE, BOUNCERS OF THE STATE THAT HAVE MORE ALLEGIANCE TO THEIR CORRUPT PAYMASTERS THAN THE PEOPLE THEY PURPORT TO PROTECT………..

    THE GOVERNMENT ARE SUPPOSED TO MIMIC THE VIEWS OF THEIR ELECTORATE BUT ARE CONTROLLED BY GREED THROUGH LOBBYING OF THE MIGHTY POWERHOUSES OF INDUSTRY AND BANKING……………………

    THE ROT HAS SET IN, AND EVERYONE IS AWARE……………….

    IF THEY WON’T LISTEN, THEN WE MUST FIND A SOLUTION AND FAST, BEFORE THE ROT TAKES AWAY THE FRUITS OF OUR NATION FOREVER………………………..

  135. Claimants seldom feel suicidal before the assessment, the feeling of worthlessness comes afterwards when you are left in the gutter suffering depression and anxiety and looking to pay your next bill or eat…………

    It’s a psychological torture that reduces people to their lowest ebb.

    The reason the bodycount is rising is the DWP, in a quest to introduce the ESA BENEFIT, decided not to do a proper cumulative assessment knowing there would be casualties.

    As a result, the thousands of people who have succumbed to death, have become the biggest embarrassment ever to the DWP.

    Rather than face their demons, they pretend nothing is happening, refuse to do a mortality count and act in total denial of their actions.

    They think they can escape the error of their ways, but all the wanton indirect murders fall firmly at the departments feet……….

    Anyone can pretend to be oblivious but they have been told, time and time again.

    At present they have the court services and police in their back pockets……..

    It’s a cosy relationship till the shit hits the fan and the claims emerge.

    Heads will roll, liability will be contested and the full extent of the evil perpetrated against the most weakest will be broadcast all over the world, rather like it is being now!

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